Autofocus Settings for Action: Ask David Bergman
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Today's question: ""With the new Canon 1DX Mark III, what is the best focus method for a moving subject?""
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"AF On" button. Have not used before. Going to try for sports action. Hopefully a game changer!. Thank you
Thanks for a deeper look at some of the mark III features and how to keep a better focus on moving subjects. Can't wait for you to due a more in-depth look at the mark III 1dx.
OMG you're an expert camera angel. I'm going to a concert shoot today and your tutorial is going to be used. I am getting ready to change those settings i currently have and now I'm excited to see the difference. I do believe that I do exceptional with photography but with these tips OMG I should be pretty much perfect. The way you explain is not confusing, it makes good clear sense and I'm able to follow what you are saying. NO WONDER you have that beautiful camera in hand......LOL......can't wait to listen to other videos you have done, would love to work with you.
Thanks so much for this excellent and to-the-point tutorial on this topic. It finally cleared up all the confusion I was having on optimizing the focus settings on my 1d Mk III
Great information as always David - back button auto focus is a game changer
For sure!
Great video David! Thank you.
Fantastic! I have been shooting for many years but never used back finger focusing aND my new- used camera is set up for that.
Thanks David what a great video lots to learn buddy Shalom
My R6 mirrorless (released after this tutorial) really drills down on options; helpful, but a little more confusing, too. Question: what does the asterisk button do, next to the AF? I've read up on it and tried stuff, but yours are the clearest explanations so far.
Your intro for Ask David Bergman, it's short, it's quirky, it's fun and it's probably one of my favourite intros on RUclips. Just saying.
Brad MacMillan Thanks!!
I have a Panasonic GH5 as well and I love that you can expand the focus zone with the same control that handles the aperture. It's great. You can just toggle the zone really small to large and the little squares on the LCD get farther apart. Wish my 1dx mark iii had that.
Hi Dave. Excellent video. I have a quick question. Does the face detect option work when you select the AF points in AI Servo? In other words, if I select 4 points for example and in Servo will face detect work while I track the subject? Or does one have to select all the points and the camera will select which point(s) is appropriate ?
Awesome information
Super helpful! Question. Is face tracking the best when taking a photo of multiple runners?
Once the runner passes, will I need to quickly switch off of face tracking to get them in focus from their back side?
Thank you!
Thank you!
thanks listening to you was superb.. By the way I can't find the eye detection menu in my 1dxmarkiii.. can u please advise.. and why would u use EOS R menu,where eye detection is shown.. 1dx markiiii dunt have that menu..
Nice explanation.. but I'm confused as to choose which AF expansion mode as there are 3 such modes.
Thank you 😄
After watching this, I’m trying to decide between 1DX Mk3 and R5. I most shoot photos and not much video. I usually shoot events, so very dark places and people moving fast. With my 6Dii, 5 out of 10 shots are blurred & can’t use them. If money is not an issue, which one do u think is better?
I use my camera mostly for family pics, grandkids sports and special functions, so I’m not a professional by no means, I simply want my pics to turn out great, nothing deep or too difficult! I have a Canon EOS 60 D and use to try shooting in P, TV, AV or M but had too many problems with my pics turning out even descent, so I started shouting in AUTO MODE, so it takes the thinking out! Lol! And was then having trouble with focus when shooting my granddaughters basketball games, so hopefully with the advice of your video today, I won’t have that probably anymore! Thank you for sharing your knowledge! 👍😉
Do you have any other suggestions for settings when taking pics at the basketball games?
Auto exposure is good when you're starting, but it can be fooled too easily based on the contrast in the scene. My approach to exposure is in another recent video I did here: ruclips.net/video/Dyhtt3eAn3g/видео.html
As for focus, I hope I covered most of it in the video! :)
Thank you!!! I am thinking shutter speed would also be a factor in getting sharp focus of subjects running toward you? By the way, your model was fun to watch :)
Yes - the faster the shutter speed, the better chance of freezing action. But that's separate then focus.
I'll let Andreas know! :)
Yes, model looked like he was having fun!!!
With anything over 1/800 you should be capable of freezing the action!
@@lyaxedm1825 Unless you are trying to capture a moving object that is not a person, such as a ball, a disc, etc.
The AF menu you show in this video is not the same AF screen on my Canon 1DX.The first screen shows the different cases, tracking sensitivity and access/decel tracking. I wish I could find this screen and set eye detection but the menu you show, I cannot find anywhere on my Canon 1DX Mark III. I have been struggling with getting crisp focus with this camera and sure it is something I am failing to do and would love to figure out where I am missing! I would greatly appreciate any feedback on how you are setting eye detection on the 1DX MarkIII
Hi David,,, I just seen your latest vlog,,, Re, the canon 1DX mk 3,, As your a canon ambassador ??? do Canon give you a full demo of that camera Or do they just leave you to get on with it. I suspect they will demo it for you first.
They got me up to speed with a couple of the newest functions, but I have spent a lot of time digging around and trying different things to see what works best for me.
Interesting video! Is there a way about not using a button to constant focusing when you are in AI Servo mode, and leave the camera just doing focus without press constantly the button? I'm referring to video mode! Thanks! :-)
Yes. When you are in video mode, some new options appear in the menus. Go to "move servo AF" and switch it to "enabled." Viola!
@@DavidBergmanPhoto - first i've heard of this mode - nice information.
Thank you for this...I know nothing of the Canon ecosphere...been shooting Nikon for 20+ years but they just can’t get it done anymore and that 1DXIII is everything I have ever wanted in a flagship body.
Yea, it's pretty awesome!
Hello David, nice tuto. Do you have similar tips for Nikon camera (AF-C...) ? I have a d750 and it doesn't have a eye detection. Which mode would you advise to use for fashion, portrait photography and sport when subject is moving and you want to keep eye sharp, especially at F/1.4..F/2.8 ?
Marc Labro On Nikon, the equivalent to Servo mode is “continuous.” There are other settings of course, but I since I don’t shoot Nikon, I don’t know what they all are.
Wider apertures require the AF point to be pre-selected (and subject's eye kept there) if you don't have eye-AF to track exactly that eye. Easier for portraits, less so for fashion, not practical for action.
For sports, get as close as you can so that your wider focal length increases depth of field without giving up as much light (and shutter speed!) as a smaller aperture will. Increased depth of field = fewer requirements on AF points or even proper focus.
Hi David - Q: with the new AF-On Button - are we still limited to AF+AE? I was really hoping the AF-On could be AF only, and not re-meter when pressed as it does w/ the 1D4 and 1DX2.
Also, you said, "by default, the AF-On is set for AF...so, no longer do we have to go into the menu and set it up (removing AF from the shutter buttton?) as we did w/ the 1DX2
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I have lesser EOS models: Elan II, Elan 7e, and 50D. In each case, whichever button does back button focus, that's _all_ it does. My rear AF button won't additionally re-meter on any of them. I vaguely recall AF+AE being a configurable _option_ for the rear button?
I can separately remove AE from my shutter buttons but all that does is make me use the rear AE lock to meter. I don't have enough right hand thumbs for that, in practice. As it is I struggle with remembering to "manually focus" with the back button AF technique. :)
All he's saying about the AF-On button is that the button already turns AF on _by default_ . (If it did not do so by default, out of the box the button would literally do nothing.) What I think he's NOT saying is that it's got nothing to do with AE since that's still by default controlled by the shutter button.
In ALL cases for ALL cameras (for back button AF to have always-on/always-off control) ya gotta leave the camera in Servo (or whatever tracking mode is called for other brands.)
Great
I have an SL2. No AF ON button.
There is a custom function menu to modify what the * button does. I set it to AF. What focus mode should I use? servo?
I would use servo, yes. And very smart to program the star button.
4:19 "if you use a tiny spot you gotta keep that sucker right on your subject" and therein lies the benefit of shooting and getting experience. In sports shooting this can be tough. Thanks for the videos.
Unfortunately David never gives the full answer to a question. If you are shooting a sporting event you would use zone focusing and most likely case 2. See the Peter Read Miller's demo using actual pictures from a live football game, ruclips.net/video/5EHx_tZLCjQ/видео.html. Skip to 3:15 of the video if you don't want to watch the whole thing. Case 2 is found in the Canon 1dx mark iii white paper: Case 2 - Continue to track subjects, ignoring possible obstacles
Reduced Tracking Sensitivity… camera will tend to “lock-on” to an initial moving subject, and
if there’s an interruption or sudden change during AI Servo AF, resist changing to new
subjects.
Yea, I've been doing this a long time. But with a 400 or 600mm lens on a moving subject, it's not easy to stay right on the face! The slight expansion helps a lot.
Raymond Wright I personally don’t like zone focus because then the camera focuses on whatever is closest. If someone is running, then it is more likely to pick up their arm when it goes in front of their body, instead of staying on the face. With the mark 3, I am beginning to trust the face / head detection, but with any other camera, I would use the af expansion. I delve a bit deeper into what the case modes do in an earlier video: www.askdavidbergman.com/20190227-sports-focus/
@@DavidBergmanPhoto since you were making reference to the 1DX Mark 3, the focus is even more exact. I haven't used any camera in this matter lower than the 5D mark 3. When it is combined with case 2, I have had very little problems. It also seems to work quite well for Peter Read Miller, former Sports Illustrated photographer. Please see his video on RUclips at ruclips.net/video/5EHx_tZLCjQ/видео.html. He used this camera at an actual football game and has proof of it's exactness. I tried the link that you provided above, but was not able to see the video. However, I see the person was asking about their 7d Mark 2 and under equipment used I see 1DX Mark 2. I think it would be helpful to use the same or similar equipment when answering the question(s). This is equivalent to some one asking about driving a stick shift and you give them examples of driving a formula 1 car. That is what throws me off the few times I have seen your videos. I am expecting a higher level discussion to match the equipment you are using. Thank you.
@@DavidBergmanPhoto I finally got the video link to play. I agree with everything you stated in the video. You explained it perfectly. I use the nine point focusing for baseball and the zone for gymnastics pictures. raywrightphotography.com/baseball-1.
Great primer. Is there a demonstrable difference in usability between shutter-focus versus back-button focus? Is one faster or more accurate than the other?
Terry, back button focus is more accurate for moving subjects and recomposing. If you are shooting a stationary subject, it doesn't matter.
BBF is a total life changer. If you're not using it, you have to try it. It changed my world.
Back button feels more natural once you get used to it. Also - it is slightly faster in most cases because you can hold it down constantly. Then, whenever you push the shutter down, it doesn't have to first find focus and then shoot since it's already in focus.
@@DavidBergmanPhoto I'll have to give it a try. I've always used the shutter button but the newspaper photogs I've worked with swear by back-button. Thanks for the reply!
i've used shutter button focus for years, and when switched to back button focus, i preferred it. In my experience, though, it wasn't 'faster' since both shutter and af-on "focus and meter" when you 1/2 press. Instead, the BBF allows full pressing without releasing the shutter, so, you use more often, and under harried circumstances, and not worry about taking a picture when you didn't mean to.
But the biggest benefit for me is when i release the button, thats where the focus stays - like a focus lock. So, then, i can keep pressing the shutter for different exposure readings without changing the focus point (which you can't do with shutter button focus.)
With a slight grain of salt: the back button focus is perhaps great for RIGHT eye dominant people, preferrably w/o glasses. For LEFT eye dominant people with glasses (like me, for instance), using back button focus becomes a pain in the donkey.
Also, the grip on the camera is slightly lessened while the thumb is out and about.
I sometimes wish instructors would present BBF more like an 'option" rather than being 'the right and reasonable thing'.
For fast football video action face detection or zone ??
What's the difference between using the AF-On button and the * button next to it?
Hello. One question: the continuos focus or servo mode works only if the camera stay in landscape position or in portrait position too? Thany you. Love your youtube channel inside Adorama
It doesn't matter as long as you are using back button focusing. I think I know what you are asking. Due to the fact that there are two sets of controls once you release the portrait mode and switch to the landscape, will you have to refocus? the answer is yes. The back button focus is faster to achieve the focus once more of a moving subject. If they are standing still no problem, it will be the same. Lower models will not have this problem because you will be using the same button to focus.
It works either way!
@@DavidBergmanPhoto thank you
So it seems the best of both worlds is back button focus + AI servo mode. Allows the camera to track the subject when they're moving and lock focus when taking finger off back button.
correct (at least from the second sentence when you note "...allows the camera...button" ;) )
I wanna Ask you .. i have Canon 1d-C how i can use the focus tracking on Video?
I have 4 years searching for an answer
You cannot, on auto in stills
"remove the focus from the shutter" is this a specific 1dx mk3 function available in settings? Or you just turn off the autofocus on the lens and then use this button?
i believe its one of the custom function settings :)
While i dont know if 'how to use back button focus' has been upgraded in this X3, i can confirm the feature isn't limited to the 1DX3... even my Canon T1i had it back in 2010. You go into the settings and tell the camera to use the shutter button for "Exposure meter + triggering the shutter", and then, tell the camera to move the "focus + exposure meter" to the AF-ON button.
So far in my experience, no canon camera is able to use the AF-On button for just AF-On; its always AF-On+Exposure metering.
I hope this version gives us " AF-On only"
Hello Mr. David, do you have online classes ?
So are these modes you’re talking about while you’re camera is in AUTO MODE, or a different one? Please help!!
IYouhave to go to the focusing feature in your camera and set it yourself.
Auto mode is usually about exposure control - how bright or dark your image is. That's separate from focus settings. My suggested approach to exposure is in another video here: ruclips.net/video/Dyhtt3eAn3g/видео.html
Could you do the same for NIKON D800E? Thanks in advance!
As a Canon Explorer of Light, I don't know the current Nikon system too well. But it does have similar settings. For example. "One shot vs AI Servo" is "Single vs Continuous" in Nikon and Sony.
its probably the same just with different names for everything.
Are there really 1DXIII owners who don't know this? I really hope people spending so much on a camera have this base knowledge
yeah that would be a tragedy. I'll take that 10k camera off their hands and give them my 5D3
You'd be surprised. :)
Well nobody owns the camera because it wasnt released yet so what do you think.
Timothy B basic*
haha - @Ray Valdez Photography - stole my answer to your question... but i'd add, the only reason 1D users are watching these videos is to learn if the new features are worth an upgrade... so, Bravo for David posting this basic stuff.
Final credits on what kinda forever, bonus scene
Isn't it practical to simply use the servo mode all the time? Even for static subjects? I'm a little confused.
If servo is on all the time then it would be harder to use the focus and recompose method for cameras with fewer focus points.
@@PewPewDave If back button focus is pressed the entire time you are recomposing your subject, focus should be fine, shouldn't it? Holding down the back button focus locks the focus square in position even while on servo.
@@Mo.Jo. If you keep back button pressed entire time, camera will re-focus as you recompose the frame. You would need to press back button until you lock focus on your desired subject, then release back button and recompose.
I used servo mode all the time. For statis subjects, I simply push it to focus on the plane I want, then let go. Focus will be locked at that point so I can recompose if I want and shoot away.
i heard it doesnt work that well for static objects since the camera expects it to move
You know when you visit a tourist trap & there’s always people doing characatures of people, I bet they love you.
What about nikon dslr cameras?
Nikon has very similar settings. For example. "One shot vs AI Servo" is "Single vs Continuous."
Try this ruclips.net/video/R1aUw3_WUBQ/видео.html.
If you have that camera, and don't know, your teachers have failed you.
Take a shot every time “David Bergman” is said. Good luck.
I've a nikon d3500.
Bubai onlinemanual.nikonimglib.com/d3500/en/09_more_on_photography_05.html
4:40 yeah i want that in my 6dmk2 soooo much...and yes, a bigger af-area^^ :/
I have a eos 60D😂
My Elan II with its 3 AF points and the same Servo mode sees your newer, fancy tech and realizes not much has changed except for the # of keepers. With my 50D, my biggest challenge is remembering to actually keep my thumb on the AF On button.
Make that two challenges, I often forget to use a fast enough shutter. Make that three challenges, most of my lenses are slow. Sorry, I meant 4 challenges; I'll shoot in low light also. Are we having fun yet? Forget it, where's my iPhone?
Yet another Canon-centric video.
Shane Baker I am a Canon Explorer of Light so most of my gear is Canon. The viewer asked a specific question about a Canon model but, as I said, the information applies to other brands as well.
If you buy a 6k camera and don't know how to use it for action........... Go ahead ,do yourself a favor and analyze the desition that your are about to make next because it may not be as good as you think.
Ivan Kiefer It happens more than you might think.
"You're going to make pictures that are sharp no matter how fast your subject is moving"
Shows image with eyes totally out of focus.
How on earth would anyone who doesn't know these type of simple things be buying a camera that expensive?
Some people have more money than sense ~~
R1ku Exposures You’d be surprised!
@@paullouismosley Or some people are serious about starting out, have the money and want to get the best straight away!
Absolutely no reason to demo focus on a camera like that. Sure principles will be the same but behave.