12 Beam Skills NO ONE Performs in 2024

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
  • #gymnastics #sports #gymnast #beam #olympics #rare
    Meet 12 skills no one performs in 2024:
    - The Phillips;
    - The Worley;
    - The Li Spin;
    - The Baitova;
    - Double Front Dismount;
    - The Tousek;
    - The Homma;
    - The Colussi;
    - The Preziosa;
    - The Zamolodchikova;
    - The Li Mount;
    - The Teza I.
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  • @gymnasticsmasterclass
    @gymnasticsmasterclass  2 месяца назад +52

    What's your favorite skill off this list?

    • @Annie-rw2ec
      @Annie-rw2ec 2 месяца назад +12

      The preziosa, so elegant. Plus Elisabetta is a super generous kind person and athlete ❤

    • @EstherC-gz7co
      @EstherC-gz7co 2 месяца назад +8

      The Preziosa and... the Worley !

    • @leelab8307
      @leelab8307 Месяц назад +5

      I love the Culussi and the Presioza

    • @leelab8307
      @leelab8307 Месяц назад +3

      Preziosa

    • @annaeubanks7080
      @annaeubanks7080 Месяц назад +17

      Li spin, always 😊

  • @johnboyzan3304
    @johnboyzan3304 Месяц назад +1127

    Over 400 registered skills on balance beam and we see the same 15 or 20 skills over and over again :(

    • @carolmorton7213
      @carolmorton7213 Месяц назад +45

      True! How do we distinguish the gymnasts unless they are Simone?

    • @cocoroni1031
      @cocoroni1031 Месяц назад +25

      Downgrade the aerials and cap the non-rebounding CVs would solve the problem😂

    • @rhondamartin3575
      @rhondamartin3575 Месяц назад +120

      I totally agree! I'm actually bored with the routines because you know exactly what they're going to do with an exception here or there. I miss originality, elegance, splits, leaps, various mounts, actual skills!!!! I know our team has tremendous talent and I'm so very proud of them but it's just gymnastics as a whole that I wish would change. Just my opinion. Go back to the artistry, not predictability!

    • @Berryations
      @Berryations Месяц назад +47

      I remember when I was a kid a they were so diverse. Now I’m like I’d having the exact same routine a requirement now

    • @ebbss4
      @ebbss4 Месяц назад +6

      I think appeal has a lot to do with this. Most of these moves are just not “appealing”

  • @lesevogelthyria
    @lesevogelthyria 2 месяца назад +413

    The Li mount breaks my back just while watching xD

    • @saraquill
      @saraquill Месяц назад +9

      One gymnast did a video where she tried training this mount, but was too scared to try it off of practice mats. I don’t blame her, but I think the mount might have been possible for her if she tried landing on the beam closer to her butt, rather than her lumbar.

    • @kellyhoward6941
      @kellyhoward6941 3 дня назад +4

      My back was hurting even b4 I saw that. Now I'm not sure I'll ever get off the couch. i did some gymnastics when I was young, loved the uneven parallels, but when they started having me do things just on a 4" wide stripe painted on the floor, I looked at that raised, HARD beam, & I was like nope nope nope! I had very good balance, but also wayyy too good an imagination for how it'd feel to fall on that thing. I decided to stick with v-ball, track, cheerleading, & other sports.

    • @mangoteeth1290
      @mangoteeth1290 21 час назад +2

      this should be banned, it's way tooooo risky

  • @jenfree2241
    @jenfree2241 Месяц назад +406

    Not a fan of wolf turns, but ironically they DO show actual balance, as in balance beam. I'd like to see them disappear from floor routines though.

    • @murasakino101
      @murasakino101 Месяц назад +45

      Fully agree. I can see them being tough on beam, but seeing them in almost every floor routine is a bit much. I don't blame the gymnasts since doing one can be a better choice than a D-level pass at times, but there are so many other skills that could take it's place lol

    • @triffus
      @triffus Месяц назад +11

      I'm not a fan, and they have their place, but they should be downgraded compared to an upright turn on releve. With Wolf turns you can sit on your heel and it also lowers your centre of gravity. When I used to play on beam I could do a Quad Wolf Turn ( yes, I'm a boy lol ), but Upright Triple (Okino) was so much more inconsistent.

    • @Berryations
      @Berryations Месяц назад +12

      They may be tough on beam but unless done perfectly they always look odd and jerky, and look more like something a male would do. While not doing the baitova bc it’s a male heavy skill

    • @jessicanolen8511
      @jessicanolen8511 Месяц назад +16

      They look better on beam than on floor too, though I think generally they look stupid on both. Some of the top beam performers are capable of an elegant Wolf turn.

    • @tarawierzba8787
      @tarawierzba8787 8 дней назад +15

      Thank you! I cannot stand the wolf turns! They are so awkward they don’t go with the floor music and nine out of 10 times the girls fall out of them on the floor. I see your point on the beam but I still hate seeing them on the beam too

  • @AnnekaMorgan
    @AnnekaMorgan Месяц назад +282

    The flexibility of the Phillips in mind-blowing. That's contortionist-level back flexibility.

    • @murasakino101
      @murasakino101 Месяц назад +17

      Yeah that's why no one other than Phillips herself performed it. Most gymnasts don't have that insane level of flexibility and only usually enough for the requirements.

    • @nickywal
      @nickywal Месяц назад +3

      Or rhythmic gymnasts, even there there's more focus on physical rather than that now

    • @Berryations
      @Berryations Месяц назад +2

      @@murasakino101 that’s weird bc it’s not hard to get that back flexibility for them, but for just one skill its probably not worth the time and energy

    • @cherrydeli4525
      @cherrydeli4525 7 дней назад

      There’s a similar contortion skill called teardrop actually! Looks awesome

  • @gregsquires6201
    @gregsquires6201 Месяц назад +433

    The lack of variety in modern gymnastics saddens me, but I don't know how to give proper credit to difficulty without encouraging some skills and discouraging others. It's very hard to balance objective judging with artistry and creativity.

    • @alizah8042
      @alizah8042 Месяц назад +24

      I think I saw someone a while back propose just giving a certain bonus to every skill a gymnast performs that was not a submitted element by any other gymnast, or more than one or two, the year before. So if no one has done a Teza I in 20 years, a gymnast who does it now will get its value plus a flat bonus, like a .1 for rarity. Maybe the bonus can even be linked to letter rating but that might be dangerous.

    • @jodavitow
      @jodavitow Месяц назад +14

      @@alizah8042 idk, a lot of these skills require years to master. I think that would encourage unsafe practices just for the sake of extra tenths. Plus it would also make it so that everyone would be performing the same skill one year and then everyone moves on to the next easier skill the next year, and so on. I doubt it would actually generate diversity.
      It would also punish the one gymnast who was actually original to begin with by having everyone else in the field do their skill because it's an easy extra tenth.
      When it comes to beam I think something that might work is banning skills from fullfiling composition requirements.
      For example: like 90% of gymnasts get their spin requirement from doing wolf turns or a simpe standing spin with leg below horizontal (valued at A, the easier thing you could do to simply fulfill this requirement and move on). So if you're no longer fulfilling that requirement that way then you're forced to look into either other types of spins (L, Y, doubles, etc) or look into other skills that fullfil the requirement like the hip circles, jumping spins, flares.
      Same thing could be said for something like dance combination cannot be fulfilled by a switch leap + switch half, which everyone is doing too.
      On the long run I think people will experiment and after a couple quads everyone will be doing the most optimal or easier thing. So that would probably not be a long lasting solution. You could also add more composition requirement but I feel like the same thing would happen.
      The root cause of the change lies on the open ended system. Under the 10 you could do a 10 routine with a lot less difficulty than nowadays so people could play around with pretty, original, but inefficient skills(difficulty wise). Nowadays if you do that you're shooting yourself in the foot competitively. Everyone is trying to get as much difficulty as possible in the most efficient, less demanding way and with skills that minimize possible execution deductions. Naturally there will be skills that align with those characteristics and everyone will be doing them to be competitive.

    • @alizah8042
      @alizah8042 Месяц назад +4

      @@jodavitowI think banning things from fulfilling requirements is just as unsafe. But maybe there is a happy medium. You said it's not ideal but if you add back in a scale/balance requirement, and then also add in an originality requirement that can be fulfilled by doing any lesser completed skill. And to counteract the punishment for originality, definitely at the very least if you do a skill you submitted you should get bonus points in recognition for your innovation. If connections are still valued the same then adding in more components makes more room to think about routine composition, to connect skills or not to Connect skills, etc. I think that would encourage more creativity without encouraging gymnasts to go so far as to attempt things that are unsafe.

    • @strange144
      @strange144 Месяц назад +11

      Yes it also makes the gymasts weirdly replaceable since all personality has been eradicated from it.

    • @Berryations
      @Berryations Месяц назад +7

      Watch routine s from 10 or 20 or 30 years ago and you will see the variety that we just don’t get today

  • @floralgem
    @floralgem Месяц назад +773

    I think a "balancing" skill (handstand, some kind of pose like an arabesque or a needle.) should be a CR. It is no longer balance beam as it's "tumble on the 4 inch wide piece of wood."

    • @AshworthMild
      @AshworthMild Месяц назад +36

      Same with a mounting skill of C or greater.

    • @mrparts
      @mrparts Месяц назад +30

      This was a requirement back in 2001 and most gymnasts did a basic scale to comply with the requirement. We didn’t see any amazing variety. Very few people did handstands.

    • @laurenm1369
      @laurenm1369 Месяц назад +55

      The artistry is gone it’s so sad

    • @cocoroni1031
      @cocoroni1031 Месяц назад +10

      CR won't change anyway. Make it a counting element will change. And cap the non-rebounding CV.

    • @maryhekker4166
      @maryhekker4166 Месяц назад +35

      I agree with you. The Code of Points has destroyed any type of creativity on any element in gymnastics. Sad state of affairs.😢

  • @triffus
    @triffus Месяц назад +572

    Sorry to the creator, to say the LI LI spin isn't appealing? You're nuts. It's a beautiful piece of gymnastics

    • @moonloversheila8238
      @moonloversheila8238 Месяц назад +8

      I think it’s horrible. Each to his own!

    • @Berryations
      @Berryations Месяц назад +46

      This!!!!! It’s beautiful and should be done more often… most ppl don’t like it bc for some sicko reason they look at it as “inappropriate” with the open legs… like huh??

    • @djkzrocksta
      @djkzrocksta 9 дней назад +10

      It is so cool

    • @isabellefahd3973
      @isabellefahd3973 8 дней назад +5

      I love it! 😍

    • @Soulflwr1
      @Soulflwr1 3 дня назад +1

      It's beautiful

  • @virginiagarza7134
    @virginiagarza7134 7 дней назад +117

    Some of those skills should be brought back because they are pleasing to see and they show more artistic skill as well as strength

  • @sunshinemuldoon
    @sunshinemuldoon 2 месяца назад +324

    We used to goof off in the gym trying to get close to a Phillips. That skill is just nuts.

    • @carliecole2563
      @carliecole2563 Месяц назад +6

      I think I did gymnastics for like... 2 years, when I was maybe 4? Aaaand mainly I just did whatever we were supposed to in order to get to leap into that foam pit....
      No "apparatus" leading up to it? Well, no "skill" - pretty sure I just scuttled along that tiny, 6" off the ground, 1/2 length beam then did some sorta EXTREMELY not graceful "dive/splat" into that pit.... Then usually wallowed around in that smelly crap (is that stuff when you think about it I mean it's not like they clean the FOAM PIECES in the FOAM PITS every week, right?! Gross lol)
      Yeah there's definitely a reason I got into horseback riding and jumping instead..... Lol

    • @GizelleQuant
      @GizelleQuant Месяц назад +4

      It hurts my back looking at! 😂 Lovely skill!

  • @mjking9019
    @mjking9019 Месяц назад +171

    I miss many of these moves. I miss when the routines were different and creative. They really need to review things and encourage creativity and flexibility again.

    • @mjking9019
      @mjking9019 Месяц назад +3

      A few Canadian mounts not mentioned are the Rankin named after Canadian Janine Rankin, Jackie Bender had a very unique mount, as did Yvonne Tousek. I loved their different mounts.

  • @YuckyMama
    @YuckyMama Месяц назад +178

    That Li spin is all well and good but the *split around the beam”??? OMG that is eye catching.

    • @idonotknow8503
      @idonotknow8503 Месяц назад +8

      But laying on the beam while waving the hands around after a wolf turn looks better. For sure.

    • @Berryations
      @Berryations Месяц назад +1

      It’s fine my gosh why do ppl look at these skills and think to clutch their pearls

    • @YuckyMama
      @YuckyMama 6 дней назад +2

      @@Berryations ??? I’m confused why you think anyone is “clutching their pearls”. My statement is that I think the split around the beam looks striking. In today’s day and age of copycat routines, it is very visually unique and unlike what everyone else is doing. Why do you think anyone is freaked out by this?

  • @inspiteofbecauseof4745
    @inspiteofbecauseof4745 23 дня назад +107

    Back in the day when all gymnasts at the Olympics had to do compulsory routines as well as their personal optional routines, you could actually see the artistry, flexibility and overall best gymnasts compete.

    • @lesterine77
      @lesterine77 5 дней назад +11

      Yeah. I think gymnasts today would really struggle with compulsories if it were still a thing.

  • @missmoxie9188
    @missmoxie9188 Месяц назад +104

    I saw an interview with Kristie Phillips where she discussed not making the Olympic team. She was so gracious about it saying how good it was for her to take a break from gymnastics and doing things like riding her bike to the beach with friends.
    All in all she seemed happy with her life

    • @levlava
      @levlava Месяц назад +5

      She was absolutely lovely! And she continued to show incredible flexibility well into her 20’s. I added some of her later stuff to my channel because it’s weirdly hard to find, and she’s so awesome. ❤

    • @missmoxie9188
      @missmoxie9188 22 дня назад +6

      @@levlava the way she described it. “It was bad for my gymnastics but it was good for my soul.”

    • @levlava
      @levlava 22 дня назад

      @@missmoxie9188 💜💜💜

  • @rugbyplayer9100
    @rugbyplayer9100 Месяц назад +119

    Doing flairs as a beam mount is so sick!!! A shame we don’t see those skills in WAG anymore

  • @user-tu8ls4hl1r
    @user-tu8ls4hl1r 22 дня назад +82

    The Worley is so pleasing to watch how would no one want to see that more? It’s so cool

    • @janysmahoney1271
      @janysmahoney1271 День назад

      Probably some male judge who wants the women's t b more like men's ( no , l know men don't do beam but all the same)

    • @CaribouOrange
      @CaribouOrange День назад +1

      I agree!

    • @aerialpunk
      @aerialpunk 20 часов назад +1

      I thought she looked like she was warping spacetime lol. or like she was made out of liquid. It was really cool.

  • @misstekhead
    @misstekhead Месяц назад +222

    I miss the variety and creativity of planche and handstand skills that were performed between the 1970s through to the 90s. There were so many photogenic skills back then.

    • @YuckyMama
      @YuckyMama Месяц назад +25

      Are you implying the Wolf turn (that happens exactly 32 seconds into every single routine) isn’t the epitome of “variety & creativity”? 😂

    • @misstekhead
      @misstekhead Месяц назад +5

      @@YuckyMama
      How could I forget?! That *IS* the epitome of brilliant, photographic moments in gymnastics! I can’t wait until gymnasts begin doing wolf spin dismounts off the bars. Wolf spin vaults soon to come. 😆
      Edit: I prefer to call them spins versus turns as most the gymnasts I see practicing them in person look absolutely lost as if they have no sense as to where they are, thus giving them a dizzy, spun appearance.

    • @tracyjamieson362
      @tracyjamieson362 10 дней назад +8

      And the gymnasts had grace that I don’t see anymore.

    • @LauraM-kr9wv
      @LauraM-kr9wv 8 дней назад +6

      @@tracyjamieson362 They're incredibly graceful still, they're just more powerful and not barely eating to keep themselves as light as possible like they were decades ago.

    • @jamieloves6371
      @jamieloves6371 8 дней назад +4

      ​@@LauraM-kr9wvnah. They're NOT graceful at all.😂😂😂

  • @federicapiottoli6922
    @federicapiottoli6922 29 дней назад +28

    I can't even fathom how one comes up with a skill like the Li spin. It's just another level of creativity

  • @ledwn_
    @ledwn_ Месяц назад +113

    The preziosa was performed by a little gymnast in the Greek National Championships this year

  • @janettewong9900
    @janettewong9900 Месяц назад +33

    Not just wolf turns but as a dancer, I genuinely hate watching most turns on beam. It’s not the athletes but the limitation that is being on a beam - their eyes are always downcast because they need to know where they are going so they’re never going to spot properly in the first place. They’re literally just struggling to stay on that beam, hence the wild flailing on things like the wolf turn. Please trade them for hip circles or something else, even the skills like flairs, that are associated with MAG, look so much cleaner and more graceful than the turns that they’re gaming the system with

    • @stephaniemorrissey5114
      @stephaniemorrissey5114 6 дней назад +2

      Yes!!! Every time I see those turns, I want to yell, "You have to spot to turn!!" But instead of spotting (bc they can't, bc they're on a beam), they just use momentum/strength to turn, and it looks awful! Flailing arms, wobbles, ugh!

  • @0zoneTherapyW0rks
    @0zoneTherapyW0rks 2 дня назад +9

    I remember Olga Korbut's backbend as she hugs the beam and watches her toes touch the beam before her, legs straight. The concentration on her face was just amazing.

  • @victorbeauregarde1502
    @victorbeauregarde1502 Месяц назад +66

    And a triple wolf turn is worth an E... NERF THE WOLF TURNS. Honestly, we need to make a hold a requirement on beam. Add a new requirement for bars, beam, and floor, and add four (or eight) tenths back to vault start values. I miss great scores being in the 15's and phenomenal ones in the 16's.

    • @YuckyMama
      @YuckyMama Месяц назад +9

      I totally agree with everything you say regarding Wolf turns. We are all sick of them (I mean, if you’re going to give them a high value, then at least deduct for the crazy arms).
      I do disagree about the 15/16 values for scoring. Getting stuck on an absolute number led to the high-level stupidity of the 10.0 cap system. (I can get on a real rant about NCAA scoring). As a fan, I enjoy seeing women push the sport and any sort of plateau takes away the incentive to do so (the E cap on UB transitions means all innovation on those skills has come to a halt, same with the “dance elements” cap). So personally, I say let the women keep pushing the sport so that in 20 years, a score of 20 is just “good”.

    • @jodavitow
      @jodavitow Месяц назад +4

      A hold requirement will just make everyone do the simplest and fastest hold so they can continue with their routine and everyone will be doing the same thing again. That won't work. Kind of how everyone either does a simple spin for the requirement and move on or they do a wolf turn.
      Also I think woulf turns are properly valued at E. The actual problem is the E cap on dance skills which make it not worth doing other types of triple (or even double) spins. A double scorpion turn could easily be an F skill, same for a double ilusion but it's just not worth doing them because of the E cap.

    • @cocoroni1031
      @cocoroni1031 Месяц назад +4

      Just make hold a counting element, and require wolf turns to have horizontal free leg throughout (and so disappear😎). Gymnasts are punished in D score for not doing a clean wolf turn now.

    • @nadiac3319
      @nadiac3319 3 дня назад

      The wolf turns are so so painful to watch.

  • @StewNWT
    @StewNWT Месяц назад +44

    I've never seen the Li spin before that's so cool

  • @ariannepine3157
    @ariannepine3157 Месяц назад +312

    The Worley not being beautiful according to fans? Are these the same fans that think the wolf turns beautiful?

    • @julieharden2433
      @julieharden2433 Месяц назад +73

      Wolf turns are the worst. So ugly. Can't wait for them to go out of style.

    • @PrincessLioness
      @PrincessLioness Месяц назад +5

      I think it’s because the legs are not together, like one leg is always first. I think it would look better as a cartwheel (there’s a move similar where it’s one leg then the other),

    • @spocony.krasnolud
      @spocony.krasnolud Месяц назад +24

      more people just think normal onodi is better

    • @PrincessLioness
      @PrincessLioness Месяц назад +8

      @@spocony.krasnolud Thank you that’s what it’s called. The onodi looks much better to me.

    • @PrincessLioness
      @PrincessLioness Месяц назад +9

      No one thinks wolf turns look good, it’s just the onodi looks better.

  • @corrugatedmetal6598
    @corrugatedmetal6598 Месяц назад +35

    nobody talking about the colussi??! what a beautiful skill

  • @Berryations
    @Berryations Месяц назад +104

    They’ve really taken the artistry area from this artistic competition

    • @kimshuman4175
      @kimshuman4175 Месяц назад +8

      So very true. The scoring system needs readjusted.
      And what happened to the days where there were deductions for leotards that were too high cut in the back side?! I remember the year that I saw an entire team get a deduction for it. How about putting it back to making it about the gymnastics, and cover up the rear end!

    • @SesameR7sh
      @SesameR7sh 10 дней назад +9

      So agree. Maybe they should divide it. Two kinds: acrobatic gymnastics, Simone Biles style and beautiful gymnastics, Nadia style. Plus rhythmic gymnastics as well of course

    • @tbh224
      @tbh224 7 дней назад +1

      So, by your logic Simone Biles does ugly gymnastics?

    • @SesameR7sh
      @SesameR7sh 7 дней назад +16

      @@tbh224 impressive, stunning, but not beautiful. The opposite of beautiful is not necessarily ugly. I feel she does acrobatic gymnastics, breathtaking but not graceful.
      You don't need to get nasty. Nobody is calling her style ugly. It's not ugly.

    • @nadiac3319
      @nadiac3319 3 дня назад +6

      @@SesameR7shI agree. Was just talking to a friend about this. Biles gymnastics is INCREDIBLE. But the word that comes to mind is not beauty, grace, but power, strength, acrobatic. I don’t mean she isn’t beautiful or graceful. Just her gymnastics style doesn’t bring those to the forefront visually.

  • @js72634
    @js72634 Месяц назад +63

    This explains why I tried to watch some modern beam routines recently and just wasn't interested.
    They've gotten rid of the best stuff!

    • @cl230
      @cl230 Месяц назад +9

      Yeah they’re kinda boring

    • @_padfoot
      @_padfoot Месяц назад

      World Championships final last year actually had a ton of great routines with all kinds of different styles of gymnastics!
      ruclips.net/video/MDZqqVFJRQQ/видео.html

    • @KHlj9
      @KHlj9 15 дней назад +1

      Same.

    • @clubpenguinmaster123
      @clubpenguinmaster123 5 дней назад +2

      they’re extremely repetitive and so similar to one another

  • @kerryallen4665
    @kerryallen4665 Месяц назад +97

    I miss all the creativity. All the routines look the same now.

    • @FC-ku4ez
      @FC-ku4ez Месяц назад +12

      The number of Wolf turns in Olympic competition alone was so boring and redundant. So many other beautiful options.

    • @fox36975
      @fox36975 19 дней назад +3

      Totally agree!

    • @emusaurus
      @emusaurus 9 дней назад +3

      I thought i remembered enjoying it more back in the day.

  • @TheConative720
    @TheConative720 3 дня назад +3

    The Worley trips me out! I love it!

  • @orbitalwarrior
    @orbitalwarrior 25 дней назад +10

    I like what the Jamaican gymnast, Danucia Francis did with the Colussi element and dismount.

  • @queendomcentral2235
    @queendomcentral2235 Месяц назад +10

    The Li Spin and the Teza I are amazing. I find all of the skills in this video to be impressive and refreshing, and I would love to see them incorporate into modern routines

  • @patriciasalopek7614
    @patriciasalopek7614 Месяц назад +68

    I really like your video presentation. I like seeing the skill repeated several times, and in slo mo.

  • @user-oi7jd8nx5w
    @user-oi7jd8nx5w 27 дней назад +11

    idk why some of these skills are ranked so low when they are so insane

  • @andrewkosmowski3985
    @andrewkosmowski3985 Месяц назад +71

    The Preziosa reminds me of the Bielman spin in figure skating.

    • @overcomingobstaclescreates1695
      @overcomingobstaclescreates1695 Месяц назад +8

      Yeah I find it weird it said gymnasts don't do it because of back flexibility. I thought "since when do gymnasts have *less* flexibility than figure skaters?"

    • @sadmac356
      @sadmac356 22 дня назад

      ​@@overcomingobstaclescreates1695seriously!

    • @misstekhead
      @misstekhead 6 дней назад

      @@andrewkosmowski3985
      I was thinking the same thing. I was like, “Hey, figure skaters do this all the time.”
      Ironically one of the first gyms I ever went to as a kid had a coach that also taught figure skating. He would have the skaters at the gym working on conditioning and flexibility quite often. I also got to witness their gorgeous spins and jumps.

    • @ajc94
      @ajc94 Час назад

      I guess you don't need as much back flexibility in artistic gymnastics as it's more important to have leg flexibility for the big split leaps. You can see that turn a lot in rhythmic gymnastics though - we used to call it a fish pivot at my club but I think ring pivot is the more common name!

  • @jessicanolen8511
    @jessicanolen8511 Месяц назад +13

    The Li spin looks nicer than the Wolf turn which with rare exceptions is almost consistently performed in an ugly way.

    • @kimshuman4175
      @kimshuman4175 Месяц назад +3

      Right on! And it looks even worse on floor. To see every girl trying to get into a graceful position to do it, is just not pleasant at all

  • @StewNWT
    @StewNWT Месяц назад +19

    The worley isn't pleasing to watch? It's so cool that's crazy. I can see how it would have to be on the back end of a combo rather than it being really linkable from the back end of the move itself

    • @murasakino101
      @murasakino101 Месяц назад +2

      The channel owner was just saying that many gymnastics fans don't like the move which is somewhat true. Many prefer the onodi since it's viewed as being "prettier". I personally love both even though the onodi is one of my all time favs. Would love to see the worley back

  • @dialatedxpupilzx
    @dialatedxpupilzx 4 дня назад +3

    The Colussi & Teza 1 are both insanely interesting and the degree of control and fluidity needed to do them perfectly is mind bending. Also, the Double Front DMT reminds me of the years when you would literally hold your breath during dismounts. Never knew you might see back then. And there was this build up you could feel in the room, even on tv, right before it was executed. Just my humble opinion.

  • @joannapilgrim
    @joannapilgrim Месяц назад +15

    The Teza 1 and the Li Spin were my favs!

  • @jmj5388
    @jmj5388 Месяц назад +8

    29:36. The Li Spin was executed beautifully by Tatiana Lysenko in the 90’s, one of the best beamworkers of her day.

  • @usedscar
    @usedscar Месяц назад +10

    I do miss the fancy beam mounts. But it makes a lot of sense when you explain why not to do it.

  • @candy4428
    @candy4428 7 дней назад +18

    We need to bring back these routines way more exciting 🙌

  • @lettieirvinn
    @lettieirvinn Месяц назад +14

    I would love to see ppl bring these back

  • @juliaalexander5788
    @juliaalexander5788 4 дня назад +3

    Li spin looks like break dancing 💃

  • @BeautyNherBeastt
    @BeautyNherBeastt День назад +2

    These gymnasts are so talented!!! Wish they still did routines like this.. now its a bunch of arm waving with a backflip here and there😂

  • @anthonysowell5806
    @anthonysowell5806 Месяц назад +11

    The Teza still blows my mind to see it. I do really miss originality and grace and beauty on the beam. Not a huge fan of todays beam or floor routines no beauty at all

  • @junglefrancais
    @junglefrancais Месяц назад +10

    I've been a circus artist... so thanks for this video ! I love originality :)

  • @courtneypuzzo2502
    @courtneypuzzo2502 2 месяца назад +10

    its either low grade safety reasons etc. my favorite rare beam mount is either Candle mount/ Silivaș neck stand mount. favorite rare skill inside a beam routine is either a Korbut flip or the Miller which ends in a side straddle

  • @cowboycrushfan
    @cowboycrushfan Месяц назад +18

    Forever my favorite on beam "The Miller"

    • @overcomingobstaclescreates1695
      @overcomingobstaclescreates1695 Месяц назад

      So beautiful and graceful!

    • @misstekhead
      @misstekhead 6 дней назад +1

      @@cowboycrushfan
      Good one! And even she couldn’t hit that skill 100% of the time. It takes a lot of control to the turn and hold the split handstand. She did it perfectly during EF at the 1996 Olympics.

  • @justacrystal567
    @justacrystal567 11 дней назад +4

    I really like the hip circles. It’s a shame that the point system has been funneling everyone in to doing the same things.

  • @cindyinnew
    @cindyinnew 2 дня назад +3

    I’m just trying to figure out how to get to the bathroom in the dark without falling

  • @janeswan2474
    @janeswan2474 15 дней назад +2

    Absolutely INCREDIBLE. I miss those types of skills.

  • @patchoulidance
    @patchoulidance 2 месяца назад +10

    Love both Li Li's skills

  • @namelia4439
    @namelia4439 Месяц назад +2

    I LOVED these…would just love to see them today!!!

  • @kl8062
    @kl8062 2 месяца назад +17

    I know it's a video on beam, but I've always been a big vault fan and am completely bored with the DTY (aren't we all?). Was so glad to see a couple of Chengs at Championships, but I'll still turn to MAG for my vault fix (or, ya know, Simone, but that goes without saying).

    • @leelab8307
      @leelab8307 Месяц назад +3

      I miss the Amanar . Seems to go out of fashion lately.

    • @jodavitow
      @jodavitow Месяц назад +2

      @@leelab8307 it got unreasonably devalued to the point it is not worth doing unless you can do it like a Simone or a Maroney, which most people can't. A very clean DTY will score better.

  • @lkf8799
    @lkf8799 Месяц назад +1

    How interesting. I'm 43 so I definitely remember some of these older moves but didn't clock they weren't being used anymore. Cool video.
    I like the back spin and scorpion spin. The hip spins are cool too.

  • @corgeousgeorge
    @corgeousgeorge Месяц назад +7

    The li spin would make a modern crowd go apes*it if they saw it. An athlete with longer lines in general would make this such a moment. It's very beautiful. Would completely make a competitor stand out.

  • @rosee7011
    @rosee7011 Месяц назад +7

    "The Tousek" was also performed prior to 99 by Tatiana Groshkova. Beautifully.

  • @cherylousey6601
    @cherylousey6601 Месяц назад +41

    I think these skills show way more strength and control over all the tricks done now!💪

    • @jj1106
      @jj1106 29 дней назад +2

      Tricks?! Come on now. Those skills you see today are far more difficult to execute.

  • @liyan00
    @liyan00 Месяц назад +1

    It's so interesting that I know quite a few of these moves because I followed a gymnast about 8 years ago now.

  • @amandalong220
    @amandalong220 6 часов назад

    I find the Worley extremely pleasing and impressive to watch! Would love to see that come back in style. Same with flares!

  • @rebeccalowe-hodges8162
    @rebeccalowe-hodges8162 4 дня назад +1

    These are awesome! It would be great to see some of the skills make a come back - jack it up a bit : )

  • @suzettehenderson9278
    @suzettehenderson9278 Месяц назад +8

    Would love to see the Baitova/Houma mount connected to a LiLi connected to a back roll to handstand.

    • @overcomingobstaclescreates1695
      @overcomingobstaclescreates1695 Месяц назад

      Exactly what I was thinking. A lot of these aren't done because you can do 'easier' skills for the same value, but what if you connected some of these unperformed skills together? It would certainly be more original and exciting than what they're doing today.

  • @Badgersj
    @Badgersj Месяц назад

    Really interesting. Never thought of gymnastics in that way, thank you.

  • @nix2747
    @nix2747 16 часов назад

    Dominique Moceanu used to do a mount that started with her upside down, gripping the beam and sort of alternating stamping it with her back and front. That is my forever favourite.

  • @another_julia
    @another_julia 3 дня назад

    i’ve learned what hip circles are just now from this video and now i am forever going to miss them from any bean routine i watch

  • @yef122
    @yef122 Месяц назад +4

    Great to see Peng and Danusia in this video 🩵💛

  • @tarastreasure
    @tarastreasure Месяц назад +12

    Wow, I'm pretty sure I haven't seen some of these ever, I mean I didn't know they existed. I've been watching gymnastics fervently from about 1996 to 2012, maybe the 2016 Olympics too... After that I kind of lost track but want to watch this year's Olympics. All these skills are awesome!

    • @denise8401234
      @denise8401234 7 дней назад +1

      my first olympics was 84 Mary Lou Retton omg she was incredible ! its what made me love the sport . Look her routined up and she was so positive with a beautiful smile .

    • @MiniM69
      @MiniM69 2 дня назад

      Why are they treating the bean like the uneven bars though…maybe that’s why no one does them anymore!

    • @tarastreasure
      @tarastreasure 2 дня назад

      @@denise8401234 I will! I already saw some videos of her here. I am Romanian and we had our golden era, too. 😁 I didn't catch Nadia and I don't even remember Daniela Silivas in 1988 because I was rather young. I remember Lavinia Milosovici but don't know if it's from 1992 Olympics or maybe other competitions in 1993 and after. But afterwards, I was a fan. I actually stopped when we had no gymnasts anymore. 🥲 This year we did have a team in the final but no one expected them to win anything. If they keep up the good work (they are young) maybe we'll have something to look forward to in 2028 Los Angeles. 😀

    • @tarastreasure
      @tarastreasure 2 дня назад

      Are you saying this because they go round the beam circling it? I find it delightful. ​@@MiniM69

  • @RGSuperfan
    @RGSuperfan Месяц назад +6

    I'm french, so of course my favorite element is the Teza

  • @sonquatsch8585
    @sonquatsch8585 День назад

    that wolfs spin is dope as hell tho. .are u kidding the dopest thing in gymnastics.

  • @eexpandingawayy
    @eexpandingawayy 7 дней назад

    Very cool to learn bout why these are gone, would over to learn about what’s gone from floor and vault too!

  • @janysmahoney1271
    @janysmahoney1271 День назад

    The Li spin into beam wrap split ,wow, just so original

  • @juanantoniomoreno3409
    @juanantoniomoreno3409 Месяц назад +1

    I like the rare mounts and the turns. Particularly the scorpion and the Li Li. I also like the Yurchenko loop, the scales and the reverse planches. I also love Rolls: Garrison roll, back extension roll-full piroutte, front roll-press to hand stand.

  • @SPiRAh
    @SPiRAh День назад

    The Teza I & Zamolodchikova are my favs! They should definitely bring back the hip circles, those were awesome! The Li Spin is really cool too! I can remember watching gymnastics as a kid & I was always in awe of all the skills & moves those girls had but as this video states- I don’t really see much originality anymore. They’re still insanely skilled & I’m still very much in awe of them, I just don’t notice many wild signature moves, like these, anymore.
    Also, the Li Mount is really cool but just looks painful! Lol

  • @kevinjewell233
    @kevinjewell233 Месяц назад +9

    There is no such thing as a Baitova, it is the "Talavera Flair", created by US gymnast Tracee Talavera in 1980 at the American Cup...at the 1981 World Championships she started her routine by leg circles, then later performed the flairs...Baitova only connected the two elements. The Talavera Flair is in the CoP and has been since 1981.

    • @tyronewashington8153
      @tyronewashington8153 Месяц назад +1

      Who cares what the name is 😆. Biatova or not. Any female gymnast doing those circles on beam are amazing. Extremely difficult and rare

  • @GaylaGriffiths-hi8zm
    @GaylaGriffiths-hi8zm 2 месяца назад +15

    I was a gymnast and was always a athlete. M y body is hurting beyond my imagination. Lorraine Bregni your body is hurting too. We didit in the 60's.i loved flying through the air....

    • @cynhanrahan4012
      @cynhanrahan4012 Месяц назад +3

      I ruined my body in the 1970s with the extreme back flexibility. I didn't know I was ruining it then, but now? My knees were the first to go, before I was 30 and my Dr tells me my spine looks like I had a long career in professional football (US). But I did love to flex and I did love to fly.

  • @sargassum6190
    @sargassum6190 Месяц назад +5

    The Li Spin makes me think of Stick It! 😂😂 I feel like the choreographer was inspired!

  • @MsAdlerHolmes
    @MsAdlerHolmes 5 дней назад +5

    I think gymnastics is changing as it moves away from the style set by the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War era. I thinks it's a change for the better, a move towards health and safety of the gymnasts. I'm excited to see what comes over time.

  • @AutumnSunsett1730
    @AutumnSunsett1730 Месяц назад +2

    I always loved the Teza 1 and 2!

  • @devonwright21
    @devonwright21 2 дня назад

    This was very interesting!! I think my favorite skill was the first one but they were all pretty awesome. I’d love to see more videos like this showing the floor, bars and vault.

  • @janysmahoney1271
    @janysmahoney1271 День назад

    The Tezai was like..
    What the heck was that? My jaw's still on the floor; now THATS a skill an a half but looked really dangerous

  • @Jessicaddy
    @Jessicaddy Месяц назад +1

    5:18 the DAB 😂

  • @ArjunaDixit
    @ArjunaDixit 4 дня назад +5

    This video is better than a normal Olympics routine.

  • @joytiller5920
    @joytiller5920 9 дней назад +3

    We already have the floor exercises, the balance beam should be different.

  • @ria-zul-zannah7100
    @ria-zul-zannah7100 Месяц назад +2

    The Li spin is so beautiful! And the Teza I is just crazy!! How did she do that!?❤❤

  • @JerrBaybEe
    @JerrBaybEe 4 дня назад

    I definitely remember seeing that last move way back when! 🤩 glad to know i'm not crazy lol

  • @April7739
    @April7739 4 дня назад +2

    These are all awesome!

  • @braincabbage
    @braincabbage 4 дня назад

    I love the Teza I! it's so beautiful to watch, I wish it would come back. I also wish leg flairs were used more in women's routines

  • @fantastiv
    @fantastiv Месяц назад +3

    Imagine a routine with mostly these skills, that woud become really odd, would love to see it and would be curious to the possible D score!

  • @souldancersbyjennifer
    @souldancersbyjennifer 2 дня назад

    Oh the Li spin is gorgeous!
    The mount however.... I dunno how they do it without breaking their backs. It's also very interesting how older gymnasts love doing hip circles on the beam... Like how!? It's mind boggling

  • @jenniebaker7180
    @jenniebaker7180 Месяц назад

    So interesting and stunning. Thanks

  • @WasCapretta
    @WasCapretta Месяц назад +2

    The li spin is just beautiful ❤️

  • @terri6537
    @terri6537 21 день назад

    I like so many of these, but my favorite is the Tezza 1. I also like the Worley, the Li spin and zomochovika.

  • @harrisonia
    @harrisonia 5 дней назад

    Wow, this was so informative!
    😃🏃🏽‍♀️🤸‍♀️🏃🏽‍♀️

  • @sharkbites5472
    @sharkbites5472 Месяц назад +4

    I love both Li’s and the Preziosa(sorry, I love it more on the floor though)! ✌💙

  • @islandpersuasion4690
    @islandpersuasion4690 3 дня назад

    The Li spin is the best. Dance, artistry, flexibility, strength, balance. It had everything. Second favourite is the Zamolodchikova.

  • @rg1whiteywins598
    @rg1whiteywins598 Месяц назад +2

    I love all these skills.

  • @janysmahoney1271
    @janysmahoney1271 День назад

    The Colussi is fabulicious but extremely dangerous; i love it
    I also ove the side routines like the Tousek as it shows the mastery an skill t balace on such as small space etc

  • @pikniknb
    @pikniknb 6 дней назад

    They are all amazing

  • @junglefrancais
    @junglefrancais Месяц назад +5

    the worley is so beautiful !

  • @JerrBaybEe
    @JerrBaybEe 4 дня назад +1

    The Tousec looks cool as heck!