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Is The Crazy Cheap New Honda Navi The BEST Option Under $2K - Or Should You Get A Used Grom Instead?
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
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I am SERIOUSLY considering this as my FIRST 2-wheel purchase. I run so many errands that are 5 miles or less. Even my drive to work is less than 4 miles.
Try a Onewheel!🙌
Do it.
It would be perfect for you
It will be the best decision you ever make. But I must warn you, it is addicting.
@@Tangeffect I love my Onewheel.. I’m getting this too lmao
I am absolutely loving the "everyman" bikes Honda is coming out with lately. They gained huge marketshare years ago by marketing to non-moto riders, I think they're poised to do it again.
Modernized fat cat would be awesome
I've never had amotorcycle, got my MSF out of the way, now Honda has made me a new Biker.
The monkey is more monkey than this thing that's crazy.
They sucks. They cannot see the real hole in market, which is using super cub (Jawa) like transmition on bike with 15 HP. That would be the best ,,scooter,,. You do not need motorcycle licence for that in many countries, just licence for car. Now you can buy 15 HP PCX and other automatic scooters, but as I owned super cub, I must say, it is much more fun, while semi-automatic transmition still keeps you from crashes, I did had to break once due to taxidriver did turned infrom of me, when he should wait. I had 4th gear, when I full stop. No problem.
Honda has been doing this market strategy since day one. The term “you meet the nicest people on a Honda” goes back to the 60’s and 70’s with the CB and Cub models.
when Honda first announced this i thought "what's the point of an automatic Grom??" but for $2k its a steal. Groms never depreciate around me
Same here, a used Grom is $3,000 here.
Groms here are 1500 bucks. I almost bought one for 500 few months ago
They really don't
@@MrBlaze256 where, around me the lowest is $3k
@@MrBlaze256 where at?
After looking at the Grom for my commute to and from work 16 miles all together, I think the Navi is the choice. No clutch, no worries, I can always upgrade to to a Grom after learning on the Navi. These gas prices are quickly changing my mind.
Just get a Grom. I own one and you only pay $5 for a full tank a gas like once a week or once every few days.
@@Speedpunk650 I ended up getting a Kawasaki z125. Best financial decision I made when gas prices started surging. I’m ready to upgrade to a Ninja 650 😉
Have you been hit yet on you're little scooter yet ?
@@vicaras1 nope.
thats what I plan on doing. Would be my first bike ever so. I dont want the hassles of everything else just yet.
Okay, this is actually incredibly tempting over a Grom. I'd been considering a engine swapped ruckus as a runabout toy, but this is cutting out some of that work AND it actually has storage. I'm positive this little scooter is going to get a strong aftermarket scene, especially with that nice price. Hopefully though, you can decouple the brakes.
I see two cables going to the front brake. Maybe detaching one of them would do that? I highly doubt that the coupling is electronic.
Get a used Grom
Same price
More power
Real bike
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 the fact that you’re calling a grom a real bike 😂😂
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 so the groms a real bike but it’s nearly identical little bro isn’t?
@@theadventuresoftaco7306 "same price" a grom is nearly 3 times the price...
Got mind preordered! Coming from riding 50cc mopeds this is exactly what I have been looking for. Will give me enough power that I don’t feel like I’m gonna die on 45 mph roads
its the dealers. honda has no control what the dealer marks up will b. seen them as high as 4100.
I have:
A: problems with my leg that prevent me from shifting easily
B: A desire to get an around-town bike to save money on gas.
This is perfect for me.
It's crazy fun.
B: Than buy Honda Pcx 125cc
@@2parasha pcx is to much bike. This or a Honda ruckus, or both ;)
I also have a bad leg, one with 2 rods in It that makes shifting less then ideal.
I ended up buying a Navi as a third bike. Truthfully, I enjoy it more than my bigger bikes for short trips. It's perfect for running to the grocery store or any where under five to seven miles. I've been keeping track of the fuel mileage. So far, the worst tank of gas was 88 Miles per Gallon and the best tank so far has been 105 Miles per Gallon. It will be interesting to see what the Honda dealer charges for the first service at 1,000 km, which I am fast approaching.
how's it going?
So, what’s your experience with the service charge on the Honda Navi? If you don’t mind, do you still reside in Texas?
mad respect. this thing is cheap and has KICK START, that is un heard of in modern bikes.
Don't forget the drum brakes, carburetor, plus side stand and center stand. 🙂👍
I even traded a 2015 Yamahazuma 125 scoot for a 2019 Honda Supercub - the zuma had 4,000 more miles, but he wanted to trade - a few couple years ago. The supecub battery died after frequent key fob baterry drains. My sloping driveway or parking lots are dnough to push start a geared 125.
Best review. I'm 72. I've logged over 50,000 miles on scooters. I'm definitely selling my Piaggio Beverly touring scooter and buying a much easier to handle Navi . My other scooter is a Yamaha BWS/Zuma scooter.
I have a Piaggio BV200
Really can't believe you want to sell your BV.. cuz I want the new bv400 but I'll settle for the 350
Interesting, I'll for sure share the Navi with my dad. I'm only home 1 week per month. Piaggio was once & kind of is what I always wanted but did a favor for a friend & got stuck with a Forza until it got stolen.
Awesome review Alex. You covered it all. Even where it was made. For all you new riders out there, don’t complain about having to take a rider course. If you want to ride bad enough, that’s the price you pay to play! Best thing about Honda scooters is they take speed mods real well. Without any aftermarket parts I could get you 3-5 mph (top end speed) on a torque converter tweak. Carb is also a good thing too. Not many mods for FI. Should not be an issue to de-link the brakes at the pedal. Very cool bike/scooter! Honda knows how to get people riding!
Due to health issues I have to have an automatic bike. However the safety course here won't allow you to use your own bike. Whats a guy to do
The USA version is a little different from the version sold in my country, that's because both brake levers are on the handle bar. In my country the Navi is cheaper, it's priced about $1500, the storage box and side stand are optional. We also have the chinese copy, it's called Serpento Nova, it's even cheaper ($1280), but the storage box and side stand are included, the Nova doesn't have fuel gauge, just an indicator light for low fuel, however it has a front disc brake and alloy wheels. I think it's a good bike for beginners and for moving around city
what country are you from bro?
@@abhifn___ I'm from El Salvador
@@Jorge-Tamacas thats cool im from india
As long as dealers don't gouge customers they will sell a ton. New riders need to start somewhere.
They WILL gouge customers with adm mark up fees.
Will be 2750 out the door i bet
$2700 out the door is not cheap. I want 5 minimoto to replace my Forza but will get 3 of these or at least 2. I would want the 3rd one to be have dual sport tires or I'll get a Trail 125 for non paved roads in Mexico.
Just called honda miami and 3400$ 😂 howwww??
@@gltsry8627 GREEDY BASTARDS. that's how.
Price is good but here in Florida you would have to take a two day safety course ($500) to get a license (over 50 cc). That course is thanks to Harley Davidson. They negotiated the exclusive rights to the safety course for the first 3 years then lobbied and pushed for the law. Another reason I hate HD.
Same Here in NY you would need your motorcycle license.
Instead of making people learn how to ride. They should teach drivers how to not kill motorcyclist on the road.
$500? It was $200 for me in holiday FL.
I guess things have changed in FL since I lived there, but you used to be able to take "Rider's Edge" (harley course) or the MSF put on in many cities we had the MSF at DBCC in the parking lot.
@@GregHuston For the first 3 years (as stated above) it was exclusively HD. After that time period others have been allowed to give the course.
I keep coming back to this bike. It really checks a lot of boxes as a daily ride. Can’t wait to see one. Thanks for a great test ride report!
This thing looks fun. But for my needs,just riding around the neighborhood,my ebike serves its purpose well.If i were commuting around town though I would pick this over a grom because of the price and being automatic, and also being able to hit 50mph is great for those 45mph speed limits where a 50cc just doesn’t feels safe out there on the roads.
Honda dealer wanted 5k for a used Grom. Only 300 miles. Another dealer wanted $4200 for 2018 with 300 miles. I took the second one. After registration and tax it came to $5k. I like it. This Navi is a steal.
im from india 🇮🇳and I own this thing its my second bike ..its a very good moped easy to ride, very good mileage low maintenance and its a been 4 years since im riding this thing..yeah im pretty happy with my purchase
How is the mileage? buddy
same here i got the black one its been 4 years and i love it
@@HarishBabuM around 40 to 45kpl
@@whatever45892 ❤️😍
Love the Ryobi green.
I was looking at a battery operated bicycle but when I heard about this I was blown away. I liked the trail 125 (especially the big back area for a milk crate for groceries). I'm disappointed so far that no other after market companies have come up with a bigger than "Honda" back area to hold "just" a little more groceries. If someone comes out with a bigger area "trunk" area...I will most likely get this!!
I'm impressed. For the first time ever the U.S. actually gets extra features like the storage box and the side kickstand that international doesn't get. I don't want this as my next bike but it would be cool as hell to mod one out to death though I've already done that with a Z125 so I'm not sure if it even makes sense to do really... though I love the more Tron-like look of this thing! Also, that blue one with the Kicker would be badass!
Who buys a z125 when u have a grom as an option honda will always be better and more reliable
@@mannygonzalez2868 No lol
I first looked at that storage box where a engine would go and thought "$2000 Honda E-Grom!"🤣
Great video man! And just an fyi, I think they linked the brakes for two reasons. One the parking brake duh, and the fact that the CVT does not like to come to halting stops or skids due to its nature of how it gradually speeds/slows. Unlike a clutch which you can disengage and re-engage at speed.
My notes for Honda, parking brake is useless since it has a center stand which works perfectly fine on any steepness of hill because you don’t face a scooter/motorcycle directly up or downhill. Take my word, I do food delivery via (49cc) moped in Honolulu!
the parking brake is so you don't start it full throttle and it rips off without you
@@aeroflopper why would full throttle occur? Your assuming the rider makes that mistake? That’s like assuming cars have parking brakes for the same reason?
The linked brakes on the Navi exist for only one reason: it was designed and made in India based on the the Honda Activa scooter. As per Indian government regulations, any motorcycle/scooter over 200cc should have ABS. Vehicles with smaller engines need to have linked brakes.
$1,807 sounds good but all the dealers near me will be charging $2800-$3000 after fees. Far too much for this bike.
Same goes for the grom. Cant leave the dealer for under 4500 and at that price I'll buy a full size bike from a few years ago
Them SOB’s!!!
Went to a dealership in Stockbridge Georgia today and after all the BS they added in the price came to $3,595😂
Yeah i pass at that price too bad
This is actually pretty neat because in my jurisdiction the cheap insurance bracket is 49cc-109cc. The Grom is in the 110cc-400cc bracket and costs much more for insurance - you'd be better off getting a Ninja
Cost me 100 a year for insurance no matter the size. progressive.
@@MrBlaze256 same for me, its expensive if you put collision incase you wreck it and want the insurance to fix it for you
The gram cost a lot for insurance because it's easy to steal.. just pick it up and run. Same with my monkey.
Crazy cuz my ninja 400 is 80 for the month and my grom is 6
Insurance prices very from state to state
A cool looking $1800 scooter is a no brainer. Having a carb just means it will live forever, as long as you learn some basic mechanic skills. And a kickstarter? Hell yea. Modern bikes are too complicated and too expensive.
Good point, home maintenance looks easy on this honda Navi,great informative video.
I have a car but the current sky high cost of gas means I am tempted to buy this for the short 5 mile commute to work! My car hasn't even warmed up fully when I arrive so it doesn't get optimal fuel economy until about 12 to 15 miles on a journey.
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This is a good option for people who are unable to shift due to a surgery.
Thanks Honda You made my day!👍🏼
My wife and I have been looking for a mini-moto to putt putt around town, take down to the beach and grab brunch on, etc. You have officially sold this bike to me. All the questions I had about this thing, you've answered in detail and in a well shot/put together video, thank you! Keep up the great work and ride safe brotha!
My fiance got me this bike as a gift. I am 5'4" and able to ride comfortably! It was my first time riding a scooter/bike before and after riding a bit on the road with him I got the hang of it. Now all I want to do is go out and ride! Lol so much fun!!
Love that !
Love the review. More in depth than any other review i've seen And covers a whole lot of the Navi's neat party tricks and hidden features. Outstanding work man.
For $1,800 it's a great deal. I definitely gotta pick up one or two of these.
Buys it for $1,800... spends $3,500 in mods lol bet
You won’t find one even close to 2K. Gonna b 3300 OTD
@@grooviefan It was 3300 OTD for my Z125 so yeah, that's not happening lol
AWESOME LIL'BIKE ! Son got a neglected Grom at a garage sale and ordered a Navi for his wife that has a January delivery date. First batch of Navis sold in Oklahoma... He's talking about a "Wrap" custom 'paint job' on both bikes. Like the Vance and Hines custom in your video. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE
imagine this style body on some of the bigger scooters....
Really cool and informative video!
I have been debating getting a motorcycle for about 7 years now. It's a cycle I keep going through in my head where I think about how cool/fun it would be to put a rack on it and get groceries, or have someone on the back to go sight seeing with. There's something so silly yet admirable about the image of loading a motorcycle up with groceries. Then I think about it practically and realize how if that'll be all it gets used for, I'd be better off putting that money towards upgrading my car. Or I just rent a motorcycle for a day to get the feeling out of my system. I haven't done that yet though because I don't want to ruin the fantasy by learning how the reality doesn't come close.
Even so, that doesn't stop me from running through this motorcycle fantasy several times a year for weeks on end. I just love the machines and concept. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk.
Do it, you only live once. If you find out it's not for you, sell it. At least you won't have any regrets. If you end up loving riding, it will open up a whole new world for you.
Do it.
I had the same type of fantasy. Ended up getting a Grom that was on sale, they delivered it to me since I didn't have my license. Ended up having it for 3 years, sold it for almost what I paid. Bought two scooters as well, kept one which I still have. Next moto will be a little bigger than the Grom but not much bigger since I'm a short person. Probably a BMW 310R or similar.
Just get one! I got a Honda cb300r at 40 and I can't believe I waited so long! For the price u can't have more fun, sure it's dangerous but the feeling of being on the bike flying down the oceanside after a long hot day is incredible!
@@danasymosky5609 ya what's 2 grand when u can recoup like 1600 again
Maybe Honda heard enough complaints from us Cub owners about not having a side stand they decided on putting it on the Navi.
As much as i would love to use one of these, I feel that my size (6'3 - 300lbs) would not be ideal for this machine...
QUIT EATING PEOPLE !!!
It’s actually illegal to eat people.
@@jbean530
Only if you get caught.
I feel the same. 6'4 260 lbs lol
@@bighof2581
Yes, it appears even Jack Reacher would not look cool riding one of these…probably a proportion thing.
I live in SoCal and have done the Balboa ferry maybe 500 times or more, mostly riding my beach cruiser bicycle. It is iconic. But now with $6+ gas, and having grown up riding motorcycles, that little Navi looks like pure fun for just scooting around.
Linked breaks is a throwback to the original formula that made the Cub the best selling vehicle on earth, the idea is that you can do everything with one hand and it is easier to ride. Having a small bike with a big locking storage on it makes it very practical as a city and suburban commuting bike and the CVT makes stop and go around town easy. Also it's cheaper than a Ruckus.
In Thailand we have a lot of choice for motorbikes since they are a staple of life here. The popular ones at the moment are Honda PCX and Yamaha NMAX/XMAX, both of which are belt driven automatics, 125-155CC bikes in a step over style rather than scooter. They come in under 3k USD. In comparison to the Grom and Navi these are more of a full sized bike and handle the roads just fine (up to 80mph), good for both men and woman. The Honda Grom I believe is called the Honda MSX here and goes for 2k USD.
Would honestly love to see this in Thailand but no word at all.
I own a 78' cb400 hondamatic road bike. It's fun. It will fly. But even having had 8 other manual clutch bikes, I LOVE the hondamatic, and my wife is learning to ride with it.
They absolutely should come back with it.
Yep.
Great system.
Thanks for taking the seat off and going over the bike. You’ve been the only one that showed the whole bike. I was thinking about a Ruckus but kept hearing how miserable weak they are. Think I’ll check the Honda dealership .
I would say it's a great bike for someone who's scared shittless. It would give them a chance to relax add appreciate the freedom. The navvies going to be like a 250 rebel. It's going to have 20 owners. And 2000 miles. Great idea with great potential...
Haha. Yeah. Like me slamming the bike down on my knee in my beginner class. I couldn’t move and I thought I broke my leg or tore me knee. My knee pads saved me. So, I need something light that won’t pin me if it falls on me. Especially since I’m single and female and ride by myself. Kind of want the clutch and brake for practice, but it’s a start. Even racers start somewhere. Haha.
Never let anyone ride your bike, they'll drop it for sure & won't want to pay anything out.
What are you talking about scared? Dude I’m going to buy this just to screw around on, go camping with, and stick on the back of the travel trailer. I’ve got 3 other bikes to ride on the street. This thing is rad.
@@jbean530 I'm with you. And I hope you are still riding.
My wife has said she would love to have a motorcycle, and if they ever had an automatic then she would be in. Well, my local dealer expects to have one in March, I will be placing my order when I go down and buy the Grom they just got in for myself! I dont see my wife riding a ton, but any time we can get out together will be fun. I fully expect my 13 yr old daughter to ride it more when she turns 16 lol. Heck, hopefully I can dual sport it like the Grom and we can trail ride before she turns 16
rebel cvt done deal
Happy wife happy life
@@GratefulEd907 aint that the truth!
@@MrSirjud01 I got an old trail 110 for my wife she loves it. It has a 4 speed semi automatic transmission.
@@MrSirjud01 I actually bought it as a project for me but when I got it running she claimed it. And I’m not about to tell her no I have other bikes for me to ride
Awesome review. Never owned a bike before, but for the price and MPG and comfort, this one is so appealing!
I like it, but it needs a triforce emblem due to the name.
I wanted to get another grom after selling mine and upgrading to a 500. But I think i’ll get this as my second motorcycle as it’s perfect for running around town and getting groceries or stuff
I remember you making fun of that brown color and I was like it’s my favorite one! 😂. Glad to hear you changed your mind, I think I’ll preorder that one
I'm getting the grasshopper green. My dealer wasn't getting the brown. I wasn't a fan of brown at first, but I bet it looks better in person
United States has very interesting military colors. While Mexico has mainstream & one sporty color.
Can't wait to see all the Navi squads popping up
Wearing leather and chains too…scary bunch!
What sucks is these go for around $600-700US in India and Mexico and been there since 2016
I would really love to see this and the grom in a scrambler form with offroad tires and everything
$2k for the Navi?
Sounds like a nice price. It seems like it would be great for getting around town.
I bought my red NAVI in my India in 2016. Just under $900 with all accessories. Absolutely love it. I migrated to Philippines in 2018. Sold my Navi to a friend. Now back in India for a year, I repurchased my beloved Navi...which did only 250 km while I was away 4 years.
I have done 10000 km...even 300 km trip...fully loaded with 70 kg luggage...after my 4th heart attack.
I am on several Navi groups on FB and loving sharing and caring with USA NAVIgators!
I await ELECTRIC NAVI in my beautiful Philippines where, unlike India, traffic and roads are HEAVENLY.
MABUHAY NAMESTEY.
I request another drag race 😂 great video man!!
Awesome Video, Thanks! The Grom is 5mph faster but the Navi is quicker start and easier to learn on. Inexpensive Street legal minibikes, great for camping trips, loading on a back porch behind your car, Makes the Navi a Great buy!
Also loved the peek at the customs! Sound system was way cool! V&H exhaust was wild!
Our Navi has the Honda rear rack which adds a little security for a rider,
Honda windshield helps with bugs, etc...
I have one of these I use when I’m in India. Great little bike for whizzing through the Indian traffic and fun to ride. I think mine cost around $700 new!
Nice vid Alex. Very comprehensive. I appreciate the cameo.
Honda should of put those mirrors on the grom instead of the round goofy ones.
Honda sold these for about USD 650 (About INR 50K) in India. It's discontinued though.
Can’t wait to snap one up used about a year or two after release for $1500!
You wont find them used under 1800. Dealers are marking these up and with fees it ends up being around 3k. You might find one used for 2200.
Saw a couple of these cruising around town and talked to a rider outside a grocery store. They like it! Around town you’re going to be shifting a lot on bikes. Scoot like bikes are king in town and fun in the country.
I wish I would have looked into and purchased two of these instead of my two e bikes. Didn't think of it, my bad!!
It's really tough not to consider this when you see the price tag. I always wanted a small "scooter" sorta bike when I'm staying close to home.
A cheaper grom, and its got storage? Just what I wanted.
Really impressive for the price! But this isn’t a motorcycle in the same way that the Super Cub isn’t a scooter. It’s not about body shape, it’s about engine placement. This has the engine on the swing arm, making it a scooter. While the Super Cub has the engine on the frame, making it a motorcycle.
Just a technicality though. Looks like a great ride either way, and hopefully will get a lot more people on two wheels in the US!
it's the cvt (twist n go) that makes it a scooter. It would still be a scooter if the motor was mounted on the upper frame.
@@amatureskater15 I’m not so sure about that. I don’t think the Aprilia Mana 850 GT is a scooter, for example, even though it has a cvt. But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter if you call something a scooter or motorcycle as long as it’s fun!
@@nateeames6826 Sounds like an exception, not the rule 😉. Scooter= around 300cc or smaller, CVT, step through design( not always tho) and wide tires. That being said... Your right. Fun is key 🇺🇲💚
@@nateeames6826 No, hes right.
CVT makes it a scooter/moped. Large engine CVT are still classified as mopeds.
I think the one that was made by steady garage was meant to look more like a cafe racer, still looks cool regardless and I hope theres a lot of aftermarket support for these like the there was for the older Honda two strokes.
I see there are some features different from the version sold in Mexico, for instance, we have two different keys, a smaller one for the box, it comes without kill switch, and no foot brake, but We do have more custom accesories, probably they will come out in the US next year.
I just had dealer tell me it’s $3550 out the door! After all fees and taxes. That DEFEATS purpose of buying it. I’ll keep my Grom.
Exactly, that's what I've been saying.
They tease the public with a low price and then when you go to a dealer they mark the hell of the bike up with adm mark up fees.
Crf250l paid 4200 new. 50cc I'd almost rather just ride my bicycle
You can’t really avoid paying tax, registration, etc, but was the dealer including some ridiculous amount for setup or something else?
@@MrBlaze256 109cc
Ugh. Just have to wait until they show up used.
I recently bought a Honda Navi. 1) can't beat the price for a street legal motorcycle. 2) The Navi is almost the same price as a fancy Electric Bike 3) Teaching my boy how to ride a motorcycle without the clutch as a beginner rider what great, he just focus on using the brakes, turn signals, start and stop on traffic, etc.. 4) As my second bike, easy to get round town specially work and stores, save a lot on gas.
Fantastic, in-depth review. Strongly swayed towards the bike now for commuting to work. You have earned a viewer keep up the great work!
Honda absolutely killed it with these bikes. I hope they really take off!
Was a total flop in India. No one bought it.
@@spiritofe629 cause India
This is going to be my first motorcycle. It's much cheaper than the cheapest new car and I'm simply not comfortable buying a used motorbike since I know so little about them. Really excited to get my license and head out on two wheels.
I thought about getting a Navi for my 16 yr old. 1800$ sounds awesome. The only thing is Honda dealers charge 600$ dealer fee 300$ shipping fee 159$ assembly fee plus tax title and license. Ends up being closer to 3000$.
Can’t wait to buy one, fantastic video!
I think it's awesome for the price. I hope Honda considers a 2nd model with the 49cc Ruckus motor because there are many states where you don't need a motorcycle license to ride a 49cc scooter.
And swap it the other way too. A 109cc Ruckus would be awesome for those of us with licenses
@@thejubieexperience I wouldn't doubt sooner or later ppl will start getting their hands on Navi engines and swapping them into ruckuses even though they already doing GY6 150 swaps
That tron inspired one has me drooling at the idea of one of these, particularly for how cheap it is.
Incredible!!! The Honda Navi was introduced a couple of months ago in South America at a cost of $931.00, in US it is introduced at $1,800.00!!!
Lol Here in El Salvador, the Navi came out in 2017 at a cost of $ 1300, now it cost 1550 $ without any extra. if you want the adventure Kit, the motorbike cost 1800 $ more or less.
In India it was launched like 5years ago lmfao for around $900
I really love this bike, but in the USA it doesn’t make a lot of sense. In most states, you can drive a bike with a engine less than 50cc with no motorcycle license, yet the “no license need” models (ruckus & metro) are more expensive than the Navi. I get that
DUIcycles Are what they are referred to here. Part of the reason why nobody wants to associate with scooters. It's a shame really for both the scooters and the miserable looking drunks that are obviously not riding for the fun of two wheels. Better than them driving a car drunk again though.
Here in ohio beginners can ride on temps, just not on the highway or at night. It wouldn't take them long to get good enough to pass the riding test on this for an endorsement, if they wanted.
Here in the netherlands (and most of the EU) you need a A1 license for this, so you need 3 exams (one theoretical and 2 practical) to be allowed to ride it, and you'll learn to shift eitherway. That said, if it gets to the netherlands, it would still be about 4k here amd a used grom is about 2800 euros when one is available.
That said, i love the fact that its carburated. Makes tuning a lot easier ;) cause you just know there will be over bore kits and such
here in slovakia you get the Am license when together with the B license and with that you can ride this, but you need the A1 for the grom
@@Digidi4 here the AM is onlu up to 50cc unfortunatly
Here in America you get one license you can get it on a fully automatic 50cc scooter if you please and then your allowed to ride ANY bike ANY size lol because "freedumb"
Same, 50cc or greater requires a licence in USA. And my class put us on loaner 250cc manual cruisers to do all the testing on.
MCM recently let us all know that the humble CT 125 bike is no longer able to be purchased in Australia due to it not having dual ABS (our design rules are a bit rubbish). Can I assume this lil' fella also doesn't have that? pity as it's such a cool bike
🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼 Honda bring these to the UK - they would be bloody brilliant to own and run in London - cheap to run and easy to park.
Might be a dumb question but for bikes like this (Navi, Ruckus, Cubs etc), do you all transport them on a truck or something to the location you want to ride for the day? Reason I ask is, while I'd LOVE to ride around the coast in Newport...there's no way I'd be able to get there via local/surface streets from Pasadena lol.
You could but it would take hours.
Nice bumper bike for the RV crowd 👍
I think the headset while on the road is more impressive. All my Bluetooth does not sound that clear. Impressed.
Keep up your great work at describing the operation of bikes and explaining the controls and how the bike operates. Do this for the Honda Rebel 1100 DCT.
Every vid i watch on this navi ,i go, i wwnt one ,then naaa i 'll buy a Grom, now after your great vid i am....I wan't it.
I would use this as a rv. & fun bike and keep my 650 v-strome of coarse.
Question?
Is the hand brake for both wheels or just the rear?
Or just the front?
This would be a perfect 10 mile radius bike for running around town but I'm more of an electric guy but I really like this little bike...
I have a 1kw ebike and it's awesome, but so too is this Navi
Good God men, get away from the dark side!
I’ve got a 2023 ranger green but I’m going to change it to red , that red color just looks AWSOME
I just picked up a new 2023 Navi for just shy of $2500 by the time taxes and registration and everything shook out. I love it so far and think it will be the perfect fit for me!
I don't think Honda can make enough of these. A small bike for going around town and commuting back and forth to work. Great gas mileage.
Not the best mileage really.....50 miles between fill ups
@@kahnny23that's literally impossible unless you have a fuel leak
I want this bike I wonder how long it takes to get it or if it will just be in the store
I'm 70 and not going thru the mid life thing and have never had a bike.. I think I'm going to start looking for an around town toy .. thanks for the review.. very informative..
G’day mate!
How did you go?
Australia
I'm thinking it would be perfect if you could get aftermarket brake set up and mabe a small Turbo I'd like to see a top end speed that would top out at Az freeway speed of 75 with some wiggle room so 87mph.
Being so small I'm afraid that this would be super easy to steal.
Come Christmas Eve I'm going to be outside waiting for thives. They stole my Forza last year, the best thing I've ever had.
Park in your enclosed garage and lock the door
@@EchoSigma6 If that was an option
I love the idea of this and I feel like it could get more people into motorcycling but I wish they’d get the power up enough for it to do 55 uphill somewhat easily. Maybe put a governed speed limit at 55 so no one will be tempted to take it on the highway.
I bought a Navi and I absolutely love it. It does everything I need it to do, and is fun as shit doing it. The epitome of the perception of speed...with not much speed. What is most interesting is the number of comments and questions I get. I live in a county full of compensators. Nothing but majorly loud cruisers, and overtuned sport bikes. Mini bikes aren't seen on the roads here. My Navi is literally the only one I've ever seen rolling down any street here. While many Honda dealerships can't keep Navi's in, ours still has 2022's and 23's with 2025's coming out. I'm the only local in as long as they can remember that bought one. So the bike is met with curiosity everywhere I go, and people go nuts over it. And after talking to me for a few minutes, they want one, LOL!
Same here, man, I get compliments and questions on The Navi like crazyyyyyyyyy, guys love it, women love it, and they love riding with me, it’s a great bike that people love, and they love how it looks, very 1980s 1990s looking Japanese mini bike
I'm surprised that the Navi is now selling in the US, I'm from Colombia and the Navi is popular here, we don't have the Grom, i really like that bike.
I'd like to see a 250cc version of it. I'm sure if it sells well which I think it will we would soon see a 250cc Super Navi. If Honda doesn't do it I'm betting someone is going to graft a 250cc CVT engine with CVT into a Navi. Honda clones can be purchased online so I expect that to happen very soon.
at least 150 really. it would be so much more useful if you could keep up with traffic and not feel like a slow moving target.
How much would you expect that bike to sell for?
@@PumaM90 I haven't a clue. I don't understand how they are selling them new for $1,807 plus tax and fees. I'd expect it to cost slightly more than a 125cc Grom just because it would be faster and weigh a little more. Being a 250cc I'd expect it would easily do 70 mph making it capable of running at interstate highway speeds. That alone would be a huge selling point for people that need to commute on an interstate highway at some point along the way.
@@n4zou
70 mph in this tiny thing? Sounds a bit wobbly and terrifying. Good luck.
perfect little campus bike
My favorite bike of all time is the Honda 50. That is a very cool bike there. I just got an XL185 to fix up to put around on.
great first bike heck yea, great 2 nd bike heck yea, this will be 10 for me. i have the ruckus and ct 125 trail in garage among others.
Yeah awesome price till the dealerships mark them up $500. Guarantee you ain’t getting out the door under 2500 to 3000
Wow..Nicely priced, a perfect local commuter and just maybe cooler then a Vespa 😎
Just minutes away from everywhere I need to be, work, groceries and Beach.
This just might work, Gotta test ride that Honda as I have eyes on a Sondors E motor cycle at 5.000 + so now that's a cool looking bike👍🏻 decisions decisions 🤔