VMP Performance | Coyote Ford Mustang Manifold Shootout
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Trying to decide which Coyote Mustang intake manifold to put on your Ford Mustang? In this video, VMP tested all of the commonly available Coyote manifolds to see which one will get you the most horsepower.
0:25 | 2018 Ford Mustang Intake Manifold Test
1:26 | Ported 2018 Ford Mustang Intake Manifold Test
2:28 | Ford Mustang GT350 Intake Manifold Test
3:39 | Ford Mustang Boss 302 Intake Manifold Test
5:48 | Ford F-150 Truck Intake Manifold Test
8:08 | Ford Mustang Cobra Jet Intake Manifold Test
10:55 | 2018 Ford Mustang Intake Manifold Results/Review
11:29 | Ported 2018 Ford Mustang Intake Manifold Results/Review
12:29 | Ford Mustang GT350 Intake Manifold Results/Review
12:52 | Ford Mustang Boss 302 Intake Manifold Results/Review
14:13 | Ford F-150 Truck Intake Manifold Results/Review
15:18 | Ford Mustang Cobra Jet Intake Manifold Results/Review
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On behalf of all Coyote owners, thank you! For taking the time to do this!
You're very welcome!
You have never lied thank you VMP SO MUCH
Yes indeed !!!!!! Hats off .
@@VMPPerformanceTV Wonder what a ported 18 truck manifold would do
@@kevinanglin678 absolutely was something id hope to see.
VMP really brings it for the people.... if there is any doubt about who cares, just look to see who brings the most usable content for the people... Thanks guys...
So ported 18' intake for my coyote project. Got it.👍
Man O War weird flex but ok
Are u gonna change tour injectors?
Percaholic well i did comment it a year ago ...
Ported 18 manifold. Cold air intake and exhaust should add an extra 30hp - 35hp maybe!
@@milleniallgt9715 it should add more than that for sure
I'm really glad it was you guys that tackled this test! Everyone has been waiting for this.
Thanks, Gonzo! We will have a story on it in our next newsletter as well.
BTW guys, I live in Inverness west of Ocala and I have a ported CJ intake and mono blade tb sitting on my shelf in case you needed to use one for a future part 2 video.
@@eddie6t9 Would you like to sell that CJ and mono blade????
No sir. It was on my procharged 14 GT when it was still NA but now it's going on my auto 18 GT.
@@eddie6t9 reach out to me: kerrie.tatarka@vmpperformance.com and I'll see what we can do on a P2.
This video is the deciding factor on which manifold I chose. I went with the 18+ Ported ! Thanks VMP !
I like to see what a ported truck manifold would do. I spend more time in the mid range. So that extra torque would be nice!
I’m here because of Cleetus. Much love to VMP and the Neighbor project!
Hell yeah, brother! 🦅🦅🦅
This precisely what my local tuner told me. If you're racing then go with a GT350 or 18 intake because all your gains are on the top end. If you're just street cruising and occasional street racing then the stock intake has better low end torque, but runs out at 6500rpm. Wondering how the complete Borla 8 stack set up fares. Expensive yes, but looks amazing.
The Stang is such a work horse, gotta love it
I have a ported 18/19 manifold and got the cylinder head ported also . With a tune 511 rwhp. ( + CAI - H-pipe)
This video was the inspiration for the mods I got , which I, happy with.
Y’all made the video that answers everyone’s questions 😂
Can we please get a part 2 with the ported truck mani, ported cj , holley sniper mani, and the Edelbrock Victor 2 mani?
We'll see what we can do, Reece. Thanks for the suggestions!
@@VMPPerformanceTV You welcome, thanks for the content keep it coming.
You asking for to much my guy just be happy
@@KINGKJ2REAL Thats your opinion requesting more data can never hurt.
VMPPerformance I definitely suggest adding the holley to the test i made 450whp with the holley and switched to a Cobra Jet and made 448whp..
Great job. What did it do with the stock 2017 intake manifold? It would be interesting to see how much difference the other six manifolds made.
Really impressed with the torque of the truck intake manifold. I'd be interested to see what a ported 2018 truck manifold would do.
Wow this is what I spent about 15hrs looking for! 👏🏼🙌🏼
This video is insanely good
Need a Ported 2018 Truck manifold test next :D
Thanks for the suggestion! We'll look into it.
Amen !!!
I was thinking about that too. Lol
2018 GT INTAKE is the ONLY intake we ever suggest to our customers......Great job testing
This video made me finally pull the trigger on a ported 18 manifold. Can't wait!
who does the porting?
Armando Alvarado 1320 junkie performance and vmp Can port it. Go on there website! www.vmpperformance.com/2011-2017-Mustang-GT-2018-Intake-Manifold-Tuning-Power-Pack?quantity=1&custcol_vmp_tune_octane=E85%20&custcol_vmp_porting_option=71&custcol_vmp_transmission=1&custcol_vmp_tune_for_e85=20&custcol_add_tuning_device=52&custcol_vmp_add_air_intake=6&custcol_vmp_cmcv_imrc_options=4
I'm going to have to try that Truck manifold, it might give me the added kick coming out of the corners that I need.
Could you guys do a ported 11-14 intake manifold too? Just for shiggles 🤷🏼♂️
Wow I’ve been sweating this upgrade for awhile and you guys gave me a clear choice...thank you.
Sweet! Glad we could help!
Did you guys tune per manifold? Find it kinda hard go believe a truck mani out flows the boss mani.
You give Dino data on all intakes but the 15-17. Why is that? Would be good to see where you would be whit that manifold.
With the truck manifold if you set it to shift at 6800 it would make about the same peak hp and more torque in the powerband in each gear I think.
I have a 2013 5.0 and the truck manifold looks promising. Would like to know the difference in power through the curve of the truck manifold, stock 2015 manifold and stock 2011 manifold. They all drop off at 6500 but if you gained power everywhere else that would be a great bang for your buck. Many 1st gen Coyote owners dont want to rev past around 7000-7200K. Every single other manifold in this test would need to be revved to at least 7500 RPM or it would make the car slower vs the stock ones.
Jesus PLEASE more videos like this! This is what we want to see. I’m curious, was the truck mani a 2018 or a 15-17? I’d love to see a 15-17
We're glad you enjoyed the video! The truck manifold was an '11-'14
Y'all should have used a 2018 truck manifold!
Do a 2018 f150, test the manifolds on those!
I agree..i would like to see a 2018 truck manifold..
Now it would be cool to see what each manifold does in 1/4 mile on an automatic car with drag radials shifting at peak HP
Thanks for the suggestion!
@@VMPPerformanceTV on a stock engine Gen 1 is the intake manifold worth it ?
How would a ported boss302 manifold compare
Awesome content guys, now i am even happier with my BOSS 302!
Awesome!
Excellent video.. thanks for taking the time to put this together - very informative.
You should do a s197 5.0 build lol
Any chance we could get an updated number using the '21 F-150 manifold?
Well the 2018 intake manifolds are going to be on back order! Order them before you have to wait for 2-3 months lol
These are the kinds of videos that I wanted 10 years ago. Great videos keep them coming !!!
By far the best intake manifold comparison to date. keep it up guys!
Appreciate it!
I wonder how the edelbrock intake would do in this challenge
Such a great review/comparison video. Thanks for taking the time to produce this!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Would love to see what the 2018 manifold does for all us 2011 to 2014 guys.
773H fr what I was thinking
We'll be doing that test soon!
Yes. I been told to put a 2018 GT ported intake on my procharged 2013 F150. Now the question to get a truck manifold or the mustang manifold after seeing this test. Unless someone has a better idea because its boosted? I also been told in order to get the manifold to fit, I will need to purchase a 2018 mustang thermostat housing. Not sure if its the same issue with install on the 11-14 mustang.
Please do!!!
773H Nothing because the stock intake was not restricting air flow.
Fantastic review! Are these RWHP numbers? Interesting that the F-150 manifold doesn't lag too much behind in terms of peak HP but obliterates them all in torque. Would be a great mod for pure street or auto-cross where minimal time is spent above 6500 rpm. Would love to see how a well ported F-150 manifold performs up top too. Good work! 😎👍
I just bought my 2017 gt literally what I needed !
Sweet video guys, best on on RUclips yet regarding intake manifolds. I just got my 2018 manifold and VMP tune a few days ago. I feel a huge difference and the power is amazing up top in the Rpms. Thanks for the awesome job you guys did
Thanks, Christopher, for the feedback! Glad you liked the vid.
Hey Christopher did you go with the ported or just the stock 18' and which tuning device did you use? The SCT or ngauge?
D. Izz I went with the stock 18 manifold from VMP and then VMP performance installed the tune as well with it. They used my SCT tuner. They have really good tunes, just tell them what you have on your car and they can make it happen.
@@Cstewart_10 Thanks man ! Enjoy the holiday
So this is all new to me, but, was there any tune done? could a different tune for each manifold changed the outcome.
An actual video to help the community.
Can I run an 18-20 truck manifold on my 2016 F150. 18 up added direct injection, mine is port only. And is the 18-20 truck manifold better than the 15-17? The reason I ask is my manifold is having imrc issues. A new oem 15-17 is 600 bucks, even on ebay. I found new pull offs for 18-20 for 99.00 plus shipping. Also, the 18 up everything manifolds have different attachment points behind the throttle body. What do I need to make everything hook up properly on my 2nd gen truck.
I have so many questions
1. What size throttle body are you using to test unit.
2. What other mods does the car have besides Headers and exhaust?
No tune on any of the swaps? Just put on and go? Wondering how some of the results may vary if it was tuned each time
Wow! Just wow! Hell of a job, guys. Hell of a job.
Thanks Busa_rdr!
I really wished that you posted the numbers to the stock 2017 manifold to have true side by side comparisons.
He said the stock 17 manifold performed almost like the truck, good low end torque but dropped the HP curve on high rpm
I saw that, but then why not just post the side by side numbers? The majority of Mustang owner have stock intakes, not the truck Intake.... right?
@@chile2610 true, maybe the difference is only a couple of numbers, not worth the post i guess lol
Or maybe the 17 performed pretty well and they don’t really want u to know.. Alex brought a a great point ... if you driving light to light your best bet is stock.. if your driving 8500 rpm all the time then get a gt350
Great video, very informative. Thank you guys at VMP for taking the time , really shows that you care for your viewers. 🛠👍👍
Ported 2018 manifold here I come
Were the comparisons between the stock 2017 GT (truck?) intake and the 2018 both performed with the IMRC/CMCV features enabled or disabled? Since there is quite a bit of difference in the bottom-end torque, which the IMRC is supposed to provide, I want to make sure it was an apples to apples comparison.
I would like to see the same testing done I agree a test with the stock 15-17 gt manifold and 18-20 f150 intake manifold but with functioning imrc and proper tune for imrc
How’s the 2018 f150 manifold compare I wonder. As the truck manifolds have a greater torque curve, maybe a ‘18 f150 manifold would be a good swap on Gen 1&2 f150’s
Maybe a test on a ‘18 mustang VS ‘18 f150 manifold would be a good comparison.
18 truck manifold was one of the dynos. It fell short on HP at higher rpm
I’d say the outcome of the testing is either keep it stock and just shift at 6.6k rpm or waist money to pull an extra 1k rpm with no real hp improvements and potential catastrophic results attempting to get so much way upstairs like that. I love your dyno setup!! Awesome scientific testing done and thank you for that. Not quite the results most would expect but definitely worth the effort.
Yea , unfortunately you extra wrong. People have picked up not only hp gains but tenths off their quarter miles with the 2018 intake because they carry the power out further before shifting . In the next gear the rpms are higher than if they had shifted earlier , helping them stay in the usable power band . I'm going 2018 ported intake , you can run the stock manifold and get gapped if you like 😂
Topically a stock 2017 gt makes 380 on the dyno. I believe it is a huge gain to 460 hp
Nice work! I can’t believe you guys only have 4.8k subs! You guys are awesome!
Thanks!
Fantastic. Now do it with the 15 - 17 F150 5.0
Great suggestion! We'll see what we can do.
This is what I'm interested in!
Same here
That would be awesome
Same here
Were the 18 and 350 intakes locked out correct?
Also could you do this again but with a ported 350 vs the 18 ported and un ported? Curious on how well the curve is after that. The 18 ported really smoothed out the tq and had huge low-end gains.
Hi in your opinion would the boss 302 manifold be a good upgrade over a stock 2015 manifold. Am looking too stay as budget friendly as I can.
Did you flash a VMP Tune before running these tests or was it bone stock, just swapping intake manifolds??
ok, is the 2019 Mustang Bullitt intake manifold an improved version of the 2016-2018 GT350? Has a bit better numbers but has the ability to rev all the way to 7800-8000 rpms? If this is the case then in theory, it should perform better than the stock 18 GT manifold? thanks
After a stressful day of work I watch this video just to listen to the sound of that engine roar! What a stress reliever! I would play it at night while I sleep, but my wife may not like that. =)
The truck intake is the best power curve for anyone swapping this motor into a car with any manual transmission other than a built T56 cobra spec or better transmission.
You just can’t get older synchronization technology to shift much over 6500-6800
Also the older 5 speed transmissions have great gaps that are far larger than newer 6 speed transmissions.
One question. Is the torque curve wave due to the variable valve timing?
would an extremely detailed tune help the truck manifold? or would it just be the same as an extremely detailed tune with any other manifold?
Thats all good, the '18 is fine, its optimized, but which of those intakes has the most headroom on an engine with more mods? Put each of those manifolds on an engine with cams, injectors, long tube headers, a QUALITY 3" exhaust, a crazy tune... then tell me which one is best.
Thank you so much for the test! 2018' Bret Barber intake has more HP than the Cobra Jet and more torque than any save the truck intake and it's so cheap. Makes deciding super easy.
You're welcome! Glad we could help out!
Hand porting vs cnc ported big difference maker
good video.....I'll be looking forward to a video with the new dual inlet coyote intake!
I like the truck manifold it's a good light to light swap. But by track you mean road course or 1/4? Also was it done with the lockouts?
What are the numbers with the stock 17 intake? Never saw those for reference.
Would you say the truck manifold would be best for someone that doesn't race? Daily driver that play around with on the street that never sees 6500 rpm
I would say it's better im going to give it a try
My 2016 GT is a beast with '18 intake & VMP tune! So happy.
Glad to hear it!
13:35 The Boss peaked at 7500 rpm because of the cams. Not the intake. Putting a Boss intake on a stock 2011 Mustang will not increase hp or change where the engine peaks.
The boss exhaust cam is 13mm lift vs 12mm lift, and for 15up, the cams are now 13mm lift too. Ford likes to roll the special technology from previous years into the new MY.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a ported manifold shootout. I’m curious how a ported CJ, or ported gt350 mani would do?
Did you have the IMRCs locked out on the 2018 intake mani? I am no tune, 2017 gtp stock. My IMRC flaps are busted and i want to upgrade to the 2018 intake mani. I'm think of locking out the IMRC to full open and removing the IMRC junk from behind the new intake. After zip tying all the loose connections behind the intake manifold, will my car throw a CEL without anything hooked up to the lose pigtails? I am trying to avoid taking it anywhere for a tune. Don't want any CELs. If the car will drive fine without the IMRCs, I don't see a reason to retain them. It's not like it gets good gas mileage in the city anyway...
Either way you have to tune it, if you keep IMRC or delete, and the tuning is a lot better/cleaner when you keep them because the factory logic stays in place.
So I wonder if it’s beneficial to switch to a 2018 or ported 2018 on my 2012 Boss. I was looking at CJ, but 18 is way more affordable
As always, nice Job Justin.
I'm surprised with the results from the GT350 intake vs 2018 intake. They are the same here yet the Bullitt and Mach 1 pull 30+ hp and 15 trq at the wheels with that same GT350 intake. Is this attributed to readjusted tune to take advantage of the larger intake?
Yea this confuses me. I think it may just be the air intake. Debated on getting a ported 350 manifold but it may not be worth it.
Thanks for your time and effort to put this together for us regular folk, greatly appreciated! Keep up the great work!
We're glad you enjoyed, Victor!
I think you guys are really underestimating the truck manifold. It made significantly more torque and even more horsepower up to 5500 rpm. Who cares about peak HP numbers past 6500 rpm. How much time is the motor actually going to spend between 6500 to 7500 rpm anyway? On the street, the truck manifold is going to feel the most torquey and enjoyable to drive. It is probably the cheapest manifold in the bunch as well. I'm curious if porting the truck manifold would have helped the dropoff after 6500 rpm while still maintaining the superior low-end torque.
Question: I have a 17 6r80 with headers, ported boss 302, and tune with a roush CAI. Total numbers after dyno today was 430 to the wheels and 367 torque. 93 octane... Sound right?
Ported boss 302 intake manifold or ported 2018 gt manifold?? I have a 2013 and not sure which to go with.
Absolutely Great explanation of all the different intakes, pros/cons. Very informative and eye opening experience Justin, Thank You. I think I'd go with the ported 2018 intake, seems pretty well rounded
Thanks, we've got them
Really cool to see the truck intake on there. Shows it falls off right after where the F150 redlines.
Was this a 2018 truck manifold? I watched the whole video, I'm pretty excited to be in the Ford Coyote club, just bought a 2018 f150 5.0, looking for easy Bolt on power, truck has 3.55 rear, 34inch tires(bds 4inch w/fox 2.5), any recommendations?
We can always get one of those ported for you. The truck has a larger engine bay so the intake is a little taller and appears to have more runner length.
All this info is pretty helpful for mod motor guys too. The 5.4 Navigator has the ability to use these manifolds and the 18+ manifold seems like the hot ticket.
That truck manifold impressed me too. It made more peak horsepower than the boss 302 manifold and average more hp and tq up until 6500rpms. The boss 302 manifold is common on the 5.4 because it fits over the stock alternator location. Honestly, given that the 5.4 4v sbe is only safe to around 6500rpms, the truck manifold may be the best suited to the combo. Thanks for sharing all this!
No problem at all! We're glad you found it helpful.
got a ported 18 manifold with 2500 miles on it for $20, slapped it on my 17 that same weekend, working at a cord dealership is a big plus😅, you get to keep the cool spare parts
Thanks VMP! I just ordered my 2018 ported manifold with the E85 injectors for my 16 S550. It should give me a good starting platform for my future turbos. Thanks again for your help and great tunes.
Great Video guys! I was waiting for this, purchased the ported 18 kit from you two days ago. However I do have a couple questions, what was the peak the stock GT manifold made? Also is this car running on 93 octane?
Yes, car was running on 93. Will have to check on the peak for you.
VMPPerformance Thanks for the reply, will be looking out for peak info.
VMPPerformance I just realized it’s on E85 by looking at the torque.
I have a 2015 GT, do you need a tune for the 2018 intake? Or just plug and drive. Also I already have a Ford performance tune stage 1. Can I still use the 2018 intake with this tune?? Will there be any checked engine lights. I hear this might be a issue
Would have loved to see how a ported Boss 302 manifold stacked up to the ported 18. Think most people buying an 18 or boss for that matter typically would go for the ported version of that intake so why not test it as so? Personally speaking I have a 2012 Boss 302, long tubes, no cats, on e85 with my oem boss manifold being ported put down 464 to the tires.
THE BEST REVIEW I EVER SEEN. 👍
Cobra Jet is the winner!
Thanks for the clear viewpoint, great video
IMRCs active of locked on the 2018? I installed a 2018 with locked IMRCs. I was told they are a pain to tune with them active.
CountBeefy kept mine active. Feels great
Great testing. Just bought a 18 manifold ported because of this data for my F150.
What was the numbers on the stock 15-17 GT manifold? They weren't mentioned after the pull or on any of the charts? Thanks @vmpperformance
Hey Chris, the truck and mustang stock manifold both made similar numbers, too close to discern a difference, and were down over 50rwhp at 7500rpm.
@@VMPPerformanceTV thank you!
This just proves the stock intakes are designed very good and are great Street intakes, of course if you’re going all out and racing and searching for every last tenth of a second then I can see the advantages of some of the other intakes, imho most people should just stick with The stockers, great torque and torque on the street makes it more fun for spirited driving where most avg people are going to be driving their cars, I’m all for going fast but if you’re getting to 7500 or 8200 on the street you’re going to be insanely speeding, just goes to show you you don’t have to do much to the new vehicles to be fast, Ford did a great job, my next 5.0 will be axle back, intake and ford tune, doesn’t need anything else!
Top Notch Informational Video. Thanks Guys! 👍👍
So glad I went with the 18 manifold. Saved a ton of cash and gained a bunch of power.
gzstang how was the install?
@@Teddyatlastwobrsincells Very easy.. just had to grind on the thermostat housing bolt to clearance and install imrc lockouts. You can watch the install on my channel.
You mite save money but lose a lot of power with adding e85.
@@tommylee7749 how much hp did the 18 manifold lose on E85?
Does engine cover still work with 18 manifold
Truck manifold wins, put up serious gains with no real loss to HP. Street engine needs it
$329 vs $1049 wow and they performed almost the same
Carlos Rodriguez it that the price for the 18 vs CJ???? I'm sure it's an extra few hundred dollars for port work.
I'm sure he was talking about the 18 and gt350 cost. But keep in mind, they didn't add the gt350 throttle body to it, that sucks in more air.
Well, Im thinking if the 18 has gt350 tb, its still gonna be badass and a better option for less.
The 18 intake was cnc ported how much was that?
Multiple tuners say that the gt350 throttle body provides no noticeable gains.
Dang I just got the jms throttleswap, vmp twin 67mm intake and jlt 120 mm CAI for my 2018 makes me wonder if I made the right choice I did add 4.09 gears and 1 7/8 header with high flow cats. How high will I be able to rev the motor safely and the actual HP gains I might see? Thanks awesome video.
Maybe I missed it or wasn't able to read between the lines ...you didn't seem to cover the issue of whether you needed or used larger than stock Throttle body (unless you covered that in the "ported" manifold)?
The factory 80 mm vs the GT350 87mm or one of the recent aftermarket versions...which are 90mm, 92mm+.
I've heard they give inconsistent (touchy!) street tuning problems - sensitivity? The 2015 - 2017 have factory control over the secondaries, I would not want to give that up by using the CJ manifold on a street driven car.
I settled on the GT350 with 87mm GT350 throttle body. ... and yes - it can be sensitive coming off throttle, but when monitoring the AF ratio, it works the 12.5 - 13.7 range during a full throttle pull just as you would expect. Recovery can be touchy - until the computer re-adjust to "street" driving mode again.
I decided to stay with the GT350 stage 3 kit.
What is the difference in performance from the stock BOSS 302 Intake in comparison to the ported BOSS 302 Intake? As with the Cobra Jet to the ported BOSS also? I am torn between the Ported Boss for looks vs the Cobra Jet...... my intentions are purely natural aspirated, no forced induction for me. Thanks!
I just did a ported boss 302 and it netted me 15rwhp on my 17. I lost some torque though.
Im kinda surprised how wavy all those dyno graphs are.. thats like up and down dips of 20hp/20lbft. Is that your dyno?? Makes it a lot harder to compare