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MiniMoto Drag Race: Can The Cheapest Honda Navi Take On The Most Expensive Monkey?
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
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( tfl-studios.com/ ) The $1,800 Honda Navi is by far the least expensive MiniMoto in Honda's lineup, but how does the bike compare to the more premium (and more expensive) Monkey? Alex and Kase find out with a head-to-head comparison, including a drag race!
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Well, my 2cents...I've ridden big bikes my whole life and I am hooked on Hondas mini moto lineup. Have purchased the Monkey, Super Cub and 2 Navis. These things create something in me that can't explain. All the customizing ideas make these bikes awesome to own. Can't wipe the smile from my face!!! I'm still have a big bike but I never ride it?? Minimotos Rule!!!
how are your navis doing?
I gotta say, I just bought the Honda Navi is a very cool city mini bike, plus you can carry a passenger, and gets better mpg then the monkey.. great starter bike or just to have fun with. I've seen videos of people in Peru riding for 8 hours straight over mountain passes and no issues. great little bike.
Just got mine about a week ago as well. I live down in Miami and it’s great for the beach and college
I wish they would’ve made the Navi a little bigger and 125cc-150cc would’ve been perfect . Other than that a great option . Especially for those who aren’t acclimated with switching gears . Or don’t want the hassle
@@rickybobbydastar6534 i ran across a stock grom at a red light and we both booked it and it was only about a 6 feet gap between us and the other rider was approximately my height
@@Sweethustles interesting, how do u like the Navi ? I had a hawk 250cc , first bike, like I didn’t understand the choke at first , definitely fast but wish I got something a little smaller less powerful for a first bike
I have had my Navi in India since 2016. Done 10000 kms. I have driven it 300 km in 7 hours with one hour stop...carrying 70 kg luggage. Navi has never let me down. It may look dainty but is tough inside.
I bought my Navi in India in 2016 when it was launched. India never had the Monkey. I super satisfied. Navi has proved itself in very difficult driving conditions here.
Do you still have it? How's it held up after nearly a decade?
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Yes, I have my beloved Navi. Good as new. Perfect performance.
@@donaldbaxter4254 post a short we'd love to see it man I know I would
@@Enrique-peralta I have posted pics on NAVI groups in USA on FB. Too tedious to post on RUclips.
@@Enrique-peralta Ever tried SLOW COOKING IN EARTHEN POTS? The taste is divine because certain enzymes are developed only that way.
Navi is something like that...faster then a mule but slower then a horse.
Navi is made for FUN, not speed. Your body and senses are free to enjoy the ride which is INTUITIVE.
I just tell my RED RIDING HOOD where we wanna go and my baby does the rest. You reach in STYLE and get loads of envious eyeballs and open jaws.
Navi is getting the crazy love from the world, except India where it was developed and where I bought it in 2016. Now it is a prized item as Honda stopped making it here. Stupid decision!
Let Navi take you, like starship Enterprise, where you have never been before and you would steal some hearts enroute.
NAVI means NEW in India...and it is innovative in many ways...but it is NOT HARLEY or KTM or HAYABUSA. It is like a cuddly, cute puppy who think you are the world.
Sorry for being poetical and emotional...but that is how MOST Navi owners like me feel.
Just got my Canadian 🇨🇦 Navi just yesterday! Absolutely brilliant little machine! And bigger than I thought! Thank you Honda!
I own one of these things (navi)... along with a '21 MT-09. I got shit from all my riding buddies about it, but after they actually tried it they seem to understand the appeal. Easier to toss around NYC streets, fast enough to get yourself in trouble (25 MPH local speed limits), can toss it on the sidewalk so parking is a non-issue and can legally cross toll bridges/tunnels that e-bikes and the like can't do. There is a certain appeal of hooning around on a minimoto around a dense city then proceeding to park it on the sidewalk and grab a quick bite to eat (good luck doing that on a full sized motorcycle). Would a Grom/Monkey be even more fun? Maybe, but the Navi at half the price of either of those is a fun little diversion. Hell, I even took my 70 year old mom on a ride and she said it was fine.
I don’t need a monkey… I need a commuter bike to the train station, where I can swerve around side road traffic a bit, not needing to worry about shifting gears. I also have a compartment space to keep a rain jacket for when I return from my commute from work on the train in case it rains…. Navi has everything I need.
I’ll let my Livewire be the cool talking point motorcycle.
I don’t know why you say the Navi isn’t retro: The styling is very 1980’s, just needs a pop-up headlight.
Old harley guy from way back here. Bought a 22 goldwing this spring. Love it, just picked up a Navi couple days ago based on price alone. Otd cost was 2076.00, otd can't beat it. It's so much fun to ride. Just ordered the Vance Hines exhaust this morning, lol my dyna is gonna be jealous. Haven't ridden the goldwing since I got the Navi 28k vs 2k
I live in an urban city. For me, the Navi will do all my commuting and runabout needs. And I'm saving a lot over any other new minimoto. Can't wait til mine gets delivered.
How do you like it!
Same
Actually if you take the nav apart it has a traditional scooter frame
i have an idea lets rev the engine right on cold start.. prob why it doesnt like starting up
Honda Navi is meant to get more people into ridding motorcycle. no more no less.
I'm looking for one right now. I think it was a little unfair to not choke it properly on start. I mean its 1800 bucks. give it a break.
Either a great throw in back of truck while camping bike. But, I think I’d prefer a Trail 125.
Personally I would never ride a motorcycle if I had to use it manual. Navi is perfect for beginners and people who otherwise wouldn’t touch a motorcycle. It’s also not as intimidating or dangerous because there’s only so much trouble you can get in at lower speeds
Sounds EXACTLY like ANY older honda that I know. COLD blooded! Runs great when warm, as usual!
A better Comparison would have been the Navi and the Grom. Clearly that's where it's styling comes from.
The Monkey is based off of a 50cc mini bike from half a century ago, a better question is why is the MONKEY do small? Not why is the Navi so big.
Also, as to lack of clutch taking away from motorcycling; yes... But Honda has full size motorcycles with clutchless shifting too. So don't get too hung up on that.
Steering lock? Yeah that's where all motorcycles used to have them.
It really feels like you guys don't like the Navi and we're forced to do the video. There's a reason why the Navi is less than half the price of the Monkey/Grom.
The Navi needs to be reviewed on its own merits for what it is.
Also here in dfw they are marking the Navi’s up big time.
2:39 Did your rear wheel fall off, looks like that bolt is undoing itself
the bike was on center stand, and its an automatic so since they were not holding the brake the rear wheel was spinning under the engine revs.
I cant really bash on semi auto bikes anymore. They are actually much nicer offroad at low speed. If the gearing is low enough to not melt the clutch
Complaining about the dealer fees adding to the price of the bike is a fair complaint when basically the only positive to the bike is its price - as that seems to be the bike talking point of the machine.
It doesn’t help that the thing is from the stone age. I can forgive the carb, but not a front disk. For money that equates older, used sub-200cc, full-size starter bikes: it at least needs a front disk brake.
Let’s be honest, these were kicked off the subcontinent because they couldn’t pass tightening emissions and Honda still had the ability to manufacture more.
if you take the plastic off the Navi its a moped lol, I watched a motorcycle channel disassemble one, cant complain for the price!
Great video. Dealer in el centro ca is charging $1559 over MSRP plus $400 for shipping... Total price before taxes and registration almost $3800 for a $1800 moped..
An extra thousand spent towards a Royal Enfield Meteor 350 buys you 10,000% more bike.
You can buy a nice used Kawi Ninja 300 for the all in price of a Navi. That is not the point. I just sold my Ninja 300 and have a Monkey on order. I have owned a few dozen bikes over 40 years and I just want to try something new, cute and slower. I probably would prefer the Trail but they are not sold in Canada, neither is the Navi at present. Grom or Monkey only and Monkey is way cuter.
@Muslimcel I can't buy a Navi in Canada, new or used. I am not interested in going to the US to buy a bike. Happy to keep my business in Canada. I have enough that I can buy what I would like. I like the Monkey, gonna be a chick magnet, like a cute puppy.
And also royal enfield build quality ) :
Reminded me of 4s vs 2s snowmobile comparison. The extra gearbox and cold start. They've done some things with TBW too.
They release Navi on india 2015 price 755.35 usd
"much more premium dash" cuts to the barely visible lcd on the monkey.
Used Navi's are flooding the market. Picked one up for 1600. 2023 stock with 300 miles
Coming from a clutch I now prefer an Automatic…
Ill pay double if Honda brings out a Monkey Automatic…👌🏽🇺🇸🇯🇵
Getting Navi for that price, hard to believe its still Honda!
"It's not that cold"
Literal snow in the background.
case is in heat,he doesnt feel the cold
That's hard packed snow/ice from a storm. Sometimes it can take months to melt that at moderate temps. It can be 55 degrees out and that mound will still be there leaking. You must be from a warm climate state.
@@thechosen5805 I'm in Australia; even 55F is cold to me haha
I love my Navi but be careful riding it in heavy winds😐
😆 🤣 😂 " stop calling it the 1,800"
HEY, it's cheap. DAMN!!!!!!!! LET IT GO
The monkey is beautiful with a classic look and modern tech. Would choose it over the Navi or Grom.
I have a Grom and secretly wish it were a monkey because it reminds me of my childhood.
Ngl, fees are state by state. Seen videos of "Bought my Navi for 2200" but over here in shitville NJ its 3000 out the door.
Does the Monkey have a center stand?
Or KICK START? Another reason i might get a NAVI? What about the Super Cub?
Thanks!
The Navi looks like a mini 1st edition grom
I like the Monkey better, but I need a starter bike. So the Navi is probably better for me.
Also, at $1800 it's a winner.
Bruh the brakes are old but work fine.
That shit is slow as hell lol. I just bought one and it’s very fun but expensive thanks to the dealers 😞
Seriously considering the Navi. I work super close to home and can take the back roads. 50 miles an hour is more than I need for this commute and at $1800 I can just pay for it in cash
Weight of the bikes, and riders. And aerodynamics to take into account. And the skills of the riders, and how fast the bike can change gears via rider’s demand. And of course horsepower and torque
The Navi is a scooter. For sure. Nothing wrong with that but it just looks like a motorcycle while underneath is standard scooter design.
A sheep in wolf’s clothing, if you will.
They require a motorcycle license, motorcycle insurance policy , and an endorsement. They are much faster than scooters with 1/2 the engine size.
So. I largely agree. I kind of want a Navi. It is basically a scooter, but it's a scooter with foot pegs and you can grip the fuel tank with your knees and I'm really curious to try one and see how that feels.
More mini motos I want to see a road trip
How is the 2022 Dax 125 bike it looks very nice how fast does it go
Great to see Revzilla on board with you guys!!!! Good stuff!😎👍🏼👍🏼
I noticed pine trees and snow, are you guys at a relatively high altitude? I’m curious how the Navi does higher above sea level
Ordered a helmet yesterday, from RevZilla, for my 2022 Honda monkey I'm picking up Saturday😎🤘🏼
You can back off rear front brake effect and use park lever for low speed rear brake control. For city runner is good.
It is a brilliant move I agree with that it’s basically dressing up a sheep in wolves clothing. Takes away the American stigma against scooters I’ve never understood this I’ve traveled the world and love riding scooters I own several liter bikes and never understood the macho BS some guys try to portray. I love two wheels And they can be fun at under 50 miles an hour getting 100 miles to the gallon!
The Navi is a scooter not a bike
Used to have a Honda NC700x and I’m considering buying a navi just to run to work and to the racetrack that’s like 5 minutes from me
The navi is not 1800$ its closer to 2400$-2600$ depending on how much the dealer scalps you.
Yea mine out the door was 2661
@@joeroe2839 mine was 3500. Ridiculous
@@kurtmakeemhurt6657 they delayed mine again 2nd time and canceled the whole ordeal ..I ended up spending more but went w a venom Chinese bike a bit more but it's a full size bike 😩
I've been riding since 1973 and I can say that the Navi is the best bike I've ever had! I'm not interested in marginally better speed or features, the price for what you get can NOT be beat by any other bike on the planet! You can spot the Happy Honda riders by the bugs in their teeth! Twist, and Go Honda!
Nothing wrong with a carburetor…little Seafoam at every fill up and you’ll never have to touch the carb.
Just never leave ethanol in the carbs. If you're going to park a carbureted vehicle and not run it for a while, shut off the fuel and let it run the bowls empty. Or better yet, just run ethanol free gas.
@@crudboy12 Hmm, good tip there. Thanks brother!
Can of Seafoam ought to last a while, given that this bike takes just under a gallon of gas. 😂
That steering lock would definitely prevent someone from picking the bike up and throwing it in the back of a truck or van
Honda Navi vs Honda Elite 110
why do put the fuel off after a run on the Navi ?
For me the Navi is the number one because you can change the motor and run more fast
Even a 500cc motor
The guy efn with the cold Navi throttle is a dkk.
The Navi is an 1800 bike drive off the lot yes ya paid more but when it leaves lot it’s an 1800 dollar value
The Navi is made in Mexico and the Monkey is made in Asia. Navi's where sold in India for decades and they finally had to offer them for free with the sale of a new bike. The only thing going for the Navi is the price and that is to much. But, for those with not much money it is an option.
Always warm up bikes and keep the seals lasting long after your demise The Navi is amazing Rather have that all day
I bet with the right performance mods you could beat the monkey
I would go for the Navi if it was fuel injected, 125cc, and disk brakes. I don't mind paying a little more to get those updates.
That said, the new Grom is the better deal than the Navi and Monkey. You got for the Monkey for the styling and if you don't want plastic.
The Trail is the work horse 125 that Honda offers (not to us Canadians 🙄).
The Cub is the fashion Allstars, it's a great looking bike.
Having the budget, I would buy all of them. You don't have just an hammer in your tool box 😂👍
I’m in the market for a brand new bike. My only bike I owned was a 76 Kawasaki ke175. I would like to get a 200/250 enduro style bike. But I was also considering the monkey. Any way you could do 200/250 cc enduro comparison against the monkey.
I have an Enduro 250 and a monkey. If you're planning to do any trail riding, I'm sure the monkey could handle most of it, except for mud and rocks. The exhaust goes down really low and is the lowest part of the bike, so the Enduro is the clear choice for that. If you're just getting a bike to cruise on the streets, than monkey is the way to go. It's super comfortable, and a pleasure to ride. Can't say that about my klx250s because of the narrow and tall seat. I bought the monkey to mess around on, but after getting it, I fell in love with the bike so much, that I felt bad for reving it too high and getting it dirty. Everything is just so shiny and beautiful that I wanna keep it that way. I also installed rear foot pegs and it's so fun to have two people on that thing 😂. Not much space, but it's doable for small people. Good luck on your purchase
Why am I just now seeing this recommended to me
How about 125 Dax vs monkey ? Which one do you pick
They do have a 125cc Fi Navi. Navi is practical bike worth the price
im soo conflicted on buying the Grom or the Monkey 😭😭
😂🤣😂 First world problem your bike has a choke lever and you have to turn on your fuel. My Honda XL 500 on top of all that was kick starter only and had a decompression lever. I might also add there was no fuel injection back then either and my bike could be a real bitch to start.
IF I had to choose between the 2, the Monkey. I would leave the Navi at the dealership and buy an EV bike for around town for the price. And that is my 2 cents. :)
Definitely a scooter and the price reflects
My Zuma(og2stroke), and wolf rx50(bb80cc) have beaten both of these to 40 lol.
The Navi is a plastic fantastic baby, otherwise known as the P- FAN
Ill take the 125 with a real clutch and manual trans. Not to mention the infinitely better brakes and efi. You get what you pay for
how much does the dealer stack on the top????
The navi is retro , it looks like a honda sabre fron the 80’s
In 20 years someone will still love that Monkey and the Navi will be trash. The Navi reminds me of the old Evil Knievels STP wind up motorcycle toy from back in the day. Plus it's a freaking scooter. But I'd but an adventure bike for a little more as opposed to buying a Monkey. Only because highway Mike's are a thing here where I live. 90% of the time the Monkey would serve my purpose perfectly. But would lack that last 10%.
Navi ain't a bike... it's a scooter.
They require an endorsement, registration, and a motorcycle policy for them. They get over 50 mph and have more than twice the size engine of a Rukus or such.
Exactly not a 1800$ dollar bike
I don't consider the Navi as a mini moto. It is more of a scooter than motorcycle.
How cold degrees wise?
Life would sure be great if they could make groms 125 300 or 400. 125 is really only good for lifestyles in San Francisco
Just get a cb300r
Og grom for me:)
2022 vs 2021 Honda monkey PLZ
Navinfasst now
When it falls on its face,,, it's cold. Why try to rev it when it's cold? Common motor sense.
Who are these two kids?
I’ve been passing over the videos of these unknown individuals.
Where is Tommy and Ivan?
How about a introduction and some background or did I miss it between the fifteen different RUclips channel?
These two guys have been doing TFLbike since September 2020. They also work as the cameraman for other TFL channels.
Been a TLF fan for some time. I watch with my teenagers from time to time, and they like seeing guys closer to their age, keep up the good work guys.
This is the Bike channel. The two you speak of are on the car/truck channels
Videos keep showing $1807 that is not full price people don't when you get there dealer will ask you from $3200 to $4200 don't let them fool you
My dealership ripped me off for 3k on the Navi... Very pissed . Half tempted to sue..
You guys are hilarious
4.6.22 no war
Basically, you get what you pay for. Great review once again. I'm going to nominate you both for Knighthood. Not sure what Impact my nomination of you will have with the Queen but I'll try nonetheless. 👍👍👍
*hops on monkey, hits key, the millisecond it starts to fire, he goes WOT as fast as he can twist the throttle* oh yea, gee the monkey doesn't instantly run like it would if you let it actually warm up for a couple minutes, imagine that. smh
2:47 why did it die? seems like an unreliable bike if you ask me
high elevation.....cold start.... plus 4 strokes are always cold blooded. ever owned any?
honda, i love you! gift me one of these..
Btw... you cannot get a new Navi for under 3k.. impossible. Go ahead and try.
Not true. Mine was $2,570 total and I know of quite a few people who paid about the same or less
They are more on the coasts than the fly over states.
I just did yesterday with all the taxes and tags and dealer fees it was around 2600
you pay tax on it?
2664 in Conroe tx
This great
I have a 2019 Indian FTR1200. Expensive FUEL INJECTED bike. Even with an aftermarket tune I must let it warm up before I take off when the temp outside is below 60 degrees.
Navi is a scooter not a bike