Cobra Jet Intake _ 2020 Mustangs Compete on the Dyno _ Do Cams Make a Difference? Find out Here!
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Two 2020 Mustang Gt 5.0 with a M-9424-M50CJA cobra jet intake Manifold twin 65 mm throttle body, long tube headers cold air intake running on E85 M-9593-LU47 fuel injectors
E85 tune. this cool mustangs also has Lightweight brakes . . Considering the cost of a whipple supercharger or a procharger twin turbo system this N/A full bolt on car makes excellent power without boost. with stage 3 cams and more dyno tuning this car can potentially make over 550 whp. why buy an expensive shelby gt 350 or a shelby gt 500 or even a 2020 Mustang mach one. the Standard Gen 3 Mustang with a few mods will run with more expensive cars. they just need a few mods. . .A full bolt on Cobra Jet intake Build With stage 2 cams can run with the beat of them!!
With 550 whp Whats not to like.
#steeda #coyote #mustang 5.0 #cobra jet #gt500 
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Great video! I like the A-B comparison. This was fun… I like the energy, especially when the black car broke 500 HP.
Mike Fyxdt . . . Everybody went nuts that day! Thanks For watching Brotha!
My brotha. I am diggin that musty. That is some power bars on the side. Great video as always.
Ponyo3816 . . Thanks Brotha!
Great video my friend, loving the grabber orange GT, both are load as $hit, but sound so sweet. Man both are putting
some serious numbers for N.A. cars, great work. Thanks for sharing.
Paul Hudgins .. Thanks Brotha!
Al you were fired up over that black car. Love the mustang content. Yeah brother.
thereissomecoolstuff . . Oh Yeah! Everybody went crazy that day!
Awesome content Al! Both of those are killing it NA!
Kevin Skonieczny . . Pretty Nasty without boost
Wow! Wasn’t expecting your new look!
Adam Smith . . . . something different!
Great video! Like the way you explain in detail about the cars. Cams are definitely worth it.
Mr Mach 1 . .. I would like to see your 2021 mach 1 with cams, long tubes on e85 .. the gt 350 manifold is the one i like. .. .
@@coyotecarguy2076 Maybe one day.
Hello Al. Nice to see you back. I like Mustang GT cars. I am impressed by your great automotive passion. Stay happy my friend.
yaropol80. . Thanks for watching brotha!
This was an epic day I remember loosing it when Jose broke 500whp it was awesome👍 We all made some good power that day keep up the great videos AL
Coyote HD . . Thanks Man!! Your Video is on the way!!
@@coyotecarguy2076 can’t wait to see it 💪
Two awesome mustangs and plenty of power to have some fun at the track! Thx Al!
Victor Xavier. .... Glad you enjoyed it!
@@coyotecarguy2076 is venting to atmosphere better than recirculating for pcv ?
@@Oliver-ft2fq yes it's better in that there is no oil vapor to dilute the fuel and lower the octane. a catch can or venting to atmosphere is better that way
Awesome dyno runs. Sound is great. On your video. Great tools For sure
Northern Mustangs . . . thanks brotha!
That black stallion is powerful for sure even the orange fury is powerful for stock cams the E-85 help to. Good to see you AL. 😎👏👍💪
Serge Basque ..... It is pretty impressive . . everybody went wild that day!
That's impressive and definitely worth the cam upgrades
Lethal Venom .. . . definitely! cams are worth it! Thanks for stopping in!
Great video Al
Forced Horse . . . .Thanks 👍
Great comparison video! Didn’t know it made decent difference
Red5oh. . Yeah 31 hp is pretty good
Wow! I was just wondering this 😅 I can't wait to watch.
Rey Gonzalez .. . What do you think?
@@coyotecarguy2076 great numbers! Would love to see these bad boys at the track.
Wow those pony's are makin some powa !!
Car Mob . . Oh Yeah!
Man ! Great stuff
Diablito Speedz . .. Thank You!
Great comparison.
miles Hiles .. .. thanks brotha!
Great video! Do Custom Grind camms make more power? Then Comp Camms?
You need to get a comparrison going with 2 cars that have the same transmission to really compare how much difference the cams make
Sheeeesh! 🔥🔥🔥
James_s550 . . you know it!
Interesting results. Back in 2018 I was able to get 502 HP on a Mustang Dyno out of my 10r80. I had Texas Speed headers, x-pipe, JLT intake and an e85 tune. The Dyno sheet is posted on that cars IG. Man I miss that car. Thinking about building an F150 next.
They make power for sure thanks for watching brother
Nice video, Is the cammed mustang on upgraded converter ?
My car should be wrapping up early this week. Was stock with a T56 and 3.55 gears. Will now have stg 2 nsr comp cams, beehive spring kit, cobrajet, VMP twin 69mm, steeda closed box, Kooks 1 3/4 headers, and 4.09 rear end. Not likely to get a video of the results since will be at work, but will aim to get a dyno sheet uploaded to mustang6g.
Karrottop . . sounds pretty Badass!
Very nice setup if you spin it over 8k with a 28 inch tire I bet you could get away with a 456 gear although the 4.09 is much better than what you had. The t56 is geared much longer as you know. Badass setup and props on doing the manual thing too many jump on the auto bandwagon.
A mt82 300a pack 5.0 weighs 3680 lbs. A loaded 407A pack car 10R80 is right at 3885-3900 lbs. A new 2024 base 5.0 is 3800 lbs, a loaded model over 4000 lbs.
Great video Al....Nice comparison! The black car sounds bad a$$.
Stupid Fast Truck . . . It really does!
I got a CJ Fbo catless headers, Gt500 coil packs, and stage3 comp cams on E85 tests (90%) and im at 513rwhp and 398tq on the dynojet . SAE corrected.
Rick L. . . Thats Badass!
@@coyotecarguy2076 on a Gen2 coyote not Gen3 btw!
@@trunkslorenzana . . Thats Very Good! Great Numbers Bro!
@@coyotecarguy2076 thanks man, you build is better tho, you can make some crazy power if you get stage 3 cams📈👀
@@trunkslorenzana .. i think the orange car in this video is getting stage 3 cams . . hopefully i get the video
Good video,but not a true comparison with the cars having different transmissions. Would love to see before and after pulls of both cars to see what difference the cams make with manual and automatic transmissions.
Rene Brookerd . . you may get your wish . . the twister orange is getting cams. . . i will try my best to get the video . .
Great video... I hear Ford will not be making the Cobra Jet Intake pretty soon.
Mark R. . . Gosh i hope they continue making it. .
Thanks for the video, Al. What dyno correction factor was used?
Dave Scott .. Gosh i really wish i had an answer for you but i really dont know. .
I give it a big 👍👍
Heather7 LightofChrist . . Thank you Heather!
What is the exact exhaust set up for the shadow black stang?
I remember watch a Steeda video, they said the Steeda cold air intake box is made for active driving. Would do as good on the Dyno.
All steeda products are of high quality Whatever steeda claims I'm sure your results will be similar
Definitely not first but I still made it to the show 🔥
Canadian Cruisin .. . Its ok, Your #1 in my book Brotha!
Cams definitely make a difference
Beards and Cars . . they really do!
They do na or boosted and it's kind of nuts that people actually think they don't lol. Too much focus is given on just peak power and not the fact that it carries power out further and holds power more at higher rpm the area under the curve is greatly effected. With a cj they definitely work I wouldn't even do a cj without also doing cams just my .02.
I wonder if the heads were V-2-4 were stock or better!
So what did the black one have?
That's bad azz that the cams made that much difference! I bet on a supercharged car, it be crazy!
Josh Odin 19 .. Hard the imagine 550whp from a 5.0 10 years ago ..
O yea! They've come a long way!
I’ve seen 50 out of cams on a supercharged one. But with boost, spending $3000 on cams is pointless. Pulley down and get the power that way.
@colemason2422 this not good advice. There's a thing called efficiency my friend. Also not everyone has badass fuel they can run so they can just "pulley down" it's gonna take e85 to be able to do that or race fuel. The cams not only make a good chunk more but they effect the overall curve in a good way average power is much more through a pull and it will make that extra power at a lower boost level i.e. it's more efficient. Telling people to just cram boost down it's throat for more power isn't good advice. Why would you not wanna make more power at a lower boost level?
@@colemason2422where do people get it costs 3000 for cams? It's like 1500 for a full set of cams btw. It's funny how people add in labor when talking about cams but nobody says spending 3000 on headers is pointless even though gains are less than cams? I don't understand this view that people have toward cams in the coyote world. It's looked at as a waste even though it has more gains than alot of other stuff you can do that's in a similar price range. Also people look at cams and cj as if it costs as much as properly boosting one and that is also nonsense. A cammed cj car will be much faster than a typical fbo car that has stock cams and manifold. It's the way it effects the curve there is more to it than peak to peak comparison. These people who preach against cams need to be stopped. Cams are a good mod to do weather you're na or boosted.
Tuning in
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AutoBez313 . .. . thanks brotha!
What neighborhood in NY or Mass are in there?? Looks familiar.
well doesnt the Manual cars put down more power than the auto cars? so if it was an apple to apple coparison this could have been even a more HP gain
Who sells tires with the color matched lettering on the orange one? That's dope
there's a company that makes the lettering
I’m looking at doing direct port nitrous plates kit with a CJ.
Go for it
The guy that installed those cams in Jose’s black car did something special I heard.
Thatfastgreenbean16 .. .. I would like to know what he did. . Thanks for watching!
@@coyotecarguy2076 the only special thing he did was torque the cam bearings a little less than the factory spec. A little less friction makes the cams rotate more freely and flows more air into the cylinders. That's what the cam installer himself told me, I don't know how true it is.
@@tjb423 . . what cams were they? Comp XFI Stage 2?
@@coyotecarguy2076 yes those are the ones he used. They were used on another car previous to the black one, but were in perfect condition before install
@@tjb423 . . Thanks!!!
2020 mustang with stock manifold and throttle body made 475 whp SAE on 92 octanes. This is a Dynodynamics dyno.
Al you gonna be ok with the incoming storm??? Don't stand too close to that river with those huge gators running around!! :D
Rated R Cars . . .. This storm is just a lot of rain . . 65 mph wind is nothing! The Gators? Yeah, They can Get Ya!😁
@@coyotecarguy2076 I'll take the rain and gators any day for all year riding. :) I need to find a job down there.
That’s crazy you can go from 460bhp to around 600bhp from boltons and cam. And dynojet numbers are what the car actually makes at the engine. Me personally hate mustang dynos because they factor in weight and other factors. I like at engine numbers like dynojet.
I agree 100%
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jr Rogers stang . . . Thanks for watching!
I thought 2020s were hard to come by because of parts shortages.
Why are they running lu47’s m.. Thought the gen 3 stock injectors are big enough with those mods.
Maybe not with cams and cj it's flowing alot more air than a stock cam stock manifold car does.
Fusionstang great NA power.
Man. I need to know how they do that orange on the continental writing.
Ponyo3816 .. . I really dont know but i would do a google search for tire lettering.. . i am sure something will come up . . a lot of companies do that these days
@@coyotecarguy2076 That's the thing. But none are really reviewed well. It just looked so goooooood. Plus on my midnight black. Toooooo sweet.
I see the CJ fits under the stock hood or is the motor lowered?
either A. they installed aftermarket motor mounts or B. cut the stock hood in a specific “shape”
@@adolfhitler2894 awesome thank you brotha for the info 😎
Andres Razo . Motor mounts in this one
Haven't seen or posts about your Mustang for a long time, just curious? You had it going pretty good there at the track and figured u may have done some more modding?
19GT. . i have been a little busy lately but i will get back to my mustang soon .. stay tuned
Could you get cams with a stock 18 intake manifold and still take advantage of them
No, 18 manifold starts falling out of power pretty quickly around 7500 rpm. Stock cams are good for that number, bigger cams will want more rpm that the 18 manifold can’t keep up with. Ported boss, gt350, cobra jet, or the new high ram would be better for those cams
@@sadboiracing7429ported cj ftw if you want the most out of an na coyote. I agree with everything you said but ported cj or nothing...if you're gonna do cams dont choke it off by cheaping out on the manifold..
@@midnight347 the ported high ram has been showing comparable performance. Some actually have gained a little from swapping. The biggest difference from the two I think would be portability and tunability. I do agree go big or go home but I know everyone has different builds in mind
Al where you at?
Rated R Cars . . been really busy brotha
Mmr has after market heads coming out so now we can see a true h/c/I gen 3 5.0 should make over 600whp na and I want to see one run a c6 zo6 with same mods
Jordan Cook . . Wow that would be a great race. . heads sound interesting
Manual vs manual z06 would eat it. 10spd does wonders for the mustang... c6 z06 wasn't geared or made for roll racing. It was gear for 0-60 times and road racing. Can't wait to see how the c8 z06 compares... 670hp paired to a 10spd dct.
@@camonly849 no sir 8 speed dct
@@Shiftnlift for some reason when you Google c8 z06 transmission it says it's a 10spd. Which I thought was weird
@@camonly849 u are correct on gm authority it says that but everywhere else including car and driver says revised dct that's used in the stingray. Which makes more sense why got backwards when u have a dct which the base model has as well as the gt500.. I love 10 speed and I have a 10 speed mustang but I don't think it's better than a dct which is why it's used on the shelby and c8s lol
What’s a good place to bring my Camaro to get tuned You have been to a few places in Fort Myers and Cape Coral
James Walker .. . Performance cycle and auto in Naples. . . Jr could probably do it also at Dyno solutions in ft myers also 5 bar could also do it but i haven't been there in a while. . . all good choices
@@coyotecarguy2076 Thanks I appreciate it I will check into to them .Went to 5 bar and wants some headers installed . They never got bac’ t9 me on a price
@@coyotecarguy2076 Thanks so much Went to 5 bar wanted them to install headers they did not seem too interested. I think they are overwhelmed. I will look into the other places
@@jameswalker7088 .. call Jr. over at program fuel injection . . he can help you for sure
He should have ported the CJ and throttle body to get even more power
He may have done that
Wouldn’t bank in that 10% DynoJet correction factor nonsense.
MDs are so calibration depending…many read higher than DynoJets.
If you want repeatable, relevant dyno numbers get on a DynoJet
What comp cams are the best to get for max effort and # Al
Alberto Bahena. . For a Gen 3 . . Stage 2 with a cobrajet intake
@@coyotecarguy2076 you know the cam number by any chance
@@albertobahena414 .. Not off hand but they are comp cams stage 2 . . you'll find the specs on the web
@@coyotecarguy2076 Thanks al
So it made 550 to the wheel???
Andres Razo . . Oh Yeah!! She made a lot of power!
Do you have to run cams with the Cobra jet Manifold ?
No
No but you certainly should if you wanna get the most from the intake. Stock cams hold them back.
Bruh my 10r80 with just jlt caí e85, and no cats with stop headers, it’s making 480. That black 5.0 should make at least 550 or more
Maybe it did the car was on the heartbreak dyno
Why does the stock cam Gen 3 run LU-47’s? No need for those. Does the orange car have a JMS convertor box? Jose in the black 5.0
Because of E85
@@trunkslorenzana I have a Gen 3…. We don’t need LU-47’s period. Just a tune.
@@trunkslorenzana you have us confused with Gen 1’s and Gen 2’s with any manifold other than stock 🤐
@@10R8OH no because if you want to run a cobrs jet you need LU-47s , cant use stock ones.
@@trunkslorenzana Dude I have a Gen 3 with a CJ vids on my channel and did not need Lu-47’s 😂… STOP
stage 3 comps work better for the cj
there’s no stage 3 comp cams available for the gen 3
The question is, why wouldnt cams make a difference? More lift, more duration? Of course it would.
There's no reason it wouldn't but in the coyote world people have this delusion just because they can make 1000 wheel on stock cams that somehow cams don't do anything or aren't needed lol. That is very wrong but that is how alot of coyote people think for whatever reason. Cams are a worthwhile mod weather you're na or boosted imo.
Comp cams? Mutha thumpa stage 2 cams?
A few more details please.
The Wolf . . . most likely comp .. but i am not 100% sure
@@coyotecarguy2076 Comp does the XFI Stage 2 cams 232/234 for 2018+, and Stage 2 Mutha Thumpr cams 232/242.
Both are for NA...I'm just curious about the details in that black stang, those are impressive numbers.
Great video, thanks for sharing this with us.
@@thewolf7119 .. ok its confirmed . . he has the comp xfi cams
@@coyotecarguy2076 You rock! Thanks for getting back with the details.
Blower cars making 550? Doubt it. Maybe a Gen 2 with a blower on 6psi and no other mods haha
Alot of blown 5.0s are below 600 wheel. 2.3 cars without alot of supporting mods can easily be in that power range on 91 octane. Not every boosted coyote makes 700-800 wheel lol
They gotta close that hood on the dyno.
Daily drivable with cams?
Yes the vvt makes it possible
@@coyotecarguy2076 Thanks for the info.
Any idea on how it might impact the longevity of the car?
Had my s550 for about a year now and contemplating na engine work.
Either way thanks for the info and content 🙏
Not a good comparison. The 10r80 will take more power to drive than the mt82. So the power increase from the cams will be more than shown here. As far as dyno comparisons go, you can't just add 10%. An inertia dynojet cannot be manipulated to change power output, but a mustang dyno can by changing the load. Over here in CA, mustang dyno's are known as the happy dynos because they usually show a lot more power than a dynojet. But that says more about the dyno operator than the dyno. An honest mustang dyno operator will have a power reading within 5% of an inertia dynojet when set to SAE correction factor and it can swing either way as to which is reading higher. In the end, a dyno is just a tool and trap speed tells all. But people sound silly when they add power to guess the output of another dyno. Nothing against you personally, sir.
I've always seen where mustang dyno are stingy by comparison and show lower typically.
Ya mustang dynos read low asf
Looking for bigger power numbers for the sake of higher power numbers (saying what it makes on a dyno jet or quoting the corrected power number) is just cock measuring. You still have what you have, no matter what number the dyno spits out. WCF is only handy for comparing what a car made in the dead of winter in Siberia to what a car made in Death Valley at the height of summer. It still isn’t the number the car made and the car isnt any faster for it. By that I mean the orange car made 467whp and the black car made 489whp. If it wasn’t a great day for making power, no problem, you have a base number and better weather will make for more power if you race anything but a dynamometer. In any case, those are some very respectable power numbers NA with that displacement.
No way my cobra jet with stage 3 comp cams made 512whp then 😭
Where'd you get stage 3 comp cams?
Every dyno is different bud this one reads lower than a dyno jet 🙃
I’m a gen 2 car
Tyler Shepherd . . . a gen 2 is a different animal . . but with cams you should be doing pretty good..
@Tyler Shepherd seen a video from hpr. Gen two coyote made 494 and 382. Wit cams. On 93. No cobra jet.
Wtf is it the 4th of July?
no
@@coyotecarguy2076 I was kidding
@@dperr338 👍👍
My 2011 f150 ecoboost made more hp and tq fbo on e30.
Thanks for watching
Deduct 15 hp for the rediculous "open hood" dyno.
Wow....you can really hear those things lay over then just rev with nothing behind it.
Okay but what was the torque gain from those cams it's not just about horsepower it's also about torque you got to love it when people don't know crap about cars make RUclips videos
that's true... there's also a big difference between e85 fuel and 93 .. intrested to see this build on 93
Gary Hitchcock . . . So sorry i didn't mention torque . . I'll go check your channel now!
mustangs don’t make torque so this comment is irrelevant
Orange car has '60s vents on rocker covers, oh my, nice at making an oily engine bay. Black car nearly stalls after the pull, can't idle on its own, smoking engine bay as well, not worth a few ponies IMHO. Go supercharger and stop wasting $$$ on NA. BTW ...... dynos are the ultimate LYING machine, you can make any number you want.
Jim Bourne .. check out my car . . running a whipple stage 2 setup
So 400 + horsepower is not enough ?
Did you forget that these are STREET CARS ?
Well thanks for pissing your money
up against the wall
and paying MY taxes .