Is Google About To Block Adblockers?
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No matter how hard Google tries to disable ad blockers, I will still go out of my way to find a way to block their ads.
OperaGX haven't you heard!
I have so many adblockers and even a pi hole. I’ve not seen an advert anywhere on the internet, regardless of browser, in at least 6 years.
If I could make it happen, I’d design AR glasses that even block adverts in the street on billboards. I just really fucking hate all adverts of all kinds.
github is a hero
@@Surms41 OperaGX is Chromium, wouldn't it be affected too?
It's a matter of principle at this point.
You know it's terrible when Google cares about how to block adblockers more than how to get rid of scam ads, naughty ads, ads that install malwares/PUPs. If millions of people get hacked because of Google Ads, you know who should be blamed.
Yeah they should be fined hundreds of billions of dollars
Agreed, these guys are not seeing the danger they are putting the end user into, and if something happens, we will hold accountable Google for this.
You have funny name but you make a very good point. I've had AV actually flag RUclips as a suspicious site before because there were a few ads that just happened to somehow download malware. Yep, those ads seem totally safe... Not a risk to consumers in the slightest.
Sarcasm btw.
Not to mention the endless financial scams.
i cant wait for millions to get hacked and see google be found innocent of wrongdoing in the courts for reasons
Ad blockers are crucial part of added security. The Fbi even says its recommended to have one
They should get sued, especially RUclips by extent
Canadian government even says to block ads and report them
If the feds are saying it then wow
Course they got their own back door methods to spy on you
Fr?
Well RUclips is even not obeying the law, at least in EU, since the script they run to check for adblockers is illegal here.
One of the biggest issues is that you can watch youtube videos WITHOUT an account. Meaning you never agreed to their TOS, so you shouldnt be subject to their TOS. Yet they want to inject their spyware into your browser even when you never made an account with them. They should be sued into oblivion.
The ad block detection does not work if you're not logged in actually. That's what I do all the time, I just open an incognito tab and its all good.
@@jmanner3430 I tried incognito and strangely I was still getting the pop-up. I don't know why it was different for me.
@@jmanner3430 Been just using Brave instead of Chrome; the in-built adblock works great.
Here's the thing. Adblocking is NOT against TOS at all.
exactly adblockers save your time and your computer@@damica7546
I find great irony in this.
Google says they're doing this for security, but then they allow malware ads on youtube and put fake versions of software in search results before the real ones.
Baffling.
"Rules for thee, none for me."
Hypocricy isn't a bug in corpos, it's mandated study before employment, lol. 😏
We need the EU to force google to manually curate ads.
@@wamingoone thing the EU has done right is it’s internet privacy laws, it’s insane to me that the United States hasn’t already implemented laws like this.
Financial security
dont forget all the scammers and falsely advertised mobile games.
Advertisements actually have the opposite effect on me. If an advert is annoying I will make an effort to consciously remember it and go out of my way to never buy their product or use their service, ever.
I'd be okay with old school banner ads instead. Just don't stop me watching what I want to watch.
cant watch vtuber clips without a disney movie spot every 20 minutes
Honestly, kind of agreed. Back when they had banner ads, I was perfectly fine with them. I didn't even bother using an adblocker back then because ads were such a non-issue on RUclips. Now it has become an issue, and I can't wait to watch google backpedal on this decision once the decades of mistakes they've made as well as their overall incompetence finally starts to catch up with them
Im starting to think that if they keep adding more ads, even the clueless users will not remember the products. Maybe someday…
there needs to be a reset on the whole ad industry business. but i don't see how it can happen.
vetted ads without tracking are ok. i don't really like video ads.
@@szymex22 I think you're right. I have ad blockers on everything except my TV, and I watch it from bed every night to fall asleep. I've seen the same unskippable ad for about a year, every day, for a yoghurt and still have no idea what brand it is.
Fun fact: I didn't start using an Ad blocker until I got two ads, and when I skipped the first instead of just skipping the whole set of ads, it just went to the second ad.
I was willing to put up with ads. I was willing to put up with two ads. But RUclips kept pushing it further and further.
I've always used adblock myself, ever since they started introducing unskippable ads mid-video. I was fine with a single ad at the start and the end, I was fine with banner ads, but when they started introducing unskippable ads and surveys, that's when it went too far for me. I understand they're a business, but you have to consider the fact that it's *google* of all companies. They already make a shit load of money harvesting user data (without the user's consent might I add.) Not to mention they've been basically running the platform into the ground as it is. They want money? They need to fix the site, and do it correctly, like how it was pre-adpocalypse
even the ads themselfs are not safe most ads are literally free robux/crypto scam ads that's how bad it is.
I started using an ad blocker when Google shown me scams and risky looking content like some random "sexy AI girls" application. Like dude... Shovel real products up there, don't hit me with stuff that could make me look like a creep or lead me to a company that could steal all my data through their shady website and ruin my life indefinitely. :)
i started using adblock cause in 20 minute video i gotten 12 ads and it was turbo annoying
now ads are adware that contains scam and fetishes to absolutely zero interest
but google likes it then you ignore the ads or go AFK then it rolls
does the company benefit from my ignoring ads of course not so adblock just skips that problem and save time and basically a layer of protection
It's like what REALLY happens when you put a frog in slowly boiling water. More people have been using ad-blockers as things get worse and worse.
It would be interesting to find out how many Google employees use Adblockers themselves, or how many avoid ads with a "bypass privilege".
they 100% surely have free if not atleast employee discounted youtube premium
Can you picture that. Just think about a tool for developer to avoid their ads.
Well of course they do. It's always "Rules for thee but not for me, do as I say and not as I do" with these elites. Even Mark Zuckerberg himself was caught on camera putting tape over his laptop webcam.
i worked at google 2019 through 2021 and got fired due to Covid complications, and yes we used ad blockers in company computers and personally I still use them .
There is nothing more annoying than forced advertisement.
@@koi8440but you didn't get a pass like people are saying.
If Goggle, and RUclips didn’t put ads every three minutes Maybe their Users wouldn’t be even using Adblockers.
And if they didn't censor and abuse their creators more people would be willing to pay for premium
If their ads weren't full of idiot charlatans trying to convince me of some stupid scam, tried to horny bait or tried to send me to malware sites I wouldn't mind as much.
@@anonony9081 oh yeah 100%.
Maybe if ads didn't exist I wouldn't use an adblocker
Or if their ads weren’t obnoxious or scams…
Years ago I was perfectly fine with just 1 skippable ad every video. It was reasonable. They get their money, I get to enjoy my video. Today’s Ads are intrusive and pervasive, the only way I can see this being resolved is for google to revert back to reasonable ads.
And then nobody will notice because they're all permanently blocked. 🤣
It's because Google and Alphabet are publicly traded. Line must go up no matter what. Growth for growth's sake.
@@runeheadah people will notice, a lot of my friends and family members doesn’t even know what adblock is, they just complain every time they watch a video.
@@USS_Sentinel with where this is going they wouldn’t grow at all, they’ll have to cut their losses.
There are other business models possible. They don't want to explore them. Increasing the amount of ads is not viable anymore.
This is why we *NEED* anti-trust laws because otherwise these companies will do WHATEVER they want and we can't do anything about it. Not even boycott because the services are THAT big.
WE HAVE ANTI-TRUST LAWS AND THEY DO FUCKING NOTHING BECAUSE THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THESE LAWS ARE IN THE POCKETS OF THE PEOPLE THE LAWS ARE MEANT TO PROTECT US FROM! Sorry I'm just really mad because you're right, but there's virtually nothing we can do about itl
Google is not a monopoly. not at all
We have anti trust laws. Nobody has enforced them or only selectively enforced them since Reagan.
@@enderagent chrome makes up 80% of browser use. opera, edge, and brave is just chrome reskins
yes, they are a monopoly
@@enderagentheh?
I also love how at the same time they blocked adblockers, they updated the "Skip" button on ads to be smaller and harder to press.
RUclips at it again and their anti user friendly changes to the user interface
That's ok. They add stupid shit like "play something" buttons where a right handed user simply cannot avoid nailing it constantly.
There's always the "uninstall updates" thing... but.. oh yeah, THAT'S right... Android simply doesn't *care* that you've gone in and nuked any kind of updating and continuously tries to re-update it anyway!
Absolutely beautiful.
Google is a piece of $#¡+. It's that simple.
I am fundamentally against the onslaught of advertising that the digital world has become accustomed to. I HATE being sold products I could give less than a shit about. Or being sold something I ALREADY OWN.
Not to mention how easily susceptible older people are to fake phishing links for common websites. I installed addblockers on my grandparents PC and sure enough, I haven’t heard anything about them getting a virus for literally 3years.
First step is to ban billboards in cities
But... but... what if you really need a second toilet seat? Maybe you happen to collect toilet seats? 😂
THIS. I've actively begun spouting my absolute hatred of advertisement over the last few years. It's a soulless endeavor, purely there just to milk the unsuspecting public of their money. It's always about bending the truth. It's a business built on lying and dishonesty and I want no part in it. I'm surprised everyone allows it to continue unabated, the complete lack of transparency. There used to be some honesty to it, advertising products to people who actually want and need it. Advertising products in appropriate places for that product, not just everywhere, all the time, all at once.
It's like those signs on bus stops "advertising works because you're looking at this sign" they just miss the whole point, it's that mentality of "if I keep shooting my shot I'm bound to hit the target eventually" and they miss the part where they were supposed to be advertising to the people who would actually buy their product, not the people who have to take the bus to get around. It's tone deaf in every way.
Good example of advertising being dishonest, Microsoft. Xbox controllers have had problems with the bumpers for years. Elite 2 controller comes out advertising how they made them stronger, reinforced the bumper so this wouldn't happen anymore. Cut to a year later when the bumper stopped working for no reason. I'm not some hulk throwing the controller or anything either, just through regular use it broke. I will NEVER believe any more ads from them, that was when I was still naive enough to believe companies at their word. Since then I've just watched enough happen in the games industry alone to realize as long as their trash makes them money they'll keep making trash, charging top dollar for it and advertising it as 10/10.
@@MysticRedbeard This is precisely why I roll my eyes at every single comment going "I was willing to tolerate ads until-"
No. Fuck ads. Fuck the idea of tolerating them, completely and wholeheartedly. I'll tolerate a fellow man on the street, standing around in front of his humble small town business, trying to get my attention for a sec to sell me something. But on the internet, small businesses barely exist, drowned out by countless multi-million companies that don't need any more money and who exist by sucking miles out of every single inch millions of workers and unsuspecting public get mugged out of on the daily. Reminding me of that every time they jumpscare my ass to loudly sell me something when I click on *_anything,_* trying to take miles out of my inches too.
Again: No.
And again: Fuck ads.
@@Maverick2736 Right there with ya. I go out of my way spending way longer than what it would've taken to watch the ad just to avoid having to watch it. I hate ads with every fiber of my being. If I could at all about that product I'd look for it. Me seeing an ad for something just makes me want to use something else just out of spite.
Turned off my adblocker for the first time the other day. Not even 30 minutes past before I got a banner ad FOR an adblocker on this forsaken site, and the irony was too much for me that I burst into tears laughing.
They always pretend that they make these changes to improve the site and the community, removing dislikes, preventing blockers, restricting certain content. But their moderation always falls flat when its their own pockets that benefit from it. Wonder why?
And taking down Louis Rossmann videos that cut against their greedy ambitions
@@leonidas14775they did what?!
dude same, I've been getting the same banner ads
To be fair, they are making it better. Just not for the people who they *should* be making it better for. Screw the end users, where's our money? That's Google's motto nowadays.
Absolutely wild if Google opens the offense against adblockers.
All they have to do is curate their ads. Like linear TV does. You know, to make sure people aren't exposed to shady shit or shady domains. There have been times where ads could literally install malware if you had the wrong browser. If the US Federal Govt is too lazy to curate internet ads, the one providing the infrastructure for ads normally should. But nope, let's just spit on the commonwealth folks for not wanting their PCs - or worse, livelihoods - endangered with shady ads!
curating their ads would make the multi-billion dollar company lose a little cash, and we cant be having that now
But think of the shareholders!!!!!
Why can't they just not be on the vids. I'd be okay if the ad was on the side or a little popup box which is what YT used to have when it first had ads. I literally don't want to see or hear the bullshit, I don't want it wasting my seconds. They steal enough of my data where I shouldn't even have to deal with this bs so the least they can do is not be annoying.
@MasquedJustice doesn't youtube already lose them money?
@@shortyorc121 YT has been loosing money this whole time. I doubt ads would even be enough to even it out.
I would genuinely love to see Google try... Not just because I want governments to crack down on them, but because I want to see them lose massive amounts of money from the complete inevitable failure this venture is. Anything that brings them down from being a monopoly is a win in my book
At the end of the day, these lunatics think they own the internet and even their users' computers.
Governments and big tech are in the same boat, they want total control over everyone and are criminals, thiefs and more.
Firefox is the next logical step. We're about to see Mozilla overtaking Google just because they decided to go full "muh corporate greed knows no limits"
well the problem is that alphabet is the largest source of income by far for mozilla so if they decide to cut funding it won't be great
although they do have enough saved up to run for a couple years
Google chrome dominates by being default browser
Ask Microsoft what happened with IE
Firefox has gone downhill so much in the last decade but it's still slightly better than chrome
@@ZeroXSEEDyeah but this is a different world. The federal government seems to have zero interest in pursuing the antitrust laws.
Pale moon ftw
Google never fails to shoot themselves in the foot with every decision
yes
exactly, i moved from chrome to opera to firefox in just 2 weeks. i WILL NOT use chrome if adblock doesnt work there
yes the problem is 99% people on earth using google
Do they have any feet left at all?
Then act like it was a good idea
Fighting the adblockers will not make them disappear, it will strengthen them. The only way to defeat adblockers is to offer official models that would represent a better option than adblockers.
It's like pirating vs paying. People pirate content because the service you get from paying sucks. You get a better experience pirating so why pay? Same with adblockers. Adblockers offer a better experience than viewing the ads so why would anyone not block ads?
Where I live RUclips premium costs more than Netflix, if it was like 5$ to just go ad-free I'd do that in a heartbeat, it's crazy it's so expensive when an adblocker is free.
Can't really defeat them as they are free *and* gives better user experience for their price.
There isn't anything better than free. Ublock origin is the best out of all of the current ad blockers in my opinion. As long as there's free adblockers that work there will not be any better option. $13.99 for just no ads on youtube when i already pay my isp $50+ a month to simply access the internet is unacceptable.The only things i pay for that is ad supported is hulu and disney+ bundled and then philo which is a cable replacement that is $25 a month which is reasonable and has pretty much all the channels i want.
@@ambiarock590 adblock is not pirating. It's called blocking content you don't want on your computer much like how a content blocker keeps your children from accessing adult websites or other content you don't allow. We have the right to decide what is allowed or not on our devices that we literally paid for and own. Ik with me personally ads are spyware. There's also a term called adware which means malicious ads which the internet is full of. Scammers have them all over the place.
Whether Google tries this or not, at the end of the day, ads are annoying and people hate them. This single fact will make people go out of their way to constantly find new ways to avoid them. Its only inevitable.
The crazy thing is that they could get people to pay for youtube if their premium was way cheaper.
If they block ad block extensions in their browser they're going to help smaller web browsers gain a bigger audience. Once again, YT is not thinking things through beyond short term gain.
And they think it'll help them out with money!? 🤣
I have been mildly annoyed with Chrome's performance for years, but two weeks of this new ad bullshit and playing whack-a-mole with various ad blockers stopping working before being updated and fucking about with work arounds, I just straight up switched to Opera GX.
Good job, Google. Say goodbye to your browser market share I guess.
The whole reason I've abandoned Chrome for Opera GX.
@@DireWolfDevil They seriously do not need the money. Go and look at all the products and services they own. A good example I can give is phone manufacturers needing to buy a GMS license to include Google's services on their Android installation. People are turning a blind eye to the real point behind this... They just want to make a point. They are failing and it's entertaining to watch. :)
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Using RUclips without an adblocker is literally incomprehensible in modern times. Once you ublock, you don’t go back. This is a major positive. If we can convert as many people to adblockers as humanly possible, it’s entirely likely youtube will lose massive viewership and usership in general if they try to fight against adblockers. Stuff like odysee and peertube will take off.
I went to check out odysee and I haven't seen so many n-bombs and antisemitism since 2012-16 lmfao
There's swastikas in profile pictures hahaha gdamn
Funny, because if those did take off, they'd eventually be headed in the exact same situation as Google. It's inevitable.
@@HipixOFFICIAL is there any way to have some sort of freedom without allowing the most vile racism possible? Is there a middle ground between absolute no mean words ever and open and proud antisemitism??
@@HipixOFFICIAL As George Orwell describes it very well in his book (The Animal Farm), nothing changes.
Those who speak out against corruption end up becoming just as corrupt when they take power.
@@vorbo01 I think now that I know there are ways to ban and moderate it, I vastly prefer not seeing open racism or antisemitism. Like, I got to be able to watch muta with some spicy jokes without seeing unironic swastikas in the comment section.
Google blocking adblockers is like trying to block a bug infestation with a plastic spider. I wonder how this would work out.
Tbh spiders are pretty good at getting other bugs while keeping relatively to themself
Well spider isn't insect ...
It also is pretty much picking a fight with the eu
That’s an insult to spiders
All the more reasons why I use other browsers. No Chromium based browsers. We demand privacy!
Google thinks that they can permanently end the "scourge of ad blockers", but there is always a way to circumvent the circumvention. Also, on other note, Muta needs to discuss the massive Optus outage that occurred about a week ago. It is a wild story that continues to grow as, at the time of the video, the CEO was forced to resign because of her company's ignorance and negligence.
I wonder how many customers gave optus the boot. I know I did acter the outage.
Pain in the ass finding another mobile or nbn provider that doesn't run on the optus network.
That Optus outage was definitely sketchy, scenarios like that can ABSOLUTELY not happen under any circumstance.. It had to have been an attack on their systems but I have not had a deep look into it or anything on the how.
That is kinda meta if you think about it.
An Adware blocking an Adblocker for blocking their ads.
Adblock^3
I would love to see Google go through with this and cause other browsers to become more popular
anti adblock systems dont detect adblock through the browser you use, they detect adblock through checking mechanisms. addons in browser often leave behind clues they are installed, tampermonkey scripts similarly can be blocked. which is why you should just firewall ad hosts and never get ads again on any program not just browser, without annoying anti adblock systems stopping you
they'll just block other browsers entirely from their services... Tune the anti-trust lawsuits, which they'll win because they can outlawyer anyone except maybe Microsoft and Apple and those two will no doubt get a special deal.
When I got the 3 video warning, I just downloaded Firefox and have been using that for RUclips. Google/RUclips can suck it.
That'd be great, promote Firefox the last non chromium browser. Shit like this is exactly why I stopped using Chrome 3 years ago and I'm so glad I did because Google gets worse every year.
Doesn't matter because of how many web services use Google API and a number of the alternative browsers use Chromium. It's the price of having no term limit congress people. We have 5 congresspeople (was 6 before Feinstein died) that were born before the chocolate chip cookie was invented. These are the people making legislation for the internet and will be for AI.
Between things like this and popular movies/games, this year feels like it emphasized the widening gap between angry/informed consumers and the big companies that became used to us accepting their garbage by the shovelful
As I keep saying, google's attempt at blocking ad-blockers is a battle they ultimately can't win. No matter what they do, people will always find a way around them, no matter what. And they can't fight everyone who making these ad-blockers, no matter how powerful they are.
If anything, I expect this to be one of those "strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine" situations
Not just that down to the fundementals of how networks work its always gonna be possible
You think so? Ya the bleeding edge will always find ways but the more complex the workaround the less people will bother.
A good example is 'The Pirate Bay' they just celebrated 25 yrs...
Imagine Pirate Bay and other torrent sites stop allowing users to visit the website with ad block enabled. 🤣🤣@@nem447
The people who make the adblockers will always find a way to circumvent this.
Heroes.
@@mr.s5165 Just a lot smarter than the trained monkeys Google employes.
If they block adblocks i think the whole internet will revolt
And they would get sued into oblivion by the entire eu
We will all just move to ff
Sadly, you overestimate how many people use adblockers. The majority of internet users probably don't even know what an adblocker is.
@@sirthatsillegalmaybe 10 years ago
@@sirthatsillegal I think you're the one who'd be surprised.
The thing is, I realize the importance of advertising to businesses. I completely understand it and I don't mind a little advertising here and there. What I cannot stand (and the reason I use ad blockers) is invasive advertising that interferes with the functionality of the website or that blocks my view of the website I want to view.
Also, I am so very tired of advertisers trying to control everything. They are the reason we lost the "dislike" button on RUclips. They are the ones demanding such heavy censorship on RUclips. Advertising companies need to stop being so aggressive.
I'm actually glad they got rid of the dislike button. Now I don't have to see comments by butthurt juveniles making passive aggressive remarks and bitching about the dislikes on a video they like.
Can't wait to install something that blocks the blocker for my adblocker!
the adblocker blocker blocker. cant wait!
That's just NoScript lol
cant wait to install the blocker of the blocker of the blocker of the blocker....
Blocking ads is the same thing as not looking at billboards on the highway. Yes people paid for it to be there but your eyes need to be on the road when your driving.
Except for not at all. When you get distracted from a youtube ad at home, you don't risk your life along with others because you weren't paying attention
@@TchSktch Thanks for confirming what he said, ads are awful, they are even worse on the roads.
Plus like is it not some muted tragedy that we cannot escape advertisements no matter where we go? Is it not already horrible enough? And they now want to make it worse, because they are owed that they should make money off of us, apparently
@@TchSktchI mean I think a virus effecting tons of people is equivalent to an add causing tragedies in traffick
Imagine malicious ads paved on to the road itself, hidden as road spike strips, popping your tires.
Google: "Don't be evil"
Also google: lowers the overall security of the internet.
Well, they changed that slogan for a reason...
@BillyViBritannia one of those examples of something vaguely ominous becoming incredibly ominous once removed.
they changed their slogan to "do the right thing" . telling isn't it?
@@KokkoroConnoisseur Very
they changed their slogan a few years back. They removed the "n't."
I think Google destroying adblockers will result in some people switching, which will generate noise, and eventually more and more will switch until Chrome loses almost all of its market share.
I already switched to firefox early this year when they first announced it. I recommend to everyone to do the same.
I like how they constantly cite security as their reason for doing this kind of stuff. It's funny how the very same ads they push are often where most malware comes from with things like fake download buttons or redirection ads. I installed ublock and now the only security software and Anti malware software I need is windows defender and windows firewall.
"we're doing it for their own good!"
"we're doing it for safe and secure user data! We don't need to collect it, but we will!"
I just installed adguard on my mums computer because she clicked on a malware link
So what you're saying is, nothing's changed in 20 years 🤣
I always feel terrible for older people when I see what they have to deal with without an ad blocker it's like using a computer in the late 90's when you open an email and then a thousand links open on your computer
I was just given a perfectly good laptop because it was so caked with adware and advertising absolutely everywhere on the thing my aunt couldn't even use it. I wiped it and put Debian 12 on it and it runs so smooth. It's insane how bad its gotten and I thought it was bad in the late 90s early 2ks.. holy crap.
Older people generally remember the pre internet days of ads on tv. It’s not that hard to tune them out mentally or like in the past use them as a bathroom break or go get snacks break.
Ads have probably done irreperable harm to society anyways.
The corporate rape of culture has been insane.
Im glad that our modern culture is almost devoid of ads. I cant remember the last time iv SEEN an ad.
Im so glad the only ads you actually see on youtube, are actual sponsorship.
Google and RUclips clearly dont curate the type of ads you get anyways. And when they do, they litterally have it cater to litteral slop.
There will always be a way to circumvent all of this.
Agreed. It’s hilarious how they think this will stop us in our tracks. The exact opposite really.
easiest thing will just be switch to opera gx
No it’s pretty easy to make it impossible. For example they could make the ad part of the actual videos so to block the ad would require you to block the video.
I think the only reason they haven’t done it is because they want to slowly ease into it rather than change it abruptly.
@@jeremy85 You don't want ads so you use a chinese browser that had it's security questioned by many... An unexpected move.
@@Nib_Nob-t7x sponsorblock etc. already exists, which can detect those segments and skip them
I love how Mutahar makes everything so simple when he explains complex coding things.
The simple solution is to make ads not so damn intrusive and in your face, then we wouldn't feel the need to always block ads. But of course, websites just want to make as much money as possible by forcing as many ads on you as possible, hence why adblockers became necessary in the first place.
Not to mention actual malware type content hiding under ad systems lol
and don't forget EU advertising standards agencies, which are a LOT more strict than the US one.
99% of what's pushed as ads and "sponsored segments" on youtube and elsewhere on the internet isn't allowed on European TV, radio, and in European printed publications because it's known scams, fraudulent services, illegal services, and/or products that violate consumer protection laws.
Or, just make premium so cheap that its not worth bothering to find new ways to circumvent the ads
It's the tracking I hate not the ads. Thirteen years back installed ad blockers when I started seeing ads for things I had spoken about aloud in front of other people who had smartphones on my home PC. I carried no phone on me, it was in my bag. It was a scary wtf moment and I decided I did not want to see how pervasive the tracking was for my sanity's sake. So I block ads and tracking as best I can. It's creepy how nosy they are.
Right! I’ve always wondered how tf I’m seeing ads for some random thing I made a verbal joke about, never looked at on a phone or computer, nothing I would have EVER looked for in the past. Getting ads for it really tripped me out and that’s happened more than once. I always wonder if it’s just a coincidence my brain is making foreign connections with or if there really is some audio listening element that’s transferred to some ad bs. Like how Hey Siri is always listening… but how would that info make it over to Google from Apple… idk, I used to work for Apple and supposedly things like the hey siri recordings are deleted every 5 seconds - yet I remember a time when hey Siri false recordings were sent to a third party for “transcription” and come to find out they were hearing business deals, dru9 deals, people banging, all kinds of stuff. And it wasn’t even Apple employees, just some third party company.
Anyways. Yeah that stuff freaks me out too.
this is why I schedule time to search for inane, random, and awful things.
I poisoned the milk, but little baby google keeps on sucking.
demographic what?
demographic who?
chicka chicka slim shady
@@picklepixelpaperpepper8487 what
For what it is worth, currently ad blockers do not block devices listening in for personalised ads.... You can have an ad blocker running and still get those ads based on what you've talked about near your phone / PC or tablet device.
@@picklepixelpaperpepper8487 It's a myth that any 'poisoning the milk' helps... This stuff is based on more than just a few random searches or some random words you say. It is based on your web surfing profile, your age/gender, what you said recently, your personal email content and also some more fundamental things you can not change, like the season or day of the week, hour of the day etc. The suggestion that you can mess it up is ridiculous.
Shoutout to DuckDuckGo for being a good replacement for Google, shoutout to Firefox for being a good replacement for Chrome.
duck duck go sold out, ive used google chrome my entire life. I never wanted to move because of so much stuff that is attacheted to it. I didnt know that brave had a funciton to move your stuff over. So now ive been on brave for 3 months or so. And ill never go back. Ive been using chrome for so long, even this youtube account is about as old as youtube. Which is why I think i dont get the ad block ad blocker thing from youtube yet. Think im grandfathered in/
You know that DDG (and all other alternatives) are basically just asking google, bing and/or yandex and giving you their results right? It's why it's hard af to find anything no matter what you use.
@The_Real_Oppai_Samashoutouts to Brave
For me it'll always be brave & Firefox
There are better alternatives than those and absolutely no reason for anyone to still be using Google
Dude. I didn't even know about the volume master extension. This is amazing. Are there any other extensions you recommend? I feel like you should make a video on that alone tbh
It's as if allowing a major ad company to be the creators and backers of the most used web browser was NOT a good idea. Who woulda thought?
It's a great idea, I hope it will start an exodus from chrome. Chrome ruined all browsers
@retrocomputing Speak for yourself as soon as I heard of this the first time they tried I went to Firefox
That means users will just go elsewhere. RUclips have already shot themselves in the foot by making all their users aware that adblockers exist. hehehehe I know, but a lot of users didn't know about adblockers, but now they do, so YTs revenue dropped more. The internet is fluid, the corporations don't own it, it will evolve the way users want it to be. Plus, we will still have more good entertainment for free that we couldn't possibly consume in a day. Have a good one mate.
Firefox for life.
I mean do you have any other ways to make revenue?
The more Google tries to stop ad blockers the more I want to use them. I will always use ad blockers not only for ads but trackers and auto downloads as well.
So you're controlled by what others are doing like an angsty teenager instead of thinking independently
@@NJ-wb1cz this is such an angsty teenager thing to say
@@dependent-ability8631 cringe
@@dependent-ability8631 yep, copying other people's words reversing them instead of thinking independently is also a part of the same thing
@@NJ-wb1cz lol sure kid sure
“The forced influence of advertising has given us completely useless TV. You don't want that on the Net. But most on-line information providers need to attract advertising - which slows download times and clutters the screen with windows.”
Robert Cailliau
On 20 June 1789, the members of the French Third Estate took the Tennis Court Oath in the tennis court because the deputies were shocked to discover that the chamber door was locked and guarded by soldiers by order of King Louis XVI. Moving to a different building, their vowed "not to separate and to reassemble wherever necessary until the Constitution of the kingdom is established" became a pivotal event in the French Revolution.
Why am I telling you this? Because it feels like everyone just switching browsers from Chrome. No, this tactic has never worked
Stuff like this is why I don't understand how Chrome became so popular. There was inevitably going to be a reckoning between adblockers and a corporation that makes most of its money from advertising. That's why I stuck with using Firefox.
@MisterCaution - It's true, and it's not even just the acceptance of the privacy exchange, it's the acceptance of the lack of convenience. I'm a millennial and am so weirded out by my Gen Z acquaintances' use of Google, especially Google Docs. "I can't write right now, I can't reach the internet :(" is such a mindblowingly strange thing to say and the fact that there are multiple offline ways to write doesn't seem to register to them at all. It's too much trouble apparently. Add that to the number of times I will point out something creepy, invasive, or inconvenient that Google does, they will pause, say, "Huh, you're right, that IS sort of sus," AND THEN KEEP USING IT ANYWAY and I'm like you know what, you deserve what you get.
I nevee understood chromium based browsers. They always felt clunky.
Just make ads not literal scams. Google always chooses the option that harms the consumer
they pay the most for ads so youtube will make dirty money from those ads' already dirty money.
@@ScoffGuy yessirr :/
The reason I switched from Chrome to Firefox months ago was i guess that there was a rumor that Chrome was going to start allowing some ads to work around adblockers installed on their browsers (among other borderline security breaches/ selling info)
I love how their excuse is "stop malicious extensions stealing your information" it's almost as if open source software exists and getting your information stolen on the internet is a noob level grandma pit to fall in
I believe google would put their employees in danger. some peoples lively hoods require them to use adblocker as a security measure. this would be like blocking anti virus's so ads can work on your website. this action google is taking is the most anti consumer act they can do.
google would be much better served by working on purging the scam ads they constantly run that makes it absolutely necessary to use adblock to be able to use any of their products
No they wouldn't. Those scams pay google. Google knowingly allows them to run scam and dangerous malvertising schemes because they directly profit from it. Something needs to be done about this fact. Google should be held accountable for every single person that gets scammed by a Google add
Time to switch to Firefox
Biggest insult is when you pay for premium yoh still get full screen ads labeled as "premium afterhours" the "premium only benefit". Note, this can not be disabled.
Ive had RUclips premium for a few years and just recently lost it temporarily for financial reasons. Holy SH*T there was adds when i last had a normal account but now RUclips premium is more comparable to standard RUclips 10 years than standard is now. Ads on videos are one thing, but now it has ads LITERALLY everywhere?! No wonder people are making such a big deal on adblock! Even the Hub isn't this aggressive with ads!
Google is always pulling some stuff that just makes me think "how to drive users to your competitors 101." While a lot of people will give up the fight, Google will not win. Seriously, ad blockers and their devs do not back down and I respect them wholeheartedly for that
This will force me to finalize my transition to firefox.
I'm rooting for the digital heroes who will ultimately negate anything the leviathan does.
Yes! Let's all take down the digital Regimist known as Google!
I've been thinking about witching to Opera GX or another alternative, but what always stopped me in the past was the hassle to reconfigure everything. I've been waiting for the right push to do it and it seems the time has finally come. GJ Google!
I heard Gx is also a chromium based website
Google and RUclips are fighting way too hard for nothing. As long as there are ads, there will be adblockers. One must imagine Google happy without adblockers(or rather WITH adblockers)
As long as you can watch without logging in, they'll have this problem.
If their ads were not 2/3 open scams and Chinese content farms, they might have a leg to stand on
It's fun when companies want to use their monopoly to get their will. It usually ends in crashing and burning.
Then proceed to blame everyone but themselves, like bruh, If they want to pour gasoline instead of water thats on them.
I reinstalled windows yesterday. Adguard says that in that time, its blocked 14k ads and 12k trackers. SINCE YESTERDAY!!!!! Adblocks are a NECESSITY!!!!!
There's NO way the EU lets them get away with this right?
Never place trust in political institutions to fix things for you.
@@josephpotter5766well the EU has fixed a ton of bad things like what apple does
I read something and I think theyre already working on it
Even if the EU did something about it, that only means they'd stop this _in the EU,_ they'll keep going in places like the US, Canada, Japan e.t.c.
@@Delta225 what about apple being forced to switch to USB C?
Well, time to switch browsers then. I will have to reunite with my old friend, Firefox.
Never should've left to begin with it
Firefox is great, haven't looked back. Moving over only took a day just logging in and accessing my 2FA. I specifically stopped using Google Chrome because of Manifest V3 and will NEVER go back.
i've had issues in the past with website formatting and stuff when using firefox. if you want a chromium based browser that blocks ads natively with a ton of other privacy features, you should give brave a shot. firefox is great but a lot of websites just assume you're using a chromium and have catered their design for it unfortunately
Governments need to do something about the advertising industry. It not only intrusive, but a fucking _security risk,_ and the companies who could do something about it are the same ones benefiting from how broken this all is. Google is trying to shut down adblockers, and they're an advertising company; that is a _blatant_ conflict of interest.
for all we know, the government could be the ones making google do all the tracking and such. after all, when has the government actually cared in the last 10+ years or so about the common folk? the laws that are getting made and put through and bills and such, which one of those has ever been for the good of the people rather than for their own power hungry selves.
@@n7nobodycats The government being involved in this is _incredibly_ unlikely; why wouldn’t they just gather information themselves, as they have been so frustratingly inclined to do in the past? Meanwhile, Google has a perfectly believable reason for gathering so much information: they use the information to push ads to people more likely to buy a product, and use that as a selling point so other companies will use their deeply invasive system.
Please don’t make me look for good laws when the party that’s been in charge in Congress most of the time during the past 10 years has been the pro-corporate one…
also, most people don't realize how many ways there are to block ads, even if there were no adblockers we could still use other methods to block them... like private dns, blocking server addresses manually on windows, and more...
So this will possibly increase the popularity of Firefox browsers (which might still allow the extensions), Brave (which can just block the ad scripts) and similar browsers. And maybe increasing the popularity of other youtube replacements (like odysee where you can still find many creators like SomeOrdinaryGamer). Lastly, some smaller group of people may go and change search engines too
The latter, stop using google search I already did a few years ago. Their search results are just getting worse by the day.
Google just continues to give the people reasons to switch to Firefox.
Amen
I mean most people have been pretty dumb relying on Chrome to begin with, but Firefox has been having its own set of issues in the past lately
@@XZ-III That is why I use Brave & Brave search.
@@XZ-IIIim curious what problems does firefox have?
@@BlackWolf9988 memory leaks... performance issues
I can’t imagine why Google, the market leader in digital advertising that generates more than 80% of their revenue from ads, would possibly want to prevent you from blocking advertising on their platforms.
Remember kids, “don’t be evil”!
Their job is selling ads. Doing their job isn't "being evil".
Stopping you from getting free entertainment because you won't watch the ads isn't "evil".
But theft of services is.
@@bjornskivids Being "evil" is entirely subjective, but you're still disingenuously simplifying the issue. The lapse of ethical practices and abuse of their monopolistic position is what could be considered "evil", as is their ongoing shifting to convert prior consumers into a commodity while relying on those very same users for content and profit generation.
Either way, I was taking a jab at their former slogan which very much was their stated "job" until they decided it was more profitable to treat people like cattle. If you don't see anything wrong with this you should look into raising the standard of what you consider personally acceptable.
Let them block away. I'll still be using scripts that are deployed outside of Chrome for it to work. I love coming up with workarounds, as do others
Google: "How can we make more money?"
Board Member: "We can ban all ad blockers, destroying users privacy and security, so we can make them watch ads for things they're probably not gonna buy."
Google: "Brilliant!"
"Tonight at 7: Firefox downloads skyrocket. Google unsure as to why"
Switched to Firefox when RUclips started their bs with adblock a few weeks ago. Will never go back to chrome.
Same.
The possible good thing about Google trying to fight and Block Ad Blockers is that they'll lose many users, let alone traffic and I feel Google, let alone RUclips have been getting away for too long with their incompetence, seeing all their Karma catch up with them is music in my ears, plus the idea of their competition to take their spot as top dog in the Internet Browser wars isn't a bad thing either, I guess we'll see where this road to madness goes.
Its gonna end up like netscape lmfao. People just gonna use another browser like Firefox, Edge, or even Opera.
My lil brother uses Opera. I used it for a bit, but never liked the whole "feel".
I started using adblockers long before youtube ads became a problem, remember the days where you'd arrive at a website and they'd have animated GIF ads or even Flash ads that wre literally just flashing colours at you? Yeah, that's when I got sick of them and started blocking them, but using computers where no adblockers are installed, my god is it a minefield of videos, images, links and other unwanted content!!! It is truly horrific, and it is why I'll continue to block ads, they started the fight, we'll end it...
I remember when Google was a cool brand. So weird to see how far they've fallen.
It's the diversity hires which have made it so high in the company they don't understand what made them good.
it's the natural circle of business, the founders exit one way or another and the accountants take over. the accountant has no vision so they focus on their spreadsheets. if you want another prominent example look at apple, this applies outside the tech sector too.
When was that
@@fancyclown3593 when they started out they had an almost blank homepage with just a search box, when competitors looked more like what yahoo still does. That was cool. Everyone wanted to work there, and they used to let employees work on their own projects 1 day a week, which is how Gmail came about. It offered 1gb of storage when Hotmail and others had about 50mb and made you delete old emails. That was cool too. Bascially, the things they did before they started earning money made them cool.
@@fancyclown3593 probably back in the 1997 to y2k era
Streisand Effect finna hit ABC so fucking hard, and I’m here for it! Beyond sick of seeing the shitty ass ads on RUclips Mobile (primary way to watch videos for now). Maybe if they genuinely listened to us saying “We don’t like this ad,” I’d be okay with watching genuinely personalized ads.
little tip for a totally intentional feature from google, if you use the chrome app and go to the youtube site through it, it never loads ads, it just doesn’t i dont know why, and i can only pray it’ll stay this way, but its so goddamn useful.
"because of the privacy" surely I believe that GOOGLE 😂
ads on youtube are like those people going from door to door trying to sell you something and adblock is the door i have the right to close my own door
Google cant legally block adblockers because in various nations like Canada, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, etc, ability to block is part of the communications/telecom codes and regulations. They risk getting fined and being domain blocked.
True but they can still block it in the U.S.
@@andrewcowing9141will a vpn fix this?
I wonder how much they care. They probably make more money in countries like the US with less protective regulations and are willing to toss the less profitable ones to the side.
I mean they offer an alternative (which to me sounds similar to the adblockers available on iOS), so at least at the surface they are not completely blocking adblockers.
Might be enough to not get into trouble.
@@andrewcowing9141 And then the US users use VPNs to circumvent their restrictions.
as someone who exclusively uses firefox, i suuuuurrreeeee hope firefox/opera/literally any other browser enjoys the additional traffic from ppl jumping ship
It’s like the biological arms race between predator and prey, the harder they try to get rid of it, the craftier and stronger they are going to get
I want Google to keep trying to block adblockers so they keep getting stronger and waste millions lol
" What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!"
Welp, looks like Firefox could finally become mainstream again.
When youtube stops sending AI generated scam ads I'll think about removing ad blocks.
That and when they start doing away with the unskippable ads in favor of like 10 banner ads in one video. Banner ads aren't all that intrusive anyway, and don't interrupt the video. If they did that, then I would absolutely disable mine on RUclips. Until then, I'm keeping it on
they've been doing this quietly for a while now. I've seen a few extension developers complain about theirs being suddenly removed from the chrome store. ffs man, I just want to use mods in my games
I’ve already been weaning off Google since their results, which are SUPPOSED to be better than other search engines, are clogged with ads and stuff completely irrelevant to what I’m searching for. (Also they block you if you use a VPN, which shows that they hate people trying to keep any semblance of privacy.)
honestly its probably a rogue ai they made one years ago and gave it full control over googles engine
if they do it enough im personally going to set up an 'ad collection bot' to see how many offensive or borderline illegal ads i can get in as short of a period of time without an account and on private browser (as 'vanilla/historyless' as possible, the ads *Anyone* can get] as possible, and then forward that information to several news organizations with the right wording so they can get a good story and youtube/google will be forced to moderate their ads
“Google promotes lewd advertisements directed towards children!” is a good headline, and actually COMPLETELY accurate, i’ve seen fortnite scam ads with uncovered boobs in the thumbnail before, nips out and everything.
I've seen literal lolicon being advertised the moment I disabled my adblock just to see if it was really still horrible on this site, so maybe toss in exploitation to that title. Sprinkle in the fact that they want to sell sex toys on a site that doesn't let their creators swear because it's "family friendly". OH! Maybe some of those scam ads using Disney's name, too.
@@carlwheezerofsouls3273same but with among us. Not to mention I keep getting these obviously fake give aways and “governments giving away free money” crap meant to target seniors.
@@carlwheezerofsouls3273yeah dude and I can't stand those porny adverts of anime characters, so weird and annoying!
Someone’s about to invent an Adblock block blocker
This already exists, within the adlblocker itself...
When YT first started attacking ad blocker a month or so ago I tried using YT for a few days without them and I quickly realized that if I don't have an adblocker YT is unwatchable, there are SO many ads who has time to watch all those ads god damn. If I can't use adblocker I'll simply never watch YT. I have plenty of other stuff I can watch at home that won't force my to watch hours of ads every night.
if google does this it will possibly kill their browser or at the very least will cause more people to switch browsers and realizing that goggle isn't actually all that secure
this just won't kill the browser. The percentage of people usign adblock and them having it as a requirement is really low
I like the optimism you have, but I doubt it'll be significant enough. Most people who use chrome are average joes who don't know, don't care.
I stop using chromium long ago and I have being using RUclips and Google over time if they do it on the browser side will not affect me at all. Now if they do it on the youtube side I just stop watching RUclips as all. I have being changing my behaviour and using alternatives so by the time they do that will not matter to me.
i mean we didnt think a ton of people where going to install better adblock for youtube and look how that turned out we can only wait and see if this ends up happening doesnt matter to me though i stopped using chrome long ago@@CapitalTeeth
@@CapitalTeethand I may add those who cares end up changing for a new chrome at the end.
Wait, chrome is only at 63% install base? Wasn't it like 80%+ just a few years ago? If they are losing "first tier" users that fast already, can't wait to see what happens with mv3
I wonder if they have any feeling in their foot left after shooting it this many times?
@@DireWolfDevil lmao
@@DireWolfDevilBy this point, it probably just permanently feels like having a sleeping foo, lmao.
Google is about to strengthen other browsers with this move.
They already have.
Are these companies trying to block ad-blockers thinking of students/teachers at all? Imagine writing a paper and citing your sources, and your teacher clicks on of the links and the website is filled to the brim with ads or pop-ups. Worse, sometimes these ads are inappropriate.
This is straight out of a dystopian sci-fi novel. Advertisers fighting the public for control of cyberspace. God help us all.
It's better that the species understand and confront these issues now rather than later when the technology is more integrated with physiology.
Yep, literally Ready Player One
Thank you Google for never failing to disappoint us
to remind us to buy premium*
I guess Google doesn't realize this will never work, we will always find a way to circumvent restrictions like this.
you cannot block the freedom of the interent am i right.
Ad block developers: Fine, we'll make a standalone app instead, since MV3 only affects in-browser extension
i like how they haven't seemed to think about the ways to block ads that are done out side of chrome or even the pc when your using pie hole or heck you can do it with agv to ( when it doesn't want to throw a fit that is )
Brave, Opera, and Firefox are always an option :)