I'm really curious how it did on hills. On a steep hill, like 6%, how does it do with your weight? How about something easier like 4%? I had a 50cc that did great on flats but hills... Not so much. And our house was at the top with no easy approach.
Love your reviews. I currently have Honda CBR 300 and looking to trade it in for a Harley or maybe a mini bike. I have a 12 year old son and 8 year old daughter and want to teach them how to ride. Can’t decide between the Grom, Navi, or Papio. Going to use it to ride around town to do errands and visit friends in neighboring cities. Going on the freeway is not a priority but would be nice to have that option. What would be the best bang for my buck. I can use my XBR as a trade in if necessary. Any advice would be helpful.
Zack talks about this being viable transportation, and that is EXACTLY what this is. It shares its underpinnings with India's best selling scooter, and 2 wheeler full stop, the Honda Activa 110, and was only made because some people wanted the look of a motorcycle but the convenience of a scooter. It hasn't exactly set the market on fire, but was a unique concept nonetheless.
I understand that this thing is not for the European market due to licence restrictions but how does Honda manage to sell a 100cc scooter for 1.8k when their cheapest 125cc scooter is barely under 3k. And generally branded 50cc scooters also go for around 2k
I've watched about 10 reviews on the Navi.. Every other review i watched said its not possible to wheelie the Navi.. And here goes Zack with an epic wheelie! Absolutely love his daily rider series!!
For those who have never ridden something with a "reserve tank", the way that you know WHEN to switch to reserve is that the motor begins to stumble from lack of gasoline. You need to reach down and turn the valve (petcock) to switch to reserve. It is not much fun when it happens in heavy traffic or in the middle of an intersection. The "linked" brakes are used to exempt the Navi from the ABS requirements in some countries.
nope they think linked brake are cheap advanced tech for brake system and people in here ( indonesia ) dislike it since it proved more dangerous and have people getting accident specially at rain or bad tire
I own one of these in NYC; I find myself grabbing it for almost any local trips over my car or the 21 MT09 that don’t require highway, and I think you missed a few very important points about the Navi: Maintenance costs are extremely minimal. It takes 0.7L of motor oil every 2500 miles, replacement parts are cheaper than a tank of gas on larger bikes, and you can get a replacement short block for less than $200! This is quite literally one of the cheapest modes of transport you can buy when you factor in maintenance costs ($6 oil changes assuming you have a torque wrench and some metric sockets) Also the aftermarket is busy at work getting more pop out of this thing, intake/exhaust/rejet alone netted 2 whp (40%) gains up top without touching the variator. Hope someone reads this comment and realizes there’s more to bike ownership than purchasing one from a dealer.
@@slamminpotatoes4508 like 2780 OTD after tax/fees/title/reg/inspection. The junk fees totaled $320 which is fair for NYC. other dealers wanted $3200-3500 OTD.
@@slamminpotatoes4508 I’m sorry this bike is not worth $3500 or whatever craziness they come up with, would rather step up to a 300cc like an MT03. Honestly I’m not entirely sold that its worth 2780 lol
@@themystx2 well you're mixing up the idea of the 2 bikes, this is a urban low cost bike, mt03 it's one of the worst consume you will find mine does 16 km/l in low rotations but i don't think you can stay at high rotation all the time unless where you live don't exist speed limit, this little bike have a small maintenance cost, I'm planning on selling mine mt03 because of that the maintenance it's expensive here and I don't use her so much for the high price. Well I don't know if on US these prices might be better.
With gas prices at crushing levels, this little guy is looking good right now. I have a full size motorcycle that gets 50 mpg when driven gently, and that's half of this scooter.
If you could try to get hands on Hero Splendor or Bajaj CT100 or Bajaj Platina (these are bikes) get it!! It has fuel avg of min 67KMPL (Kilometres Per Litre) and some users have got 90KMPL....
Can't believe a channel this big is talking about the Honda Navi, that was my first bike when it first came out, I rode it for almost 2 years, very small bike but I was impressed by its performance, I'm 6'1 90kg and I was able to commute with no problem at 80-90km/h, of course I used it in a very small town which it was perfect for. Also never had a single issue with it, just oil change, gas and that was it.
Long time viewer, first time commenter. This is probably the best episode yet due to the gentle tone, light recap for the new viewers, and just general joy from Zack. Keep it up; this series is some of the best content on RUclips.
To answer some of zacks questions: I live in Honduras C.A. Got 2 of them. They fit both in the back of my pick up. You can lift them in with 2 persons. I do light off road adventures with it. Did adventures rides to Nicaragua salvador,guatemala and mexico. It fits the reckless 40 from mosko moto :) IT IS UNDERPOWERED, NO SUSPENSION, NO BREAKS,.... BUT SOOOOOO MUCH FUN FOR ONLY 1400$(Honduras price) I have been riding for 35 years and this thing just puts a smile on my face
Sweet. Now, DO A ROAD TRIP ON ONE! You and Ari on Navis. I don't even care where you ride, I just want to see you guys put like a thousand miles on these things!
That wheelie on the Navi was epic. I've always liked the smaller bikes. I currently own and daily ride 2 (R3 & XT250). Easy to use & cheap to own. Brilliant review as usuaL from this channel ;-)
I wanna say thank you for this vid ! 1. You practically took every street I normally take everyday ( I also live in the southbay) 2. I’m looking at all the reviews for the Navi and this one actually explained a lot more than the others 3. You probably sold me on this bike Again thanks alot !
This was a great review! But the Q&A got me thinking. Could you and Ari, get a longer term Navi from Honda and do a Shop Manual episode about all of the small jobs associated with a simpler bike? Front and rear brake cable adjustment, how to store it, carb cleaning, battery charging/change etc… The review is an awesome first step the get new riders interested. But a follow up showing people what they should expect as an owner would really complete the conversation. Keep up the great content!
This! As a new rider who doesn’t want to tinker around with the bike at all (yes I will pay for dealer maintenance), I need to know what are the basic things I’d have to do outside of regular scheduled maintenance: checking oil fluid, filling tires with air, etc. What of those types of things have to be done for a Navi?
@@andydarling8951 valve adjustment on the small Honda engines is probably really the only other bit, apart from the drive system maintenance. Valve adjustment is easy - lock it onto top dead centre, take valve adjustment covers off, back off the locknuts on the adjusters and lightly seat the adjusters by hand before using a feeler gauge to get the appropriate clearance. If you don't have one then about 2/3 a turn out from lightly seated is usually the go. And that's the valve adjustment done.
The thing with carbs - 15 or 20 years ago, carburetors were normal. I daily ride a carbureted bike, and with a few considerations it shouldn’t be a deal breaker. If you pay attention to certain things (not letting it sit for more than a couple days with gas in the bowl, using non-ethanol fuel when possible, letting it warm up) then the maintenance almost doesn’t exist. Even then, the driveway mechanic can rebuild a carb in a few hours. EFI is nice, no doubt, but riding with a carb isn’t the most awful thing either 😄
If i lose 20lbs by my birthday in August my wife will buy me one as a reward. I’m sitting here in a chair, winding down after a workout. I’ve been waiting for YOU to do this review! Love it!!!
Here in Japan the Ruckus (it is called "Zoom" here) is only a 50cc. 6:30 Bore up to about 130 may be possible. It seems to me, given what Zack is saying, that people in the US may expect more from a bike like this than is reasonable. I would think that at the price point, this is "better than no personal transport and maybe a little fun." Thanks for the review.
It’s not so much that we expect more from a small bike, but that most of us need more from any bike. Cities are far apart in the US, especially on the west coast, so the only real way to get to the next city is on highways with traffic going 130-140kph. So I don’t think anyone would expect the Navi to go fast, but highway capability will determine whether or not it’s an option for a lot of people.
I just got one of these a few weeks ago and it handles great in the city! I have so much fun going back and forth to work as my first bike, it great for learning
@@jacobpie3692 I mean right now, roughly 75ish but that’s a guess as I haven’t let her run completely dry and I have been playing around a lot getting comfortable riding..
Rented one of these in Costa Rica to get around for a couple days. It’s certainly not recommended to use it how we did, but it took two people all over, multiple hour-long rides at WOT (maxes out at 85km/h going down a hill with two), up steep dirt roads (again at WOT, maxed out at 15km/h at some points), but it never missed a beat. Has my complete respect!
Dear Zach and RevZilla, A big thank you for this series and what y'all do in general. Watching the Daily Rider series is what sparked my interest in motorcycling. Zach is an incredibly fun person to tune into and the series, well, it speaks for itself. I purchased a 2021 Kawasaki z400 as my first bike in December, and seeing as Chicago is not too kind to motorcyclists in the winter, I have been DYING to ride. This series has helped me stay sane while I wait for warm weather. Thank you for being kind and welcoming to new riders! Thanks, ~Werm
@@fftheblueskys ah i meant that Chicago has terrible winters, both with the snow and the cold, for motorcycles. But thank you for the kind words! A few people have given me shit for my bike choice but once they realize that I absolutely love my motorcycle, they stop talking shit haha.
I'm surprised Honda released this in the States especially with the Grom. They Navi in India was made as an Motorcycle alternative to the scooters here
India upped their emission standard, which made the Navi unsellable there, so Honda just shipped all the Navis here despite the fact that they are only competing with themselves.
I bought the Navi because the Grom just didn't make sense to me. I drive around town mostly with a lot of stop and go traffic, and I can get anywhere between nearby towns on a 50 mph or less road. The Grom is good for that too, but you have to dick around with shifting, even when you just aren't in the mood for it. And while the Grom can do interstate speeds, it's not the safest thing in the world to be on a Grom doing interstate speeds. Then add in that a Grom costs twice as much as a Navi even used. I could literally buy a used Royal Enfield 600 with low miles and a warranty, with my Navi, and not have $6k wrapped up in a city bike, and a road bike that can easily and safely tackle the interstate anywhere I want to go for long distances. I feel like the Grom is trying to be too much, but doesn't do any of them as well as the Navi does the City minibike, and damn near anything over a 250 will do the interstate.
Honestly. For $1,800 you can't beat the NAVI in Quality, and Affordably the best value for your money. We (customers) can buy 2 at least for the price of any of the $4k+ cycles. As for myself. I love the idea behind the NAVI alot. It makes sense to me. Perfect for basic riding. For someone like me, whose foot likes to jump around nowadays, the no gears is great. Now if Honda was make a new Rukus like this, with 110cc engine, no gears, and say 2 gallon tank. That would be perfection.
I don't even have my motorcycle license yet but I am interested in this Navi because of the low MSRP , Honda reputation and finally, just the approachability of a scooter that looks like a motorcycle . Great review, RevZilla ! Somehow pulling the trigger on this Navi gets my foot in the door, and that's all I should ask for right now.
This has been my currently only vehicle since August . It’s been great for what it is . I feel like a 52 year old kid and every ride is like a mini adventure ! I put Blizzard bar muffs and heater gloves to get me through NJ winter 🥶 👍🏼
I love the fact that everyone who gets on these little bikes is smiling the whole time, and laughing while riding. They're just fun, and kinda make you feel like a kid again!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
This is the great thing about liking motorcycles, in general. I ride a BMW S1000RR and ride intermediate group at the track, and I want to ride the Novi.
I see Zack Courts doing any motorcycle review, I'm hitting that play button. No questions asked. Another solid review Mr. Courts. Always a pleasure to watch.
This was a really fun video! I was looking at the Navi as an option to buy for a friend who is interested in motorcycles, but not a big fan of them and might need a "soft" introduction on a small, safe, low and slow bike like that. I thought, "Hell, I could get two for that price and we could ride together all around town." Looking a lot more likely now!
We got our Navi back in January. Wife is learning on it. I can’t stop smiling when I steal it. With dealer fees and taxes it’s about a grand more than MSRP, which is annoying. But I agree with all your points. When you don’t compare it to something it isn’t, it’s amazing. Look forward to modifying it :)
With all fees at our local dealer we got my wife’s for 2,311, so still a grand cheaper than a used grom! It has been great for my wife to learn on and I get that same feeling when she needs a break from practicing and I can ride it around- sometimes more fun than a full size bike!
ChildishDyce I was at a bike shop today and they were saying it would be around $3800 out the door price which is way too high, what fees if you remember did you buy to pay as low as you did for it?
I absolutely love this bike and I have no idea why. Maybe it's because it just straddles the line between motorcycle and scooter perfectly. Still have the storage space, CVT and economy but without stepping through it so you're in a proper riding position. Looks kinda cool too. If only they could make something like this with like 25hp so it's just fast enough to keep up with highway traffic. That would make this really tempting to me for a little run about bike that I can just beat on and commute with every day.
I mean, you could certainly up the hp. Maybe not to 25 hp but shave the head, bump up the jetting, maybe do some port work. You could make it quicker. Now I want one
I see exactly what Honda's aiming for. It wants to tackle all the beginners that are looking at the used market for their first bike. When you take the MSC, and you come out of it with just a few dollars to spend and an aversion of anything over 1000 cc, this bike looks like a perfect starting point.
I'm 5'3" and used to ride dirt bikes as a kid, but haven't ridden in over a decade. I'm planning on getting my motorcycle license this year and want something small and cheap, this seems absolutely perfect. Thanks for the review!
Hey I'm thinking the same thing my commute is 5 miles, easy roads here sunny Socal. What do you think though about an ebike (no special license, no gas station).... still this little thing looks cool
Ohh thanks for this review! I am a brand new rider, never been on the front of a bike but the back with my husband. He introduced me to the Navi on a series of videos on RUclips to give me an opportunity to have some fun and a new adventure.!!! I felt so comfortable giving it a try because it has no clutch and understand very very easy to ride for a beginner according to all the reviews. He ordered my Navi and "she" should be here hopefully by the end of the month. I suggest ordering now because its taken about for months and still no Navi :( I think I will try a review myself being brand new to the scooter/motorcycle world of fun....I can give us a newbies a newbie point of view ! SOOOOOOO excited to try this out!
I started riding in 1966 and Love the NAVI....! I'd like to see a 200cc or 250cc bigger version of it with more storage, more fuel, a front disc brake and 80mph speed for our interstates! Having storage w/o saddlebag width is great. After-marketers need to design an approved gas can for the Navi storage compartment...
I can't wait to see what the aftermarket does for these. I sense a whole slew of "performance" mods coming soon. Big bore kits, exhausts, bigger carbs, etc. Even without all that stuff, this looks like a fun bike.
It already exists. The motor is just the standard 110 that comes in the Honda Elite and many others. Plenty of carb options ad variatiors/transmission mods you can use on it already.
I've watched a lot of Navi videos since it was announced for the US market... Not that I want or need one..but I can conclude something about it.... For what it is, as an entry level bike, at entry level pricing, to be approachable and easy to ride, a gateway to the larger motorcycling community, and as affordable (as far as brand new motor vehicles go) and basic transportation: it just works. Period. Cool.
Just heard about this and gonna look into it. Need a license first but it looks perfect for me. 5'2" sub 120lb rider who only needs to travel up to 10 miles one way for most trips.
Nice wheelie! My insurance company and my apartment association see it as a motorcycle, not a scooter. The brakes work, but fade is noticeable after 20-30 minutes of traffic. Praying someone produces a reliable disc brake/larger front tire swap. Just like Grom and Monkey comparable, I think Honda should release an alter ego of the Navi and give it a classic bike look, and a bigger tank (1 whole gallon!).
As someone who has previously owned a Honda Grom, I enjoy the Daily Rider episodes with the smaller bikes. It's probably because I'd rather take a road trip in a car & use a bike (possibly electric Grom if they ever make one) as my daily commuter.
I was thinking about getting a second ebike but after seeing this review I believe the Navi which is about the same price as a good ebike is a better buy well for me I should say..it do look like a fun lil bike I could ride to work with a smile on my face😀
I want this bike. I have a 600 but would totally ride this on weekdays around town running errands or running from location to location to shoot photographs and film shorts around NYC 👍
The cheapest I've heard of one of these selling for is $3300 otd ... which is $1500 over $1800 (83% over sticker). I'm sure it's a fun little bike, but not for what it costs in the USA. It is _vastly_ cheaper in other countries. My '22 Grom (sold it) would get 165 mpg if I rode it gently, that Navi mpg is horrible.
I got my Navi for $2900. I wanted a grom or z125 but dealers around my area wanted about $4500 to $4800 out the door and couldn’t afford it. I tried to get a benelli tnt 135 but dealer otd price for those are $4,000
Was at a Honda dealer here in OKC yesterday. No joke, the sales guy I was chatting up said Ruckus' are selling for $3,900 OTD (with a $2499 MSRP) and these little Navi bikes are $4K OTD even though a cheaper MSRP. Says that Honda just can't get anything built right now and delivered.
Seems like a real fun replacement for my minibike. Street legal, decent offroad, better speed. Sadly most of the main roads around me are 55 so I'd have to take other back roads. The only thing I didnt hear you cover was headlights and how good they are at night.
The Navi is absolutely a motorcycle. Anyone worrying about the scooter-ness, don’t worry. I daily rode 49cc scooters in Vegas for a couple years. They’re awesome, fun, easy, and perfect for the job. And there’s no maintenance worries either. Never had issues. They just run and run. I wouldn’t hesitate to own a Navi at all. In practical application, it’s the same as a Grom. But simpler and WAY cheaper.
you could easily disable the back link brake by simply pulling the cable out of the front brake arm. still probably wouldn't be able to back it in, but who knows. either way, it might be a little more fun.
This bike actually debuted in India, and it has a active 110cc scooter engine for your reference, it's perfect bike like scooter to get around the city.
Do them a big favor and recommend a Grom - much better brakes (front & back) better instrumentation and more power with less maintenance because of the fuel injection...
@Anthony Silvestri I was recommending the Grom as well the only thing is she never rode a bike so I think the clutch & shifter might be a little overwhelming, but I know some people take to it quicker than others.
@Anthony Silvestri nope she drove a manual transmission car. She's never been a car or motorcycle person and I guess now it's starting to kind of peak her interest.
Encourage her to buy the Navi. If she is intimidated by the transmission, let her ride the Navi and get her feet wet. If after 6 months she decides that she is ready to add transmission into her riding and is eager for something higher spec, I’m sure she could sell the Navi for at least half what she bought it for and switch to a grom or something larger. If she only spent $1000 for six months of motorcycle ownership that’s not a bad investment if you ask me.
I've never drove a motorcycle or dirt bike before and I was able to start riding it within the hour. Still learning a lot since I've had it for only a day but it's super easy to ride
I've had a few bikes and was gonna go for a 600cc plus, but this is perfect!! The cost of rent and everything is is a lot and this is an affordable option. I was fired from my previous job when I got covid so now I do doordash full time and wanted to use a cheaper gas alternative that would be fun. Cannot wait!!
Did you ever end up dashing on your Navi? I’ve wanted to so bad but never have. Always scared I’m going to get that one order with 4 drinks and 4 large soups.
A grew up in the 60’s and 70’s with carburetors on cars and motorcycles. I raced flat track and motocross. As long as you have a clean air filter and use good gas, carburetors are low maintenance especially with just one cylinder. Probably never need to touch it for years!
This little bike is cool, I think they missed mark with its displacement though. I think a 200cc that could push 65 mph would be better and still be extremely approachable for a new rider. It’s just needs a little more umph for people to grow into. Just my 2 cents! Great review as always Zack!
Do you remember the "Big Ruckus"? It was a 250cc twist and go than would do 65+. Sadly they did not sell well I'm the U.S. I would definitely ride one. Not to common to find these days.
Really wanted to get one for the girlfriend as her first bike so we could go riding together but the local dealer had the Honda Navi out-the-door over $3560. Told him that’s nearly 100% markup but he protested and attempted to justify their price gouging by saying “that’s just how the market is right now.” Drove a few hours away to buy a 2020 Z125 with 113 miles on it for $3400. Buy used if you want a cool mini bike right now. Don’t believe garbage dealers. There’s no shortage right now.
I heard nightmare stories from peeps trying to get a navi with bogus otd prices. Luckily in my city (maybe even state), these are in low demand, so I was able to pre order mine for 2,100ish. I was honestly expecting it to be 3k.
Another great review, although I would have placed it quite a bit higher on the board. Also, just noticed that you've gone over 1,000,000 subscribers. WELL DONE REVZILLA!!.
Here's the math for you, having commuted on several little bikes. 200lb rider + constant use of afterburner = 70-80 mpg. 140lb rider, with a light touch on the throttle and staying below 40 and mostly at 35 mph = 110 mpg. 😂 I had a CB450e that, if I was very, very careful would hit 60mpg. But the realities of staying alive in city traffic meant I usually got 50-55.
I found one near buy its brown, I like the green one and itll be about $3000 out the door after wonderful ca taxes doc fees and all that. I still thinking fair for what you're getting. Hoping to pick it up this weekend. This video made me want it more haha. Great work new sub!
@@ichabod7939 Im 27 but have had a lot of practice making pancakes. Im in Ohio. We are almost to warm weather but not quite. I really need to flush my brake fluid, check the air filter and do my fork seals. But finding time is difficult.
I've been riding motorcycles for over 20 years, but recently bought a pair of Genuine Scooter CO. Buddy's a 125cc and a 170cc for my 17 year old son and I to have fun with. I've been loving my 170, and have riden it much more than my Triumph Bonneville. I picked the 170 up for $1000, made in Taiwan and has a good dealer network. So much fun!
I knew I wanted one before, and now that I’ve seen one wheelie I know I NEED one lmao. The price is right, I kinda like the carburetor because of tuning and upgrading potential. Coupled with a better exhaust would probably give it just that little bit more pep! Excellent video
I'm tiny 120 lbs everyday I ride to work on my Electra glide and there is a huge guy that takes the same route on his little navi. I love sitting next to him at the lights, bet most folks round here think we know each other but we don't.
Another fun and informative Daily Rider! Zack is one helluva ambassador for the moto community and a joy to watch (as is his bud Ari). When I get that new episode notification during the day, I know exactly what I'm casting to the big screen that night.
Great review Zack! If I had this bike the first thing I'd do to it is disconnecting the rear break from the front drum. One cable on each break is enough and then I'd skid every corner between wheelies 😅
Zack, This was a fun review. I have watched and enjoyed every Daily Rider review and this one just underscores your versatility, enthusiasm and completeness as a reviewer and motorcyclist Thanks to you and RevZilla!
Now that was fun. Thanks Zack! The wheelie was epic 😎. I really enjoy the smaller bikes and daily a Kymco Spade 150 these days. Even took it on a 1200 mile trip from Oregon to Idaho and back last September. I guess you just have to have the right (or wrong) mindset and it's a blast. I had to start my week using my FZ6 and didn't realize how much I missed the Spade until I used it Thursday. I always plan on having a big boy bike as well as a small one, but see myself going for the small one most of the time.
I feel like this is than answer to HS/LS's question: "Can a motorcycle be too cheap". To me it is, when Honda also makes the CB125F, barely more expensive, but fuel injected, ABS and full size. Much more range, better fuel economy, more comfort and a bit safer. And in my opinion, also better to teach someone new to motorcycles, thanks to the bigger wheels, it won't be as sensitive to rider movement. Just a personal opinion.
Yep, closest USA model in price is the Metropolitan which is physically smaller and 50cc and $700 more expensive or 1.38 times more expensive then the Navi
$1800 is such a great price point to get into riding. I’ve been riding for a while now and would love to add one of these to the lineup. Such a cool little bike.
Funny thing is I'm in India currently where they stopped selling this bike, but recently met a guy who has one, run 800 km only and in very new condition, gonna get it for 40K INR and gonna enjoy this amazing monkey bike 😁👍
Tough to give a fair review of a scooter-ish bike. Good job. The issue with the carbs rather than fuel injection is the ethanol will make learning to clean carbs a must. With the gas companies gouging us now there is more of a need for this bike than what Lemmy has opined.
Im looking for a Grom and everywhere i look around me only has the Navi in stock so i had to watch this review. I'm actually kinda surprised by it and watching someone who has rode basically every bike out there have fun on this thing has to say something.
Great and informative review. I'm a non-biking novice. 53 years old and I have two experiences with bikes. First was a Yahama two stroke something (not a dirt bike) that I was thinking of buying around age 17. Although I drove a clutch every day in my Beetle I managed to pop and over throttle it and stood it up on its back tire and almost over onto me. Next in my early 20s a friend had a Rebel he let me drive a little and it had something wrong with it so it would top out about 45 MPH and I found that intimidating while getting tailgated by a 1970s Impala. So...I've just suppressed any bike interest over the past 30 or so years. But these fuel prices have me thinking about one again to get better fuel mileage than my NA Miata. The Ruckus was the first thing that came to mind but then I discovered the Navi and I'm getting a bad case of the wants.
My youngling sibling expressed their interest in wanting to ride but as not a rider myself I lean to something like this. It's nice to see Zack speak highly of one but I still worry about being crushed by trucks, pickups, and crossovers.
I love that you have the beginners in mind. I was looking at rebel 500’s and cb1000r’s but I bought one because it is so portable and convenient. I use it for my trips to the Smokey’s. It’s a fun little cruiser. Also this day in age that 100+ mpg makes me not worry about riding it.
In the Philippine, we have that in almost all new Honda scooter called Combi Brake but disk in front drum at Rear Scooters are good for beginners gate way on moto touring I use Honda Click and Beat
I just went to my local Dallas Honda dealer. It's wide, wider to me than a grom or monkey but livable. The only thing that threw me off was while the MSRP is $1899 the dealer wanted close to $3100 out the door including 500 in assembly. My thinking is while it's inexpensive and built to a price NFW would I pay the out the door price for having a good vibe about a 1yr warranty
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Really love how he shows the nimbleness of the bike
I'm really curious how it did on hills. On a steep hill, like 6%, how does it do with your weight? How about something easier like 4%?
I had a 50cc that did great on flats but hills... Not so much. And our house was at the top with no easy approach.
make honda navi ev
Love your reviews. I currently have Honda CBR 300 and looking to trade it in for a Harley or maybe a mini bike. I have a 12 year old son and 8 year old daughter and want to teach them how to ride. Can’t decide between the Grom, Navi, or Papio. Going to use it to ride around town to do errands and visit friends in neighboring cities. Going on the freeway is not a priority but would be nice to have that option. What would be the best bang for my buck. I can use my XBR as a trade in if necessary. Any advice would be helpful.
Zack talks about this being viable transportation, and that is EXACTLY what this is. It shares its underpinnings with India's best selling scooter, and 2 wheeler full stop, the Honda Activa 110, and was only made because some people wanted the look of a motorcycle but the convenience of a scooter.
It hasn't exactly set the market on fire, but was a unique concept nonetheless.
They stopped selling it here didn't they?
maybe in India it didn’t, but these are IMPOSSIBLE to buy at retail price in America
@@infam0usP I'm sure someone from India will be willing to sell it to you if it's possible or cost effective, to make a profit on it.
@@thomasfrank280 yup, used to cost 1.5k$
Market is on fire in the US, I am having a hard time finding one as a second bike.
If you are considering a scooter, this looks like a great option...especially since it's offered by Honda and is only $1,800.
I understand that this thing is not for the European market due to licence restrictions but how does Honda manage to sell a 100cc scooter for 1.8k when their cheapest 125cc scooter is barely under 3k. And generally branded 50cc scooters also go for around 2k
@@Daniel-dj7fh Produced cheaply in India. MSRP in India for this bike was only 600 USD
@@theblukatlife i own a ns200 too. Costed me 2000$ so you got a p good price considering its locally made here
@@Daniel-dj7fh Lets ask that question again in 30,000 miles. Maybe this thing doesn't hold up.
@@hacunamatata6802 Are you someone to ride a bike to 30k miles?
I've watched about 10 reviews on the Navi.. Every other review i watched said its not possible to wheelie the Navi.. And here goes Zack with an epic wheelie! Absolutely love his daily rider series!!
No that is a good bike though Honda is a good bike
Zack the type of guy to do dank nooners on a unicycle
My friend can wheelie a stock Yamaha BWS 50, it comes down to skills.
It was an impressive wheelie at that! I'm sold on this bike 😂
For those who have never ridden something with a "reserve tank", the way that you know WHEN to switch to reserve is that the motor begins to stumble from lack of gasoline. You need to reach down and turn the valve (petcock) to switch to reserve. It is not much fun when it happens in heavy traffic or in the middle of an intersection.
The "linked" brakes are used to exempt the Navi from the ABS requirements in some countries.
Slosh the fuel to the left of the tank, helps you get across the intersection.
CBS combined brake system for those wondering
nope they think linked brake are cheap advanced tech for brake system and people in here ( indonesia ) dislike it since it proved more dangerous and have people getting accident specially at rain or bad tire
If its a two stroke its more fun because the engine starts redlining
@@themetabaron8722 Not always, the two-strokes I had (a long time ago) just died like the four strokes.
I own one of these in NYC; I find myself grabbing it for almost any local trips over my car or the 21 MT09 that don’t require highway, and I think you missed a few very important points about the Navi:
Maintenance costs are extremely minimal. It takes 0.7L of motor oil every 2500 miles, replacement parts are cheaper than a tank of gas on larger bikes, and you can get a replacement short block for less than $200!
This is quite literally one of the cheapest modes of transport you can buy when you factor in maintenance costs ($6 oil changes assuming you have a torque wrench and some metric sockets)
Also the aftermarket is busy at work getting more pop out of this thing, intake/exhaust/rejet alone netted 2 whp (40%) gains up top without touching the variator.
Hope someone reads this comment and realizes there’s more to bike ownership than purchasing one from a dealer.
Did you have to pay dealer fees?
@@slamminpotatoes4508 like 2780 OTD after tax/fees/title/reg/inspection. The junk fees totaled $320 which is fair for NYC. other dealers wanted $3200-3500 OTD.
@@themystx2 The junk fees were super low. Here in CA they wanted $1000 in dealer fees alone! Nice deal, and I hope you enjoy your Navi!
@@slamminpotatoes4508 I’m sorry this bike is not worth $3500 or whatever craziness they come up with, would rather step up to a 300cc like an MT03. Honestly I’m not entirely sold that its worth 2780 lol
@@themystx2 well you're mixing up the idea of the 2 bikes, this is a urban low cost bike, mt03 it's one of the worst consume you will find mine does 16 km/l in low rotations but i don't think you can stay at high rotation all the time unless where you live don't exist speed limit, this little bike have a small maintenance cost, I'm planning on selling mine mt03 because of that the maintenance it's expensive here and I don't use her so much for the high price.
Well I don't know if on US these prices might be better.
As a new rider who can only afford a Navi, this was a great way to see what it has and how fast it goes.
Zack is just a positive bundle of energy as always. such a joy to continue following this series :)
Zack is the golden retriever of people. Just happy to be happy.
@@keithquinn5624 you're weird, brother.
@@keithquinn5624he is not gay it's just his balls haven't dropped yet, makes him a better motorcyclist though, like if Ned Flanders was a eunuch.
@@keithquinn5624 classy comment
Cringe
With gas prices at crushing levels, this little guy is looking good right now. I have a full size motorcycle that gets 50 mpg when driven gently, and that's half of this scooter.
If you could try to get hands on Hero Splendor or Bajaj CT100 or Bajaj Platina (these are bikes) get it!! It has fuel avg of min 67KMPL (Kilometres Per Litre) and some users have got 90KMPL....
It looks even better for daily commuting when I’m at 15mpg in my truck and $6 a gallon 😂
Right
No one is getting 100mpg on a Navi.
@@hacunamatata6802 it is possible, another scooter from Honda with same engine as navi got 60km/l with 14" rear wheel and 72grams cvt roller
You wheelied a scooter and you held it. Mad respect.
Can't believe a channel this big is talking about the Honda Navi, that was my first bike when it first came out, I rode it for almost 2 years, very small bike but I was impressed by its performance, I'm 6'1 90kg and I was able to commute with no problem at 80-90km/h, of course I used it in a very small town which it was perfect for. Also never had a single issue with it, just oil change, gas and that was it.
With a big bike, you get a thrill on acceleration, on a small bike, you get a thrill all the time. Never seen a test rider so happy.
Long time viewer, first time commenter.
This is probably the best episode yet due to the gentle tone, light recap for the new viewers, and just general joy from Zack.
Keep it up; this series is some of the best content on RUclips.
Loooong time listener first time coooaller! Tom Leykis
It absolutely does not get any better than watching Zack review ANY motorcycle. Including the Navi!
He’s hilarious reviewing American bikes. He’s in such pain but puts on a brave smile.
To answer some of zacks questions:
I live in Honduras C.A. Got 2 of them. They fit both in the back of my pick up. You can lift them in with 2 persons.
I do light off road adventures with it.
Did adventures rides to Nicaragua salvador,guatemala and mexico.
It fits the reckless 40 from mosko moto :)
IT IS UNDERPOWERED, NO SUSPENSION, NO BREAKS,....
BUT SOOOOOO MUCH FUN FOR ONLY 1400$(Honduras price)
I have been riding for 35 years and this thing just puts a smile on my face
I also ride one in Honduras. Tegus.
Peace.
Sweet. Now, DO A ROAD TRIP ON ONE! You and Ari on Navis. I don't even care where you ride, I just want to see you guys put like a thousand miles on these things!
This.
That wheelie on the Navi was epic. I've always liked the smaller bikes. I currently own and daily ride 2 (R3 & XT250). Easy to use & cheap to own. Brilliant review as usuaL from this channel ;-)
For me, those you said are medium sized bikes
@@chevymartinez3705 those wouldn’t even be considered middleweights though in the regular motorcycle category. It’s small displacement.
Thats the first time i read that r3 and xt250 are small bikes. Are you 8footer or something?
Am I the only one that really did NOT expect that front wheel to leave the blacktop?
Wait those are small?!
I wanna say thank you for this vid !
1. You practically took every street I normally take everyday ( I also live in the southbay)
2. I’m looking at all the reviews for the Navi and this one actually explained a lot more than the others
3. You probably sold me on this bike
Again thanks alot !
Hey wondering did you end up getting one Im thinking of getting one myself never used a motorcycle
I'm thinking to get it ne too never rode a motorcycle before.
This was a great review! But the Q&A got me thinking. Could you and Ari, get a longer term Navi from Honda and do a Shop Manual episode about all of the small jobs associated with a simpler bike? Front and rear brake cable adjustment, how to store it, carb cleaning, battery charging/change etc…
The review is an awesome first step the get new riders interested. But a follow up showing people what they should expect as an owner would really complete the conversation.
Keep up the great content!
This! As a new rider who doesn’t want to tinker around with the bike at all (yes I will pay for dealer maintenance), I need to know what are the basic things I’d have to do outside of regular scheduled maintenance: checking oil fluid, filling tires with air, etc. What of those types of things have to be done for a Navi?
@@andydarling8951 valve adjustment on the small Honda engines is probably really the only other bit, apart from the drive system maintenance. Valve adjustment is easy - lock it onto top dead centre, take valve adjustment covers off, back off the locknuts on the adjusters and lightly seat the adjusters by hand before using a feeler gauge to get the appropriate clearance. If you don't have one then about 2/3 a turn out from lightly seated is usually the go. And that's the valve adjustment done.
The thing with carbs - 15 or 20 years ago, carburetors were normal. I daily ride a carbureted bike, and with a few considerations it shouldn’t be a deal breaker. If you pay attention to certain things (not letting it sit for more than a couple days with gas in the bowl, using non-ethanol fuel when possible, letting it warm up) then the maintenance almost doesn’t exist. Even then, the driveway mechanic can rebuild a carb in a few hours. EFI is nice, no doubt, but riding with a carb isn’t the most awful thing either 😄
I agree
Modern carb vs old carbs
If i lose 20lbs by my birthday in August my wife will buy me one as a reward. I’m sitting here in a chair, winding down after a workout. I’ve been waiting for YOU to do this review! Love it!!!
What a life of an engine. Wide open its whole life.
Be sweet for my commute, mostly 30mph roads with a few 40mph.
That's the life of our Yamaha Vino 125. Always pinned to the max! Surprisingly amazing as it's had no issues considering it's at 15,000+ miles.
The life of my track only NSR50.
Here in Japan the Ruckus (it is called "Zoom" here) is only a 50cc.
6:30 Bore up to about 130 may be possible.
It seems to me, given what Zack is saying, that people in the US may expect more from a bike like this than is reasonable.
I would think that at the price point, this is "better than no personal transport and maybe a little fun."
Thanks for the review.
It’s not so much that we expect more from a small bike, but that most of us need more from any bike. Cities are far apart in the US, especially on the west coast, so the only real way to get to the next city is on highways with traffic going 130-140kph.
So I don’t think anyone would expect the Navi to go fast, but highway capability will determine whether or not it’s an option for a lot of people.
I just got one of these a few weeks ago and it handles great in the city! I have so much fun going back and forth to work as my first bike, it great for learning
What kinda mpg are you getting?
@@jacobpie3692 You're asking someone in break in period that ??
@@jacobpie3692 I mean right now, roughly 75ish but that’s a guess as I haven’t let her run completely dry and I have been playing around a lot getting comfortable riding..
Do you need a bike lincense to drive it?
@@lazomaniac yes you do, atleast in my state, it’s a 110 cc and anything over 49cc requires licensing.
Rented one of these in Costa Rica to get around for a couple days. It’s certainly not recommended to use it how we did, but it took two people all over, multiple hour-long rides at WOT (maxes out at 85km/h going down a hill with two), up steep dirt roads (again at WOT, maxed out at 15km/h at some points), but it never missed a beat. Has my complete respect!
Dear Zach and RevZilla,
A big thank you for this series and what y'all do in general. Watching the Daily Rider series is what sparked my interest in motorcycling. Zach is an incredibly fun person to tune into and the series, well, it speaks for itself. I purchased a 2021 Kawasaki z400 as my first bike in December, and seeing as Chicago is not too kind to motorcyclists in the winter, I have been DYING to ride. This series has helped me stay sane while I wait for warm weather. Thank you for being kind and welcoming to new riders!
Thanks,
~Werm
@@fftheblueskys ah i meant that Chicago has terrible winters, both with the snow and the cold, for motorcycles. But thank you for the kind words! A few people have given me shit for my bike choice but once they realize that I absolutely love my motorcycle, they stop talking shit haha.
I'm surprised Honda released this in the States especially with the Grom. They Navi in India was made as an Motorcycle alternative to the scooters here
India upped their emission standard, which made the Navi unsellable there, so Honda just shipped all the Navis here despite the fact that they are only competing with themselves.
@@lovelessissimo a good move by govt but yet significantly increased the prices of all vehicles....... Good for environment, bad for our pocket!
I bought the Navi because the Grom just didn't make sense to me. I drive around town mostly with a lot of stop and go traffic, and I can get anywhere between nearby towns on a 50 mph or less road. The Grom is good for that too, but you have to dick around with shifting, even when you just aren't in the mood for it. And while the Grom can do interstate speeds, it's not the safest thing in the world to be on a Grom doing interstate speeds. Then add in that a Grom costs twice as much as a Navi even used. I could literally buy a used Royal Enfield 600 with low miles and a warranty, with my Navi, and not have $6k wrapped up in a city bike, and a road bike that can easily and safely tackle the interstate anywhere I want to go for long distances. I feel like the Grom is trying to be too much, but doesn't do any of them as well as the Navi does the City minibike, and damn near anything over a 250 will do the interstate.
Honestly. For $1,800 you can't beat the NAVI in Quality, and Affordably the best value for your money.
We (customers) can buy 2 at least for the price of any of the $4k+ cycles.
As for myself. I love the idea behind the NAVI alot. It makes sense to me. Perfect for basic riding. For someone like me, whose foot likes to jump around nowadays, the no gears is great.
Now if Honda was make a new Rukus like this, with 110cc engine, no gears, and say 2 gallon tank. That would be perfection.
Its more out the door
@@310smoker ... Dealer Fees. Every bike has those if buy from a dealer.
I don't even have my motorcycle license yet but I am interested in this Navi because of the low MSRP , Honda reputation and finally, just the approachability of a scooter that looks like a motorcycle . Great review, RevZilla ! Somehow pulling the trigger on this Navi gets my foot in the door, and that's all I should ask for right now.
Back to “ You meet the nicest people on a Honda! “ times!
This has been my currently only vehicle since August . It’s been great for what it is . I feel like a 52 year old kid and every ride is like a mini adventure ! I put Blizzard bar muffs and heater gloves to get me through NJ winter 🥶 👍🏼
In winter are you able to drive ?i have to go to work everyday 6 mile go 6 mile back is that navi can take care of me ?
In winter
I love the fact that everyone who gets on these little bikes is smiling the whole time, and laughing while riding. They're just fun, and kinda make you feel like a kid again!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
This is the great thing about liking motorcycles, in general. I ride a BMW S1000RR and ride intermediate group at the track, and I want to ride the Novi.
Here in Brazil,we have A LOT of 110/125/160 (regular sized) motorcycles. They`re super cheap reliable and... surprisingly quick, when modded.
I see Zack Courts doing any motorcycle review, I'm hitting that play button. No questions asked. Another solid review Mr. Courts. Always a pleasure to watch.
This was a really fun video! I was looking at the Navi as an option to buy for a friend who is interested in motorcycles, but not a big fan of them and might need a "soft" introduction on a small, safe, low and slow bike like that. I thought, "Hell, I could get two for that price and we could ride together all around town." Looking a lot more likely now!
We got our Navi back in January. Wife is learning on it. I can’t stop smiling when I steal it. With dealer fees and taxes it’s about a grand more than MSRP, which is annoying. But I agree with all your points. When you don’t compare it to something it isn’t, it’s amazing. Look forward to modifying it :)
With all fees at our local dealer we got my wife’s for 2,311, so still a grand cheaper than a used grom! It has been great for my wife to learn on and I get that same feeling when she needs a break from practicing and I can ride it around- sometimes more fun than a full size bike!
@@SkyelerTheDisctroyer lucky! ~2700 total here.
ChildishDyce I was at a bike shop today and they were saying it would be around $3800 out the door price which is way too high, what fees if you remember did you buy to pay as low as you did for it?
Why do your wives learn driving on this bike?
Wouldn't it make more sense to learn on a 'real' motorcycle?
@@Jehty_ too scared to ride a “real” one.
I absolutely love this bike and I have no idea why. Maybe it's because it just straddles the line between motorcycle and scooter perfectly. Still have the storage space, CVT and economy but without stepping through it so you're in a proper riding position. Looks kinda cool too. If only they could make something like this with like 25hp so it's just fast enough to keep up with highway traffic. That would make this really tempting to me for a little run about bike that I can just beat on and commute with every day.
So... kinda like take the Honda Forza 250 and dress it in a motorcycle look? It's only 22hp 250cc but yeah... I can imagine that.
It’s a scooter…
25hp at that size would be interesting. Also it would be more $1800 so wouldn't be worth it anymore
With the size of the wheels and probably the limited braking, too much faster than 50mph may make things a bit precarious.
I mean, you could certainly up the hp. Maybe not to 25 hp but shave the head, bump up the jetting, maybe do some port work. You could make it quicker. Now I want one
I see exactly what Honda's aiming for. It wants to tackle all the beginners that are looking at the used market for their first bike. When you take the MSC, and you come out of it with just a few dollars to spend and an aversion of anything over 1000 cc, this bike looks like a perfect starting point.
We definitely need more daily rider videos of scooters. burgmans, xmax, pcx, they just don’t get any love unfortunately
I'm 5'3" and used to ride dirt bikes as a kid, but haven't ridden in over a decade. I'm planning on getting my motorcycle license this year and want something small and cheap, this seems absolutely perfect. Thanks for the review!
Hey I'm thinking the same thing my commute is 5 miles, easy roads here sunny Socal. What do you think though about an ebike (no special license, no gas station).... still this little thing looks cool
Ohh thanks for this review! I am a brand new rider, never been on the front of a bike but the back with my husband. He introduced me to the Navi on a series of videos on RUclips to give me an opportunity to have some fun and a new adventure.!!! I felt so comfortable giving it a try because it has no clutch and understand very very easy to ride for a beginner according to all the reviews. He ordered my Navi and "she" should be here hopefully by the end of the month. I suggest ordering now because its taken about for months and still no Navi :(
I think I will try a review myself being brand new to the scooter/motorcycle world of fun....I can give us a newbies a newbie point of view ! SOOOOOOO excited to try this out!
Just bought one yesterday- I had a blast riding the back streets of Las Vegas
I started riding in 1966 and Love the NAVI....! I'd like to see a 200cc or 250cc bigger version of it with more storage, more fuel, a front disc brake and 80mph speed for our interstates! Having storage w/o saddlebag width is great. After-marketers need to design an approved gas can for the Navi storage compartment...
I would buy it
@@henryscountryroad4672 My son sold his 100% what he gave for it... No Loss!
I can't wait to see what the aftermarket does for these. I sense a whole slew of "performance" mods coming soon. Big bore kits, exhausts, bigger carbs, etc.
Even without all that stuff, this looks like a fun bike.
It already exists. The motor is just the standard 110 that comes in the Honda Elite and many others. Plenty of carb options ad variatiors/transmission mods you can use on it already.
I've watched a lot of Navi videos since it was announced for the US market... Not that I want or need one..but I can conclude something about it....
For what it is, as an entry level bike, at entry level pricing, to be approachable and easy to ride, a gateway to the larger motorcycling community, and as affordable (as far as brand new motor vehicles go) and basic transportation: it just works. Period.
Cool.
Just heard about this and gonna look into it. Need a license first but it looks perfect for me. 5'2" sub 120lb rider who only needs to travel up to 10 miles one way for most trips.
Nice wheelie! My insurance company and my apartment association see it as a motorcycle, not a scooter. The brakes work, but fade is noticeable after 20-30 minutes of traffic. Praying someone produces a reliable disc brake/larger front tire swap. Just like Grom and Monkey comparable, I think Honda should release an alter ego of the Navi and give it a classic bike look, and a bigger tank (1 whole gallon!).
infinite respect to honda for still making a thing like this
As someone who has previously owned a Honda Grom, I enjoy the Daily Rider episodes with the smaller bikes. It's probably because I'd rather take a road trip in a car & use a bike (possibly electric Grom if they ever make one) as my daily commuter.
I’m really impressed, this is a great product for people starting out and don’t want an ugly scooter. Good price. Well done Honda
I was thinking about getting a second ebike but after seeing this review I believe the Navi which is about the same price as a good ebike is a better buy well for me I should say..it do look like a fun lil bike I could ride to work with a smile on my face😀
Looove to see a CTXP episode with this bike..
Please make it happen guys🙌🙌
I feel obligated to buy these just based on the price. Thanks Zack
I think I am going to start with this as I have no experience on motorcycles out in traffic. My roads are 25mph-35mph to work so this looks perfect.
I want this bike. I have a 600 but would totally ride this on weekdays around town running errands or running from location to location to shoot photographs and film shorts around NYC 👍
As an NYC owner I can fairly say splitting lanes on this thing is infinitely more pleasant than trying to squeeze my 900 through city streets.
The cheapest I've heard of one of these selling for is $3300 otd ... which is $1500 over $1800 (83% over sticker). I'm sure it's a fun little bike, but not for what it costs in the USA. It is _vastly_ cheaper in other countries. My '22 Grom (sold it) would get 165 mpg if I rode it gently, that Navi mpg is horrible.
I got my Navi for $2900. I wanted a grom or z125 but dealers around my area wanted about $4500 to $4800 out the door and couldn’t afford it. I tried to get a benelli tnt 135 but dealer otd price for those are $4,000
Was at a Honda dealer here in OKC yesterday. No joke, the sales guy I was chatting up said Ruckus' are selling for $3,900 OTD (with a $2499 MSRP) and these little Navi bikes are $4K OTD even though a cheaper MSRP. Says that Honda just can't get anything built right now and delivered.
Seems like a real fun replacement for my minibike. Street legal, decent offroad, better speed. Sadly most of the main roads around me are 55 so I'd have to take other back roads. The only thing I didnt hear you cover was headlights and how good they are at night.
Owner for six months now, headlight is not great. I am looking at upgrading to a led.
@arianna I dont want to be that guy going 5 under the speed limit. Its a fairly busy road.
The Navi is absolutely a motorcycle. Anyone worrying about the scooter-ness, don’t worry. I daily rode 49cc scooters in Vegas for a couple years. They’re awesome, fun, easy, and perfect for the job. And there’s no maintenance worries either. Never had issues. They just run and run. I wouldn’t hesitate to own a Navi at all. In practical application, it’s the same as a Grom. But simpler and WAY cheaper.
you could easily disable the back link brake by simply pulling the cable out of the front brake arm.
still probably wouldn't be able to back it in, but who knows. either way, it might be a little more fun.
You can add a real rear brake lever from the India model that still retains the parking brake function.
This bike actually debuted in India, and it has a active 110cc scooter engine for your reference, it's perfect bike like scooter to get around the city.
You came with PERFECT timing on a review for this little bike because somebody that I know was looking to get into something like this.
Do them a big favor and recommend a Grom - much better brakes (front & back) better instrumentation and more power with less maintenance because of the fuel injection...
@Anthony Silvestri I was recommending the Grom as well the only thing is she never rode a bike so I think the clutch & shifter might be a little overwhelming, but I know some people take to it quicker than others.
@@Frank7G has she ever driven a car with a manual transmission? I have taught a lot of people to ride over the years and that always seems to help...
@Anthony Silvestri nope she drove a manual transmission car. She's never been a car or motorcycle person and I guess now it's starting to kind of peak her interest.
Encourage her to buy the Navi. If she is intimidated by the transmission, let her ride the Navi and get her feet wet. If after 6 months she decides that she is ready to add transmission into her riding and is eager for something higher spec, I’m sure she could sell the Navi for at least half what she bought it for and switch to a grom or something larger. If she only spent $1000 for six months of motorcycle ownership that’s not a bad investment if you ask me.
Thank you, I am more interested in a Grom review from you, but I do appreciate the small bike reviews.
I've never drove a motorcycle or dirt bike before and I was able to start riding it within the hour. Still learning a lot since I've had it for only a day but it's super easy to ride
I've had a few bikes and was gonna go for a 600cc plus, but this is perfect!! The cost of rent and everything is is a lot and this is an affordable option. I was fired from my previous job when I got covid so now I do doordash full time and wanted to use a cheaper gas alternative that would be fun. Cannot wait!!
Did you ever end up dashing on your Navi? I’ve wanted to so bad but never have. Always scared I’m going to get that one order with 4 drinks and 4 large soups.
A grew up in the 60’s and 70’s with carburetors on cars and motorcycles. I raced flat track and motocross. As long as you have a clean air filter and use good gas, carburetors are low maintenance especially with just one cylinder. Probably never need to touch it for years!
This little bike is cool, I think they missed mark with its displacement though. I think a 200cc that could push 65 mph would be better and still be extremely approachable for a new rider. It’s just needs a little more umph for people to grow into. Just my 2 cents! Great review as always Zack!
Do you remember the "Big Ruckus"? It was a 250cc twist and go than would do 65+. Sadly they did not sell well I'm the U.S. I would definitely ride one. Not to common to find these days.
Tires are to small .
*too small
Really wanted to get one for the girlfriend as her first bike so we could go riding together but the local dealer had the Honda Navi out-the-door over $3560. Told him that’s nearly 100% markup but he protested and attempted to justify their price gouging by saying “that’s just how the market is right now.” Drove a few hours away to buy a 2020 Z125 with 113 miles on it for $3400.
Buy used if you want a cool mini bike right now. Don’t believe garbage dealers. There’s no shortage right now.
I heard nightmare stories from peeps trying to get a navi with bogus otd prices. Luckily in my city (maybe even state), these are in low demand, so I was able to pre order mine for 2,100ish. I was honestly expecting it to be 3k.
Another great review, although I would have placed it quite a bit higher on the board.
Also, just noticed that you've gone over 1,000,000 subscribers. WELL DONE REVZILLA!!.
Here's the math for you, having commuted on several little bikes. 200lb rider + constant use of afterburner = 70-80 mpg.
140lb rider, with a light touch on the throttle and staying below 40 and mostly at 35 mph = 110 mpg. 😂
I had a CB450e that, if I was very, very careful would hit 60mpg. But the realities of staying alive in city traffic meant I usually got 50-55.
So at the price point that looks like an amazing commuter option, and top speed around 50mph is more than acceptable.
I found one near buy its brown, I like the green one and itll be about $3000 out the door after wonderful ca taxes doc fees and all that. I still thinking fair for what you're getting. Hoping to pick it up this weekend. This video made me want it more haha. Great work new sub!
Making breakfast for my
kids and listening to Zach. Great way to start the day.
What's for breakfast? Lol
@@ichabod7939 Pancakes and fruit. If only it were warm enough for a ride.
Nooice, Dad's are the best pancake makers' hands down. I feel ya on the cold weather, I'm 1,200 miles from home (FL) in freezing a** Buffalo, NY.
@@ichabod7939 Im 27 but have had a lot of practice making pancakes. Im in Ohio. We are almost to warm weather but not quite. I really need to flush my brake fluid, check the air filter and do my fork seals. But finding time is difficult.
I've been riding motorcycles for over 20 years, but recently bought a pair of Genuine Scooter CO. Buddy's a 125cc and a 170cc for my 17 year old son and I to have fun with. I've been loving my 170, and have riden it much more than my Triumph Bonneville. I picked the 170 up for $1000, made in Taiwan and has a good dealer network. So much fun!
You guys do any Highway riding with those?
I knew I wanted one before, and now that I’ve seen one wheelie I know I NEED one lmao. The price is right, I kinda like the carburetor because of tuning and upgrading potential. Coupled with a better exhaust would probably give it just that little bit more pep! Excellent video
I'm tiny 120 lbs everyday I ride to work on my Electra glide and there is a huge guy that takes the same route on his little navi. I love sitting next to him at the lights, bet most folks round here think we know each other but we don't.
I love the beer measurement. Apparently a Navi is built for getting loaded and scootin' around.
Lmao
Buying one of theses for my wife's first vehicle, gonna teach her side by side on my Honda magna 750
Another fun and informative Daily Rider! Zack is one helluva ambassador for the moto community and a joy to watch (as is his bud Ari). When I get that new episode notification during the day, I know exactly what I'm casting to the big screen that night.
Great review Zack! If I had this bike the first thing I'd do to it is disconnecting the rear break from the front drum.
One cable on each break is enough and then I'd skid every corner between wheelies 😅
It's pretty cool that the Navi costs less than my exhaust system.
Lmao
This man is the Garand Thumb of the motorcycle world!
As long as you ride it every day (or at least every other day) the carbs will be fine...
And make sure to winterize the fuel tank in the off season 👍
Or use Ethanol-free gasoline.
Zack, This was a fun review. I have watched and enjoyed every Daily Rider review and this one just underscores your versatility, enthusiasm and completeness as a reviewer and motorcyclist Thanks to you and RevZilla!
Now that was fun. Thanks Zack! The wheelie was epic 😎.
I really enjoy the smaller bikes and daily a Kymco Spade 150 these days. Even took it on a 1200 mile trip from Oregon to Idaho and back last September. I guess you just have to have the right (or wrong) mindset and it's a blast.
I had to start my week using my FZ6 and didn't realize how much I missed the Spade until I used it Thursday. I always plan on having a big boy bike as well as a small one, but see myself going for the small one most of the time.
Zack needs to Daily Rider a Pacific Coast. It would crush.
I feel like this is than answer to HS/LS's question: "Can a motorcycle be too cheap". To me it is, when Honda also makes the CB125F, barely more expensive, but fuel injected, ABS and full size. Much more range, better fuel economy, more comfort and a bit safer. And in my opinion, also better to teach someone new to motorcycles, thanks to the bigger wheels, it won't be as sensitive to rider movement.
Just a personal opinion.
Maybe if you are in a country where they sell the CB125F. Don't have them in USA.
Yep, closest USA model in price is the Metropolitan which is physically smaller and 50cc and $700 more expensive or 1.38 times more expensive then the Navi
@@Damiv Too bad, because it's a great cheap bike.
$1800 is such a great price point to get into riding. I’ve been riding for a while now and would love to add one of these to the lineup. Such a cool little bike.
The amount of laughs and joy in this video should already sold the little Navi
Funny thing is I'm in India currently where they stopped selling this bike, but recently met a guy who has one, run 800 km only and in very new condition, gonna get it for 40K INR and gonna enjoy this amazing monkey bike 😁👍
Tough to give a fair review of a scooter-ish bike. Good job. The issue with the carbs rather than fuel injection is the ethanol will make learning to clean carbs a must. With the gas companies gouging us now there is more of a need for this bike than what Lemmy has opined.
Right, I’m pulling my rebel 250 out of storage because I can’t pay 4.50 a gal for gas in Oregon daily driving my truck
My Honda Monkey gets 110 mpg and i weight 195 # .
@@jacobpie3692 I like the old Rebels over the new.
Im looking for a Grom and everywhere i look around me only has the Navi in stock so i had to watch this review. I'm actually kinda surprised by it and watching someone who has rode basically every bike out there have fun on this thing has to say something.
Great and informative review. I'm a non-biking novice. 53 years old and I have two experiences with bikes. First was a Yahama two stroke something (not a dirt bike) that I was thinking of buying around age 17. Although I drove a clutch every day in my Beetle I managed to pop and over throttle it and stood it up on its back tire and almost over onto me. Next in my early 20s a friend had a Rebel he let me drive a little and it had something wrong with it so it would top out about 45 MPH and I found that intimidating while getting tailgated by a 1970s Impala. So...I've just suppressed any bike interest over the past 30 or so years. But these fuel prices have me thinking about one again to get better fuel mileage than my NA Miata. The Ruckus was the first thing that came to mind but then I discovered the Navi and I'm getting a bad case of the wants.
Did you buy it?
@@AshRinNice no. I've tabled getting into a bike for now. Too much other stuff on my plate.
My youngling sibling expressed their interest in wanting to ride but as not a rider myself I lean to something like this. It's nice to see Zack speak highly of one but I still worry about being crushed by trucks, pickups, and crossovers.
I would still like to see you do a 650 maxi as a daily rider. i love that thing as a fun appliance.
@Kattrap Thats what I have. an 07 burger that I got for 2500$. ride it 4x as much as the goldwing.
I love that you have the beginners in mind. I was looking at rebel 500’s and cb1000r’s but I bought one because it is so portable and convenient. I use it for my trips to the Smokey’s. It’s a fun little cruiser. Also this day in age that 100+ mpg makes me not worry about riding it.
In the Philippine, we have that in almost all new Honda scooter
called Combi Brake but disk in front drum at Rear
Scooters are good for beginners gate way on moto touring
I use Honda Click and Beat
Straight out of the box, Honda NAVI is also a capable off roader. It can handle any dirt roads
I just went to my local Dallas Honda dealer. It's wide, wider to me than a grom or monkey but livable. The only thing that threw me off was while the MSRP is $1899 the dealer wanted close to $3100 out the door including 500 in assembly. My thinking is while it's inexpensive and built to a price NFW would I pay the out the door price for having a good vibe about a 1yr warranty
It’s like a modern day cub c-50! Love it