Well done! This brought back a lot of memories- especially the old pictures from carriers and of sailors wearing utilities! I do think it's worth pointing out that the Virginia-class SSNs no longer have helm/ planesmen, but instead of a pilot and copilot station to drive the ship.
In Star Trek they use an additional 360 degree bearing element called a "mark" at a right angle to the horizontal bearing to carry out 3D navigation e.g. come to 182 mark 3 zero means come to course 182, then come to the 30 degree mark on the vertical 360 degree range.
In Polish Navy, commander is actually above the captain and ranks equal to colonel in air force and army, while ltcmdr is equal to major. We also have a pretty interesting system of dividing ships into combat departments where each one is responsible for a different part of ship's overall action (dept. II - artillery, dept. V - engineering etc) and each of these departments has a "command post" ("stanowisko dowodzenia") eg dept V command post will be at the engine room control pannel, and "combat posts" like individual weapon mounts or damage control staging areas. Every combat post of every department has a given number of personnel assigned, each with their own individual billet number and to that billet is assigned a given responsibility. Unti the 1990s sailor fatigues had a plaque sewn to the front bearing the number of the department, number of the post and the sailor's individual billet number. Identical system is used in the Russian navy and the USSR successor states
Thanks for sharing! Really interesting, definitely outside my knowledge base. Over the years of researching Cold War stuff I've learned a little about Soviet air forces organization, but still don't know much about the Navy system
Inboard/outboard is afaik not used for towards or away from centerline but rather inside and outside the hull. An ouborder engine is one of those you hang on outside of your small boat.
My guy, firstly: thanks for your service. Secondly, since this is going to be a civilian exploration vessel, I think he's going to go with the civilian equivalents of naval ranks/stations (or some variation thereof).
Great episode Devin, it'd be awesome to think this sort of thing might be the future of humanity, the generation of the far distant future will look back and imagine this sort of thing and imagine how we used to dream. Great images of actual naval vessels, the carrier images are incredible. Great treat on the channel, as a sci-fi lover who grew up with the original trilogy and the prequels of Star Wars ( none of that terrible new crap ), this was truly excellent - thanks a lot. P.S - that was a fantastic history lesson also at the beginning.
@devinhorner2358 Your doing a truly fantastic job, your channel is literally among the best and thanks again for your advice when I first got Strike Fighters 2 installed, the Red Hammer campaigns assisted me greatly for my real campaigns. You stay safe, have a cold one on me and happy gaming mate 👏👍
When I was aboard the "Jammin' John" less that a few months, working on my DC Quals and hoping to ouck up some collateral duties like I had on the Flint, I managed tonget a few minutes at the Ship Control Console. It was amazing that the Navy at that time entrusted enlistedmen to be both the Halm and Lee Helm. A Sailor on watch, at that station, was called the Ship Control Console Operator. The SCCO still took orders from the OOD or CONN (Conning Officer), and used the throttled and steering trick wheel to out the ship on the ordered course and speed. During stationkeeping, mooring, and pushing off from the pier, we used our Auxiliary Propulsion Units, 250 or 350 HP, IIRC). The reason the FFG-7s had the SCC was due tonthe Admiral Zumwalt Hi-Low mix of fleet composition. FFG-7s were on the low-mix side, had fewer crew, more automation, and less traditional Ship Manning Document sections/regs. But, generally, the same level of work expectations. BUT, word got back to my RMC ehat I did, and he ripped me one. We Radiomen were derisively called prima Donas. RMC was pissed because my seeking helm qualifications could set a precedent and cause RMs to have to stand deck watches, bear a hand during Special Sea and Anchor Detail, etc. He already didn't like it that we had to contribute to working parties, then we had to stand In-Port Quarterdeck watches. I then sought Petty Officer of the Watch qualification, as I was an E-4 intent on being more than just an RM going on E-5. (Reason for us to not stand regular watches? We had to keep our fingers available for use onnthr Teletypes in case we had to report being sunk. Note: he wasn't just the Chief Radioman. He was also the Command Master Chief. He was politically savvy and was literally 50+ yo. We joked that each of the ~6 stripes on his cuff were for *8* years. He didn't like that. Earlier, on the Flint, in one year, as an E-3, I'd qual'd as Messenger of the Watch, Petty Officer of the Watch; Armed Rover/Security Patrol (Flint was nuke-calable, as an ammo ship), Security Alet Team, Backup Alert Force, Reserve Force; Helm, Lee Helm, Captain's Phone Talker; Deck Yeoman, 1st Dvn; First Aid, Flying Squad (elite pre-GQ call for damage control), Helo Chock and Chainman and Cargo Handler; Repair Locker Plotter. So, on the "Jammin John", I thought I could be the same kind of A-J, Squared-Away sailor. My chief out a dent in that really fast. Only consolation was I got to be the resident terrorist, to add spice to the usually boring TyCom daily Security Alerts. I made scenarios that put a dent in the 15-minute evolution and made them last 40+ minutes. After using 6 or 8 times, and being live locked-and-loaded on in an Aux Machinery space, the returned to using the boring TyCom/DesRon 1 manual.
Well done! This brought back a lot of memories- especially the old pictures from carriers and of sailors wearing utilities!
I do think it's worth pointing out that the Virginia-class SSNs no longer have helm/ planesmen, but instead of a pilot and copilot station to drive the ship.
Oh that's an interesting development!
In Star Trek they use an additional 360 degree bearing element called a "mark" at a right angle to the horizontal bearing to carry out 3D navigation e.g. come to 182 mark 3 zero means come to course 182, then come to the 30 degree mark on the vertical 360 degree range.
In Polish Navy, commander is actually above the captain and ranks equal to colonel in air force and army, while ltcmdr is equal to major. We also have a pretty interesting system of dividing ships into combat departments where each one is responsible for a different part of ship's overall action (dept. II - artillery, dept. V - engineering etc) and each of these departments has a "command post" ("stanowisko dowodzenia") eg dept V command post will be at the engine room control pannel, and "combat posts" like individual weapon mounts or damage control staging areas. Every combat post of every department has a given number of personnel assigned, each with their own individual billet number and to that billet is assigned a given responsibility. Unti the 1990s sailor fatigues had a plaque sewn to the front bearing the number of the department, number of the post and the sailor's individual billet number. Identical system is used in the Russian navy and the USSR successor states
Thanks for sharing! Really interesting, definitely outside my knowledge base. Over the years of researching Cold War stuff I've learned a little about Soviet air forces organization, but still don't know much about the Navy system
Inboard/outboard is afaik not used for towards or away from centerline but rather inside and outside the hull. An ouborder engine is one of those you hang on outside of your small boat.
Really cool, I would really like to see more.
My guy, firstly: thanks for your service. Secondly, since this is going to be a civilian exploration vessel, I think he's going to go with the civilian equivalents of naval ranks/stations (or some variation thereof).
Great episode Devin, it'd be awesome to think this sort of thing might be the future of humanity, the generation of the far distant future will look back and imagine this sort of thing and imagine how we used to dream. Great images of actual naval vessels, the carrier images are incredible. Great treat on the channel, as a sci-fi lover who grew up with the original trilogy and the prequels of Star Wars ( none of that terrible new crap ), this was truly excellent - thanks a lot. P.S - that was a fantastic history lesson also at the beginning.
Thanks, Joe, as always! You know I love the history stuff and I'll find a way to include it in anything
@devinhorner2358 Your doing a truly fantastic job, your channel is literally among the best and thanks again for your advice when I first got Strike Fighters 2 installed, the Red Hammer campaigns assisted me greatly for my real campaigns. You stay safe, have a cold one on me and happy gaming mate 👏👍
He is a helmsman not a pilot. A spaceship captain/OOD gives course orders like a ship not a plane.
I agree, good distinction there
When I was aboard the "Jammin' John" less that a few months, working on my DC Quals and hoping to ouck up some collateral duties like I had on the Flint, I managed tonget a few minutes at the Ship Control Console. It was amazing that the Navy at that time entrusted enlistedmen to be both the Halm and Lee Helm. A Sailor on watch, at that station, was called the Ship Control Console Operator. The SCCO still took orders from the OOD or CONN (Conning Officer), and used the throttled and steering trick wheel to out the ship on the ordered course and speed. During stationkeeping, mooring, and pushing off from the pier, we used our Auxiliary Propulsion Units, 250 or 350 HP, IIRC).
The reason the FFG-7s had the SCC was due tonthe Admiral Zumwalt Hi-Low mix of fleet composition. FFG-7s were on the low-mix side, had fewer crew, more automation, and less traditional Ship Manning Document sections/regs. But, generally, the same level of work expectations.
BUT, word got back to my RMC ehat I did, and he ripped me one. We Radiomen were derisively called prima Donas. RMC was pissed because my seeking helm qualifications could set a precedent and cause RMs to have to stand deck watches, bear a hand during Special Sea and Anchor Detail, etc. He already didn't like it that we had to contribute to working parties, then we had to stand In-Port Quarterdeck watches. I then sought Petty Officer of the Watch qualification, as I was an E-4 intent on being more than just an RM going on E-5. (Reason for us to not stand regular watches? We had to keep our fingers available for use onnthr Teletypes in case we had to report being sunk. Note: he wasn't just the Chief Radioman. He was also the Command Master Chief. He was politically savvy and was literally 50+ yo. We joked that each of the ~6 stripes on his cuff were for *8* years. He didn't like that.
Earlier, on the Flint, in one year, as an E-3, I'd qual'd as Messenger of the Watch, Petty Officer of the Watch; Armed Rover/Security Patrol (Flint was nuke-calable, as an ammo ship), Security Alet Team, Backup Alert Force, Reserve Force; Helm, Lee Helm, Captain's Phone Talker; Deck Yeoman, 1st Dvn; First Aid, Flying Squad (elite pre-GQ call for damage control), Helo Chock and Chainman and Cargo Handler; Repair Locker Plotter. So, on the "Jammin John", I thought I could be the same kind of A-J, Squared-Away sailor. My chief out a dent in that really fast. Only consolation was I got to be the resident terrorist, to add spice to the usually boring TyCom daily Security Alerts. I made scenarios that put a dent in the 15-minute evolution and made them last 40+ minutes. After using 6 or 8 times, and being live locked-and-loaded on in an Aux Machinery space, the returned to using the boring TyCom/DesRon 1 manual.
This sounds fascinating but I'm really put off by the godawful generated images