This is such a great question, I had to get out the punch pin and hammer to find out. It is 1 pound, 2.4 ounces / ~522g. By comparison, my LH9 slide (which is a 1911 style affair) is only 10.4 ounces / ~295g. The P5 seen in the video is only 10 ounces / ~283g. So, the Hi Point slide is almost double the weight of a locked breech type slide.
Should've never let the colonialist elite scumbags take their gun's away. 4 months later and we are looking down the barrel of over reaching elites trying to turn America into Europe and Australia. They want disarmed Americans and endless lock downs and 💉's while their guard dog packs of police wander the streets keeping us in check. .
Mine too. And I've owned several over the years. 4 currently. I've never had to mess with the mags or anything. When new, I load and unload the mag several times and then leave it fully loaded for a week or 2. I have found downloading the mag a round from full makes charging the gun much smoother. My 40 and 45 both came new with their feedramps polished. My 9's didn't.
thanks for the video. I have owned several Hi-Points bought new and used. I have generally found them reliable but parts do fail over time including the safety so do not depend on it. Thankfully Hi-Point will send you replacement parts at no charge.
My wife started shooting with a .380 Hi Point and myself on the 9mm. They were great guns that went bang every time! After we became more familiar with handguns, we upgraded. Sold both Hi Points for a little more that I paid for them. They were very easy to sell because of the attractive prices.
I’m looking for a 380 right now for my wife I figure it’s gonna be so heavy it wouldn’t have much recoil also looking for 380 carbine for same reason for her lol
to be honest,, a woman should have no problem shooting a hi point 40. i know they r heavy but the recoil is absolutely non aggressive. 4+1/2 in barrel and heavy = easy to handle or no hard recoil. the 1 st time i shot it i was impressed with the lower recoil.
Absolutely love my C9. No problems of any kind. Love the name given in another comment. This now my "cast iron frying pan gun". Get one; you will love it!
Never owned one myself but shot one, and regardless of what people say, the one I shot was an absolute tack driver. I shot tighter groups with it than I did the Smith and wesson I was shooting at the time.
Inexpensive guns that most people can swing even on a tight budget. 100% USA made & sourced. The added benefit of that chunky slide is it reduces felt recoil dramatically. The great thing about buying a hi-point is: they have one of the best warranty & customer service departments in the industry. Now they do have room for improvements & if they ever make versions of their guns that accept glock pattern magazines...they will double their sales over night IMHO.
Yeah, they actually tried to do that with the new Yeet Cannon, which hasn't been released yet. But the way these mags work is so weird, they'd have to completely redesign the gun from the ground up to be able to work with glock mags. So.... sadly no go.
Good video, there is a level of genius in the Hipoint design. Extremely durable with a high level of accuracy attributable to the fixed barrel. All that heavy coating on the slide is very rugged, much more than higher end pistols. Top it off with very serviceable and adjustable sights, and the Hipoint is a remarkably shootable design.
I remember how much people gave this thing crap, but it shoots and it does it's job well! I'm going for the .45 version myself, apparently lots of good reviews!
My first gun was the HP .40. $180 Got my CCL with it. Worked flawlessly. Way better than the improperly maintained stainless steel 1911 the guy next to me had. Donated it to a Pastor friend of mine. Love my Camo 1095. Running Buffalo Bore 220 gr hard cast and Doubletap ammo 155gr SC-HP. She’s a beast
Those HP pistols clean up well and respond to some TLC. Take them apart, clean up the edges on the stamped parts and put them back together with a good grease. The fixed barrel means consistent accuracy.
@@boats6771 LoL Thousands. Try dozens, as in couple of dozens. Which is still a respectable and appreciated thing to do, but Hi-Point is a very small company by most standards.
Possibly THE best up close breakdowns of Hi-Point parts and operation. There is some (unintended I’m sure) misunderstanding of modern die casting and injection molding technology BUT only those actually familiar with the aforementioned will notice. Overall a well done presentation, thank you!
Our family purchased two Hi Point C9 and one Hi Point 380 ACP for $159 each new in the boxes in late November 2021. We also purchased two Hi Point 995TS 9mm Carbines for under $300 each in December 2021 (this month). I also put a Hi Point 4595 45 ACP Carbine on layaway this month for $429, new in the box at a pawn shop. We have 5 hunting rifles in 30-06 and .243, but needed some semi-auto guns for our family armory. Still looking for a Hi Point 4095 40 S&W carbine, a 1095 10mm carbine, a ,40 S&W pistol and .45 ACP pistol. We would like it if Hi Point made a .17 HMR Carbine for that 200 yard range. If Kalashnikov was alive in modern USA and was making guns, they would be the Hi Point guns. Only they would be 5 star rated instead of 4.3 to 4.7 star rated. When holding them, I do feel like my Comrade Patriots slaved to build them for us.
This video is interesting because it's both informative (about other guns) and lacking (on some important Hi Point details). There's another similar video where the creator describes how this gun works, and the materials, without the quips, references to "pot metal" (he described exactly the makeup of the alloy), and he must have had a better experience with the C9 than you did because he did not advise that we could expect lots of FTF's, and bad reliability. In fact, there was a detailed overview of why the fixed barrel design results in the gun having good accuracy, and the slide weight reducing felt recoil.
The worst that could happen is it breaks/dead trigger and you send it in for repairs other than that unless you are messing with the recoil spring nothing could go wrong and there is no way it could become unsafe. Though if it somehow runs away keep it aimed at your target till it runs out of ammo and again the only worry about a runaway would be messing with the recoil spring not the sear spring as a extra power recoil spring could break the sear if it hits hard enough and fast enough turning it into a full auto gun which wears down the breach block fast compromising the seal of the bullet which could blow up the gun. Now how long it would take for the breach to break i don't know could be a month of wearing it down in full auto for all i know. Usually if a runaway occurs that means something malfunctioned in the gun and usually it is the recoil spring so replace it and you are good to go. Now it is only illegal if you choose to not take action and remove the faulty part as then you would have a unregistered Machinegun that can blow up on you if you shoot it too much as it was not meant to slam that hard into Zamak 3 and granted it may not actually harm you or kill you but your gun will be inoperable if it actually blows up. And the reason why i say i don't know when it would break is because Hi-Points can take a lot of abuse to break and at other times can break with ease. Now i know you are more worried about runaways but you really don't have to be if you have a lighter sear spring in unless using really hot rounds that forces the firing pin past the sear due to the spring due to the spring being light and usually that is just custom reloads or if the bullet is pushed into the case too much
Just bought a C9 after yrs of wanting 1 put having the gun snob issue lol I've been putting off until now I shot a buddies loved it so got my own. Hey just a thx much for this vid very informative. New subscriber enjoying ur vids.
Nicely done. You have to give HiPoint firearms the credit they are due. They make inexpensive and reliable firearms that literally ANYBODY can afford. Call me crazy but I like the way the C9 looks-it has a genuinely different look and feel. People who own HiPoints, with rare exception, love them. Most of the haters have never even held one, let alone shot one. There is a place for expensive firearms and there is a place for inexpensive ones. If you go to their website they have some text where they talk about the vision for the company that is pretty interesting. They do what they say and they say what they do. Plus, it is good to know that these are made in America.
@@theasin_old this the same guy that literally torture tested one, including shooting it with another gun, and couldn't get it to fail? Yeah all he did was give hi point a big boost by proving they fire no matter what. He can hate them all he wants. Doesn't seem to be able to break them though
Fantastic video! I’ve always wanted someone to do an in-depth video of the innards of a hi-point and how it is made/works. Good job! Hope to see future videos on weapon tear downs!
ZAMAK-3 is not a "low quality" material. It's a less expensive alloy that has great strength, toughness and durability for certain applications. The slide of the C9 doesn't require the stress resistance of steel, but it does require weight for the blowback operation to function, both are achieved with ZAMAK, all at a lower cost. I fully expect my reliable 1998 C9 to last far past my lifetime.
Well, as a casting alloy, Zamak-3 is really good. As a zinc alloy, Zamak-3 is pretty great. However, when counted among all materials, it's on the lower quality side. As I mentioned in the video, the main part of the slide that takes all of the abuse is strengthened with a steel insert. You are correct that most of the slide doesn't need to be particularly strong. The Zamak-3 is mostly there to be easily cast, and be heavy. It's great at that, but that doesn't make it high quality either.
Just like everything else in life not everyone lives in a 500k house drives a 75k car. Hi Point is the common man/woman's firearm simple, affordable ,and effective. Us HiPoint owner aren't carrying it to impress someone looking down the barrel with the magnificent craftsmanship and flashy design, we're carrying it to handle business.
Awesome video. I never knew you had to punch out a roll pin to disassemble the pistols. Just a quick mention… out of battery detonations with pistol calibers are usually not too big of a deal. Especially in unlocked firearms like a blowback pistol… simply put pressure will never get high enough to damage the gun or really hurt the shooter. Usually it’s extracting under pressure and at some point the case will rupture at an unsupported location. Ian from Forgotten Weapons mentions this and even shows video of an out of battery detonation in a sub gun. If you’re interested the video is called “why and how guns explode” or something to that effect. He talks about out of and in battery detonations and specifically Kentucky Ballistic’s .50cal SLAP detonation that destroyed his Serbu and almost killed him. Very interesting.
Great video, thanks for the close up look at the guts of these things. For anyone who cares the "plumbus" is called the "slide retainer" - I had to look that up but I feel better now that I know.....
Even on cheap blank guns the breech face and the part behind it where the cartridge in the mag rides along it when the slide is pushed back is made out of a steel insert. Zinc will deform easily and it just so happens that a hole is in the breech face. Doh the firing pin hole. After a while, it could deform and not be round anymore, hindering the firing pin/striker moving forward and not igniting the round anymore. On blank guns without a steel breech face that can happen just after a few hundred rounds. Also you can shoot steel case ammo and brass case and so on. Steel cases will destroy a zinc breech face in no time. Cast parts can also be machined in areas where necessary. For example on the slide rails where a bit more exact tolerances have to be kept. So you can see machining marks on cast parts as well.
I always had a problem with 8 rounds in the mag, they were the original magsbut if I loaded 7 I had no problem when racking the slide, other than that I had no problems 15 years ago when I had one, some light primer strikes on tula ammo only. Plus you could beat someone with it after you ran out of ammo!!
I always download my hi Point mags down 1 round. They do seem to run much better doing so. I've had great luck with all their guns. And their customer service is the best in the business.
I just bought a c9 first time I shot the gun I had to stuff the 8 round in. I took it out and shot 7 . I've put 80 rounds through it no jams and plenty accurate enough. I like this 169.00 pistol. I think most of the bad comments are BS.
Well done! Lol. I don't own a Hi Point but I now know more about it than my Glock. All guns should have a Plombus. In fact most mechanical systems should adopt a Plombus. Plombus is now in my predictive text.
Very cool. Thank you for showing the safety operation. My sense is that (assuming it doesn't easily sweep off unintentionally) it is adequate for carry with a loaded chamber. I would love it if you did a detailed video like this on lubricating the C9 and suggested lubes. (Frog Lube?)
The safety is so-so. It's safe-ish. It could be knocked off accidentally, but so could a lot of safeties. This gun is huge and heavy and not good for carry. Lube is lube. Grease is good around the recoil spring and in the channel with the plombus. That's about it.
I've seen alot of hi point videos but nothing like this. It is the perfect combination knowledge and humor lol. That said the beauty is in the simplicity. I often find myself defending them against gun snobs. I have had several in the past and always sold them not because they didn't work, but because I got hard up for money I will get another and keep it. Honestly the new yeet 9mm does nothing for me and I will get the standard c9. They are very underrated usually by those that speak from second hand knowledge rather than personal experience
It’s actually a very interesting design but the downside to it seems to be the casting and if you got a hi point that shoots well that means you’ve gotten good casting!
I had an Erma 22lr that looked a lot like the hi-point internally. I bought a 9mm hi-point for a truck and fishing gun, it is butt ugly but it is extremely reliable. After firing over 1000 rounds through mine I still like it but I wouldn’t recommend shooting +p rounds through it.
Thanks for the video. Hi Points are one of those things, I agree they are interesting in their simplicity and techniques to make a cheap product that works. But watching this and also being fascinated by all of that, it's kind of like watching a biologists dissecting biological waste and finding all of their tidbit facts fascinating, yet fundamentally repulsive in so many ways. I think undeservedly, Hi Points have become the macaroni with hot dogs status symbol that proves someone isn't a gun snob, like it gives some connection for someone with dozens of multiple thousand dollar firearms to the lowly street people who can only afford some piece of crap boat anchor, aka Hi Point. They should sell a "my other gun is a C9" sticker so that these people aren't mistakable as a gun snob at the gun range with all their fancy high end firearms. "Nah man, it's cool..it's COOL... I gotta Hi Point too, man. I'm down." Me, I'm going to pass on owning a Hi Point. If I ever HAVE TO buy one, I will. But for the sake of earning the "I'm not too good to own a Hi Point" merit badge, I'll pass.
especially since most people look at Hi-point like they would Glock or Walther where they are massive corporations with lots of equipment and staff. Hi-point has a small werehouse office building with 40 people working in it with limited equipment. with what they have to work with and what they have to put up with (especially since they've had fires and disaster hit them) they are a hell of a lot more than what people give them credit for.
@@thatguybrody4819 It seems like you didn't read my entire comment. Maybe, maybe not? It's kind of difficult to read your post, and that you are agreeing with my points, as your post begins with "especially since". It's more like you're passive/aggressive disagreeing. But I digress. I disagree that the things you list make Hi Point special in some way. There's many smaller companies that fight and struggle every day, I'm sure much more so than Hi Point. Cereal and tools are great analogies to use here. I'll buy off brand cereal, if it's basically the same cereal as the name brand. I don't care about the box or the brand. But if the cereal has hair in it, no thanks. Same with tools, I don't own any Snap-on tool, or MAC tool, I have a lot of nice tools, many expensive. I even own quite a few Harbor Freight tools. But again, I don't own any of Harbor Freights tools that have hair in them. So let's look at Hi Point, using the analogies above. Do they sell a product that works? Yes. Is it basically the same thing as a Glock, Walther, Sig, S&W. NO. THEY ARE EXTREMELY FAR FROM THOSE BRANDS. Am I getting basically the same quality as the bigger brands, just at a lower price? NO. THEY ARE EXTREMELY FAR FROM THOSE BRANDS. Now, what do I consider much more along the lines of store brand "lucky charms" and Lucky Charms as far as major brands and value? Well, how about Taurus G2/G3 lines? A G3 is much more like a Glock, or Sig, yet still very reasonably priced. And they aren't like junky clunky tonner Hi Points at all, except that like Hi Points, normally a bullet comes out the end of the barrel when you pull the trigger.
@@rimfire2642 i'm not comparing Hi-Point to Glock or Sig. i'm saying people often hold Hi-Point to those standards when reviewing it and that's kind of stupid. it's a 2-300 dollar gun not a 600+ dollar gun. when looking for a beginner car would you compare how good the old honda is to a Mercedes or a BMW? no. you compare it to other cars in that price range. they get out guns that work really well for how cheaply they have to make them and the materials used.
@@thatguybrody4819 This is where it's actually your head that doesn't make sense. Look, could any of the gun manufacturers make their version of a Hi Point and sell it for $200? YES, THEY ALL COULD. The fact that Hi Point makes a functional product and sells it cheaply BECAUSE IT IS CHEAP, HEAVY, BASICALLY UNUSABLE AS CONCEALED CARRY, PIECE OF CRAP ETC. ETC., doesn't mean they're something special about them. Crap doesn't cost a whole lot to make, even if it functionally serves the purpose of crap, being brown and smelly.. If Hi Point WERE MAKING SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO $600 guns and selling at $200 THEN THEY WOULD BE SOMETHING SPECIAL. Again, I would give my hats off to Taurus much more so than Hi Point, as their inexpensive G2/G3 lines were/are functionally similar to $600 guns. Again, cereal analogy. I'm not getting "lucky charms" with Hi Point. I'm getting cereal made out of cardboard, saw dust, and left over oats. It's cheap because it's CHEAP. Yeah, I can..well.. YOU CAN eat that cereal all you want and say "well it's cereal". And yes, maybe my store brand cereal cost a little more than hi point cereal, but it's also as good as the name brand Lucky Charms while costing significantly less.
@@rimfire2642 it's cheap. it's made of crappy materials. it's heavy. yes will give you that. but unusable and piece of crap is where i call bull. basically unusable as concealed carry is also bull because there are videos on how to do it and sometimes it's all people have so they have to. it's definitely usable you just have to work with it and practice. piece of crap, now i can say that SCCY and (maybe?) Kel-Tec deserve that more than Hi-Point. plus you find _Plenty_of people saying Taurus is a crappy. there are things Hi-point does that big companies should excel at like decent customer service (which Hi-Point is known for being one of if not the best). Hi-Point cares about it's firearms and the people who buy them unlike some bigger companies. and the cerial comparison i'd say it's like comparing rice crispies. offbrand and onbrand both taste mostly the same, but one has better box art and namebrand superiority. Hi-Point is a gun that looks and feels cheap but still works basically as good as the other guns that add on ergonomics and nick-nacks to make it look pretty.
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What is the slide weight of that pistol?
This is such a great question, I had to get out the punch pin and hammer to find out.
It is 1 pound, 2.4 ounces / ~522g.
By comparison, my LH9 slide (which is a 1911 style affair) is only 10.4 ounces / ~295g. The P5 seen in the video is only 10 ounces / ~283g.
So, the Hi Point slide is almost double the weight of a locked breech type slide.
@@firydeth interesting
The weight of my full auto Uzi bolt is 513 grams
@@firydeth The only difference between both guns is that the Hi Point C9 is Lord of all Guns!
*Heavy*
@@d2nasty696 straight up
Y'all can talk s*** about High Point is still go bang
There are millions of Australians and British that would kill for a hipoint.
Should've never let the colonialist elite scumbags take their gun's away. 4 months later and we are looking down the barrel of over reaching elites trying to turn America into Europe and Australia. They want disarmed Americans and endless lock downs and 💉's while their guard dog packs of police wander the streets keeping us in check. .
Our northern neighbors are beginning to find that out, also...
Germans as well.
I 💘 my cast iron frying pan gun.
Lol
Thanks for the video. I have 3 Hi-Points and like them all. I have the C-9, the 45JHP, and the 995. They are all great shooters.
me to and yes they are great
My C-9 ran great, right out of the box!!! No mag problem, no jams, nothing!!
Mine too. And I've owned several over the years. 4 currently. I've never had to mess with the mags or anything. When new, I load and unload the mag several times and then leave it fully loaded for a week or 2. I have found downloading the mag a round from full makes charging the gun much smoother. My 40 and 45 both came new with their feedramps polished. My 9's didn't.
Same
I’ve never had a FTF after many, many 100’s of rounds.
My .45 is not fat! It is big-slided!
thanks for the video. I have owned several Hi-Points bought new and used. I have generally found them reliable but parts do fail over time including the safety so do not depend on it. Thankfully Hi-Point will send you replacement parts at no charge.
My experience exactly! And their customer service is the best in the business.
My wife started shooting with a .380 Hi Point and myself on the 9mm.
They were great guns that went bang every time!
After we became more familiar with handguns, we upgraded.
Sold both Hi Points for a little more that I paid for them.
They were very easy to sell because of the attractive prices.
I’m looking for a 380 right now for my wife I figure it’s gonna be so heavy it wouldn’t have much recoil also looking for 380 carbine for same reason for her lol
@@flipflop8989 You might want to go with a 9mm for the carbine. Low recoil and cheaper and much more available ammo.
True What I’ll prob do
to be honest,, a woman should have no problem shooting a hi point 40. i know they r heavy but the recoil is absolutely non aggressive. 4+1/2 in barrel and heavy = easy to handle or no hard recoil. the 1 st time i shot it i was impressed with the lower recoil.
“So, what you doing?”
“I’m polishing the slide rails on my High Point pistol.”
Absolutely love my C9. No problems of any kind. Love the name given in another comment. This now my "cast iron frying pan gun". Get one; you will love it!
My Hipoints ran very good right out of the box. The pistols and carbines are very good.
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Never owned one myself but shot one, and regardless of what people say, the one I shot was an absolute tack driver. I shot tighter groups with it than I did the Smith and wesson I was shooting at the time.
When We Dead and Gone Hi-Point it still be here
The High Point 9 works very well, love it.
Inexpensive guns that most people can swing even on a tight budget. 100% USA made & sourced. The added benefit of that chunky slide is it reduces felt recoil dramatically. The great thing about buying a hi-point is: they have one of the best warranty & customer service departments in the industry. Now they do have room for improvements & if they ever make versions of their guns that accept glock pattern magazines...they will double their sales over night IMHO.
Yeah, they actually tried to do that with the new Yeet Cannon, which hasn't been released yet. But the way these mags work is so weird, they'd have to completely redesign the gun from the ground up to be able to work with glock mags. So.... sadly no go.
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I miss my hi point 45 it had phenomenal aim and barely kicked
Good video, there is a level of genius in the Hipoint design. Extremely durable with a high level of accuracy attributable to the fixed barrel. All that heavy coating on the slide is very rugged, much more than higher end pistols. Top it off with very serviceable and adjustable sights, and the Hipoint is a remarkably shootable design.
And they have the best customer service in the business.
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That warranty, tho.
Gregg Strasser it’s what made me get one. Lol I have wanted one for so long.
I remember how much people gave this thing crap, but it shoots and it does it's job well! I'm going for the .45 version myself, apparently lots of good reviews!
My first gun was the HP .40.
$180
Got my CCL with it. Worked flawlessly.
Way better than the improperly maintained stainless steel 1911 the guy next to me had.
Donated it to a Pastor friend of mine.
Love my Camo 1095.
Running Buffalo Bore 220 gr hard cast and Doubletap ammo 155gr SC-HP.
She’s a beast
A pastor with a hi point? Lol thats dope
@@alepepperoni2563 "Say your prayers, my child, because I won't."
(Bang)
Those HP pistols clean up well and respond to some TLC. Take them apart, clean up the edges on the stamped parts and put them back together with a good grease. The fixed barrel means consistent accuracy.
Great company that was originally started by two guys in a garage with an idea.
Great my ass
@@bigmac5753 Hi point is responsible for giving thousands of Americans jobs after multiple automotive factories went down in the Midwest long ago
@@boats6771 LoL Thousands. Try dozens, as in couple of dozens. Which is still a respectable and appreciated thing to do, but Hi-Point is a very small company by most standards.
@@TheSwoopDog lol fair enough. That’s what I heard from a video
Apple?
Possibly THE best up close breakdowns of Hi-Point parts and operation. There is some (unintended I’m sure) misunderstanding of modern die casting and injection molding technology BUT only those actually familiar with the aforementioned will notice. Overall a well done presentation, thank you!
Our family purchased two Hi Point C9 and one Hi Point 380 ACP for $159 each new in the boxes in late November 2021. We also purchased two Hi Point 995TS 9mm Carbines for under $300 each in December 2021 (this month). I also put a Hi Point 4595 45 ACP Carbine on layaway this month for $429, new in the box at a pawn shop. We have 5 hunting rifles in 30-06 and .243, but needed some semi-auto guns for our family armory. Still looking for a Hi Point 4095 40 S&W carbine, a 1095 10mm carbine, a ,40 S&W pistol and .45 ACP pistol. We would like it if Hi Point made a .17 HMR Carbine for that 200 yard range.
If Kalashnikov was alive in modern USA and was making guns, they would be the Hi Point guns.
Only they would be 5 star rated instead of 4.3 to 4.7 star rated.
When holding them, I do feel like my Comrade Patriots slaved to build them for us.
i just got a c9 from a pawn shot for 100 bucks got a box and a half trow it no jams our any thing
Nice
the AK of pistols
Amazing breakdown of how the gun works! Best ive seen!
This video is interesting because it's both informative (about other guns) and lacking (on some important Hi Point details). There's another similar video where the creator describes how this gun works, and the materials, without the quips, references to "pot metal" (he described exactly the makeup of the alloy), and he must have had a better experience with the C9 than you did because he did not advise that we could expect lots of FTF's, and bad reliability. In fact, there was a detailed overview of why the fixed barrel design results in the gun having good accuracy, and the slide weight reducing felt recoil.
Outstanding camera work and presentation! Very informative indeed.
I personally wouldn't recommend installing a lighter than factory sear spring or polishing the sear. Either could make your HP unsafe.
The worst that could happen is it breaks/dead trigger and you send it in for repairs other than that unless you are messing with the recoil spring nothing could go wrong and there is no way it could become unsafe. Though if it somehow runs away keep it aimed at your target till it runs out of ammo and again the only worry about a runaway would be messing with the recoil spring not the sear spring as a extra power recoil spring could break the sear if it hits hard enough and fast enough turning it into a full auto gun which wears down the breach block fast compromising the seal of the bullet which could blow up the gun. Now how long it would take for the breach to break i don't know could be a month of wearing it down in full auto for all i know.
Usually if a runaway occurs that means something malfunctioned in the gun and usually it is the recoil spring so replace it and you are good to go. Now it is only illegal if you choose to not take action and remove the faulty part as then you would have a unregistered Machinegun that can blow up on you if you shoot it too much as it was not meant to slam that hard into Zamak 3 and granted it may not actually harm you or kill you but your gun will be inoperable if it actually blows up. And the reason why i say i don't know when it would break is because Hi-Points can take a lot of abuse to break and at other times can break with ease.
Now i know you are more worried about runaways but you really don't have to be if you have a lighter sear spring in unless using really hot rounds that forces the firing pin past the sear due to the spring due to the spring being light and usually that is just custom reloads or if the bullet is pushed into the case too much
i was so close to looking for a video with the highpoint carbine breakdown lmao good one
My Hi-Point is NOT fat, it's INERTIALLY ENHANCED!!
Good video man can you do a trigger mod video, the best you can get it?
GREAT to see your videos again!!!!
Just bought a C9 after yrs of wanting 1 put having the gun snob issue lol I've been putting off until now I shot a buddies loved it so got my own. Hey just a thx much for this vid very informative. New subscriber enjoying ur vids.
So...if orcs carried handguns, they would carry Hi-Points? Great and informative video.
Nicely done. You have to give HiPoint firearms the credit they are due. They make inexpensive and reliable firearms that literally ANYBODY can afford. Call me crazy but I like the way the C9 looks-it has a genuinely different look and feel. People who own HiPoints, with rare exception, love them. Most of the haters have never even held one, let alone shot one. There is a place for expensive firearms and there is a place for inexpensive ones.
If you go to their website they have some text where they talk about the vision for the company that is pretty interesting. They do what they say and they say what they do. Plus, it is good to know that these are made in America.
Say that to DemoRanch. He hates HiPoints no matter what.
@@theasin_old this the same guy that literally torture tested one, including shooting it with another gun, and couldn't get it to fail? Yeah all he did was give hi point a big boost by proving they fire no matter what. He can hate them all he wants. Doesn't seem to be able to break them though
Realiable my ass you people are funny
Well said. I own a 995TS, and really like it.
@@theasin_old He may hate them, but he does some of their best advertising.
this was wonderful and entertaining, thanks good info.
If orcs carried guns, they'd carry the Hi-Point C-9! Respect! Great vid!
I think they'd probably go with the new 10mm
@@firydeth Lol!
Fantastic video! I’ve always wanted someone to do an in-depth video of the innards of a hi-point and how it is made/works. Good job! Hope to see future videos on weapon tear downs!
Thanks, I try.
Your “ hook thing” you keep referencing is called a sear.
Say What??????????????
ZAMAK-3 is not a "low quality" material. It's a less expensive alloy that has great strength, toughness and durability for certain applications. The slide of the C9 doesn't require the stress resistance of steel, but it does require weight for the blowback operation to function, both are achieved with ZAMAK, all at a lower cost. I fully expect my reliable 1998 C9 to last far past my lifetime.
Well, as a casting alloy, Zamak-3 is really good. As a zinc alloy, Zamak-3 is pretty great. However, when counted among all materials, it's on the lower quality side.
As I mentioned in the video, the main part of the slide that takes all of the abuse is strengthened with a steel insert. You are correct that most of the slide doesn't need to be particularly strong. The Zamak-3 is mostly there to be easily cast, and be heavy. It's great at that, but that doesn't make it high quality either.
Just like everything else in life not everyone lives in a 500k house drives a 75k car. Hi Point is the common man/woman's firearm simple, affordable ,and effective. Us HiPoint owner aren't carrying it to impress someone looking down the barrel with the magnificent craftsmanship and flashy design, we're carrying it to handle business.
Awesome video. I never knew you had to punch out a roll pin to disassemble the pistols. Just a quick mention… out of battery detonations with pistol calibers are usually not too big of a deal. Especially in unlocked firearms like a blowback pistol… simply put pressure will never get high enough to damage the gun or really hurt the shooter. Usually it’s extracting under pressure and at some point the case will rupture at an unsupported location. Ian from Forgotten Weapons mentions this and even shows video of an out of battery detonation in a sub gun. If you’re interested the video is called “why and how guns explode” or something to that effect. He talks about out of and in battery detonations and specifically Kentucky Ballistic’s .50cal SLAP detonation that destroyed his Serbu and almost killed him. Very interesting.
Thank you so much for calling that part a "Plumbus". I am now 100 % a subscriber. Think it may need some more "fleem".
Great video, thanks for the close up look at the guts of these things. For anyone who cares the "plumbus" is called the "slide retainer" - I had to look that up but I feel better now that I know.....
Learning is FUN!
Even on cheap blank guns the breech face and the part behind it where the cartridge in the mag rides along it when the slide is pushed back is made out of a steel insert. Zinc will deform easily and it just so happens that a hole is in the breech face. Doh the firing pin hole. After a while, it could deform and not be round anymore, hindering the firing pin/striker moving forward and not igniting the round anymore. On blank guns without a steel breech face that can happen just after a few hundred rounds. Also you can shoot steel case ammo and brass case and so on. Steel cases will destroy a zinc breech face in no time. Cast parts can also be machined in areas where necessary. For example on the slide rails where a bit more exact tolerances have to be kept. So you can see machining marks on cast parts as well.
Lmao it’s a pain to take apart trust me, ok so I took it apart.
Great informative video. Good job, Thanks
Thanks, I try.
I clicked cause of the thumbnail. Watching Trigun and various other animes like cowboy bebop and hellsing as a kid influenced my love for firearms
The groovy Peanuts music is perfect for this video. Thanks for a great explanation vid! Peace!
Who came up with the idea that protecting yourself and your family has to look good, My thoughts are whatever makes that dog hunt works for me 🤔.
I replaced the recoil and trigger spring in my 4595ts and it worked just fine. Getting ready to do my 995ts next. Simplicity sometimes can be better.
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I always had a problem with 8 rounds in the mag, they were the original magsbut if I loaded 7 I had no problem when racking the slide, other than that I had no problems 15 years ago when I had one, some light primer strikes on tula ammo only. Plus you could beat someone with it after you ran out of ammo!!
I always download my hi Point mags down 1 round. They do seem to run much better doing so. I've had great luck with all their guns. And their customer service is the best in the business.
I just bought a c9 first time I shot the gun I had to stuff the 8 round in. I took it out and shot 7 . I've put 80 rounds through it no jams and plenty accurate enough. I like this 169.00 pistol. I think most of the bad comments are BS.
Great review my c9 is very reliable and powerful
Well done! Lol. I don't own a Hi Point but I now know more about it than my Glock. All guns should have a Plombus. In fact most mechanical systems should adopt a Plombus. Plombus is now in my predictive text.
The American Glock. Same high quality, just sexier like a big booty.
Very cool. Thank you for showing the safety operation. My sense is that (assuming it doesn't easily sweep off unintentionally) it is adequate for carry with a loaded chamber.
I would love it if you did a detailed video like this on lubricating the C9 and suggested lubes. (Frog Lube?)
The safety is so-so. It's safe-ish. It could be knocked off accidentally, but so could a lot of safeties. This gun is huge and heavy and not good for carry.
Lube is lube. Grease is good around the recoil spring and in the channel with the plombus. That's about it.
A Hi Point 45acp is only 2 ounces heavier than a Colt 45 acp Govt. model. They're just top heavy, I kinda like my women that way too!
Cool video!
Hell yes thank you! I don't want to take it apart it's a major pain. So I took it apart 😂
finally found out what a plumbus is for!
Miraculously.
that pistol made like VP70 😂😂
Use the upgrades clean and it is a great pistol very true
This is a pretty much a scaled up Jennings/Raven/Davis pistol
Thumbs up!
Yeah the .45 and 10mm are huge but as cheap as they are it's very hard to break them look at demo ranch tried breaking 100 of them pretty reliable
Can you make a full video of your carbine? Great video man. I subbed!
Thanks! I'll see what I can do.
It would be fun to have one with a steel slide & aluminium frame.
JXP10mm is Awesome...Great Shooter 0 issues!😊
I've seen alot of hi point videos but nothing like this. It is the perfect combination knowledge and humor lol. That said the beauty is in the simplicity. I often find myself defending them against gun snobs. I have had several in the past and always sold them not because they didn't work, but because I got hard up for money I will get another and keep it. Honestly the new yeet 9mm does nothing for me and I will get the standard c9. They are very underrated usually by those that speak from second hand knowledge rather than personal experience
Rick and morty joke went over a lot of heads I see
It’s actually a very interesting design but the downside to it seems to be the casting and if you got a hi point that shoots well that means you’ve gotten good casting!
I had an Erma 22lr that looked a lot like the hi-point internally. I bought a 9mm hi-point for a truck and fishing gun, it is butt ugly but it is extremely reliable. After firing over 1000 rounds through mine I still like it but I wouldn’t recommend shooting +p rounds through it.
So you can just leave out that bar to remove the mag disconnect feature?
I’m working on my second under barrel flashlight mount prototype due to the fact they don’t make one for the c9 I own
No slide milling required
I keep thinking about rick and morty when i hear plumbus
The design looks a lot like a Bryco 25.
The internals look very similar to the Jennings Ja22 and other ring of fire guns.
What cocking handle do you have on your carbine?
MCARBO, it's great!
"Inertially Enhanced" 😂🤣🤣
A gun is a gun who cares about the looks 💯
Best video on the ugliest gun made.
1:40 is kind of a myth. The spring absorbs the energy of the recoiling bolt or slide; it doesn't contribute anything to the early phase of the cycle.
Is the same mecanism as the old raven .25 and jennins but the buffer or plumbus was cheap plastic
YIKES!!
What is the coating on the mags?
They are blued... in some way or another.
@@firydeth I have some old ones and they look like plain steel.
@@rtz549 sounds plausible. I used "blued" in the very minimal sense.
Fun fact the thing you keep calling a plumbus is called a bolt retainer but let's just call it a plumbus it sounds more funny
18:35
Yes.
How much the magazine
The 8 round magazine is less than $20.
Enjoyed the detailed video.
Still would never myself or recommend anyone buy one.
My feelings remain unhurt.
Так вот для чего нужен плюмбус!
You get what you pay for...
Looks like a BB gun ..
So... the C9 is engineered like a last-ditch wartime gun?
That's probably not far off!
I thought it was a boomerang that hurts when you actually catch it
Like the simpler M3 submachine gun that replaced the 1928 Tommy gun!
looking for a threaded JHP 45 barrel.. see them all over for Glocks.. who has Hi Points??
Check out Cheaper than Dirt, they have everything you need in Highpoint.
Gen 2 JHP45 out now has Threaded Barrel!😊
Most of these RUclips gun "specialists" that criticize the HiPoint never been in the military,they're all posers and wannabees
Good guns, compared to the garbage from Kel-Tec.
Nothing better then sound of the magazine falling out of the handle of a C-9 while it’s holstered
Thanks for the video. Hi Points are one of those things, I agree they are interesting in their simplicity and techniques to make a cheap product that works. But watching this and also being fascinated by all of that, it's kind of like watching a biologists dissecting biological waste and finding all of their tidbit facts fascinating, yet fundamentally repulsive in so many ways.
I think undeservedly, Hi Points have become the macaroni with hot dogs status symbol that proves someone isn't a gun snob, like it gives some connection for someone with dozens of multiple thousand dollar firearms to the lowly street people who can only afford some piece of crap boat anchor, aka Hi Point. They should sell a "my other gun is a C9" sticker so that these people aren't mistakable as a gun snob at the gun range with all their fancy high end firearms. "Nah man, it's cool..it's COOL... I gotta Hi Point too, man. I'm down."
Me, I'm going to pass on owning a Hi Point. If I ever HAVE TO buy one, I will. But for the sake of earning the "I'm not too good to own a Hi Point" merit badge, I'll pass.
especially since most people look at Hi-point like they would Glock or Walther where they are massive corporations with lots of equipment and staff.
Hi-point has a small werehouse office building with 40 people working in it with limited equipment. with what they have to work with and what they have to put up with (especially since they've had fires and disaster hit them) they are a hell of a lot more than what people give them credit for.
@@thatguybrody4819 It seems like you didn't read my entire comment. Maybe, maybe not? It's kind of difficult to read your post, and that you are agreeing with my points, as your post begins with "especially since". It's more like you're passive/aggressive disagreeing. But I digress.
I disagree that the things you list make Hi Point special in some way. There's many smaller companies that fight and struggle every day, I'm sure much more so than Hi Point.
Cereal and tools are great analogies to use here. I'll buy off brand cereal, if it's basically the same cereal as the name brand. I don't care about the box or the brand. But if the cereal has hair in it, no thanks. Same with tools, I don't own any Snap-on tool, or MAC tool, I have a lot of nice tools, many expensive. I even own quite a few Harbor Freight tools. But again, I don't own any of Harbor Freights tools that have hair in them.
So let's look at Hi Point, using the analogies above. Do they sell a product that works? Yes. Is it basically the same thing as a Glock, Walther, Sig, S&W. NO. THEY ARE EXTREMELY FAR FROM THOSE BRANDS. Am I getting basically the same quality as the bigger brands, just at a lower price? NO. THEY ARE EXTREMELY FAR FROM THOSE BRANDS.
Now, what do I consider much more along the lines of store brand "lucky charms" and Lucky Charms as far as major brands and value? Well, how about Taurus G2/G3 lines? A G3 is much more like a Glock, or Sig, yet still very reasonably priced. And they aren't like junky clunky tonner Hi Points at all, except that like Hi Points, normally a bullet comes out the end of the barrel when you pull the trigger.
@@rimfire2642 i'm not comparing Hi-Point to Glock or Sig. i'm saying people often hold Hi-Point to those standards when reviewing it and that's kind of stupid. it's a 2-300 dollar gun not a 600+ dollar gun. when looking for a beginner car would you compare how good the old honda is to a Mercedes or a BMW? no. you compare it to other cars in that price range.
they get out guns that work really well for how cheaply they have to make them and the materials used.
@@thatguybrody4819 This is where it's actually your head that doesn't make sense. Look, could any of the gun manufacturers make their version of a Hi Point and sell it for $200? YES, THEY ALL COULD. The fact that Hi Point makes a functional product and sells it cheaply BECAUSE IT IS CHEAP, HEAVY, BASICALLY UNUSABLE AS CONCEALED CARRY, PIECE OF CRAP ETC. ETC., doesn't mean they're something special about them. Crap doesn't cost a whole lot to make, even if it functionally serves the purpose of crap, being brown and smelly..
If Hi Point WERE MAKING SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO $600 guns and selling at $200 THEN THEY WOULD BE SOMETHING SPECIAL. Again, I would give my hats off to Taurus much more so than Hi Point, as their inexpensive G2/G3 lines were/are functionally similar to $600 guns.
Again, cereal analogy. I'm not getting "lucky charms" with Hi Point. I'm getting cereal made out of cardboard, saw dust, and left over oats. It's cheap because it's CHEAP. Yeah, I can..well.. YOU CAN eat that cereal all you want and say "well it's cereal". And yes, maybe my store brand cereal cost a little more than hi point cereal, but it's also as good as the name brand Lucky Charms while costing significantly less.
@@rimfire2642 it's cheap. it's made of crappy materials. it's heavy. yes will give you that. but unusable and piece of crap is where i call bull. basically unusable as concealed carry is also bull because there are videos on how to do it and sometimes it's all people have so they have to. it's definitely usable you just have to work with it and practice. piece of crap, now i can say that SCCY and (maybe?) Kel-Tec deserve that more than Hi-Point. plus you find _Plenty_of people saying Taurus is a crappy. there are things Hi-point does that big companies should excel at like decent customer service (which Hi-Point is known for being one of if not the best). Hi-Point cares about it's firearms and the people who buy them unlike some bigger companies.
and the cerial comparison i'd say it's like comparing rice crispies. offbrand and onbrand both taste mostly the same, but one has better box art and namebrand superiority. Hi-Point is a gun that looks and feels cheap but still works basically as good as the other guns that add on ergonomics and nick-nacks to make it look pretty.
Stop calling that part a plombus! It's called the dildus.