What's going to hurt this game the most is people expecting a standard space sim similar to SC or X4 when this is a much more niche simulation of a starship in the style of Star Trek. If you don't know what that means then you aren't going to like this game. This is a game for people who want to crawl around Jeffries Tubes, fix complex faults in a warp core, and otherwise serve aboard a starship as if they were inside an episode of TNG.
I think that's the dragon that most of the starship crew simulators (in the vein of FTL) which have come out over the past ten years have been chasing. I think there's a big market for an honest to goodness TNG simulator
That's the thing that is so nuts and awesome about this game. He's not just bunging fake engines on and calling it a day. It's engines that connect to the systems they need to connect to. He's designing a full starship.
There is one real good use for the holodeck. Training and testing game features and updates. The back story would be that Earth HQ (Devs) want feedback from “certain crew members” about upcoming features, planets, items, tech etc. player for example gets a message from HQ to test an upcoming ground vehicle, shuttle or rifle for example. The crewman goes into the “holodeck” that is a 1 /1 replica of their ship in which to “test” the new item before it is added to a future update. So the holodeck could be remotely turned off and on by HQ and when “on” player can “visit” anytime they want when it is active. So if the item conflicts with the ship in some way it won’t “damage” the players actual ship only the holodeck version. On completion of task the player is asked to fill out a survey from the holographic bridge comm station about what they think of that item or what needs to be fixed or improved. That “survey” is sent back to HQ for the Devs to evaluate player feedback without recoding the game until they decide to add it later or not. In a sense it would involve the players as extra game testers. Payments could be a free item upgrade or “credits” for when they visit merchants etc. Say the sensors have a glitch. HQ turns on the HD to test code to see if it solves the glitch players are getting. If players say yes, the fix goes into the next game patch that their ship updated “while the player slept” when off line. In other words the holodeck could be a mini game tester/ player survey to see if it’s worth bringing into the real game. So if it were a rifle, the player. cannot carry it off their holodeck into their actual ship for example, but could test its ability to damage ship interiors and fake NPC crew instead of their own. So no loss of “real” crew or repair resources. So this way the holodeck version”clone” inside the players ship would not require any different coding of other “worlds” like Star Trek did it would just test and survey players about items, glitches,planets and future tweaks etc. thoughts?
I agree with about a holodeck, if you had to have one, I would just make it a logout room, so they can play another game or watch a movie while the game clock continued lol
As someone who loves this type of game but usually sticks with singleplayer or multiplayer with friends, the “this is a singleplayer game first” statement was such an incredibly reassuring one. Games like Barotrauma, Pulsar, Void Crew, etc are able to be played solo, but they’re obviously not designed to be. Happy to have a singleplayer first game in this genre.
Having played the demo for hours, I'm really excited to see what you guys are going to do! A proper simulator is sorely needed for Star Trek, where the ships are a very important part and occupy so much screen time and the technology and the lore behind it is very detailed and seems much more realistic and achievable when compared to stuff like Star Wars or 40K. But Fleetyard Studios be warned, people will compare Starship Simulator to Star Citizen a lot. While CIG has made a lot of questionable decisions, I think Star Citizen is still a great game despite requiring a different approach to playing it. I just want the devs to not be discouraged; people consume a lot of false stuff regarding Star Citizen and a lot of news regarding it is sensationalized for views. People are disappointed and have been let down by several developers lately and they are wary of new studios. Regardless, please continue doing what you have! I already love Starship Simulator and I'm sure things will improve even further. Cheers guys! LLAP.
Star Citizen lets you pay thousands of dollars for a game that isn't even in beta yet. They had a fully functional shop front before they had stable multiplayer. If they don't want to be sensationalised, they can start by not milking their customers for sensational amounts of money. There are projects that died on the vine because Star Citizen poisoned the well of crowdfunding, they have burned every last shred of goodwill they are due.
Single player campaigns, that's good news. I was afraid of this game being only multiplayer. Why didn't Star Trek owners didn't do such a game (STO is nowhere near that level) The hangar bay could work 'the old way' in Star Trek as well, it's just that they used forcefields in the shows to simplify screenplays but if you look at the main doors to the corridors, they are heavyduty doors that can whisthand sudden change of air pressure, essentially, the hangar bay is a huge airlock. Crew boards the craft, personnel evacuates the hangar, air is siphoned and the external door opens to let the craft go in or go out. To sum it up, no needs for a Force field, even in Star Trek because they also have external doors/curtains as well... As for holodecks, Star Trek doesn't use them only for recreation, they can have various uses such as criminal or archeological recreation enquiries, combat simulations... So those functiunalities can still be implemented into the game, (gaining experience for the crew, preparing for a mission, etc). For example, tutorials could ne run in such a room. We have VR now but in two hundred years? Holodeck is not toally out of possibility. A drawback could be implemented to limit it's use (massive drain on power for example as the ships don't use proper Warp Drives but just Fusion Drives which are much less potent theoritically) so they could be used only outside of FTL, when you lose the most time (when not moving, relatively speaking). And for special occasion, a special settinbg could be designed (festive meetings for the crew, etc), it would require a simple environment, sampled from those existing on planets. No need to create medieval programs or other games. Star Trek Discovery has something halfway through a Holodeck tech. Now let's hope that the devs didn't see too big on their promises. Don't do a KSP2, guys ! We'll wait and we will be watching, closely.
Well the Star Trek owners did sue a small dev team that was making an Enterprise D simulator called Stage9. I wonder if they thought bridge crew was actually the same type of game? A little asinine.
Devin Horner, you have no idea how hyped I am for it. If you were to advertise that you can add game modes where there is a saboteur or perhaps alien on board (in the style of Space Station 13) you will gain a HUGE community of people interested in this. You make a video explaining this possibility and watch the donations pour in. Trust me.
There will be a GM mode where the host can create various things, and if you join a MP game ( which you can do now), you'll find it's about 10 minutes until you get a saboteur 😂
I'm not even sure there would need to be a separate game mode; I think any interactions with other races always carries the risk of a possible intrusion, the same as when you interact with alien artifacts / technology - there's always a risk of a computer virus or some other nasty thing happening; though it would make for an uber cool game in its own right (which they may well implement). I'm also buzzed for the whole project - it looks like we will be able to do the things we longed to do in Star Trek games, but were not able to. There are live dev streams on Wednesday's and Sunday's at 8pm (BST) if you're interested in progress updates.
Welcome back to RUclips Devin, great star episode put on the channel. The words "captain's personal log" comes to mind in this one, would really love to think this is the future for humanity one day. It's great to see you back on RUclips, keep these incredible episodes on your channel coming, your Strike Fighters and Silent Hunter 4 campaigns are legendary, but this is very fun in it'self. Keep these incredible episodes coming and happy gaming mate 👍
This sounds amazing always wanted a starship game where every little thing, needs to be managed rather than just having a single ship with a basic healthbar and bare minimum things to manage. It would great if you had a character and could be any role on the ship such a lowly crewman, taking jobs from the AI department head or being a department head and sending out AI crewmen, to do jobs most ship games only have you as the captain or a bridge officer and that gets stale after a while.
I like the 200 player ship, forcing players to fufill different roles when they join a host. Like in w40k, army size and deployments are dictated by a point based system. So instead of levels, different points unlock different abilities.
This is exactly the kind of game I've been dreaming of. I only hope it is as good as they claim when it's finally released...some time in the next ten years.
About the holodeck: should a ship like this ever become a reality, I could very well see it having a holodock based on advanced VR tech. Think Sword Art Online.
4:55 one thing i will note is its not just an alpha build its a live dev build which should be emphasised as most early access titles don’t give access to dev builds at most they give a experimental/test build as a optional thing usually. To note an example of what that effects is when he was reworking the stair wells as well as some hall ways they were broken for us as well because dev builds include unfinished changes directly as it’s technically essentially the same build the devs run. I actually like it when they give access to the dev build because it makes feed back much more effective as well as allows us too see a lot more as it comes though i do prefer a stable build option to be there as well.
A holodeck could procedurally generate a planet surface like any other but without either the rewards or risks associated with an actual planet landing. And it could be restricted by what the player has already explored, so e.g. if you've never landed on a planet with trees before the holodeck won't generate them. Though that's becoming potentially overly cumbersome on dev time as you say.
@@Nitram4392 Which Enterprise?, actually having one based on the NX-01 would actually be interesting. Or an Interceptor class, as it's larger than a Nova class but still a smaller ship.
If implemented correctly, a holodeck could be useful. Not for recreation purposes, but for exploring low-priority, barren planets. A wraparound wall screen with projectors in the ceiling to project the ‘ground’ around someone flying one of those camera drones from security.
I hope we get the plethora of space anomalies we've seen in star trek (eventually). Honestly I dont want any star system that has a real name to be namable, I am happy for it to have an info tag that shows the name of the first x number of travelers there
A trick that could be used to make a sort of holodeck is an in-game computer portal where you can open other games you have linked to starship simulator, in that way, lets say you are travelling and waiting, you can play something else. Kinda roleplaying the fact that you are on a voyage
I’d love for this to be both single and multiplayer. Yes I could operate the ship “alone”, but I also want to be able to crew it with other actual people. I’d love to be the chief engineer or the helmsman.
You can take any role in the single player, so you can be the chief engineer or helmsman, and it will have multiplayer, so not sure what the point of your comment is, other than to show you did a sum total of 0 seconds of research.
I think wormholes could believably be adapted by an advanced civilizations in many ways, also a holo-deck is unequivocally within our own conceivable future, I would say well within 100-200 years we will have the ability to have completely realistic environments either played out in our cyber-brain or transmitted to our neural interfaces. It may not require a deck per se but consider one possibility that so much bandwidth can only be transmitted over very short distances and therefore you might setup a special location/room/deck for this specific activity ;)
As an added note I would love for many advanced technologies to be discovereable through exploration and sotialization with perhaps more advanced races in game :D
a holodeck realistically couldn't be made out of newtonian light, you would need some future tech capable of producing hard light points, but even that would be like touching a mirror. the only way a holodeck like in star trek would be feasible is if teleporter technology is developed, generate matter based on an atomic number generator that forms matter into what ever scene you want, then you would need an instant nuclear decaying process to re absorb all the matter that was created. holosex isnt all fun in games, these psycho paths using the holodeck in star trek are making living breathing creatures, using them, then zapping them into oblivion along with there left over DNA deposit potentially starting the process of creating life then nuking it into nothingness in a blink of an eye is insane. honestly holodecks in star trek should be alot more controversial in world. Rikers twin and James Moriarty coming to life are testaments to what could go wrong. instead of making more datas, they should just be cloning people and supplementing there military strength in times of need. virtual neural holodecks ala "Avatar" like you said would be the most feasible and least detrimental to human morality.
If this ship is suggested to alpha centauri extroplanets, their local Nordic neighbors are same to Procyonians. So travel distance would be 4.3 light years to 11.46 light years.
I bet conditional multiplayer kind of like Dark Souls could work. You could have things like, say, distress calls that result in an actual player showing up to help.
It needs interactive NPCS and crew members to talk too. Maybe it can use chatGPT or something so dialogue doesn't repeat so often. 5 smart crew members. And the rest are red shirts that is your basic NPCS.
They actually said there will be NPC crew members that will fill in any role the players won't be playing, and I think they said up to 8 people will be able to play, it was in a previous video, not sure about dialogue though.
This is the perfect time to be building a game like this. AI technologies are going to vastly increase our capacity to accurately simulate things like physics and motion, and can massively speed up development times. Exciting stuff
Actually I've heard that scientists are actually working on the Alcubierre warp drive, if they haven't actually secretly made it already, there is a patent on it, and NASA released fully detailed schematics of the ring, and they also had that 3D model of the NASA warp ship, and based on the current electrogravitic technology, it's also possible they've figured out gravity floor plates that creates an artificial pulling force on whatever is above the floor, a necessity for a long range FTL ship, so, the theoretical warp technology might actually be not so theoretical and more as under research and development.
The exponential energy requirement curve says we aren't going faster than light by any method of propulsion. We could get to .5c or .75c no problem but accelerating anything with mass from below to above C is still impossible, according to physics.
@@modelcitizen1977 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Alcubierre / Warp drive gets around that by compressing and expanding space time. The ship is not moving inside the bubble and you are not moving it faster than light speed. It's basically the precursor to "folding space" and making the distance between two points in space zero (aka "wormhole tech"). also @onidaaitsubasa artificial gravity plates are kind of hard to imagine. Then again you are compressing and expanding spacetime with the drive. That technology could theoretically also create an artificial gravity... not in every single floor plate though. That would be overkill for what it takes. I would imagine some "gravity generator" in the lower part of the ship.
Trouble is, while the fact the galaxy will barely be explored might sound appealing, it just kind of makes previously explored systems utterly useless, because you'll never be able to explore all previously explored ones, nor would it be in your benefit to do so, to the point where they may as well just be randomly generated on the fly. Like the more stars/planets there are to explore, the more insignificant each one becomes because you can only have so many variations, and each will likely be just as barren as the majority of Elite's are.
We've been discussed many random magnetic vacuum bubbles through aether among different galaxies, however, real-time Gaia Archives has provided tons of constellations but few to consider hyperspace between DERN and DAL universe. Of course, our nearest space journey might be doesn't including traveling between different twin universes. Moreover, the ship example you've mentioned in this vlog seems like modern vessel, so does it has links with time travel projects to some alternative timeline or the 32nd century federation starfleets? Thank you, keep it up.
Was thinking that myself, but don't worry.. our great host will get round to it when he can I'm sure, glad to share one of my fav series with you.. really am 👍
Curious about how the "Design an Alien Race" Reward would work. Like..will the Alien Race appear in the game? Will it be a civilization we can encounter? Or only something like Pre-FTL species? Or not even something phsyically in game but rather detailed text-only. I, personally, would love to pledge at that tier but theres so little info on how that (the main reward I would be interested in) would work. Especially since the galaxy is going to be proc-gened. EDIT: For me I have always loved the ocean and marine life. So really looking forward to when Oceanography and Marine BIology is possible.
I hope they don't fall into development hell that SC is currently in. Maybe we will actually get a finished game that can be improved on, than a glorified tech demo that Star Citizen currently is. BTW I hope SC is good, not a slight against the project but dangling a carrot for 10 years seems like a problem to me. This seems like my kind of game I mainly space truck in Elite Dangerous, so it would be cool to enjoy something like this.
The thing that surprised me is SC seems to be atleast somewhat back on track in the last year or so. Do note i said somewhat. In that content releases while never on original schedule are actually coming out in a fairly predictable manner. It helps iv never spent a cent on it past my original kickstarter and i would honestly encourage others not to buy the ships from the cash shop. if you only pay what it takes to play its very easy to get your moneys worth as is.
@@nathnathn I actually agree, this year in particular it has been pretty good. But it seems like they might miss some of the end of the year goals as is. Still looks at least somewhat promising that it seems like Chris Roberts is seeing the writing on the wall that the money well is starting to dry up. BTW I only have the pack that comes with Star Squadron so I have spent the minimum and would say the couple of successful missions I have done it has been fun. But still has a long way to go for sure.
The "free on release" model feels like a pipe dream, I'm cringing a little bit because I feel like they're just going to pull another star citizen with all these wild promises but you'll have to spend lots of money now.
that atmospheric laser will never work in space, you would have to have a , conforming tractor beam hold the shape of ejected "gas" like a police stun gun then initiate the charge firing the laser. thats why the shiva star of the marauder program was so deficient even in atmosphere. lol a self containing plasma ball like a miniature sun with its own micro gravity ejected out of a "plasma rail gun system" may be the only way for a plasma weapon to make any kind of contact. Maybe some form of hybrid physical torpedo that ejects gas behind it, could be fired at a target then the atmosphere is ignited like some un stabalized kylo ren light saber esque weapon system. capacitor probes with stun gun electable prongs to inject high level of energy into a ship may be more realistic.
Good luck, I am glad you made it this far. About character creators, if you are going to do it at least make it relevant. It is useless in most games. To be honest, only sims like games actually need it.
I believe new races are being created by the devs, and by kickstarter funders of a certain level. I don't think they're allowing the option for players to create races though you can always ask in their discord server.
A shape shifting goo type alien would be cool, especially since they are a part of mythology of creatures taking babies and leaving a changeling in place of the baby, also it's part of conspiracy theories about shape changing aliens that hide as humans currently on Earth.
@@onidaaitsubasa4177 Sounds cool. Suggest it on their discord server, but they may insist that you be a funder of a certain level. Doesn't pay to suggest though.
I love the idea but I don't see how they are planning to make it fun in my book. The game is in 3D and I seem to remember there are no deep interactions with the explored places and lifeforms planned, which I can understand from a cost perspective. But without that I don't see how exploration can be fun to anybody but a small niche demographic.
HOLODECK!!!! AI generated gaussians! Give it a few years we'll be able to say "generate a scene of XYZ" and the AI will generate it. It's not ready fir prime time yet but it will sure be ready before this game is ready
@@typhonplume9374 because when you are traveling vast distances, and find habitable but uncolonized planet, you would have a desire to have a colony there.
I actually don’t like design compared to the original. It’s very flat looking at the moment profile wise. But, it’s still a WIP so we’ll see how it goes.
The ring is fine bit the hull is too flat and too arrowhead shaped... i really liked the original design but this still isnt done yet so ill reserve judgement
Wills, wants, bleh, to many games with "it will be this, it will be that". just build the damn game, then Ill buy it after its completed if I like it. 😘
What hassle is in SC? They don't even have basic engineering fully implemented. That you have to go from bed to your ship and take off and do the same repetitive tasks? This is a game completely about engineering inside of a starship. I don't think this one's gonna be for you.
@@TheOtherMontoya It’s not just about engineering. You have a crew to do that if you want in Starship Simulator. You can actually do exploration or engineering or whatever but are not going to be forced to deal with B.S. micromanagement if you don’t want
SC's Kickstarter only ran for 4 months from Dec 2012 to Apr 2013. CIG dropped Kickstarter right after it raised $2 Million when they started their own in house crowd funding solution. CIG quickly realized that Kickstarter was going siphon off a lot of the funding as it showed no sign of slowing down about 2 months into the campaign and started working on their own solution. I was there when it happened and I'm still involved with it.
All was well, until the dreaded "hand-to-hand combat boarding action"... why would you need that in a single player/co-op game?! ...or if the inevitable folding to the crowd, introduces a multiplayer PvP gameplay, will we be able to prevent us from falling victim to "wannabe pirates" boarding our ships, because they can? 🤮
There is multiplayer combat but it's contained to a separate game mode from the main menu. The game is all focused on exploration. If someone joins your game that you don't want, then just brig them :)
If you call your ship Starship Simulator, I want slow ass ships with big asses sluggin' it out with railguns that take minutes to hit. Not some FPS gameplay.
StarCitizen have done this since 2012.. Why the hell would anyone throw them self at a new 20 year project that will probably cost 500-1000 million dollars.. The sum of money is realistic estimate.. 400k is a fart in a jar....
This game isn't trying to do what Star Citizen claims it is wanting to do, This isn't meant to be an everything game, it is meant to be a spaceship sim. With light management. Very viable to be created in 3-5 years. I am not going to say that they won't fall into the same development hole that SC is in, but I feel like they are more grounded in the ultimate goal than the crazy extent of all the stretch goals that we may not see in our lifetime with SC.
Realism doesn't get in the way of fun.. it get's in the way of people who don't understand they're not playing an fps, but a s-i-m. It's not right that those people always get what they want. Find your games! Don't ruin them!
What's going to hurt this game the most is people expecting a standard space sim similar to SC or X4 when this is a much more niche simulation of a starship in the style of Star Trek. If you don't know what that means then you aren't going to like this game. This is a game for people who want to crawl around Jeffries Tubes, fix complex faults in a warp core, and otherwise serve aboard a starship as if they were inside an episode of TNG.
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It kind of reminds me of Pulsar: Lost Colony, but the simulation is better and they don't have combat yet.
Exactly what I’ve been looking for. Always wanted my own Star Trek lol
@@ancapftw9113 Glad I'm not the only one who knows that game.
I think that's the dragon that most of the starship crew simulators (in the vein of FTL) which have come out over the past ten years have been chasing. I think there's a big market for an honest to goodness TNG simulator
That's the thing that is so nuts and awesome about this game. He's not just bunging fake engines on and calling it a day. It's engines that connect to the systems they need to connect to. He's designing a full starship.
There is one real good use for the holodeck. Training and testing game features and updates. The back story would be that Earth HQ (Devs) want feedback from “certain crew members” about upcoming features, planets, items, tech etc. player for example gets a message from HQ to test an upcoming ground vehicle, shuttle or rifle for example. The crewman goes into the “holodeck” that is a 1 /1 replica of their ship in which to “test” the new item before it is added to a future update. So the holodeck could be remotely turned off and on by HQ and when “on” player can “visit” anytime they want when it is active. So if the item conflicts with the ship in some way it won’t “damage” the players actual ship only the holodeck version. On completion of task the player is asked to fill out a survey from the holographic bridge comm station about what they think of that item or what needs to be fixed or improved. That “survey” is sent back to HQ for the Devs to evaluate player feedback without recoding the game until they decide to add it later or not. In a sense it would involve the players as extra game testers. Payments could be a free item upgrade or “credits” for when they visit merchants etc.
Say the sensors have a glitch. HQ turns on the HD to test code to see if it solves the glitch players are getting. If players say yes, the fix goes into the next game patch that their ship updated “while the player slept” when off line.
In other words the holodeck could be a mini game tester/ player survey to see if it’s worth bringing into the real game. So if it were a rifle, the player. cannot carry it off their holodeck into their actual ship for example, but could test its ability to damage ship interiors and fake NPC crew instead of their own. So no loss of “real” crew or repair resources.
So this way the holodeck version”clone” inside the players ship would not require any different coding of other “worlds” like Star Trek did it would just test and survey players about items, glitches,planets and future tweaks etc. thoughts?
I agree with about a holodeck, if you had to have one, I would just make it a logout room, so they can play another game or watch a movie while the game clock continued lol
Cacapoopoopeepee actually has a very nice resort with my favorite yellowish-brown margaritas.
As someone who loves this type of game but usually sticks with singleplayer or multiplayer with friends, the “this is a singleplayer game first” statement was such an incredibly reassuring one. Games like Barotrauma, Pulsar, Void Crew, etc are able to be played solo, but they’re obviously not designed to be. Happy to have a singleplayer first game in this genre.
it's basically like taking a tour through a film studio while it's being prepared before the filming
Having played the demo for hours, I'm really excited to see what you guys are going to do! A proper simulator is sorely needed for Star Trek, where the ships are a very important part and occupy so much screen time and the technology and the lore behind it is very detailed and seems much more realistic and achievable when compared to stuff like Star Wars or 40K.
But Fleetyard Studios be warned, people will compare Starship Simulator to Star Citizen a lot. While CIG has made a lot of questionable decisions, I think Star Citizen is still a great game despite requiring a different approach to playing it.
I just want the devs to not be discouraged; people consume a lot of false stuff regarding Star Citizen and a lot of news regarding it is sensationalized for views. People are disappointed and have been let down by several developers lately and they are wary of new studios.
Regardless, please continue doing what you have! I already love Starship Simulator and I'm sure things will improve even further. Cheers guys! LLAP.
Star Citizen lets you pay thousands of dollars for a game that isn't even in beta yet. They had a fully functional shop front before they had stable multiplayer. If they don't want to be sensationalised, they can start by not milking their customers for sensational amounts of money. There are projects that died on the vine because Star Citizen poisoned the well of crowdfunding, they have burned every last shred of goodwill they are due.
Single player campaigns, that's good news. I was afraid of this game being only multiplayer.
Why didn't Star Trek owners didn't do such a game (STO is nowhere near that level)
The hangar bay could work 'the old way' in Star Trek as well, it's just that they used forcefields in the shows to simplify screenplays but if you look at the main doors to the corridors, they are heavyduty doors that can whisthand sudden change of air pressure, essentially, the hangar bay is a huge airlock. Crew boards the craft, personnel evacuates the hangar, air is siphoned and the external door opens to let the craft go in or go out. To sum it up, no needs for a Force field, even in Star Trek because they also have external doors/curtains as well...
As for holodecks, Star Trek doesn't use them only for recreation, they can have various uses such as criminal or archeological recreation enquiries, combat simulations... So those functiunalities can still be implemented into the game, (gaining experience for the crew, preparing for a mission, etc). For example, tutorials could ne run in such a room.
We have VR now but in two hundred years? Holodeck is not toally out of possibility. A drawback could be implemented to limit it's use (massive drain on power for example as the ships don't use proper Warp Drives but just Fusion Drives which are much less potent theoritically) so they could be used only outside of FTL, when you lose the most time (when not moving, relatively speaking).
And for special occasion, a special settinbg could be designed (festive meetings for the crew, etc), it would require a simple environment, sampled from those existing on planets. No need to create medieval programs or other games.
Star Trek Discovery has something halfway through a Holodeck tech.
Now let's hope that the devs didn't see too big on their promises. Don't do a KSP2, guys !
We'll wait and we will be watching, closely.
Well the Star Trek owners did sue a small dev team that was making an Enterprise D simulator called Stage9. I wonder if they thought bridge crew was actually the same type of game? A little asinine.
Devin Horner, you have no idea how hyped I am for it. If you were to advertise that you can add game modes where there is a saboteur or perhaps alien on board (in the style of Space Station 13) you will gain a HUGE community of people interested in this. You make a video explaining this possibility and watch the donations pour in. Trust me.
There will be a GM mode where the host can create various things, and if you join a MP game ( which you can do now), you'll find it's about 10 minutes until you get a saboteur 😂
I'm not even sure there would need to be a separate game mode; I think any interactions with other races always carries the risk of a possible intrusion, the same as when you interact with alien artifacts / technology - there's always a risk of a computer virus or some other nasty thing happening; though it would make for an uber cool game in its own right (which they may well implement). I'm also buzzed for the whole project - it looks like we will be able to do the things we longed to do in Star Trek games, but were not able to. There are live dev streams on Wednesday's and Sunday's at 8pm (BST) if you're interested in progress updates.
Welcome back to RUclips Devin, great star episode put on the channel. The words "captain's personal log" comes to mind in this one, would really love to think this is the future for humanity one day. It's great to see you back on RUclips, keep these incredible episodes on your channel coming, your Strike Fighters and Silent Hunter 4 campaigns are legendary, but this is very fun in it'self. Keep these incredible episodes coming and happy gaming mate 👍
This sounds amazing always wanted a starship game where every little thing, needs to be managed rather than just having a single ship with a basic healthbar and bare minimum things to manage.
It would great if you had a character and could be any role on the ship such a lowly crewman, taking jobs from the AI department head or being a department head and sending out AI crewmen, to do jobs most ship games only have you as the captain or a bridge officer and that gets stale after a while.
Just found this videos the game sounds amazing I'm definitely gonna try out the demo to see how it feels
Ah boy we waited Star Citizen and still waiting and now we need to wait again but this game. We are playing a waiting game. 🤗
Awesome overview, thanks!
@DanGovier thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it. I really like supporting the project.
This game just makes me want a fullly explorable Star Destroyer simulator that much more...
I like the 200 player ship, forcing players to fufill different roles when they join a host.
Like in w40k, army size and deployments are dictated by a point based system.
So instead of levels, different points unlock different abilities.
If 200 crew members are maximum size to medium ship, there will be much more easier to multiple packages to ship traveling.
Really excited for this game, I wish all the success to the devs.
Looking great so far !! 🚀
Looking forward to this release ... on my Steam Wishlist.
This is exactly the kind of game I've been dreaming of. I only hope it is as good as they claim when it's finally released...some time in the next ten years.
About the holodeck: should a ship like this ever become a reality, I could very well see it having a holodock based on advanced VR tech. Think Sword Art Online.
4:55 one thing i will note is its not just an alpha build its a live dev build which should be emphasised as most early access titles don’t give access to dev builds at most they give a experimental/test build as a optional thing usually.
To note an example of what that effects is when he was reworking the stair wells as well as some hall ways they were broken for us as well because dev builds include unfinished changes directly as it’s technically essentially the same build the devs run.
I actually like it when they give access to the dev build because it makes feed back much more effective as well as allows us too see a lot more as it comes though i do prefer a stable build option to be there as well.
Really looking forward to this when it gets released
A holodeck could procedurally generate a planet surface like any other but without either the rewards or risks associated with an actual planet landing.
And it could be restricted by what the player has already explored, so e.g. if you've never landed on a planet with trees before the holodeck won't generate them. Though that's becoming potentially overly cumbersome on dev time as you say.
so basically this is like if star trek enterprise had TNGs over all design philosophy
One of the strech goals was modeling an enterprise as a playable ship, if I remember right, but because of copyright they couldn't.
@@Nitram4392 doesn't mean modders won't lol
@@Nitram4392 Which Enterprise?, actually having one based on the NX-01 would actually be interesting. Or an Interceptor class, as it's larger than a Nova class but still a smaller ship.
Curantly playing the demo its definatly a well thaight through game idea
If implemented correctly, a holodeck could be useful. Not for recreation purposes, but for exploring low-priority, barren planets. A wraparound wall screen with projectors in the ceiling to project the ‘ground’ around someone flying one of those camera drones from security.
Sort of a hollow-presence room, rather than a hologram room.
I hope we get the plethora of space anomalies we've seen in star trek (eventually). Honestly I dont want any star system that has a real name to be namable, I am happy for it to have an info tag that shows the name of the first x number of travelers there
A trick that could be used to make a sort of holodeck is an in-game computer portal where you can open other games you have linked to starship simulator, in that way, lets say you are travelling and waiting, you can play something else. Kinda roleplaying the fact that you are on a voyage
The new hull design is very Vulcan, I like it
I think the heat sinks should be on the outside of the ring, to radiate their heat into space when the warp drive is powered down.
Looks pretty good.
I’d love for this to be both single and multiplayer. Yes I could operate the ship “alone”, but I also want to be able to crew it with other actual people. I’d love to be the chief engineer or the helmsman.
That's the plan. In singleplayer you'll have AI crew members, while in multiplayer the different roles will be assigned to players.
You can take any role in the single player, so you can be the chief engineer or helmsman, and it will have multiplayer, so not sure what the point of your comment is, other than to show you did a sum total of 0 seconds of research.
It's even planned, that you can play a passenger and just watch the ship work.
if you give the demo a try, it already has MP, and we have a few role-play groups running regular games.
Wait, we get a Chicken on board? Someone's pet maybe?
I want a Captain Chicken.
I think wormholes could believably be adapted by an advanced civilizations in many ways, also a holo-deck is unequivocally within our own conceivable future, I would say well within 100-200 years we will have the ability to have completely realistic environments either played out in our cyber-brain or transmitted to our neural interfaces. It may not require a deck per se but consider one possibility that so much bandwidth can only be transmitted over very short distances and therefore you might setup a special location/room/deck for this specific activity ;)
As an added note I would love for many advanced technologies to be discovereable through exploration and sotialization with perhaps more advanced races in game :D
a holodeck realistically couldn't be made out of newtonian light, you would need some future tech capable of producing hard light points, but even that would be like touching a mirror. the only way a holodeck like in star trek would be feasible is if teleporter technology is developed, generate matter based on an atomic number generator that forms matter into what ever scene you want, then you would need an instant nuclear decaying process to re absorb all the matter that was created. holosex isnt all fun in games, these psycho paths using the holodeck in star trek are making living breathing creatures, using them, then zapping them into oblivion along with there left over DNA deposit potentially starting the process of creating life then nuking it into nothingness in a blink of an eye is insane. honestly holodecks in star trek should be alot more controversial in world. Rikers twin and James Moriarty coming to life are testaments to what could go wrong. instead of making more datas, they should just be cloning people and supplementing there military strength in times of need. virtual neural holodecks ala "Avatar" like you said would be the most feasible and least detrimental to human morality.
what about artificial gravity on the ship? was it really that hard to make a rotating section and not use rowing gravity magic?
If this ship is suggested to alpha centauri extroplanets, their local Nordic neighbors are same to Procyonians. So travel distance would be 4.3 light years to 11.46 light years.
Is there scientific literature about the artificial gravity on the starship?
I bet conditional multiplayer kind of like Dark Souls could work. You could have things like, say, distress calls that result in an actual player showing up to help.
It needs interactive NPCS and crew members to talk too.
Maybe it can use chatGPT or something so dialogue doesn't repeat so often.
5 smart crew members. And the rest are red shirts that is your basic NPCS.
They actually said there will be NPC crew members that will fill in any role the players won't be playing, and I think they said up to 8 people will be able to play, it was in a previous video, not sure about dialogue though.
This is the perfect time to be building a game like this. AI technologies are going to vastly increase our capacity to accurately simulate things like physics and motion, and can massively speed up development times. Exciting stuff
Actually I've heard that scientists are actually working on the Alcubierre warp drive, if they haven't actually secretly made it already, there is a patent on it, and NASA released fully detailed schematics of the ring, and they also had that 3D model of the NASA warp ship, and based on the current electrogravitic technology, it's also possible they've figured out gravity floor plates that creates an artificial pulling force on whatever is above the floor, a necessity for a long range FTL ship, so, the theoretical warp technology might actually be not so theoretical and more as under research and development.
The exponential energy requirement curve says we aren't going faster than light by any method of propulsion.
We could get to .5c or .75c no problem but accelerating anything with mass from below to above C is still impossible, according to physics.
@@modelcitizen1977 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Alcubierre / Warp drive gets around that by compressing and expanding space time. The ship is not moving inside the bubble and you are not moving it faster than light speed. It's basically the precursor to "folding space" and making the distance between two points in space zero (aka "wormhole tech").
also @onidaaitsubasa artificial gravity plates are kind of hard to imagine. Then again you are compressing and expanding spacetime with the drive. That technology could theoretically also create an artificial gravity... not in every single floor plate though. That would be overkill for what it takes. I would imagine some "gravity generator" in the lower part of the ship.
I hope this starship has bathrooms and toilets. I could not find these in demo version.
Let it be known that the colony CaCaPooPooPeePee has declared independence from its oppressive overlord Earth
will there be planets that you can land on with shuttlecraft or something?
That is planned yes.
Don’t they already have holodecks on their Orville game?
Trouble is, while the fact the galaxy will barely be explored might sound appealing, it just kind of makes previously explored systems utterly useless, because you'll never be able to explore all previously explored ones, nor would it be in your benefit to do so, to the point where they may as well just be randomly generated on the fly. Like the more stars/planets there are to explore, the more insignificant each one becomes because you can only have so many variations, and each will likely be just as barren as the majority of Elite's are.
We've been discussed many random magnetic vacuum bubbles through aether among different galaxies, however, real-time Gaia Archives has provided tons of constellations but few to consider hyperspace between DERN and DAL universe. Of course, our nearest space journey might be doesn't including traveling between different twin universes.
Moreover, the ship example you've mentioned in this vlog seems like modern vessel, so does it has links with time travel projects to some alternative timeline or the 32nd century federation starfleets?
Thank you, keep it up.
sweet summer child
Are you ever going to continue your RAF Meteor campaign I was really enjoying it.
I was going to ask about the SH4 series.
This series he’s doing rn might be very good though
Was thinking that myself, but don't worry.. our great host will get round to it when he can I'm sure, glad to share one of my fav series with you.. really am 👍
Any idea when the tech demo will get an update to reflect the stable parts of the dev. version?
As soon as the things being created now are polished. A couple of months.
Dan is looking to put out the next update on Christmas Eve.
Curious about how the "Design an Alien Race" Reward would work. Like..will the Alien Race appear in the game? Will it be a civilization we can encounter? Or only something like Pre-FTL species? Or not even something phsyically in game but rather detailed text-only.
I, personally, would love to pledge at that tier but theres so little info on how that (the main reward I would be interested in) would work. Especially since the galaxy is going to be proc-gened.
EDIT: For me I have always loved the ocean and marine life. So really looking forward to when Oceanography and Marine BIology is possible.
Maybe something like they did in Elite Dangerous.
I want to fly a space ship precisely because I'm looking to escape the tedium of work. What next? Starship Drain Unblocker?
As a dev in the UK, ~£400k ain't gonna last long
It won't, which is why it needs to spent extremely carefully :D
Nah im getting Star Citizen development and empty promises vibes here , iv heard all this no thanks Maybe in 10-15 years il come around
I may have to contact the dev
And offer my labor
I hope they don't fall into development hell that SC is currently in. Maybe we will actually get a finished game that can be improved on, than a glorified tech demo that Star Citizen currently is. BTW I hope SC is good, not a slight against the project but dangling a carrot for 10 years seems like a problem to me. This seems like my kind of game I mainly space truck in Elite Dangerous, so it would be cool to enjoy something like this.
SC has wasted too much time.
people aren't going to pay $300,000 for nothing to be done
The thing that surprised me is SC seems to be atleast somewhat back on track in the last year or so.
Do note i said somewhat. In that content releases while never on original schedule are actually coming out in a fairly predictable manner.
It helps iv never spent a cent on it past my original kickstarter and i would honestly encourage others not to buy the ships from the cash shop. if you only pay what it takes to play its very easy to get your moneys worth as is.
@@nathnathn I actually agree, this year in particular it has been pretty good. But it seems like they might miss some of the end of the year goals as is. Still looks at least somewhat promising that it seems like Chris Roberts is seeing the writing on the wall that the money well is starting to dry up. BTW I only have the pack that comes with Star Squadron so I have spent the minimum and would say the couple of successful missions I have done it has been fun. But still has a long way to go for sure.
The "free on release" model feels like a pipe dream, I'm cringing a little bit because I feel like they're just going to pull another star citizen with all these wild promises but you'll have to spend lots of money now.
Nope, the base game will be free. We want no barrier to anyone playing it. The DLC will be paid content because they'll cost more to create.
that atmospheric laser will never work in space, you would have to have a , conforming tractor beam hold the shape of ejected "gas" like a police stun gun then initiate the charge firing the laser. thats why the shiva star of the marauder program was so deficient even in atmosphere. lol a self containing plasma ball like a miniature sun with its own micro gravity ejected out of a "plasma rail gun system" may be the only way for a plasma weapon to make any kind of contact. Maybe some form of hybrid physical torpedo that ejects gas behind it, could be fired at a target then the atmosphere is ignited like some un stabalized kylo ren light saber esque weapon system. capacitor probes with stun gun electable prongs to inject high level of energy into a ship may be more realistic.
Good luck, I am glad you made it this far.
About character creators, if you are going to do it at least make it relevant. It is useless in most games. To be honest, only sims like games actually need it.
How will combat work? Will the game have hostile aliens?
Yea I’ll get it
I sincerely hope for the ability to create and play non-humanoid alien species characters.
I believe new races are being created by the devs, and by kickstarter funders of a certain level. I don't think they're allowing the option for players to create races though you can always ask in their discord server.
A shape shifting goo type alien would be cool, especially since they are a part of mythology of creatures taking babies and leaving a changeling in place of the baby, also it's part of conspiracy theories about shape changing aliens that hide as humans currently on Earth.
@@onidaaitsubasa4177 Sounds cool. Suggest it on their discord server, but they may insist that you be a funder of a certain level. Doesn't pay to suggest though.
Yeah, I'll be back in five years...
Yea, I think i'm fine with luxury. LOL
I wish I could play this.
Vr support?
I'm still not done with Elite Dangerous, but man I'm looking forward to this.
I love the idea but I don't see how they are planning to make it fun in my book.
The game is in 3D and I seem to remember there are no deep interactions with the explored places and lifeforms planned, which I can understand from a cost perspective.
But without that I don't see how exploration can be fun to anybody but a small niche demographic.
space engine is popular
@@doltBmBstarship evo is good
HOLODECK!!!! AI generated gaussians! Give it a few years we'll be able to say "generate a scene of XYZ" and the AI will generate it. It's not ready fir prime time yet but it will sure be ready before this game is ready
Can we setup colonies?
Why would there be colonies in a ship simulator?
@@typhonplume9374 because when you are traveling vast distances, and find habitable but uncolonized planet, you would have a desire to have a colony there.
No.
The ship is the main focus you can land on planets to do exploration, but there will be no base bulding.
@@Nitram4392 the faq says there will be colonization in planets, players will have some influence over them.
My real life is the holodeck.
Not sure why they decided to make their life harder making the game free.
Yeah. Choosing to not charge for the demo is one thing, but…
I actually don’t like design compared to the original. It’s very flat looking at the moment profile wise. But, it’s still a WIP so we’ll see how it goes.
The ring is fine bit the hull is too flat and too arrowhead shaped... i really liked the original design but this still isnt done yet so ill reserve judgement
NAH ITS COOL, MIRANDA CLASS AND A VULCAN DYKR, SHRAN CLASS HYBRID. MY ONLY COMPLAINT IS I LOATHE POINT PHASERS AND PREFER PHASER BANKS.
Bro has no taste in starship design
A fool and his money..
Always interesting to give a random stranger $500k. Are they good with money and budgets? Do they have previous games to build credibility?
VR please.
This
I think he said this was actually being considered.
Ok, I get it now, a new Star Citizen for years to come and millions of $ to make.
This is pretty much any game that comes out anymore.
No cause SC is a feature creep monster, this one is very tame with the exception of the amount of explorable planets.
SC is 12. Not 14 years in development. And no you can't count doodles on napkins prior to the Kick Starter.
THIS GUY IS A NERD
what?
Well its gana be much better than starfield
@marcobreedt1661 everything is better than starfield
star citizen. Without textures. 🤣
Wills, wants, bleh, to many games with "it will be this, it will be that". just build the damn game, then Ill buy it after its completed if I like it. 😘
Except it's going to be free, so there is nothing to "buy".
@@himitsumonban Oh, well I suppose that is workable! Now I see what happens when I don't do my own research before making comments like that, LOL. 😁
.06% is 6%. .6 is 60%
Please don’t “realism” this to death. I want more like Star Trek not Star Hassle (Star Citizen)!
What hassle is in SC? They don't even have basic engineering fully implemented. That you have to go from bed to your ship and take off and do the same repetitive tasks?
This is a game completely about engineering inside of a starship. I don't think this one's gonna be for you.
You don't know WTF ST is if you say it's less realistic than SC.
@@j.d.4697 I meant that Star Trek is a fun adventure while Star Citizen gets bogged down in time sinks and logistical slog
@@TheOtherMontoya It’s not just about engineering. You have a crew to do that if you want in Starship Simulator. You can actually do exploration or engineering or whatever but are not going to be forced to deal with B.S. micromanagement if you don’t want
Star Citizen ? how much has that made from kick starter, and probably wont ever have a release
SC's Kickstarter only ran for 4 months from Dec 2012 to Apr 2013. CIG dropped Kickstarter right after it raised $2 Million when they started their own in house crowd funding solution. CIG quickly realized that Kickstarter was going siphon off a lot of the funding as it showed no sign of slowing down about 2 months into the campaign and started working on their own solution. I was there when it happened and I'm still involved with it.
Never in my life i will spend on kick starter
Unless the one start it is my family or saved my life or my family or my dog's in law
Just wait until it's out and then play it for free :)
All was well, until the dreaded "hand-to-hand combat boarding action"... why would you need that in a single player/co-op game?! ...or if the inevitable folding to the crowd, introduces a multiplayer PvP gameplay, will we be able to prevent us from falling victim to "wannabe pirates" boarding our ships, because they can? 🤮
There is multiplayer combat but it's contained to a separate game mode from the main menu. The game is all focused on exploration. If someone joins your game that you don't want, then just brig them :)
If you call your ship Starship Simulator, I want slow ass ships with big asses sluggin' it out with railguns that take minutes to hit. Not some FPS gameplay.
@@connycontainer9459 Slow, tactical combat with big asses confirmed.
StarCitizen have done this since 2012.. Why the hell would anyone throw them self at a new 20 year project that will probably cost 500-1000 million dollars.. The sum of money is realistic estimate.. 400k is a fart in a jar....
I wouldn't hold Star Citizen as a model for anything. I've never done a cave mission that worked properly.
Star cit hasnt done shit since it launched, 20 years and a billion dollars on a game where you do nothing, nice one.
This game isn't trying to do what Star Citizen claims it is wanting to do, This isn't meant to be an everything game, it is meant to be a spaceship sim. With light management. Very viable to be created in 3-5 years. I am not going to say that they won't fall into the same development hole that SC is in, but I feel like they are more grounded in the ultimate goal than the crazy extent of all the stretch goals that we may not see in our lifetime with SC.
I hope realism doesnt get in the way of fun in their designs
Realism doesn't get in the way of fun.. it get's in the way of people who don't understand they're not playing an fps, but a s-i-m. It's not right that those people always get what they want. Find your games! Don't ruin them!
then simulator wouldnt be in the title
Simulator is literally realism reworded, it SIMULATES real life or as close to real life as possible.
Basically one big add? When does the gameplay start?