CORRECTIONS!! Few things I fumbled and honestly blaming it on both me trying to get this video out and also filming for so long when I was 1. James is a chaser not a seeker, when double checking I realized I was looking at the movie stuff not the book stuff (but fuck JKR anyway) 2. Bartys full name is Bartimus not Bartholomew - it said that is my script how I misspoke idk 3. Canonically Bellatrix is the eldest of the black sisters, however, in so many fics for whatever reason Andromena is?? No idea how this got mixed up in my brain I think that’s all but thank you to everyone who has nicely pointed things out :) & thank you for all the love on this video!!!
Also, Snape became a double agent after he himself, not Peter, overheard the prophecy, told it to Voldemort but later realized it would mean certain death fir Lily and asked both Voldemort and Dumbledore to save her (didn't care about Harry and James dying tho, g-d I hate Snape, what a hypocrite). He did not become a double agent out of the blue, as you've said in the timeline part
No literally tho because when i was explaining it to her i started off with saying, "you know how harry potter had a godfather and how remus is also kinda like a godfather" and she is like "yeah" and i go "well. Theyre gay. For each other. And grant got screwed over. Oh and everyone else alive before Sorcerers Stone. They're also gay. Oh and James was in love with Harry's godfathers brother who was a deatheater but in the end betrayed them. That's the basis"
Real cause I’ll have to explain that I’m reading about Harry Potters parents and their friends and then people will be like ew Harry Potter fanfiction but YOU JUST HAVE TO GET IT like I don’t support jk obviously and it’s gay and more interesting
my mentally ill friend didn’t send me this video but they gave me a 6 hour explanation of the fandom on call a few weeks ago they would be very proud of me for watching this
It’s like if you hear any information about literally any woman except Lily, it’s 100% fanon. Since there was like 1 sentence about each of them (Marlene, Dorcas, Mary, Pandora)
22:48 "I cant remeber what fic it originated from..." ATYD, 1981, Remus drops the mars bars on the table and looks for Sirius at their flat and then he gets the phonecall from Mary saying "Remus, something awful has happened" sorry for reminding you of the tragedy.
Fluff and happiness ONLY exist in this fandom, to make the angst hurt so much more. Truly, some of the most magical and soul warming things i've read in my life, followed my having you soul run through an industrial sized meatgrinder.
Exactly, like why would anyone care about harry potters two gay uncles being estranged in their teen years and going through tough times if you didn't see how happy they could have been
Im so obsessed with Marlene and Dorcas ship... i wished more people would focus on wlw ships. Also it's also usually enemies (sports rivals) to lover, especially in the popular dorlene fics. That dynamic is so fun since half the time Marlene confuses her feelings or crush for Dorcas as "dislike"... like "why cant i stop thinking about her, mmmh that must mean i hate her"
the women in this fandom are so underrated, i love mlm ships and i get that the fandom was built on the original 4 (mostly wolfstar) but pleaseee more lesbians (wlw) please
This is probably the most tragic yet fulfilling fandom I’ve ever been a part of. Like even a month into getting into the lore I’m already pained by the prank and the relationships between people like the black brothers and Evan’s sisters. Also ships with narcissa and Alice are niche yet I like seeing them. And again this is such an amazing recap you have such a gift with keeping people engaged so thank you for this amazing piece.
Thank you so much! I’m so glad you enjoyed it!! This fandom is both so heartbreaking but so much fun to be part of because of how expansive it is. I want to make a second video just to talk more about the niche ships and tragic details they hold bc they’re so beautiful
@@brookesmoon if you make a sequel with niche ships, unrequited prongstail has always hit hard. As childhood best friends Pete had a crush on James. This also gives another reason behind his betrayal
i actually have never seen Hope portrayed as a bad person. There's a lot of her not knowing how to deal with Remus' situation, but I've always seen her at least try
as an old school marauders fan (like….circa 2004…way before tumblr 😬) i loved hearing how people have really even moreso taken the reigns and just ran with these characters. as an older fan there’s a few character changes i’m a little conflicted on (i forever will love softboy remus and sirius being a playboy) but also as a trans man that definitely stole my gender from fanon sirius black it makes me SO happy to see how things have continued to morph and be more inclusive. also THANK YOU for defending young peter. older peter sucks but baby peter hadn’t done anything yet. i used to be one of the Only peter roleplayers back in The Day™️ because that good guy bias was, like you said, SO present in the fandom. thank you for reminding me of my very first fandom because god i was deep in those trenches
The representation of chronic joint pain in marauders fanfics with Remus is genuinely some of the best writing I’ve ever seen that I can actually relate to lol. One I just read is the golden king (and extras) by maladaptivewriting on ao3 that is very good is you can get through 120+ chapters
I think this video was presented to me by the algorithm because I watched Uncarly's video. I am neither a marauders fan nor do i know any marauders fan; i am a secret third thing, namely, someone who enjoys the genre of unhinged recap videos. I'm glad i stumbled across this!
Honestly I think whoever made up the foundational marauders lore missed an absolutely hilarious opportunity to make every single character trans. Every single goddamn one belongs to us now!
It’s such a small detail, but James wasn’t a seeker. He was a chaser I think? He’s seen playing with the snitch because it was easier for him to steal, which kinda adds to the vibe of the character I think
i love the pretty much the only piece of actual cannon we use is the prank sirius pulled on snape and yet the marauders fandom probably has more lore than the actual harry potter fandom 😭😭
liking all the slytherins apart from snape is so silly because like you could just pick specific ones like avery n mulciber to also villainise so that the positive-negative characters even out
james would absolutely wear the lightning McQueen crocs and go up to lily and say "lily, i have drip dont i- SEE SIRIUS SHE AGREES" if it was set in modern day
my fav headcanon i've seen in a few fics is that Lucius Malfoy was engaged to Bellatrix and he and Narcissa fell in love during school and had to run away to be together. Also that Narcissa isn't marked bc Lucius was a deatheater and Narcissa wasn't actually one, just in the social circle of them
I was 10 when POA book came out and the Marauders always seemed to me a much more compelling story than HP. Also I remember my mum (legend) asking me if Remus and Sirius were gay for each other and OOTP just confirmed that for me and my best friends. Having distanced myself from the HP fandom because JKshit and « adulting » , Discovering 20 YEARS LATER that the Marauders fandom is thriving is just so amazing to me. Great video to get this old kook up to speed. 😊
1:56:44 i read a fic where they addressed this and basically said that many people built up immunity to truth serum by having a little bit every day so it was banned for courtrooms and stuff. i'm pretty sure it's actual thing called mithridatism where people build immunity to poison.
In a bunch of the fanfics I read Pandora is the ultimate neutral zone between all the character dynamics. It doesn’t matter who’s fighting if Pandora says to stop you do. It can lead to very funny scenes like when Sirius and Regulus were about to get into a fight and Pandora just walks up and they both immediately desecelate. Or like one time Barty hurt her feeling on accident and every single person in the lunch room in the scene turned to look at him like he was garbage it’s wonderful because shes definition of indiscriminately nice. She’s also commonly a seer.
CORRECTION 1:51:04 noooo this is so important in the fandom!! its alright tho. Snape was in the Hog's head undercover, overhearing the prophecy. He tells voldemort because at this time he is still loyal to him. Harry gets born and Snape finds out/gets notified/whatever. As Snape thinks about this he realises the prophecy might be about Harry and goes to Dumbledore, and begs him to keep Lily safe. This is the time he also switches sides and becomes part of the order of the phoenix.
A head cannon I saw that I like a lot is that pandora's maiden name is lovegood, and xenophilis was a disgraced malfoy, and when he married pandora he changed his name to hers to distance himself from his ancestry. I've also seen it where they invented the lovegood name because she was a rosier and he was a malfoy. I think it stems from him having the same platinum hair as the malfoys, which is really only seen in the malfoys and pandora (and luna, obviously, because pandora and xeno are both that platinum blonde)
I remember shipping Remus and Sirus the first time I saw Prisoner of Azkaban (it seriously feels canon in that movie) I didn't know there were such recent popular fics about the mauraders era. It makes me happy that this fandom is thriving! (Especially because JK has nothing to do with it lol) And this was a great video btw! I watched the entire thing while drawing.
33:57 I love that headcanon especially bc it kind of means that Harry could be mistaken as a weasley too, which is funny considering Draco and his first interaction. Like imagine it goes like "Red hair, and... new robes? Whatever, you must be a weasley" and Harry decides to fuck with him like "Hell yeah I am, me and good old Ronny here are actually twins"
I've seen fics where Pandora is a Trelawney sister rather than a Rosier one more often tbh, but maybe that's just based on what I prefer reading. Also, in some fics Alice is a Lestrange, which is ofc another level of angst
i think if i was 5 years younger i would have been so into the fandom. i really loved the books and movies growing up, but rowling sucks so bad and i hard pushed away from the material because of it. i was disillusioned because i saw how flawed and hurtful the story i loved was. but there’s still stuff i do like and took a lot away from it, even though im a lot more critical of it now because i developed a frontal lobe lol. i want to give a hug to everyone taking this world and making it their own and deciding they get to belong in this world that’s expanded far beyond its creator.
Honestly for me it feels transphobic to even TALK about Harry Potter sometimes. I feel like I’m committing a hate crime mentioning it because Rowling destroyed it so thoroughly. I’m so glad they could reclaim it.
This was soooooo helpful, thank you! I've been a long time harry Potter fan and I've been trying to get into Marauders era for a while, but I've been intimidated by the depth of the lore. This was so incredibly helpful for that!!
@@gabbycohen932 I got you :) Here are a few of my favorite canon compliant fics. Most of them are longfics, but I also have some one shots! - Through a Glass Darkly by lightinthehallway - The last Enemy by CH_Darling - The Life and Times by jewels5 - The rise and the fall of the stag and the doe by Siriusuntiltheveryend Some AUs: - And the wolves all cry by monroeslittle - Sunshine in my eyes by monroeslittle - I'll be fine, I'll be good by Kay_elle_cee Those are a whole lot of great ones, I have more if you want them!!
As someone who was vaguely in the marauders fandom in like 2011-2015, it’s so crazy to see how it’s exploded and evolved so much. I just can’t get behind Remus not being a soft boy though it’s the main thing that has stopped me from just breaking down and reading atyd 😅
hi hi i am a third type of viewer: someone uninvolved in the marauders but who loves spectating all major fandoms as an outsider! i've always been curious about and impressed by the mass fanon creativity of the marauders fandom as it's developed... in my memory wolfstar (do they still call it that? i'm only 10 minutes into this video LOL) has been a common ship since the early 2010s, but when i started seeing fic on ao3 about regulus black in the last few years i knew y'all's horizons had Expanded lmao!! i was deep into the kylux sub-fandom under the star wars sequel trilogy fandom umbrella, and my fav part of that fandom was the fanon creations and collective effort to flesh out characters who got very little screen-time or canon depth to their backstories/personalities. but that was NOTHING compared to what the marauders fandom has done, y'all have created your own entire narrative world working off the barest of scraps, and have established a passionate and collaborative community surrounding it! to me that is beautiful, innovative, and genuinely impressive. excited to watch the rest of this now LOL!
I am in awe, Jesus Christ this was thorough!!!!! I cannot imagine how long this took, great job :) A few of my favorite hcs also: 1. Welsh Remus! It's canon that Hope worked in an insurance office in Cardiff and met Lyall while taking a walk in a Welsh forest (weird way to meet, but ok, Joe), so it's commonly hc'd that Hope and Lyall (or just Hope) were Welsh and that Remus speaks Welsh (there are some lovely fics where Remus refers to Sirius with Welsh terms of endearment like cariad). Love this one because Welsh language rights have been systematically diminished or taken away by the English for the past...800 years? And the Marauders fandom is so consistently pushing against oppressive status quos :) 2. In canon, Hermione describes Remus as having patches and darning over damage on his clothes, so it's not much of a headcanon, but I do like imagining Remus with a darning mushroom darning away at his clothes both out of neccesity (being of low socioeconomic class (but also this another example of Joe's weird ways of showing that ppl are poor)) but also as a meditative ritual kind of thing. I do love divorcing the idea of fiber arts (like mending) being feminine and it's nit-picky, but it does kinda annoy me how Hermione said it as a bad thing, implying it would've been better for him to buy new clothes when the ones he had worked fine and were fixable (which speaks to the consistent themes of overconsumption and capitalism in HP canon but I digress). Basically, I just love the idea of Remus mending his clothes (and a non-canon hc: knitting)
just another older marauders fan dropping in to put a very heartfelt stamp of approval on the new direction the fandom is going with these characters and stories. they’re even more compelling now! and I think that’s entirely because the fandom at large has fully embraced the need to divorce itself from rowling and her cruelty - thereby allowing them to be much more creative by playing fast and loose with her canon. which is, at times, so profoundly idiotic and poorly written that it’s hard for it not to really stifle and hamper the telling of good stories. it also really cracks me up to think back on my own time in the fandom, and how my interest in the first place was only stemming from my teen self having the hugest crushes on remus and sirius and both of their actors - so imagined my newly awakening queer self’s DELIGHT at discovering fan content where they KISSED. dream come true. god fucking bless fanfic for that.
Sorry for my broken english, but I need to get this out of my chest. I am a millennial, the first book came out in my language when I was 7 years old. I am now 31 years old. I was super Harry Potter fan, reading the books 20+ times when I was a child and a teen. I wouldn't say I was in fandom, because I didn't have internet till I was 13 so I had no way of interacting with other people who created. And I didn't learn english until I was 19. So for first 12 years of my Harry Potter journey I daydreamed, spoke with my classmates and friends, wrote my own stories, then the internet came and I found myself on Harry Potter forums (in my language), where I roleplayed as Lily Potter most of the time (or my OC) I loved marauders era, I saw so much potential there. At the time I read like 1 available marauders fanfic, I read Dramione a lot and as a anime fan I spend my fanfiction days on reading Naruto fanfiction :D Then the films came out and I didn't like them that much tbh. Like I would rewatch the first three but the others I don't really care about. I was in rage with 7th movie the only thing I liked was the music. As I grew and started to poke my head in english sites, like the original Pottermore which I adored. And of course I started to learn about Rowling and problems in the books. TBH half the things I didn't even notice, because they were either missing in translation (I never read HP in original) or I didn't notice because I already had headcanon that fixed it (my favorite kind of headcanon is the kind which complete something incomplete). But Rowling as a person can burn in hell. In recent years, I fall out from Harry Potter completely. I didn't touch the books like 8 years now, didn't watch movies and didn't play the games. So as I am no longer Harry Potter fan, I can tell I am marauder fan still, because the only things I am going back to are marauders edits on youtube. I don't read marauder fanfiction, I saw couple of fanarts at random, edits are the only things I often watch. After watching this video, I can definitely say I am not in this fandom either, because there is so much lore and this lore is diametraly different from the marauders lore I grew up with and from the edits I know and adore. Like half of the characters from this video I didn't see one edit of. I didn't even ship wolfstar, there always was something unspoken between them but I didn't ship them together. I am from times when Marlene was shipped with Sirius, and oh boy this fandom went a long way from this. Also my Marlene is Alicia Vikander I was so surprised with actresses in this video. I am living in different era of this fandom. The reason I watched this video is that week ago I found out Timothee Chalamet is fancasted as Regulus Black and I just somehow dive in marauders era once more, watching some new edits here, even on tik tok. I always loved Regulus, and my characterisation of him is nothing like said in this video, but his face is from now Timothees. I even tried to read some fanfic but it was Jegulus and I didn't even finish it.. it was totally out of this world for me and my Jily heart. But I must say: I absolutely adore what people did with this fandom. Its the big middle finger to Rowling, to have so much queer and poc characters, and how this fandom come to adore and love them, to write the Bible lenght novels with these characters, to make beautiful edits and fanarts. I love the fluidity in this fandom, everybody can headcanon someone else, it is more diverse, more bigger, more modern. It is what is needed in these times, so everybody keep up the good work. Great video!
one of my favorite mary head canons is that she was ace and slept around bc she thought something was wrong with her and also i read one fic where peters gf died in a death eater attack dumbledore could have prevented but chose not too and that's why he turned traitor and i thought that was fun
I used to be in this fandom circa 2017 to 2019 so this is a fascinating look into how that fandom has evolved. I wrote a wolfstar fic around that time that has some of the "older" characterizations of Remus and James. This almost makes me want to go back and finish it...
only 30 minutes in and i’m so glad you’re talking about the girlies and the misogyny within this fandom i love the valkyries so much and they aren’t talked about enough edit also pandora i didn’t forget her i just group her with both the valkyries and ss in my mind i love her too #2 also the black sisters and alice just any lady in this fandom
hi just some info about snapes parents! his mum is a witch, her name is eileen prince and his dad is the muggle (his mum was like cut off from her pureblood family bc she married a muggle). i understand where all the snape hate comes from but also he has a special place in my heart but like specifically only in my own headcanons with my oc's lol and that timeline takes place in like the in between time between lily and james' death and harry starting hogwarts
if someone was to ever ask me what the marauders were, I would automatically drag them over to this video/your channel. I am begging you, PLEASE make videos about the tragedies between the relationships and friendships in this fandom because the words you use and the way you explain things is so eye opening and it gives even me--a fan for 3 years--such a bigger view of these characters. I've always been a major Slytherin Skittles and The Valkyries fan so seeing you agreeing with them needing more recognition just warms my heart. Definitely following you.
As a young teenager who is still growing up with the franchise since the age of five I hate Jk so much. But because of the wonderful world she created I’ve found ways to enjoy it without profiting her. Buying merch and books second hand,Buying from small businesses ect. I love seeing people take the amazing fantasy world that came from a not so good person and use it to rebel against her and her beliefs. I would definitely consider myself more of an hp fan than the marauders,but I think it’s so cool what people are doing with it. As always stay creative ❤
So very interesting to see how the fandom has changed and adapted these days! I was in the Marauder fandom back in 2005 era when it was all about The Shoebox Project - a now unfinished fic that combined art and photos and normal fanfiction writing. Me and my friends were OBSESSED! This was gr10 for me and we totally assigned each of us the personalities of the Marauders and were just cringey nerdy teenagers - we wrote notes to each other in class like the fic and literally stored them in a shoebox (which I still have!) and called each other Moony, Padfoot, Wormtail, and Prongs...good times ^__^ Love how the characters have grown and become waaaaaaay more inclusive! Love to see it!
I’m so happy this exists, not just because I like to know things, but also because you included the actor names of the face claims, cause there are so many I don’t know the names of.
i’m biiig jegulus shipper (bc they remind me of drarry) but i personally like additional complication of bfb and i am so scared of reading choices (i started it and i’m on chapter 10 and it’s already so heartbreaking) CAUSE I KNOOOOW HOW IT ENDS which is just….like the point but ugh tragedies are tragedies. i’m sticking to fix it and aus right now lol
DUDE NO WAY i got into this fandom due to uncarly's video!! Most of my friends love this fandom but i just never got into it bc it was too confusing..thanks for making this!!!! Its so helpful!!!
worst part is I won't read any of the fics, I just like listening to timeline evaluations on fandoms I am loosely apart of (and I'm writing a dr for marauders as are a lot of people I assume) you're really good at explaining things))
I really enjoyed the segment where you describe the entire marauders timeline. now I desperately want you to make a video on wolfstar ship timeline and headcanons please!! I've been obsessively watching edits and fanarts of them but don't have the time to pick up a 500k words fic.
Oof. Yes on fandom hating Dumbledore. There's a reason why there are so many Dumbledore Critical or Dumbledore Bashing fics out there. Seriously though, I think once people who read Harry Potter or watched the movies weren't little kids anymore, they realized how awful he was, starting from the moment we meet him when he's leaving an orphaned Harry with his abusive aunt and uncle (who he continuously sends him back to. There's also a reason why we have stories where people are horrified that Harry named one of his sons Albus Severus when if he wanted to name him after dead guys, people like Remus and Cedric were RIGHT there. They didn't create child soldiers or bully children). Like, imagine Neville finding out that one of his students' middle name is that of the man who bullied him. Or imagine Albus Severus asking people who aren't his dad about the guys he was named after.
Oh my god yeah imagine "hey do you know my name sakes?" "Oh yeah a corrupt grampa who made child soldiers and a snake who bullied children because he was mean to his crush and got rejected/taunted as a child not to mention Severus kills Albus horrible people...who did you say your parents are again?" Like uhh no you don't name your children after people who through you into sh!t that could kill you
@@ledoggo9723 Yes! You know someone would tell Albus Severus or his siblings about what Snape and Dumbledore were actually like. Like, "My mum told me that it always upset her parents that your dad was sent to his abusive aunt and uncle every summer." or "My grams never liked Dumbledore. She hated how he basically created child soldiers". That's not even getting into kids whose parents were bullied by Snape when he was their teacher. Or the one whose grandparents knew him and knew that he was obsessed with Lily.
as an AVID jegulus shipper(i would kill for them) but someone who also enjoys jily and loves harry i came up with my own timeline that sounded the most canon to me was: james loves lily, she hates him, james meets regulus, james loves regulus, they secretly get together, regulus does his death eater thing, james and lily end up together, regulus "dies" but acc faked it and goes round killing horcruxes, james and lily have harry, regulus reveals himself as alive and everyone kills voldemort, james and regulus get together, lily gets with mary, HAPPY EVER AFTER
I've known about the core four forever but I've only ever had a vauge understanding of the Slytherins and everyone else. I could never find a concise explanation (because there's almost no canon 😭) This was a huge help clarifying things, thank you for your service 🙏
i started reading maraunders fics bc i wanted more harry potter content but damn... all these fics make me do is sob my eyes out. the first fic i read was crimson rivers and i havent actually recovered mentally from that
@@allygaytor funnily enough its what made me hooked instantly onto the marauders characters, despite the fact that a bunch of them died or were extremely traumatized. I love me a good tragedy
Honestly the slytheren 'characteristic' is ambition like the gryffindor character is bravery, hufflepuffs are kind/loyal and ravenclaws are smart😊. I understand why so many people villinize an entire hogwarts house considering who we see from slytherin eg. Tom ridle, Bellatrix, the Blacks (-sirius), Luscious BASICALLY bad peopelle 😅
wanted to add something for my fellow slytherin skittles fans out there. Barty was never actually mentioned being there at the time when Alice and Frank were being tortured and if he was, he had already lost his mind at that moment (wether it be bc of rosekiller or the death of his friends, that's your choice!) Let's also not fail to remember that Barty was literally Imperio'd by his own father for 13 years and I'm sure that had also taken a major toll on his sanity, even though this was after everything with Alice and Frank and Evan and all his friends. Another head-canon thing to mention is that Regulus had actually planned everything this way because he knew he couldn't escape and that he was going to be the heir at the end of the day. He had done research about the horcruxes since his 5th year so he knew literally everything and how to destroy Voldy, and it did take him a while to realize his parents didn't actually love him, but when he did it was pretty easy to go forth with his plan. Also very popular that Regulus was the one that told James about the mark and lied about loving him in the first place because he wanted James to stay safe and he also knew he was going to die so he didn't want to give James so much grief, even though the letter he sent to James (and Sirius + his friends) was quite literally heartbreaking. He just thought that if James thought he hated him and lied about the love he had for him, it would make it easier for James to move on from him and he even went so far as to think that James didn't love him enough and that his death wouldn't affect him that badly. (Which it did, by the way.) Another head-canon that Marlene had actually snuck out during 'lockdown' to see Dorcas and this had made Dorcas very upset and worried that Marlene would be followed/killed, and offered her to stay at her house, which she declined. She later found out Marlene and her whole family had died, which had led to Dorcas basically going ham and becoming so strong that Voldemort himself had to come kill her. Pandora had received a letter from Regulus with his goodbye and how much he loved her (obviously), and also telling her about his plan. She begins to figure out ways to destroy the horcrux, and she later finds out that Dorcas had also gotten the same information, and they began to help each other since they were the only two that hadn't become death eaters, and it was easier to be together than to be alone and handle the loss of all their friends (wether it be their death or because they became death eaters.) They obviously died at the end of the day! Last one: I know many people believe that Pandora had been disowned or ran away, but I like to think she wasn't until she grew older and after her twin brother died. I like to head-canon that since Evan had joined the death eaters and she hadn't (or maybe she did but she was a spy for The Order), that this caused their relationship to literally obliterate. There would be days where they couldn't look each other in the eyes, and there would often be days where Evan would literally come crawling to her begging her on his knees to forgive him, to not leave him because he didn't want to be alone. She would comfort him too, sobbing with him and cradling him in her arms almost like a mother would. But right when they stopped and pulled away, it would repeat. Day and night, every single day and it hurt Pandora so much, but she couldn't forgive him. She couldn't trust him anymore.
Don't start me on the Mars bars, i'm going to cry (SPOILER: he came back from a missian with werewolfs and hadn't seen Pads for a long time, he bought two Mars bars one for him and one for Sirius, only to come to their flat and see Mary, who tells him what happened with James, Lily, Pete and Sirius, so the Mars bars stay as like, i donno, something symbolic and really sad)
1:02:04 yes and apparently he tried to make a deal with voldemort where he basically asked him to save lily and kill james and harry like "you can kill a baby i don't care but don't kill the woman i'm obsessed with"
52:27 pandora being a rosier could make her related to regulus aswell since the black sister’s mother canonically is a rosier, so pandora could be cousins with the black sisters and related to regulus through them which is quite cool ! :)
I love the Marauders as an idea and like hearing about the ‘new’ head cannons but I’m afraid nothing can replace The Life and Times in my head! As I’m not really involved in the current fandom it is so bizarre to me that that fanfic is now outside the main fanon. It lacked any queer elements but was so perfect and exceptionally written in every other way 😊
as a person who fell into marauders fandom just several months ago i find this video really useful. now i know WHY and HOW Jegulus exists. why and more importantly HOW? rosekiller exist. and why everyone trans now. it’s beautiful here 💛
I barely have the attention span to write a text message but I watched this whole thing with no breaks. Also I’m really happy to see someone who doesn’t hate on Peter when he was younger because so many people in this fandom just bully him or ignore him
25:10 "none of us are happy here. we're all very very sad people." that's so real because we're really out her imagining horrific and traumatic scenarios for characters that we also made up off based on another persons fictional characters and drowning in our own tears. (the urge to make a depressing joke about Reg drowning...) EDIT: omg I hadn't even watched the rest of the video yet when I commented and I just got to the part where you say there's a lot of joke about Regulus drowning 😭
Thank you sm for this video !! I've just recently been getting into this fandom, specifically marauders as I've been in the general hp one for ages, and I'm currently reading atyd. I can't thank you enough for how much of a help this video has been in clarifying all the questions and confusions I had surrounding all of the different characters from this era. I also just wanna say you seem so so sweet and adorable and I didn't get bored for a single minute watching this whole video so thank you !!
mars bars are from all the yung dudes i think. remus comes from a mission to his and sirius' flat to try and resolve an argument (i think) and sort of apologise because he's not home a lot. he bought two mas bars as like a peace offering. he sets them on a table because his phone starts ringing. and then he finds out about lily, james and peter's deaths and sirius' imprisonment. so the mars bars just lay there on the table while he has a mental breakdown.
i never ever comment on videos but with the amount of work put into this video with not enough recognition i felt the need to. i feel watched the uncarley video when it came out but I found this one more informative - keep doing what you’re doing gorgeous
i hate that i knew pretty much all of this but i never had a proper overview of it? 😭 I'm close to finishing the video and this was a really good watch 😊 (I'm sick and too tired to read so big thank you for giving me marauder content in this state)
Damnit i can feel the hyperfixation building throughout this whole video… dang. also i felt the need to share my favorite ever marauders fanfic, “Peter Pettigrew and the Ghost of Christmas James” by gonzoclock on AO3. It takes place something like 3 years after the whole halloween james + lily dying etc. but it has the best characterization of peter i have ever seen. it’s way more plot-focused than ship-focused, it explores the idea that lily used darker magic to protect harry and also james comes back as a ghost. anywayssss highly it, although it might not be everyone’s favorite :] (sorry i ranted a little 😅) i enjoyed the video a lot, i hope you have a great day/night!!
this was my sign for joining the mauraders fandom after years of being in the shadows only liking tiktoks and fanart of them occasionally i confused dorcas, marlene and mary ALL the time i cant even tell u
CORRECTIONS!!
Few things I fumbled and honestly blaming it on both me trying to get this video out and also filming for so long when I was
1. James is a chaser not a seeker, when double checking I realized I was looking at the movie stuff not the book stuff (but fuck JKR anyway)
2. Bartys full name is Bartimus not Bartholomew - it said that is my script how I misspoke idk
3. Canonically Bellatrix is the eldest of the black sisters, however, in so many fics for whatever reason Andromena is?? No idea how this got mixed up in my brain
I think that’s all but thank you to everyone who has nicely pointed things out :) & thank you for all the love on this video!!!
Alice Longbottom has no cannon maiden name btw, shes not actually a fortescue
@@ZuriElysium27 OMG didn’t even know that, that’s crazy
@@ZuriElysium27WHAT
Also, Snape became a double agent after he himself, not Peter, overheard the prophecy, told it to Voldemort but later realized it would mean certain death fir Lily and asked both Voldemort and Dumbledore to save her (didn't care about Harry and James dying tho, g-d I hate Snape, what a hypocrite). He did not become a double agent out of the blue, as you've said in the timeline part
@@marynademirska8655 ah thank you! ngl when i got to figuring out this part of the timeline I think i confused myself LMAO so thank you!!!
fun fact: my MOTHER wrote wolfstar fanfiction when she was in college (early 2000s) so this has been around for a while
@@clairisha TELL YOUR MOM SHES AN ICON
Is it- is it published?? Can I read it??
@@megannnBso reall
Who is this DIVA💜
@@megannnB sadly it isnt published and my mother would murder me if i sent it to anyone
help why do i actually know all of this lore i did not realize i was this deep in the fandom
REAL 😭
Same😔
That's so real
@@belalugosi_isdead ?? /nm
@@imagromlin HELP MY BAD i did NOT know i commented this 😭😭😭 whoopsie daisy
“Yong Pete Is different than war Pete” yes, this why me and my girlfriend have a saying “love Rat Boy, dislike Rat MAN”
So true
And who could forget dear rat boy?
being a marauders fan is so fun but genuinely difficult to explain to my irl friends without sounding insane 😭😭
No literally tho because when i was explaining it to her i started off with saying, "you know how harry potter had a godfather and how remus is also kinda like a godfather" and she is like "yeah" and i go "well. Theyre gay. For each other. And grant got screwed over. Oh and everyone else alive before Sorcerers Stone. They're also gay. Oh and James was in love with Harry's godfathers brother who was a deatheater but in the end betrayed them. That's the basis"
Real cause I’ll have to explain that I’m reading about Harry Potters parents and their friends and then people will be like ew Harry Potter fanfiction but YOU JUST HAVE TO GET IT like I don’t support jk obviously and it’s gay and more interesting
my mentally ill friend didn’t send me this video but they gave me a 6 hour explanation of the fandom on call a few weeks ago they would be very proud of me for watching this
damnnnnnn *im* proud of you!!!!!
this is like making a video essay about the Bible. this is my bible.
I laughed so loud just now
And just like the Bible it really is about the fannon. Three wise men is really the Wolfstar of the Bible.
@@malteborgmanm2626 "Three wise men is really the Wolfstar of the Bible" is such an insane sentence but it's so real
literally the asylum where they raised me
I love the fact that you have to clarify when something is canon, because most of it is fanon and we automatically suppose that everything is fanon.
It’s like if you hear any information about literally any woman except Lily, it’s 100% fanon. Since there was like 1 sentence about each of them (Marlene, Dorcas, Mary, Pandora)
22:48 "I cant remeber what fic it originated from..." ATYD, 1981, Remus drops the mars bars on the table and looks for Sirius at their flat and then he gets the phonecall from Mary saying "Remus, something awful has happened" sorry for reminding you of the tragedy.
rizzmus lupin i'm cryyyying
Fluff and happiness ONLY exist in this fandom, to make the angst hurt so much more. Truly, some of the most magical and soul warming things i've read in my life, followed my having you soul run through an industrial sized meatgrinder.
do you have recs? 😊
@@tt-xf2nr just read any marauders fic 😁
Exactly, like why would anyone care about harry potters two gay uncles being estranged in their teen years and going through tough times if you didn't see how happy they could have been
@@madi-l1n YES! i see you get it xD
@@floratalkstomuch there are so many, recs are a good place at which to dip one's toes
i never knew how to describe it but a "babygirl renaissance" of the canon death eaters is SO GOOD
Im so obsessed with Marlene and Dorcas ship... i wished more people would focus on wlw ships. Also it's also usually enemies (sports rivals) to lover, especially in the popular dorlene fics. That dynamic is so fun since half the time Marlene confuses her feelings or crush for Dorcas as "dislike"... like "why cant i stop thinking about her, mmmh that must mean i hate her"
YES I LOVE IT SM
Fr I love them but it’s so sad that they’re always just a side ship we need more fics that focus on them 😭
the women in this fandom are so underrated, i love mlm ships and i get that the fandom was built on the original 4 (mostly wolfstar) but pleaseee more lesbians (wlw) please
Yesss, i read the hand that feeds and i fell in love with dorlene!
ohh, do you have any recs? im so interested in reading about them but I've only ever seen them as a background ship so i need recommendations please!
This is probably the most tragic yet fulfilling fandom I’ve ever been a part of. Like even a month into getting into the lore I’m already pained by the prank and the relationships between people like the black brothers and Evan’s sisters. Also ships with narcissa and Alice are niche yet I like seeing them. And again this is such an amazing recap you have such a gift with keeping people engaged so thank you for this amazing piece.
Thank you so much! I’m so glad you enjoyed it!! This fandom is both so heartbreaking but so much fun to be part of because of how expansive it is. I want to make a second video just to talk more about the niche ships and tragic details they hold bc they’re so beautiful
@@brookesmoon if you make a sequel with niche ships, unrequited prongstail has always hit hard. As childhood best friends Pete had a crush on James. This also gives another reason behind his betrayal
i actually have never seen Hope portrayed as a bad person. There's a lot of her not knowing how to deal with Remus' situation, but I've always seen her at least try
Almost all of the fics i have seen Hope dies pretty early on, usually abt remus’ 2nd year
as an old school marauders fan (like….circa 2004…way before tumblr 😬) i loved hearing how people have really even moreso taken the reigns and just ran with these characters. as an older fan there’s a few character changes i’m a little conflicted on (i forever will love softboy remus and sirius being a playboy) but also as a trans man that definitely stole my gender from fanon sirius black it makes me SO happy to see how things have continued to morph and be more inclusive. also THANK YOU for defending young peter. older peter sucks but baby peter hadn’t done anything yet. i used to be one of the Only peter roleplayers back in The Day™️ because that good guy bias was, like you said, SO present in the fandom. thank you for reminding me of my very first fandom because god i was deep in those trenches
The representation of chronic joint pain in marauders fanfics with Remus is genuinely some of the best writing I’ve ever seen that I can actually relate to lol. One I just read is the golden king (and extras) by maladaptivewriting on ao3 that is very good is you can get through 120+ chapters
i'm not entirely sure how i got here BUT i know damn well im gonna sit through the entire two hours of a topic i have 0 prior knowledge about 🔥
you dont choose to join the marauders fandom, it choses you
LOL HOW DID THAT GO
@SophiaT211 that’s so real, it literally just showed up on my Pinterest feed one day and now I know about it
Same. I know nothing about Harry Potter so I'm confused as hell
@@SophiaT211ngl it chose me by me randomly getting vids on tiktok and now I am obsessed 💀
*pulls up a chair* Finally, a full length explanation of this niche of the HP fandom. I'm here for it. Bless
I think this video was presented to me by the algorithm because I watched Uncarly's video. I am neither a marauders fan nor do i know any marauders fan; i am a secret third thing, namely, someone who enjoys the genre of unhinged recap videos. I'm glad i stumbled across this!
We are the same 💖
Same !!!!
Me too
Same. Don’t care about the fandom (because JKR). But I enjoy watching these sorts of videos.
Honestly I think whoever made up the foundational marauders lore missed an absolutely hilarious opportunity to make every single character trans. Every single goddamn one belongs to us now!
Honnestly, I can see everyone being trans, like, genuinly (james is projection and I have no shame abt that XDD)
Haha yes
i see this in fics all the time! it's awesome
Its never to late to trans their genders
Remus is canonically trans to me. Like, turning into a bloody beast that nobody should be near once a month? Can relate!
It’s such a small detail, but James wasn’t a seeker. He was a chaser I think? He’s seen playing with the snitch because it was easier for him to steal, which kinda adds to the vibe of the character I think
He is a chaser I said seeker due to the film’s changing it!
This is insane because the fandom just comes up with new lore, NEW CHARACTERS and I'm so confused when they end up in my fanfics
if a gay ship is happening at one place, there is another gay ship happening one place else. Loved that part
have i been in the marauders fandom for multiple years and know basically all the lore? yes. did i watch the whole video? yes.
i love the pretty much the only piece of actual cannon we use is the prank sirius pulled on snape and yet the marauders fandom probably has more lore than the actual harry potter fandom 😭😭
13:36 it’s so funny to me that a dog started to bark at the exact moment you were introducing sirius 😭
liking all the slytherins apart from snape is so silly because like you could just pick specific ones like avery n mulciber to also villainise so that the positive-negative characters even out
I honestly think this is what happens 99% of the time LMAO
i love the touch of using remus' wand as a pointer while wearing the i
I love wasting hours and hours watching these even though i am very aware of everything in the fandom and cry about it constantly
james would absolutely wear the lightning McQueen crocs and go up to lily and say "lily, i have drip dont i- SEE SIRIUS SHE AGREES" if it was set in modern day
my fav headcanon i've seen in a few fics is that Lucius Malfoy was engaged to Bellatrix and he and Narcissa fell in love during school and had to run away to be together. Also that Narcissa isn't marked bc Lucius was a deatheater and Narcissa wasn't actually one, just in the social circle of them
I was 10 when POA book came out and the Marauders always seemed to me a much more compelling story than HP. Also I remember my mum (legend) asking me if Remus and Sirius were gay for each other and OOTP just confirmed that for me and my best friends.
Having distanced myself from the HP fandom because JKshit and « adulting » , Discovering 20 YEARS LATER that the Marauders fandom is thriving is just so amazing to me.
Great video to get this old kook up to speed. 😊
1:56:44 i read a fic where they addressed this and basically said that many people built up immunity to truth serum by having a little bit every day so it was banned for courtrooms and stuff. i'm pretty sure it's actual thing called mithridatism where people build immunity to poison.
You explaining the plot might just have been the funniest thing I’ve ever witnessed in my life
In a bunch of the fanfics I read Pandora is the ultimate neutral zone between all the character dynamics. It doesn’t matter who’s fighting if Pandora says to stop you do. It can lead to very funny scenes like when Sirius and Regulus were about to get into a fight and Pandora just walks up and they both immediately desecelate. Or like one time Barty hurt her feeling on accident and every single person in the lunch room in the scene turned to look at him like he was garbage it’s wonderful because shes definition of indiscriminately nice. She’s also commonly a seer.
CORRECTION
1:51:04 noooo this is so important in the fandom!! its alright tho.
Snape was in the Hog's head undercover, overhearing the prophecy. He tells voldemort because at this time he is still loyal to him. Harry gets born and Snape finds out/gets notified/whatever. As Snape thinks about this he realises the prophecy might be about Harry and goes to Dumbledore, and begs him to keep Lily safe. This is the time he also switches sides and becomes part of the order of the phoenix.
A head cannon I saw that I like a lot is that pandora's maiden name is lovegood, and xenophilis was a disgraced malfoy, and when he married pandora he changed his name to hers to distance himself from his ancestry. I've also seen it where they invented the lovegood name because she was a rosier and he was a malfoy. I think it stems from him having the same platinum hair as the malfoys, which is really only seen in the malfoys and pandora (and luna, obviously, because pandora and xeno are both that platinum blonde)
I remember shipping Remus and Sirus the first time I saw Prisoner of Azkaban (it seriously feels canon in that movie) I didn't know there were such recent popular fics about the mauraders era. It makes me happy that this fandom is thriving! (Especially because JK has nothing to do with it lol)
And this was a great video btw! I watched the entire thing while drawing.
33:57 I love that headcanon especially bc it kind of means that Harry could be mistaken as a weasley too, which is funny considering Draco and his first interaction. Like imagine it goes like
"Red hair, and... new robes? Whatever, you must be a weasley" and Harry decides to fuck with him like "Hell yeah I am, me and good old Ronny here are actually twins"
As a member of the marauders fandom, I will be sending this to my confused friends
I love the girls in this fandom and I am so sick of lily Evans bashing! Justice for the marauders girls
YES! The unhinged hours long video I've been waiting for!!!
I've seen fics where Pandora is a Trelawney sister rather than a Rosier one more often tbh, but maybe that's just based on what I prefer reading. Also, in some fics Alice is a Lestrange, which is ofc another level of angst
i think if i was 5 years younger i would have been so into the fandom. i really loved the books and movies growing up, but rowling sucks so bad and i hard pushed away from the material because of it. i was disillusioned because i saw how flawed and hurtful the story i loved was. but there’s still stuff i do like and took a lot away from it, even though im a lot more critical of it now because i developed a frontal lobe lol. i want to give a hug to everyone taking this world and making it their own and deciding they get to belong in this world that’s expanded far beyond its creator.
Honestly for me it feels transphobic to even TALK about Harry Potter sometimes. I feel like I’m committing a hate crime mentioning it because Rowling destroyed it so thoroughly. I’m so glad they could reclaim it.
This was soooooo helpful, thank you! I've been a long time harry Potter fan and I've been trying to get into Marauders era for a while, but I've been intimidated by the depth of the lore. This was so incredibly helpful for that!!
Of course!! This is exactly why I wanted to make the video :))
If you need fic recs I have several
Yes please
@@gabbycohen932
I got you :)
Here are a few of my favorite canon compliant fics. Most of them are longfics, but I also have some one shots!
- Through a Glass Darkly by lightinthehallway
- The last Enemy by CH_Darling
- The Life and Times by jewels5
- The rise and the fall of the stag and the doe by Siriusuntiltheveryend
Some AUs:
- And the wolves all cry by monroeslittle
- Sunshine in my eyes by monroeslittle
- I'll be fine, I'll be good by Kay_elle_cee
Those are a whole lot of great ones, I have more if you want them!!
As someone who was vaguely in the marauders fandom in like 2011-2015, it’s so crazy to see how it’s exploded and evolved so much. I just can’t get behind Remus not being a soft boy though it’s the main thing that has stopped me from just breaking down and reading atyd 😅
hi hi i am a third type of viewer: someone uninvolved in the marauders but who loves spectating all major fandoms as an outsider! i've always been curious about and impressed by the mass fanon creativity of the marauders fandom as it's developed... in my memory wolfstar (do they still call it that? i'm only 10 minutes into this video LOL) has been a common ship since the early 2010s, but when i started seeing fic on ao3 about regulus black in the last few years i knew y'all's horizons had Expanded lmao!! i was deep into the kylux sub-fandom under the star wars sequel trilogy fandom umbrella, and my fav part of that fandom was the fanon creations and collective effort to flesh out characters who got very little screen-time or canon depth to their backstories/personalities. but that was NOTHING compared to what the marauders fandom has done, y'all have created your own entire narrative world working off the barest of scraps, and have established a passionate and collaborative community surrounding it! to me that is beautiful, innovative, and genuinely impressive. excited to watch the rest of this now LOL!
I am in awe, Jesus Christ this was thorough!!!!! I cannot imagine how long this took, great job :) A few of my favorite hcs also:
1. Welsh Remus! It's canon that Hope worked in an insurance office in Cardiff and met Lyall while taking a walk in a Welsh forest (weird way to meet, but ok, Joe), so it's commonly hc'd that Hope and Lyall (or just Hope) were Welsh and that Remus speaks Welsh (there are some lovely fics where Remus refers to Sirius with Welsh terms of endearment like cariad). Love this one because Welsh language rights have been systematically diminished or taken away by the English for the past...800 years? And the Marauders fandom is so consistently pushing against oppressive status quos :)
2. In canon, Hermione describes Remus as having patches and darning over damage on his clothes, so it's not much of a headcanon, but I do like imagining Remus with a darning mushroom darning away at his clothes both out of neccesity (being of low socioeconomic class (but also this another example of Joe's weird ways of showing that ppl are poor)) but also as a meditative ritual kind of thing. I do love divorcing the idea of fiber arts (like mending) being feminine and it's nit-picky, but it does kinda annoy me how Hermione said it as a bad thing, implying it would've been better for him to buy new clothes when the ones he had worked fine and were fixable (which speaks to the consistent themes of overconsumption and capitalism in HP canon but I digress). Basically, I just love the idea of Remus mending his clothes (and a non-canon hc: knitting)
just another older marauders fan dropping in to put a very heartfelt stamp of approval on the new direction the fandom is going with these characters and stories. they’re even more compelling now! and I think that’s entirely because the fandom at large has fully embraced the need to divorce itself from rowling and her cruelty - thereby allowing them to be much more creative by playing fast and loose with her canon. which is, at times, so profoundly idiotic and poorly written that it’s hard for it not to really stifle and hamper the telling of good stories.
it also really cracks me up to think back on my own time in the fandom, and how my interest in the first place was only stemming from my teen self having the hugest crushes on remus and sirius and both of their actors - so imagined my newly awakening queer self’s DELIGHT at discovering fan content where they KISSED. dream come true. god fucking bless fanfic for that.
Were you on LJ at the time? :)
Sorry for my broken english, but I need to get this out of my chest. I am a millennial, the first book came out in my language when I was 7 years old. I am now 31 years old. I was super Harry Potter fan, reading the books 20+ times when I was a child and a teen. I wouldn't say I was in fandom, because I didn't have internet till I was 13 so I had no way of interacting with other people who created. And I didn't learn english until I was 19. So for first 12 years of my Harry Potter journey I daydreamed, spoke with my classmates and friends, wrote my own stories, then the internet came and I found myself on Harry Potter forums (in my language), where I roleplayed as Lily Potter most of the time (or my OC) I loved marauders era, I saw so much potential there. At the time I read like 1 available marauders fanfic, I read Dramione a lot and as a anime fan I spend my fanfiction days on reading Naruto fanfiction :D Then the films came out and I didn't like them that much tbh. Like I would rewatch the first three but the others I don't really care about. I was in rage with 7th movie the only thing I liked was the music. As I grew and started to poke my head in english sites, like the original Pottermore which I adored. And of course I started to learn about Rowling and problems in the books. TBH half the things I didn't even notice, because they were either missing in translation (I never read HP in original) or I didn't notice because I already had headcanon that fixed it (my favorite kind of headcanon is the kind which complete something incomplete). But Rowling as a person can burn in hell. In recent years, I fall out from Harry Potter completely. I didn't touch the books like 8 years now, didn't watch movies and didn't play the games. So as I am no longer Harry Potter fan, I can tell I am marauder fan still, because the only things I am going back to are marauders edits on youtube. I don't read marauder fanfiction, I saw couple of fanarts at random, edits are the only things I often watch. After watching this video, I can definitely say I am not in this fandom either, because there is so much lore and this lore is diametraly different from the marauders lore I grew up with and from the edits I know and adore. Like half of the characters from this video I didn't see one edit of. I didn't even ship wolfstar, there always was something unspoken between them but I didn't ship them together. I am from times when Marlene was shipped with Sirius, and oh boy this fandom went a long way from this. Also my Marlene is Alicia Vikander I was so surprised with actresses in this video. I am living in different era of this fandom. The reason I watched this video is that week ago I found out Timothee Chalamet is fancasted as Regulus Black and I just somehow dive in marauders era once more, watching some new edits here, even on tik tok. I always loved Regulus, and my characterisation of him is nothing like said in this video, but his face is from now Timothees. I even tried to read some fanfic but it was Jegulus and I didn't even finish it.. it was totally out of this world for me and my Jily heart. But I must say: I absolutely adore what people did with this fandom. Its the big middle finger to Rowling, to have so much queer and poc characters, and how this fandom come to adore and love them, to write the Bible lenght novels with these characters, to make beautiful edits and fanarts. I love the fluidity in this fandom, everybody can headcanon someone else, it is more diverse, more bigger, more modern. It is what is needed in these times, so everybody keep up the good work. Great video!
one of my favorite mary head canons is that she was ace and slept around bc she thought something was wrong with her
and also i read one fic where peters gf died in a death eater attack dumbledore could have prevented but chose not too and that's why he turned traitor and i thought that was fun
Omg ace Mary!!! I love that
Only the Brave by Solmussa I’m 90% sure is the fic or else there are two fics with that exact premise
I used to be in this fandom circa 2017 to 2019 so this is a fascinating look into how that fandom has evolved. I wrote a wolfstar fic around that time that has some of the "older" characterizations of Remus and James. This almost makes me want to go back and finish it...
only 30 minutes in and i’m so glad you’re talking about the girlies and the misogyny within this fandom i love the valkyries so much and they aren’t talked about enough
edit also pandora i didn’t forget her i just group her with both the valkyries and ss in my mind i love her too
#2 also the black sisters and alice just any lady in this fandom
They’re so underrepresented in this fandom!! Every single one of them is so interesting and their characters are more than what most fans let on
hi just some info about snapes parents! his mum is a witch, her name is eileen prince and his dad is the muggle (his mum was like cut off from her pureblood family bc she married a muggle). i understand where all the snape hate comes from but also he has a special place in my heart but like specifically only in my own headcanons with my oc's lol and that timeline takes place in like the in between time between lily and james' death and harry starting hogwarts
ok but your lil smile when you started talking about remus 🥺🥺🥺
Omg, I love a good deep dive, about something I don't know much about. And this, THIS was a great deep dive
if someone was to ever ask me what the marauders were, I would automatically drag them over to this video/your channel. I am begging you, PLEASE make videos about the tragedies between the relationships and friendships in this fandom because the words you use and the way you explain things is so eye opening and it gives even me--a fan for 3 years--such a bigger view of these characters. I've always been a major Slytherin Skittles and The Valkyries fan so seeing you agreeing with them needing more recognition just warms my heart. Definitely following you.
I love people talking about things I enjoy so much, incredible work on the video!
Thank you :))
As a young teenager who is still growing up with the franchise since the age of five I hate Jk so much. But because of the wonderful world she created I’ve found ways to enjoy it without profiting her. Buying merch and books second hand,Buying from small businesses ect. I love seeing people take the amazing fantasy world that came from a not so good person and use it to rebel against her and her beliefs. I would definitely consider myself more of an hp fan than the marauders,but I think it’s so cool what people are doing with it. As always stay creative ❤
So very interesting to see how the fandom has changed and adapted these days! I was in the Marauder fandom back in 2005 era when it was all about The Shoebox Project - a now unfinished fic that combined art and photos and normal fanfiction writing. Me and my friends were OBSESSED! This was gr10 for me and we totally assigned each of us the personalities of the Marauders and were just cringey nerdy teenagers - we wrote notes to each other in class like the fic and literally stored them in a shoebox (which I still have!) and called each other Moony, Padfoot, Wormtail, and Prongs...good times ^__^ Love how the characters have grown and become waaaaaaay more inclusive! Love to see it!
I’m so happy this exists, not just because I like to know things, but also because you included the actor names of the face claims, cause there are so many I don’t know the names of.
i’m biiig jegulus shipper (bc they remind me of drarry) but i personally like additional complication of bfb and i am so scared of reading choices (i started it and i’m on chapter 10 and it’s already so heartbreaking) CAUSE I KNOOOOW HOW IT ENDS which is just….like the point but ugh tragedies are tragedies. i’m sticking to fix it and aus right now lol
Choices is so beautifully written even though I quite literally sobbed at the end, it was so worth it to me
DUDE NO WAY i got into this fandom due to uncarly's video!! Most of my friends love this fandom but i just never got into it bc it was too confusing..thanks for making this!!!! Its so helpful!!!
someone get this girl famous on youtube I love this shit
The marauders fandom. A fandom so powerful, popular, so internet famous people think it's canon.
Please do a video on the black family lore!! Its so interesting and i love the way you talk
its definitely in the works right now!!! not sure when it will go up but i so want to make it
worst part is I won't read any of the fics, I just like listening to timeline evaluations on fandoms I am loosely apart of (and I'm writing a dr for marauders as are a lot of people I assume) you're really good at explaining things))
videos like this from articulate and passionate people are some of the few good things about the internet
As a 12 year old new marauders fan, this helped a lot! Thank you!
i was dying at bartholomew sorry it was hilarious to me 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I really enjoyed the segment where you describe the entire marauders timeline. now I desperately want you to make a video on wolfstar ship timeline and headcanons please!! I've been obsessively watching edits and fanarts of them but don't have the time to pick up a 500k words fic.
@@praptyy8 I am working on a recap vid of ATYD right now!! For all the peeps that want to know but don’t have the time to read it
@@brookesmoon omg thank you in advance! You're an angel
Oof. Yes on fandom hating Dumbledore. There's a reason why there are so many Dumbledore Critical or Dumbledore Bashing fics out there. Seriously though, I think once people who read Harry Potter or watched the movies weren't little kids anymore, they realized how awful he was, starting from the moment we meet him when he's leaving an orphaned Harry with his abusive aunt and uncle (who he continuously sends him back to. There's also a reason why we have stories where people are horrified that Harry named one of his sons Albus Severus when if he wanted to name him after dead guys, people like Remus and Cedric were RIGHT there. They didn't create child soldiers or bully children).
Like, imagine Neville finding out that one of his students' middle name is that of the man who bullied him. Or imagine Albus Severus asking people who aren't his dad about the guys he was named after.
Oh my god yeah imagine "hey do you know my name sakes?" "Oh yeah a corrupt grampa who made child soldiers and a snake who bullied children because he was mean to his crush and got rejected/taunted as a child not to mention Severus kills Albus horrible people...who did you say your parents are again?" Like uhh no you don't name your children after people who through you into sh!t that could kill you
@@ledoggo9723 Yes! You know someone would tell Albus Severus or his siblings about what Snape and Dumbledore were actually like. Like, "My mum told me that it always upset her parents that your dad was sent to his abusive aunt and uncle every summer." or "My grams never liked Dumbledore. She hated how he basically created child soldiers". That's not even getting into kids whose parents were bullied by Snape when he was their teacher. Or the one whose grandparents knew him and knew that he was obsessed with Lily.
as an AVID jegulus shipper(i would kill for them) but someone who also enjoys jily and loves harry i came up with my own timeline that sounded the most canon to me was:
james loves lily,
she hates him,
james meets regulus,
james loves regulus,
they secretly get together,
regulus does his death eater thing,
james and lily end up together,
regulus "dies" but acc faked it and goes round killing horcruxes,
james and lily have harry,
regulus reveals himself as alive and everyone kills voldemort,
james and regulus get together,
lily gets with mary,
HAPPY EVER AFTER
I've known about the core four forever but I've only ever had a vauge understanding of the Slytherins and everyone else. I could never find a concise explanation (because there's almost no canon 😭) This was a huge help clarifying things, thank you for your service 🙏
i love that my subtitles capitalized Fanon and Canon/
most beautiful fandom to ever exist
i started reading maraunders fics bc i wanted more harry potter content but damn... all these fics make me do is sob my eyes out. the first fic i read was crimson rivers and i havent actually recovered mentally from that
Ooh that’s a rough one to start out with
@@allygaytor funnily enough its what made me hooked instantly onto the marauders characters, despite the fact that a bunch of them died or were extremely traumatized. I love me a good tragedy
Loving all Slytherins EXEPT Snape is honestly the wierdest part
It’s a strange oxymoron that exists in this fandom 🤷🏼♀️
Honestly the slytheren 'characteristic' is ambition like the gryffindor character is bravery, hufflepuffs are kind/loyal and ravenclaws are smart😊. I understand why so many people villinize an entire hogwarts house considering who we see from slytherin eg. Tom ridle, Bellatrix, the Blacks (-sirius), Luscious BASICALLY bad peopelle 😅
Lol that was a lot, sorry, I just have no maurouder friends 😭
As a Regulus stan - it's because Snape was written as unattractive in the books
Like I like Snape(yes I’ve read the books) so does that make me not apart of the marauders fandom lol?
I've been waiting for this ! I'll be sending this to all my confused friends, thank youuu!
wanted to add something for my fellow slytherin skittles fans out there.
Barty was never actually mentioned being there at the time when Alice and Frank were being tortured and if he was, he had already lost his mind at that moment (wether it be bc of rosekiller or the death of his friends, that's your choice!)
Let's also not fail to remember that Barty was literally Imperio'd by his own father for 13 years and I'm sure that had also taken a major toll on his sanity, even though this was after everything with Alice and Frank and Evan and all his friends.
Another head-canon thing to mention is that Regulus had actually planned everything this way because he knew he couldn't escape and that he was going to be the heir at the end of the day. He had done research about the horcruxes since his 5th year so he knew literally everything and how to destroy Voldy, and it did take him a while to realize his parents didn't actually love him, but when he did it was pretty easy to go forth with his plan.
Also very popular that Regulus was the one that told James about the mark and lied about loving him in the first place because he wanted James to stay safe and he also knew he was going to die so he didn't want to give James so much grief, even though the letter he sent to James (and Sirius + his friends) was quite literally heartbreaking. He just thought that if James thought he hated him and lied about the love he had for him, it would make it easier for James to move on from him and he even went so far as to think that James didn't love him enough and that his death wouldn't affect him that badly. (Which it did, by the way.)
Another head-canon that Marlene had actually snuck out during 'lockdown' to see Dorcas and this had made Dorcas very upset and worried that Marlene would be followed/killed, and offered her to stay at her house, which she declined. She later found out Marlene and her whole family had died, which had led to Dorcas basically going ham and becoming so strong that Voldemort himself had to come kill her.
Pandora had received a letter from Regulus with his goodbye and how much he loved her (obviously), and also telling her about his plan. She begins to figure out ways to destroy the horcrux, and she later finds out that Dorcas had also gotten the same information, and they began to help each other since they were the only two that hadn't become death eaters, and it was easier to be together than to be alone and handle the loss of all their friends (wether it be their death or because they became death eaters.) They obviously died at the end of the day!
Last one: I know many people believe that Pandora had been disowned or ran away, but I like to think she wasn't until she grew older and after her twin brother died. I like to head-canon that since Evan had joined the death eaters and she hadn't (or maybe she did but she was a spy for The Order), that this caused their relationship to literally obliterate. There would be days where they couldn't look each other in the eyes, and there would often be days where Evan would literally come crawling to her begging her on his knees to forgive him, to not leave him because he didn't want to be alone. She would comfort him too, sobbing with him and cradling him in her arms almost like a mother would. But right when they stopped and pulled away, it would repeat. Day and night, every single day and it hurt Pandora so much, but she couldn't forgive him. She couldn't trust him anymore.
Don't start me on the Mars bars, i'm going to cry (SPOILER: he came back from a missian with werewolfs and hadn't seen Pads for a long time, he bought two Mars bars one for him and one for Sirius, only to come to their flat and see Mary, who tells him what happened with James, Lily, Pete and Sirius, so the Mars bars stay as like, i donno, something symbolic and really sad)
The mars bars are from atyd too, I'm not crying you are
you know the speaker is good when a person with adhd (me) decides to listen to the entire intro without skipping it
1:02:04 yes and apparently he tried to make a deal with voldemort where he basically asked him to save lily and kill james and harry like "you can kill a baby i don't care but don't kill the woman i'm obsessed with"
52:27 pandora being a rosier could make her related to regulus aswell since the black sister’s mother canonically is a rosier, so pandora could be cousins with the black sisters and related to regulus through them which is quite cool ! :)
I love the Marauders as an idea and like hearing about the ‘new’ head cannons but I’m afraid nothing can replace The Life and Times in my head! As I’m not really involved in the current fandom it is so bizarre to me that that fanfic is now outside the main fanon. It lacked any queer elements but was so perfect and exceptionally written in every other way 😊
as a person who fell into marauders fandom just several months ago i find this video really useful. now i know WHY and HOW Jegulus exists. why and more importantly HOW? rosekiller exist. and why everyone trans now.
it’s beautiful here 💛
I barely have the attention span to write a text message but I watched this whole thing with no breaks. Also I’m really happy to see someone who doesn’t hate on Peter when he was younger because so many people in this fandom just bully him or ignore him
25:10 "none of us are happy here. we're all very very sad people." that's so real because we're really out her imagining horrific and traumatic scenarios for characters that we also made up off based on another persons fictional characters and drowning in our own tears. (the urge to make a depressing joke about Reg drowning...) EDIT: omg I hadn't even watched the rest of the video yet when I commented and I just got to the part where you say there's a lot of joke about Regulus drowning 😭
I made 2 pins about regs drowning one saying where are you reggie?? with cliffs in water and another sqying wait I think I see him COME BACK REGGIE!!
Obvi on pintrest
Thank you sm for this video !! I've just recently been getting into this fandom, specifically marauders as I've been in the general hp one for ages, and I'm currently reading atyd. I can't thank you enough for how much of a help this video has been in clarifying all the questions and confusions I had surrounding all of the different characters from this era. I also just wanna say you seem so so sweet and adorable and I didn't get bored for a single minute watching this whole video so thank you !!
The Black family is canonically French. Their motto is French in the Order of the Phoenix. Tonjours Pur I believe
I’m rejoining the fandom after 4 years 😭😭 I adore wolfstar
mars bars are from all the yung dudes i think. remus comes from a mission to his and sirius' flat to try and resolve an argument (i think) and sort of apologise because he's not home a lot. he bought two mas bars as like a peace offering. he sets them on a table because his phone starts ringing. and then he finds out about lily, james and peter's deaths and sirius' imprisonment. so the mars bars just lay there on the table while he has a mental breakdown.
Me: Bored.
2 hours later: has 25 page, handwritten document on EVERYTHING about the mauraders (i took notes, pls help)
😂
starting this with wolfstar was the perfect touch, I haven't even watched a minute but I know this is going to be amazing
i never ever comment on videos but with the amount of work put into this video with not enough recognition i felt the need to. i feel watched the uncarley video when it came out but I found this one more informative - keep doing what you’re doing gorgeous
i hate that i knew pretty much all of this but i never had a proper overview of it? 😭 I'm close to finishing the video and this was a really good watch 😊 (I'm sick and too tired to read so big thank you for giving me marauder content in this state)
@@buddygu4rd155 I hope you feel better soon 🫶🏻
@@brookesmoon awe thank you! 🥹
Damnit i can feel the hyperfixation building throughout this whole video… dang.
also i felt the need to share my favorite ever marauders fanfic, “Peter Pettigrew and the Ghost of Christmas James” by gonzoclock on AO3. It takes place something like 3 years after the whole halloween james + lily dying etc. but it has the best characterization of peter i have ever seen. it’s way more plot-focused than ship-focused, it explores the idea that lily used darker magic to protect harry and also james comes back as a ghost. anywayssss highly it, although it might not be everyone’s favorite :]
(sorry i ranted a little 😅)
i enjoyed the video a lot, i hope you have a great day/night!!
I love the structure of the video, it's very comprehensive
this was my sign for joining the mauraders fandom after years of being in the shadows only liking tiktoks and fanart of them occasionally
i confused dorcas, marlene and mary ALL the time i cant even tell u