Once Rhanaerya secured the north you know she was going to win. No queen or king has ever lost a war with the north as their Allie’s. Though Rhanaerya grief stricken and angry is what cost her life in the end. She stopped being strategic and just starting relying on brute force
Cregan Stark was carrying the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' on his back unlike Ned Starks who carried it on his waist. Jon snow also carried his Valyrian steel sword 'longclaw' on his back in the books.
Cregan Stark and Jon snow both were too short for their Valyrian steel swords 'Ice' and 'Longclaw' respectively. So they tied it to their back unlike Ned Stark who tied the the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' to his waist because he was a man of big stature. People don't realise that both Ice and Longclaw are very big swords compared to others. Although Ice is bigger.
@@5inisterftw I think the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' is bigger than the sword 'Dawn. Also Dawn is not a Valyrian steel sword. In "A Song of Ice and Fire," Dawn is a unique and ancient sword belonging to House Dayne. It is forged from a meteorite and has a pale, milkglass-like appearance, unlike the dark, rippled appearance typical of Valyrian steel. While it possesses legendary qualities and is exceptionally sharp and strong, it is distinct from Valyrian steel swords in both its material and appearance. The wielder of Dawn is given the title "Sword of the Morning," signifying its special status within House Dayne.
@@MedicinewithMalik did he carry ice around on his waist? i feel like that would be a waste of effort as you would have a big ass sword swinging around you whenever you turned also would have to remove it to sit down and whatnot, not to mention fighting in close quarters trying to draw that thing from your waist, this is just personal thought tho as i dont remember it specifically saying how he carries it in the books i could be wrong tho its been about 7 years since i last read.
Cregan stark has been in one scene in the show so far. And he is already a bad ass. All he needed to do was go to the edge of the wall and tell Jace even dragons are scared to go past.
Jace is the one introducing the Idea to give Vermithor and unclaimed dragon to Dragon seed. Who betrayed Rhaenyra and made the end of the Dragon.... And Black too. Jace is weak and Dumb and his a bastard.
I always feels like Stark and Targaryen's are intertwined from the very beginning, long before Aegon i conquered Westeros. 8000 Years before, BRANDON "THE BUILDER" STARK build 700 ft tall of ice wall w/ help of giants and forest of the children. To protect humanity from white walkers. Then 12 yrs before the doome of Valyria Aenar Targaryen father of Daeny Targaryen THE DREAMER moved his family to Westeros in Dragonstone. Fastforward... Aegon i Targaryen conquered and unify six kindoms (later 7) as he foreseen the longnight. So when Stark and Targaryen meet they somehow connect each other as they understood their ancestors main common cause, common ground and main enemy. Jon's Snow Stark Targaryen's parentage was no coinidence. It was meant to be from the very beginning. He's THE PRINCE THAT WAS PROMISED. Just sucks that they brought him back to life only to exile him. He should've been sitting on the iron throne w/ Daeny as his wife and continue the TARGARYEN DYNASTY...
targaeryen dickrider be like: targaeryens had their time and westeros was done with their bullshit with aerys. daenerys is delusional to think her brother rhaegar was a good SANE man much less her father
Yes, “Jon Snow” is Aegon Targaryen that King Viserys talked about to his daughter. I hope Martin will write another ending than D&D presented on screen because I feel like Daenerys becoming a selfish brat is not consistent with the character he is building in the books. She was capable of compromises in the books. She married a man she didn’t love to rule in the Eastern cities. Why wouldn’t she be able to marry Jon Snow/ Aegon then - a man whom she is in love with if that could also make her Queen of the 7 kingdom, and rule by his side? Why throwing a massive tantrum and burning a whole city, killing millions of people, going mad like her father and deciding the become a conquering dictator? It doesn’t make sense… Dany is empathetic, altruistic, she loves her people. She has always put duty first. She even locked her dragons away to protect people! And now, she’s Hitler. That’s nonsense.
No dead dany because GRRM is a savage but she gives birth to Jon’s son and Jon takes out night king or Jamie Lannister stalemates but still kills night king with valeryin steel arm sword
Yes it would've been a great episode. Something they would've done in the earlier game of thrones seasons where they didn't rush what would be key character interactions or bonds built between those characters. HotD had so much potential and it's fallen short imo. It gives me GoT season 7/8 vibes (Definitely better than GoT S8) with how rushed it seems to me in some episodes. Yes I know they're flying around everywhere on dragon back lol but some characters are one place and then another in the space of half an episode like in season 7/8 GoT. I miss the character developments etc when two characters would just be travelling on horse back and it could last a few episodes or the whole season. The Hound and Arya for example, Jamie and Brienne all the other adventures characters were on. Yeah I know they don't wanna make as many seasons as GoT and the focus is story of the war and who's going to win/lose but I think having episodes like this would make the show closer to the level of earlier GoT. HotD it seems it's just small council meetings about what they should or shouldn't do, flying around asking for loyalty and oaths, being told yes or no, fairly sudden fight scenes that didn't have much prep or planning actually shown to us on screen from either side. Daemon being Daemon And that's the cycle haha. I love Daemon so that's all good haha. If only they could listen to all our opinions and let us help hahaha but hey remember opinions are like assholes everyone's got one 😂
@@jamesdumelow7942 it's honestly quite a fair take 😆 the show hotd focuses more story-driven imo, which i also wished it was more character-driven (welp, the door isnt closed yet, i do hope they'll explore these individual figures & interactions in later episodes or seasons)
i like cregan stark in the show but i wish he looked a bit older. in the books they specifically say that despite cregan being 23 he looked and acted older
@@michaelcorleone1298 bro I was talking to this original commenter not you. People in this comment section are trying to force this idea anytime in "history" when two dudes were friends, it must have meant they were actually gay and historians just "cover it up" or whatever nonsense progressives believe now
Really bummed they didn't make jace and cregans bastard sister a thing..... If the show did 10 episodes it would have added a lot more depth to jaces character. That connection honestly is vital to how the show ends
I like to think the hour of the wolf comes more from stark being mad that not only his queen was dead but his newly made friend in Jace was dead as well.
Exactly, so much thing to explore but they decided to make a stupid link with GoT and ruined the whole lore with "aegon's prophecy" that doesnt make sense
Can someone please.......please tell me a order to read all the books. All around the Game of thrones universe.(Including house of Targaryen...and knight of seven kingdoms etc)
😂Bro this 200 years before the game of thrones Spoiler * * * * * * * * * * * Jacaeryes died in battle and pack of ice and fire is not complete. But last cregen stark will march south in support for blacks but at the time rhaenyra and all other leaders of black will die including daemon. So cregen stark fight in the name of their son aegon 3. Some theory says in the books Arya and jon will complete the pack of ice and fire not sure.
The starks would have gotten a dragon. And perhaps like that we'd see other houses getting dragons. Could this have been a worse outcome down the line though? We saw what happened when the hightowers got dragons 😬
The question is not entirely on topic, but if Jace would become a ruler after Rhanaerya it would mean establishement of Velaryon dynasty and the end of Targaryen?
They make jacaerys look like a wimp in the show. Hes a bad mf in the books. He secured alliance's, ruled, and made all the family decisions when rhanaerya was recovering from a miscarriage and the death of her son. Which ironically shows why the crown should pass to male heir
The show keeps cutting all these great scenes for what? People sitting around saying they dont know what to do or hallucinating in a castle? It is disappointing how much they are wasting the second season of HOTD on irrelevant things vs stuff like this.
The Starks (and the entire North in general) are simply built different. If you can get them on your side, you can't lose.
Straight facts.
@@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye is because of their honors are tight, although they lose it somehow in GOT they manage to take it back. I miss Leanna Mormont
The Lannister’s send their regards
@@camakaze1330liking the lannisters during the war of the 5 kings is such odd behavior
@@ultraspeedy4911 where did I say I liked them
Once Rhanaerya secured the north you know she was going to win. No queen or king has ever lost a war with the north as their Allie’s. Though Rhanaerya grief stricken and angry is what cost her life in the end. She stopped being strategic and just starting relying on brute force
She wasn’t strategic from the very start
In the Book she didn't win tho
Except war of 5 kings
@@shashankdwivedi5694they were winning until the red weeding(Exchse me English is not my first languages)
She doesn’t win though
Cregan Stark was carrying the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' on his back unlike Ned Starks who carried it on his waist. Jon snow also carried his Valyrian steel sword 'longclaw' on his back in the books.
Cregan Stark and Jon snow both were too short for their Valyrian steel swords 'Ice' and 'Longclaw' respectively. So they tied it to their back unlike Ned Stark who tied the the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' to his waist because he was a man of big stature. People don't realise that both Ice and Longclaw are very big swords compared to others. Although Ice is bigger.
@@MedicinewithMaliklet’s not forget about Ser Author Daynes legendary sword “Dawn” thing was freakin huge
@@5inisterftw I think the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' is bigger than the sword 'Dawn. Also Dawn is not a Valyrian steel sword. In "A Song of Ice and Fire," Dawn is a unique and ancient sword belonging to House Dayne. It is forged from a meteorite and has a pale, milkglass-like appearance, unlike the dark, rippled appearance typical of Valyrian steel. While it possesses legendary qualities and is exceptionally sharp and strong, it is distinct from Valyrian steel swords in both its material and appearance. The wielder of Dawn is given the title "Sword of the Morning," signifying its special status within House Dayne.
@@MedicinewithMalik did he carry ice around on his waist? i feel like that would be a waste of effort as you would have a big ass sword swinging around you whenever you turned also would have to remove it to sit down and whatnot, not to mention fighting in close quarters trying to draw that thing from your waist, this is just personal thought tho as i dont remember it specifically saying how he carries it in the books i could be wrong tho its been about 7 years since i last read.
@@MikeTythonLLChe never had ice on his hip he wore a bastard sword that had a near identical design to Ice tho.
Cregan stark has been in one scene in the show so far.
And he is already a bad ass. All he needed to do was go to the edge of the wall and tell Jace even dragons are scared to go past.
Can’t wait for the ‘Hour of the Wolf’ scene!
Cregan Stark was bad ass in the books as well, every Lord shut his mouth when Cregan enter the hall.
Hopefully we get a spin-off or something about him
Hopefully we see Cregan use Ice to loop off old Lord Club Foot, Laryse Strong’s head 😂
@@Caffiend_NYCyou gonna be waiting four more years pal
Jace saved the Blacks war effort. With strength, honor, possibly an incling of Aegons's dream. And a true "break bones" mentality. ❤
Or with one hell of a blowjob.
*looks at the brokeback wall vibes going on*
🤔
Yeah, definitely the BJ...
Jace is the one introducing the Idea to give Vermithor and unclaimed dragon to Dragon seed. Who betrayed Rhaenyra and made the end of the Dragon.... And Black too. Jace is weak and Dumb and his a bastard.
Jace wouldʻve been a good king. Might not have that silver hair and is a bastard but better than the others.
Dog I loved their scene together. Just felt right. And when cregan says "death" oof 😭
Pact of Ice and Fire😎
In the long run ice and fire still find it's way back in game of thrones (In the song of ice and fire story)
I always feels like Stark and Targaryen's are intertwined from the very beginning, long before Aegon i conquered Westeros. 8000 Years before, BRANDON "THE BUILDER" STARK build 700 ft tall of ice wall w/ help of giants and forest of the children. To protect humanity from white walkers. Then 12 yrs before the doome of Valyria Aenar Targaryen father of Daeny Targaryen THE DREAMER moved his family to Westeros in Dragonstone. Fastforward... Aegon i Targaryen conquered and unify six kindoms (later 7) as he foreseen the longnight. So when Stark and Targaryen meet they somehow connect each other as they understood their ancestors main common cause, common ground and main enemy. Jon's Snow Stark Targaryen's parentage was no coinidence. It was meant to be from the very beginning. He's THE PRINCE THAT WAS PROMISED. Just sucks that they brought him back to life only to exile him. He should've been sitting on the iron throne w/ Daeny as his wife and continue the TARGARYEN DYNASTY...
targaeryen dickrider be like:
targaeryens had their time and westeros was done with their bullshit with aerys. daenerys is delusional to think her brother rhaegar was a good SANE man much less her father
Daenerys targaryen was too prod too give her throne to Jon snow. She became very selfish unlike jon snow who bent the knee for their people
Yes, “Jon Snow” is Aegon Targaryen that King Viserys talked about to his daughter.
I hope Martin will write another ending than D&D presented on screen because I feel like Daenerys becoming a selfish brat is not consistent with the character he is building in the books. She was capable of compromises in the books. She married a man she didn’t love to rule in the Eastern cities. Why wouldn’t she be able to marry Jon Snow/ Aegon then - a man whom she is in love with if that could also make her Queen of the 7 kingdom, and rule by his side?
Why throwing a massive tantrum and burning a whole city, killing millions of people, going mad like her father and deciding the become a conquering dictator? It doesn’t make sense… Dany is empathetic, altruistic, she loves her people. She has always put duty first. She even locked her dragons away to protect people! And now, she’s Hitler. That’s nonsense.
Dany was sterile after the birth of her dragons
No dead dany because GRRM is a savage but she gives birth to Jon’s son and Jon takes out night king or Jamie Lannister stalemates but still kills night king with valeryin steel arm sword
"Juhkaris" "Kr33gan"
AI slop
Can he just talk about who good of a negotiator Jace was he over things that didn’t yet have
Imo they should have dedicated a whole episode to this story arc. The writers fumbled the opportunity of what could have been a fantastic episode.
Yes it would've been a great episode. Something they would've done in the earlier game of thrones seasons where they didn't rush what would be key character interactions or bonds built between those characters. HotD had so much potential and it's fallen short imo. It gives me GoT season 7/8 vibes (Definitely better than GoT S8) with how rushed it seems to me in some episodes. Yes I know they're flying around everywhere on dragon back lol but some characters are one place and then another in the space of half an episode like in season 7/8 GoT. I miss the character developments etc when two characters would just be travelling on horse back and it could last a few episodes or the whole season. The Hound and Arya for example, Jamie and Brienne all the other adventures characters were on. Yeah I know they don't wanna make as many seasons as GoT and the focus is story of the war and who's going to win/lose but I think having episodes like this would make the show closer to the level of earlier GoT. HotD it seems it's just small council meetings about what they should or shouldn't do, flying around asking for loyalty and oaths, being told yes or no, fairly sudden fight scenes that didn't have much prep or planning actually shown to us on screen from either side. Daemon being Daemon And that's the cycle haha. I love Daemon so that's all good haha.
If only they could listen to all our opinions and let us help hahaha but hey remember opinions are like assholes everyone's got one 😂
Sorry that was an essay yapping more than I need to haha
@@jamesdumelow7942 it's honestly quite a fair take 😆
the show hotd focuses more story-driven imo, which i also wished it was more character-driven (welp, the door isnt closed yet, i do hope they'll explore these individual figures & interactions in later episodes or seasons)
Damn, Jace is way more clever than the show shows us
i like cregan stark in the show but i wish he looked a bit older. in the books they specifically say that despite cregan being 23 he looked and acted older
Rhaenyra said they are around the same age but Cregan is a Lord and grew up more quickly
@randycrawford1132 i guess depends on how they want to go with thr timeline because they took away stuff from the books
Jaecaerys should be the same age as daeron the fourth son of viserys and alicent.
@@randycrawford1132 north air
Bro he looks fantastic in the show young by body but old by acting
Historians will say they were roommates
Oh my god they were roommates
Y'all are so obsessed with forcing homosexuality on everything
@@TheSpaniard dude it was a vine back in the day lol look it up 😂 I ain’t the one big dawg
@@michaelcorleone1298 bro I was talking to this original commenter not you. People in this comment section are trying to force this idea anytime in "history" when two dudes were friends, it must have meant they were actually gay and historians just "cover it up" or whatever nonsense progressives believe now
@@TheSpaniard dude, usually I'd agree with you but on this one, even my mind went there.
Serious "Brokeback wall" vibes going on there.
I stopped the video at Ja-Karys. ✋️ 😂
And Jace never had a daughter … so Cregan was not gaining anything at some point but he still kept the promise.
Wish we could have seen more of the north in HOTD S2 E1
More Cregan Stark! More Cregan Stark!!
Better then the 5 min conversation in a tv series 😂
Than*
If I don’t see bloody fooking ben, red Robb, and black aly and ALL the lads next season im gonna have an aneurysm
I wish we saw more of their interaction and then coexistence
J A K A Y E R U S!
The starts are the best ❤
Marriage is vital thing in life 🎉 it brings peace/people together
Really bummed they didn't make jace and cregans bastard sister a thing..... If the show did 10 episodes it would have added a lot more depth to jaces character. That connection honestly is vital to how the show ends
Cregan is a real one
Was I the only who thought the actor had a really, really cool voice?
One of Aegon 3 daughters could have married the stark to honour the pact of ice and fire
My thoughts exactly. Starks were left with nothing, as usual.
Can't wait to see the winter wolves
I like to think the hour of the wolf comes more from stark being mad that not only his queen was dead but his newly made friend in Jace was dead as well.
I like how in the show they shortened that to a trip to the wall and ….. yeah that was it 😅
If only Lucerys had the presence of mind to make an offer of some sort to the Baratheons
I love how people say the blacks didn’t win but if it was up to ole boy Cregan none of the greens bloodlines would have continued😭
Prince of the realm.
Could you make a separate video for HOD title credits?
Gotcha
Stay tuned and thanks for the suggestion!!
shame they didn't show any of this in the show. i want more depth for the other houses, all we see are little glimpses, make it more grand!
Excited for hour of the wolf❤❤😊😊
Hope they keep the hour of the wolf
Then they proceed to walk really slow until the war is over
That's kinda 💅💅💅
Hell yeah was watching game of thrones before my family got hooked onto it lol 😂 😂😂😂😂😂now I’m about the house of dragon
They butchered this on the show
Among many other things.
The casting you mean?
They haven’t shown everything yet
@@banan_9672 the whole situation
Exactly, so much thing to explore but they decided to make a stupid link with GoT and ruined the whole lore with "aegon's prophecy" that doesnt make sense
If only more detail was shown in their meeting. There’s a lot they cut form the book
Can someone please.......please tell me a order to read all the books. All around the Game of thrones universe.(Including house of Targaryen...and knight of seven kingdoms etc)
Petition to get (if fit and gets to that age) Brendan Fraser for Cregan.
If Cregan came early, Rhaenyra would've won the war. 😢
If that’s true then the starks carry Targaryen blood in them since Rickon was the father of Ned
😂Bro this 200 years before the game of thrones
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Jacaeryes died in battle and pack of ice and fire is not complete. But last cregen stark will march south in support for blacks but at the time rhaenyra and all other leaders of black will die including daemon. So cregen stark fight in the name of their son aegon 3. Some theory says in the books Arya and jon will complete the pack of ice and fire not sure.
HBO completely dropped the ball.
This could have a been entire episode.
It was the hour of the wolf that finally gave the crown to the blacks.
Jace and Cregan bromance of ice and fire
The starks would have gotten a dragon. And perhaps like that we'd see other houses getting dragons. Could this have been a worse outcome down the line though? We saw what happened when the hightowers got dragons 😬
He would of been a good king shame really what happened to him
The question is not entirely on topic, but if Jace would become a ruler after Rhanaerya it would mean establishement of Velaryon dynasty and the end of Targaryen?
Yum I want a pact with Craegan too
I think cregan stark looks like George Washington
Imagine if we got any of this instead of the shitbwe got
Rhaeneras oldest son is actually Cristin Cole’s son. Not Harwin strong
Deamon son will become king
Sound like lovers to me
Y'all are so obsessed with forcing homosexuality on everything aren't you
@@TheSpaniard that's crazy people for you
Always forcing shid down your throat just like they get done
Yes bro we know we watched the 1st episode
Jacaerys was HIM.
"A people which has a woman as a leader will never prosper
Cassie do u mind sharing the brand and name of that black nylon bag with pearl detailing strap? Thank u
Who is Creegan? It's Cregan.
In the tv show they both will be gay watch out folks. Juicy season coming our way! It’s going to one for the books!
They make jacaerys look like a wimp in the show. Hes a bad mf in the books. He secured alliance's, ruled, and made all the family decisions when rhanaerya was recovering from a miscarriage and the death of her son. Which ironically shows why the crown should pass to male heir
So ur saying they had time to drink hunt and train together? While the war was starting?
His name is Strong lol.
They were lovers.
The show keeps cutting all these great scenes for what? People sitting around saying they dont know what to do or hallucinating in a castle? It is disappointing how much they are wasting the second season of HOTD on irrelevant things vs stuff like this.
Oh so you'd rather see Jace in the north with a badass Stark over a Lannister mud wrestle a transformer? Real nice..
Wait!! So the starks do have Targaryen blood??
nope, this never happened bc jace died before ever having a daughter thus, the pact wasn’t able to be honored
only john snow
@@lolnty7408 oh ok thank you
@@cerinia gotcha thanks
Strong alliance😊
Cregan stark gives absolutely no fucks in the books.
Its Jacaerys... Not Jakaerys! 😂
Pact with a bastard 😂😂😂😂😂.
Still a fucking targaryen blood!
@@MyKaty24 They are Targaryen from Wish
@@MyKaty24 nope
Jakayeris 😂
Jace also enjoyed a tumble with a winter rose. Shouldve just stayed in the north tbh.
what episode is this?
Season 2 - episode 2
yeah the Targaryen's didn't fulfill their side of the pact.....
* couldn't *
@@lydiabrady9000 ....couldn't or wouldn't?
Couldn't @@zoluhwa3508
@@zoluhwa3508Jace dies before he's able to have a kid.......
@@zoluhwa3508 Jace couldn't cause he died before he even got married.
Just wait until HBO turns this into a gay relationship between the two 💀💀
true
I bet the tv series will turn them gay
You cant have someone as brother but also lover
Jeckaerys
Ja-Kay-eris smh
Strong
Isn't Jace already berthold to his stepsister Baela?
Yes, he made a pact to betrothe his future daughter with Cregan Starks son.
And people wonder why european dominated the globe, we built different, well were built different 😅
How are people supposed to believe this guys some kind of game of thrones expert when he mispronounces every name.. guess it could be AI voiceover too
WoW
JAKERES
Jacerys targaryan
😮😢😢😢
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Jake strong, not jake valeryn.
Blacks lost against greens. It was northern forces led by starks who crowned son of Rhaneyra after some dumbwit poisoned Aegon-the true king.
Bromance
Please start pronouncing his name correctly. It’s not K, it’s S sound.
Please can you pronounce the name correctly? No offence I dont want to sound rude but it does not sound right.
Isn’t Cregan weak af? Like rob stark
Who is Je-Ke-eris?
They also totally boned.