Vegeta: The Sympathetic Antihero
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Let me just say I don't think I'm the "King of Character Analysis" or anything. But in terms of making a video project, this is currently the hardest I've ever worked on a video. I REALLYYYY hope you guys enjoy, and if there's disagreements I'm all ears. Thank you for anybody watching this video it means more than you can imagine.
I know I'm one of many, but straight up you did a great job. I'd watch these all day and am sending out to the homies. Side note, I think Goku's supreme kai threat is tragically underrated
You get a like for this alone. Looking forward to watching the whole thing
Totally not mark makes anime analysis videos like this and I can watch hours of those videos.
This video is quality keep it up.
Make sure these videos are enjoyable to produce that it not performing as good as you wanted cos there are lots who do think it is
I love your content bro, you did a great job ❤
I think Vegeta respects Gohan so much because of what happened on Namek. Gohan was in the TRENCHES😂 and Vegeta saw it all. Ever since then, his attitude toward him began to change.
DBZA Vegeta telling Gohan he’s sorry, even in the actual show I just like how DBZA did it better, was so peak. Hearing Vegeta actually be truly sorry, god damn.
Oddly enough. I know you don't think this but, you're really good at character analysis videos considering you really have a great understanding of the characters and can break down your reasonings in a well thought manner
there's room for improvement, still wet behind the ears
it's refreshing seeing someone actually talk about these characters with understanding & even referencing events from the series & not just citing memes & inaccurate fan statements.
Dragon Ball is far from a perfectly written story but it's so much deeper & more character focused than people give it credit for.
Yeah but after looking deep into media I've realised most series just can't be written perfectly unless it is subjective. It gets weird
@@pric3lessl0s3r5 not to mention Toriyama couldn't submit a single idea without his editors telling him it sucked and he needed something new. the fact they made him invent basically 6 new characters bc they didn't like any of his ideas is insane.
@@reallyhim410 Yeah. It's pretty sad but I heard that's even the reason why Toriyama made perfect cell 'perfect because how his editorial staff butchered him about his own designs and writing standpoints he wanted. Luckily Shounen had changed since then and mangaka's have more freedom. Which just makes Dragonball even more foundational.
Namek vegeta will always be my favorite vegeta because he used every dirty trick in the book in most encounters and tried spamming the zenkai boost. He was willing to do anything for the slightest advantage and i loved that.
Vegeta carried the entire Namek Saga. There were 4 factions, the Earthlings, The Nameks, Frieza's Army, and Vegeta, and Vegeta's actions and who he aligned himself with at any given time basically drove the story forward. He was sneaky when he had to be and aggressive when it was advantageous for him to do so.
Vegeta has been iconic since he hit our screens. But for me, he became a hallmark in character development when I watched a super episode (and I hate super) where he was at am amusement park with his family, as well as the moment he held his daughter. All I could think was look how far the Character has come. From being a cold and ruthless galactic warmonger to loving family man who fights to protect his family and new home. I really wish Super allowed killing in the TOP so the stakes could really be felt. It would have been amazing to see Vegeta revert back into his ruthless Saiyan Saga/Namek days in order to ensure his daughter gets to experience life, even knowingly destroying another Saiyan race to do so. Also Universe 7 was full of killers, it would have been great to see how their bloodlust would have clashed with or even grew on Goku throughout the fight.
He got my attention since he came on screen. He's my favorite
Been waiting for this since the Goku vid. Would love to see a Gohan character analysis cuz that’s my favorite character
Gohan next up? Hmmm
Or a Trunks video and yo thoughts on him
My Goat’s fall off needs to be studied unfortunately 😞
Such a slept on analysis of his character. It's apart of my playlist of videos I listen to while I'm on a run.
Bro…you’re so good at character analysis!
Yes. I love that you highlighted his relationship with Gohan, I completely agree with all your points of interest, Vegeta definitely has pride in Gohan and respects his potential. We love Uncle Vegeta 💯
Underrated moment for vegeta in super....black arc. Showed the evolution and how much he cares for his son. Bulma talks to him makes him understand what there son is going through. Vegeta does nothing but support him in every moment. To me thats vegeta at his best
Also what he told Goku Black showing he has deep respect for Goku's journey and progress
@pric3lessl0s3r5 yes definitely!
Love these deep analysis
Brings me back to why I love Dragon Ball and can’t wait to see who or what anime character is next☝🏾
glad you fw the vid gang !! wait won’t be but but long 🤫
as kids goku was our favorite, but as we grew we realized how real vegeta is
My favorite Anime RUclipsr
Originally Toriyama didn’t plan on keeping Vegeta to be a part of the main cast, so it probably explains why, he was written to appear not to care about the Saiyan race or anyone else.
when it comes to the idea of goku vs. vegeta being a “nature vs. nurture” fight, something people forget is that goku’s friends are PART OF THE NURTURING.
a key difference in goku and vegeta’s upbringing is that goku embraces friendship and sentiment. sure, getting help in a fight feels lame for the reader, but it reinforces the superiority of goku’s nurture vs. vegeta’s nature. goku getting help from his friends doesn’t prove that vegeta is better by nature, it proves that through a nurturing environment you can achieve things you never could by nature alone.
I always wondered why Vegeta never turned SSJ2 after Cell killed Trunks. He had all the makings to go past that breaking point.
I can’t lie it’s better as a tragedy with him not being strong enough. A similar amount of rage, if not higher because of who he is, was required for Gohan as a Full Power SSJ to reach SSJ2.
Vegeta being around Grade 2-3 level making that jump would be kinda crazy.
he doesn't give trunks the time of the day because at the beginning of it thats a grown ass man thats a stranger talking about sup dad? you'd be acting funky too. That's why Vegeta did not get stronger when Cell killed Trunks. He really had to think about if he should get upset or not. edit - We knew he thought something of Trunks. He trained with him but let's take it back to way before that. Vegeta saw Goku and Trunks in his SLEEP when he was having a nightmare
Not gon lie sage I usually check you for laughs on anime and basketball. This however is every bit as good as the top tier analysis I’ve seen from others. Good shit Brodie, keep expanding the content and working hard. You got hella potential to tap into
I seen this five months ago, but I felt like this is also one of your deeper videos, so I wanted to give a couple paragraphs on it when I reflected more on life first, and then the series as a whole.
Vegeta's bad moments have good qualities that aren't understood by half of the fanbase, and ultimately, people never get to understand his good moments as a result of it. You can have the consensus that he's a great dynamic character with a bit of overratedness to him and be right, but then be completely wrong as to why that is the case. Also, damn you snapped on this video lookin back. More of this for sure, it's a better analysis than most people. I don't think anyone has the Crown for that, but a lot of people end up missing a point whereas it doesn't seem you did. Some things don't have to be said after you say enough, and some people forget that. Some people make it their duty to add in that one little detail that we all would remember nonetheless.
In all honesty, the thing you pointed out about people loving Namek Vegeta more than Saiyan Vegeta in terms of evil behavior is such a key point. I think that's why a lot of people misunderstood what Vegeta did when first entering Ultra Ego too. It's not fanservice to the Saiyan Saga when the core destructive self of who he used to be was most portrayed there. I entirely agree on that too, Vegeta was on much darker timing in the Saiyan Arc as opposed to Namek. He swallowed his pride more than once during Namek deep down. That wasn't what he was trying to do in Ultra Ego. But that form definitely has a lot to do with who Vegeta is as a character. Psychologically, its power is based off of his self control. I do think that Vegeta's sympathetic qualities from the Namek arc ended up bringing this sort of nostalgia factor, and it steered all opinions that way instead of highlighting every important quality. Dude's been cold from jump, but it's not specifically a moment that made him so great. To the people who believe that, it's an insane notion to me. Does Goku have a peak defining moment, or would it be the culmination? I think the latter for both characters.
Came for the basketball stayed for the Dragon Ball
Great break down of one of my favorite anime characters of all time. Continue making these types of videos.
Best character analysis Ive Iistened to. You seem to come from a place of love for the character and not just love of the franchise or for the writing. Im my opinion thats the best way to do so.
Vegeta is originally low key not so low key wicked jelly Goku has a prodigy son while he has no son. He is also heated that Goku is okay with Gohan being a nerd. But like Goku and Vegeta at that point have way different lived experiences Goku is thinking if he stays dead everything is going to be fine that everyone is already strong enough which is kinda understandable for him to think that he was a grown man with a child prior to fighting a real challenge in Raditz. While Vegeta as a kid saw crazy monster energy since he was a kid. When a real threat comes back Vegeta has a prodigy son but he ain't quite old enough yet. So he is pissed at Gohan for being a nerd because it would have been just so easy for him to whoop the entire Bibiddy Babiddy Buu Squad in no time if he wasn't reading books and going to Hercule High n stuff. He gotta take the gauntlets off an get dirty he has to become Majin Vegeta for that energy boost it just happens to not work right off the bat but he gotta work out his frustration Goku being dead he's gotta Dad shame Goku a bit
Respect for the work put in, bro. And for the clear and obvious love of the story, and my G, Vegeta. His character archetype is Loveable Asshole, and I have such a soft spot for it. His respect and appreciation of Gohan is such an underappreciated part of his character, especially before the Buu Saga and Super, where it's apparentness becomes more obvious as to slap the more derpy of us in the face lol.
I love it when you make these. Always entertaining and informative.
W vid, entirely summarized everything i thought about vegeta and his character in db. hope to see more videos like this in the future
Never in a million years did I think I would learn so many interesting perspectives about a character I care so much about., I thought I knew vegeta's character like the back of my hand but there's so many things I never considered about him that i heard about in this video. You're character analysis is great my boy, keep it up the dragonball and anime content is always fire
I usually don't comment but gotta say good character analysis my guy ... your video essay are getting better and better keep up the good work bro
These are the sort of videos I’ve been thinking about making for a long time. A lot of DBZ “analysis” haven’t been fully thought through, so there’s a lot of accepted nonsense and shallow think pieces when there’s so many interesting conversations that could be had over DBZ.
Like it’s as popular as it is for a reason, Toriyama is a much better writer than people give him credit for, the story is damn good, and the characters are even better
This was a great idea and video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥you should definitely do more of these bro these are types of videos is gonna grow and diversify the channel keep up the great content!!!💯💯💯💯
It’s a well constructed video bro. Even the editing alone of getting all the clips and the background music changes takes a lot of work. Keep working 💯
I been loving these essay type videos you got I just think you should put them on a separate channel if you plan on posting more of them great content as always sage🖤
IMO, the best part I like about Vegetable, is how he became a family man.
Great video bro. Vegeta hands down my favorite character on dbz and u hit all the nails on the head
Thank you for making a video explaining one of my favorite anime characters
This was a great character analysis, I would like to see how you felt about Vegeta ultra ego moment and goku true ultra instinct moment but other than that 10/10 character analysis
Sage... SAGE... You stuck your whole foot in this, and this was amazing! Amazing work, just downright amazing analysis
You are really good at these. 😂 keep it up sage
The long awaited video is finally here 🔥🔥
Good shit sage, keep going with this content is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I needed this🤧
Well this is a great character analyzation. I would like you to do if you were up to. One on piccolo and Gohan's relationship. Along with both of their character arc.
Honestly this is a great video and even if you’re not the “King of Character Analysis” this is REALLY good work. I’m gonna start the critique by saying that I don’t do content. I’ve thought about it, and just keep making excuses I guess. My critique comes from what’s probably just a differing opinion in the Saiyans’ relationship to Frieza or what I thought they perceived that relationship to be. As the viewer, given the huge gap in power and the complete lack of agency that any of his subordinates had because of it. It’s clear to us that the Saiyans were slaves but I always got the vibe that the Saiyans believed that they were working for Frieza as a part of his empire by choice. You also mentioned early on in the video that Vegeta could have potentially wanted revenge against Frieza at some point when you said that you were “not saying that Vegeta never wanted to avenge his race” but I think that maybe that was the case. Vegeta only found out that Frieza destroyed the Planet Vegeta when Dodoria told him on Namek. To me, that’s when he started to shift from selfishly wanting to become immortal in order to become strong enough to overthrow Frieza and possibly even become the new ruler of his empire, to wanting to defeat Frieza in order to avenge his race. In the grand scheme of things it’s actually a pretty small difference and probably doesn’t affect the majority of this character analysis but it stuck out to me and I think it does kinda change the his motivations until the mid-Namek Saga.
Loved this video and the fact that it gave me the chance to think about a series I love in a way that I probably wouldn’t have otherwise. If you wanna talk more about this just lmk, I’m always down to talk anime. I’m in the LKIAB discord too @N4JEE
We did actually get a short monologue of Vegeta hyping up his son to cell, which showed he had pride in him.
Bro this deserves WAY more attention.
I just wanted to say this is a really good video man. I was talking to my brother abt vegeta being overrated (not in a bad way) but this video reminded me what makes vegeta nd the vid 🐐’d
Great video. I think you could have gone over the you’re number one speech since people tend to use it against him, saying he regressed after but I can see why you didn’t. A piccolo or Gohan vid next would go hard.
Yea I don’t hate his #1 speech at all. It shows that he isn’t narrow sighted and can call things for what they are while still also being the most prideful guy I’ve ever heard of
Been patiently waiting 🙇🏾
Great video bro.
vegeta on namek is my favorite arc for him. every moment is just amazing
W vid, W take. Wonder what they're gonna do with Vegeta next!
I’ve been waiting for this video for a minute 🎉🎉
This is fire sage
I don't think I've heard anyone talk about Vegeta like this. Sage bodied this video.
W vid. Can’t wait for the next one.
If Think Vegeta is the peak example of a man thats forced to swallow his pride and get the job done
Personally he's bin a dick for half of the anime
And after getting humbled by pretty much almost every major villain and changes every single time
This is a great vid ive been waiting for a vegeta vid. can you make a gohan vid next?
excellent video sage
Tso next arc: Character analysis. I'm here for it
this was amazing
Honestly i want the major Z Fighters to have a major win. I want VEGETA, FAT BUU, ANDROID17 and PICCOLO to have a major win.
In a way, I wonder if Saiyans have a similar group dynamic to apes/monkeys. I say this not in a mockery way like Frieza, but because a lot of earth monkey/ape families function as large family groups with the strongest male being physically present to protect and defend the group but remaining somewhat removed from the family circles. The male keeps watch and guards, always there but more as an observer always on patrol. Vegeta plays this role quite a lot on Earth. Looking after all the young half-Saiyans and their families + the weaker earth based fighters. We don’t see more than one or two Saiyans in the same area. Vegeta takes on a protective mentor-like role for all the younger Saiyans and the Earth gang. He does NOT treat Goku that way because Goku is his rival, but Vegeta plays a very almost fatherlike role for Trunks, Gohan, and Goten. Fatherlike in the “protect you and push you to be better” way not the emotional or loving way. He is a stable sturdy reliable presence for the young Saiyans especially after the Cell saga.
Vegeta and Goku are almost like brothers at this point, and I think one thing people don’t talk about is that Goku views their relationship the exact same way as Vegeta. The only reason Vegeta wasn’t killed on earth is because Goku wanted to get stronger to fight him again someday. They are each other’s balance. Both of them lost their people and culture😮 and race, they are alone in the galaxy. Vegeta, prince of their race, found what was left of his people and in his own way takes care of them, and for the first time in his life Goku has someone exactly like him to be around and to learn alongside.
Vegeta and Goku rival each other. Gohan has never challenged him directly, and so I think maybe Vegeta doesn’t view him as a rival and is instead somewhat proud and supportive of his strength. He likes to see strong Saiyans, but also they are HIS Saiyans, his group. And that he’s known Gohan since he was five years old, he’s basically watched him grow up so even tho he is NOT a father figure, he still feels that pride at seeing how far he’s come. Gohan does the same thing for Trunks in the alternate Future Timeline.
Neither of them would ever have made it to SSJ at all if they hadn’t been side by side pushing each other to be better.
Great video bro
W Vid 🔥Would you make a video like this about Gohan and Future Trunks ?
I love videos like this. Better from a mf that I fw in terms of seeing their personality and things like that. Shit cold and insightful
Here for the Anime Episode, much love Sage keep Going!
Piccolo has my favorite character development but I’m probably biased because piccolo if my favorite character
I need more sage dbz /anime content
19:06 liking the video for this moment
I agree but it's very disengenous to me to say goku has more development.i also get its not highlighted enough when Goku does something positive from a past mistake.Ex:How he gets certains words or phrases make other people feel
Stop playing with my Saiyan pride Frieza
W video
Great video
Vegeta literally demanded a space ship from Bulma's dad lol
good shit
22:00 Nah, it's Vegeta. No competition
This and the Goku vid both feel super natural, you’re more than cut out for this kind of content
What a w take man
Sage cooking!!
YEAH
PRE 300k 🙇🏾♂️‼️
This was a dope video analysis. Instantly clicked that subscribe button.
Thank you brovah 🫡
0:08 “these ppl”? Should I be offended?😂
omg, dude doubted himself for a whole sentence and now he gave up. SAGE!!!!
busted when heard the voice
he just wanted to prove himself to goku. dude could have left earth and traveled the universe but he stayed and started a family.
W vid
I was so young when I first sympathized with this character, who'd been introduced to us as such a terrible person, I attribute Vegeta to making me more empathetic. Because if you can empathize with someone who did the fucked up things he did in the Saiyan saga and his life prior, you can empathize with almost anyone
6:48 All those traits can also be possessed by antivillains
Having a noble trait and fighting a greater evil doesn’t just automatically make you an antihero
You also forgot when Vegeta and first form frieza were talking crap to each other. Vegeta was hyping up Krillin and Gohan to Frieza and Gohan actually started believing they could win
Can u do ATLA and basically zuko and azula whole family dynamic and their relationship dynamic as well cuz their a whole to unpack their as well
The quality of the videos don’t reflect the sub count, fair fucks mate 👏🏽👏🏽
As a fan of Vegeta and agree with a lot of what you said, it would be interesting to see Holla's reaction to this. Since he's a huge Vegeta hater I'd wonder if he's find some middle ground for the character from watching this.
I still think his characterization in GT is the best
Cool
Might as well do a Gohan analysis bro 🤷🏿♂️
can we please get a gohan character analysis?
he dropped it🥹
I wonder will there a video for Piccolo or Gohan