I DATED GILGO BEACH SERIAL KILLER. INTERVIEW WITH LAUREN MATTHIAS -NEW DETAILS FROM NIKKIE BRASS
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024
- Nikki Brass says went on a date with Rex Heuermann that she will never forget. We hear never heard before details with Lauren Matthias of @HiddenTrueCrime
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@genevieve4890 Do we know Police want to speak with her? and more specifically, do we know they want to speak with her about specific info that she shared with us? I am unaware of this.
I wonder how petite this lady is?
@@HumanimalChannelshe said at 10:00 she was 5’4” and 120 lbs.
I once canceled a date and weeks later saw him on the news as a serial rapist. That changes how you do things.
wow!
I'm so glad you canceled! So glad 🫂
Whooooooooaaaaaa.
Sure you did. 🙄
Thank god you canceled. It likely saved your life. Happy you did make that smart decision 💜
It's not easy to come forward and put yourself in a position to be scrutinized and judged. I'm glad Nikkie acted according to her instincts. That may have saved her life.
Especially these days with social media and all these couch criticizers.
Maybe all these “judgers” and also judges can learn something out of that. Just wishful thinking.
Who cares? Like her "knowing" did any good? Is she expecting an award? Lady, get over yourself. This story isn't about you.
@@shilogall8038your saying who cares? Well obviously you do along with 1.8k other people who commented on this story 😂
I don't think this story is real. I know that behavior, and today there are many who want to write books or make money with the stories of another. First of all let me tell you that a murderer does not pay a prostitute and drug addict to take you to eat in a restaurant! That doesn't happen! . Let me tell you that a man pays you to have sex, not to have a romantic serious date with a prostitute and drug addicts!, much less a murderer is going to take you to a public restaurant, so that everyone can see you, and then be able to identify you and say "I saw her with that man"? Please, this story smells weird. My experience tells me: this story is not credible! It won't take the police long to figure this out, especially when they hear the restaurant's story. This woman doesn't know that lying is a crime. I don't know what people are thinking by making this stories. In conclusion, this murderer is an ogre, he deserves the highest sentence.
Let me add another thing, this woman is not 100% drug free. Her tongue, her slurred speech and other gestures of hers are signs that she is under the influence or a type of medication or narcotic. she may not do illegal drugs, but she takes legal drugs that are narcotics. Anyone who has been a drug addict, or professional in this field, can tell you that this woman is still under the influence of something. The US government rehabilitation system is poorly organized, they take illegal drugs from addicts to give you a legal one that supposedly blocks you from any desire to use drugs, but it is not. That does not give you freedom, much less independence, you are confined to that medication for life, the day you do not have it, you return to the same thing. With God's help you can be free, because nothing is impossible for God. Luke 1: 37. Let's pray that this young woman is 100% free, because she needs it.
Smart lady. Even while dealing with addiction she was aware enough to protect herself. I’m so glad she was able to pull herself out of addiction and live a safer life. Thank you for speaking out, Nikki. You are humanizing these young women again. What you’re doing is amazing.
Trust me, it was the addiction that saved her. We’re super aware when in active addiction when it comes to other predators
Kay, you have the most beautiful voice! What a blessing you were gifted.
Lauren - Your thoughtful interview with Nikkie was excellent. Nikkie is very brave to share her story. I wish her much success in her life.
As a former addict, because like Nikki I got addicted w rx pain meds which lead to using heroin. I was married, a great mother, and making very good money. My only habit was cigarettes. A few times I had to resort to this in order to support my habit. The couple of times I did it was very scary but the need to stop the horrible withdrawal or urges exceeds the fear. It angers me how people judge these women, without knowing their lives. Some people aren't as strong to deal w life especially being abused/traumatized as a child. Also opiate withdrawal is so horrible it will make you do whatever it takes to get rid of the effects. Many cases of addiction are due to mental illness. I wish there was more free and easy access for treatment. Many actually want the help. Instead of the government sending billions overseas to "combat" drug trafficking that money should be used for more rehabs and mental health services. Or stop spending money on prisons, stop incarcerating addicts and mental health patients that need help and not to be locked up. Family support I think is essentially important. By the grace of God, with my willingness to stop and sister's help, I have been sober 7+ yrs. Congrats Nikki on your progress and GET THAT BUSINESS 💯🙏♥️
Congratulations on ur 7+yrs!!! Don't EVER give up
@@sharonpowers4771 thank you ♥️
I agree, and my story is very similar to yours. We send millions of dollars to help with other countries' problems but don't do shit to help our people struggling with addiction, mental health, or homelessness. Now that I'm clean and see how much of my money income tax is going to the federal government pisses me off. The system made it hard for me to come out of the court system and homelessness. Getting a decent paying job that didn't do a background checks, so I could pay off court fees the system piled on me was damned near impossible. If I didn't have my husband I couldn't have done it.
I'm sitting here crying really hard because 4 year of my life I did what Nikki used to do and I lived in fear every day multiple times a day was I even going to make it through the next hour or the next phone call or the next date. When you're in addiction and alcoholism hardcore you forget about the rest of the world and how it works You're only there for survival mode and that doesn't even always make sense, our actions and reactions do not always make sense and that's because the drugs and alcohol are clouding us so badly. I also wondered many times over the course of that year if I was ever in the company of a serial rapist, or maybe somebody who was going to get started and I might be their first victim... And the only way to drowned out that pain and numb yourself is to do more drugs and drink more booze. I'm actually really surprised she did not have an alcohol issue and I'm really proud of her that she doesn't it's impressive especially in this day. I am also clean now, able to enjoy alcohol responsibly with my husband and enjoy God's green herbs because it's a plant, man and it's in a medicinal one.😊 Here's my advice to anyone that is in the business or if you are an active alcoholic and addict and you are looking for the way out, family support is going to be very important but if you don't have that all you need is Jesus, it's not a cliche it's the honest raw truth, it's going to be hard to do it on your own but if you have no other human being around you fully put your trust in Jesus anyways even if you're surrounded by loved ones, but if you have no one else Jesus is in your corner fighting for you he's literally waiting for each of us to take that brave step out of the darkness and leave the poison life behind. He saved me countless times, overdoses alcohol poisoning physical assaults bar fights car accidents..... And trouble with the law that I was not ready for the consequences... NIKKI TOOK THIS BRAVE STEP AND I CAN SEE SO MANY BRAVE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMENT SECTION SO I HOPE WE ARE HELPING SOMEONE BY TELLING PARTS OF OUR STORIES AND BY THE WAY TO THE MEAN PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE LIVE CHAT FOOD ON YOU COLD BOOGERS BE FLICKED UPON YOU LITERALLY I MEAN YOU KNOW HARM BUT YOU DON'T NOT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND YOU WERE SPITTING OUT HATE THIS YOUNG WOMAN AND SHE'S STILL YOUNG WOMAN SHE IS BRAVE SHE IS A SURVIVOR AND SHE HAS A BONAFIDE PURPOSE THAT GOD SEES FOR HER SHE IS A MOTHER AND SHE IS NOW A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO AND WHAT TO DO ALL IN ONE, PEOPLE CAN TAKE A LETTER AND LEARN SOMETHING. Be blessed y'all, SPREAD LOVE AND FORGIVENESS
Using RX meds don't always lead to heroin, only if you're a junkie to begin with, lacking self control! LOL I've been taking oxycodone 30 years for a dozen blown discs, and never abused them or used HEROIN!
My mother was a homicide reporter. She said all the survivors felt something right before they were attacked. I am glad you listened to your instincts snd lived!
Your mom was right. You have to listen to that always. For me, I feel extremely cold. It’s different for everyone. And NEVER go to a second location. Die where you are if that’s your only choice. Fight, bite, claw, spit on things, pull hair. Get evidence and leave your evidence. Even better, listen to that warning!✌️♥️
I survived a violent assault 35 years ago and I pulled hair and rolled out of a moving car. Yep, I have PTSD and a service dog who is with me 24/7.
@@Bzzzzzzzz535 me too. ,,,,violent assault and now therapy dog..m Hope you are ok.trauma unit and meds help….family support if possible.
or maybe she just wasnt into a weird fat middle aged man and then retrospectively made up these 'feelings' about him being the gilgo killer.
Google “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker. There’s a free version online and many videos about it. Your mom was very correct. And as a victim of violent crime, I can tell you I felt the same thing.
I totally get what Nikkie was talking about. I was SA-ed in my teens and ignored my intuitive warnings at the time. Its been years now, but I do occasionally find myself around someone who triggers that same awful feeling. Its rare but I never ignore it.
Always always listen to that little voice. If it’s wrong who cares. But if it’s right…..
I can understand, I always trust my gut instinct s since I was 30ish ....the one u least expect to harm u, is usually the ones that will, they are just good actors....have the ability to get past ur radar...
@@deannekliene2673 it was a stranger not someone I knew
Sorry to hear this happened to you. I have a friend who has been S.A many times, and the thing is... men are predators and can sense an S.A target easily. I dont' know how because I'm not a man, but they know who to easily choose.
Wow...HUGE respect for Nikkie. You just don't know how hard it is to crawl out of a hole in life and keep on going. Most people in Nikkis situation don't. Thats MASSIVE. She will definitely be successful in life.
She claims that "she knew" he was the killer yet didnt speak up about it or provide a tip. And only AFTER the fact is she speaking up because she has something to gain.
She isn't a hero, she knew he was probably a serial killer and hid that information.
Too bad it's nearly impossible to become successful once you have any kind of criminal background..:(
Well it's better not to go in the hole to begin with and then to crawl out of whole like an animal or something bottom feeder yet the fact that she you know survived is good and you know hopefully she'll never live that kind of Lifestyle again and she'll move forward and it is hard in this day and age to make a living so I hope she can keep keep your eyes on the prize and not going to that low-life life anymore😮
@@takeshikovacs4728 that's ridiculous. she had nothing to go to the police with - he was a weird creep but he didn't actually do anything she could have reported. she didn't 'hide' any information. Women frequently get brutalized in the process of reporting even when they've directly been the victim of crime, what did you expect her to do? She's incredibly brave to say anything publicly - just judging by how cruel and judgemental and inaccurate many of the comments here are, she's opening herself to backlash, not gain.
"crawl out of the hole like an animal or bottom feeder..."??? Wow, so this is how you look at people who change their lives??? SMDH
There’s a reason this beautiful woman survived… several actually, including her children! I’m so proud of her for getting away from the drug & street lifestyle, it’s so incredibly difficult just to get off drugs, but to stay off of them and turn her life around…. 👏🏻 I’m so proud of her. God bless you, Nikkie💕 Thank you for your story.
Beautiful 🤔🙄
God bless you Nikki 🙏 ❤in Jesus LORD name. 🙏 I started holistic and organic foods. Lost 90 lbs in 5 years, now working on another 100 lbs. Lots of DC physicians on youtube.com how mental illness and depression and other medical problems caused by lack of vitamin and supplements with different types of exercises. You are worth saving, one day at a time.
Don’t believe everything you hear. there are a lot of women who are trying to gain social media fame by claiming to have met him.
Do you then mean that there was a reason that the other girls did not survived
Why are you proud of her?
How can you be proud of something you have zero connection to ?
Nikki, your story gave me chills. I’m so glad you followed your gut. Wish you all the best. The older I get (I could be your mom) the less I judge. We all have pasts and secrets and things we aren’t necessarily proud of. But these events make us who we are today. And sharing your story may save another woman’s life. Brave lady.
Can we all just take a minute and say how amazing this woman is and the strength and courage to come forward and speak her truth! Props to her!!
Nothing but Love & Light 🙌🏻 to your guest, Nikkie … I’m so glad she was smart enough to listen to her “gut feeling” and leave the situation. I’m happy she managed to turn her life around, but I cannot imagine the turmoil one feels (instinctively knowing) she could have been a victim 💔
Amen to that! Smart young woman to pick up on that weird vibe. My mother always said “LISTEN TO YOUR GUT, IT WON’T STEER YOU WRONG.”
Bless you Nikki’s for coming on and sharing your experience. 😊
Nikki, I feel there’s more than one person out there who really needed to hear your message today. Applause to you for the courage to share. Strength and Light to you! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@@m.h.6499 you
Indeed! Not only smart, She was sober enough to obey and listen. To that unique and powerful gift that women's have! Her "Women's Institution" was speaking and she listened! God Bless! 👍🎉💙☮️
Nikki, hold your head high girl! We all make questionable choices, especially when we're are young and vunerable, for reasons that others will never understand. All that matters is that you were intuitive enough to sense danger and removed yourself from it before ending up another victim. This story isn't about escorts, it's about a deranged, sadistic killer who prayed on young, trusting young women who did nothing to deserve the brutal end they endured. Thank you for sharing your story, and I hope one day you get to open your "High" end salon. It's such a cool and unique business idea and I'd travel from Jersey for the experience. Best of luck!
This.
Questionable choices? Who? Tell me.
I don't think this story is real. I know that behavior, and today there are many who want to write books or make money with the stories of another. First of all let me tell you that a murderer does not pay a prostitute and drug addict to take you to eat in a restaurant! That doesn't happen! . Let me tell you that a man pays you to have sex, not to have a romantic serious date with a prostitute and drug addicts!, much less a murderer is going to take you to a public restaurant, so that everyone can see you, and then be able to identify you and say "I saw her with that man"? Please, this story smells weird. My experience tells me: this story is not credible! It won't take the police long to figure this out, especially when they hear the restaurant's story. This woman doesn't know that lying is a crime. I don't know what people are thinking by making this stories. In conclusion, this murderer is an ogre, he deserves the highest sentence.
Well said.
@@RMEDMyou’ve just everything I said in my reply to the comment above yours. Her story does not pass the sniff test at all. It’s all about promoting her business and how life has victimised her. There’s nothing new in what she’s saying? All this information is already in the public domain since the arrest, there’s been several interviews by the authorities where more details were released.
I’m not sure if she’s highly medicated or drugged up
Great interview. Lauren, you have such a gift of listening to your guests without judgement. Nikki, if you are reading this ...a HUGE congratulations for turning your life around and becoming a success. Good luck in your entrepreneurial endeavors! You are so much more than your past life! Thank you for sharing your story!
I was wondering if Rex would drop “hints” to some of the women he eventually (allegedly) murdered before he killed them or maybe even told them out right right before/as he was taking their lives which to me is exactly what a psychopath would do. This young woman listened to her gut and that highly likely saved her life that night.
I'll bet he did drop lots of hints because he likely enjoyed the game.
I doubt it because Nobody knew about the gilgo beach Murders or a serial killer during the time they were all being killed. There were no more killings once it went public and the bodies were discovered.
I thought of that as well. He'd talk about the gilgo case, then once he got them alone said I'm the sk and you're next. How chilling
Well, the people who rode the train to Manhattan with him every day said he was very argumentative and arrogant. He would start fighting with people on the train who annoyed him.
If anyone has ever followed the PSYCHOLOGY of serial killers, you will know that most have a list subconsciously that they check off. Once you "meet" a certain number of those items with your fate is sealed. They seem to think "fate" chose you & now you "deserve" to die. So BIZARRE. He must have been ticking off those things, and was flirting with instilling fear in her all while getting "off". 😳🤢🤮 Makes me INSTANTLY think of Shannon's 911 call. She sounded like maybe he had roofied her or something. Then he did something that she felt the same thing this lady felt. 😔
I’m a very skeptical person and a pretty good human B.S. detector, and I went into this interview prepared to call this woman a liar, but I found her to be very believable.
Nikki if you’re reading these comments, I want to tell you I’m glad that you survived it, and I hope that you’re doing very well now as a stylist. If you ever felt like others didn’t see you as having value, I want you to know that most of us watching this video are happy to know you’re doing well and wish you the best.
You had value then, and you have value now. God bless you and thank you for sharing your story.
This is so sweet! My thoughts exactly. ❤
Exactly this. ❤️
This!!! 💯♥️
Didn’t he asked for a second date?
I saw the thumbnail and thought the opposite of being skeptical but thought it would be so interesting.
What a great interview! Thank you both! So happy Nikkie is doing so well in her life, and that she listened to her gut feelings about Rex. What a blessing!
In the last few days, several women who'd had dealings with him said that he brought up the Gilgo murders when they were having a conversation. He obviously got a thrill from knowing that these unsuspecting women were talking about the murders with the murderer himself. Like a "duper's delight" kind of thing.
Many of these criminals WANT to be caught.
@@stj971
I believe they think they are smarter than everyone else and won't get caught.
Why didnt they call tip line if they thought it was him?
@@micheleherrick651 I don't think they thought it was him at the time. Now they look back and recall that he brought up the topic of the Gilgo murders.
I noticed that too. It was the once place he seemed able to talk about it
Instincts don’t lie, it’s important to be able to listen to our inner gut feelings. I am glad she’s come forward and that she was able to listen to her inner voice. She’s Beautiful and so sweet. I am glad she’s on the right path!! Nikki, if you were in LA, I would be your client at your salon!! ❤
Hidden true crime: I just love how you quietly listen and let the victim talk as long as she wants, put out good questions when appropriate. Very good 👍
I’m so sorry for the way that the media treated you! You should be proud of yourself and your accomplishments you have achieved!
I feel like most media sources dismiss sex workers. Sex workers are strong people who have been through a lot of hard life. With the addiction and abuse that goes along with sex work, it makes it easier to overlook these people. It's incredibly sad and unfortunate.
Her story reminds me of a co-worker I had who had accepted a ride home from BTK. I lived within 2 miles of the guy who turned out to be BTK. One day, after his arrest, I was talking to a co-worker who told me that she had had a fight with her boyfriend, and she had gotten out of her boyfriend's car to walk home. Dennis Rader, who she knew to be the area Compliance Officer, stopped and offered her a ride. She accepted a ride home. She looked back on that, knowing there is a chance she could have died that night. My son also freaked out when he saw where BTK lived, because my son had dated a girl who was BTK's next door neighbor.
Who is BTK?
That’s a crazy story!
@@silviamtz8961 He is a serial killer who killed 10 people over a 17-year period in the Wichita, Kansas, area (we both lived in Park City, a suburb). He is currently in prison in Eldorado, Kansas. He called himself BTK for Bind, Torture, Kill. He taunted the police and the newspaper, and was finally caught. He loved the attention, and bragged about the killings. He was a strange, creepy guy, but he was a church elder and Boys Scout leader, so he flew under the radar. His family didn't have a clue. His daughter, whose DNA was used to verify he was the one, has written a book. I knew professionally the detective who ended up catching him, Kenny Landwehr, who has since died.
@@silviamtz8961Bound, tie, ki// is what I think it stands for. He is truly horrific. I’ve never been able to listen to everything he did. Yet all his life Mr. Boy Scout, church, upstanding citizen who was a psychopath. Apparently, Brian from Moscow murders really liked him. Studied under a teacher who has studied BTK. As if he is worth it.
@@silviamtz8961 The Wichita Kansas Serial Killer who killed 10 and got away with it for over 30 years. He was arrested in 2005 and is locked away for life now thank God. His initials stand for Bind, Torture and Kill. A very creepy, sick psycho.
I’m so glad she chose to speak to you. You have the empathy and compassion needed to do a great interview ❤
Nikki embodies what I have lived by and taught my 3 daughters: “What does not kill me only makes me stronger!” Thank you, Nikki and Lauren, for this empowering interview.
Orginally said by The philosopher fredrick niztche
@@kevinrichard5468 Thank you!
Proud of this lady for turning her life around. Don’t look back sister you dodged probably multiple bullets. She’s brave for sharing this story.
Many of these victims were mothers and addicts who were on their own just trying to.survive. Don't judge unless your perfect.
“ He had a mental orgasm when he talked about” the Gilgo beach murders, you nailed it! That is exactly how sadists look when they are mentally thrilled by envisioning another’s pain. You can see them focus inward in pleasure, still looking you in the eye but not connecting with you.
He was preparing her. He wanted her to be scared. Very scared.
It's like when Homer thinks about donuts.
He probably did this to some of the other victims that didn't get away. Talked to them about the Gilgo stuff, and then when they are in such a bind, just need the money or whatever, that they ignore the bad vibes, and got themselves into that spot that they can't get out off.. Then when he had them were he wanted to, he probably took extra pleasure in the whole "but we talked about it.." Maybe also part of the kick that he had done what he was doing to her to some of the dead ones. Cause honestly why otherwise even bring it up in that context, if you are planning to do it to her, why raise any flags. He enjoyed the moment when they were trapped even more with these sort of games, probably. 'But, honey, we talked about it.. I gave you so many opportunities to get away..'
I guess that's part of the sadism that sort of thing
@@ronnynoneofyourbusinessgoo7892 I don't doubt it since he also extracted extra afterward by calling their family members to torment them. Risked getting caught to do so.
That is one damn strong woman. I'm also sure there is allot she didn't talk about. But let me tell you.... No matter how hard you have it in your life you can absolutely look up to her and say thank you God for this inspiration you gave to me. Personally I'm proud of her hard won accomplishments. This is my personal opinion.
Preach!
Lauren, you are SO GOOD at letting the interview breathe, you let the interviewee fill in the space and don't assume. You have great presence. Love you!!!! (and Dr. Babe!)
Thank you ❤
Shaking my head over the sentence she received and also how we really don't believe in rehabilitation in this country...
Exactly. The system itself is a perpetrator in all of this.
I am so proud of this young lady!! How she changed her life and how she speaks of this experience without shame. She has a purpose in this life!!
Wow! Just hearing this makes my skin crawl. Nikki, you really dodged a bullet. You were smart to trust your instincts and take precautions. Lauren, you always do a great job. I’m glad I found your channel.
I use to escort years ago I know it's dangerous and am happy I'm still alive,thank you for sharing this Nikki, so happy you are safe and well today ❤️.
Wow...this is creepy
Thank you Nikkie for speaking out.
I'm so sorry about what happened to you.
People have no idea what someone's full story might be.
Bad things can happen to absolutely anyone.
So glad you were able to follow your feelings on that date.
Clearly it saved your life,; a beautiful life of value and importance.
Bless you in every way !!
Smart girl.. thinking 2 steps ahead.. saved ur life. Sad there's no degree for ""WOMENS INTUITION, GO WITH UR GUT"
@@user-jd6sf4ks3u police many times don’t investigate suspicions unless the person has evidence. Even more when the person is a drug addict young girl. Many times they aren’t discreet, if they didn’t find something big enough to arrest him and he finds out was her that talked, then could have killed her.
@@user-jd6sf4ks3ushe said she didn’t tell them because she was afraid they wouldn’t believe her with her past. No one should attempt to put any quilt or blame her for anything he may have done after their meeting that night. She met him on a sugar daddy escort site too. So with her past and the site they met on she already had many obstacles against her…NO ONE SHOULD BLAME HER FOR ANYTHING. I’m sure your coming from a good place thinking about others who may have fallen into his trap. But She was very brave to come forward knowing there would be backlash from social media because of her past. But she did it anyway and I know it couldn’t have been easy. Please view her bravery from that stand point.
@user-jd6sf4ks3u What would she have told the police? That she went on a date with a guy that felt sketchy? 🤦♀️
I was trying to think of how to phrase what I wanted to say to Nikkie and you said it perfectly. Still, I wish I could sit down with her to tell her how strong, amazing and what a beautiful soul she is! Most sex workers have a history of abuse, and/or neglect and are traumatized. In that state of CPTSD, they're trying to just survive, to eat, to not be homeless. Instead of burglary or other crimes that hurt others, they turn to sex work, and I find absolutely no fault with them. My heart is with her on this very hard journey, but I'd be willing to bet she'll thrive, not just survive, because she made it this far!
Wow! Great interview, Lauren. What a strong individual Nikki is and what a story she has to tell which highlights the strength she had and has within to persevere and overcome and elevate her life and move beyond a troubled past into a much brighter future and life for herself now. I like how you make a point of reminding us all that a person is SO much more than a past occupation that they may have once taken part in. Interviews like this help, I do believe, to focus us on the humanity that connects us all on a very basic level and, to remember that there is always, like you said, “a back story”. It’s SO easy for us as fellow humans to judge one another..especially when we have never walked in their “shoes”. But, the mark of real humanity, I do believe, is to be able to look beyond “passing judgment” and instead, to strive to see one’s fellow human being through eyes of love, compassion and empathy. ❤️
Nikki, I too am in recovery and am clean and sober. I admire your strength and courage in coming forward and sharing your experience while also keeping some details private to share with the police first to ensure that these victims receive the justice that they deserve. 💗 I am so happy that you listened to your intuition that night and have since gotten clean and are now a successful stylist and mother. I wish you all of the best on your healing journey. 💞
That's awesome - this woman is still clearly using drugs, unfortunately.
My Dad was a Detective, he told me that over the years, many ladies would call the Department from bars to tell that their date was bragging about killing their wife or girlfriend.
Is that a thing? How awful. Awful squared. I just recently watched some videos from the Scott Peterson and Chris Watts-yeah I know they’re old cases-but it made me wonder. “Is this a THING?”
Why do you think they would call and tell on themselves? Purely in order to brag or perhaps out of guilt but in order to prosecute them it had to be presented as though it were to brag?
@jessieessex because it's Amerikkka the police hate working girls and are hopeless at solving murders
@@jessieessex I think you misread my post.
@@just.joolie it is a thing for criminals to brag about their deeds, because they will get gratification through remembering it and re-telling the story to someone else to impress or scare them.
It makes many criminals feel more powerful to brag about committed crimes, and criminals actually may gain influence by making their notoriety known. And their bragging is also a reason why many criminals even get caught at all.
Thank you for speaking out Nikkie. Proud of you for getting your life back together when the odds were stacked against you. And thankful that you trusted your Spidey sense about him or you might not be here today.
This is an incredible interview. Bless this girls heart. I can not imagine how she must feel right now .
I am getting so fed up with the over-the-top, out-of-control violence, lethal violence against women, all women. I am so glad that this woman survived the contact with this monster, and that she is on a better path. Stay strong girl!
Is it more nowadays, or is it just because of Social Media that we are more aware?
@@nacholibreri You make an excellent point. There has ALWAYS been violence against women. I do not believe it is any worse than it was in the past. Maybe no better, though, which is a crying shame. The difference is we hear about it more often nowadays.
The good old days weren’t always good.
I used to be a backpage girl. I was a heroin addict too. I met men everyday for a couple years. I had some close calls, had a gun pulled on me. I had a friend who was also an escort get murdered by her date in 2014. I have been clean since 0ct 2018, and just got done with welding school, and I have actually been accepted into the pipefitters Union, I start next week as a helper. I thank my lucky stars everyday I made changes in my life. I have primary custody of my 12 year old son now. We do recover and we do move on. I continued to engage in sex work occasionally in sobriety and it’s very few and far in between, but allowed me the freedom to quit my job and go to welding school. Now I never have to do it again if I don’t want to.
Well.done you! Im clean since 2009 after 20+yrs a Heroin addict. It can be done, walk away from it all & look to your future new beginnings. 💚☘
Good for you! Over the years I have had a few co-workers who were formerly sex workers. Change is always a process no matter who you are or what you're leaving behind. Best of luck with your new job.
Nikki was right when she said women with that kind of past are vulnerable. It is sad to me that people don't understand people and don't realize there are reasons for their past. Childhood can do a bad number on people and it takes awhile to grow. I was impressed with her ability to say no when she felt unsafe. That is actually amazing at that young age that she listened to her feelings.
Great interview, Lauren! I commend her for her bravery to tell her story, and for getting out of that lifestyle and making a healthier life for herself 👏
I wish I could hug her. I am a 68-year-old very conservative Christian woman and this really touched my heart. And thank you so much for the kindness and Grace that you showed her!
So much respect!! So many hearing you and so proud of all you’ve done fighting to get a good life!
This was a great interview. I really respect how far she's come in life! It is not easy to leave negative habits behind, or to build a better future for yourself and your kids, but she did it! I appreciate everything she had to share about her experoence and would love to hear more about the disposal method once she's talked with police.
WOW LAUREN!!! I have been watching the podcast for a relatively short while but in this episode, I can see that YOU and your ferociously brave guest Nikkie are the true gems here. Nikkie, I am in awe of your experience and perseverance and thank you for coming forth with your valuable insight into the far-reaching aspects to these important conversations. Lauren thank you for providing such a worthy pedestal while steadfastly holding women up, up, and then again even more up. To widely varying degrees WE women have been navigating a playing field historically dominated by men and truth be said, have all succombed to it one way or another. Nikkie, seriously you are my updated version of the Statue of Women's Liberty. Surely I am not the only one in awe.
Thank you both. And thank you again.
It really has become glaring for me that people immediately go to question her values, integrity, why didnt she go to LE as if they are good helpful Authorities. I wish people wou suspend judgment. And truly learn something.
I haven’t seen any comments like that? Everyone seems to be commending her bravery! We all are well aware that LE wouldn’t have paid her any mind! (Or that they expect to not be believed)
@@kristentrep5038 hi Kristen. Well indeed that's true LE seems to drop the ball way too much. However did you read all the accusations of why didn't you call the police. There were many .thanks for replying to me.
Nikki, this was so good of you to come on and share. I'm so glad you listened to your gut. Drugs do bad things to people and no one should judge. Good luck in your business!❤
Thank you for doing this interview. Much appreciation
She is so clear about what he did and how he behaved. Her information is invaluable. I’m so glad she stayed safe.
@@Htrabaluap24 if they make a deep impression, then yes.
I still remember details from 50 years ago as if it was yesterday. When something impacts you, whether good or bad, it can stay with you forever.
@@Htrabaluap24 - Like the others said, some things will make a deep impression on you. I still remember something that happened to me back in 1969 or 70. I was only 12 then. Only told one of my sisters and she didn't believe me. I was so scared that I would hide at the bus stop until the bus came, thinking that he was probably looking for me when he passed by. The guy is probably dead by now.
@@annwithaplan9766 I agree, thank you for that vivid example.
With strong emotions comes better memory performance, and such experiences may be stored in longterm memory for the rest of your life at once.
Nikki mentions that this date actually made her reevaluate her life/dating situation, because it made her feel so bad she needed to flee it. Nikki even made sure she got backup for her flight, so wow, it was a real and very strong emotional experience. That's why Nikki remembers her experience with Rex so well.
This makes my skin crawl! He’s just getting creepier with each bit of information.
Why hasn't she already talked to the police
Wow Lauren! You came through for us again more than expected. We all can’t wait to hear Dr John evaluate this guy especially the more we learn about his creepy home
Leave it for the cops
Sorry but Rex isn't giving me the whole wine and dine vibe and she wasn't doing all dinner and drinks in active addiction. I'm also. People from vLong Island accent have a thick New York accent
Amazing memory she has!
@@tattfam3 he would be on a date to fancy a girl to murder. No he doesn’t go out like that normally. But that’s how these escort dates go. This is how it starts. They get wined and dined after before the final act. Some only do dinner and drinks and no sex. The drinks are too lighten the mood for both and guess who else is known to take a beer or two to take the edge off before a red-rum/ serial killers. Her story matches perfectly with that exactly lifestyle. Why would she lie and know things nobody knows yet like who the burlap bag supplier is? That was just independently verified. I searched the name- she’s not lying. Why would she lie about this she would get in legal trouble. This channel does its due diligence so assuming it’s fake is disrespectful to the channel and this brave woman who can help. If you want to add negativity to someone who is lucky to be alive, get off line. Sick take. Unnecessary.
Women surely do hate other women, huh?
Thank you for doing this interview and for sharing your story, Nickie! You are a lovely person and society needs to stop stigmatizing and labeling women and men for working as escorts. While it is dangerous work - you can help so many people by sharing your story. Wishing you and your family the very best!
Thank you for listening to your inner strength and repeating how you just felt it would be dangerous to leave with him! We women need to pay attention to those gut feelings that could lead to bad endings. It's genius to have a friend meet you in the parking lot!❤
So glad she listened to her gut and survived. It doesn’t matter why she was in that situation. What matters is that she worked her way out of it. So proud of her.
Thank you for this interview. It's great seeing the interviewer treat everyone involved with respect and dignity, no matter their past
Wow. She survived by keeping her wits about her, paying attention to the red flags, and listening to her gut instincts. The way he made her feel obviously stuck with her all this time. Good for her for providing information for the case. She obviously has a great memory, and mind for detail. She could do detective work. It is nice to hear a success story!
Her choices likely saved her life; she was lucky. However, she should have reported him, even if she had done so anonymously. Nothing may have come from it, or she may have spared another victim from horrific torture, depravity and death.
You have to give her credit that even in the grips of an addiction she could tell this man was dangerous. Always trust your instincts
She’s playing this interviewer like a fiddle. Getting her 15 minutes of fame.
@@r.c.miller6161believe women first
@@r.c.miller6161l'm not sure about Nikki. I feel she wants the fame, but she seems to have a genuine laugh. Maybe she did date RH....?
She tells such an important story even outside of this encounter. Humans are humans. Some have not so shiny pasts. I can promise you they don’t revel in the fact they did some of those things. If you’ve been in trouble or had an addiction or relationship you weren’t proud of, you will always feel a pit in your chest before revealing that. The public humiliation from law enforcement to every day civilians has stop. Like she said, she needed help. I’m proud of her for being someone that was able to pull herself out ❤
Nikki deserves so much praise for how she’s both fought to better hers and her children’s lives but also for always telling that story! Think how many people she may have told who were able to avoid him because of her.
This woman is a treasure. So beautiful, brave , vulnerable. Thank you for sharing your story.
When she was so smart to follow her instincts. I’m so proud of her for being brave and coming forward. What an amazing woman!
I'm so glad she came on because all these woman had hopes and dreams and HER STORY SPEAKS TO THAT. THESE WOMAN HAD FUTURES AND DREAMS! Your amazing!
Wow Nikki! This is such a powerful testimony! I'm so glad you followed your intuition/instincts and are still here with us! Thank you so much for sharing your story with us! Today, we celebrate your life! ❤️
Many blessings to you!
So proud of how far she has come. And that she is alive with four beautiful children. Bravo on her courage.
Best of luck in your goals Nikki. So very glad you’re here. Why women blame women for sex work and NOT men, who’ve always created the demand (also for male sex workers!)… The blame is misplaced, imo. Be strong 💪🏽!
Exactly!
I think the blame should be equally placed because it takes two to tango, so to speak.
AMEN...
@@AlexaLake7 If women and children were valued in this society and paid what men are paid, and given health care, and child support...I might say it was equal too, but it's not now is it?
Both are to blame.
Great interview! Nikki was Uber cautious and so so smart to get the heck out of there! This saved your life. Thank you for sharing your story.
So glad you followed your gut! Mother Nature gave us this amazing sense for a reason ☮️
God gave us Angels to watch over us.
@@kookietherapy9398 Arch Angel Michael is the demon killer. I am getting ready to light a 7 day candle to give him thanks im for exposing this demon. I sense the new commissioner is hooked up spiritually too.
That was such an intense interview, that I cried. Thankful that she is still here to tell her story. ❤️
Thank you Lauren for bringing this beautiful survivor to all of us.
Thank you Nikkie for being so brave and coming forward. You are a survivor. Please continue to share your story so other's may see hope through you. You are a beautiful inspiration!
What a sweetheart. She has nothing to be ashamed of. I’m so happy she did’nt go with him ❤
Lauren thank you for giving Nikki a safe place to tell her story and feel appreciated. We can learn a lot from you Nikki.
That was VERY brave of Nikki to share her past to educate all of us. Lauren lead a very compassionate interview; as always
Thank you for coming forward!
So scary. I too during active addiction was doing the same exact thing as you Nikki. My grandmother lived in Massapequa and I grew up going places like Gilgo beach. I’m happy you got away. It’s crazy to think there was a seri killer lurking on these sites bribing women who are at their lowest point. I truly feel lucky to have even survived it all. Congrats on your new life. Thank you for speaking out
Well done Nikki! I’m so sorry people let you down like this, and what you’ve done is incredible! I also had a bad doctor that prescribed drugs I could have really gotten hooked on, but was lucky to see it where it was going. It still took a lot for me to ween off of them. I lost 25 lbs in 2 months when I first started. He was treating my mom too, and I think she actually did develop a bit of a problem. This doctor was eventually arrested, convicted, imprisoned and deported. That ended the treatment of my mother, who never believed he was guilty. But he definitely was.
Well done on overcoming all of this, because it is so so so hard. Go you!
Smack attack! Beer, dope and braggadocio 😮
I got hooked on pain killers after a surgery and the doctor didn’t help he kept prescribing them to me for almost a year and I was 16! Then after I was good and hooked he cut me off... I don’t trust doctors anymore!
Hey Nikki, thanks for sharing your story. You have reinforced us to trust our own gut to every woman watching this.
Thank you Lauren for getting this story to all of us. You rock!!
Thank you for this interview. Much more interesting than the news channels. The first thing that I thought was, why would someone who is trying to have a sexual experience with a woman talk to her about these things? Unreal conversation to have with this woman, and then expect her just to go with him??? Glad that she trusted her gut feeling.
Yeah, I found that weird too, he must've really gotten a thrill out talking about it. That is so crazy and I'm glad that she trusted her gut and got the hell out of there.
He got the thrill and he was trying to scare her into submission. She was too smart for him.
@@justkiddin84Exactly - “scare her into submission”.😒
Sex is strange and, sometimes, self-contradictory.
I hope Nikki reads this, I am so proud of you for getting your life to where it is now! It is so hard to beat the system and make it out on top. Congratulation! For real! Also, thank you for being brave and sharing your story on here. You will never know the girls who will watch this that have now saved from a bad situation. Thank goodness you listened to your gut instincts, refused to go with him, AND called your friend to meet you, and waved at her. Otherwise, I feel like he would have taken you. Who knows what would have happened. Take care of yourself and your family! Also, I am so sorry the judges, lawyers, cops, etc. where such hard asses on you. Shame on them!
I am grateful that Nikkie listened to her gut and got away from this dangerous man. For Nikkie, this encounter was a blessing because it straightened her out to become the person she is now. That is wonderful! Many blessings to you, Nikkie! No one should ever pass judgement on anyone else. Except for God's grace, any of us could be in this situation in life. Never say never. Strong loving support is needed.
Please have Nikkie back on after she speaks with police.
She may not be able to speak after she talks to police. That’s why she is doing it now
With her phone on silent this time 😅
Yes, please have her come back I heard about her story on another podcast and it’s so much better in her own words.
The thing she couldn’t tell was him talking about using a boat to dispose of the bodies. Everybody thought he used his truck 👍
@guydichiara9560 That was what I guessed by reading between the lines plus what I've already reaearched about the cases
I was expecting this to be sensational, but the guest is so articulate, and the interviewer is so respectful and empathetic. Wishing you both the best, and here's to justice!
Ladies, this is why if you get that voice in your head, you should LISTEN to it! I know I've had it and it's stopped me from doing something and I'll never know what could have happened, but this girl DOES! I firmly believe she saved her life that night by not going anywhere with him.
Do you listen to that voice when it comes to chocolate cake?
Thank goodness she "recognized " a threatening situation and was smart enough to get out!
I’m baffled that he felt that asking about a serial killer while meeting her for the first time was great dinner conversation.
So thankful she listened to her instincts!
Being born and raised in Las Vegas I absolutely understand Nikkie sadly I have friends that I have lost and separated from due to their choices … I went to nail tech school in Vegas back in ‘92 10 years later I followed my nurse practitioner mom and moved to Boise … Nikki I’m so proud of you … and super proud your looking at a business plan that I believe will hit the ball out of the park… shoot for the stars ✨ Sweet girl !!!!
I totally believe Nikki. I went on dates too meeting men via different dating sites and there are some very sketchy men on there. I had many experiences that made me eventually stop dating men on those sites. Ladies, be careful. Always tell someone before you meet them. Many of these men led double lives and the "professional successful" men were the worst. They had some crazy fetishes. If you get the vibe, leave.
I am a male, Zen Buddhist monk who is celibate; do you like mathematics? My PhD is in differential geometry and topological algebra.
Only losers are on dating apps, people who can't socialize with women in real life, lonely and narcissist people! Always find the one in real life
Alot of straight women put on blinders with men or make excuses.
I met a girl recently on BFF Bumble and... she's really naive. She even had a plumber in her home who came back and asked for her phone number and txts him now but hasn't agreed to a date yet. She asked me my opinion but sums it up to me "hateing men" because I'm a lesbian, when the truth is... I know how men are, how they think because I've had many creepy straight guy friends over the years tell me the things to do to trick women, play them and cheat on their gfs behind their backs. I warned her that it's a bit intrusive to ask a single woman alone for her number in her home, how he probably does this with ALOT of women clients and she makes excuses that he's just a sweet guy (she doesn't even know him! txt for 2wks). Then when her and I were hanging out he was texting her weird shit and offering her a paid trip to Bora Bora with him!! So many red flags. She's such an easy target and comes from childhood issues with her father. I'm actually thinking of cutting off hanging with because I'm afraid she will put me in a compromising situation out with her.
I'm a 49 Yr old man and was drugged and r@ped at 36. Dating apps are a playground for monsters and predators. I would advise everyone to stay away from them completely.
@@barneyronnie perhaps
This lady should be going into schools and talking to young people about her experiences and the choices you make. I think young people would actually hear what she has to say. Your voice matters and your worth is invaluable. Thank you for sharing your story. I’m glad you are in a good place in your life after struggling. Respect.
Absolutely! Good idea!!
Be Proud of Yourself Nikki and hold your head high!!! You've come a Longgggg Way Baby!!! You pulled yourself up out of the past life you were living and look at you now!!! Conquering your fears and accomplishing goals while still setting more goals!!! Hang on to your dreams!!! I am so proud of you and happy that you escaped with your life and you are here to talk about it with us!!! ❤🙏❤🙏
Nikki! So proud of you for how far you have come. We all have a chapter in our story we wish we could rip out of the book. I’m so glad you are alive today, raising 4 children and you’ve come out the other side of addiction. God bless you ❤ thank you for sharing
Great interview. I am so glad the young woman is here to tell her story. I wish her the best.
Lauren, your compassion and kindness is so beautiful! Thank you! And thank you to Nikkie for her courage.
Thank you Nikkie for speaking with Lauren! It’s so good to see that you are doing so well now after such a hard start! You definitely needed help not jail! Our Justice system needs to be updated in so many ways!
Powerful interview. Thanks for your courage, Nikkie.
Thats so dope Nikki I hope you get to open your salon oneday. Thank you for sharing your story.
As an aside, my father was a correctional officer for 3 decades before his death. He was very passionate about trying to change the prison system from within. He wanted prison to allow for nonviolent offenders to be rehabilitated instead of condemned to a life of struggle that often times ends them up right back in the criminal world. They struggle to find ways to sustain a livelihood with a record and they are forever judged. Young people especially deserve a chance. They should be equipped with the resources they need to cope healthily with the rigors of life, and their mental health. They need education and rehabilitation. They deserve opportunities to be productive citizens. Too bad it is an industrial complex. A money maker for the wealthy.
What does that have to do with Gilgo Beach??
The current system isn't working - your dad was spot on.
100% right.
@@singlewhitefemale1707 He wasn't talking about Gilgo he's addressing the system and he is correct. She did talk about how the system let her out with a record pinned on her and she could not get work, totally relevant to what the commenter addressed.
so..the 'industrial complex' is the problem..not the individual...the very vast majority decide to do wrong knowing the consequences....stop blaming others or the system for their failures...I am sick of this victim bs because it is making MORE criminals
Wow - great interview. Women's intuition never fails.
This lady is such a gem;
I feel so badly about how she’s been treated snd good for her to ignore the people who disbelieved her. Wish he all the best in her hair styling career and with her four children
Wow. This is such prescient journalism. Excellent interview, Lauren. Bless you, Nikki. You matter so much.
Excellent interview!!! Nikkie, you go girl!!! Keep rising!!!🥰🙏🏽😎