Can You Beat Sonic The Hedgehog As Sonic Without Moving Sonic?
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Sonic the hedgehog, the fastest runner in the west, east, south and any other compass directions you could possibly think of.
Famous for running around and moving fast, it's hard to imagine him standing still for a single moment.
But what if that were to change? What if he suddenly decided he weren't going to move an inch? The games would be completely impossible, right?
Well, in regular Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog 1, then yeah. But not if you're playing a later version (such as the mobile port) or mod that has Sonic & Tails mode and a certain orange fox by his side. By using a second controller, Tails can be moved by another player. If he flies above Sonic's head, he can pick him up and carry him for as long as he can stay in the air.
Many years ago, back in the "I made too many Sonic challenges" era, the very first challenge I did was the Sonic Cripple Challenge, where I attempted to beat various acts from these games without moving Sonic at all and carrying him everywhere as Tails. Today, I decided to revive this topic...
The rules are simple. Just reach the end as many acts as possible without once touching any buttons on the first player's controller, excluding the pause button if you really need to stop for any reason. This leaves all the work to Tails. Can any acts be beaten this way? Watch the video and find out...
This challenge was also attempted in Sonic The Hedgehog 3, see the video here: • Can You Beat Sonic The...
It was also tried in Sonic & Knuckles, or rather the Sonic & Knuckles half of S3&K, see that video here: • Can you Beat Sonic & K...
Tails: *does all the work, saving Sonic's life multiple times*
The game: SONIC GOT THROUGH ACT 1!
Poor tails
I was half expecting this to be a 5 second video with the word “NO” plastered on the screen.
And Robotnik from Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog shouting "No!" in the background, preferably when yelling at Scratch and Grounder.
The character in your pfp looks like a French politician.
@@paulo547 i gotta know this guys name
@@aagh8714 Jean castex
@@paulo547 now that you said it, it do look like him
Finally, a picture of Sonic without shoes that doesn't make me feel nauseous
That’s what his feet look like canonically
@@mrman2557 sonic characters literally have round blobs for feet, tikal and big are wearing sandals
*where do you have to be to find these? Pretty sus ngl*
@@mrman2557 in the movie you can see bits of his feet when his tennis are worn down.
WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS
STOP IT
Sonic is doing the over-the-edge animation because is is starting to suffer from atrophy from not using his legs, so whenever he stands, he is hurt and can barely stand.
So when is the romhack where sonic breaks his legs and tails has to push him through the game in a wheelchair
Well there IS a game where you break your legs by jumpimg, so we're halfway there
If only I knew how to make romhacks
@Donovan Starks that is not sonic breaking his legs
that is sonic losing control
Mario and Sonic at the Paralympic Games
I have a feeling wheelchaired Sonic could still somehow pass loop-de-loops, making more acts passable.
24:23 Even when doing absolutely nothing Sonic still finds new ways to reinvent the Tails Abuse wheel.
7:12 that wall is gone or at least partially removed in the mobile port, which makes you think that even christian whitehead hated this level, there is even an achievement that encourages you to use the secret path in marble garden 3
When the biggest obstacle to beating Sonic the Hedgehog is Sonic himself sabotaging the run.
You know, the killer irony is it should be much easier for Tails to lift Sonic in water.
In fact, entirely possible according to the laws of physics. As opposed to the totally impossible physics defying flying act he usually does.
I guess despite being better than Sonic, Tails still isn't a strong swimmer.
Good point, when you think about it his tails should be able to move him in water at least as well as in the air
in real life hedgehogs can actually swim what did you expect lol
Sonic is stuck in his balancing animation in Star Light because he is suffering from a glitch known as the "slope glitch". In this glitch, if you were to control Sonic again, would run in the last angle you landed on. So if you landed on a slope, he would run down it until he reaches the death pit.
i've actually had that glitch happen to me once in Sonic 3 Hydrocity Zone? it's also pretty easy to do with debug mode iirc
the first time I had it happen to me was in Ice Cap where I had sonic standing on an ice block and tails broke it. Pretty fun stuff
it's also why Sonic went into the ground shortly after
4:32 this entire 10 second sequence, perfectly uncommentated, is extremely, extremely good
the "FUCK" that covers half the screen was the perfect cherry on top
Closest shave ever
I cant stop laughing at the "Sonic is a fucker" part, like it just somehow, makes me laugh like crazy lol
Ikr
Hahaha
or me
I mean, that segment was an absolutely glorious cacophony of bad posistioning and gameplay mechanics. Sonic just so happened to be hugging the wall leading to the ceiling, and thanks to the momentum gained from the fall, it allowed him to lock to said ceiling as if he was in a loop, creating a situation where he ended up uncontrollably running all the way back to the button. That singular line just seals how unfortunate that situation was in a hilarious manner.
Tails: sonic hurry up eggman is destroying the world
Sonic: *becomes statue*
Tails: SONIC
Sonic: no
That happened at least once in AoSTH
Wow, Sonic! You are the fastest thing alive!
Fast asleep, that is.
24:20 Git You should Clip this and stick it in the "Random acts of Spite" Playlist.
"Death Egg zone act 2 in Sonic & Knuckles is the first level where Sonic can run on the ceiling"
Me, an intellectual: 24:24
But... Mushroom Hill has an easy setup for it. You just spin dash to the left. Heck, I think Sonic 3 has its fair share of chances if you insist on calling it a separate game. People really say it's Death Egg Zone? Why do people think that?
@@CinnaSwirls I kinda made that up, because that was the first thing that came to my mind, because of all the gravity shifting. But the point that there's a small setup for ceiling running in spring yard zone in Sonic 1 still stands
@@borkedluck Maybe, it seems like Sonic 3 physics. I should try to test it out if I can play it again.
@@borkedluck so the quotes are really you quoting yourself lol
@@nthgth yeah, but meanwhile I remembered that there is a certain area in Sonic CD (in collision chaos zone) where you can briefly run upside down
Surprised that he somehow got slope glitch in starlight zone
I'm not big into Sonic, but seeing that altered Sonic 1 ending made even me feel hyped.
Sonic doing the constant edge animation is probably due to you activating the ledge glitch by accident. The reason sonic went through the floor when he landed on the ramp is because the ledge glitch keeps Sonic's current state of the ledge he was last on, so he was at a 30 degree angle, so he kept going at a 30 degree angle through the floor, that is a side effect of the ledge glitch.
I hate how RUclips thinks every thing sonic related is the sonic movie and i hate the sonic movie
24:21 omg this is my favourite part, sonic you bastard
2:05 DID I JUST SEE EVERY RING GET COLLECTED!?
Yes you infact did
Yeah, it was satisfying to see him get all of those rings at once
Until he gets hit... lol
Me seeing title: well obviously no
Video: 47 minutes long
Me: ...OK you have my attention
I started laughing out loud when sonic fucking ran on the ceiling back to the switch
0:55 the mobile versions were decompiled a while back and unofficially ported to pc
you can also run an android emulator like bluestacks to play on pc and connect a controller
It would still be impossible though. To make Tails fly, player one has to hold up. Also, two players aren't compatible.
@@nd_4726 ah, didn't know that
Ey look it's Sonic Robo Blast 2-- I-I mean, Sonic Classic Heroes!
Is no one going to talk about the unused Sprite of sonic being burned to a crisp for some reason being used in 18:02 ?
And Tails became a glitchy mess in the same exact frame
To me it was Sonic getting scared shitless of that weird Sonic-bot running up to them out of nowhere
Also 19:41 and 34:38 XD
Sonic wins by doing absolutely nothing
True lol
Do you watch M80 Marc because that sentence you just said was and one of his video titles
It was probably more of a reference to the whole “Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing” trend, but whatever.
The mobile remakes do have the elemental shields, but the only way to play with them added is to use the hidden level select and use the newly added option to toggle them on.
The bad part is that level select is only in no save mode...
*FRICKIN' NO SAVE MODE!*
@Protector_Name really?! How do you do that?
All that's left is Sonic 2 now, but that sounds like a Pain.
Well, without Sonic Classic Heroes or with the mobile version of Sonic 2 (which btw, is avaliable for pc) it would be impossible! Tails can't fly at the Genesis version of Sonic 2
@@elisian0hplays47 I know, my entire childhood was sonic mega collection on gamecube.
@@elisian0hplays47 Even if Mobile Sonic 2 were used, it'd be impossible too, since you have to hold up then press jump to get into Tails' arms!
@@TKHedgeHog on the _what?_
@@smd89xx The Nintendo GameCube, Silly
Recently found your channel and been catching up with the Boss Analysis vids. Idk why, but they give me old game-tips vibes!
that certainly isnt a coincidence, this guy's been doing videos for more than a decade
@@philRacoindie True! Reminds me of when RUclips was relatively low on the bullshit scale.
@@tatertot64 indeed
At 4:32, one specific letter entered my mind: F.
Edit: 24:19 and 29:15 too.
Also at 39:56 that is called a slope glitch. Look it up for info because I'm too lazy to explain it.
Sonic running on the ceiling in spring yard: I'll run if i want to and break physics if i need to
slope glitch in starlight probably would have killed sonic in a normal playthrough
39:02 it was at this point, Sonic's pain medication wore off
I find it interesting that you were able to cycle to an unused Sonic sprite during Spring Yard and Starlight, I've literally never seen that happen
The grayscale death sprite? The one that would have probably been used for lava death?
18:06 that sonic sprite reminds me of the one that went unused
It did go unused! This is a glitch that happens for some reason in vanilla S3K when you fly sonic into a horizontal spring. I think for some reason the game tries to DMA way too much data and it can end up overflowing into other parts of VRAM, but in this case the glitch just displays random frames of sonic's animation routine. I did want to look more into this eventually..
@@Selicre i think that makes sense
Looks like sonic cd run
Boy do 2nd Zones really hate this challenge, uh?
List of levels in this challenge:
1:00 - Green Hill Zone Act 1 (Possible)
2:32 - Green Hill Zone Act 2 (Possible)
3:52 - Green Hill Zone Act 3 (Possible)
6:33 - Marble Zone Act 1 (Impossible)
10:13 - Marble Zone Act 2 (Impossible)
11:08 - Marble Zone Act 3 (Possible)
16:40 - Spring Yard Zone Act 1 (Possible)
19:37 - Spring Yard Zone Act 2 (Possible)
21:32 - Spring Yard Zone Act 3 (Possible)
26:08 - Labyrinth Zone Act 1 (Impossible)
30:10 - Labyrinth Zone Act 2 (Impossible)
32:06 - Labyrinth Zone Act 3 (Impossible)
33:02 - Starlight Zone Act 1 (Possible)
34:34 - Starlight Zone Act 2 (Possible)
36:54 - Starlight Zone Act 3 (Possible)
41:02 - Scrap Brain Zone Act 1 (Possible)
43:21 - Scrap Brain Zone Act 2 (Impossible)
44:32 - Scrap Brain Act 3/Labyrinth Zone Act 4 (Impossible)
45:52 - Final Zone (Possible)
He Be Like In Marble Zone 1 ‘We Are Actually Gonna Do It!’ ‘Then Goes To The Last Hurdle’ You Gotta Be Kidding Me Another Impossible One!?’
27:19 well according to dantes inferno a layer of hell is literally a giant freezing ocean that sinners beat each other in
20:14
Insert "PINGAS!" bumper sounds here.
Very interesting this must have been quite the challenge to pull off also I cant wait to see how you manage to play sonic two like this
The secret path in the wall are in all acts of marble zone.
Though they all share the same problem.
I don't believe the other two acts have them in the original release, I'm fairly certain they were only added in the Christian Whitehead remakes.
@@epicredhot5675 I was talking about sonic classic heroes.
@@epicredhot5675 if you look at the website called zone 0 the go to sonic 1 downloads, you can see the layouts had those secret passageway
I think sonic is doing his on edge animation constantly because tails is carrying him around so much hes not used to standing anymore
39:29 - Sonic lagged the game when going too fast and switched to random animations, Tails morphed into ncioS, the music was glitching, some SFX were muting channels... I'm surprised the game never crashed even though some important RAM addresses might have been hit by these bugs.
Some fecking skills again in this video and also some funny shit because of 'Sanic'.
whois: "I don't play games on mobile"
Bluestacks: "am I a joke to you?"
**insert comment about how far we've gone from the Tails abuse days**
I will wait the mania one.
Me using the spindash in the mobile port: hold my beer
24:22 *Its running time!* -sonic
Moving, at the speed of sound. Sonic the tick on the lifeblood of society!
Tainted forgotten gameplay
4:36 LOL Oh man...
39:01 You definitely triggered the Slope Glitch state sometime here. This should usually trigger whenever Sonic (or any other playable character) stands on a sprite based object as it's destroyed, though there have been less well understood causes as well. When a character is in this state, they will always walk at the angle of the last slope they touched, resetting whenever they're no longer "grounded" and picking a new slope angle when landing. It only resets upon death or full act transition, or when landing on top of another sprite-based object. If you ever find ways to trigger it consistantly, it could potentially save you a couple levels blocked by loops, though probably not routes blocked by objects.
Sonic 1 but Sonics afk:
"sonic, you truly are a tick on the life blood of society" that killed me lol
33:46 tails though sonic was cold after staying in water so he warmed him up
You can get past Marble zone act 1 by flying over the wall if you start at the higher point in the left.
sonic classic heroes edited the level design so the walls would go to the top of the stage, so that gameplay wise is out of the question.
Sonic really robbing tails from a whole different game.
the starlight zone is my favourite music in this game scrap brain was my second
Marble zone act 1 IS possible. Only on mobile tho
Tails does all the work.
Also tails: sonic is the real hero
I'm so happy I found this channel again.
Do you think this sort of challenge could work for knuckles chaotix? Only throwing the buddy to get around
For being just a glitch, 18:02 has a lot of attention to detail;
1. sonic is spun 360°
2. He realised he is at risk of injury, with a 4th wall breaking “oh s##t” expression
3. Sonic then crashes into the enemy chest-first
4. The entire thing is slowen down so we can see what actually happens, the true perspective has all of this happen nearly instantly
10:05 could you do a well-timed right-upwards flight starting under the oscillating block as it rises to get enough speed? Or is there something which makes that not work?
I had the same thought.
24:23 Ok i wasn't expecting that i hate when things like that happen.
F for your efforts and hopes on Scrap Brain Zone 2
0:52
There's Sonic 1 Decompilation, which let's you play the mobile port on PC. Even though its buggy, but still playable.
Problem is, two players aren't compatible in the decomp/mobile version. He would have to get Sonic to jump and press up to have Tails carry Sonic.
@@Gorilla-r4g
No, you can do it with one player. There is a Sonic and Tails mode, and I can use Tails to carry Sonic with one player.
@@BlucklesTheGlitchidna how?
Man you are talented please could you do sonic mania next
19:42 (Pause to see the unused death sprite)
Edit: 34:52 holy crap, tails became a glichy mess of sonic.
Btw... at 39:50 you glitched on a slope... i don't know why that happened but maybe its how you could clear a loop-a-loop ?
Starlight Zone: Ah, a self imposed challenge huh? Well, I'm gonna go a bit harder on you this time around, but I do like you so of course I'm not gonna be the pushover Green Hill must have been. Tough, but fair, and still fun, I aim to be the best Zone in the game no matter how you choose to play. I hope you're not too frustrated though. Take care of yourself.
Labyrinth Zone: How DARE you waste MY time on your HYPOTHETICAL CHALLENGE GARBAGE! You get NOTHING! In fact, ACT 3, you don't get to move ONE DAMN PIXEL. You make me SICK! LEAVE MY SIGHT, INSECT!
Was that your biggest font size yet?
Sonic: ok me afk 5 minutes
Tails: it's time to get that doggy
Can't wait for sonic 2 😄👌🏽
24:20 I can almost hear Tails yelling "Oh for crying out loud, Sonic!" Or was it you, Git?
I hate Spring Yard zone. The visuals are dull.
Marble Zone: Good Visuals, Terrible Level Design
Spring Yard Zone: Terrible Visuals, Good Level Design
So what I've gathered from this is you'd hate living in a bungalow =P
Define irony - gameplay of the Green Hill Zone here resembling the very first time I played Sonic 1.
It's a shame you can't turn off tails flying noise.
Also in the movile version the walls in Marble Zone have a hole and they aren't low cealings, so may be beatable in that version.
You are a legend
18:03 we finally get to see the black and white sprite for sonic in game (:
I'm sure someone else has said this but: "Anakin, I have the high ground"
I love the look of S3&K Sonic in Sonic 1
0:40 How sad, the video ends in less than 1 minute hahaha.
If im not mistaken cant you get tails in S1 on real hardware with a copy of sonic 2?
Using Sonic 2 on S&K gets you Knuckles in that game, but you can't access Sonic 1. Using the actual Sonic 1 just boots up Blue Sphere.
18:00 HhahJahHahhAa what the heck was that??? XD
34:49 Tails flies so fast that he starts to feel nauseous and proceeds to lose his skin and is left to nothing but organs and Sonic falls because he can't be held up by organs
39:01 I think this effect is caused by the "Zero gravity" glitch, which is named because if you walk off of a sheer precipice with the glitch active, Sonic will keep floating in the air at the same height as the ledge he was just standing on. It's kind of a result of Sonic being unable to change the "slope" he's standing at, which is what causes the effect at 39:57 where he lands on a slope and starts walking backwards into the floor, even though the curved slope should have set his angle back to the horizontal.
He stops doing it at 40:20 because he lands on one of the see-saws, which are an object rather than a piece of the pure level geometry. The zero-gravity glitch only applies to level geometry, but if sonic ever stands on an object (a spring, an item box, etc) the glitch is canceled, and he goes back to normal.
ruclips.net/video/p6GVyq_Ub-c/видео.html Here's a video of this glitch used to mess up the background in Flying Battery Zone. I will admit, I'm not entirely sure this is the reason, as I feel like taking damage should nullify the effect.
I never liked the labyrinth zone and scrap brain act 3. And after this video I don't like them even more.
I'm enjoying these Tails carrying Sonic challenges a lot. I hope there be some hack of Sonic Cd with Tails able to carry Sonic so the fun can be extended after Sonic 2. I know there are codes to play as Sonic and Tails in the Gameboy Advance games, but I don't remember if Tails is able to carry him in those
sonic broke his spine so now he needs to rely on tails to help him stop eggman
10:13
I did some testing, and you can beat it as Super Sonic and Super Tails due to Tail's speed being increased.
However Act 2 cannot be done, even if you are Super Because the switch is off screen and Tails can't go off screen and press it, and if you go next to the right side with flight space and press the switch with Tails you can't get sonic through because the switch will block Sonic and since he can't jump, he can't get passed.
Edit: You can't even beat it with cheating,
First, I tried to get the 2nd controller to control Knuckles
Second, had Knuckles jump on the switch
Third, I attempted to fly under to no avail even with Super and Hyper
also since 2P is currently Knuckles, you can't move Tails unless you are Tails, and the CPU is Sonic, and the A.I always jumps when you jump, so Sonic moves anyway.
i played this mod recently, and there is actually an invisible hole in the huge wall in marble zone 1, although its quite high, but tails can reach it
39:57 The app "sonic.exe" has stopped working do you want to close it ?
tails:no
And we thought the escort missions in GoldenEye were bad
TBOI tainted forgotten be like
5:39 ye player what kind of caretaker are you? XD