I'm glad I got my 8320 about a year back for 120. There is basically no reason to buy an intel processor for gaming unless you absolutely hate your money. So enjoy spending double on your 4790s to gain 5 frames per second!
Kerrigan M true even on far cry 4 with the massive difference in the fps between the amd 8320 and the i7 the amd was still running above 60 fps and im ok with that....... pineapple
Lol... Fx8 CPUs can bottleneck a GTX 970. You may hit 80fps on a shitty fx8 but you will hit tons of FPS drops. Btw you can get a i5 and mobo for the same price of a fx8 and mobo because to achieve such high overclocks on these fx8s you need a high end mobo and high end CPU cooler to even keep,up with 4.5+ Ghz.
Maybe you are saving money in the beginning but you still using twice as much electricity power you have to pay for in the future so basically people who buy the i5 is saving money on electricity power.
+Kerrigan M it's depends on where in the world you live the electricity cost different all around the world!! Some places are cheap others are expensive and what kind of money you're making!!
definitely but make sure to oc to 4ghz+ very easy to do on those CPU. a ssd more ram or better gpu will net a much higher performance gain vs an i5 anyway
Niels __ exactly they are beasts at above 4ghz which is VERY easy to do. Then with the $200 saved by getting an AMD motherboard and CPU vs Intel I5 and Intel Motherboard you can get a 240GB ssd and 16gb of ram. Huge performance increase right there!
This CPU war is all about where the budget is limited at. If you happen to be a rich man/woman, then please go for Intel because to be honest, intel does rock in most of the game titles. However, if you are looking for the best performance/price ratio, then please go for AMD cpu because they are cheap and they are pretty competitive when it comes to gaming performance as well. I own AMD fx 8350, and I love how this perform when I'm gaming! I've also tested my system by changing the CPU and motherboard to Intel, and I must say that they are better in gaming, but at higher cost. So the bottom line is that, go for intel if you got money, or just go for AMD. pce
i own amd fx 1337 its so fking fast i rage on every bideo cuz so hot gg i can overclock to 123918230981290381903283901239018239081092380ghz with 12093810-23819028390128390 dolalr ice cooler
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BetaBotReborn intel is lying about the tdp their processors
to bad you cant tAKE ADVANTAGE OF A HIGHER END GRAPHICS CARD THOUGH HUH!.....THERE ISNT 1 MANUFACTURER WHO MAKES A MOTHERBOARD WITH A PCI EXPRESS 3.0 SLOT FOR AMD PROCESSORS....HMMMM WONDER WHY THAT IS HMMMM...
+Yaseen Jamal Mustapha Apparently it won't even bottleneck a titan x sli, which is just crazy in my opinion. definitely the best cpu on the market right now. I would say the 6600k is right now, but 1151 motherboards and ddr4 memory really make it not worth it in the end compared to the 4690k
+Hech Well if ur upgrading from 3xxx or 2xxx it doesn't make any sense... But for me It's a bit of a different story. I still have the old ass kickin Q8400 which i clocked to 3.5 ghz (yeah can go to 3.7ghz but i can't i need MB active cooler to cool that NB down) but soon it's time for me to jump to the current tech and use it until it grows old just like Q8400. I need good CPU because of audio production. Q8400 shows signs even at 3.5 ghz clock. When it's a big mix it can't hold all the effects. I can optimize the mix for more CPU power but i need active FXs so i can change if i don't like it etc... So you see to me 6700k would be a huge upgrade, expensive... But huge. Also it's very much overclockable which i love. In a year or 2 i could buy adequate cooling solution and OC the CPU to around 4.8 - 5 ghz and run it stable and cool like that until it gets old enough to buy another upgrade. :)
sermerlin1 That's mainly what I think the new series is best at. If you have a newer, but still decently old i5 or i7, the upgrade really isn't worth it, but if you have a processor that's years old, and definitely far behind in performance, then it is worth it.
i7 is better, but it costs a $hit load more than the i5. but if you are building a pc on a budget it would be better just to buy an i5 and invest rest into a graphics card
What a terrible poop comparison. all CPU's are from different generations, all use different architectures, one of them technically isn't even a CPU, but rather an APU! Ofcourse the FX 8320 performs like shit compared to an i7 5820K. This is comparing apples to stones to airplanes!
The Domikonis close, 8350 is 8 core = true 8350 is 3.5ghz = false 8350 has a baseclock of 4.0 ghz www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284
FX 8320.. Period. You are not making a mistake. Intel is a price mistake. You wont see the fps diffrence. JayzTwoCents I agree.. so i dont want any of butthurt Intel fanboys here GTFO k m8?
***** Intel lasts longer? What? So how you explain this? Those are my AMD and my friend's Intel that he bought for 150% price of my FX. www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/167784/spy/39849# Same with i7. I'm getting same fps in games and in benchmarks like my fathers i7 3770 .... so how the hell Intel lasts for longer time? Please use real life arguments instead of Intel "marketing". Regards.
***** you say AMD is hot .... my i7 3770k @ 4.4Ghz generates 86 C degrees ... if we are talking about temperatures. Without OC, both - AMD and Iltel are cool, running at similar temperatures. My 8350 is running 50 degrees max after 1h of full load, not bad for 4.3Ghz (on air). Stop making myths, both - AMD and Intel are cool and quiet, so like I've said - please stop with "Intel Marketing" if you have no idea what you are talking about.
Sorry, Noob here. Does Tread mean "Multithreaded?" Like, does four Threads on a four Core Processor mean that each processor has Multithreading? I'm a lifelong console player but I am planning on switching to a PC. I'me blown away by the lowest end processors still playing games at over double the FPS of the Xbox One.
I think a very important metric you missed was Minimum frame rate. Average fps is important, but if a processor averages 60 in places, but drops down to 20 fps, it can definitely affect user play.
hi i AMD fan i think gaming build we could pair titan x 4 way SLI with fx 6350 no bottlenecked since the cpu can be over clocked to 999ghz with my 10k dollar antarctica cooler stay cool AMD
erm, with a proper liquidcooler the FX8370 can go up to 4.7Ghz-4.8Ghz which is more than the 8320 featured in the video, just thought id mention it for further reference if anyone watches this video now :)
A Fx 6300 is about the same performance as a skylake I3. For a 100$ old CPU you have to admit that is good. Intel Fanboys can spend 130$ on Dual core shit that will Bottleneck any modern GPU.
why dont you look for some benchmarks, the i3 6100 has only 2 cores and is the worst intel cpu, but it completely destroys the 8350 in games it also is cheapper, newer, and it consumes a lot less and has a lot lower TDP I am not fanboy, I say the true, I hope the amd zen series that will be released in october to be good processors, not like the FX series that were so bad, so intel at least would have some competence and the prices would be lower
armando esteban quito tbh the 8300 series weren't that bad when they came out, and even now perform well. I do agree that bulldozer was terrible though. But they do hold up well considering they are pretty old chips now.
TheDutchGunners U also know it still isnt as good as a i7-4790k? the GHz is not the actual power you get from a CPU, you can have 5Ghz but if the CPU is shit, a 3.5GHz one can beat you and btw I easily could go on 4.8GHz but it already is pretty much OP
TheDutchGunners It might be good but I also will upgrade my Strix 970 OC to one or maybe with the time two ROG Strix 1080 OC, I got 16GB G.Skill High Performance Ram on 2666MHz and an Asus ROG Maximus VII Hero, I want to play anything in UHD on Ultra settings and an i5 or AMD CPU isn't a good choice then. And we all know AMD isn't the best gaming CPU maker, even if the power per €/$ on their GPU's is pretty good..
YellowPeaches Lol what did you play? Minecraft? the 4790k has got way more power, but sure its more expensive, but AMD could have made more threats in an 8 core cpu. The 4790k is on place 9 of the best CPU's whilest the 8320 is on 180. place. The effective speed is 68% higher than the 8320 ones. Thats why the 4790k is named Devil's Canyon. cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-AMD-FX-8320/2384vs1983
Processor - AMD FX 8320E Black Edition VGA - Sapphire R9 390 NITRO MOBO - Sabretooth 990FX R2.0 Memory - Ripjaw 4 x 4 gig 1866 PSU - SEASONIC MI2ii EVO 850W Cooler - ICE BLADE PRO v2.0 Casing - FRACTAL design ARC MIDI r2 Windowed Played BF4 and Call of duty Advance warfare in ultra setting and performs great. No sweat at all. I play DOTA 2 for 12 hours straight and did not experience any slowdown and CPU temp did not go up to 50 degree celsius and VGA temp. play on 67 to 69 degree. Never been wrong choosing AMD for my gaming rig.
I have an FX 8320 paired with a GTX 970 windforce. I regret it, and I wish I had gotten an i5. Nothing about this video is wrong, it's just that some of my favorite games, like the Total War series, are very dependent on single thread performance. My bet on an 8-core CPU was a bad one, imo.
+Philip Boardman LOL, how about you OC your chip? If you buy an FX chip, and leave it stock, that's your fault... I'm extremely happy with my 8 core 8370E, but I have it clocked at 5GHz, and my RAM is clocked at near 2133MHz.
Firetor - It is amazing for games that use a lot of threads. Everything is maxed and smooth in Dragon Age Inquisition. My point is that CPU bound games are often bound because of poor distribution of the workload. It doesn't matter how much Chronicblazer overclocks his CPU; it's still not going to compete with a higher end intel CPU in performance per thread. That's not a dig at AMD. Their chips are amazing at what they do.
+Philip Boardman lol, CPU-Z gives my chip @4.8GHz 1500 points in single thread, while the 5960x @ stock speeds has 1580 points. so you're saying a 5960x doesn't have what it takes to run games smoothly?
***** half of me agrees with you the other half thinks that is just a waste of like 20 bucks when its just for gaming lol like that's it I have a workstation for programming with a xion and Quattro GPU I almost think the 8320 is over kill I wish I just knew what is the exact amount of cpu power I would need to not bottle neck xyz gpu
+A Helpful Person I guess I have a good computer and only get 80 fps and I see streamers with good computers get 500-800 and u want to build a computer
+PyroRaider I have an amd 8350 paired with a 970 and I don't have a single problem. I run fallout 4 with texture mods at 1080p maxed out settings averaging 70 fps while streaming
Plus I have it over clocked too but hey...I don't really see why you would but an 8320 anyways about 50 bucks more you get an 8350 plus a boost in stock core clock
+DR VAPE33 (Sr. Vapes) try a game thats not heavily multicore dependent. Most triple A titles are using more cores so the fx series is coming into light, but play some games like arma or dayz that use a couples cores very heavily and you will see the difference is night and day when your using an fx vs intel.
watched alot of your voids now and I'm really impressed with you. keep up the good work. I'm planning my first build around max settings on fallout 4. would love you to do a vid on that
This really helped a lot. I was looking for these exact benchmarks for a long time. I have a FX 8320 and I've finally decided to make the jump to Intel. I'm going with the i7-5930K and this really opened my eyes to how much of a difference Intel makes. I thought this video was awesome, straight to the point and very well put together. You've earned yet another subscriber, and I have already liked the video :)
+XboxFanBoi I can guarantee that an i5 can get more out of 290. Here the important thing is the minimal fps, and a good CPU makes a difference in that respect.
These AMD fanboys are making me cringe. "OOH PAY $100 MORE FOR 8 MORE FPS." And a lower power bill, and better performance, and better performance per core, and more reliability.
+AlphaLineGaming PC power consumption under 1000W is nothing compared to your water boiler or a fridge which basically run 24/7. 1-2% bill increase can be worth saving 150$ on CPU and buying a more powerful GPU. Plus, your CPU will produce more heat and your room will be warmer in winter, so your electric warming won't need to be used as often - there won't be any difference when you put it in "keep the room warm during winter" perspective.
+AlphaLineGaming 8fps doesn't really seem like much to be scoffed at either.. Lots of people blow more money on stupid collectors edition games, or more on absurd amounts of ram, or needless showboat light up parts.. Nearly 10 extra fps is just about the difference between an entire graphics card tier, which interestingly, is also about $100! : )
Hey so I'm kinda a noob when it comes to computer building and everything, and I understand most of what you're saying in the video, but my problem is that my AMD FX-6300 isn't 64-bit compatible. I don't know if they're supposed to be and I'm doing something wrong, or if I messed up when I bought it, but when I go to upgrade it won't let me. After looking on some support sites for how to upgrade, I found the app CPU-Z and after I ran it found out that my CPU doesn't have the requirements for 64-bit even though it says x64 based processor in the system menu for my PC (I'm using windows 10 btw). So I'm here to see if i can find a good CPU that is 64-bit compatible and will still have my computer running smoothly and all that, and I just want to know if anyone can help me? My computer savvy friends have given me mixed feedback and advice, and at this point I don't know what to do.
Try installing a 64 bit version of your OS instead of a 32 bit one. FX 6300 is a 64 bit cpu, but in being a 64 bit cpu it is also compatible with 32 bit os. Just gotta install the right OS Skiz!
Alrighty, I hear what you're saying and thanks for the advice, but I'm currently using a 32-bit Windows 10 OS. I just wanna upgrade to 64 and there are tons of guides online that show you how, however I followed their steps and got an error message, and when I used CPU-Z to check to see if I had one of the correct whatevers (AMD64 or E64somethingsomething) I didn't have either, so I concluded that I must either need a new CPU or somehow install those thingies to my CPU. Any advice on what I should do?
yea, free upgrade from 8. BTW guys thank you for all your feedback and help and stuff, but I finally resolved the issue. It took about 5 hours but at least I didn't spend any money
+SkizShot45 you're on 32 bit? Ah, that's the problem. You can't simply upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit. Instead you will need to reinstall Windows 10 with 64 bit. You can go to here to create a Windows 10 usb flash drive installer: download.microsoft.com/download/1/C/4/1C41BC6B-F8AB-403B-B04E-C96ED6047488/MediaCreationTool.exe Then just install Windows 10 on your PC. You can use the product key that came with your windows license you bought for Windows 8 (assuming you built your PC). Note: This will erase ALL your files, so make sure to have a backup if there's anything on your PC that you want to keep! Also, if you have more than 4 gb ram this should make it so you can use more than 4 gb ram on your computer! (32 bit can't use more than 4 gb ram!) Hope this helps! :)
Tyler Weigand So, I think I said this a bit earlier, but I fixed it all. I have a 64-bit system and everything and I'm fine. I think I posted on this comment chain I got it all fixed and stuff.......so thanks for the advice, but I got it.
Yeah most but not ubisoft titles at ultra :p and gtx 970 also has 3.5 gb ram gate issue which in realtime doesn't matter but you should keep in mind with that or go with another gpu like amd r9 285
I have 5820k, playing very match FB4 and CSGO it's match better than my old 2500k, but i doing a lot of action videos, thats why i have the i7-5820k. This processor is match faster than I7-6700k in rendering, but the same in games.
I've been playing with a i3 1st or second gen processor for about 5 years. Attila total war was a wake up call in terms of needing a new computer, the campaign map itself was lagging at the lowest setting, just think how the battle map looked like. almost impossible to play. My friend has an i7 that is not too old but certainly not any new generation and his gaming rig out preforms mine by FAR. im currently building one for the future because i want to play the new Warhammer Total war the comes out and I KNOW my computer will not cut it. This video and the help of my brother showed me that i don't need a i7 to play games at the ultimate setting and have a good frame rate. now my future rig has a i5 picked out and isn't going to cost me $1000 dollars ($780)
Can you guys please explain what is the difference between i5 4690k vs i5 4690 non-K version? I'm not planning to overclock btw. Does the stock speed perfomance differ?
My gpu is msi radeon r9 380 4gb I have an amd a6-6400k that can run assassins creed unity at 15 fps (in crowded areas) I am planning to buy the i5 4690k Is it a good improvement or not?
+Nariva TV Ohh men dual core cpu, bottleneck, if your mobo is a FM2+ upgrade to Athlon x4 860K, if not, find a Quad Core Richland o Trinity with K and overclock it to 4.00GHz (without overvolt)
Fredzar Untill then you can save up for another powerfull GPU. Grab something stronger from amd and later buy another one. That's just my recommendation.
gooo606 get the 8320 or 8350 there both under 200 bucks and kickass especially when overclocked the i3 which is dual core on certain titles dual core cpu's wont run games like farcry 4.
steven schumm i3's have no problem running games like Far Cry 4 because they have Hyper Threading. The CPU that suffers the most is the Pentium G3258 as it's a true dual core chip.
A Tribe Called Quest thats good but a gtx 1050 and an intel core i3 might be better (amd is usually worse for gaming but better for rendering at similar price points)
A Tribe Called Quest holy shit, that's a really good deal for the rx. A10 is just slightly worse than intels for content creating, but it's really cost efficient and the gap isn't gigantic like it is with gaming, so you made a good rig cheers
Paid £107 for my 8320 2 years ago, I already had an evo 212 which cost me £25. Got me to 4.4Ghz and I'm still pretty damn happy with its performance to this day for how much I paid.
Just built a new gaming rig with an AMD 8350 8 core 4ghz processor ($170), 240gig ssd, ASUS motherboard, ASUS GTX 970 OC, 16gigs of GSkill Rip Jaws ram, Antec 750 watt power supply, & now case, & only spent about $1100. I bought a couple parts at a time from newegg over a few months. When you plan on building a new pc, pick your processor first, then build from that. Don't cheap out on the motherboard & make sure it can run the fastest clock speed ram. Upgrade to a good aftermarket CPU cooler to avoid overheating during heavy loads & long gaming sessions.
Dude you have no idea how much this video helped me out I'm trying to build a PC for the first time and I didn't know what would be the best processor for me now I know i5 all the way I thought it was going to be crap
Results seem inconclusive outside of the benchmark. Problem is some games utilize the CPU more than others. Another problem with your testing is that you used different motherboards and didn't measure or calculate for differing bus speeds.
It's actually pretty impressive that the Athlon 5350 can keep up with playable framerates even in CPU-intensive titles. People on a budget who want's current-gen console quality could probably look into pairing the processor with a GTX 750Ti/950 and get a rig that is both responsive and can play games rather well. The impressive thing is that you can probably play The Witcher 3 reasonably well with medium/high settings 1080p30fps for a fraction of the money it will cost to go for the i5 or i7. However, a i5 or i7 will most definitely be more future proof as modern titles tends to be more taxing on CPUs. Anyway, I'm getting a am1 for the living room, I could probably even go completely silent with a Arctic Cooling Alpine M1 passive and a semi-passive silverstone-sfx power supply :)
Hi i have an it 4690k and a gtx 970 but i want to upgrade tot 980 TI, will it bottleneck my current cpu the gtx 980 ti ? and also i have a seasonic m12ii-620w evo editionion is my PSU enough for my 4690k 4.4 GHz and a 980 TI ? Thx for your help !
You really didn't talk about any games with extreme CPU workloads, it was all games that offload the vast majority of the work to the GPU. I'd be interested in seeing how Cities Skylines stacks up between the newest lower end and higher end CPU's with otherwise identical hardware.
I've seen a few of these videos now. It seems pretty evident that CPU's aren't really that important if all you wanna do is get 60fps at reasonably high-medium settings at 1080p. It seems like a better choice to get a lower end cpu, most likely AMD, over clock it to whatever you can get with stock cooling, and put more money into the graphics card. I've been researching a lot over the past week and ultimate opted to go with Intel and Nvidia i5-4590 and GTX 960. Not the most price efficient, but I do more than just gaming. I do a lot of work with Virtual Machines and I want to start gaming on Linux and in the Linux community it's pretty much unanimous that Radeon drivers suck on Linux. Happy Hardware hunting to all of you.
7:45 of course the CPUs will perform similar if you have the graphics maxed out. This happens because not the CPU is limiting the framerate but the graphics card. So it's not a very meaningful test.
iceagex Sorry but you'd be wrong. DX12 will allow the full use of the CPU during gaming, as opposed to using 2-4 cores. So for an 8-core FX cpu, who could only utilize 4 cores in a DX11 gaming environment would experience a huge performance boost utilizing all 8 more efficiently, in DX12.
I have the 5820k, 16 GB Ram and GTX 980Ti the Performance is awsome ! Run all Games in 4K. By expensiver and run the next 4 to five years or replace in 2 !
At the prices mentioned, it would seem as the 8320 is the actual bang for buck deal. But where I live, 8320 is actually slightly costlier than a i5 4440 (which performs on the same level, faster in some games), and just a bit cheaper than 4690 [ 4440 is around 11.5k INR, 8320 12.5k and 4690 is 14k ]. In such a situation, I would find the i5 to be a better overall choice.
I remember my instructor used an 8-core fx chip for a server. That thing overheated and overheated. This was before the chips came with radiators. We put a bigger heatsink on and hooked everything back up. Turned the power on and zap. The motherboard shorted out near the cpu socket. Had no idea what happened. Maybe the cpu was on its last legs when the rush of power came from turning it on.
It depends on how you use it. FX8xxx requires much less voltage than you think. I'm running my FX-8350 @ 4.3Ghz at ... less than stock voltage. Cool and quiet mate, cool and quiet.
Still gaming with 3 1080p monitors, im using a watercooled phenom 955 @ 3.8ghz and 8gb ddr2 1066. My video card still is and always has been the bottle neck, started with an ATI 4890, AMD 6870, AMD 7950, AMD 7950 x 2 in that order. Only now (6-7 years later) do I genuinely think my £120 CPU is starting to show its age in real world use, although it never seems to be an actual bottleneck! It still outperforms my video cards generally speaking. Many may disagree.
From thsi there really isn't a reason to get the latest CPU then. Knowledge that was already out there, but this veido certainly does prove it. All you need is about a $175 dollar cpu and youre golden. Unless the extra 5-6 fps makes a difference to you. Good video.
Thanks for the interesting comparison using the lowly Kabini 5350 And the I7 12 thread monster. I was really surprised at how well the 5350 performed for such a low powered basic computer. :) I would probably get a Intel 6 core 12 thread CPU for future proofing and better single core threaded capabilities though.. Nice review :)
Hey there. I don't think it's right comparison at all. 1. First off, I think it's IS important to show overclock stats of the CPUs. It's quite vital piece of information, at least as gaming goes. 2. Secondly, if you weren't planning to do any overclocking, why would you pick K chips for Intel? It makes more sense to take non-K chips as they are cheaper. 3. Games that are represented in the benchmarks are not really that CPU-bound as far as I know. This review missing ones like Total War, Cities: Skylines, some MMO's, etc. In some cases CPU might be a bottleneck even with good GPU onboard. 4. I might have missed it, but I think there was no information about motherboards at all.
I have fx-4130 3.80 GHz CPU R9 280x GPU 2133 MHz 8 GB Hyperx Beast 650W PSU I know the CPU is a bottleneck, so i am considering a upgrade after the Christmas money $$ What would you recommend? (Have in mind i don't want to spend tons of money)
I'm glad I got my 8320 about a year back for 120. There is basically no reason to buy an intel processor for gaming unless you absolutely hate your money.
So enjoy spending double on your 4790s to gain 5 frames per second!
Kerrigan M true even on far cry 4 with the massive difference in the fps between the amd 8320 and the i7 the amd was still running above 60 fps and im ok with that....... pineapple
Lol... Fx8 CPUs can bottleneck a GTX 970. You may hit 80fps on a shitty fx8 but you will hit tons of FPS drops. Btw you can get a i5 and mobo for the same price of a fx8 and mobo because to achieve such high overclocks on these fx8s you need a high end mobo and high end CPU cooler to even keep,up with 4.5+ Ghz.
Maybe you are saving money in the beginning but you still using twice as much electricity power you have to pay for in the future so basically people who buy the i5 is saving money on electricity power.
+Peter Laursen ha-ha OK, enjoy saving the difference in cost by saving a few watt over the next 30 years.
+Kerrigan M it's depends on where in the world you live the electricity cost different all around the world!! Some places are cheap others are expensive and what kind of money you're making!!
In summary get the fx8320 and that $100 you save from not buying the i5, you can get better graphics card, or psu or ssd, for now.
the fx 8350 is only 150 so go with it
definitely but make sure to oc to 4ghz+ very easy to do on those CPU. a ssd more ram or better gpu will net a much higher performance gain vs an i5 anyway
+ronald4life1 Yep. The fx 800 cpu shit on anything within $200 when overclocked.
Niels __ exactly they are beasts at above 4ghz which is VERY easy to do. Then with the $200 saved by getting an AMD motherboard and CPU vs Intel I5 and Intel Motherboard you can get a 240GB ssd and 16gb of ram. Huge performance increase right there!
For 100$ 8thread of 4+Ghz, can get of intel ? i3 6100 -120+$ xD and is it shit.
He toke 2 cheap amd CPU's and 2 Expensive Intel CPUS
+Bros1083 I'm actually glad to see the amd cpus kept up
SirReversal he could have went witih 9590. 223$
Mvttyy When they say 8 cores it really hyperthreaded so 4 cores in AMD
+Bros1083 no, the AMD cpu has 8 cores and is slower than a 4 core
The extra performance is not worth the extra price... Simple as that
im not paying 100 dollars to get 1 frame more. Intel fanboys rekt
my kidneys failed because of my salt levels cuz of ur cmmnt
+ChubCraft wat
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It would be more accurate to say your Heart failed, not Kidneys.
why didn't you use the FX 8350 ? rather than the 8320 ?
oh okay thanks for the info.
Super Rdawg with fx 8350 = 8320 XD my fx 8320 overclocked at 4.8Ghz and 30-60$ ;) save.
True Tek Using stock cpu cooler or aftermarket cooler?
True Tek Bullshit, it cant go to 4.8.
PsyhicPanda HS website shows it maxes out at 4.4
This CPU war is all about where the budget is limited at. If you happen to be a rich man/woman, then please go for Intel because to be honest, intel does rock in most of the game titles. However, if you are looking for the best performance/price ratio, then please go for AMD cpu because they are cheap and they are pretty competitive when it comes to gaming performance as well. I own AMD fx 8350, and I love how this perform when I'm gaming! I've also tested my system by changing the CPU and motherboard to Intel, and I must say that they are better in gaming, but at higher cost. So the bottom line is that, go for intel if you got money, or just go for AMD. pce
i own amd fx 1337 its so fking fast i rage on every bideo cuz so hot gg
i can overclock to 123918230981290381903283901239018239081092380ghz with 12093810-23819028390128390 dolalr ice cooler
BetaBotReborn intel is lying about the tdp their processors
to bad you cant tAKE ADVANTAGE OF A HIGHER END GRAPHICS CARD THOUGH HUH!.....THERE ISNT 1 MANUFACTURER WHO MAKES A MOTHERBOARD WITH A PCI EXPRESS 3.0 SLOT FOR AMD PROCESSORS....HMMMM WONDER WHY THAT IS HMMMM...
AMD is bought by intel lmao
NOT!
Who the fuck would buy a 20000$ procceser
ToucanTV a person that needs a server/super computer
SUPRA the amount of cores does not mean the speed of the cpu
SUPRA nope
Harry Hammonds what about robots that can have a conversation with you and knows the entire dictionary of many languages?
Harry Hammonds a massive server
4690k is the ultimate gaming cpu. There is no reason you would want to use anything less unless your budget doesn't allow it.
I agree, its at the perfect point to where it doesn't bottleneck the gpu and also saves you some cash to spend on the graphics card
+Yaseen Jamal Mustapha Apparently it won't even bottleneck a titan x sli, which is just crazy in my opinion. definitely the best cpu on the market right now. I would say the 6600k is right now, but 1151 motherboards and ddr4 memory really make it not worth it in the end compared to the 4690k
+Hech Yeah I actually thought about the 6600k but the extra cost just didn't seem worth it
+Hech Well if ur upgrading from 3xxx or 2xxx it doesn't make any sense... But for me It's a bit of a different story. I still have the old ass kickin Q8400 which i clocked to 3.5 ghz (yeah can go to 3.7ghz but i can't i need MB active cooler to cool that NB down) but soon it's time for me to jump to the current tech and use it until it grows old just like Q8400. I need good CPU because of audio production. Q8400 shows signs even at 3.5 ghz clock. When it's a big mix it can't hold all the effects. I can optimize the mix for more CPU power but i need active FXs so i can change if i don't like it etc...
So you see to me 6700k would be a huge upgrade, expensive... But huge. Also it's very much overclockable which i love. In a year or 2 i could buy adequate cooling solution and OC the CPU to around 4.8 - 5 ghz and run it stable and cool like that until it gets old enough to buy another upgrade. :)
sermerlin1 That's mainly what I think the new series is best at. If you have a newer, but still decently old i5 or i7, the upgrade really isn't worth it, but if you have a processor that's years old, and definitely far behind in performance, then it is worth it.
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i5 is THE best cpu for gaming
i7 is better, but it costs a $hit load more than the i5.
but if you are building a pc on a budget it would be better just to buy an i5 and invest rest into a graphics card
What a terrible poop comparison. all CPU's are from different generations, all use different architectures, one of them technically isn't even a CPU, but rather an APU!
Ofcourse the FX 8320 performs like shit compared to an i7 5820K. This is comparing apples to stones to airplanes!
+wealllovetheone looks like you misunderstood the purpose of this comparison.
Why are you showing all this GPU bound data on a CPU comparison?
Because he didn't want to compare there Overall speed, he wanted to compare their gaming speed.
these are ALL gpu demanding games so it makes absolutely no sense to test a CPU with this game. Try it on ArmA III with max settings.
Hm... But will it run minecraft?...
Ula Berry Gosh I hope not ;/
Ula Berry my toaster runs minecraft
Matt My OC calculator can run Minecraft at highest settings on triple 4k monitors.
kolarhonzik
but do it have enought RAM? xD
Mincraft is scripted very bad... it requieres 10 times more Ram then it actually would need
Ula Berry Probably not. You might want to just limit yourself to minesweeper and paint.
Here's a really simple CPU buyers guide for anyone who wants a computer for gaming.
Spending < $500? - Buy a FX4350
Spending > $500? - Buy a 4690K
The Domikonis 4350?!?!! TF.
Uh, Yeah?
The Domikonis its 8350
UnknownOrc No, It's a 4350. the 8350 is an 8 core processor clocked at 3.5 ghz I believe, the 4350 is a 4 core processor clocked at 4.2 ghz.
The Domikonis close,
8350 is 8 core = true
8350 is 3.5ghz = false
8350 has a baseclock of 4.0 ghz
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284
FX 8320.. Period. You are not making a mistake. Intel is a price mistake. You wont see the fps diffrence. JayzTwoCents
I agree.. so i dont want any of butthurt Intel fanboys here GTFO k m8?
FX-8320 is insane ! especially for it's price. OC is ultra easy and all games runs like a dream.
AirsoftAddicted
ye
***** Intel lasts longer? What?
So how you explain this? Those are my AMD and my friend's Intel that he bought for 150% price of my FX.
www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/167784/spy/39849#
Same with i7. I'm getting same fps in games and in benchmarks like my fathers i7 3770 .... so how the hell Intel lasts for longer time? Please use real life arguments instead of Intel "marketing".
Regards.
***** you say AMD is hot .... my i7 3770k @ 4.4Ghz generates 86 C degrees ... if we are talking about temperatures. Without OC, both - AMD and Iltel are cool, running at similar temperatures. My 8350 is running 50 degrees max after 1h of full load, not bad for 4.3Ghz (on air).
Stop making myths, both - AMD and Intel are cool and quiet, so like I've said - please stop with "Intel Marketing" if you have no idea what you are talking about.
AirsoftAddicted agreed!
Sorry, Noob here. Does Tread mean "Multithreaded?" Like, does four Threads on a four Core Processor mean that each processor has Multithreading?
I'm a lifelong console player but I am planning on switching to a PC. I'me blown away by the lowest end processors still playing games at over double the FPS of the Xbox One.
Geoffrey Zoref No, a 4 core CPU with 4 threads means it's not hyperthreaded.
if you're planning to go *pc master race* then use steam.
why? well steam sales thats why
welcome chap, i can't help you with your question but it's good to see another fellow join the masterrace
I pair a Intel Celeron with a R9 295 x2, because I can.
can i play Crysis 3 Max Settings 8K 500FPS?
Intel Pentium 133 MHZ
3DFX VooDoo II
32MB DDR1 Ram
Windows 95
add three more potatoes and you'll be fine
+moh you best comment ive seen in this minute
+moh you lolllll
yes
put 2 monitors more.
I think a very important metric you missed was Minimum frame rate. Average fps is important, but if a processor averages 60 in places, but drops down to 20 fps, it can definitely affect user play.
does anyone know where I can download the Internet?
delete system 32 and then you should be able to install it after a window comes up with the link
Thirti Sankwich how to download system 32?
Gibe da Pucci plis download Windows xp
On a pc.
Good video but I would recommend a fx-6300 if You are broke and a i7- 4790k if You want to spend some $.
hi i AMD fan i think gaming build we could pair titan x 4 way SLI with fx 6350 no bottlenecked since the cpu can be over clocked to 999ghz with my 10k dollar antarctica cooler stay cool AMD
At the price and performance the FX-8350 has been amazing for me, haven't felt the need to overclock yet.
Is that ddr3 or ddr4?
This is a very informative video. You should make more of these. Definitely one of the better videos compared to others of the same type.
erm, with a proper liquidcooler the FX8370 can go up to 4.7Ghz-4.8Ghz which is more than the 8320 featured in the video, just thought id mention it for further reference if anyone watches this video now :)
A Fx 6300 is about the same performance as a skylake I3.
For a 100$ old CPU you have to admit that is good. Intel Fanboys can spend 130$ on Dual core shit that will Bottleneck any modern GPU.
the 6300 is the sweet spot for price/performance though, don't know too many cpu's that can beat it purely on that.
why dont you look for some benchmarks, the i3 6100 has only 2 cores and is the worst intel cpu, but it completely destroys the 8350 in games
it also is cheapper, newer, and it consumes a lot less and has a lot lower TDP
I am not fanboy, I say the true, I hope the amd zen series that will be released in october to be good processors, not like the FX series that were so bad, so intel at least would have some competence and the prices would be lower
armando esteban quito tbh the 8300 series weren't that bad when they came out, and even now perform well. I do agree that bulldozer was terrible though. But they do hold up well considering they are pretty old chips now.
Umm the is i3 6100 is outperforming the FX 6300. Aaand the 6300 is bottlenecking even a R9 380X, the i3 can keep up with a 970.
Interesting. My friend is running GTX980 with FX-6300 and you know what?
The only bottle you will find in his room is a bootle of beer.
Regards.
i7-4790k on 4.4GHz all the time
I love you laura
TheDutchGunners U also know it still isnt as good as a i7-4790k? the GHz is not the actual power you get from a CPU, you can have 5Ghz but if the CPU is shit, a 3.5GHz one can beat you
and btw I easily could go on 4.8GHz but it already is pretty much OP
TheDutchGunners It might be good but I also will upgrade my Strix 970 OC to one or maybe with the time two ROG Strix 1080 OC, I got 16GB G.Skill High Performance Ram on 2666MHz and an Asus ROG Maximus VII Hero, I want to play anything in UHD on Ultra settings and an i5 or AMD CPU isn't a good choice then. And we all know AMD isn't the best gaming CPU maker, even if the power per €/$ on their GPU's is pretty good..
the 8320 is 10 fps slower and 150$ cheaper.. fuck off
YellowPeaches Lol what did you play? Minecraft? the 4790k has got way more power, but sure its more expensive, but AMD could have made more threats in an 8 core cpu. The 4790k is on place 9 of the best CPU's whilest the 8320 is on 180. place. The effective speed is 68% higher than the 8320 ones. Thats why the 4790k is named Devil's Canyon.
cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-AMD-FX-8320/2384vs1983
great video, excellent comparison. Bigger channels seem to forget to make cpu comparisons that are applicable to real life situations.
I'm always very interested in this kind of tests. Thank you for making them.
MY Rig i7 2600k
R9 380 4GB
8GB Ram
320GB Hardrive 5400Rpm
AMD for every one
Intel company just to high prices
AMD better value
Processor - AMD FX 8320E Black Edition
VGA - Sapphire R9 390 NITRO
MOBO - Sabretooth 990FX R2.0
Memory - Ripjaw 4 x 4 gig 1866
PSU - SEASONIC MI2ii EVO 850W
Cooler - ICE BLADE PRO v2.0
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Played BF4 and Call of duty Advance warfare in ultra setting and performs great. No sweat at all. I play DOTA 2 for 12 hours straight and did not experience any slowdown and CPU temp did not go up to 50 degree celsius and VGA temp. play on 67 to 69 degree. Never been wrong choosing AMD for my gaming rig.
I have an FX 8320 paired with a GTX 970 windforce. I regret it, and I wish I had gotten an i5. Nothing about this video is wrong, it's just that some of my favorite games, like the Total War series, are very dependent on single thread performance. My bet on an 8-core CPU was a bad one, imo.
+Philip Boardman
LOL, how about you OC your chip? If you buy an FX chip, and leave it stock, that's your fault... I'm extremely happy with my 8 core 8370E, but I have it clocked at 5GHz, and my RAM is clocked at near 2133MHz.
+Philip Boardman AMD is a good company, it's just made for budget builds and more low end games.
Firetor - It is amazing for games that use a lot of threads. Everything is maxed and smooth in Dragon Age Inquisition. My point is that CPU bound games are often bound because of poor distribution of the workload.
It doesn't matter how much Chronicblazer overclocks his CPU; it's still not going to compete with a higher end intel CPU in performance per thread. That's not a dig at AMD. Their chips are amazing at what they do.
+Philip Boardman lol, CPU-Z gives my chip @4.8GHz 1500 points in single thread, while the 5960x @ stock speeds has 1580 points. so you're saying a 5960x doesn't have what it takes to run games smoothly?
Philip Boardman I agree.
even after people watch this video they still think they need an i5 and to spend more than $150 on a CPU my god the internet lol
***** half of me agrees with you the other half thinks that is just a waste of like 20 bucks when its just for gaming lol like that's it I have a workstation for programming with a xion and Quattro GPU I almost think the 8320 is over kill I wish I just knew what is the exact amount of cpu power I would need to not bottle neck xyz gpu
+Jeremy Hansen pcpartpicker.com/user/areeb/saved/#view=gjwBD3
this should be able to run just cause 3 at max settings right?
+madmonkeystudios Link is empty, list your parts in the comments
Why you no 6300?
XD
people should add arma 3 for CPU tests, that is the most CPU intensive game i have ever seen
When I think AMD is perfect for people who live in antartica
what about minecraft
+A Helpful Person Its because Notch is a useless idiot and can't code it anything than Java
+A Helpful Person so dumb
+A Helpful Person I guess I have a good computer and only get 80 fps and I see streamers with good computers get 500-800 and u want to build a computer
+A Helpful Person Minecraft does take a decent amount of power to run though, because it was really poorly written.
+James Genel this could run it in 1000 000 FPS
Amd FX is way to go than intel i5
Nope
FX Bottlenecks the gtx 970
+PyroRaider I have an amd 8350 paired with a 970 and I don't have a single problem. I run fallout 4 with texture mods at 1080p maxed out settings averaging 70 fps while streaming
+DR VAPE33 (Sr. Vapes) that cpu is good
Plus I have it over clocked too but hey...I don't really see why you would but an 8320 anyways about 50 bucks more you get an 8350 plus a boost in stock core clock
+DR VAPE33 (Sr. Vapes) try a game thats not heavily multicore dependent. Most triple A titles are using more cores so the fx series is coming into light, but play some games like arma or dayz that use a couples cores very heavily and you will see the difference is night and day when your using an fx vs intel.
watched alot of your voids now and I'm really impressed with you. keep up the good work. I'm planning my first build around max settings on fallout 4. would love you to do a vid on that
This really helped a lot. I was looking for these exact benchmarks for a long time. I have a FX 8320 and I've finally decided to make the jump to Intel. I'm going with the i7-5930K and this really opened my eyes to how much of a difference Intel makes. I thought this video was awesome, straight to the point and very well put together. You've earned yet another subscriber, and I have already liked the video :)
As a processor I have a AMD FX-8350, 4.0 GHz, and as a GPU I have a AMD R9 290 (4GB). Please tell me if these are good or not.
+Roninbro123 Good, good
+Roninbro123 It's good you can have beautiful 1080p gaming with that.
thats a great combo. If you haven't already, upgrade from stock.
+XboxFanBoi I can guarantee that an i5 can get more out of 290. Here the important thing is the minimal fps, and a good CPU makes a difference in that respect.
+Adrián Ramírez kids be like: 3 Titan X!! Intel core Pentium processor! Corsair CX430W PSU!!! Epic build!!!!
These AMD fanboys are making me cringe. "OOH PAY $100 MORE FOR 8 MORE FPS."
And a lower power bill, and better performance, and better performance per core, and more reliability.
Mr. LightBulb Lol. Overtime it won't be the same way. When you're paying twice the amount for power compared to me, it adds up.
+AlphaLineGaming Not really , i switched to AMD 4 months ago and the power bill is the same
What Intel did you have? My old AMD build would take ~400W on average, my new Intel/Nvidia takes ~250.
+AlphaLineGaming PC power consumption under 1000W is nothing compared to your water boiler or a fridge which basically run 24/7. 1-2% bill increase can be worth saving 150$ on CPU and buying a more powerful GPU. Plus, your CPU will produce more heat and your room will be warmer in winter, so your electric warming won't need to be used as often - there won't be any difference when you put it in "keep the room warm during winter" perspective.
+AlphaLineGaming 8fps doesn't really seem like much to be scoffed at either.. Lots of people blow more money on stupid collectors edition games, or more on absurd amounts of ram, or needless showboat light up parts.. Nearly 10 extra fps is just about the difference between an entire graphics card tier, which interestingly, is also about $100! : )
Thank you for taking the time to do this video
You are superbly efficient and informative, SUBBBED!
Hey so I'm kinda a noob when it comes to computer building and everything, and I understand most of what you're saying in the video, but my problem is that my AMD FX-6300 isn't 64-bit compatible. I don't know if they're supposed to be and I'm doing something wrong, or if I messed up when I bought it, but when I go to upgrade it won't let me. After looking on some support sites for how to upgrade, I found the app CPU-Z and after I ran it found out that my CPU doesn't have the requirements for 64-bit even though it says x64 based processor in the system menu for my PC (I'm using windows 10 btw). So I'm here to see if i can find a good CPU that is 64-bit compatible and will still have my computer running smoothly and all that, and I just want to know if anyone can help me? My computer savvy friends have given me mixed feedback and advice, and at this point I don't know what to do.
Try installing a 64 bit version of your OS instead of a 32 bit one. FX 6300 is a 64 bit cpu, but in being a 64 bit cpu it is also compatible with 32 bit os. Just gotta install the right OS Skiz!
Alrighty, I hear what you're saying and thanks for the advice, but I'm currently using a 32-bit Windows 10 OS. I just wanna upgrade to 64 and there are tons of guides online that show you how, however I followed their steps and got an error message, and when I used CPU-Z to check to see if I had one of the correct whatevers (AMD64 or E64somethingsomething) I didn't have either, so I concluded that I must either need a new CPU or somehow install those thingies to my CPU. Any advice on what I should do?
yea, free upgrade from 8. BTW guys thank you for all your feedback and help and stuff, but I finally resolved the issue. It took about 5 hours but at least I didn't spend any money
+SkizShot45 you're on 32 bit? Ah, that's the problem.
You can't simply upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit. Instead you will need to reinstall Windows 10 with 64 bit.
You can go to here to create a Windows 10 usb flash drive installer: download.microsoft.com/download/1/C/4/1C41BC6B-F8AB-403B-B04E-C96ED6047488/MediaCreationTool.exe
Then just install Windows 10 on your PC. You can use the product key that came with your windows license you bought for Windows 8 (assuming you built your PC).
Note: This will erase ALL your files, so make sure to have a backup if there's anything on your PC that you want to keep!
Also, if you have more than 4 gb ram this should make it so you can use more than 4 gb ram on your computer! (32 bit can't use more than 4 gb ram!)
Hope this helps! :)
Tyler Weigand So, I think I said this a bit earlier, but I fixed it all. I have a 64-bit system and everything and I'm fine. I think I posted on this comment chain I got it all fixed and stuff.......so thanks for the advice, but I got it.
should i be able to run most of those games at ultra with 60fps with a Intel i5 4690 and a GTX 970??
Yes don't forget 8gb of ram
Yeah most but not ubisoft titles at ultra :p and gtx 970 also has 3.5 gb ram gate issue which in realtime doesn't matter but you should keep in mind with that or go with another gpu like amd r9 285
k thx for the intel
Pirovano Mateo gtx 970 is still epic if nobody wouldve found out it would be one of top gpu's
max every game 1080p very nice pc bro, i have a i5 4690 and gtx 770 4gb
Thanks, this is exactly what I've been looking for all night.
Excellent video. Thank you. I would like to see similar video with different flight simulation games.
the 5350 is still better than a ps4 or xbone.. :D
AwesomeVindicator what is xbone maybe xbox
erm... yes... its an abbreviation for xbox one....
xbone....
I have 5820k, playing very match FB4 and CSGO it's match better than my old 2500k, but i doing a lot of action videos, thats why i have the i7-5820k. This processor is match faster than I7-6700k in rendering, but the same in games.
I've been playing with a i3 1st or second gen processor for about 5 years. Attila total war was a wake up call in terms of needing a new computer, the campaign map itself was lagging at the lowest setting, just think how the battle map looked like. almost impossible to play. My friend has an i7 that is not too old but certainly not any new generation and his gaming rig out preforms mine by FAR. im currently building one for the future because i want to play the new Warhammer Total war the comes out and I KNOW my computer will not cut it. This video and the help of my brother showed me that i don't need a i7 to play games at the ultimate setting and have a good frame rate. now my future rig has a i5 picked out and isn't going to cost me $1000 dollars ($780)
Core i7-6700
16GB RAM
2TB Hard Drive
128GB solid state drive
Could this run CS:GO Max settings without choppy lag?
+ReVon You can but what's your gpu
I'm not sure, the PC is still shipping and it didn't say on the tag
+ReVon Can you tell me the model of your pc, even when your pc has no gpu it will still run it
+Mr. Meeseek I found it on their website, Heres the link h20386.www2.hp.com/CanadaStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=N0A72AA&opt=ABL&sel=DTP
ReVon You have a 960, you can play every game on high-ultra settings 40-60 fps
Can you guys please explain what is the difference between i5 4690k vs i5 4690 non-K version? I'm not planning to overclock btw. Does the stock speed perfomance differ?
+LawlessSentry The i5 4690K is unlocked so you can overclock it. The i5 4690 is locked so you cant overclock it. Hope this helped
TechNetwork So at stock speed both CPUs perform the same?
+LawlessSentry Yes.
TechNetwork ok thanks.... :D... i might get the nonK version then... since im not into overclocking... ^^
+LawlessSentry Glad to help. Good luck with your build
Nice video can't believe I've never seen a video of yours before 0_0
My gpu is msi radeon r9 380 4gb
I have an amd a6-6400k that can run assassins creed unity at 15 fps (in crowded areas)
I am planning to buy the i5 4690k
Is it a good improvement or not?
+Nariva TV Ohh men dual core cpu, bottleneck, if your mobo is a FM2+ upgrade to Athlon x4 860K, if not, find a Quad Core Richland o Trinity with K and overclock it to 4.00GHz (without overvolt)
06:44 You mean 8320, right?
+Jrm166 nu
+Prince Raghavan ye dad he does
Jrm166 nu
+Prince Raghavan I think you mean no
+BLACK_POLAR_BEARS_FTW!
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Is my 8350 cpu being bottlenecked by my sapphire r9 270 duel x
Yes. Get a 480.
Luka David Torkar im planning on getting 2 rx480 nitros from sapphirre
Fredzar That's awesome. However, I don't think there are many games that take advantage of crossfire yet.
I know but I hope there will be more support in the future
Fredzar Untill then you can save up for another powerfull GPU. Grab something stronger from amd and later buy another one. That's just my recommendation.
Great video thanks this will help with my 1st build
i bought an AMD fx-8350 for $150, I was going to go Intel but then i saw the deal and I never looked back.
Which is The best cpu under 200$ for an GTX 970. Im not eure if i should take an i3-4370, fx 8320 or i5 4460.
I want to upgrade In Future (1-2 years)
The amd one or i5
gooo606 I use an i5 4460 but i would go for the AMD
gooo606 get the 8320 or 8350 there both under 200 bucks and kickass especially when overclocked the i3 which is dual core on certain titles dual core cpu's wont run games like farcry 4.
steven schumm i3's have no problem running games like Far Cry 4 because they have Hyper Threading. The CPU that suffers the most is the Pentium G3258 as it's a true dual core chip.
Hyperthreading doesn't do much especially while gaming and the price to performance ratio you honestly can't beat the 8 core cpu
Rx 460 + amd a10 for budget gaming?
A Tribe Called Quest
thats good but a gtx 1050 and an intel core i3 might be better (amd is usually worse for gaming but better for rendering at similar price points)
Bhyte i heard that amd is better for content creation and the RX was on sale for $85 so I copped that lol
A Tribe Called Quest holy shit, that's a really good deal for the rx.
A10 is just slightly worse than intels for content creating, but it's really cost efficient and the gap isn't gigantic like it is with gaming, so you made a good rig
cheers
Bhyte thanks yeah gotta love black friday/cyber monday
A Tribe Called Quest yeah, got have my fucking rig for $60 because of black friday and left over gift cards
Paid £107 for my 8320 2 years ago, I already had an evo 212 which cost me £25. Got me to 4.4Ghz and I'm still pretty damn happy with its performance to this day for how much I paid.
Installed a FX4300 on my sister pc and wasn't expecting it to be so competent overall. What a bargain - payed 60€ for it!
the 8320 actually did way better than I thought it would, as I had been told that an i5 would mop the floor with it.
Just built a new gaming rig with an AMD 8350 8 core 4ghz processor ($170), 240gig ssd, ASUS motherboard, ASUS GTX 970 OC, 16gigs of GSkill Rip Jaws ram, Antec 750 watt power supply, & now case, & only spent about $1100. I bought a couple parts at a time from newegg over a few months. When you plan on building a new pc, pick your processor first, then build from that. Don't cheap out on the motherboard & make sure it can run the fastest clock speed ram. Upgrade to a good aftermarket CPU cooler to avoid overheating during heavy loads & long gaming sessions.
An Indian looking guy I can listen to without having a headache. Good job!
Dude you have no idea how much this video helped me out I'm trying to build a PC for the first time and I didn't know what would be the best processor for me now I know i5 all the way I thought it was going to be crap
Results seem inconclusive outside of the benchmark. Problem is some games utilize the CPU more than others.
Another problem with your testing is that you used different motherboards and didn't measure or calculate for differing bus speeds.
Thanks for the data dude heres a sub
thanks for the review. very simple and useful!
I paired a 8350/970 a very balanced combo imo. I just ordered a 6700k/Asus VIII Hero alpha mobo with 3200mhz DDR4 Gskill ram. can't wait to build.
It's actually pretty impressive that the Athlon 5350 can keep up with playable framerates even in CPU-intensive titles. People on a budget who want's current-gen console quality could probably look into pairing the processor with a GTX 750Ti/950 and get a rig that is both responsive and can play games rather well. The impressive thing is that you can probably play The Witcher 3 reasonably well with medium/high settings 1080p30fps for a fraction of the money it will cost to go for the i5 or i7. However, a i5 or i7 will most definitely be more future proof as modern titles tends to be more taxing on CPUs. Anyway, I'm getting a am1 for the living room, I could probably even go completely silent with a Arctic Cooling Alpine M1 passive and a semi-passive silverstone-sfx power supply :)
Excellent and informative video! Thank you!
Hi i have an it 4690k and a gtx 970 but i want to upgrade tot 980 TI, will it bottleneck my current cpu the gtx 980 ti ?
and also i have a seasonic m12ii-620w evo editionion is my PSU enough for my 4690k 4.4 GHz and a 980 TI ?
Thx for your help !
You really didn't talk about any games with extreme CPU workloads, it was all games that offload the vast majority of the work to the GPU. I'd be interested in seeing how Cities Skylines stacks up between the newest lower end and higher end CPU's with otherwise identical hardware.
Use a mid grade or low grade GPU and do the same test again you will see that the difference would be virtually zero...
Hey I remember when this video was relevant 😀
For pure gaming the 8320 is an amazing value - it performs right up there with chips almost double its price
I've seen a few of these videos now. It seems pretty evident that CPU's aren't really that important if all you wanna do is get 60fps at reasonably high-medium settings at 1080p. It seems like a better choice to get a lower end cpu, most likely AMD, over clock it to whatever you can get with stock cooling, and put more money into the graphics card.
I've been researching a lot over the past week and ultimate opted to go with Intel and Nvidia i5-4590 and GTX 960. Not the most price efficient, but I do more than just gaming. I do a lot of work with Virtual Machines and I want to start gaming on Linux and in the Linux community it's pretty much unanimous that Radeon drivers suck on Linux.
Happy Hardware hunting to all of you.
7:45 of course the CPUs will perform similar if you have the graphics maxed out. This happens because not the CPU is limiting the framerate but the graphics card. So it's not a very meaningful test.
I'd like to see this test redone with DX12 titles. Bet those AMD FX CPUs would see a big performance increase.
this is not a gpu test...
iceagex
It's a test comparison on CPUs.. CPUs are affected by DX12, if you were somehow unaware.
Bryan A affected by not much really...
iceagex
Sorry but you'd be wrong. DX12 will allow the full use of the CPU during gaming, as opposed to using 2-4 cores. So for an 8-core FX cpu, who could only utilize 4 cores in a DX11 gaming environment would experience a huge performance boost utilizing all 8 more efficiently, in DX12.
Bryan A just search on youtube if you want, and you won't see any HUGE difference right now.
Thanks MW Technology for this video
Need to show things like frame time variance and lowest recorded frames and the like. Those things are very important.
I have the 5820k, 16 GB Ram and GTX 980Ti the Performance is awsome ! Run all Games in 4K. By expensiver and run the next 4 to five years or replace in 2 !
At the prices mentioned, it would seem as the 8320 is the actual bang for buck deal.
But where I live, 8320 is actually slightly costlier than a i5 4440 (which performs on the same level, faster in some games), and just a bit cheaper than 4690 [ 4440 is around 11.5k INR, 8320 12.5k and 4690 is 14k ].
In such a situation, I would find the i5 to be a better overall choice.
Got an fx8350 a few weeks ago, seems to be doing fine
is it good for recording? like I wanna do csgo recordings and have u tried recording With it?
+Benedict Callander i use shadowplay for my recording so i dont even notice any problems
I remember my instructor used an 8-core fx chip for a server. That thing overheated and overheated. This was before the chips came with radiators. We put a bigger heatsink on and hooked everything back up. Turned the power on and zap. The motherboard shorted out near the cpu socket. Had no idea what happened. Maybe the cpu was on its last legs when the rush of power came from turning it on.
Nice. I'm running a 4 monitor setup 1 over 3, with the 3 in surround at 5860x1080. BF4 at ultra settings ran at 118FPS.
MW Technology Great detailed video!! Kudos from India
of course the higher end AMD cpu has got to be running the most watts. making it run the hottest
It depends on how you use it. FX8xxx requires much less voltage than you think. I'm running my FX-8350 @ 4.3Ghz at ... less than stock voltage. Cool and quiet mate, cool and quiet.
+AirsoftAddicted true it's not as bad as the FX 9590 that thing runs hotter than the blazes of Mt saint Helens
This video helped so much thank you!
isn't there a intel i5 6400 cpu too and isn't that better thant the one mentioned in the vide?
Yes but it wasn't released when this video was made.
Still gaming with 3 1080p monitors, im using a watercooled phenom 955 @ 3.8ghz and 8gb ddr2 1066. My video card still is and always has been the bottle neck, started with an ATI 4890, AMD 6870, AMD 7950, AMD 7950 x 2 in that order. Only now (6-7 years later) do I genuinely think my £120 CPU is starting to show its age in real world use, although it never seems to be an actual bottleneck! It still outperforms my video cards generally speaking. Many may disagree.
From thsi there really isn't a reason to get the latest CPU then. Knowledge that was already out there, but this veido certainly does prove it. All you need is about a $175 dollar cpu and youre golden. Unless the extra 5-6 fps makes a difference to you. Good video.
You should have done this test with the 8350 or the 8370, as these were the chips people would have ACTUALLY bought when you did this video.
wow I never would have thought the 5350 would perform so well being amd and not even overclocked. I find that very surprising
i got an Amd 9590 and it performs amazing , no heating problems and got it to 5.0ghz
Thanks for the interesting comparison using the lowly Kabini 5350 And the I7 12 thread monster. I was really surprised at how well the 5350 performed for such a low powered basic computer. :) I would probably get a Intel 6 core 12 thread CPU for future proofing and better single core threaded capabilities though.. Nice review :)
Hey there. I don't think it's right comparison at all.
1. First off, I think it's IS important to show overclock stats of the CPUs. It's quite vital piece of information, at least as gaming goes.
2. Secondly, if you weren't planning to do any overclocking, why would you pick K chips for Intel? It makes more sense to take non-K chips as they are cheaper.
3. Games that are represented in the benchmarks are not really that CPU-bound as far as I know. This review missing ones like Total War, Cities: Skylines, some MMO's, etc. In some cases CPU might be a bottleneck even with good GPU onboard.
4. I might have missed it, but I think there was no information about motherboards at all.
I have fx-4130 3.80 GHz CPU
R9 280x GPU
2133 MHz 8 GB Hyperx Beast
650W PSU
I know the CPU is a bottleneck, so i am considering a upgrade after the Christmas money $$
What would you recommend? (Have in mind i don't want to spend tons of money)