@@miekgg He’s good in that too but he’s trying to play a country white guy and his accent just wasn’t right at all to me. I will say he was pretty good in that finale. I like him more as Oberyn though
That's because seasons 1-4 are heavily based off the books. Around mid season 5 they ran out of books and you can tell because everything gets so stupidly simple and people just start teleporting to say a one liner
I absolutely loved Oberyn but in hindsight I'm kind of happy that his journey ended in season 4 so D&D couldn't mess up this brilliant character. Same goes for Tywin.
Somewhat hidden in the book is that Tywin is going to die soon, regardless of Tyrion's crossbolt. Because he was already poisoned by Oberyn before the the trial-by-combat.
Efectivamente, D&D hicieron todo lo que estaba en sus manos para que dejara de amar a los Stark, ellos ganaron, pero a costa de destrozar toda empatía que sentía hacia ellos, en fin, intentaré olvidar y esperar a Vientos de Invierno
@@rainerwahnsinn5655 thats awesome. i had an oberyn character in dark souls 2, theres some cloth 'armour' that looks like his gear and i used the twinblade. wasnt quite his weapon but the weapon art and moveset was very similar
When Bronn tells Tyrion he won’t fight for him, he foreshadows Oberyn’s death. He says maybe he’d get lucky and dance around the Mountain until he gets tired and drops his sword. “Get him off his feet somehow, but one misstep and I’m dead.” Described Oberyn’s fight exactly 😢
The difference is Bronn would probably have won since he had no personal beef with the Mountain. It was Oberyn's anger and emotion that killed him, the Mountain was getting his cheeks clapped up until the very last moment. I think if it had been Bronn, he really could have pulled it off. But at the same time he made the right call not risking it.
@@owenleal Bronn _could_ have done it, but he wasn't skilled enough to be sure to win, he's far less skilled than Oberyn who wiped the floor with the Mountain. Bronn is too pragmatic to take such big risks.
That fight honestly doesn’t make sense. There have been times in history where guys with the same profile as The Mountain just let the other guy spam the same dirty trick over and over til they realize they were the honorable fool the entire time and die from blood loss (my favorite example being the invention of the Coup de Jarnac)
Bron had something to lose. The reward would never offset the risk of what he had already achieved. No matter who the opponent was, Tyrrion did not have enough to offset Bron becoming an enemy of the other Lannisters.
Bronn gained his sword fighting skill through using it not fancy training from a tutor. His character shows this time and again by accurately sizing up situations and other warriors even if others disregard it as his usual banter.
Even Oberyn's "weakness" is likeable -- he loved his sister and her children so much that even after years he is still seeking vengeance for their gruesome deaths. He would go up in public, accuse one of the, if not THE, most powerful men in the realm and call them out on this injustice and frankly war crime that has been committed against his family. His quest is just and we feel for him as the audience. We root for him. We want so much for him to succeed. And his failure and death is devastating in itself, but amplified because it was tied to Tyrion's fate as well, another very well liked character. George really shined in creating Oberyn.
The show just plays it off as his lover's vengeance, but he's trained his daughters as fighters since they were little to exact vengeance and it is what gets them killed in the end. I'd say that's why vengeance is his weakness; he doesn't recognize that pursuing it endlessly will ultimately get his entire family killed, when it is his family he wishes to protect.
Oberyn and the Martell Royal family is second only "Baratheons" and the main royal family in terms of Hierarchy and the Dorne army most likely could repel any Lannister army. In terms of combat Oberyn would mop Tywin him being an older man and not being known for his swordsmanship. Oberyn really had nothing to fear from Tywin in his eyes and he had every right to be confident.
@@StraightBleach You are right, although Tywin was supposedly noted for his swordsmanship in his youth according to Genna Lannister who may be somewhat biased although he was not said to be on Jaime's level.
Tywin would have never made the mistake he did with the Mountain. it was stupid and idiotic. far from being a perfect character, one of the most stupid yes.
I agree by far 👍😎 normally Tywin is ALWAYS the most powerful and interesting man in the room😎and to have Oberyn come in, and completely out charisma him, is absolutely fantastic 😘👍 There's a lot of people worried about Pedro Pascal's perfect as Reed Richards in the MCU, this is what the man brings to that table 😎a man that refuses to be overlooked, because of that CHARISMA 😉😎
In the fight scene I was so hype up for him winning, to the point I felt that something could go wrong here, and it did. I remembered staring blank into the ceiling in despair, felt like everything is so numb for minutes after the episode ended. GOT was truly at its peak back then.
@@stephenjohn2131It was kind of terrible and made no sense, like it’s fantasy and all but a dude that big wearing that much armor would be all but immune to a spear. If the writing was any good or logical at all, the mountain would’ve just walked through the spear and smacked Oberyn on the head and killed him without getting injured that much of any at all.
@@kshamwhizzle6544 My man it doesn’t matter with a simple spear against someone like the mountain who in the books wears like two inch thick plate armor, doesn’t matter how tired he gets, he’s winning unless you got a modern firearm. Martin’s writing and worldbuilding is actually kind of bad. He’s only really good at writing characters.
this vid made me realise he is an example of the exact same trope grrm used with Rob Stark, a competent likable character who in any other story would be the chosen one but loses because of one simple mistake. I think its George Martin satirizing the fantasy cliches we like. in any other show they would be Aragorn.
Its a philosophy. People that are driven by vengence always end up in the wrong place. Think about robert baratheon. He got his vengence for the death lyanna stark but then he became king and lived a miserable life. Vengence doesnt give you peace.
It's kinda weird looking back, like where is Oberyn's small magical sidekick that forces Oberyn to become an unlikely father figure along the way? Is it Tyrion? Tyrion doesn't use the Force or have fungus-killing blood though lol
@@marioguidotomasone1265 yeah, he was one of my most favorite characters. I knew he would die in duel. But martin gave us hope that he won. That was such a hard breaking moment.
"I disagree. I've come to the perfect place. I want to bring those who have wronged me to justice, and all those who have wronged me are right here" What a line. Chills
I was a teenager during the show… Oberyns death literally gave me nightmares. Yeah it was gruesome, but that wasn’t why it haunted me. I had become so enveloped in his character and his motives. How he delivered his lines and the morals of his character. His willingness to stand up to the “Golden Lion” made his death for me so absolutely heart crushing. I’d have the same nightmare of his head being crushed, followed by the screams of his woman and then me waking up. Truly a great and relatable character. I felt like I’d lost a friend. I literally mourned him, I was that hurt hurt over his death.
You just reminded me of the good days of GoT and explained perfectly why I like Oberyn so much. In those days of GoT, it had huge consequences if a character made a mistake and I felt excited and scared for Oberyn to take on the Mountain. I still remember yelling at the screen "finish him" as Oberyn started circling the Mountain. I knew he wasn't safe until the Mountain was dead and then IT happened and Oberyn lost. After that I just sat in silence trying to understand how everything had changed for Tyrion. The next day at school me and my friends talked about it all day. Pedro Pascal put in a great performance and GoT really was at it's peak.
To this day the only part of GOT that really irritated me was Cersei blowing up the sept of Baelor, the holiest site in the realm and not only kinslaying but also murdering the tyrells. And suffered no consequences, of course Tommen but I’m talking about outside forces against her or the commonfolk just literally anything.
@@jaybe9627 really that's the only one ? I think starting from season 5 there is a ton I don't like, but makes sense since they started deviating from the books like in the example you mention.
@@alexgarcia2k I mean it's not the only one but it was the first no turning back one I really remember, so it hit the hardest. By season 7 I was pretty much entirely checked out and only watching out of curiosity and because it was a series I watched along with friends. Season 4 was the last really good season imo.
GRRM plays with Stereotypes and pre-conceived expectations so well, for example Oberyn is like an adventurous bisexual playboy that likes partying, but he has this ultimate and pure goal of avenging his sister, he's an insanely skilled warrior but he prefers to plan things out and murder people with poison rather than just overpower them, it's like he melds all kinds of different characters into one.
Hence why his nickname "THE RED VIPER" is well-deserved. The show frames Tywin as merely taking a shit when he dies, but it's way more sinister in the books.... the implication being that Oberyn was poisoning him.
@@runek100 It's only hinted that Tywin may have been poisoned, because his corpse started smelling really, really bad only days after he died, too quickly for it to be natural rot and people often fainted from the unnatural smell when they came to pay their respects. Tywin did not show any symptoms of poisoning while he was still alive, but this is potentially owed to the fact that the poison was designed to work very, very slow, in order to erase any suspicion.
I love how Oberyn is such a good fighter that he has actually won the fight against The Mountain, and only lost because he didn't finish him when he should have
It was really cool having a character show up so far into the show, that seemed so morally good. Most of the characters in the show were enemies to our main protagonist, so it was nice having this force of nature enter out of nowhere and attempt to fight against the lannisters.
@@a-c6586 because he was consumed by revenge. He was ruthless, using poison to slowly kill his enemies. And he enjoyed watching it. He was also very narcissistic. Like he is complex character and even with right reasons for revenge, he was not a good guy. Although he might seem like one, when you compare it to most of the characters in books. But he was definitely one of my most favorite characters.
How does Oberyn hating the Lannisters paint him more like a villain? By that time, we already hate most of the Lannisters and seeing Oberyn, a new character, willingly and openly stand up to them wins us over. So him being a good guy isn't really a twist.
It's not that we think he's a villain necessarily, just that we suspect his agenda to be the same as most of the characters in King's landing, a player in the Game of Thrones. His agenda at first seems rather vulture like, to come and twist things up because there's clearly a power struggle in Westeros. In some respects, he is a player of the game, but the twist is that he is not after power, he's after vengeance. That's what makes him more sincere and likeable as a character amongst the backstabbers and schemers in King's Landing. He never lies or schemes and is open about his nature, and you sense he is hiding something, but he's actually not. Bare in mind we see Varys and Shae testify against Tyrion before that, all of Tyrion's allies turn against him, and in comes Oberyn with a goal other than self preservation or power, and that's the twist.
@𝘿𝙖𝙧𝙠 𝙘𝙝𝙤𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙨 yes but he fumbles when he talks...he doesn't talk like a king (exhibit : Jodha Akbar)....that's not a role fit for him in the way he talks. Someone like ranveer singh is a better fit.
They did him very well from the book. In the book he is mostly a man of legend. Many of the KL high borns have only heard of him and his deeds and adventures. That he is a warrior to fear and admire, that he is willful and courageous but also very proud and dangerous. I like that the show gave him a lot of minutes to expand on him. The only thing I would have done in the show (and it’s not even necessary) is just talk more about his legend, his sellsword days, his daughters, his duels and his knowledge of poison but even without that, he was brilliantly adapted.
Hell, the whole rivalry with House Tyrell. The fact that he jousted vs Willas Tyrell (Pace’s oldest son, brother of Loras & Margaery) and he beat him and crippled him in the joust BUT became good friends afterwards and they wrote each other very frequently
@@roddo1955 exactly. One of my favorite scenes of his is his scene with Cercei because it washes away the warrior in him and shows us another side of who he is: a loving father
@@ferrm1992 The one where she's telling him about Myrcella and the boat she bought her? I see! I personally think that when he looked at her, shedding tears for her daughter he was like:"you will do ANYTHING to excert at least a bit of control once it's taken away from you. You want me to kill your brother so bad...you are willing to throw your daughters love in as payment." I think it was at that moment that Oberyn knew that the Lannisters for all their airs and graces, are rotten to the core.
@@roddo1955 exactly, he assures her that “we don’t hurt little girls in Dorne” and that Myrcella seems content. And Cercei tells him there’s nothing we [humans] can do to protect the ones we love, no matter power status, wealth et al
Oberyn Martell was one of my favourite characters from the show. When I started reading the books, he became even more so. One of the most interesting things for me was reading the books and discovering the true purpose of Oberyn's visit to Kings Landing. Yes, he wanted revenge for his sister (he says that repeatedly), but he also seemed to be trying to provoke the Lannisters into harming him(?)so that it could give Dorne justification for starting a war with them. He perhaps was even trying to sow division between them by supporting Tyrion and being his champion (at the time probably thinking that he was going to win the fight), knowing that that would provoke Tywin and Cersei as he already knew that they didn't like Tyrion very much. If Oberyn had won the fight, he might've succeeded in that goal. He was definitely in Kings Landing for some specific purpose like that, otherwise why would his brother, Doran, send him of all people on his behalf? Doran knew Oberyn's temperament and knew what he was doing when he sent him there. Doran is the grass that hides the viper (Oberyn) before he strikes. The fact that Tywin was shitting himself before he died was probably because of Oberyn, and the mere subtlty of that kind of conspiracy tells me that Doran was involved as well. I don't know. This comment was supposed to be about how much I miss that character, but now here we are, discussing conspiracies. I miss all of those characters actually, and that world. George needs to finish those books and give us the ending that we all deserve dammit!
Pedro basically came into a show with a full spectrum of well-established characters played by outstanding actors... then proceeded to knock it out of the park. It's a pretty mean feat to join the cast of one of the most popular shows of all time, at it's height no less, and still manage to stand out and have such a massive impact on the show.
Jacked Dorne up, completely. Then had the nerve to chose a bastard to take over as liege lord? Yeah, I know they don't disdain bastards in Dorne, but to have one take over a leige lord?? From 100s of years of successful Martell rule?? Ridiculous! Not to mention they left out Arriana, Dorran's eldest child and heir to the Dorne crown.
I didn't even realize that Season 4 happened before Narcos, I couldn't believe it at first. Don't get me wrong, I like Narcos and Pedro Pascal in it, but Oberyn feels like such a perfect and complete performance, I'm astonished it's his first major role.
I also wanted to say that i love how he is described as a legendary fighter through some of his scenes,it adds a lot of charisma to his character even before his fight
The characters who were only around for one season were easily the strongest: Oberyn, Ned, Bobby B, Drogo. Oberyn was actually a breath of fresh air for many reasons, but especially because we hadn't had a similar character since Ned, Bobby B, and Drogo all died in season 1. Honestly, once Oberyn died in season 4, other single-season characters never held a candle to these four.
Oberyn has always been in my top 3 favourite GoT characters. Like you say, from the moment he appears, and for the entire season, he's just 10/10. I could be wrong but I think I recall Pedro Pascal saying his first scene that he filmed was the monologue!
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer...unless you're Oberyn, his overconfidence got him done and dead quick af. For a character that only appeared for a single season, he's absolutely phenomenal, a wonderful study from a writing perspective on how to introduce and progress a character and making it awesome even with limited screen-time. GOT has a lot of limited-time characters that still manage to steal the spotlight whenever they appear - Olenna being one of them, for example.
I still think the conversation Oberyn and Tyrion had in the cell was one of the best scenes in the show, its my personal favorite. Tyrion is one of my favorite characters and it felt good to see a character empathize with him along with Oberyn having his own motive to get involved in the situation.
I sobbed, SOBBED, when he agreed to be Tyrion's champion. I liked him and found him a compelling character before but that moment sealed my forever love of that character (and Pedro's performance). The one GOT character death I still haven't gotten over.
Oberyn is my favourite character ever period. Not just from GOT but all time. It felt weird to me for a long time because he didn't have as much screentime as other amazing characters, but there just never has been a character i've been more obsessed with. The acting, the writing, the story... Its all fantastic
12:13 the point you made about actor's lack of charisma in the character he portrays is 1000% how I felt about Daario Naharis. Ed Skrein (the original Daario from season 2) completely dominated his role, while I felt very meh about Michiel Huisman (the replacement from season 3 onwards) portrayal.
Thank you a lot for your work on this character, please i beg you keep making Game of Thrones videos. They're always really interesting and funny, i really like your ways of reflexion and i think people on RUclips needs this kind of content !
I'll never permanently leave Game of Thrones. Especially since HBO is going to try and adapt everything George has written relating to ASOIAF. So there will always be more content to make videos on in the future. But for these in between years since they take a long time to make seasons, I may focus more on other shows/movies.
@@SupercutsDelight Of course, let's focus on what inspire you to write for ! Even if my message sounded like it, i didn't meant that i only watch your GOT videos, i just really like your work anyway ! c:
I remember the day I watched that episode, after THAT scene I just sat there for 10 minutes and then met with a friend in a middle of the night just to sit there in silence and share that feeling lol Oberyn was one of my favorite characters and I’m so happy for Pedro Pascal now ❤ I remember having a screensaver of someone’s art of Oberyn and his paramour (I forgot her name) kissing with dead Mountain in the background 😍
Tyrion: well.....sooner or later Cersei gets what she wants Oberyn: and what about what I WANT?....Justice....for Elia that was one of the most emotional lines I've ever heard
I think you did a wonderful job on this video. Don't worry about feeling like you were just rambling on. It was very well executed. I was genuinely surprised to see Oberyn's face when I went to my RUclips homepage, but I am very glad you made this video. Keep them coming Supercuts. PS I am not tired of GOT videos. They always thoroughly entertain me personally.
Great video! I love Oberyn, he's one of my favourite characters from the show. I think he's a really good example of positive masculinity actually, demonstrating you can still be very manly while also being sensual, passionate and compassionate.
His monologue with Tyrion, one of the best of the series. Id say Tywins opening scene with Jaime, and some of The "Hounds" scenes are some of the best.
Fabulous, I've felt this way since first watching him. Was struck by this amazing character portrayal. Great job in putting it into words so eloquently. Go Pedro!
Your videos keep me engaged with GoT especially since you call out good chars and scenes and the bad ones too. As long as you have ideas, keep at it my man
13:50 my favorite is when Cersei tells Oberyn that it's a shame Doran didn't show up for the wedding. Oberyn says nothing, just gives a sneer, a smirk, and a shrug. wow.
Thank you for still making videos with such quality about ASOIAF, you made me friend again with the show EDIT: Please do not stop making GoT videos there are so great and I think we are a lot to still appreciate them, you give this universe what it deserves
FWIW, I still love seeing new takes and new info about GoT. The show ended... badly... and I know the way the ending was handled caused it to drop off the radar for a lot of people, but I still rewatch often and I love the world they created.
Great video! Oberyn was my 2nd favorite character after Dany. You really did a great job of showcasing what made him such a great character in such a short time.
Totally agree. He is my all time favorite character on the show. The fight with the mountain is legendary and still shocking no matter how many times I watch it.
I was an Ice and Fire reader so when Oberyn was introduced on the show he didn’t look how I pictured him in my head. But that feeling ended pretty quickly. Pedro Pascal owned the character. He was the quintessential “renaissance man.” The guy men want to be like and women want to be with.
Oberyn was phenomenal!!! I was so shocked when then killed him off in that way😂😂that still is insane to me. But that’s what game of thrones did best. Shock the audience better than any show I’ve seen.
so I just finished affc and I can’t believe how absolutely AMAZING Oberyn is. The show paints him as a likable menace, where the books make him feel like a character that should 100% be a villain. Which he is, he’s just a big villain towards the Lannisters instead of the p.o.v. character in king’s landing, Tyrion. It’s beautiful how George made an extremely grey character by pinning a villainous character vs a villainous group. Love my man and Pedro really made that role 10/10
Your GoT videos are my absolute favourites and 9 times out of 10 you're articulating what I've been thinking, which is super cathartic to listen to as a GoT nerd. I personally would be disappointed if you stopped making these videos to focus on other topics. I get so excited when I see a new GoT video. When I saw this one I almost choked on my pie.
Love Pedro. Sure, he's being oversaturated on the screen, but hit fame late in life. Can't hate on him for capitalizing while there is time. So great in TLoU as well
Oberyn's death is very shocking, but Bronn interestingly predicted it almost exactly. When Bronn was explaining to Tyrion why he did not want to fight the Mountain, he acknowledged that he, as a smaller nimbler man, could possibly "dance" around the Mountain, slowly wearing him down, and could win by doing so. This is of course how Oberyn defeated the mountain, literally "dancing" around him with acrobatics and quick maneuvering. However, Bronn stated that one minor slip-up would allow the immensely dangerous Mountain to kill him. Oberyn stepped in the wrong spot, and looked away at just the wrong moment; one minor slip-up.
I loved this guy so much, and was cheering for him the most I have in that excellent series, and his death was by far the saddest (although Robb’s was heart wrenching.
Absolutely stellar minor character...explosive entrance, understandable motivation, prior rapport with crucial characters, commanding presence in all scenes, relevance to many subplots, and exit highly impactful to the rest of the story...rare example of side characters that don't exist just for fluff
I remember watching him fight the mountain, even though I had read the books twice at that point, Pedro was so good I thought for a moment he might win this, he doesn't have to die, the show might be different..then BAM splat there goes his head. It's such a disgrace with what the show did to the Dorne plot. it's like he died for nothing.
I remember reading the trial by combat and being utterly shocked, but watching it was such an experience, because even though i knew, it still was so well built and executed that it still shocked me. Same with the Red Wedding. When Game of Thrones was good, it was amazing.
His death was heart breaking. Dorne as I understood it is analogous to Al-Andalus IRL. His mannerisms, bad boy vibe, disobedience and esthetics are all reminiscent of Alfa energy in Morrorco and Southern Spain, and Portugal to a lesser extent. I found myself rooting for him but the moment he walked into that arena I knew it was gonna be the end.
I would definetly love to see more GoT content, Im sad S8 killed all the hype around it, cause being in the community disccusing episodes characters theories and future plots was one of the must fun times ever in my life.
Oberyn was so good that I, who had read the books in high school in the mid-00's watched was what then the greatest show on earth in a room filled with people that did not know the twist was coming.... During the fight, I was SO HYPED by how good it all was, that I let myself join in the cult-like mentality that took over, and I found myself utterly engaged with the prospect of his ASSURED VICTORY even when I knew rationally that the writers would never rewrite what is one of the greatest plot points in the books... So, basically, a character so well-written, so well-adapted and brilliantly portrayed by their performer, that it made someone who had by then engaged actively and quite feverishly with this story for the past TEN YEARS or so lose their mind completely from the twist... The emotional resonance the character produced was great enough so as to blind me from the obvious truth that was about to hit, and I was deeply shocked by the "twist" that was not in fact a twist at all. I remember that watching the show during S3 with the same group of friends who had never read the books, during the Red Wedding I was no longer focused on the screen, but on my friends' reactions. But, during Viper x Mountain, I was fully, utterly invested. 10/10.... DnD are shitty writers, but they were very good with adapting the material while they had it, or at least the parts which they chose to adapt. Their choices of what to leave out were not committed or roadmapped, which is why the show suffered so much. The first four seasons give us such a rich tapestry, that is entirely ignored/simplified by latter seasons - even if you didn't read the books there is no ignoring that. They JUST KINDA FORGOT. The "just kinda forgot" moment is so emblematic because I have it in my heart of hearts that you can actually see it in his face, real-time, that he JUST KINDA REMEMBERED that it makes no fucking sense at all just as the question is being answered. The tragedy of how this 'greatest show on earth' became the greatest shitshow of all time at least gave us neverending RUclips commentary content, so there's that... GRRM will never finish the books in this life, so I guess thanks for the memories everyone - and Pedro Pascal is definitely on top of that list, along with Charles Dance. They had the benefit of being "written off the show" by the original author, so they left when their arcs were properly and logically concluded within the context of this rich tapestry of a story that we had until S4. Rest in pieces my lovely Prince.
The scene where the brothel guy tells oberyn that “everyone has a preference” (when it comes to sexuality) and he responds with “then everyone is missing half the world’s pleasure” is such a beautiful and nuanced exploration of sexuality and attraction. I really love this show for treating lgbtq characters with care; depicting the harsh realities and judgement we face (with Loras) while also showing through Oberyn that people like us can still find joy and pleasure even in such a cruel world, without ever feeling unrealistic. It’s super nice and refreshing to see, and we always love to see a pansexual pedro pascal
Had a coworker who loved Oberyn. Whenever I needed him to pick up a shift he’d reply “I will be your champion” lol
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Oberyn's death was so shocking that Pedro now always wears a helmet and refuses to remove it.
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@@jackintheville its an old joke. good morning, welcome to internet
@@trimbau Joke was made many times, my comment is original though ;)
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Oberyn is 100% Pedros best acting performance, he left such an impact in just 1 season, he made season 4 the best season tbh.
yeah nahhhh no Last of Us is too good 👍
well written stories with great dialogue really light a fire under a great actor
@@miekgg He’s good in that too but he’s trying to play a country white guy and his accent just wasn’t right at all to me. I will say he was pretty good in that finale.
I like him more as Oberyn though
That's because seasons 1-4 are heavily based off the books. Around mid season 5 they ran out of books and you can tell because everything gets so stupidly simple and people just start teleporting to say a one liner
@@CaleebTalib i never played the game so it didnt bother me but i can defo see where your coming from
I absolutely loved Oberyn but in hindsight I'm kind of happy that his journey ended in season 4 so D&D couldn't mess up this brilliant character. Same goes for Tywin.
His character sorta ended in season 8 because his attacks on the mountain ended up causing the hound having to kill himself to end him.
Somewhat hidden in the book is that Tywin is going to die soon, regardless of Tyrion's crossbolt. Because he was already poisoned by Oberyn before the the trial-by-combat.
I actually made my D&D character in Oberyns image! I have a lot of fun playing him! 😂
Efectivamente, D&D hicieron todo lo que estaba en sus manos para que dejara de amar a los Stark, ellos ganaron, pero a costa de destrozar toda empatía que sentía hacia ellos, en fin, intentaré olvidar y esperar a Vientos de Invierno
@@rainerwahnsinn5655 thats awesome. i had an oberyn character in dark souls 2, theres some cloth 'armour' that looks like his gear and i used the twinblade. wasnt quite his weapon but the weapon art and moveset was very similar
When Bronn tells Tyrion he won’t fight for him, he foreshadows Oberyn’s death. He says maybe he’d get lucky and dance around the Mountain until he gets tired and drops his sword. “Get him off his feet somehow, but one misstep and I’m dead.” Described Oberyn’s fight exactly 😢
The difference is Bronn would probably have won since he had no personal beef with the Mountain. It was Oberyn's anger and emotion that killed him, the Mountain was getting his cheeks clapped up until the very last moment. I think if it had been Bronn, he really could have pulled it off. But at the same time he made the right call not risking it.
@@owenleal Bronn _could_ have done it, but he wasn't skilled enough to be sure to win, he's far less skilled than Oberyn who wiped the floor with the Mountain. Bronn is too pragmatic to take such big risks.
That fight honestly doesn’t make sense. There have been times in history where guys with the same profile as The Mountain just let the other guy spam the same dirty trick over and over til they realize they were the honorable fool the entire time and die from blood loss (my favorite example being the invention of the Coup de Jarnac)
Bron had something to lose.
The reward would never offset the risk of what he had already achieved.
No matter who the opponent was, Tyrrion did not have enough to offset Bron becoming an enemy of the other Lannisters.
Bronn gained his sword fighting skill through using it not fancy training from a tutor. His character shows this time and again by accurately sizing up situations and other warriors even if others disregard it as his usual banter.
Even Oberyn's "weakness" is likeable -- he loved his sister and her children so much that even after years he is still seeking vengeance for their gruesome deaths. He would go up in public, accuse one of the, if not THE, most powerful men in the realm and call them out on this injustice and frankly war crime that has been committed against his family. His quest is just and we feel for him as the audience. We root for him. We want so much for him to succeed. And his failure and death is devastating in itself, but amplified because it was tied to Tyrion's fate as well, another very well liked character. George really shined in creating Oberyn.
The show just plays it off as his lover's vengeance, but he's trained his daughters as fighters since they were little to exact vengeance and it is what gets them killed in the end. I'd say that's why vengeance is his weakness; he doesn't recognize that pursuing it endlessly will ultimately get his entire family killed, when it is his family he wishes to protect.
@@morgenzon69When you prepare to do revenge, dig two graves.
Oberyn and the Martell Royal family is second only "Baratheons" and the main royal family in terms of Hierarchy and the Dorne army most likely could repel any Lannister army. In terms of combat Oberyn would mop Tywin him being an older man and not being known for his swordsmanship.
Oberyn really had nothing to fear from Tywin in his eyes and he had every right to be confident.
Great analysis. Its like reading the book again for the first time again.
@@StraightBleach You are right, although Tywin was supposedly noted for his swordsmanship in his youth according to Genna Lannister who may be somewhat biased although he was not said to be on Jaime's level.
The scene when he accepts to fight for Tyrion literally gave me goosebumps 🔥💯🔥
Fun Fact: They actually filmed that on Padro's first day!
@@deadlyknights1119 😯😯😯
The moment he said what about what I want I shed a tear
"That's not a monster, that's just a baby"
Honestly
Any character who can make Tywin the not most interesting character in the room is a force to be reckoned with!
Strongly disagree Tywin is the most interesting character here!
Tywin would have never made the mistake he did with the Mountain. it was stupid and idiotic. far from being a perfect character, one of the most stupid yes.
I agree by far 👍😎 normally Tywin is ALWAYS the most powerful and interesting man in the room😎and to have Oberyn come in, and completely out charisma him, is absolutely fantastic 😘👍 There's a lot of people worried about Pedro Pascal's perfect as Reed Richards in the MCU, this is what the man brings to that table 😎a man that refuses to be overlooked, because of that CHARISMA 😉😎
In the fight scene I was so hype up for him winning, to the point I felt that something could go wrong here, and it did. I remembered staring blank into the ceiling in despair, felt like everything is so numb for minutes after the episode ended. GOT was truly at its peak back then.
Hey!......Your getting WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to into it!.........Don't worry, so did I. 😳
Gods the writing was strong then!
@@stephenjohn2131It was kind of terrible and made no sense, like it’s fantasy and all but a dude that big wearing that much armor would be all but immune to a spear. If the writing was any good or logical at all, the mountain would’ve just walked through the spear and smacked Oberyn on the head and killed him without getting injured that much of any at all.
@@kshamwhizzle6544 My man it doesn’t matter with a simple spear against someone like the mountain who in the books wears like two inch thick plate armor, doesn’t matter how tired he gets, he’s winning unless you got a modern firearm. Martin’s writing and worldbuilding is actually kind of bad. He’s only really good at writing characters.
@@jarlwilliam9932 L for lame L for you know what..
this vid made me realise he is an example of the exact same trope grrm used with Rob Stark, a competent likable character who in any other story would be the chosen one but loses because of one simple mistake. I think its George Martin satirizing the fantasy cliches we like. in any other show they would be Aragorn.
agree
Its a philosophy. People that are driven by vengence always end up in the wrong place. Think about robert baratheon. He got his vengence for the death lyanna stark but then he became king and lived a miserable life. Vengence doesnt give you peace.
I think there’s a large chance we see Arya have the same fate if she’s unable to let go of her list of names
@@ishmamyousuf2595 aragorn is a great character wdym?
@@Sid271 what do you mean? im talking game of thrones not lord of the rings
(Spoiler alert) because he's played by Pedro Pascal
It's kinda weird looking back, like where is Oberyn's small magical sidekick that forces Oberyn to become an unlikely father figure along the way? Is it Tyrion? Tyrion doesn't use the Force or have fungus-killing blood though lol
Are we supposed to laugh ?
@@Eric_lansherr It wasn't a joke
He’s joking, guys. The video goes into the other reasons 😒.
@@Eric_lansherr bro what are you saying😂😂 this isn’t a joke
Oberyn was the highpoint of season 4 for me, and his death was such a surprise
"Now you know why your nerdy friends were so depressed thirteen years ago" (G.R.R. Martin)
@𝘿𝙖𝙧𝙠 𝙘𝙝𝙤𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙨 😂😂😂😂 what a joke
@@marioguidotomasone1265 yeah, he was one of my most favorite characters. I knew he would die in duel. But martin gave us hope that he won. That was such a hard breaking moment.
@@runek100
Exactly.
Pascal made Oberyn seem so free and relaxed. Even has he was in the den of vipers that was King's Landing.
"I disagree. I've come to the perfect place. I want to bring those who have wronged me to justice, and all those who have wronged me are right here"
What a line. Chills
I was a teenager during the show… Oberyns death literally gave me nightmares. Yeah it was gruesome, but that wasn’t why it haunted me. I had become so enveloped in his character and his motives. How he delivered his lines and the morals of his character. His willingness to stand up to the “Golden Lion” made his death for me so absolutely heart crushing. I’d have the same nightmare of his head being crushed, followed by the screams of his woman and then me waking up. Truly a great and relatable character. I felt like I’d lost a friend. I literally mourned him, I was that hurt hurt over his death.
you so beautifully described how I felt, holly shit!!!! I was that hurt too!!
It was the red wedding all over again
You just reminded me of the good days of GoT and explained perfectly why I like Oberyn so much.
In those days of GoT, it had huge consequences if a character made a mistake and I felt excited and scared for Oberyn to take on the Mountain.
I still remember yelling at the screen "finish him" as Oberyn started circling the Mountain. I knew he wasn't safe until the Mountain was dead and then IT happened and Oberyn lost.
After that I just sat in silence trying to understand how everything had changed for Tyrion. The next day at school me and my friends talked about it all day.
Pedro Pascal put in a great performance and GoT really was at it's peak.
To this day the only part of GOT that really irritated me was Cersei blowing up the sept of Baelor, the holiest site in the realm and not only kinslaying but also murdering the tyrells. And suffered no consequences, of course Tommen but I’m talking about outside forces against her or the commonfolk just literally anything.
@@jaybe9627 really that's the only one ? I think starting from season 5 there is a ton I don't like, but makes sense since they started deviating from the books like in the example you mention.
@@alexgarcia2k I mean it's not the only one but it was the first no turning back one I really remember, so it hit the hardest. By season 7 I was pretty much entirely checked out and only watching out of curiosity and because it was a series I watched along with friends. Season 4 was the last really good season imo.
GRRM plays with Stereotypes and pre-conceived expectations so well, for example Oberyn is like an adventurous bisexual playboy that likes partying, but he has this ultimate and pure goal of avenging his sister, he's an insanely skilled warrior but he prefers to plan things out and murder people with poison rather than just overpower them, it's like he melds all kinds of different characters into one.
Hence why his nickname "THE RED VIPER" is well-deserved. The show frames Tywin as merely taking a shit when he dies, but it's way more sinister in the books.... the implication being that Oberyn was poisoning him.
@@MrJordwalk GRRM's writing do be dripping in symbolism
Is he bisexual lol? I only read the books but that's the second time i missed a character's sexuality in ASOIAF if he is.
@@MrJordwalk huh? I have read the book but I didn't notice it, what gives you this idea that he was poisoned?
@@runek100
It's only hinted that Tywin may have been poisoned, because his corpse started smelling really, really bad only days after he died, too quickly for it to be natural rot and people often fainted from the unnatural smell when they came to pay their respects.
Tywin did not show any symptoms of poisoning while he was still alive, but this is potentially owed to the fact that the poison was designed to work very, very slow, in order to erase any suspicion.
I love how Oberyn is such a good fighter that he has actually won the fight against The Mountain, and only lost because he didn't finish him when he should have
He is really my favorite character in all of Game of Thrones, you can’t forget him. He’s great.
Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken. Pedro Pascal's Oberyn is the highlight of the show, big agree! Excellent analysis.
It was really cool having a character show up so far into the show, that seemed so morally good. Most of the characters in the show were enemies to our main protagonist, so it was nice having this force of nature enter out of nowhere and attempt to fight against the lannisters.
I feel like there were plenty of allies but they all get their heads smushed in
I loved his character, but I don't think he was a good guy.
@@runek100why not?
@@a-c6586 because he was consumed by revenge. He was ruthless, using poison to slowly kill his enemies. And he enjoyed watching it. He was also very narcissistic. Like he is complex character and even with right reasons for revenge, he was not a good guy. Although he might seem like one, when you compare it to most of the characters in books. But he was definitely one of my most favorite characters.
How does Oberyn hating the Lannisters paint him more like a villain? By that time, we already hate most of the Lannisters and seeing Oberyn, a new character, willingly and openly stand up to them wins us over. So him being a good guy isn't really a twist.
He is definitely not a good guy tho
@@runek100 How so?
It's not that we think he's a villain necessarily, just that we suspect his agenda to be the same as most of the characters in King's landing, a player in the Game of Thrones. His agenda at first seems rather vulture like, to come and twist things up because there's clearly a power struggle in Westeros. In some respects, he is a player of the game, but the twist is that he is not after power, he's after vengeance. That's what makes him more sincere and likeable as a character amongst the backstabbers and schemers in King's Landing. He never lies or schemes and is open about his nature, and you sense he is hiding something, but he's actually not. Bare in mind we see Varys and Shae testify against Tyrion before that, all of Tyrion's allies turn against him, and in comes Oberyn with a goal other than self preservation or power, and that's the twist.
@@TakumProti There are theories he started the Brave Companions.
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 Yeah, THEORIES.
He's definitely a phenomenal character
I think there's no doubt that George RR Martin can write some of the most well written characters of all time
@jabron destoroyah congrats, you can read!
@@Inebriated_Goat What are you referring to?
@𝘿𝙖𝙧𝙠 𝙘𝙝𝙤𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙨 he is good looking BUT he sucks in dialogue delivery.
@𝘿𝙖𝙧𝙠 𝙘𝙝𝙤𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙨 yes but he fumbles when he talks...he doesn't talk like a king (exhibit : Jodha Akbar)....that's not a role fit for him in the way he talks. Someone like ranveer singh is a better fit.
whoa calm down
They did him very well from the book. In the book he is mostly a man of legend. Many of the KL high borns have only heard of him and his deeds and adventures. That he is a warrior to fear and admire, that he is willful and courageous but also very proud and dangerous. I like that the show gave him a lot of minutes to expand on him.
The only thing I would have done in the show (and it’s not even necessary) is just talk more about his legend, his sellsword days, his daughters, his duels and his knowledge of poison but even without that, he was brilliantly adapted.
Hell, the whole rivalry with House Tyrell. The fact that he jousted vs Willas Tyrell (Pace’s oldest son, brother of Loras & Margaery) and he beat him and crippled him in the joust BUT became good friends afterwards and they wrote each other very frequently
Could've added that to the 'history and lore' extras!
@@roddo1955 exactly. One of my favorite scenes of his is his scene with Cercei because it washes away the warrior in him and shows us another side of who he is: a loving father
@@ferrm1992 The one where she's telling him about Myrcella and the boat she bought her? I see!
I personally think that when he looked at her, shedding tears for her daughter he was like:"you will do ANYTHING to excert at least a bit of control once it's taken away from you. You want me to kill your brother so bad...you are willing to throw your daughters love in as payment." I think it was at that moment that Oberyn knew that the Lannisters for all their airs and graces, are rotten to the core.
@@roddo1955 exactly, he assures her that “we don’t hurt little girls in Dorne” and that Myrcella seems content. And Cercei tells him there’s nothing we [humans] can do to protect the ones we love, no matter power status, wealth et al
Oberyn Martell was one of my favourite characters from the show. When I started reading the books, he became even more so. One of the most interesting things for me was reading the books and discovering the true purpose of Oberyn's visit to Kings Landing. Yes, he wanted revenge for his sister (he says that repeatedly), but he also seemed to be trying to provoke the Lannisters into harming him(?)so that it could give Dorne justification for starting a war with them. He perhaps was even trying to sow division between them by supporting Tyrion and being his champion (at the time probably thinking that he was going to win the fight), knowing that that would provoke Tywin and Cersei as he already knew that they didn't like Tyrion very much. If Oberyn had won the fight, he might've succeeded in that goal. He was definitely in Kings Landing for some specific purpose like that, otherwise why would his brother, Doran, send him of all people on his behalf? Doran knew Oberyn's temperament and knew what he was doing when he sent him there. Doran is the grass that hides the viper (Oberyn) before he strikes. The fact that Tywin was shitting himself before he died was probably because of Oberyn, and the mere subtlty of that kind of conspiracy tells me that Doran was involved as well.
I don't know. This comment was supposed to be about how much I miss that character, but now here we are, discussing conspiracies. I miss all of those characters actually, and that world. George needs to finish those books and give us the ending that we all deserve dammit!
Pedro basically came into a show with a full spectrum of well-established characters played by outstanding actors... then proceeded to knock it out of the park. It's a pretty mean feat to join the cast of one of the most popular shows of all time, at it's height no less, and still manage to stand out and have such a massive impact on the show.
He was so excellent, it's a damn crying shame what they did to the rest of the Dornish characters once he was gone.
I literally cried when I first saw what they did to the Sand Snakes, such a waste 😢
What are you talking about?
They never made any more show beyond the books.
Ugh they butchered the Dorne storyline so badly. Season 5 was truly the beginning of the end.
My poor beloved Ellaria Sand, the only character who has a monologue about the benefits of mercy vs revenge was turned in a vengeful character!
Jacked Dorne up, completely. Then had the nerve to chose a bastard to take over as liege lord? Yeah, I know they don't disdain bastards in Dorne, but to have one take over a leige lord?? From 100s of years of successful Martell rule?? Ridiculous! Not to mention they left out Arriana, Dorran's eldest child and heir to the Dorne crown.
I didn't even realize that Season 4 happened before Narcos, I couldn't believe it at first. Don't get me wrong, I like Narcos and Pedro Pascal in it, but Oberyn feels like such a perfect and complete performance, I'm astonished it's his first major role.
I also wanted to say that i love how he is described as a legendary fighter through some of his scenes,it adds a lot of charisma to his character even before his fight
The characters who were only around for one season were easily the strongest: Oberyn, Ned, Bobby B, Drogo. Oberyn was actually a breath of fresh air for many reasons, but especially because we hadn't had a similar character since Ned, Bobby B, and Drogo all died in season 1. Honestly, once Oberyn died in season 4, other single-season characters never held a candle to these four.
@𝘿𝙖𝙧𝙠 𝙘𝙝𝙤𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙨 Please stop spamming the same pointless comment everywhere.
Oberyn has always been in my top 3 favourite GoT characters. Like you say, from the moment he appears, and for the entire season, he's just 10/10. I could be wrong but I think I recall Pedro Pascal saying his first scene that he filmed was the monologue!
You remember correctly. The first scene he shot was the one in the dungeon with Peter and he was so nervous because it was Peter Dinklage.
Oberyn Martell has always been my favorite Game of Thrones character, ever since season 4. I wish we got more of him :,(
You're right this character and this performance doesn't get talked about enough. Even within the GOT Zeitgeist.
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer...unless you're Oberyn, his overconfidence got him done and dead quick af.
For a character that only appeared for a single season, he's absolutely phenomenal, a wonderful study from a writing perspective on how to introduce and progress a character and making it awesome even with limited screen-time. GOT has a lot of limited-time characters that still manage to steal the spotlight whenever they appear - Olenna being one of them, for example.
4:00 Also the fact that he is being this sincere and empathetic towards a Lannister, it shows his great character and maturity/wisdom
I still think the conversation Oberyn and Tyrion had in the cell was one of the best scenes in the show, its my personal favorite. Tyrion is one of my favorite characters and it felt good to see a character empathize with him along with Oberyn having his own motive to get involved in the situation.
I sobbed, SOBBED, when he agreed to be Tyrion's champion. I liked him and found him a compelling character before but that moment sealed my forever love of that character (and Pedro's performance). The one GOT character death I still haven't gotten over.
Oberyn is my favourite character ever period. Not just from GOT but all time. It felt weird to me for a long time because he didn't have as much screentime as other amazing characters, but there just never has been a character i've been more obsessed with. The acting, the writing, the story... Its all fantastic
the scene with tyrion in the dungeon is among the best in the series
we absolutely need more character analysis videos with hades music, it fits so perfectly
*I always forget how simply amazing/emotional that Oberyn & Tyrion scene was.🙏🏼😭*
12:13 the point you made about actor's lack of charisma in the character he portrays is 1000% how I felt about Daario Naharis. Ed Skrein (the original Daario from season 2) completely dominated his role, while I felt very meh about Michiel Huisman (the replacement from season 3 onwards) portrayal.
Thank you a lot for your work on this character, please i beg you keep making Game of Thrones videos. They're always really interesting and funny, i really like your ways of reflexion and i think people on RUclips needs this kind of content !
I'll never permanently leave Game of Thrones. Especially since HBO is going to try and adapt everything George has written relating to ASOIAF. So there will always be more content to make videos on in the future. But for these in between years since they take a long time to make seasons, I may focus more on other shows/movies.
@@SupercutsDelight Of course, let's focus on what inspire you to write for ! Even if my message sounded like it, i didn't meant that i only watch your GOT videos, i just really like your work anyway ! c:
I remember the day I watched that episode, after THAT scene I just sat there for 10 minutes and then met with a friend in a middle of the night just to sit there in silence and share that feeling lol Oberyn was one of my favorite characters and I’m so happy for Pedro Pascal now ❤ I remember having a screensaver of someone’s art of Oberyn and his paramour (I forgot her name) kissing with dead Mountain in the background 😍
Tyrion: well.....sooner or later Cersei gets what she wants
Oberyn: and what about what I WANT?....Justice....for Elia
that was one of the most emotional lines I've ever heard
I think you did a wonderful job on this video. Don't worry about feeling like you were just rambling on. It was very well executed. I was genuinely surprised to see Oberyn's face when I went to my RUclips homepage, but I am very glad you made this video. Keep them coming Supercuts. PS I am not tired of GOT videos. They always thoroughly entertain me personally.
Great video! I love Oberyn, he's one of my favourite characters from the show. I think he's a really good example of positive masculinity actually, demonstrating you can still be very manly while also being sensual, passionate and compassionate.
Yes absolutely! Also that he is tender towards his paramour without being condescending
It doesn't need much, just being Pedro Pascal in the role is enough
The delivery on "That's...just a baby" carried more genuine empathy than Tyrion had gotten from anyone else before it since
wonderful video, thank you! Oberyn is absolutely one of the most compelling characters in the story, and Pedro Pascal played him brilliantly.🌟
His monologue with Tyrion, one of the best of the series. Id say Tywins opening scene with Jaime, and some of The "Hounds" scenes are some of the best.
Fabulous, I've felt this way since first watching him. Was struck by this amazing character portrayal. Great job in putting it into words so eloquently. Go Pedro!
That little "better roles" detail at 0:32 made laugh so much😂
"I will be your champion."
* cries *
Tywin, terion, oberyn, varys, ned. All impressed me so much as characters
Oberyn is probably my favorite TV series character of all time, and Pedro definitely nailed this role with such a short screen time.
When I reflect, I think he was my favourite character in the entire show.
Your videos keep me engaged with GoT especially since you call out good chars and scenes and the bad ones too. As long as you have ideas, keep at it my man
I STILL hurt over Oberyn all these years later
Disliking the Lannisters does not make the audience think the character is a villain. Quite the opposite.
13:50 my favorite is when Cersei tells Oberyn that it's a shame Doran didn't show up for the wedding. Oberyn says nothing, just gives a sneer, a smirk, and a shrug. wow.
Thank you for still making videos with such quality about ASOIAF, you made me friend again with the show
EDIT: Please do not stop making GoT videos there are so great and I think we are a lot to still appreciate them, you give this universe what it deserves
Even in the books, Oberyn was a damn highlight, and I really thought he was supposed to last more than a single book.
Thank you Martin.
FWIW, I still love seeing new takes and new info about GoT. The show ended... badly... and I know the way the ending was handled caused it to drop off the radar for a lot of people, but I still rewatch often and I love the world they created.
Totally in accordance with u, oberyn is a masterpiece of character in all senses. Love it 🥰🥰🥰
Oberyn is such a great character... thank you for the deep dive!
Sorry to interrupt. I know I'm late. I'm currently at 7:24, and within the last two minutes, you spoke to my soul. That is all. Please continue.
Fantastic video!
Please make more of these acting/character analysis videos ❤
Great video! Oberyn was my 2nd favorite character after Dany. You really did a great job of showcasing what made him such a great character in such a short time.
Oberyn added the necessary spice to the season. What a well-crafted role!
Bro made a perfect video. About the perfect character. Using the perfect background track. Absolutely adore Hades.
Oberyn is definitely one of the reasons S4 is my fav season of GoT
Totally agree. He is my all time favorite character on the show. The fight with the mountain is legendary and still shocking no matter how many times I watch it.
Just the video I was looking for. Oberyn and Pedro were perfect, as was your analysis.
I was an Ice and Fire reader so when Oberyn was introduced on the show he didn’t look how I pictured him in my head. But that feeling ended pretty quickly. Pedro Pascal owned the character. He was the quintessential “renaissance man.” The guy men want to be like and women want to be with.
And who men want to be with and women want to be like, lmao. All his daughters want to be like him, but they fail.
Oberyn was phenomenal!!! I was so shocked when then killed him off in that way😂😂that still is insane to me. But that’s what game of thrones did best. Shock the audience better than any show I’ve seen.
He was one of the best written characters without a doubt.
Supercuts talking about Pedro Pascal like my mom talks about my high school achievements 😂
so I just finished affc and I can’t believe how absolutely AMAZING Oberyn is.
The show paints him as a likable menace, where the books make him feel like a character that should 100% be a villain. Which he is, he’s just a big villain towards the Lannisters instead of the p.o.v. character in king’s landing, Tyrion. It’s beautiful how George made an extremely grey character by pinning a villainous character vs a villainous group. Love my man and Pedro really made that role 10/10
He’s literally one of maybe 3 legitimately good natured characters in the show.
Your GoT videos are my absolute favourites and 9 times out of 10 you're articulating what I've been thinking, which is super cathartic to listen to as a GoT nerd. I personally would be disappointed if you stopped making these videos to focus on other topics. I get so excited when I see a new GoT video. When I saw this one I almost choked on my pie.
Love Pedro. Sure, he's being oversaturated on the screen, but hit fame late in life. Can't hate on him for capitalizing while there is time.
So great in TLoU as well
He’s in 2 shows right now, i wouldn’t call it over saturated lol
+ he deserves it
Oberyn's death is very shocking, but Bronn interestingly predicted it almost exactly. When Bronn was explaining to Tyrion why he did not want to fight the Mountain, he acknowledged that he, as a smaller nimbler man, could possibly "dance" around the Mountain, slowly wearing him down, and could win by doing so. This is of course how Oberyn defeated the mountain, literally "dancing" around him with acrobatics and quick maneuvering. However, Bronn stated that one minor slip-up would allow the immensely dangerous Mountain to kill him. Oberyn stepped in the wrong spot, and looked away at just the wrong moment; one minor slip-up.
I did not See the Video yet but your so right !
I loved this guy so much, and was cheering for him the most I have in that excellent series, and his death was by far the saddest (although Robb’s was heart wrenching.
Absolutely stellar minor character...explosive entrance, understandable motivation, prior rapport with crucial characters, commanding presence in all scenes, relevance to many subplots, and exit highly impactful to the rest of the story...rare example of side characters that don't exist just for fluff
I love it how you are never biased to your favourite characters
I remember watching him fight the mountain, even though I had read the books twice at that point, Pedro was so good I thought for a moment he might win this, he doesn't have to die, the show might be different..then BAM splat there goes his head. It's such a disgrace with what the show did to the Dorne plot. it's like he died for nothing.
I remember reading the trial by combat and being utterly shocked, but watching it was such an experience, because even though i knew, it still was so well built and executed that it still shocked me. Same with the Red Wedding. When Game of Thrones was good, it was amazing.
His death was heart breaking. Dorne as I understood it is analogous to Al-Andalus IRL. His mannerisms, bad boy vibe, disobedience and esthetics are all reminiscent of Alfa energy in Morrorco and Southern Spain, and Portugal to a lesser extent. I found myself rooting for him but the moment he walked into that arena I knew it was gonna be the end.
We didn’t hide out disappointment. I said to cerci… that’s not a monster… That’s just a BABY “ chills
they should explore him 3 Seasons before killing him. That would made his death even more heartbreaking
I just found you about a week ago bc of your GoT content, wish the shows stayed good :(
I would definetly love to see more GoT content, Im sad S8 killed all the hype around it, cause being in the community disccusing episodes characters theories and future plots was one of the must fun times ever in my life.
Oberyn was so good that I, who had read the books in high school in the mid-00's watched was what then the greatest show on earth in a room filled with people that did not know the twist was coming.... During the fight, I was SO HYPED by how good it all was, that I let myself join in the cult-like mentality that took over, and I found myself utterly engaged with the prospect of his ASSURED VICTORY even when I knew rationally that the writers would never rewrite what is one of the greatest plot points in the books...
So, basically, a character so well-written, so well-adapted and brilliantly portrayed by their performer, that it made someone who had by then engaged actively and quite feverishly with this story for the past TEN YEARS or so lose their mind completely from the twist... The emotional resonance the character produced was great enough so as to blind me from the obvious truth that was about to hit, and I was deeply shocked by the "twist" that was not in fact a twist at all. I remember that watching the show during S3 with the same group of friends who had never read the books, during the Red Wedding I was no longer focused on the screen, but on my friends' reactions. But, during Viper x Mountain, I was fully, utterly invested.
10/10.... DnD are shitty writers, but they were very good with adapting the material while they had it, or at least the parts which they chose to adapt. Their choices of what to leave out were not committed or roadmapped, which is why the show suffered so much. The first four seasons give us such a rich tapestry, that is entirely ignored/simplified by latter seasons - even if you didn't read the books there is no ignoring that. They JUST KINDA FORGOT. The "just kinda forgot" moment is so emblematic because I have it in my heart of hearts that you can actually see it in his face, real-time, that he JUST KINDA REMEMBERED that it makes no fucking sense at all just as the question is being answered. The tragedy of how this 'greatest show on earth' became the greatest shitshow of all time at least gave us neverending RUclips commentary content, so there's that...
GRRM will never finish the books in this life, so I guess thanks for the memories everyone - and Pedro Pascal is definitely on top of that list, along with Charles Dance. They had the benefit of being "written off the show" by the original author, so they left when their arcs were properly and logically concluded within the context of this rich tapestry of a story that we had until S4. Rest in pieces my lovely Prince.
The scene where the brothel guy tells oberyn that “everyone has a preference” (when it comes to sexuality) and he responds with “then everyone is missing half the world’s pleasure” is such a beautiful and nuanced exploration of sexuality and attraction. I really love this show for treating lgbtq characters with care; depicting the harsh realities and judgement we face (with Loras) while also showing through Oberyn that people like us can still find joy and pleasure even in such a cruel world, without ever feeling unrealistic. It’s super nice and refreshing to see, and we always love to see a pansexual pedro pascal
Supercuts just made this video to confess his love for Pedro Pascal and i'm here for it.
You sure you're not just simping for his jawline? Because I am😏
Also the scene with Oberyn and Tyrion in the cell was the first Pedro Pascal shot for the season.