The FBI Ran The Largest Criminal Messaging Network...

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  • @SomeOrdinaryGamers
    @SomeOrdinaryGamers  Год назад +160

    Go to expressvpn.com/sog and find out how you can get 3 months of ExpressVPN free!

  • @criidawg
    @criidawg Год назад +2772

    Imagine using something for years, believing it to be safe from the eyes of the government... And it turns out it is literally a government run operation.

    • @raeldri5867
      @raeldri5867 Год назад +361

      Every VPN service: 😅

    • @360VideoDesign
      @360VideoDesign Год назад

      Don't forget to get your vaxx. Trust the science.

    • @actuallynotsteve
      @actuallynotsteve Год назад +176

      The FBI literally ran at least one darknet market for like 6 months, if not multiple. And allowed real transactions to take place. Honeypots are kinda ingenius,

    • @5226-p1e
      @5226-p1e Год назад +104

      every cell phone ever released into the public.

    • @judgedrekk2981
      @judgedrekk2981 Год назад +44

      rule 1 for life: if it sounds too good to be true, it is!

  • @gunargundarson1626
    @gunargundarson1626 Год назад +668

    Fun-fact: the term "military grade" is used in fictional setting to emphasize quality whereas the real "military grade" means to produce it widely for cheap as possible.

    • @socks7545
      @socks7545 Год назад +40

      gov loves that low bid stuff

    • @amaliosaenz23
      @amaliosaenz23 Год назад +29

      Some "military grade" things are actually military grade meaning really good such as vest/body armor has to be good and hold up the certain standards to keep people alive also ammunition they get access to nato rounds which are the best when it comes to penetration rations lol they taste like shit but last years on end need I go on ?

    • @tpd1864blake
      @tpd1864blake Год назад +32

      @@amaliosaenz23but it wouldn’t be called military grade armor, it would be called class IV or whatever armor

    • @katyree
      @katyree Год назад +9

      Military grade, aka better than nothing, probably works, most of the time, lmao

    • @Nick-mz4jh
      @Nick-mz4jh 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@tpd1864blakelevel 4, lvl 5+ is better tho and what I assume the military would use. Not trying to correct you to be a douche or anything, moreso just if you wanna use it in the future lol

  • @unwiser
    @unwiser Год назад +1704

    Man, the fbi was trolling them at this point.
    “We are not federal agents” man I started laughing when I saw that. It’s honestly hilarious.

    • @daviddragonheart6798
      @daviddragonheart6798 Год назад +148

      Located in:
      *Your walls*
      Oh for sure, some FBI agent KNEW what they were doing. Someone needs to be given a bonus for that

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Год назад +23

      I'd call that anti-bait

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly Год назад +47

      Everyone's a federal agent unless proven otherwise trust no one

    • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца
      @КГБКолДжорджКостанца Год назад +41

      xD like even i was just confused and thinking....."it's not that the FBI is smart.....just criminals are uniquely simpletons" and make their jobs easier

    • @SuperCrazyEstonian
      @SuperCrazyEstonian Год назад

      The amount of thieves we have caught because they stare at cameras is astonishing. I work in retail theft prevention and some idiots really walk into a store while staring at cameras. Way to draw attention. @@КГБКолДжорджКостанца

  • @graye2799
    @graye2799 Год назад +2029

    If a social network overtly markets itself as a crime one, its probably a honeypot.

    • @Wanteyt
      @Wanteyt Год назад +18

      😂😂💯

    • @Wanteyt
      @Wanteyt Год назад +139

      Wish the government would go after these telegram cash app scammers

    • @heycat33
      @heycat33 Год назад +16

      @@Wanteyt fr

    • @actuallynotsteve
      @actuallynotsteve Год назад +57

      Always PGP, assume it's all a trap.
      They were literally able to get BIOS level access on air-gapped machines via inaudible noise pushed through a computer microphone in like 2010, who knows how crazy it's gotten now.

    • @graye2799
      @graye2799 Год назад +13

      @@actuallynotsteve what are you referring too?

  • @DatBoiiFredo
    @DatBoiiFredo Год назад +554

    I love that criminal influencers do as little research into the products they pedal to their followers as social media influences do.

    • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца
      @КГБКолДжорджКостанца Год назад +1

      it's like a black market solely for criminals....just like us in the clearnet, except we are not criminal, but they live in their own world

    • @zaco-km3su
      @zaco-km3su Год назад +43

      Or maybe they were caught with something and were offered a deal: pedal this for free and you can go free.

    • @ToveriJuri
      @ToveriJuri Год назад +37

      I hate the fact that there even is a concept like "Criminal Influencer".

    • @TheSilviaGuy
      @TheSilviaGuy Год назад +1

      Who tf is the guy in mutas short section?

    • @kesamek8537
      @kesamek8537 Год назад +10

      Imagine using a VPN thinking none of them is run by the FBI while watching a video about networks that turns out were run by the FBI.

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 Год назад +294

    The main thing that law enforcement will do is allow small time distributors they've identified to keep doing their thing so they can then track down the actual leaders of the enterprise to shut it from the top down. If they just immediately blow the cover of a honeypot to arrest a few people, then the actual leaders get away and nothing actually gets shut down. Tracking things down like leaders, labs, and distribution methods can take a while so not blowing their cover was the smart thing to do in the long run.

    • @Wallychans
      @Wallychans Год назад

      Evil.
      Any government agency turning cheek to victims so they can get the “BIG bad guy” aren’t doing it for the safety of the citizens, but for the promotion and possible media fame.

    • @unknownman5090
      @unknownman5090 Год назад

      While yes I believe they are looking for leader to smash them from top to down, it doesnt mean they cannot bait them.and I doubt criminal group leader who is good enough to hide from law enforcement will ever need to use "Privacy-Focused" device. Most of them will just use burner phone anyway. It just sad. Yes FBI do good, but they just turn blind eye most of the time. someone with fucking braincell can work out that Anom is federal agency operation if they read "Definitely not federal agency"

    • @Antrezz-gg4wx
      @Antrezz-gg4wx 11 месяцев назад

      This sounds stupid when we're still allowing 100s of cartels in Mexico to traffic anything from drugs to kids.

    • @mahdhatre
      @mahdhatre 7 месяцев назад +1

      Like it's literally the same thing the Allies did in WW2. Once they broke enigma, if they intervened on every piece of intel instead of cherry-picking, Germany would've quickly rebuilt it, extending the war by years.

  • @GeorgeRamsey22
    @GeorgeRamsey22 Год назад +948

    Muta never fails to be targeted by the C.IA.

  • @Ciguato
    @Ciguato Год назад +217

    “we are not federal agents”
    criminals: *sounds legit to me*

    • @MDGOLD
      @MDGOLD Год назад

      Yeah don't Believe someone when they say that Unless your gut is telling you to Especially you didn't say you were with the fbi

    • @sofboiquiet
      @sofboiquiet 27 дней назад

      these man committing crime are usually not very smart

  • @GoufinAround_
    @GoufinAround_ Год назад +679

    The FBI probably runs several of the VPN services you and others get sponsored by on youtube. I'm sure the FBI runs many, many things that look normal and average people use regularly without being looked in on because there's no reason for them to do so

    • @jfarrar19
      @jfarrar19 Год назад +134

      Honestly i assume that all VPNs are owned by one government agency or another; honestly the services offered sound like theyd need resources on the scale of a state

    • @AbandonedVoid
      @AbandonedVoid Год назад +174

      They don't even have to run everything. They often pressure devs to install backdoors and/or supply data

    • @saladgreens912
      @saladgreens912 Год назад +1

      Eh, that’s a bit too conspiratorial imo. I think there is a healthy level of scepticism to have and ya, they probably have their fingers in a few things. But also VPN’s are super profitable and there probably are also just a lot of legitimate business trying to profit. Well, as legitimate as a VPN provider can be.
      Not everything is a spy movie. These agencies aren’t super human either they are ran by regular people. Remember kids, never go full schizo :D

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ Год назад

      ​@@tricursor2481it's not about helping people; it's about making them slaves to the system. They won't legalize drugs because then the food-pharma-insurance triangle loses billions. The government is NOT your friend.

    • @ecumene1960
      @ecumene1960 Год назад +55

      @@AbandonedVoidpretty sure there’s a law put in place to prevent this issue, but whether government agencies actually follow this law is questionable. Hard to regulate something as flimsy and untraceable as the internet.

  • @kesamek8537
    @kesamek8537 Год назад +40

    Imagine using a VPN thinking none of them is run by the FBI while watching a video about networks that turns out were run by the FBI.

  • @IlluminatiBG
    @IlluminatiBG Год назад +82

    Funny part is, impenetrable secure communication is free, it is called PGP, but it needs to be set up manually between people you plan to talk to, but most of the people that can set it up actually have nothing important to hide.

    • @tomjones6347
      @tomjones6347 11 месяцев назад +4

      This

    • @littleskeleton7887
      @littleskeleton7887 11 месяцев назад +5

      Haha uh idk about that lol a lot of people use pgp for illicit activities

    • @IlluminatiBG
      @IlluminatiBG 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@littleskeleton7887 I have never heard of someone caught to use pgp.

    • @7ilver
      @7ilver 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@IlluminatiBGsays alot 👀

    • @theshapeshifter6032
      @theshapeshifter6032 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@littleskeleton7887 yea don't use this thing we can't track you guys on because it's used by criminals!!! common fed agent L try better next time

  • @robertnapier624
    @robertnapier624 Год назад +145

    FBI: FBI OPEN UP!
    The people on the other side: WE ARE THE FBI!!!

    • @jfarrar19
      @jfarrar19 Год назад +13

      To defeat the criminal
      You must become the criminal

    • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца
      @КГБКолДжорджКостанца Год назад +3

      KGB WILL WAIT FOR NO ONE

    • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца
      @КГБКолДжорджКостанца Год назад

      CIA must have that motto @@jfarrar19

    • @jakedill1304
      @jakedill1304 Год назад +3

      If you're really FBi, then show us your regulation issue training bras?
      Shots ring out.. gun fight ensues...
      If they were real FBI.. they would know, a G-Man never shows his regulation training bra.. WWEHD! What Would Edgar Hoover Do?

    • @No_Fuse8771
      @No_Fuse8771 Год назад +1

      Funny story bro, to bad it true, lol.

  • @Ecktor
    @Ecktor Год назад +54

    I never imagined hearing the term "criminal influencer" outside of hyperbole... 😂

    • @red__guy
      @red__guy Год назад +1

      Coffezilla joined the chat.
      Jk, there's criminal influencers and influencer criminals.

  • @Poteto420
    @Poteto420 Год назад +11

    This is fascinating. I'm watching this while stoned out of my mind and I'm still taking everything in. that's how good Mutahar is at explaining stuff.

  • @yashwanthadloori1940
    @yashwanthadloori1940 Год назад +75

    Have to see how many time Muta says, "Ooooh theeee FBI" 😂

  • @SpencerHHO
    @SpencerHHO Год назад +66

    It was an FBI AFP (aus fed police) pretty much from the beginning. Australia has weaker privacy protections in our constitution and a lot of the servers were here. I'm ambivalent about this approach but it's not true that this wasn't used before the big crackdown. There are a few now public cases where the data was used to intercept drug trades, prevent murders and even terror plots. It did however create paranoia within some crim orgs who thought someone was snitching and this may have caused violence where it wouldn't have otherwise happened.

  • @pierrevalentino5250
    @pierrevalentino5250 Год назад +57

    FBI did FBI things - alternate title

  • @supremelucks
    @supremelucks Год назад +39

    So your telling me MCAFEE was right 💀this confirms everything he said

    • @potatohead3323
      @potatohead3323 2 месяца назад

      mcafee was a genius ngl, watch his interview on matt and shanes secret podcast

  • @higurashinerd
    @higurashinerd Год назад +44

    One thing to add to your summation of "At the end of the day, if your investigation hurts people, your harm has outweighed the good you've done" is doubly true if you flat our provide a 'favorable alternative method' to carry out such harm.
    ANOM advertised itself as being the best alternative specifically for illicit/private business, likely causing an upturn or entrapment in the activity.

    • @screwgoogle4993
      @screwgoogle4993 Год назад

      @@Unknown_Genius The problems they pretend to want to solve only get worse so... aren't we better off if the government just fucked off? Literally leaving criminals alone would make things better than their "help"

  • @glitchy_weasel
    @glitchy_weasel Год назад +118

    I wonder if they used the information gathered from ANOM to prevent crime BEFORE it happened. Otherwise, it looks like they prefer to let crime happen if make arrests later rather than stopping the crime before it occurs.

    • @Memeguppy
      @Memeguppy Год назад +28

      Of course they prefer the first, they want to take out entire criminal gangs and cartels etc not just take out certain people also they can keep incriminating themselves

    • @ManiacX1999
      @ManiacX1999 Год назад

      Have you seen court cases where feds arrested people *before* they commit a crime? You can't predict the future and that case can get dismissed. If they do it, now they have evidence

    • @carloscjr23
      @carloscjr23 Год назад +40

      You don't get budget rises if you stop crimes before it happens

    • @adamburdt8794
      @adamburdt8794 Год назад +8

      To be fair they may have had the big end goal target and had yet to get enough evidence on their intended target.

    • @Memeguppy
      @Memeguppy Год назад

      Are you familiar with the term house of cards?@@carloscjr23 take away a card and the cartel stays intact and they find a replacement take out the entire house and its over with

  • @MoonMinHo
    @MoonMinHo Год назад +182

    So the FBI kinda played real life Watch Dogs: Law Enforcement Edition on criminals. Would be cool if there’s gonna be game based on this.

    • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца
      @КГБКолДжорджКостанца Год назад +16

      Watch dogs and the 2nd one were pretty goated ngl, most people just under-rated the game

    • @thelonecourier3439
      @thelonecourier3439 Год назад +3

      @@КГБКолДжорджКостанцаfirst one was better

    • @spiritgun9415
      @spiritgun9415 Год назад +12

      @@thelonecourier3439Story wise yes but gameplay wd2 got it but, both are goat for me

    • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца
      @КГБКолДжорджКостанца Год назад +3

      @@thelonecourier3439 first one in Story wise made a great introduction, ueah but game play overall was bland, wd2 especially side operations felt pretty cool

    • @cydragon2.099
      @cydragon2.099 Год назад +1

      @@КГБКолДжорджКостанца 1 and 2 and bangers (haven't played 3) and the ONLY black mark I have against them is the selection of music (the possible radio) in the WD series

  • @InventMyTory
    @InventMyTory Год назад +33

    Can’t believe these criminal influencers didn’t disclose that their vids were sponsored

    • @R_S747
      @R_S747 11 месяцев назад

      Ikr don't they know that's against the law

  • @courtneyderouen
    @courtneyderouen Год назад +15

    Lmao Juntao?! That’s the “head criminal” in Rush Hour with Chris Tucker. Hilarious!

  • @BrainstormJr
    @BrainstormJr Год назад +195

    I feel pity for the people who put blind trust in our government. 🤷‍♂️

    • @КГБКолДжорджКостанца
      @КГБКолДжорджКостанца Год назад

      ....american government at best....what fool waves the US flag saying "i love my country and my proud government" no matter which party, both political parties are working in hands to do nothing but control people, so they should stop with this ride the blue wave, or ride the red wave shit, it's no different

    • @zaco-km3su
      @zaco-km3su Год назад +10

      This operation is not a reason to do this.

    • @gotworc
      @gotworc Год назад +11

      Yeah I don't care because I'm not a criminal.

    • @gtamonkey3061
      @gtamonkey3061 Год назад +3

      @@gotworcyou are tho, you’ve jay walked, littered all the little things, you’ve broken the law you’re a criminal

    • @radiokitty9007
      @radiokitty9007 Год назад +5

      @@gtamonkey3061 These people did not commit petty, small crimes. Plus, jaywalking isn’t a real crime and only exists bc car companies laundered money. Not saying the US government is good, but like… these were not people who just wanted to see a movie on Pirate Bay. These were probably actual criminals.

  • @GigaChadsAreReal
    @GigaChadsAreReal Год назад +45

    RIP Muta. We will miss you tons :(

  • @Xkorpitron
    @Xkorpitron Год назад +9

    i remember someone from the FBI saying "why would we create a spyware, we have facebook..."

  • @Chrissmills
    @Chrissmills Год назад +12

    I wonder if everyone who purchased the anom phone got a refund? They technically sold you a phone that’s unusable and doesn’t match what was advertised

  • @beauson1983
    @beauson1983 Год назад +40

    This is fkn hilarious to me because all the real criminals I know just use the open internet and speak in code 😂

    • @JusZard
      @JusZard Год назад +3

      Nah they self snitch lol 😂

    • @Cursed2.0
      @Cursed2.0 Год назад +2

      discord, signal and telegram. whatsapp is trash 😂

    • @falcon1378
      @falcon1378 Год назад

      @@Cursed2.0telegram is compromised. I’m no criminal, but it has been since it’s inception.

    • @x-shift8937
      @x-shift8937 Год назад +3

      You don’t know any real criminals

    • @beauson1983
      @beauson1983 Год назад

      I worked a pub door for years man, it would be statistically impossible for me not to know any criminals, lol @@x-shift8937

  • @RobinLundqvist
    @RobinLundqvist Год назад +39

    Out in the wilderness with no cellphones around is the only way to keep anything a secret. If you're not doing that, the FBI has just decided to let you go free.

    • @Robert_D_Mercer
      @Robert_D_Mercer Год назад +6

      well funny, maybe thats why I found a 2000$ phone on the ground randomly around my home and nobody has yet to claim it... >_> It's a funny theory at least that homies are dropping free phones to spy on homies- wait a minute... Lmao

    • @killingtimeitself
      @killingtimeitself Год назад +2

      even then you cant guarantee security

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ Год назад +8

      Who's gonna tell him about drones and satellites?

    • @craigsampson3386
      @craigsampson3386 Год назад +12

      ​@@Xoulrath_ under water caves it is then 😂

    • @rahmadrenaldi2624
      @rahmadrenaldi2624 Год назад

      ​@@craigsampson3386just dug a tunnel that leads into a dense forest. If they surveiled the tunnel entrances using satellite, then make maze inside the tunnel and put guards at the entrance and check point. That way if the government want to raid them then you have plenty times to be notified by the guards at checkpoint.

  • @evillecaston
    @evillecaston Год назад +15

    Man, looking back at the Freedom Phone is hilarious. I wouldn't be surprised if it was also a glowie honeypot as well.

    • @chilomine839
      @chilomine839 Год назад

      Funny how free is becoming scarce because our entire life is now an open book on line. Become a RUclipsr or any kind of influencer and eventually your entire life history will sooner or later get aired out. Subscribers pretty much require you to do so so they can identify with you. No one wants to support an anonymous personality for too long.

  • @Mimic_Gaming
    @Mimic_Gaming Год назад +10

    You just know that there were one or two REALLY dumb criminals that the guys behind the desk LOVED when their messages popped up

  • @FortifiedIllusion
    @FortifiedIllusion Год назад +34

    if only we knew when this happened, id just get 2 phones and resend bunghole pics back and forth, give them feds something to look at over and over, there could be a secret message in there

    • @FlamespeedyAMV
      @FlamespeedyAMV Год назад +3

      Yeah it's definitely easy to do coded messages that simply would take too much time and resources for them to go through

    • @hatedd7773
      @hatedd7773 Год назад +5

      oh lord this cracked me up, just imagining a group of fbi agents pouring over a bunch of information and seeing a message log where its just different pictures of the same asshole wondering what the fuck is going on

    • @SolaceMcfly
      @SolaceMcfly Год назад

      ​@@hatedd7773the confusion on whoever is looking at these messages would be priceless

    • @cMind607
      @cMind607 Год назад

      @@hatedd7773Throw in a few pics of Kevin Leonardo’s here n there jus to spice things up for them.

    • @thegoldenatlas753
      @thegoldenatlas753 Год назад +2

      Add on a second layer of confusion and make the texts irregular, sometimes its 5 pics at once, sometimes 1, sometimes color edits, sometimes flipping the image, etc etc
      No rhyme or reason to it. Itd drive em crazy. Lol

  • @Just_G4
    @Just_G4 Год назад +6

    It doesn't feel like black mirror, it's the exact plot of an episode from Black List.

  • @IkePalmer18
    @IkePalmer18 Год назад +7

    I’m glad I watched this video because there was actually a hit that was prevented from happening around the corner from my house in a highly populated area because of Trojan Shield (called “Operation Ironside” in Aus). I heard that it was Australian Federal Police that set it up, but learning that it was a world-wide FBI Honeypot doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. There was also a dude on-selling these phones to high ranking Comanchero bikie members who AUSPOL had been struggling to convict for years and this 20 year old hands them to the police on a silver platter. I wouldn’t want to be that kid in prison…

  • @YomaMilkTea
    @YomaMilkTea Год назад +29

    Guys who are supposed to stop crime dont stop crime... that's sounds about accurate, not gonna lie.

    • @pabloac.8100
      @pabloac.8100 Год назад

      It gets better...What about guys who are supposed to stop crime are actually criminals themselves? Of course, I'm not saying all of them are criminals, but anyone with enought time in the internet knows the shady and even evil things the USA's agencies have done in the past (and continue doing), at the expenses of american's taxes...

    • @kameronjones7139
      @kameronjones7139 Год назад +6

      It was a sting

    • @xyz5413
      @xyz5413 Год назад +4

      ? they did lol

    • @veronicaa7748
      @veronicaa7748 Год назад

      @xyz5413 how do fbi catch the suspect when they are the suspect themselves?

    • @xyz5413
      @xyz5413 Год назад

      @@veronicaa7748 they aren't lol. they are the ones making the arrest bro. they setup the operation to catch these apes

  • @justafireextinguisher5161
    @justafireextinguisher5161 Год назад +16

    Who expected such tomfoolery?!!

  • @saren7283
    @saren7283 Год назад +80

    It takes Mutahar until 5:10 to stop wasting your time with fluff to tell you what the messaging Network was.

  • @filip8461
    @filip8461 Год назад +1

    I love this channel for stories like this. That is literally the only channel I watch every single video from. I subscribe a lot of channels but none of them made me watch every upload.

  • @H.V.C_Shino
    @H.V.C_Shino Год назад +9

    If you have millions of dollars. Hire someone to make your tech holy shit. I dont understand. They deserved to get caught

    • @kameronjones7139
      @kameronjones7139 Год назад +3

      Yeah there are tons of guys that could make something private and encrypted for you

  • @matthewparsons9407
    @matthewparsons9407 Год назад +12

    To Muta's last point, even if Anom hadn't been used, criminals would have found other ways to commit crimes. If the FBI is at fault for allowing bad things to happen to get evidence, what should have been done instead?

  • @terubokmasin3247
    @terubokmasin3247 Год назад +5

    When Muta mentioned criminal influencers, I immediately think of a certain wrestling drink seller & a doxxing thief.

  • @cluesagi
    @cluesagi Год назад +6

    Honestly even if you are clueless about tech, how someone looks at a phone with "Totally not an FBI honeypot, trust me bro" practically written on the box and thinks it's legit is beyond me

  • @somerandomguywithakeyboard2804
    @somerandomguywithakeyboard2804 Год назад +36

    Muta isn't surviving new years

  • @Prophetofthe8thLegion
    @Prophetofthe8thLegion Год назад +45

    The FBI and committing horrific crimes against humanity never gets old.

    • @x-shift8937
      @x-shift8937 Год назад

      Oh yeah criminals murder in cold blood: not horrific.
      FBI potentially looked at someone’s messages in the process of catching the person responsible for the cold blooded murder: horrific

  • @robloxer6808
    @robloxer6808 Год назад +30

    The FBI is also the world's largest distributor of CP

  • @spiritualanarchist8162
    @spiritualanarchist8162 Год назад +4

    This must be the product with the most pissed off customers ever ! I remember seeing this on the news in the Netherlands. Whole organisations got arrested within a few days and then the whole story about these fake -phones came out.

  • @AppalachianMountaineer1863
    @AppalachianMountaineer1863 Год назад +6

    It’s shocking the amount of people that still fall for something that is blatantly a honey pot

  • @differentcow6645
    @differentcow6645 Год назад +2

    Some ordinary gamers one of the best channels on RUclips Fr

  • @mobesi4407
    @mobesi4407 Год назад +3

    this is both pretty rad, and pretty scary at the same time. this whole story sounds like flavor text from the cyberpunk 2020 PHB.

  • @OhMeGaGS
    @OhMeGaGS Год назад +5

    The way I see it, they let the investigation run so long even though crimes and harm were continuing, in order to dig as deep as possible to get the higher ups rather than small fries. Get a dealer off the street, another dealer will just pop back up. Get the dealer that supplies the dealers, that supply the dealers on the street, and your impact is exponentially bigger. Though I get that this is very much morally questionable. As soon as they arrested a single person and used the evidence gathered from Anom in court, the jig would be up.

  • @phillpowered9757
    @phillpowered9757 Год назад +4

    "the app was hidden throughout the calculator application"
    this sounded way too familiar, I heard this in a Vice document about a dealer from the EU.... guess he locked up now 💀
    "The Dangerous Rise of Contaminated Weed | High Society"

  • @outmybody9982
    @outmybody9982 Год назад +4

    Keep the bangers coming muta

  • @chrishh1
    @chrishh1 Год назад +3

    I can't take the idea of a criminal influencer seriously. Imagine them having videos n shit on announcements or whatever and starting off like "heyyy criminalllsss!" 💀

  • @SoberDadHighOnLife
    @SoberDadHighOnLife Год назад +1

    I love watching your videos because at least when I know it’s your videos the information is correct, you’ve looked into everything 100%, you went through every angle and every scenario. Your videos have no bullshit in them.

    • @IsoMacintosh
      @IsoMacintosh Год назад

      he didn't mention the part where FBI broke the law.
      FBI did wiretapping on Finnish citizens without court order, that is 100 percent against the law.

  • @rbgtk
    @rbgtk Год назад +3

    Soooo, remember that meme of my FBI agent reading with me... You mean if I used that app, I could actually have an FBI bestie and could have sent him my footsies?

  • @ShammusWammus
    @ShammusWammus Год назад +3

    You would be shocked how much haggling is involved in the criminal enterprise. If you accept a deal upfront as-is, you get a target on your back

  • @grapeseed427
    @grapeseed427 Год назад +6

    Child support, student loans, and my ex/baby momma seem to have joined forces and installed similar programs on my devices 😂

  • @JohnSmithIlIlIlIl
    @JohnSmithIlIlIlIl Год назад +6

    Me to my cousin: "Hey, You want a Cheese Pizza?"
    FBI: He's talking about...!
    Me: **Goes to Dominoes and literally gets a Cheese Pizza.**
    FBI: ...Oh...

    • @anadventfollower1181
      @anadventfollower1181 Год назад +2

      *Goes to Dominoes to buy a cheese pizza, because that's the only pizza the baby cousin tolerates with*
      FBI: GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT GODDMANIT, so close 🥺

  • @Evan-lr8nq
    @Evan-lr8nq Год назад +5

    About 5 years ago on a reddit forum, I said that the Gov was doing something like this and all the "experts" on the forum said it would never happen, its too much work for the Gov to do.

    • @cloudy_xDD
      @cloudy_xDD Год назад

      Edward Snowden easily proved that statement wrong- long before that Reddit post. The US government has a scarily good surveillance system and connections with telecom providers to back it. Forget legality when it comes to government surveillance because they frequently break the law to get information on people.

  • @NetPredators
    @NetPredators Год назад +3

    Just so you know, all these VPN services are honeypots as well.
    "Let's convince all these people to funnel their illegal activities through our servers"

  • @dirkboi6844
    @dirkboi6844 Год назад +4

    much love muta 🙏

  • @renko2422
    @renko2422 Год назад +12

    wow! who else is just totally flabberghasted? i really just could've never ever seen this coming! completely broadsided!

  • @Baranaiidaa
    @Baranaiidaa 11 месяцев назад +2

    There was actually a swedish murder case where a guys "friends" planned a hit on him through this app. Unfortunately the swedish police wasnt let in on it by the FBI until a few weeks later so the person got murdered. Fortunately they could use the chats as evidence to convict the murderers and the guy who sent out the hit, but the guy still lost his life. The chats in that case where they planned the murder are public now and very disturbing to read.

  • @redblake66
    @redblake66 Год назад +6

    The only way not to get caught is to create your own system, thankfully I was only criminal in my drug induced psychosis, otherwise I’d be on a watchlist

  • @iamhugry
    @iamhugry Год назад +1

    Imagine using an app as an criminal and the twitter acc says, were totally not the feds that your trynna escape...

  • @brandonjones8059
    @brandonjones8059 Год назад +5

    lol I’ve heard of something like this before this whole idea was literally an episode of the Blacklist

  • @madafaka8291
    @madafaka8291 Год назад +1

    The dude being called jun tao like the main antagonist in rush hour is just *chef kiss*

  • @SeanDSarcasm
    @SeanDSarcasm Год назад +16

    It feels like the people catching the criminals are enabling them

    • @x-shift8937
      @x-shift8937 Год назад +1

      Really? Who do you think would’ve caught them if they were using Facebook messenger instead?

  • @fordsmith1774
    @fordsmith1774 11 месяцев назад +1

    This story is going to make an epic 10 episode show one day

  • @itsyaboitroi2941
    @itsyaboitroi2941 Год назад +3

    As a student going into cybersecurity and a son of 2 police officers, i really enjoyed and agree with your takes on this whole situation. Good vid as always

  • @warcusj
    @warcusj 11 месяцев назад +2

    With the "I have nothing to hide" argument, what if new laws are passed? For example, with the recent roe v wade abortion overturning, many people suddenly have something to hide, and previous chat logs are being used against them.

  • @Noob-oh6hw
    @Noob-oh6hw Год назад +7

    yeah of course they did

  • @vx8431
    @vx8431 Год назад +2

    Im suprised it took this long for Muta to cover this, remember the shitshow when it was going down. Criminals were scrambling to do away with suspected snitches and it was a mess. One of the most prominent "influencers" in this whole thing is still on the run with an Interpol Red notice on him to this day.

    • @vx8431
      @vx8431 Год назад +2

      Update he was arrested in Istanbul a few days ago

    • @Nymphadora45uvyu
      @Nymphadora45uvyu Год назад

      @@vx8431who? I wanna look into it

  • @IsoMacintosh
    @IsoMacintosh Год назад +5

    26:15
    I mean FBI was literally breaking the law in this case so it's no surprise they didn't mind others breaking laws either.

  • @fish.e
    @fish.e 11 месяцев назад

    Now we know. Muta is True Neutral alignment.

  • @JustMe88419
    @JustMe88419 Год назад +5

    Maybe this is a stupid question and has an obvious answer, but I am going to ask anyways because this is something that I don't believe I have heard almost anyone talk about when discussing encrypted traffic and data with things such as VPNs or just any encrypted communication systems that propose their main purpose is to hide your data. A lot of these companies, to my knowledge (I could be wrong), don't have open source systems for obvious reasons. How do we as consumers really know that what these companies and entities claim is completely true? How do we know that an encrypted messaging system, VPN, or anything in between is actually private and the company that hosts these systems don't just simply siphon off our data without our knowledge? I just feel like this field is really full of very sketchy entities and there, to my knowledge, isn't really a way to verify their claims privately. Again I could be missing something and completely off the mark but that's why I am asking.

    • @Marty_YouTuber
      @Marty_YouTuber Год назад +1

      Free and open-source software (FOSS) is a term used to refer to groups of software consisting of both free software and open-source software[a] where anyone is freely licensed to use, copy, study, and change the software in any way, and the source code is openly shared so that people are encouraged to voluntarily improve the design of the software.[3] This is in contrast to proprietary software, where the software is under restrictive copyright licensing and the source code is usually hidden from the users.

    • @Marty_YouTuber
      @Marty_YouTuber Год назад +1

      Because every single piece of software and operating system you use is proprietary and You don't check the source code of the software you use and you don't host your own software. like self host your own software server.

  • @relatenation2825
    @relatenation2825 Год назад

    Let’s gooo been looking forward to this!

  • @DakotaZ162
    @DakotaZ162 Год назад +7

    I just assume everybodies fbi now tbh lol

  • @TWEEMASTER2000
    @TWEEMASTER2000 11 месяцев назад

    really fascinating video thanks muda

  • @chad9446
    @chad9446 Год назад +3

    some german convos on the app became big memes in germany because theyre so goofy

  • @hirotakasugi4891
    @hirotakasugi4891 Год назад +2

    These people don't realize the only safe way to communicate is via carrier pigeon, carrier dolphins, or letter in a bottle.

  • @SirBaited
    @SirBaited Год назад +6

    To catch a criminal you must become the criminal

    • @RrraverCrow
      @RrraverCrow Год назад

      The FBI is a criminal organization already so they’re already there.

  • @kashinimeyo
    @kashinimeyo Год назад +1

    “Criminal influencers” is a crazy thing to say

  • @skeletonentertainment4201
    @skeletonentertainment4201 Год назад +35

    You know who else ran the largest criminal messaging network!?
    *MY MOM!*

  • @BaldAndCurious
    @BaldAndCurious Год назад +2

    More like a BlackList episode. Which they actually had. The episode title being, surprise surprise, "Arcane Network". Which was a stupid episode because the task force featured in the show didn't know the network was actually an FBI project.

  • @sapphail2410
    @sapphail2410 Год назад +17

    I'm not weeping for criminals, but it's a bit messed up that law enforcement were just allowed to shut that other service down like that. That's the government effectively saying 'you have no right to privacy.'

    • @x-shift8937
      @x-shift8937 Год назад +10

      What other service down. You mean the leaders of the other services that were criminals themselves? Lmao wth is your logic?

  • @friedeggsareawesome
    @friedeggsareawesome Год назад +1

    I honestly have just got used to the snooping, but I find it annoying that I can't buy a novelty poop knife off amazon (i blame justin whang ) without them thinking I waste my money on complete garbage, now I get advertised crap.

  • @The_Wendigo
    @The_Wendigo Год назад +2

    “Hello CIA.. I mean Customer service.”

  • @jockeyjeon9532
    @jockeyjeon9532 Год назад

    Muta giving a shout out to Hugh Jeffreys brought a smile to my face :)

  • @m.gredemptor2610
    @m.gredemptor2610 Год назад +8

    Some Ordinary Gamer : The FBI ran the largest honeypot sting-ops, I won't be complaining about scumbags facing prison time.
    Some Ordinary Batman : But causing small harm still outweighs the good, you shouldn't become a criminal to stop criminals.
    Me : watching mutha playing the bad-cop and bat-cop all by him-self ... : O

  • @miracookie444
    @miracookie444 Год назад +1

    I think this is a great way to catch criminals. I hope they do more of that and don't use backdoors/vulnerabilities of things normal citizen/businesses use. Such backdoors/vulnerabilities should be reported asap and not be used for years by the gov to catch someone and risk something like ip-theft.

  • @nexhep
    @nexhep Год назад +35

    re: the fbi "sitting around and letting crime happen a while"... eh. investigation gotta happen somehow, and this appears to have been the best viable option, since the authorities aren't clairvoyant. yeah, some messed up things happened, but it was kept much lower than if the gangs were to have gotten away with it

    • @IsoMacintosh
      @IsoMacintosh Год назад +3

      it shouldnt have been a viable option since it's illegal

  • @maxiero9317
    @maxiero9317 Год назад

    Bless your day Brother

  • @graye2799
    @graye2799 Год назад +3

    13:30. im sure those charges aren't bunk to destroy another privacy platform.

  • @ingi6034
    @ingi6034 Год назад +1

    i lierally thought of telegram when i saw the title of the video :')

  • @DesertFarmer22
    @DesertFarmer22 Год назад +5

    Does this mean the FBI gets charged for aiding in all of the crimes?

  • @cyrilio
    @cyrilio Год назад +2

    Dutch law enforcement and customs have massive private messaging networks. It’s crazy

  • @graye2799
    @graye2799 Год назад +3

    Internet conversations should be treated like mail is.

    • @Wicked_Knight
      @Wicked_Knight Год назад +1

      Depending on where the mail is from and if anything was detected inside, mail frequently gets searched. You know, because of the illegality of mailing drugs and firearms.

    • @graye2799
      @graye2799 Год назад +3

      @Wicked_Knight correspondence between 2 individuals is highly protected under law. They can't just search your mail for the words you type. Also legal to mail guns if you do it right.

    • @Wicked_Knight
      @Wicked_Knight Год назад +1

      @graye2799 you go do that then... you don't need to believe me or anyone. Tho I'd love to see this law you speak of because I promise you it's pertaining civilians not the federal government putts

    • @graye2799
      @graye2799 Год назад +3

      @@Wicked_Knight If you do the proper paperwork, you can mail guns.

    • @Wicked_Knight
      @Wicked_Knight Год назад +1

      @@graye2799 Again, DO IT.

  • @as0horizen
    @as0horizen Год назад +1

    bro can somebody talk to youtube this ad is throwing me off why have a vpn if I cant even block ads it defeats the entire pourpose.