YouTube Is Losing To The Adblockers...
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at what appears to be RUclips and it's push on blocking ad blockers. This has prompted some of the top extensions to further their methods and put RUclips at the razor edge of detection. Will RUclips continue to funnel money to this endeavor and potentially violate the law internationally? Let's find out!
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Are you an adblocker
@@Fungfettihar
No
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Yes
I appreciate how well RUclips is doing to keep community together fighting against them.
- Removed Dislike number, community made add-on showing Dislike again
- Forcing scummy ads, community made add-on to fix that
the dislikes on youtube are so useless in my eyes anyways. most videos will naturally get more likes than dislikes unless the video is obviously bullshit or its gets widespread negative attention.
@@gorillamasterofgaming5525 Not the point. We just don't like being told what to do.
@@gorillamasterofgaming5525 you're in the minority if you think dislike numbers are useless.
@@gorillamasterofgaming5525 Dislikes keep you from going to a shady "how to" video that doesn't actually help you at best and tries to get you to install viruses onto your computer at worst.
The community made an add on that shows the dislike number again?? What’s it called?
One rule of the internet: you tell it what to do and it’ll do the exact opposite. RUclips had it coming.
I don’t mind it. It’s just the weird shady Ad’s on the homepages now.
So RUclips is a cat?
if you watch youtube in incognito mode the fear mongering tab dont appear at all
meaning it only target people that signed in and if you dont sign in what they gonna do absolutely nothing
so if you watch youtube but never comment this can be the result
but the problem you get more garbage content in alien language cause their algorithm is as dumb as the whole corporation
Which is sad especially when it comes to CP
So like a 5 year old
If RUclips is going to be so adamant that their Terms of Service require people to view ads by not having an adblocker, then they should be made liable for if any of their users are scammed due to the ads they were forced to see.
tons of ads are malicious, if you care about your security in any way you need an adblocker
And they should actually UPDATE their TOS. There's nothing there about Adblockers; nothing at all.
Which makes sense being they haven't updated it since January of 2022.
People should also be able to charge youtube for data usage
Also they should pay back the billions of illegally collected ad revenue from false flag demonetizations. I will not respect RUclips TOS as long as RUclips themselves don't respect their own TOS.
@@Unidentified_Entity6well my bro i Just the right tools to do that aka Brave Browser 101 lmao
As a long time Adblock enthusiast I have to say I did not even know that there was such a thing as scam ads on youtube... God bless the AdBlocker
I think it is country specific, in my country, I only get ads from legitimate companies
Yeah I've been using ad blockers for a while and whenever I see an ad it literally takes me a back
i havent seen any ads in 10 years this whole situation showed me i should 100% always use adblockers the ads youtube are running now are insane its like begging to get scammed or a virus on your pc
theres ads on youtube now??
My fear is the war between adblockers and RUclips will turn into a game of "how invasive is this company willing to become." It's an armsrace, and once one site finds out how far they can go it's a matter of time before all of them copy it.
That said, ads are dumb and RUclips smells bad.
It’s already against the law in the EU, because of the invasion of privacy. The EU is not afraid of taking action like it did with Apple
@@christoferpezetttTake your meds.
Many have tried and failed in the decade plus of adblockers existing. Its a war of attrition and the brave souls that run these extensions are driven with purpose and a burning hatred of ads and profit driven sites just cannot match that energy.
@@caleb7674 This is true! I'm glad people are still running these extensions, but times are changing and so is the tech. The future of warfare has dawned. I just don't want companies to get any more invasive with their stuff than they already are, it's concerning what we're willing to accept and allow.
That's the issue too, companies try to push the bar slowly to see how much they can do before people complain. RUclips pushed too far this time, I think they're going to come up with something else equally terrible that nobody will talk about.
I mean just look at these youtuber, feeling like they winning.
Dude we not winning in any way just because adblock perform better. RUclips might starting to charge more percentage(Maybe from Content Creator ? Maybe the ADS now going crazier) which is ideal and acceptable to cover loses.
I always thought how the f many companies just dont see the thing. Then i understand, manipulate people in internet are WAY WAY easier specially when Profits/Incentive are said.
If you use iPhone, then you know that Apple Music cost 5$ a month which is whatever. Then you compare RUclips Premium which you can use on Apple + Android and watching Videos with no ads etc. By comparison, its not even hold a candle specially the cross platform part.
Man.. something is bound to happen. I fear if Google follow those Subscription Snakeoil marketing, then probably something like Steam also follow the suit.
Its more than worrying for me. NGL.
I love how Gabe Newells quote "piracy is a service issue" keeps being relevant for every single one of these discussions where inflexible supply can't meet with the actual demand.
yeat they ruined regional pricing and game recommended pricing in general which increased the count of people turning to piracy, the piracy subreddits member influx proves my point
Agree for the most part, but for content the supply/demand metric really breaks down. Piracy is just another form of market balance, a less savoury one to be sure, but a balance none-the-less. No-one likes scalpers for instance, but they invest their own money into buying stock which they then sell in an attempt to profit from the market shortage with higher prices which normalizes the market to the true equilibrium price. If they're weren't scalpers at all, the shortage would just be hard; instead of being able to buy some at MSRP, some at 10% higher, some at 20% higher, etc. and then paying what price you are willing to at the ACTUAL equilibrium price, you just couldn't buy them at all. That may sound better since 'eventually' everyone can buy one at MSRP, but that ignores time-cost. Even with scalpers anyone who wants to wait it out can, scalpers just let people who would rather spend more to have it now be able to do so by keeping items stocked in an otherwise dry-supply.
Ad blocking / piracy though isn't really measurable in terms of supply or demand. Its the same general concept sure, but it's still very different in meaningful ways.
For instance, why does youtube have a 'monopoly'? Simple, creators would rather bitch and moan then take 10 minutes and setup content mirroring to other platforms. Its free, it takes no work, and it supports alternates, yet they don't do it. The obvious marginal benefit is to their viewers, but the obvious marginal cost is to them so even though the total benefit to them still exceeds the total cost to them, its easier to stay lazy and just get your viewers riled up against youtube. Sure you COULD give your viewers the power to stop relying on yiutube as much, but its easier for YOU to just keep youtube as the devil and pretend to lead the crusade against them. (cough cough rossman cough cough) It has nothing really to do with any meaningful measure of 'supply' or 'demand', it's just general market reactions & normalization which always happens in lieu of EXTREMELY exigent circumstances or government intervention.
@@GM-fw3wm maybe gaben just wanted to prove his point lol
Since when are people not just using brave browser?
Service issue my ass. Why pay for things that you can get for free
Considering RUclips is allowing ads that sponsor Temu, I will gladly use an adblocker if it means giving them less money
Bro i bought 3 wifes from china with trimmed bushes ft only 1 std for 39.99 from temu give um a little credit ok
@@jeffreypeters5578 yes officer, this comment right here
Annoying music smh 💀
@@jeffreypeters5578 yeah this is satire
@@NetBattler Xi Jinping does not approve this message.Biden family is in trouble now
Adblocking is not just for convenience, it's also for safety.
If RUclips think I'm uninstalling my AdBlockers, they're dreaming. not only is it inconvenient, it's dangerous to not have an AdBlock nowadays. And the AdBlock I had on my browser didn't even work for RUclips, it was just there to stop the popup ads and trackers. I was still getting RUclips ads but when they rolled out their adblocker blockers it targeted me anyway. Technically RUclips struck first in this war and forced me to install better AdBlocks just to be able to still use the site. They 100% brought this upon themselves!
Bro it's not some kind of war 😂😂😂😂
which one are you using now? they also disabled mine.
@@ramilyusupov1573 Ublock Origin is fine, but I change browser if you are using Chrome. Since it's Google owned you need another one. Brave Browser works well out of the box if you activate the shield (no need for AdBlocker). LibreWolf (Firefox based) with Ublock Origin also works well.
@@MrBark1969 Its called creative speach...
@@ramilyusupov1573 Ublock Origin works
Honestly, there needs to be a class action against RUclips for running scam ads.
Damn right. Best part is the fact it's the fault of the people at the top. Those scum of the earth
I've seen so many it's crazy, I think the Mr beast ones are especially wrong as young kids are more likely to fall for it as its him on yt
Yes they need to be sued for extremely poor quality control in their own ad space. Fine them at least $1M for every 1 scam ad displayed, and it would be very effective (as there are millions of scam ads displayed every day)
@@dukewild5071in india its more than anywhere else already due to low employment many scammers present and scammy ads are too much due to which i rooted and using magisk revanced as well as adaway root mode no ads in any app or site and great performance
@@Prplex. the fact that dude is getting ai scam ads of himself on *his own videos* is insane to me
Using adblock becomes mandatory for me when I'm looking at tutorials, trying to learn something. I was using a machine at my school that did not have ad block the other day and the site served me an ad (the same one too) 8 TIMES when I was skipping around the video to find the relevant section. It broke my train of thought and aggravated me to the point that looking at the video was pointless. I don't mind when ads are reasonable but from personal experience they very often are not.
newpipe, from f-droid .. save the tutorial
This right here. . . For example, if I watch twitch without an ad blocker, it's around 2-3 mins of ads for 10-20 mins of watching. . . How about no? I wouldn't mind every couple of hours, anything more than that is a hard pass for me.
Yeah.... An ad every 3-5 mins is WAY too excessive.
I'm getting ads every 4 minutes on the dot in my web browser. I think I'm part of some test. It's just rediculous. Some are 1-2 minutes long! I installed an auto skipper for yt. I'm not reaching over to press skip every 4 freaking minutes!
I would probably watch ads if they didn't have an anime girl saying shit like " Don't worry, I won't hesitate to kill you" or random models with their stuff hanging out. It's like RUclips is TRYING to turn me into a horny incel and I fucking hate it.
I really have to thank the RUclips dev team for pushing for adblocker advancements even further in the past month or so compared to the last three years. Just, thank you for your service youtube.
lol $22/mo to go ad free on one site, google must be on drugs, $5 maybe, but still not paying that until it blocks ads internetwide, kinda defeats the reason i use it to begin with, when I build $4400 on a PC, I want to protect my investment
resistance is assistance.
@@nightmarerex2035 1000% no cap
When I heard about RUclips's anti-adblock campaign, I immediately knew they were going to lose this fight, they were ALWAYS going to lose this fight.
boooo
Not only that they *NO* expectations on this on the verge they did more worse than they have ever did of removing dislikes, Absolute losers.
@@christoferpezetttleast annoying bot on RUclips:
@@christoferpezettt yeah, _suure_
@@christoferpezettt that's what bot going to say and I'm not your lil bro,bro.
Back in the early days when RUclips had ad banners, it was okay. But the current state of their ad setup is appalling. It's only ad video clips that interrupt content at inconvenient places. The ads are engineered to sound as loud as possible, which makes them really obnoxious. Also on other web sites, we used to see small banners. But now it evolved to active content that jumps at you at an accidental mouse-over. And there's the malicious ad content, out there. I'm protecting myself against all this. Unless the ad business comes so its senses and stops being so obnoxious, I'll keep on doing that. Premium is also not an option. If I'd get premium, I feel like I'm implicitly approving of RUclips's content policies, the state of their GUI, the disappearing dislike numbers and the way they handle controversial topics, speech and even individual words.
RUclips still uses ad banners. I see them every time on the main page when I load the site in incognito mode
Ngl I missed it when yt had no ads at all.
Exactly, especially on that premium point. I want to support creators but I don't want to support RUclips itself after all the shady shit over the years.
Use adblockers and donate directly to creators
Honestly that applies to almost every website back in the late 90s to mid 00's. Most websites were funded with banner ads, and we were cool with it. Sometimes the product was relevant and we bought it. Other times, it wasn't and we ignored it. But then at some point, not only did the vigilance over what ads were being served but all of a sudden we got the quasi-malware browser hijacks, unrequested new tabs, pop-up windows, bandwidth-hogging AV ads, malicious cookies etc etc. The websites seemed to have no control over what was being included in advertisements, from the content itself to the malicious scripts embedded in seemingly innocent ones.
So of course we ended up feeling obliged to run adblockers, websites failed due to advertiser withdrawal. Now we are seeing the same thing happen just within apps instead of websites.
It doesn't matter how much money RUclips puts into an anti-adblock, someone will always create a means to get around it.
Exactly. I mean look at passwords and whatnot. We went from "1234abcd" to "12 characters long and must have #,1, A, b". Beaten over the head about phishing scam's, etc. Because no matter how sophisticated your security system is, no matter how careful you are, there will ALWAYS be that dingbat stealing your information. The problem is, they don't have to. We've become so complacent and gullible, we'd GLADLY hand that information over. Because the crooks no longer disguise themselves. They ARE the corperations.
It's no different from trying to prevent piracy.
@@james_scotland Exactly this. Piracy is eternal, have these companies learned nothing?? They cannot win this fight
@@paulrayner6744 I mean they did won with denuvo, cuz for some reason that to this day 2023, only 3 peeps know how to get around denuvo but one is a confirmed weirdo, other only pirates fifa games and idk what was the problem with the other one, but I don't get why they don't share the secret to the public (Or crack most games)
@@paulrayner6744make a better product than the pirates can provide - gabe
My personal problem with RUclips ads is the same as with those on TV. I don't really care for the products or scams promoted and just go and do other stuff during the ad break it gives me. What I absolutely hate and will forever be pissed about is the fact that video ads, whereever and whenever they are used, are so much louder than the videos or shows you watch. They should be happy I'm letting them subtly influence my brain while I'm trying to sleep, but I always get woken up and end up pissed at said ad. So pissed, I make a point of looking for other brands if I ever need a product they promote. I have a damn list of brands and products I refuse to use simply because the ads are too loud or too obnoxious to let me sleep through them.
Actually no, my personal problem is the fact that RUclips Ads ISN'T like TV ads.
It's not just RUclips but RUclips is the worst offender. All the double standards of punishing normal content creators but letting malicious or scam ads reign free, the term "unalive" even having to exist unironically...
No, but the worst is they listen in through your phone. Everyone deny it, but it's true they are spying on what you're saying.
One day I was thinking about getting a new watch. Nothing crazy, just a Titus, something that isn't an Apple Watch or a G-Shock. Never looked up a watch on my phone or computer, and after I said it a few times out loud in conversations I'm suddenly getting ads for watches that I normally don't. Okay, that's fine, watches being luxury products, seeing ads here is normal(ish).
Second contender was way worse. I have a superior at work who does Feng Shui shit on the side. I've never been interested or cared about these as I see them as superstition and never even look up anything pseudo-science ever. Casually mentioning this fact in conversations has once again make RUclips show me ads about seeing destiny and Feng Shui and shit, which isn't an ads from the regular roster for sure.
That's when I knew they absolutely listen in on you, and my ad blocker on my computer is never gonna be turned off. If I go to a website that forces me to turn it off or it won't show that content? Too bad, I ain't reading that.
Yeah, that 10 hour video of relaxing thunderstorm sounds experience just wouldn't be complete without at least 100 snake oil salesman plugging their products while you sleep. Come rain sleet or hail, nothing stops the marketer in his quest for money.
I record my shows, when I get to a commercial......fast forward.
A story I posted on another video about this: I got a smart TV for my wife recently and I overheard her watching videos in the other room about some weird "natural" diet pill medicine the other day. Thought it was weird of her to be watching that, until I walked in ten minutes later and it turns out she just fell asleep watching RUclips on the TV and there was an HOUR LONG AD of this weird quack medicine playing. The absolute greed of YT to not only punish adblockers, and allow weird and potentially harmful shit to be shown in ads, but to make them an hour long, is just nuts lmao.
Yeah I've woken up to some weird shit. From sermons, to seminars. The xbox youtube app is just sad.
@@sunnyinnv ever gotten said long ads that are unskippable? i have in the past XD
i quickly got an Ad-blocker soon after that safe to say
only stupidly long advertisement runtime i'll ever accept is when they had the entire lego movie as an ad lmao
RUclips detecting Ad-blockers is also illegal in the EU. So when that thing get's underway, RUclips will likely lose that battle too.
EU, always being based
Government lobbyists will have their field day. When you have so much money to spend on laws, every law is corruptible.
@@niavellir7408Based when they decide to be, which isn't often
@@AManChoosesASlaveObeys RUclips doesn't have much money to spend in lobbying EU Lawmakers and Parlament.
If they had, they wouldn't tollerate scummy ads on their platvorm and wouldn't have to fight adblockers.
@@niavellir7408i wouldn't say always... They literally in process of killing end to end encryption and killing browser questioning of website security certificates
Another thing that makes people not willing to throw money at RUclips for things like Premium is their history. They regularly screw over creators, ignore valid criticism, throw money and protect some of the worst creators, allow fraudulent DMCA abuse constantly and generally shows no care for their userbase. It is hard to sympathize with RUclips's plight. People are more willing to support something if they feel appreciated in some way and feel their voice is heard and RUclips doesn't really do that.
People have egged on Steam for years, but their gripes pale in comparison to Google. Steam is a company that wants to make money, and all they really have is the gaming market.
Google is a company that wants to make a LOT of money, so do there shareholders, and they have claimed giant swathes of markets and touch the entire internet at any given moment.
One of them earned trust and a base and they treat their users well while making massive money.
The other took the internet by force and dominance, and they believe that goodwill is less important than dominating people into doing what they want for money. Because here we aren't the true customers.
I would have been fine paying for a subscription, if RUclips hadn't been protecting criminals on their site
I'm one of the people who had a subscription (ads drive me mad and I watch RUclips a lot on the tv) and cancelled it because of RUclips's horrible response to what happened to Jacksfilms. It was the final straw for me.
@@EverlastingRain55 Then why are you still on the site supporting the creators that bolster it? If as you say it was such a moral stance, why do you stand in the same building and continue to support it by enabling creators to remain viable on it, which does more to help YT/ABC than one sub does. (btw, I do have a subscription... and frankly I'm just numb to the retardation of politics which seems to be the reason for many things)
Can't wait till the entire thing shifts and they reallly start limiting videos or requiring some payment to even watch a video. People are acting like this nonsense won't blow their face off as well. Have you really thought about what it would mean if YT snapped its' site closed to most who refuse or can't pay, or just took it down.
Do you REALLY want what happened on reddit to happen here? Reddit shut down because power tripping mods got asshurt about api changes on a platform that was bleeding money due to bots. Imagine over a decade of videos .... Gone because no one could come to the table with a solution, and most the end users gave all the choice power to the advertisers because .... YT is free (while being idiots about who is actually paying the bills)
I used to watch ads, but they increased their frequency.
I used to pay for premium, but they hiked the prices up.
I tried, I really tried. Screw youtube, greedy corporate schmucks they'll never see another dollar from me again
with how forced and many ads youtube dishes out, at this point they want you to get an adblocker
adblock promotion i guess
True. I started using adblock as soon as I started getting double ads and unskippable ads. And worst of all ads were never as frequent as they are now.
fr, im completely fine with watching ads because youtube is free and it pays content creators and the site to watch ads but when theres so so so many ads and so many scam ads its impossible not to, i think they should try to find an amount of ads that people will be okay with, not by increasing them more and more and more
@@bloody5081same I just couldn’t take it anymore.
I’ve gotten 30sec unskippable ads before, Idk how I’ve got them but it has happened.
RUclips has burned away all their good faith with years of disrespect.
They deserve to be hit like this. I hope people can cancel their premium subscriptions and donate to adblockers instead.
Adblockers provide a way better service and are a lot cheaper too.
True, I would sooner pay double the amount of RUclips Premium for an adblocker than give RUclips a rusted penny. And it's all thanks to RUclips's years of disrespect, rampant censorship and hypocrisy.
I only have premium because I used to work outdoors and listened on my phone. Suppose I still do but maybe it's time to look into some alternatives.
@@oldestcharmget a mp3/4 player, that’s what I have. Mine can play and listen to mp3’s and mp4’s. I used to have premium to listen to my music at night, but now I have a device that lasts 2-3 days of battery life listening to music lol
people that even pay for a youtube subscription are part of the real problem.
One thing to specify is that advertisers are actually fine with adblockers. It's *Google* that's fighting this war, and both adblock users and advertisers are yelling at them for this. Advertisers like adblockers being there because it filters out all of the people who would have never clicked on the ad in the first place, making the ad more targeted than it would be otherwise. what google is doing is effectively making advertisers pay more to have their ads ignored.
This right here. I did an internship at an advertising firm and one of their primary metrics for determining campaign performance is clickthrough rate. People that bother to use adblock are people more likely to choose their purchases through word of mouth and reviews anyways rather than clicking on an ad. By avoiding serving ads to this noninteractive demographic, advertisers are more likely to have their ads served to relevant prospective customers and improves clickthrough rate. It also improves price to conversion ratio (amount of money spent on advertisement to customers gained).
There are a ton of reason it's bad, this is just one of them.
This is the problem with public companies. The company must chase infinite profits that simply don't exist in reality.
Woosh
Is this true that advertisers actually don't mind ad blockers? The way you put it makes sense to me, I'd actually like to know how true this is because if so then the only one not on the same page is Alphabet Inc.
@Darklovefly The thing is, youtube has never been profitable. They could gey away with that for the time being by having constant user growth. Now, they have to find a way to make some sort of profit and theyre scrounging the users as much as they can.
What I hate most is they give you the option to skip the ads in 5 seconds, but then the ad finishes in 4.9 seconds forcing you onto the 2nd ad with a skip option or you have to wait out the timer.
AND if you don't press skip they get comfortable in showing you double ads, except you literarlly CANNOT press skip.
What I hate most is when the AD is 30 minutes to an hour long. Sometimes I'll put on a video just to listen to while I'm cleaning my house or something, and the short ADs don't bother me, but when enough time has passed I have to stop everything I'm doing and return to my computer to skip the dang thing.
My favorite part of this whole fight is the giant uptick in adblockers being installed because RUclips doesn't realize that most people didn't even know you could block ads before this.
Especially now people are flocking to actually good adblockers like ublock
Alternatively Brave browser can be used with built-in ad blockers.
@@ctomczyksame with opera gx which is what I personally use (along with a sideloaded app of youtube on ios to give me access to premium features for free which is what I’m currently typing on)
@@ctomczyk But it doesn't filter as many as ublock. Opera also has a built in blocker, but I use Opera with Ublock.
@@jal051 Possible. However, I found that Brave is pretty good for a simple browsing.
The ironic thing is that the people that doesn't even know about the existence of ad blockers, now are aware about them! A couple of friends were asking me how to install ad blockers and a coworker asked me to install it for her so she could listen to music without interruption. Now that's what I call a backfire!
that's exactly what people predicted when youtube started blocking adblocker.
as well as the arms race that ultimately will just hurt youtube.
i just don't get how random people on the internet can predict that, but not youtubes management...
yea, it backfire hard.. the "not allowed to watch videos" block was great as well.. people got curious on what other browsers was around when it popped up..
It made me start and use a sussy browser with bitcoin features (that i dont use or care for) ..
which one do you use? help a brother out
@@markokaplic9328 Currently, uBlock is the best one to use after the changes. Make sure to Purge all caches in the uBlock settings regularly because YT keeps patching all the versions.
Yeah, my brother suddenly started talking about ad blockers out of nowhere, soon he will no longer want to use windows on his PC.
Ever since I started using an Adblocker in the early 2010s, viruses haven't been an issue at all. I consider it essential to browse the internet and is the first extension to Firefox downloaded every time; there is no rationalizing dangerous content delivery.
I never have to worry about my parents being misled and exploited by internet advertisements with the combo of OS Linux Mint and Ublock in Firefox; there is no negotiating my parents online safety.
I directly support the content creators that I enjoy with a donation; so I will never apologize about utilizing an Adblocker, and will continue to do so regardless of what others think.
You are a HERO dear sir.
Their own search engine is promoting Ads mixed into the search results that offer counterfeit software to hack influential web developers and hijack software supply lines.
W.
ya.. that is a big reason.. the pop ups.. and you click too fast. and you're f..
we need the condom of the internet - adbllockers. i have 3
FIrefox + uBlock Origin + Noscript makes exploring the internet a MUCH better experience, like the old days in the 00s, and I never got any virus that I know of.
Fun fact! Despite what RUclips claims, there is NOTHING about ads nor adblock in their ToS. they couldn't even be bothered to update their own rules to fit.
What really gets me about this, and I know this isn't just me because I saw other people saying the same thing, is that if they weren't so incredibly aggressive about this, we might have been more willing to work with them. A simple single, "Hey, we know you don't like ads, but would you maybe consider please turning your adblocker off to help keep our site free?" pop up every session that doesn't actually interfere with our ability to use the site might make us more likely to turn them off. I've seen them on some websites and, as long as the site isn't shady, I'm often happy to oblige just because they asked and didn't demand it. It's like asking a child nicely to put their coat on vs. screaming at them to do it. Sure, there will still be holdouts, but some of them might do as you ask because you asked them nicely.
Another thing would be ad moderation. Get rid of the scams and the hate speech disguised as ads. Stop with the risque game ads that contain things that would get content creators demonetized on the spot. Don't put 30 second ads on 10 second videos. If the ad is longer than the video, then it doesn't need an ad.
But instead they went straight to screaming and demanding and throwing a tantrum because they didn't get their way, and that makes even some of the people that were on their side about the ads hesitant to defend them.
I agree. I would have been perfectly fine with the same ad structure that has been used by network television for decades: Ads at the beginning, end, and every ~10 minutes during a natural break in the content. At the time, we accepted it because we understood that the ads were paying for expensive sitcom actors, action TV shows, and star NFL players. But unlike, for example, shows like Friends or The X-Files, these YT vids cost next to nothing to make. So why do they need so much ad revenue?
This. And for browser, keep a banner ad showing the whole time. I don't mind that. And I've seen many others say they would be fine with banner ads instead of the loud and disruptive ones.
Not only that, but if you knew their profit margins, you would understand that even starting this war was unnecessary. Last year's youtube revenue was 30 billion dollars. They were raking in money even before they started this war. And now it's just pure greed. Bend down your customers and give me more money...
I had already been in a personal compromise with youtube ads. I blocked them on my pc browsers, where I focus on work and personal research, and I allowed them on my phone, where I listen to music and watch silly videos. They got so aggressive and rude with their insistence on ads across all platforms that I ended up deleting google chrome and started blocking ads on my phone too. Can't say I miss them either.
My issue is that the ads are too frequent, scams, or too lengthy. I watch longform RUclips videos on my TV and whenever I didn't skip the first 15 second ad, they would play an ad over 2 minutes long requiring me to get up and skip it or just sitting through whatever BS was being said. Yeah, it's not the end of the world but it's extremely annoying when it happens every 10-15 minutes. I got an ad that was over 3 hours long once. Not even kidding. It was a full Brazilian rewards show that was reuploaded as an ad. I live in the US and don't speak Portuguese or Spanish (I'm not sure which it was in). That's how broken and stupid their "targeted ads" can be.
A thought occured to me; There are significantly more people on the internet and especially RUclips that don't use adblockers, whether it be because of indifference, or because they don't how to install them, or are even completely unaware of their existence.
Google deciding to start this little crusade of theirs against adblockers has actually caused the adblockers themselves to become more widely known, and thus more people may become inclined to use them despite Google's attempts to get rid of them.
@devilselbow More like Cobra Effect: in an attempt to stamp out the problem they’ve accidentally made it worse
@@lemonmelon1883 They both describe the exact same thing.
That's me, I didn't mind skippable ads before, but then they started giving me multiple ads in a row that I can't even skip and are longer, no thanks.
Yes, very shortsighted move. Advertising your adversary is the most likely outcome.
People don't like to be pushed into a bad corner. And international security agencies (like the FBI) advice people to use adblockers for their own internet security.
Very True - I did not really care about Ad's on RUclips for a long time... I only started using Ad-Blockers because on other websites teh ad's were really intrusive!!! They still are...
I like to follow gaming and stuff.. And I play a lot of Genshin Impact, so I often look up details of new updates or even guides to puzzles and with No Adblocker... You will get to read about 3 lines of text before the screen is FILLED WITH F**KING POPUPS!!!!
On RUclips, I would simply wait the 5 seconds and skip the adverts... The only place it really annoyed me was Playing Adverts between songs on the playlist I have made of my Favourite Tunes... That messes with my mental health something terrible - music is my antidepressant - Interrupt it - I go CRAZY!
And it gets worse - Since RUclips started its war on Ad-Block, and they cannot put the blame on Creators here as its very obvious that in many cases it is RUclips themselves embedding the ads... On some videos from BIG COMPANIES... WhatCulture being one.... A 10 Minute Video can be interrupted by about 3 DOUBLE ADVERT BREAKS!
Now, I know its NOT added by WhatCulture as when they do have Ad's in their videos... They DELIBERATLY time them to come between Entries on their countdown lists... RUclips DOES NOT and will insert them WHEN A CERTAIN TIME HAS PASSED!!! Meaning you could be watching a Video of the 10 Most Underrated Horror Gems and be interested to hear how Jason Voorhees inspired - SHOP LIKE BILLIONAIRE!!!! - HALF WAY THROUGH A SCRIPTED PART, BLOODY ADVERTS!
But as RUclips pestered - I turned off my Adblock... I Use Opera GX.. and its Turned off... No Ad Block...
... Yet for the last week, NO ADVERTS! I have NOT signed up for RUclips Premium, I wont as its too expensive for too little and it does NOT benefit Content Creators... Yet ALL ADVERTS HAVE SUDDENLY STOPPED!!!
RUclips really has signed their own death warrant! This is a war they will never win!
The only reason I got an adblocker was because ads got insufferable. Before that I was fine with a few ads. Ad companies can take from that what they want.
Like literally 2 ads is too much, especially when they're unskippable. And they are so loud and obnoxious for no reason
which one do you use? help a brother out
@@markokaplic9328 Can't write it since the comment goes to the Shadow Realm. Muta says it at 3:47.
(He says the plural form of the second word, but it's the singular form. Just saying that to make it easier for you to find.)
And they just changed the skip button by making it smaller. Now if you miss it you press the full screen version to wAtCh tHe Ad 🙂🙃🙂🙃🙂
a ten minute youtube video i had 4 ad breaks.. that was my breaking point
as someone who uses an adblocker and doesn’t gaf about what RUclips says this is an absolute win
Data privacy is so incredibly important.. When a tech company can digitally recreate you without you ever interacting with them it gets scary
So like battle network. I love the modern internet.
Tech companies cannot recreate me due to my virulent racism. It's their kryptonite.
i have a browser i use thats based called librewolf that lets me track how many trackers have been blocked and its been 5,671 so far which is insane considering i only ever use like two or three websites
Yes the annoyance of seeing the ad is one thing ,the other is the amount of tracking that is linked to that. Adblock devs recommend Firefox because they block this better, have more rights etc. Chrome devs also just choose to not fix bugs that cause the browser to send this data before they can block it
@@GenghisD0ng chrome is essentially spyware at this point, but firefox is not only faster but blocks these trackers better and so far im happy in my decision
It does get very freaking creepy at how companies will try to thrust advertising in your face, especially stuff that is supposedly tailor made for your online experience. Like, I've had times where I searched for products online like a desk or appliances and, almost immediately, places like RUclips and Facebook will start shoving ads for desks right in my face. It's enough to drive a man paranoid.
If you speak around a microphone, either a phone or a computer, about a topic the same thing will happen. It's something Google has basically admitted to, when pressed on it they said they had services that were voice activated so the systems were always listening. So if you're talking about something and Google autocompletes with that, or ads start showing it without prior prompts, you know why!
@@TrickySpirit - Maybe I'll try an experiment. We'll start having lurid conversations about cocaine-and-witchcraft lesbian orgies, and see what kind of advertising that generates.
It gets even creepier when you search for those things on a disconnected machine and then start seeing ads for them on your personal computer.
@@angelaharris53if you had your phone in your pocket it does that
@@angelaharris53 I mean if you are signed into the same google/microsoft accounts on those devices then it kinda makes sense. Its not good, but its no worse than them just listening to your device
Maybe they should follow their own TOS when it comes to doxxing, fix the broken copy right system, vett their ads better and so much before worrying about ad blockers.
They need to get sued at this rate.
@@Featheryfaith7i’ve heard they have multiple times, sues should scale based on the amount of money they have imo so giant corporations actually fear being sued rather than it being an inconvenience, but this should also increase the severity of which a case would have to be of course
They can and might be soon. What YT is doing is illegal in the EU@@Featheryfaith7
@@iamrightoutsideyourwindowhello I might be in another lawsuit myself but it is involving an insurance. Im getting really tired of buisnesses.
When they ban sssnipetwolf I’ll stop using my adblocker
Imagine if RUclips put as much effort into filtering out obvious scam and obnoxious ads as they do into blocking adblock. It would be almost like they wouldn't be in the position they're in.
This whole ordeal has made me believe in adblockers even more. It is crazy how malocious ads are these days, probably contributing to a lot of suffering in the world. Junk food, sugar, gambling, and scams are pushed on everyone. Adblockers greatly benefits humanity.
Now this is a thought provoking take. Tell me, how much do ads contribute to the degradation of society? Rough estimate of course.
@@dineez627How are we supposed to come up with a number for that?
@@drakesomerset129 gather user personal data and analyze it. The more personal data they have of the user the more they can predict the user's behavior, lifestyle. Of course that would mean violating their privacy.
Exactly, this campaign shows customers that they COULD use adblockers instead. It's the "Streisand" effect all over again. Or in plain text, YT advertises the use of adblockers.
@@STCatchMeTRACjRo Alright bro you can go ahead and do that. Too much work for me though🤷♂️
I've always used ad blocking and I always wondered why there was a blank spot in youtube suddenly one day.
Turns out, that's where they decided to put ads in the actual video listings. Ridiculous and shameful.
man i was wondering the same, it's annoying af
so thats what that blank space is. ive always wondered what it was.
ublock with cosmetic filter get rid of these blank spaces
Classic RUclips.
Wait, that indent when first opening the home page?
I love how RUclips is trying to block ad blockers, but the ad blockers always find a workaround.
This is why I enjoy using the Brave browser with its powerful Ad Blocker. I can still watch video's through it. LOLOLOL
funny people are turning their adblock off for youtube, but using extensions to click every ad in the background lol
@@Lucas_Jeffrey that doesn't sound useful at all.
It's a treadmill problem for them and now with it backfiring and bringing adblockers to the spotlight, more people are contributing to adblockers
@@freedustin They are actually highly effective, but highly destructive to the website who paid RUclips to show the ad. I've considered one in the past, because it clicks the ads in the background before you ever see it, and is EXTREMELY effective at stopping ads this way, and is virtually impossible to detect without any impact to your computer.
However, it registers as "clicks" and then directly hurts the ad revenua of the comany that supplied the ad, and RUclips keeps the money the company paid them to promote the ad in the first place.
I just run a regular adblocker, and have for years, it is much less harmful to the sites but is also much easier to detect.
There's some people who have made videos on it and have gone in-depth better than I probably have, but that is the general gist of how they work.
3:40 "Or I wait the five seconds to skip the ad." When you can, sure. The last ad I ever saw on youtube before installing an adblocker was a *_Thirty Minute_* unskippable pre-roll on a five minute video. I'm sure it won't surprise you to learn I did NOT watch the whole thing. When I saw how long it was I left and installed an adblocker, then came back to watch the actual video. Installing an adblocker took less time than watching that ad. A lot less.
From what I understand, there was something of a stalemate between adblockers and ad companies. Ad companies knew that people using adblockers would be less likely to engage with their products anyways, so they didn't attempt to try and circumvent adblockers, while the adblockers themselves didn't attempt to make any advancements since there would be no need to. Google's attempt to force users to watch ads effectively ends that stalemate. On top of that, some people use an adblocker like ad nauseam, which doesn't just block ads, but also "clicks" ads, effectively making it seem like whichever site is hosting the ad is driving traffic to the product, regardless of how true it is.
Google has already shown that they're willing to go to extreme lengths when a fire isn't lit under them. Remember web environment integrity, which was basically DRM for the internet? They're trying to do it again only on a smaller scale with Android phones in an attempt to kill modified youtube apps. There's something called thermic demand or something similar to that, which basically describes a willingness to put up with changes up to a certain extent, but once that line gets crossed, the change is so drastic and fast that it can destroy a company. Think about unity and their attempt to charge per install. It was one change after all the others that effectively ruined their image, and may very well ruin their future as a company. Google has been getting DOJ threats, and has been firing employees left and right, so part of me thinks that they're attempting to cut the fat off of their business and squeeze every last dollar in an attempt to brace for an impact of some kind; possibly that the government no longer sees keeping them as powerful as they are to be a viable strategy.
thats cute n all... but you forgot one important thing : Google is waaaay too HUGE to fail.
thats all you gotta understand
@@heyjeySigmatell that to the Roman Empire
@@heyjeySigma there aint nothing in this universe "too huge" to fail
Based adnauseam users unite
@@heyjeySigma lets hope it collapses
Everyone is missing the detail that youtube is getting sued for lying to advertisers about views. So they're trying to force this to make themselves look better in court.
Need someone to sue youtube for actively telling people to turn off their security. Since that's what adblock is.
That part that really gets to me is that even if you pay for premium, they aren't going to suddenly stop tracking you, your data (which we could probably argue has been taken through dark patterns and uninformed consent) will still be getting farmed and aggregated and used in ways we do not yet understand. I agree that the service has a cost, and that we as users need to pay in some form, however obnoxious advertising, mass data farming and fingerprinting with sensitive data that we have no transparency on, probably being fed into even more unexplainable AI? Somehow I don't think the scales are balanced here.
I have heard from friends who do pay for premium that they STILL get ads. So it’s actually just stealing your money and not fully fulfilling its end of the agreement you pay for.
@@klutzmtg2310I thought it was some kind of heavy sponsorship but I still agree it can be absurd.
The scales haven't been balanced for a while and Alphabet Inc knows that, That's why they encourage people who are pro-establishment and discourage people who are anti-establishment.
@@klutzmtg2310If you pay for Premium, you do not get served RUclips ads, there is no ifs or buts.
If your friend still got ads, he maybe wasn't signed in with the same account he has Premium on.
I mean, RUclipsrs will still include sponsorships in their videos, but that's in the video itself, and not an ad that RUclips placed before / during the actual video.
@@klutzmtg2310I use premium and haven't gotten any ads aside from creator sponsorships in videos. Which are easy to skip past
im using an adblock rn. found my own lil work around.
kick rocks RUclips.
love you muta! keep up the good work
People tend to forget that it isn't just about blocking ads, which can and will make youtube unusable for most people because of the frequency and length of the ads. There are a whole host of problems behind youtube, that good adblockers help to circumvent. Let's give a breakdown:
1. The ads are rolled too frequently.
If you do not use an adblocker, it will show ads often and sometimes multiple times per video. Even in short videos of less than 15 minutes you can have 5 ads, totalling up to 2,5 minutes of ads for a short video. The amount of ads per watchtime is just ridiculous, including some of them being quite long.
2. The ads are not targeted at the right audience.
While not necessarily unethical, having the wrong kinds of ads for the viewer makes them completely useless. Someone would be perfectly fine watching an ad for a game, if they are gamers. Having ads for car insurance would be complete nonsense if you don't own a car. Mistargeted ads will cost the viewer viewtime and it will have no effect or a negative effect on the brand that is being marketed.
3. The ads are often for inappropriate or downright illegal subjects.
Having pornography ads, gambling ads, or money scams, clickbait schemes or anything from questionable to the downright illegal and harmful is marketed towards ALL of the youtube audience, including children's content. This isn't simply ethically wrong, it is also illegal, at least in Europe. There are reasonable arguments to be had about showing ads to generate revenue, but there are no reasonable arguments for illegal or inappropriate ads at all.
4. The RUclips website uses tracking and datacollection on a large scale.
While not specifically related to ads, most (good) adblocking addons actually block tracking as well. RUclips tracks all of their viewers data, including anything like how long they hover over something, where they stop scrolling, where they point their mouse and anything you can think of. While highly unethical to begin with, this is also against the law in Europe. It goes against all privacy concepts and does not provide value to the user. This is the main reason Google still allows certain adblockers, while trying to stop other ones, as the ones that block tracking (the better ones) are the ones they are really concerned with.
5. The RUclips website is a content creator's space and operates as a public platform.
I'm pretty sure Google (or Alphabet) does not agree with this, but at this point in time (and has been for a while) the RUclips platform operates largely as a community platform. It has been started as a 'free' service to upload content and share it with other people, that has slowly grown into the largest content creator platform on the internet, with only Twitch as a small competitor in the streaming market. It has grown this way, initally through technical innovation, but more so due to the extremely large and diverse quality content that the creators on their website offer.
Technical innovation has been absent from the website for many years, with the only reasonable innovations (like 360 degree video, 4k resolution and such) locked behind a paywall now. With the site operating as more or less a public platform, reliant for 99.9% on the quality and quantity of their content creators, it will probably be better off to become non-profit and as user friendly as possible, reducing the need for ads altogether. If anyone can remember, this site didn't even have ads for the longest of time, which is how it probably should be.
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To conlude:
It is not clear to me how anyone would expect someone to not use an adblocker while navigating youtube or on the internet as a whole. If not for convenience, at the very least for safety and privacy concerns. Official institutions, including even the FBI of all things, all recommend the use of an adblocker, precisely for this reason. I'm somewhat okay with the creators themselves doing some in-video stuff, as you can choose to not watch their content if you think it is inappropriate, but to have it forcibly emplaced in and around your favorite content is just wrong and there is no better solution for that than using an adblocker.
Addendum to your point 2: Untargeted ads *are* unethical towards the advertisers because YT/Google/Alphabet claims it's auctioning targeted ad slots. Auctioning ad slots for users with a steady zero click-through rate for years isn't very ethical towards the advertisers either because those are even less effective than untargeted slots, and a zero CTR is exactly what adblocker users have because they don't see ads so they never click them.
@@JerehmiaBoaz In many ways, YT is responsible for people using adblockers to begin with, because of their horrible ad issues. So yea, great point to add.
@@pinobluevogel6458 It doesn't really matter here that YT is responsible for people using adblockers because even if they aren't, they're auctioning ad slots to advertisers while they're aware that those ads won't be viewed because they're serving them to users which they know are using adblockers. Not only is this unethical towards the advertisers, it might be illegal as well and I suspect this legal aspect is a major reason for their anti-adblocker campaign (advertisers might be threatening YT with another adpocalypse). Edit: besides forcing people to view ads they clearly don't want to see, another option would be to not show them ads and limit their service (no high resolutions for instance) or even ban them. The fact that YT is only flirting with this but doesn't ban or lowres every adblocker user means that the time those users spend on the YT site still has value for the company (because it's a goldmine for user profiling)
@@JerehmiaBoaz This last point is exactly why it would be perfectly fine if there wouldn't be any ads to begin with. The reason youtube has been a free site isn't just because it started out this way and its viewers expect it to, the datamining and personal information they get out of it is insanely valuable on its own. Hence their reluctant acceptance of certain adblockers and the war on others, that block tracking as well.
meanwhile in the "free country" they are free to invade my privacy by tracking my every move? so much for a free country. what about my freedom? it looks like someone just bought it.
It's not about paying for the service it's about not letting big tech just do whatever they want.
Happy to see someone else say it! This is a battle against the domination that online services are desperate to achieve
@@dukewild5071 Yes... 'Walk into business complex, walk upto sign & violate rules. get shocked pikachu face when said complex goes away & the impacts all over the entire country because said complex was extensively relied on.'
The age of VC fund mentality going away is a painful reminder.... and oddly enough it's the end users whom haven't learned the lesson yet.
I'd gladly pay if the price is reasonable. Like I'm not going to spend more than $5 on something like this. It would be different if I was watching legit movies and tv shows. I'm already paying out the arse for internet service as it is.
@@FallenAngelHirokoRUclips seems to think their premium shows or wtv tf they have on their provide the same entertainment value to me as Disney plus or Netflix😂
@@dukewild5071not just online, corporations in general
Imagine watching television and the station you watch tells you that you’re not allowed to mute the volume or change the channel during commercial breaks. Or if it were mandatory for you to actually watch all the previews at the movie theater. Or listening to a radio station that won’t let you change the station during ad breaks.
Your comment captures the situation perfectly
Next thing you know, after the ad plays, they'll give you a quiz that you have to do before you can continue watching whatever it is you were watching.
Isn't there a black mirror episode like that lol
If you BUY videos on CDs, you are forced to watch intros that tell you how bad you are if you would pirate that movie. Remember that: pirated movies lack that part, but YOU, a legitimate buyer are threatened with punishment for pirating a movie.
That is how crazy the systems are working right now. And for decades already.
Quoted from an article in Extreme Tech in 2016 "a recent Samsung Smart TV update now requires that consumers view advertising if they want to use the device's hardware"
If I remember correctly, the television had a camera built in that watched you to make sure you were actively watching the advertisements, if you weren't then it would shut off the tv set or something like that.
I use ad block on YT as a literal safeguard from scams.
Also while accessing YT on my phone for the last 10 years there were zero occasions I bought a product or service that was advertised to me. On the contrary - easiest way to get on my consumption black list is by popping up mid video, while I am watching something on YT.
Isn't it the FBI or CIA or something that actually recommends the use of ad blockers? This was always going to be a battle RUclips couldn't win, in one way or another. Laws and regulations were always going to be a problem, and failing that the people that make ad blockers are going to work over time to get around RUclips's BS. As usual their arrogance got the better of them.
Its a tactic so youtube have a reason to charge you more. And in the end of the road, when you look back its you that feeling so entitled.
Im not even kidding, i feel like this is youtube tactic.
All of them raccomend the use of adblockers and for their agents is mandatory.
Big tech is from the CIA and they spy on everyone.
A part of me really hope that RUclips fight against Ad-blockers and the like will go so far get the federal government and the FBI will be force to take action.
Yeah, the FBI endorses ad blockers, they consider it an essential part of online safety.
I’ve said it once and I will say it again, maybe if RUclips didn’t bombard its users with incredulous amounts of intrusive ads, this wouldn’t have ever happened for them.
But they won't make any money, and we know how biased RUclips is towards bigger content creators.
But then RUclips would only make $5-6 billion a year instead of 7 😢
Exactly. I was fine with the ads when they were at the beginning of the video. I was OK when they started with the little banner ads in the middle of the video even because it didn't really interrupt the flow. But as soon as it was multiple ads at random points in videos that were unskippable I was done with watching them.
Where did you get the statistic that youtube is at all profitable?@@GriffinatorOriginal
@@Mosz Google. Overall RUclips has 30 billion in revenue and 7 is profit. By the end of the year it’s expected to grow to 33 billion.
The reality is that there must be enough ad watchers to negate the impact of ad blockers.
Google needs to look at developing a better system to deliver ads, WITHOUT BOILING THE PISS OF PEOPLE by being intrusive or irritating.
The most annoying adds are either shit I ain't having no chance of buying or something I already own. Like Google for fuck sake you steal all my data atleast use it.
well according to the stats most people don't even use an ad blocker in the first place 😂
@@prpltMy point exactly, so the impact has got to be minimal and Google are only making it worse.
@@mryellow6918Yep, mofos should ask you the ads you want to see. If you want see deals regarding your current interests or other things.
Most users of this platform can't afford the crappy perfumes, holidays or other crap spoon fed to them.
Why dont you provide a solution for them reggie?
I wouldn't mind all the ads nearly as much if they were actually moderated.
Absolutely cannot stand having blatant scams, hate speech, and insanely sexual imagery (often of copyrighted and underage characters) constantly shoved in my face.
Family members who didn't even know adblockers existed before RUclips's campaign against them have downloaded them now because RUclips went out of their way to tell everyone about it. Incredibly stupid in so many ways, great work RUclips!
The fact that they listen in on your phone about your daily conversation and show you ads based on that is extremely invasive and my ad blocker is most definitely not coming off anytime soon.
My big support for adblockers is not just the blatant scams, but when targeted ads are turned off, and your account is "over 18" (as mine and most people's are), the raw amount of hentai dating simulators where the advertisements are just about stripper porn level content make me feel completely unsafe to show any video, or even have RUclips playing in the backround with others present, as I will never know when my minecraft lets play will be interrupted by some thick anime girl shaking her spandex covered ass infront of people who will be offended or concerned. I unfortunately don't have an Adblocker, as RUclips is cracking down on them, and I would eat my neighbor's dog alive infront of her kids than give money to RUclips or Google for premium.
Ublock origin is a pretty good adblocker for this. As long as you update it every week or so, no ads. Not one. Not only that, I can modify the filter lists to block youtube shorts (cancer) as well.
i'm under and get the same ads.
RUclips is losing to adblockers? Way to go guys! Keep up the good work.
If youtube didn’t start doing double ads i probably wouldn’t have got an ad blocker lol
if the internet didn't run on ads maybe then i'd stop using an adblocker
Tbh I only watch ads if I want to support my favorite content creators.
If ads weren't split 50/50 between big tittied anime girls advertising a game that has nothing to do with said game and legitimate scams that install viruses, I'd never have used Adblock
If ads were just silent banners, not loud AF videos one after the other, i'd consider not using adblock...
We pay for the internet and then we get ads wtf is this crap. If internet was free I wouldn't care if u threw 100 ads 🤣 I am paying for my internet and I deserve not to be harrased by utube
I definitely learned about adblockers in the first wave of the "ad-pocalypse". I think there was something that showed an increase in ad blockers at that point too. Like they put MORE ads in that essentially punished the viewers that weren't using adblockers by over loading them with ads, and it had zero deterence to those who were using already. So more people turned to adblockers to get around the increase of ads. They just keep shooting themselves in the foot rather than making the ad experience more seamless.
If it was just the old single 5 second skip able ads almost nobody would use Adblock the problem is that they have been pushing more invasive ads which leads to more people using Adblock
Gotta give you this. I heard music on RUclips, I got 2 ads (one was 15 seconds, second one was 20) I wasn’t able to skip them. What has this site become..?
@@souls4781 reason i fcking used adblocker also its unskippable 20s to 15s
I think people would still use adblockers. I know I would. I want to watch the video, not an ad, so I'd get an ad blocker. Not only that, banner ads can be annoying depending on how big and in your face they are, and lets not forget how some sites have popup ads.
I once got a shitty Vietnam ad over 3 minutes promoting shitty products and even I can tell it's low quality.
For me, it was when youtube allowed ads to fake the "skip" button to get people to click on their ad. Double un-skippable ads just confirmed my choice.
I'm addicted to RUclips but I'm also 1000% ready to drop it fully if they actually manage to defeat the adblockers for good. I know I'm not the only one
Saying Vs Doing
Oh same here. It'll actually probably help my time management if I don't have RUclips to waste time on anymore
same
How are you watching RUclips right now? Did you disable your adBlocker or are you paying for Premium?
Personally I did disable the adBlocker (for RUclips) but I open the every videos with "Open link in private window". Obviously I have the AdBlock activated in this window...
It seems to work perfectly and I don't think they could really do anything against this method because in this private window I'm not even logged in.
@@Alfred-Neuman Brave, Opera GX or uBlock origin (this is a little more involved since you basically have to update it once or twice a day). Where there's a will, there's a way.
I didn't have a problem with ads until about a year ago. That's when youtube started shoving double unskippable ads that were anything from 10-30 seconds long. At that point I just decided it wasn't worth my patience anymore and installed one
Ads on TV are over 5 minutes. If only all ads lasted 10-30 seconds.
@@MarkLikesCoffee860 thank god I don't watch TV then
thats why people stopped watching normal tv lmao@@MarkLikesCoffee860
why lie .. unskippable ads can only be 15 seconds max im a professional your not . this is easily debunked so why lie its free information
@@MarkLikesCoffee860 hes even lieing about it unskippable ads can only be 15 seconds long .. basically your waiting between 5 seconds and 30 seconds tops it svery unlikely youll get to 15 second unskippable ads in a row i find most unskippable ads are around 10 second slong and u usually only get one
My biggest gripe is how they show me ads that are against my moral beliefs. Scam ads, animal product commercials etc. are not welcome. If I can't use adblock these days, I'd just start watching something else.
It's one thing to suffer through ads that you dislike. It's something else to deal with the scams and BS. I can absolutely understand someone paying for a general ad-block subscription, especially on a network wide level, because of that difference. Even more so for those responsible for a child, an elder, or just someone lacking in internet savvy-ness that cannot be individually monitored whenever that are accessing the internet.
This. I had to forcibly install an adblock on my grandma's computer because she kept falling for those "Your computer has a virus, call this number and we'll fix it" pop up scams and then fought me and told me I was wrong whenever I tried to tell her they were scams.
We tried to block the annoying ads by using an adblocker. Then RUclips decided to block adblockers. "This is war!" said the adblockers, and they made an adblock blocker blocker...
I said it once and I'll say it again, this is not a fight that RUclips can win. Because most people would rather support the content creators by donating to their stream labs and patreons rather than sit through ads that they do not care about.
jepp, i agree
money wise i don't agree. the ad business is a billion dollar business and patreon is very small. people rather want to have free services and watch ads than pay monthly subscriptions.
@@willi1978 depends
They can patch their service and roll out a change maybe once per day, because rollouts take a lonnnng time, adblockers can update in minutes, with far less trouble and overhead. Only way youtube wins here is to stop playing.
I am now looking into how to stop ads on my appletv. the amount of ads now has just gotten out of hand. now that you mentioned i can possible put it at my router level I guess that is where i need to go next. I cant run an adblocker on my appletv but man the 30+ sec ads then the non-skip ads is just out of control. I dont know if content creators choose which ads to use or how many but if i wanted that many ads i would watch cable tv. Great video and thanks for the info.
The biggest thing for me personally is double to even in some cases triple ads, I've noticed without ad blocker and you don't touch the controls for a while they will even show triple ads it makes you think watching a video (what the website is primarily for) isn't even worth it due to the fact over the years RUclips has upped the amount of ads silently on the website when almost every single video you click on starts with an ad.
Not to mention all the the ads that play when people go to sleep without closing RUclips on auto-play. They make plenty of money
they stop playing stuff after 3 hours which is annoying as fuck to me@@mikael557
RUclips has a lot of nerve making a big deal about adblockers when the ads aren't safe 90% of the time. That, and how disgustingly useless they are about enforcing their own rules based on popularity/favoritism. I'm glad they're losing to adblockers, even if the ads were safe tbh
At this point I use an ad blocker out of spite for youtube. I was getting really agressive ads for weeks like 5 ads front to back 2+ min each and unskippable no matter how many times you refreshed the page. It made consuming content on youtube tedious and really annoying. I often watch youtube to chill out but would get ads that had egregious volume spikes and were harsh on the ears. I didn't want to constantly wait through a bunch of loud annoying ads for things I don't care about when the content I want to consume is totally separate. It's also nice to have an ad blocker for other websites that try to advertise viruses or scams like Muta mentioned. It was just a really annoying thing to deal with, and it made browsing the internet less enjoyable. So yes, I'de rather financially support ad blockers rather than the giant media empire that is youtube/google, because they at least make life a little easier for me. RUclips has demonstrated many times that they don't care about their users, so why should I care about youtube? Call me selfish, but I feel justified in my use of ad blockers. If I want to support a creator, I'll donate directly to them or buy their merch.
"...they don't care about their users, so why should I care about youtube?" THIS.
same here dude i use Brave Browser
The ham-handed way that they implement ads puts the lie to the myth that Google is some kind of special, precious genius bin. Break it up!
In some parts of the world those volume spikes are actually illegal...when on broadcast television.
I feel like the whole argument that we should watch ads to support creators should be laid to rest at this point. Its moot. Like you mentioned, theres alternatives to supporting creators, where you actually know how much the creator receives, and can determine the amount yourself. Be it direct donations, buyin merch or subscribing to their patreons.
If anything, its the people behind youtube who should feel bad for shoving advertising at us that conditions our minds to want to buy stuff we dont truly need, which is actually kinda predatory. With this in mind I have a clean concscience using ad blockers.
I have a youtube premium family plan in my household, so we don't gets ads, but I do have my ad blocker always active because I'm tired of sneaky pop up ads showing up right over a button I need to click in order to interact with the site I'm visiting. It feels like the ad is purposefully placed there for you to click on instead of the button. It's happened to me too often to warrant ignoring.
I've been using premium since it was called RUclips Red. I did the 3 month free trial and liked it enough to pay when it ended. I've managed to live blissfully ignorant of how bad youtube ads have gotten, but I see them from my friends. They are getting out of hand.
I kept adblock free for years, but I changed due to the amount of scam ads on the internet in general and in particular for youtube, it became a problem where ads kept getting longer and more egregious, to the point I was just done with it all
My patience ran out in 2019 when my computer crashed from being overloaded by ads. Got an adblocker and have never had a problem since.
i feel like a good 60% of the issues with youtube ads would be fixed if they just made advertisers verify their identity
But think about the prospects that would not be able to show their scam 💸💸💸
No, they would have to make every ad skippable for me to turn off adblock.
@@LinkRammer The unskipable multi ads is what sent me over the edge.
if youtube verified the ads and checked so they are legit and true and improved the ad quality would make a huge difference.. at this moment in time they have a company that have payed for 200+ ads in youtube and in the google network that give users pron ads, pron pictures in the top right corner.. one can be ok but 200+?
The creators is punished for showing skin but the companies who buy ads can show pron and no punishment?
sadly, that doesn't work. many of the scam ads are ran on stolen accounts anyway
If youtube were to try to fight this in the legal system they would potentially open themself up to a lot of questions. I feel like once everything gets opened up it would be hard for them to justify wanting to force users to watch advertisements when they run fraudulent advertisements on their platform. Who knows what else they might have going on in the back end that might be illegal that they don't want coming to light in a legal case?
For what it’s worth, that line of JS checking for installed ad blockers is not nearly as invasive as cookies are. Not defending it but I think the ad blocker community forgot about the various other means sites go about seeing someone’s specs/tracking someone’s activities.
in the EU, every website has to ask you beforehand, if you want to use their cookies.@@TitaniumTurbine
The thing is, they arent going to fight it legally, they also cant fight it legally, since adblockers arent illegal in the first place.
They potentially could perform a civil suit against adblock users for breach of contract (in this case the terms of service), however seeing as youtube doesnt require you to accept the terms of service before using it, this wouldnt be a valid in every case, this is also why it is potentially illegal for them to detect the adblocks, since it requires them to run javascript on your device, to gather information about whether or not youre using adblock, potentially without you having given any sort of consent, or even being informed that it would happen, whilst this javascript really isnt that invasive, and doesnt really provide them any personal information, it could still be seen as illegal on principle alone, since youre still gathering user data illegally according to the EU GDPR laws as stated in the video.
But even in the cases where they might be able to sue you for breaking ToS they most likely wouldnt, since currently, all theyre doing is annoying adblock users, which people is against sure, but most of them are still using youtube, however once they start sueing people, then im fairly sure people are just gonna quit youtube and swap to any alternative, each time youtube is creating these annoyances, theyre reducing their value over the competition, this means more and more people would start looking for alternatives, which isnt really something theyre interested in, which is why people arent getting banned for using adblocks, but just told to disable it.
If not for corrupt politicians turning a blind eye towards big tech, RUclips would have been sued for hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars by now for their intrusive tracking and surveilliance, which is against the law. Not to mention that a lot of the ads on their platform are also for companies that break the law, with schemes and scams running amok. (or inappropriate content for minors)
I hope it will go to court one day and they will have to answer for their lack of ethics in running what has basically become a community platform now. Or maybe it will, like facebook before them. go the way of the dodo and people will switch to other, more ethical and user-friendly platforms and it will slowly start to die out.
its no differrent then sommeone messaging a bunch of people on facebok with a malicious link
RUclips: "I'm not saying we'll spam you with ads. I'm just saying that people who don't pay for premium happen to get spammed with ads."
It's the Cobra effect just like that one video I watched. They tried to stop a "problem" that's run rampant, and all it's doing is introducing Adblock Users to better Adblocks and when it's all over, there'll be many more users with much better adblockers than before. Sometimes the best course of action is to do nothing. But if you must do something, do it where it won't push people to fight smarter. Instead of attacking adblockers, create some other way to make ads less intrusive and all that so people are more inclined to whitelist your site.
I think Google has tried to exclude ad blockers from their extensions store in the past. But people simply switched to another browser and Google would've lost a significant amount of the market share - so they allowed ad blockers again.
They then tried modifying Chromium's extensions system by pretty blatantly kneecapping the way every adblocker worked, which they now keep delaying (I wouldn't be surprised if the legal department is telling them not to do so).
Thank goodness for Firefox and Safari not being Chromium derivatives.
@@kontenterrorist2449 this is funny though, because Brave IS a Chromium derivative, and this entire debacle affected me for like literally 2 days when it started, and Brave has blocked everything since with no problem (for me)
Yea you know they hate it with google making the LARGE majority of it's revenue from advertising. But like you said, way to many people would leave chrome if they literally couldn't install a adblocker. I know they do not allow any extensions that allow you to download videos off of youtube. For example the extension "Video DownloadHelper", the version from the Chrome store can not download YT videos because it's against the rules for the chrome webstore. But the Firefox version, or the version you can get from Edge's extension store can download YT videos no problem
Muta deserves some credit for breaking down such a technically complex topic, to a level that a lay person could understand.
this is why i fuckin love him
That's kinda his shtick and I appreciate him for that.
this is actually one of my favourite vids of his to date.
🤓
As a person on the spectrum with hearing sensory issues, add blockers are a must for me, because I literally experience immense pain and stress in response to certain sounds. Food advertisements love to emphasize the exact sounds that trigger me, and youtube insists on constantly showing fast food adds at obnoxiously loud volumes.
I know its not the intention but it feels ablest, because having to pay for premium just to make the site usable feels like taxing someone for using a wheelchair ramp, instead of a staircase.
Needless to say I'm never going to stop using adblockers in general, and I'm not about to start feeling bad about it for some multi billion dollar corpo monopoly.
@sMansGuitars Dailymotion has gotten almost as bad, it forces you to remove ad block and the ads are unskippable if the video has them. I tried to watch Doctor Who series 11 episode 1 and lost track of how many times the ads popped up, not to mention they cut the final few min of the episode so I had to look it up on YT. Episode 2 had no ads but again cut the final few min of the episode when they were first walking into the TARDIS. Kind of sad to see it like this since I watched most of classic Who on it, they were missing a bunch of major episodes sadly but I got to see most of it, that was around 2013 I want to say.
An ad on RUclips ruined my friend's proposal surprise few months ago. He was looking for rings online and was planing huge surprise and planning everything just to be destroyed by RUclips ad about engagement rings that played while he wanted to show his gf (now fiance) some video and his gf immediately put 2 and 2 together (she didn't say anything at the time but after the proposal, but prior that ad she had no idea).
He wasn't spending much time on RUclips so he didn't have an ad blocker at the time. Even tho they still got engagement it was a huge bummer for him and for her because he was planning and spending a lot of money to be the perfect surprise for the moment. That's why I hate ads, not just because they're so many but because they're so intrusive. Even tho it's not just RUclips problem, but a internet problem as a whole, still RUclips is part of that problem. Ad blockers have become necessity when it shouldn't be.
That truly sucks
The best part of the whole thing is clicking on a video named "RUclips Is Losing To The Adblockers..." without any preroll, midroll, or banner ads anywhere :)
Some adblocks are kind of behind on staying up-to-date, but ublock origin has always worked for me. Sometimes its a little on-and-off, but usually restarting Opera GX fixes it
ublock origins - settings -filter lists: click purge all caches + update now.
why not use adblock plus? It's flawlessly worked for me since 2014
I had been using an adblocker for years mostly just for popups and the more intrusive ads.
Recently I've been away from home and unable to use adblock and I can't believe how impossible to use a lot of sites have become and the sheer amount of ads you have to endure.
I feel like I'm going insane after listening to the 5th ad on a single video. I'd like to think I have a decent amount of patience. But. They really push it with the heinous amount of ads on every single website.
The ones that really do my head in and affirm my use of ad blockers are where it will load so many ads that the page keeps moving and you can't read it. Nothing more irritable than that
Revanced for youtube.
Do it. It's worth the 5 minutes to download from the website.
You have no patients if you can’t sit through a 15 second ad…Normal TV used to have 3 mins collection of ads. Attention-span of a gold fish you have.
@@dtrizzle67 usually the ads are more like 30 seconds and the difference with TV is that the amount of time you view before ads is much greater, yt it can be 45 seconds of ads every 5 minutes. TV is like 5 minutes of ads every 15 or 20 minutes
I personally think ad-blockers are really important for older family members. It stops them from clicking on scam ads and saves them from getting scammed from some indian call center or getting some sort of malware on their computer
RUclips has managed to single-handedly deal advertisers a major blow by forcing adblockers to become so much more powerful, and so much more popular, lol. If RUclips hadn't started their crap, then fewer people would be using adblockers. But now that their ads have gotten so invasive and that youtube has gotten so insistent, many more people are rushing to install one of the various methods of getting around ads, which means that everybody else who needs ad revenue is going to suffer that much more. But then, the advertisers and those who use them only have themselves to blame. Normal on-page ads were tolerated by most back in the day, until they turned into bright flashing animated banners. But that wasn't enough, oh no. Then they started embedding sound on them so that your computer can just randomly start blaring an ad on an otherwise silent webpage. Then, after that, came the popup windows and it didn't take long until malware started appearing in them and that's when adblockers started to pop up. It started as simple browser tools to stop pop-up windows until browsers started shipping with that by default.
And then, the adblockers came onto the scene to start getting rid of ads, entirely. From all websites. All kinds of ads. Even the benign banner ads. All of them were nuked.
If only the advertisers hadn't gotten greedy and invasive, they'd still be getting ad revenue.
add blockers blcoked all ads before they still do it now this powerful upgrade u speak of doesnt change anything the upgrade only happened because the ad blcokers couldnt block the ads not that long ago their was no problem blocking ads how is this making a diifferrnce again it snot
@jasonanderson5034 did you have a stroke while typing this, homie.
@@jasonanderson5034 Going by your name, you should be able to form coherent sentences with punctuation. You're making AI look good...
ya but end of the day, they still won because tons of people folded and just paid for premium. I'm sure the numbers are through the roof for new subscribers.
The funny thing is that my government tells me to use an ad blocker for my own safety! And they are absolutely right. When I disabled the ad blocker, 90% of what I got was get rich quick scheme ads.
edit: I'm now using the "Brave" browser with integrated ad blocker and the best thing is, it even blocks everything on the mobile version =) Thank you yt for forcing me to look for a new browser.
When the FBI themselves recommend adblockers, I’m gonna use adblockers
which country?
Really respect Mutahar for not asking his viewers to turn off Adblock. It shows he appreciates the views over the money.
Or he has safer sources of income and it's a bad look to agree with RUclips.
It also shows that he knows he can't pander to his audience. His neutral position is definitely the most mature way to handle something like this.
He doesn’t even have ads on his video
@@PowuhToSeven like anybody makes any decent amount of money out of exclusively youtube ads.
Dude works in tech, he doesn't need the pennies YT throws to its creators.
I am in a country that didn't really have ads on TV or in newspapers, so the whole concept is a bit strange to me.
But google reads through my emails, they see what I write on youtube or instagram, and still put up ads for things that are completely uninteresting to me. At best they put up an ad for something I had already bought!
It's just so stupid
Imagine the adblockers become so advanced and widespread that adblockers are automatically built in to every device and ads are completely removed from the internet forever. Hopefully that's what this is heading towards
If RUclips doesn't listen to us, then why should we listen to them?
Because you dont have value. I doesnt have one too in the grand of scheme. Because we easily replace-able.
RUclips value, are much more than just a Video. Human life today involve RUclips in super big way more than people think. And even with that, we can still stay anonymous to each other.
What i fear, this kind of shit youtube pull is to prepare for plausible deniability to charge people more later on, be it from ads, user, content creator, even become a propaganda machine that being moved by Powerhouse Country, which is today is EU(cough adspocalypse) or US. And its the user that always lose, even if RUclips losing money, its user that affected the lasting effect.
Sure, whatever you say@@michaelbuto305
Because you don’t have value. I don’t have one either, in the grand scheme of things. Because we are easily replaceable.
RUclips’s value is much more than just a video platform. Human life today involves RUclips significantly. Much more than one would think.
While also maintaining the ability to be anonymous to one another.
What I fear, is that the kind of shit youtube is pulling are just preparations for plausible deniability to enable them to increase the amounts they charge people later on, be it from ads, user data or content creators. They might even become propaganda for today’s national superpowers such as the EU (Adpocalypse cough cough), or the united states. And inevitably, the consumers are going to be the ones to lose, even if RUclips were to lose money, its the consumer that will experience all the drawbacks.
(I tried my best)
@@mko2306The world changes and no king rules forever.
Anytime I think about why I use an adblock, I have to compare sponsored videos/ad-reads in the videos I watch. People like The Internet Historian, the ads are legitimately entertaining. I've even found a couple products I've bought because of ad-reads. Things like displate, boksu, cultivate, and honey.
But integrated/adsense ads, those are pure cancer. I've seen horror movies advertised before kids shows on RUclips... That my kids were watching at the time. I've seen scams. So many scams. Unless Mr Beast really is giving away more iphones than apple manufactures. And I've seen malware.
I don't feel bad blocking ads at all. RUclips can suck it up. They need to deliver better ads if they want me to stop blocking them. As it is, I will stop using youtube before I will allow them to deliver ads to my PC. It's bad enough that I can't block them easily in the apps (again, so much inappropriate before kids content). And I know what they would say to: "WeLl We HaVe A KIdS ApP!" No. The kids app is awful. RUclips already takes controls away from users way to aggressively; the options for controls on the kids app is pathetic.
I'm a software engineer. If I were in charge of several departments of the RUclips user experience, I would be utterly ashamed of myself.
Yep. I watch a few creators myself who tend to make their sponsor reads as amusing as they can. I'll check the comments and they'll openly say "Hey, that ad read was highly amusing" or "You're the only channel I don't insta skip the sponsor segments".
Meanwhile the full ads are like....
I don't mind just advertising. It's mildly annoying. But at this point, between "I just want to spite RUclips for getting this aggressive" and the pure vitriol of the advertisements, I block.
Oh, and they've been continuously degrading the UX in RUclips for easily a decade if not two. They've made it PRETTIER, yes, but it's a lot less USABLE.
Giant thumbnails that significantly reduce information density, autoplay WITH SOUND, autoplaying videos the instant you click them so you can't just click and let it load...
Oh, and my "favorite", they frontload the video loading - and autoplaying - to frontload the ads. So there can be literally nothing functional on the page, just those glowing "placeholder" icons, and the video is (trying to) play.
This is a HUGE problem for older systems and slow connections where the act of playing the video takes up so much resources that it drags the loading of the "everything else" down severely.
The only ads I dont always skip is the sponsors the creators picked themselves, and thats because they actually manage to make the sponsor ad an entertaining or interesting/helpful part of the video
This is why I always tell people that once they entered the internet, the word privacy literally morphs into a question mark.
Corporations don't understand that fighting adblocks or even piracy is a stupid endeavour because the people that use adblocks or pirated software already will never pay them any money, this could be something driven out of principal or out of necessity, but waging a war because of a percentage of people using adblock/piracy is a huge waste of resources and time, for essentially no gain.
But corporations are obsessed with control and this is why these stupid and useless wars are fought.
So many issues with youtube ads like you stated. I got one the other day that was saying "With this one simple trick you'll never need to see your optometrist (eye doctor) again!" And showed someone putting a spoon covering their eye, and was tapping it with another spoon.
Things like this seem literally dangerous to peoples health, because some people would believe this and take it literally.
I'd say it would probably force you to visit them if you did that
how is youtube expect to prove that every business is a scam ..... they would need medical experts experts on every niche cause their are many scams that only people involed in the niche could understand why its a scam its impossible also a site coudl be hacked after a ad starts .. and become malicious anti virus cant detec everything their not perfect .. it impossible to stop scams completely ... its also bigotry to reject a medical treatement without doing research it could religous herbal and acually work are they expect to have people with iqs over 200 that know everyhting about everything
I don't really care that there are ads on RUclips. What provokes me to use adblock is a majority of ads on RUclips are misleading and malicious, some even lead to malware!
It is simple to overcome the ads, select the video that you want to watch, then immediately click the back button, then forward button back to the video, the ad will play for about 1 second.
I have never bought anything from an internet advert, and I very much doubt that I ever will, so I have no interest in the adverts. I find it very intrusive to have to sit through an advert that has zero relevance to me.
I think a big part of why Google would continue to offer these adblock softwares (aside from keeping those users and developers in the google ecosystem) is to combat anti-trust litigation. Monopolies do a lot of non-intuitive things to preserve their market share and maintain their monopolistic control.
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Brave hype?
How can an adblock be against a TOS that a person with no account on youtube has ever agreed to.
Answer: it can't.
@@Unknown_Genius Disagree, stop comparing things that should not be compared or made as an analogy. They are not the same.
@@Unknown_GeniusIf the TOS is not shown to a user without an account, similar to the Accept Cookies prompt which is legally required in order to apply tracking on said user, then you are 100% wrong. Your supermarket analogy sucks, especially when users without accounts can be compared more to window shoppers who don't even enter as they can't like, dislike, comment, subscribe, add to watch later, or any other function that comes with actually utilising the site fully.
I used to whitelist RUclips from my Adblockers because I wanted to support the creators who have 100% replaced the need for any kind of TV or other paid entertainment service for me personally. However, the ads started getting more and more aggressive (shit like a 15 second ad immediately followed by a 10 minute ad which made it impossible to just put your phone somewhere and watch a playlist of videos while having wet / dirty hands) and eventually I went back to blocking all ads on RUclips (currently through Brave Browser's integrated adblocking system).
I'm happy i've never disabled my adblockers for many years, & i don't regret it, youtube didn't have ads when it first was created, they're just forcing it
The ads normally don't even bother me. It bothers me when they give you the skip ad button and when you press it another ad starts playing lol
RUclips should just do static ads (they could even do 2-4 or charge more from the advertiser for showing their ad alone) on the beginning of the video, which can be skipped immediately or like after 3 seconds. Or just do the oldschool way of having the ads somewhere on the sides or header etc.
Advertisers would rather you blocked the ad, and not be charged for it, than have one that is guaranteed to be ignored, costing them money for zero return.
Hilariously, that is more or less what RUclips Premium's ad is. Its quiet with a soft sound when the logo appears, it stays for 5 seconds, ad ends, Video resumes. They have the answers!
@@immortalstar0138 Wait, you still get ads on youtube premium. I do not want a soft whisper. I do not want the consumer ding. Ughhh Thanks for the info. Hard pass on prem, if they still showing ads.
@@rogue-ish5713 No no I mean an Ad that PROMOTES RUclips Premium.
@@immortalstar0138 They are seriously showing ads on RUclips Premium?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. *breathes* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Good God.
I love it how he always got a good speech, really good points, and not too worried about quality to save time editing.