Test Driving the New $1,800 Honda Navi
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I think the main selling point for this bike is the little compartment where I can put my sandwiches and chicken tendies in.
Some words of wisdom: let your light So shine before men,that they may see your good works, and glorify your father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:16 be blessed ride safe my brother.
@JOIN US Dope and doll head collection ? Shit, I’m gunna stash my guns and heroin in there
Never leave a tendie behind!
Two 32 Oz. MSR fuel bottles, also, as .9 gallons sounds a bit underwhelming.
Honestly, it’s a great lunch locker for work and school haha. And a great commuter it seems.
I remember when I was 18, walking past a motorcycle shop and seeing a new yamaha mint 50cc scooter for $1200, or $200 deposit and $100 a month, I was paying more than that in bus fares to get to work every week, so I bought it, it cost $3 to fill and did 120km to a tank, best thing I ever bought.....
do you know if you could get the Navi restricted to 50cc's?
i had a honda ct 90 i bought for $250 when i was 18 in 1980, rode it in the snow, and everybody gave me crap about it, but it was fun. that bike never let me down❣️
Before I owned a car or motorcycle 🏍️ I used to take the bus or train to work and the weather was agreeable I rode my mountain bike. Those monthly passes and hassle catching the bus or train Got old and said I need my own transportation. Drawbacks to it though is gas repairs plates/stickers. Upside freedom to go and come as you please.
How old are you now
@@XehanorteditsI'm 55 now....37 years ago 1987 that would have been....
This is basically like a Honda Fit but in motorcycle form. Cheap, simple, reliable, practical, and very cute. Does the job well without complaints and looks good while at it
A Fit will cruise effortlessly at 70mph. How is that comparable?
@@kevinnielsen1356yeah, obviously, it's a car. Even my 1.2l, 80 hp Hyundai could cruise at 70 mph. He's saying they both serve their purpose nicely
@@kevinnielsen1356he means it's small, practical and affordable. no frills but it runs.
@@kevinnielsen1356bruh lol
I love the highway run. Out of gas, streamlining to get to 55mph. So great. Can't believe you took it on the highway!
in Canada, those are not highway legal.
@@VinnyVinceViper neither in the US 😂
I can't believe he ran outa gas on a machine that gets 100mpg !
I take my Metropolitan on the highway all the time.
Here in Connecticut you need anything bigger than a 200cc to be on a highway.
Pro tip: New brakes can take up to 100-300 miles to break in, before getting full stopping power. Drum brakes can take longer. Really wish reviewers would learn this and stop mentioning weak brakes on new bikes
Thank you for teaching me something new 💪
Boom!
very true, my 1979 Yamaha DT with well broken in drum brakes stops basically the same as my hydraulic disc brake rm250
Weird my bike had the most crazy touchy brakes right off the lot that they've ever been.
@@TheJusnic82 Yeahhhhh I agree JayJ disc breaks don't take hundreds of miles to "wear in" in any of my experience. they are aligned and work perfectly from the moment I torque them back into place. After time you get less pad and uneven wear so sorry David not following the logic on disc breaks.
It was actually decently priced in India but we had a lot more options in the same price bracket. Honda here sells Honda Activa with the same engine but in an actual scooter. That made more sense to most of the people. Honda Activa is one of the highest selling 2 wheeler in India. For people who want motorbikes, we have likes of Hero, TVS(Indian Brands) who sell full size motorcycles with fi engines for only 100-200$ more. Navi was in the middle of these categories and just couldn’t fit into either. Hopefully it will catch on in US market.
Yup, the problem is, it's impossible to put a case of beer between your feet. A 6 pack isn't enough beer for everybody!!!!
it will catch on in... Seattle and San Francisco, the end. lol.
I can understand the looks would be a detractoror in India. The Navi is cool but does not have that heritage Enfield classic look that is so fondly desired in India.
@@TheOverisel I've ridden the navi once and got a lot of funny looks. Not the kind of admiring ones that i got when i was on the continental on release. Just people thinking i look dumb
It will do good in North America, everybody looks down on people that ride scooters no matter how fast/luxurious/smart they are ( Suzuki Burgman) in India they compare it to the same bike that has wind protection for legs on a cold day and it's a no brainer decision.
The price (under $2K), simplicity (no clutch or shifting), and practicality (storage and passenger seat) are the three things that are steering me towards buying this over a more “traditional” Grom or Monkey as a first time motorcycle.
If you live in California you will be paying like 3500 for this motorcycle.
@@Darklord-mq6ex why is that
@@onegwest I live in jersey and the out-the-door price is $3,255.00...
@@amandamolina8547 i live in TN and its 1807 then taxes and the rest bring it to around 2500. Not bad.
Yes sir, that's what I'm looking for too !
This bike really didn't seem like a possibility for me until you said it has a 100cc engine. That was when a light bulb came on in my head because many decades ago I started riding motorcycles on a 90cc Honda and actually had great fun with that bike. I would agree that 50cc scooters have very limited power but when you jump up to 100cc, that is a significant improvement. I now think that I could actually make use of a bike like this if I needed to. I would also like to compliment you on your sense of humor. You have a gift for being very funny and family friendly at the same time. The scripture reading is great and you fit that in very well too. You are a good reviewer of motorcycles and a good soul too. Thanks for the great video.
I wish Honda would make a 100cc scooter, like a beefier metropolitan
On a beginners bike I don't have a problem with weak brakes. It keeps the new rider from grabbing a handful of front brake and crashing. For this class of bike, it's almost perfect imo.
But are the Navi brakes really that bad? These testers are accustomed to riding bikes that cost 10-20 and 30 thousand dollars. I believe the Navis brakes and options (or lack of options) is appropriate for its price.
Having suffered from the same, Grab a handful of Front brake on morning dew, I thought the same thing !
Some of us learned the hard way !
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Don't have a problem with weak brakes lol!
It's a problem when some idiot pulls out in front of you unexpectedly and you rear-end him, having a really bad day because of crap brakes.
No mention that bike only had 50 miles on the odo. Brakes may improve if they're properly bedded in. Nevertheless I agree that brakes that don't lock up too easily are better for beginners.
The irony of saying this thing can run forever on a tank of gas and then running out mid video! Love the content Sean! 😂
haha, yeah, he did say he rode it for 2 hrs before that and I think the day before, so I really wonder how many miles (and how much gas was in the tank) he drove before the video to run out...
@@Quesar672 pretty sure they probably didn’t refuel it after him and Craig rode them like an hour and a half
@@madhatterentmt6146 alot of the dudes who pre ordered these are complaining on the forums because the carbs, they're getting like half the mpg they should
@@barryallen5507 Ik I’ve heard that’s why I bought something else
@@barryallen5507 Does the carb only affect the mpg? Because if so, I may start looking for people who bought one but are selling them because of that issue. I am small and lightweight so I doubt the difference in MPG will be as big of an issue for me. Even if it is somehow a problem, It will still do better for long distances than my current "vehicle"
I've Honda Navi from 2016 in India. Still works amazing. It's not comfortable though. It was one of the cheapest auto gear motorcycle in India back thn. And in India Navi means new... it cost around 800 USD back in 2016.
i bought my navi in 2016 around 580 dollar
@@whatever45892 cool!
What is your profile name oh my.... how one could eat such combinations 😭
I'm moving down to South Carolina soon and could see me picking one of these up pretty quick. I've never ridden anything faster than the ebikes I used to rent, but this looks like the perfect start point for someone like me. Thanks for the video!
Welcome to South Carolina Buddy.Movecf out of New York 1992
Myrtle Beach baby! I'm coming soon
i live in columbia!
@@andrewhunter8928 I hope you like high crime, drugs, and gangs. if you are moving to SC move to the Greenville area.
Just a vacation, would never move there
I have one of these that I use in India. Had it a few years now and it’s never let me down. Great fun to ride and cooler looking than a scooty. Ride safe guys. 🙏🇮🇳👍
Ur new shoes are still slippery. ..
Don't you need good brakes for India trafic?
@@jupitercyclops6521no just go faster
How many stolen gift cards to buy?
My first bike was a 1969 CT-70.. When I was 16 I jumped it over 7 truck tires.. cleared em' easy.. broke the whole rear end out of the little thing :)
reminds me of my Honda Express back in the 80's - since it was .49cc just a regular permit was all that was required for 14 and up. We rode those things everywhere in Iowa including gravel roads, motorcycle trails, and ice racing them in the winter. Most of ours were modified to hit mid-upper 30's
I had an express as my first. I hadn't planned on hwy riding it until my car broke down. Then I rode it 60 miles a day on a Texas hwy.
little bikes are a riot! when i was 17 (now 61) i had an old '60's honda ct90 i used to ride to my job as a waiter. i've never had so much fun! it was a gas. customers and coworkers used to joke with me about it, but i never cared. i've been riding liter class bmw's ever since, but i'm getting old now, and am looking at small bikes again.
Thats insane your first bike was a Garelli too
When I was 14 I got a 1985 Garelli Basic for $300, rode it all over town to high school and back and it taught me everything I needed to know about bike maintenance. Still got it today and it's still kickin ten years later
I had a 77 Garelli SS I restored a few years ago. Fun little thing, even if it was a bit cranky.
did you need a permit or anything?
My first bike (a 94 TW200) had front and rear drum brakes. Loved that bike.
Mine was a 73 Honda XL 125 also drums all around. Ride that thing daily from age 12 till 18 when I got my endorsement. I recall blisters from where the side of your finger and thumb rubs the throttle. Lol
Death trap
Yes bikes that top out around 60mph(and are not raced) don't really need alot of brakes
Mine was a 1978 Yamaha RD125DX.
I think its crazy the price of a new tw200, last i checked over 4500 Msrp!? The bike is ancient compared to the drz which is saying something! And wasnt able to find any reasonable used deals last i checked.
I watched your video Wednesday and my wife has been looking for an automatic bike to get comfortable riding on. Stopped in to the Honda dealership Thursday she looked at it sat on one and
We just picked her navi up Friday 😁. Awesome little bike.
Yep I'm in love with this bike. I'm only 130 and 5'10 so this is an awesome choice for me. I can fit my work stuff in the storage compartment. I have everything I need to ride it except almost enough money to afford buy one. But it will be winter by then.
We have the exact same build
I feel you showed perfectly why this bike is carbureted aside from cost. Say you have a new rider, little to no experience, and they are supposed to play the guessing game with their fuel level. The ability to switch to reserve is the difference between a walking and riding to the next gas station.
If it was fuel injected you would just switch to reserve and restart it. What does that have to do with carburetors?
It has been available in Guatemala and Latin America for years,but here it competes with a ton of other small motos. Interesting that honda decided to put the brake on the footrest unlike the navis everywhere else
I can easily say that if i was in college this is the kinda thing ide want to get me across town, with that fuel efficiency and simplicity it really seems to work for anyone who isnt allready an established bike person.
now that its warming up outside my little navi speeds up faster even able to hit 55 mph a few times I had to tighten my brakes witch is super easy getting a universal windshield helps alot !! also always keep a gas bottle filled up for those longer trips
I could totally see this bike coming in handy for people taking them in rvs camping, cruising around camp sites and going to local stores while camping. My electric bicycle was twice the price as this bike so it’s a great price! Don’t think I would want to be seen on it daily driving or anything.
It's belt driven CVT with roller variators. It's a bigger version of the Honda Express SR and Spree 50cc scooters going back to the 80s. Air cooled, cvt, kickstart and all.
That's what I was gonna say. I had an '87 Spree back in the 90s and I rode it *everywhere*.
Grew up in Harrisburg :)
Love watching you ride around in PA! Definitely makes me homesick.
Looking forward to future videos from you.
God bless.
I just bought one as my main transportation for my house in colombia. Because of the lower speeds and road conditions its perfect. 70 miles to the tank, good storage, and simple. Worth all of it. I bought a 2024 last week 3/18/24 and got it for 1800 out the door
This is a spin off on the most successful scooter in India
The Activa 110...
It's actually pretty great to ride..smooth efficient and cheap to maintain
Honda wanted to give the non bike riders to get a feel who didn't really like to ride scooters..
This is also highly customisable..
Unfortunately this lost out a bit on practical ity like underseat and front leg storage..
Indian buyers still preferred an Activa over this
My favorite part of videos are your scripture readings. Thank you for adding that. You do any amazing job with your reviews. Not only do I enjoy your videos, I learn from them as well.
I just bought a Navi a few weeks ago. I absolutely love it. It's the whole thing of perception of 'speed' without any real 'speed'. With it's small size, surprising 0-30 punch, and just getting to wring it out all day, it 'feels' fast while keeping you out of trouble.
Beardman, can totally relate to the moped. I had a 1982 Motobecane and it truly was the first taste of independence back in 1983. I remember taking a 45 mile trip on it from my house to my Grandmother's house....total freedom
Nice little scooter, I had a 1983 Honda C90 cub that was my go-to work bike, that was a good reliable little bike, From what I saw the Navi is on par with that, Easy rider and economical. My old C90 was a lot faster though I could get 70 out of that on the flat, not too bad really. Anyway thanks for the video.
Thank you for recognizing it’s a scooter. So many cucks calling it a motocycle.
The power sport store that sells Honda motorcycle appears to have a monopoly on Honda motorcycles in the USA , Monopoly is illegal in the USA!!
I just bought one! I’m picking it up this weekend
I’m about to buy one. Looks like fun.
congrats! I will eventually get one myself. another bonus not mentioned is I bet the insurance is a joke to pay. my suzuki boulevard is $84 a year.
@@DerfLlennod lol yes, the insurance was $98/year 🤪
THANKS FOR TUCKING DOWN TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCE AT TOP SPEED ! I was really hoping you would do that !!👍👍👍👍
I just wanna say, I don't own a motorcycle, but I own several classic tomos mopeds and love them. No interest in getting a real bike, but I love your channel. Watch your videos all the time. Keep killin it
Love your content bro... the original scooter version of it is HONDA ZOOMER which is quite popular in THAILAND (and indonesia), it was brought to india as a entry level motorcycle with this small gimmick of making it look like a motorbike which is more appealing for young men in india
. Ofcourse now india is owned by electric scooters and some more 150cc ones too.
Love this video - well done! I have a Grom and was thinking of a Navi for my wife. And thanks for speaking scripture into this! Love to hear that!
Thanx, now can I claim it? C.T.
Grom rocks.
Had a 50cc Honda spree, then the elete e also 50cc back in 94/95. Great to learn. 35mph easy. Then went on from there. Fun times!
it's good that this moped has a carburetor because from the outside it looks like it has a GY6 engine which is a classic scooter engine known all over the world so there are a lot of tuning parts for it like a 200cc kit so you can set the right ratio with the carburetor when making these tunings
I owned this bike when it first came out in India. Trust me!! This bike can carry good amount of load atleast 180Kgs + rider. Intercity bike with fuel tank around 3.18 lit capacity.
Honda should consider it's electric version
I started riding in 1966 and Love the NAVI....! I'd like to see a 200cc or 250cc bigger version of it with more storage, more fuel, a front disc brake and 80mph speed for our interstates! Having storage w/o saddlebag width is great. After-marketers need to design an approved gas can for the Navi storage compartment...
It’s trash. I’m tempted to light mine on fire
You'd go 80 mph on that?
1800 $ maybe the price before the last amrican salesman gets his hand on it , the Navi Honda is twice the price ,the buyers get sodomized!!
@@zapazoid Trash? What were you expecting for 1800 brand new? Maybe you have gotten the grom?
Why bother with a bigger Navi that does 80mph. Just buy a bigger motorcycle.
Man I really enjoyed this video Shawn, excellent vlog and God bless you my friend ❤️
I love your words of wisdom, Brother. I like the navi, too! Still thinking about getting one!
I love to watch reviews on different motorcycles,just to watch;Can't ride a bike here in San Antonio,TOO risky.Lotta road rage.
I see the first mod for this bike to be like to put a battery instead of the storage box and hub motor to the front, and you will get yourself nice and powerful hybrid bike.
Old comment, but this is brilliant. I might just try this as i have a front hub motor kit sitting unboxed and possibly picking up a used Navi for under 1500.. front hub motor would be 3000w paired with a 60v battery. Would be nuts, just have to figure out the fork situation for mounting up the wheel
In Mumbai some dealer gave the Navi free along with CBR250s to help clear old inventory before new emission norms took to force. This was when BS3 was transioning to BS4 emission norms.
Way to go Honda 👏 🙌 thanks for the video it was very well spoken , precise and to the point 👍
Me and my son bought this bike 2 months ago. With gas prices now I try to ride this anytime I have errands around town or even a bag of groceries in the storage compartment.I am 240 pounds and have got this little bike up to 55 mph. It’s a fun inexpensive bike that gets great gas mileage..Most compliments I get for this bike has been from women and how cute the bike is and they want one….
Are your brakes as bad? Or was this a new bike that needed bedding in?
@@thebrowns5337 To start they are drum brakes and definitely aren't the stopping power of disc but with that said you get used to them and just have to apply more brake pressure than you would with disc. Also the bikes aren't going that fast to begin with. The brakes are adequate,not a deal breaker.
The brake shoes in those drums will probably last the life of the bike
had this year ago ...had so much fun with this bike 👌
This thing is like perfect for doing door dash. You just stick the food in that compartment. Plus it might even keep the food warm since it's right next to the engine!
These are super cool and I’d love one for camping and just an extra fun bike to have around for the family. My only thing is since it’s over 50cc it’s technically a motorcycle and I’d have to have it plated and insured. Which I’d rather not deal with for a bike I’d use at campgrounds more.
Just tell people it’s 50cc
Just get a motorized bicycle kit, legal in a lot of states and they're like $120 (takes about 30 minutes to 2 hours depending how incompetent or tool-less you are), slap that on a thrift store bike and go! Personally those 2 stroke kits are terrible (horrible fuel economy, I'm talking like 40-50 mpg compared to 250 mpg on my own custom 2 stroke motorized bike), but they are so cheap and simple that even a monkey or small child can assemble one that its hard not to just recommend them. If you end up hating it (they are severely low power, also the exhaust restricts it by about 25% of its speed), then you can just give it to a kid that likes to tinker on engines and they'll have fun fixing it if you break it (and the CDI ignition packs are terrible, along with the magneto, but its like a $10 fix when it happens). Also I think the clutch engagement pads are some sort of rubber excess from a shoe factory, so you can honestly fix these things with old tennis shoes when parts do wear out.
Again not great, but the entire engine kit probably costs the same as JUST the tag or insurance. Even 20 mph is plenty fast for most campgrounds (that's about what they do), so I mean its trash but its fun trash. Also the 66cc (marketed as 80cc) looks the exact same as the 49cc kit so nobody will probably care (its not exactly a high performance chainsaw engine, its actually lower performance than antique 2 cycle push mowers, but I mean it goes bang and moves you around so if you're not racing then who cares)
hit grandma walking the dog at the camp, insurance might save your A$$ and cost for 1 year is chump change. license plate, you will want to get on the road somewhere.
Get an off road registration instead.
Wow definitely had more top end than I expected, now try to find a new Honda rebel 1100 to test and give your thoughts on it!
This is by far my favorite video you have done..
My respect.. you got it up to 55mph.. the elite 50 won't do 32mph.. lol...
Thanks for the honest review, I'm 61yrs, 150lbs and just need to get around a small town in stealing-Person's Economy. Now I will hunt for a trailer for scooters/small bikes. Thanks again!
Thanks for the vid!! I was thinking about getting a Navi but was really really hoping I could afford the Super Cub 125. Unfortunately it doesn't look like I'll be able to get a Super Cub... (they claim 188 mpg).
Price mark up on these is crazy right now
MSRP $1,807
Shipping+Freight $300
Was quoted from my Honda dealer an extra $600 “DMV fees”.
$500 “Market adjustment”.
$500 “Labor charge” when it gets put together at the dealer. Crazy. Looks like a fun bike though.
Thats what all new bike costs entail. The only rip off in there is the “market adjustment” that can be haggled off the total, but the Dmv fee and new bike setup is part of buying a new bike
@@revmatchproductions not really. A good handful of people are walking out the door from the dealer after paying about $2500. Which leaves a couple hundred dollar profit for the dealer which is understandable. The Honda Navi is already set up from the factory so charging someone 4 hours of shop labor to essentially put in a battery is pretty ridiculous. DMV fees do not cost $600. I’ve bought many bikes/cars new/used from dealers and usually those costs come to around $300.
Yup the dealer is charging you an extra ___$ just to put the handle bars and battery on. It's already joe schmoes job to do that all day.
That is ridiculous. The NAVI come two to a crate and are basically fully assembled. Put on the mirrors, put acid in the battery and charge it, check the oil, tire air pressure and put gas in it. That is the full set up on the NAVI.
We live in a largish town in Colorado, we ordered one of the first two NAVIs that came into our dealer, ours was $2471 OTD with all fees, freight and taxes. I hear a lot of folks talking about the ridiculous OTD prices with the mark ups and fees many dealers are charging. The answer to the outrageous prices is for everyone to just refuse to buy the product from dealers that want to have those business practices.
@@MrBrandonbomb dude DMV 'processing' fees are such a ripoff in this day and age. Its a couple minute process on a computer and dealerships around me charge up to 1k for it and its unregulated in VA
I like the bike, I like the review. It is very refreshing to hear someone who can talk for 14:30 and not use the F word 40 times. Subbed. On the braking thing, they will get better with use, secondly I really don't think drum breaks would be cheaper. Probably intended to last a long time with no service.
Man this dope! I was thinking of picking one up I love so close to work (maybe only 8 - 10 blocks away) it’ll be better than taking the truck I have.
Honda had their 1979 motocross bikes made in Mexico (CR Red rocket models) and they were very reliable bikes. So hopefully these are too 🙏
The least trouble with this bike is that it is made in Mexico.
Honestly anything I've got that's been assembled in Mexico has been a great product. Never had any issues with them.
I daily this bike and I got to stay I love it. The storage compartment is enough to take my books to class (45 mins away) and enough to get groceries. Wish it went just a little faster or had a bigger gas tank but overall it's the most fun I've ever had going the speed limit
Great video! Loved your style of humour, clear voice, rhythm and edition.
Just a comment: it is not made in Mexico but rather assembled in my homeland. The whole parts arrive to the state Jalisco from India :)
Small bikes aren’t just for beginners. I use my 50 cc Genuine Buddy scooter for trips to the grocery store. It can carry a week’s worth of groceries at 45 mph and 100 miles per gallon for the 15 miles to the store and back. I can’t do that as well, or as cheaply, with my Vulcan 900! As gas keeps heading north towards $10 per gallon, bikes like the Navi are going to start looking might attractive to even experienced riders!
I'd like to see this with a pipe change and rejet. And see about sourcing brakes from different models. It seems that with just a cpl standard upgrades that this would be a ideal city/back of the rv bike.
Looks like the same Honda Navi which I am using in India since 2017 (except the fuel mater, different speedometer) 😇
OMG, its like a 1970s Honda Trail 70, but bigger, modern, and for an adult. I had a Trail 70 as my first bike as a teen ager. So many hundreds of hours of fun, even if just buzzing around the lg yard we had for many of those riding hours.
loved yr enthusiasm - fun to watch
The honda nighthawk cb250 had a front drum brake up until 2008 in the US.
With gas prices touching the sky, it's one of the best choices. It takes you from A to B, looks fine, works fine and has some storage.
Your not kidding. I driving my car less this summer and rode my motorcycle to work. Gas has gotten so expensive that it took me a month to fill up my gas tank in my car. Concerned about the non riding seasons where I have no choice but to drive. I live in a rural area no public transportation. Forget Uber or Lyft did that when I was without a car for two weeks it costed as much as the average car payment.
@@billpirillis9961 it would make much more sense for you to either get this or a scooter if you have a place to live. I am from India so having a car here is known as a bit of luxury. The amount of bikes and scooters are unreal. And it is honestly much better mode of transport even for habitual car drivers at least for upto 100 kilometres
@@rohanbatra69 agree. I live in a cold weather climate. Even a bicycle ride can be brutal in the winter. If things get the way they are I may have to bundle up and pedal to work. Lol 🤣😂 temps in the Midwest of united States do get to -15 to -24 degrees so maybe carry a portable heater if one exist.
Nothing was better than my Honda Chappy at 14 I felt like Nothing could stop me! I was always smiling riding to the beach ⛱️
What's interesting to me is all that extra storage space...for batteries. With a large battery and a 72v front hub stator motor, That would dramatically increase torque as a hybrid. Something crazy to think about.
I don't know why China and other countries of manufacture don't knock off the 2004 MotorHispania RX50/Aprilia RS50
I have one and they're awesome My 50cc is a full size (9/10 scale) and people always mistake it for a full size crotch rocket. It weighs around 265 pounds, 2 stroke liquid cooled with 5 gears and a wet clutch. It goes 65mph top speed and is very fast to 45mph, very fun to bang through the gears.
To me it's the epitome of mopeds, I ride mine all over and it's an attention getter for sure-everyone always tries to buy it off me. I've ridden the 125cc version and that one goes 90mph!
Anyway, great videos-big thumbs up on all of them
Because 2 stroke.
@@16driver16 I had thought of that, but even with a crappy 70/90/140 china motor it would be a huge seller just on how it looks. Most they'd have to modify is adding a fan to assist air cooling. I've seen those other scaled Chinese crotch rockets, they're cool and all but just look weird with the engine hanging out the back.
@@ProlificInvention I don't think you can sell them as road bikes in the US because 2 strokes and emissions.
@@jakegarrett8109 Yes, I've heard that.. but the engine is only one feature of this bike which could easily be swapped with a Chinese 70/90/110/140 engine and the fact it looks identical to a full size crotch rocket alone (9/10 scale anyway) would make it a huge seller I believe. I've seen Chinese versions already manufactured but the engine placement lends to an ugly design.
@@ProlificInvention people just in general aren’t interested in sub60 motorcycle in the states I think maybe like sub 70
The scooter in which the Navi is based is the Honda Dio 110 which is sold in Mexico, at least. You can see in the datasheet that they are technically identical.
I rode a Dio 2 months ago and was super disappointed at how slow it is. The PCX which has only 15cc more feels like a rocket by comparison.
My 1982 yamaha xt550 had drum brakes front and rear. Changed the front with disk brake of course.
I owned navi for couple of years its has excellent handling its small and nimble hope it does well in USA
This Navi has a belt drive from clutch to final drive.👍
thanks for making this clear.
I think the logic behind him saying 'this doesn't have belt or chains' is _the belt is part of a transmission_
I live in mexico and these bikes are EVERYWHERE, literally everywhere! You see them in every single color and scheme you can imagine- bull bars and stickers on everything. I have seen full families of four on these things speeding through traffic lights.
I am a combo rider of motos & scoots...a l8festyle choice I made last year was to have only a scoot since my recreational riding reduced to almost nothing and practicality riding took over; my choice in platforms wasn't the best...a 50cc 2-stroke scoot (love the Genuine Scooter Company products & they still have 2-strokes in their lineup); wish I knew the Navi existed before I grabbed the 2-stroke (Genuine Roughhouse)
Check out the HONDA MB5! A screamer of a 50cc bike!
This would be a great vehicle for soldiers to get around on base. Saves money, will take you to from point A to point B and for 1.8k you really can’t argue with that
We have a NAVI and a Super Cub and MT-07. The NAVI is a great relaxed, easy to ride around town bike. The NAVI is very easy for anyone to ride and is very unintimidating.
We live in a largish town in Colorado, we ordered one of the first two NAVIs that came into our dealer, ours was $2471 OTD with all fees, freight and taxes. I hear a lot of folks talking about the ridiculous OTD prices with the mark ups and fees many dealers are charging. The answer to the outrageous prices is for everyone to just refuse to buy the product from dealers that want to have those business practices.
@Stephanie Musick where did you purchase your Navi?
$2400!? That's a rip-off
@@teslaedison6236 it's better than NYC and Atlanta: $2900+ and $2800+ OTD
@@teslaedison6236 $1807.00 MSRP, 8.2% sales tax, $400 freight, this was with a $100 freight surcharge that Honda added, $75.00 dealer handling, $10.00 DMV fee. The dealership does not control tax and freight charges. Compared to the out the door prices that a lot of people are saying dealerships are asking for, I think we got a fair out the door price.
If you've ever watched Malcolm in the middle and saw the episode where his dad starts doing competitive speed walking... Them you know that you need one of those speed walking helmets for this to optimize speed
Well duh
That's such a great show. Time to rewatch it for the 15th time lol
Perfect reference for this video LOL
Haha
I just got a navi. I assumed they were like a unicorn. But I stopped at my local honda dealer, and they actually had one. So on the discover card it went. I'm a pretty short dude. I normally ride a vulcan 750. The navi sits a good bit higher. But so much fun in parking lot situations.
Loved the Grom video and nothing wrong with this one but the scooter 😂👍
The navi was in india since 2014, and ended production in 2020 pretty wild right! Remember if you guys want to upgrade that bad boy let us know we would love to work with you guys!
Where are you located, send me a website info thanks
I live in NE ohio and i was quoted 2900-3500 bucks otd before tax and title, its a shame cause I'd love to have one, for when I just want to putz around, but id rather just upgrade my daily if its going to cost me almost 4k for a glorified scooter.
Love the vids Sean, keep up the great work!
Find another dealer, I would hate to see the price of any bike from them if they are adding on that many fees.
That's nuts, that's what a Grom would cost, how much would a Grom be there
I also live in NE Ohio and I paid a little over $2300 after tax and title.
@@HifeMan i tried 2 dealers in ohio and 1 in PA and now they are all saying end of August delivered so I decided to just upgrade from my sporty to a roadking
@@Rancid_Ninja i agree sir, the grom they want 1k in fees for the one dealer i looked @ when I was eyeing a grom
Great video! Nice job!
Love the words of wisdom!! 🙏🏾
The problem with it being “the new moped” is that most states consider anything with more than 49.9cc of displacement to be a motorcycle. Some also require them to have functional pedals as well. At least nj did when I was 15. At that age, one could get a moped license, a full 18 months before one could drive a car. As a result, mopeds were popular in my town. I had one.. a tomos targa lx.. literally the only moped everyone had lol. But anyway.. this would be a motorcycle in most states. My current home of Colorado included. At that point, even if I was scared of the clutch and gears, I’d probably still opt for a 250-300cc scooter.
I bought a 150cc Chinese scooter and had to register it as a motorcycle in Texas because the engine was above 49cc.
@@allenvestal4474 I used to have a 150 cc Chinese schooter on a motorcycle chassis and needed a license and registration in Illinois. That bike could go 70 mph. Fun and easy to ride around but started falling apart.
Dealerships around me have it at like $3200 out the door with all fees and junk :( without extended warranty only factory warranty
They're similarly high here. I know the stealerships have to keep the lights on and all but the fees are insane. I'm going to wait and grab one used whenever I see one.
Freight alone here in Canada is C$635, making it C$3,000 before tax. For a bike that still needs a full license/gear, can't safely even go on country roads, absolutely no freeway... no ABS, short service intervals, tiny wheels... I think I'd rather a small second-hand bike for similar money. You can get a 2013 CBR500R for C$3,000 with ABS and it gets the same fuel economy if you ride it at the same speeds, but can go on any road or freeway.
The X-PRO Hawk DLX 250 EFI seems like a better alternative at 2150 shipped, though it's not scooter based so it's not for the population at large.
Thanks, I’ll probably get a grom after this video. My area is way hilly for the Navi.
Great video ! Thank you for the scriptures too, very encouraging.
tell them how much the crazy destination fee is on that bike. they're asking $3,800 out the door on a $1,800 motorcycle. it's a $2,000 destination
That’s scalping. I work for FedEx freight ltl. I did a pick up at a residential for c last moving from b Washington back to Samoa. 1800 lb for $600.
It’s a $200 destination……
@@sheshellsseasells that's a lie call your local dealer and ask him how much it is out the door
@@slowpoke97 I’am my local dealer 😂😂
@@sheshellsseasells how much is it out the door
The market is so messed up right now. I tried to get a Navi but all the shops I called didn't have any in stock or wanted $3k. They wanted $4500-5k for a new Grom. I ended up getting a used Grom with low miles for $3k. Hopefully prices get back closer to MSRP.
Thats the boat im in right now.
I've been trying to buy one and the closest I can find is like 6 hours away. if I get one it'll be my first bike so hoping things go well and they don't try to overcharge me.
@@abigaileileen3161 hope you find a good deal. If you're going for a Grom, a lot of people practice stunts on them so they can be rough. I wouldn't settle for a beat up one. I haven't rode a Navi but glad I went with a Grom for a little extra power. I'm 6'1" 230lbs.
@@thatonetime7514 thanks man, that's good to know. I've been looking for a Navi because it seems accessible for a first time rider, but was also looking at used groms since I've heard good things and there are a lot more available. I didn't know they tend to get beat so I'll keep a lookout for ones with lower mileage if I go that way. Thanks for the advice
My OTD price quote was 2400
Reminds me a bit of the Gilera DNA, which had an actual scooter engine and a variator transmission, twist and go :D but the frame of that thing looked way more like a motorcycle. And it was a tad more expensive.
love this video! thank you :)
The price point makes me wonder if they’re trying to make folks considering a 1500-2000 dollar electric bicycle to reconsider going gas motor.
frankly for just getting around town, I'd buy an e-bike before one of these.......no DMV. no insurance, no license, no gas stations
@@reelreeler8778 until you forget to charge the battery and then you're back to the car. Until they make swappable e-bike batteries or quick charge reasonable it will not be as convenient as a gas can in the shed.
Forget to charge the battery? Do you forget to put gas in your car? Classic boomer strawman right there.
Also, if you did forget to charge the battery you could still pedal to get back since it is a bicycle.
@@reelreeler8778 legislation is going to happen on e-bikes. The no insurance sounds great until you find out you homeowners or renters insurance doesn't cover motorized "vehicles" and if you crash into a pedestrian or a car you'll be paying out of pocket.
It was about $900 in India with registration and all paperworks included
Yep, and a Royal Enfield Himalayan is about $2100 in India, $5000 in the U.S. before any fees or taxes. Very different markets and pricing structures.
Apparently customers are not stupid in India. If it's not worth it they don't buy it.
Im thinking about buying one of these for the winter. I wanna keep my regular bike out of the snow.
and thats why i got a honda navi as my first bike, to learn to ride it and how it feels without having to also think about the clutch at first, i think the next bike i want to get is probably a svartpilen, but i have to save up for that