12 Uneven Bars Skills NO ONE Performs in 2024
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Meet 12 skills uneven bars skills no one performs in 2024:
- The Jentsch;
- Front Tuck mount;
- The Kim;
- The Strong;
- The Comaneci;
- The Ma;
- The Zgoba;
- The Mo Salto;
- The Magaña;
- The Delladio;
- The Shushunova;
- Triple Twist dismount.
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We must change scoring to include originality in all events. I really miss it and it makes the sport more exciting.
Esp the balancing skills on the beam which are all but non existent now
Or at least find a way to reward these skills - and also reward inventing new skills or combinations of skills.
This video explains why gymnastics has become much more boring to watch as a supervisor sport.
@@greenvortex7this! Watching the more masculine gymnasts of today is not near as awe inspiring as it was in the older days. 😢
The strong ..one and half twist between the bars was gorgeous
As a former gymnast, I absolutely loved doing flyaway skills off bars. I thought they were so pretty and really worked with my coaches to learn the timing to be able to get the twist all the way around. 1990s gymnastics allowed for a lot more variety. What happened? Also, compulsories really should make a comeback. Some of these gymnasts have the sloppiest basics that it looks unsafe.
Same thing has happened in figure skating with elimination of compulsory figures. Not having everyone train a wide variety of skills raises the level and variety of programs. Without compulsorirs everyone moves to the lowest common denominator.
Think what would happen if ballet didn’t have the barre training as fundamental.
@@annettewilcox5413
I like that comparison to ballet and barre training. The fundamentals are, well…fundamental.
You see this in a lot of sports unfortunately. I coach allstar elite cheerleading and both athletes and parents (and sometimes coaches!) are so fixating on being placed on a higher level that they push to just “get” tumbling or stunt skills, without really mastering the prerequisite skills/body positions/techniques. Once that happens at low level and the athlete has progressed on several levels, it’s extremely hard to go back and back the bad habits and reteach the fundamentals.
I’m really surprised to hear that gymnastics wouldn’t require a certain skill set mastery at each level though. I’m a lover of perfect technique and body position/shapes.. when it comes down to it technique wins championships in my sport and I assume with gymnastics it probably comes down to technique often as well. I’ve seen first and second be separated by a -0.05 deduction many times.
Obviously that wasn’t the case at the 2024 Olympics since USA was 5pts ahead of the competition, but I doubt that’s the case every time.
@@HollyKEvans
At the 2024 Olympics, trust me when I say I saw plenty of form deductions which is why even the best gymnasts didn’t make it into the 15 range.
As far as cheerleading I know exactly what you mean! I’ve watched training where shortcuts are taken to have the cheerleader learn a skill ASAP which is incredibly dangerous. No one has patience anymore. Parents are paying lots of money and they want instant results not realizing the more likely potential for injuries. 😔
@@misstekheadI agree. The artistry has also died
Comaneci is not Soviet, she is a Romanian
Omg I’m gonna put my clown nose on 🤡 I apologise about that! Thank you so much
Ya that was a very surprising error! You're content is 99.9 percent accurate! @@gymnasticsmasterclass
lol. ROM even comes up on the screen when Nadia is shown. We’ll forgive you. I really like your content 🤸
Thank you 😭😭
No excuses 😭 I kinda felt bad because Nadia is a legend & deserves all the respect! I should’ve known better
Ian Gunther fans after recognising the Kim: 👁👄👁
@tomeekun OMG HAHAHA
Yep 😂
Yeah..🤣
Quite literally my reaction.😂
😂😂😂
I wonder how often Mo Huilan and Yao Jinnan hit their shins on the high bar while training the Mo salto. They were awfully close to the bar.
I also wonder how many shoulder tears occurred in others who tried to learn this. That is a crazy amount of force with the arm rotated like that.
Uneven bars used to be so fluid and beautiful, but like the narrator said it has become an event where there's very little distinction between athletes since they all perform the same handful of skills.
I miss the days of when the bars were set closer together and the routines transitioned from low to high and high to low throughout the entire routine now it has gotten to where it is more like the men's high bar.
Women's gymnastics overall has changed entirely in the past couple decades. Where it used to be about grace, flexibility, individual creativity in dance skills as well as tumbling and has shifted its focus to power, strength, and how many difficult skills can they combine together, not that the skills that are being performed aren't insanely impressive bc they are, it's just there's very little individuality anymore
Also how can a gymnastic channel say that Nadia was Soviet?
Some one didn't do there research 😢
@@alexkoronec4326 what did I say that needed to researched?
We're getting more acrobatic beam mounts again...maybe we'll get lucky and the new code will up the D-Value or add a bonus for acrobatic bars mounts. I would LOVE to see more of them. 😍
A lot of these should be upgraded. Triple twist off the bars is incredibly challenging, can’t believe its only an E, and the Mangana being only G is criminal.
That's the old "not wanting to encourage them to do dangerous skills with a high rating" trick with the Mangana. Either it's too dangerous, and don't allow it, or allow it and rate it appropriately.
LOL and they actually downgraded Liu Xuan's one-arm giant to a C and the release similarly, "to discourage gymnasts from doing dangerous skills."
These skills are out of the world. I'm pretty sure modern gymnasts could do amazing skills like these if they had an incentive, sadly that is taken away by the score system :(
The Strong & the Ma both look insane!
The Strong is so cool!
The Strong was so difficult that Lori stopped doing it, but had to relearn it to get her scholarship to Georgia
Gymnastics has become dull 😑 All routines look the same
Yep. The overwhelming feeling I had watching this video was, 'God, I miss the 1980s.'
@@findingthatperfectspot4692 70s/80s/90s best years for women gymnastics
If we look at other countries even such as Brazil they are doing really incredible things. I even saw a gymnast from Jamaica I forget her name and thought there are gymnasts out there still pushing to have some creativity. Even I forget her name a leading Chinese gymnast does not have that Wolf Turn on the beam in her routine that almost everyone does at least American gymnasts do
Mens gymnastics is not as boring as women's these days. Women simply have no variety whatsoever anymore.
The Strong looks beautiful in-flight, but all the releases had bent knees, flexed feet. I can see why it's not popular anymore
It could look differently today as the bars back In the late 80s were still quite close to each other.
We desperately need more variety in dismounts, that's for sure, which is why the ma and triple twist caught my eye 😮
We need more Shushunova but FIG won’t let beautifully risky skills happen 😢
The fans want more unique elements in all routines and yet FIG refuses to listen. That’s a shame.
Unfortunately the FIG is more and more full of poop now. And the gymnasts who still have the ghost of the old classic styles were penalized heavily.
@@meowmeowcat6013and didn't they prove it again with Chiles! Video showing the appeal WAS submitted on time, & the Prez of the panel has done legal work for the Romanians, but nope: no more appeals?? OMG: they're really wearing that 🍑🕳️ on their sleeve..
I like the Counter Kim. Counter Kim to bail to inbar would be insane but doable.
I bet Simone and a few other gymnasts could do the triple back bar dismount.
That The Ma dismount is crazy beautiful ❤❤❤
Vaulting is where there needs to be signifcant injection of originality, especially in WAG. When you watch a meet it feels like you're seeing the same four faults (Yurchenko 1.5, 2, & 2.5) and the Cheng vault. There needs to be incentives to train handspring & tsukahara entries.
9:39 The Mo salto and the Mangana dismount are both beautiful and exhilarating to watch. Apologies to all the Spanish speakers. I can't figure out how to make the tilda over the n with my keyboard.
I would like to see the Ma returned (After China’s 🇨🇳 Ma Yanhong). It would be a nice variation from the standard dismounts currently used.
A lot of them need a BIG update. It's insane that a triple twist is only an E tbh
I was training the front sommersault to high bar mount 30 years ago - very hard not to dead hang afterwards & to get the right catch angle
Only Ma can do the Ma
The Magaña looks terrifying.
'Former Soviet gymnast Nadia Comaneci.' Ouch.
I hope the next code of points has more incentives or possibilities for originality and bonus or requirements for mounts. It's almost boring watching gymnastics now.
I really love Triple Twist Dismount❤️❤️❤️❤️ it’s so WAG i think👍🏻
I like the Strong, the Ma, and the Mo.
Noone can make that Shushunova release look good.
I'm glad that one is gone.
Pretty much all gymnastics now are boring and everyone does the same thing. But aren't the bars farther apart now too? Some of those skills just aren't possible anymore.
Yes they used to be the p bars just in different heights
🥱I agree 👍🏽
🤔 Así es ya están bien separadas las rutinas se parecen a la de los hombres pues solo utilizan la barra alta, desde la ciudad del rey poeta Saludos
Do the bars HAVE to be set that far? Or are they just set that way to allow for the current routines?
@@KatieLHall-fy1hwI believe it was done for several reasons but largely injury. Bars being close allowed many moved with pelvis thrusting on bars which led to numerous issues.
The Delladio transition is no longer a legal skill because it doesn't appear in the table of elements. Skills aren't legal unless they appear in the ToE (or have been submitted for recognition as a new element), so even though it's listed in the appendix of named elements, it's not actually allowed in competition.
The FIG didn't like it and have deemed it "uncharacteristic", which is why it was removed from the ToE. However, because the FIG are incredibly erratic with their decision-making, they've allowed the Delladio dismount to stay, which features the same sort of take-off from handstand into a front tuck. It's incredibly inconsistent, but such is the FIG.
how many damn times do we need to say the code of points and the old guard need a revamp? its getting stale at this point
I would think catching a release in reverse grip would be murder on the wrists.
If I were still competing I’d make compositions that yes may not have the “usual compositions” or higher scores but are soaked with unique skills and elements we haven’t seen in ages to stand out amongst the more predictable routines
Ian Gunther is performing a piked version of the Kim!
In Men's, it's called a Marinich.
@3Axel1996 how can that be? Ian said he invented it and is calling it the Gunther. ruclips.net/user/shortsckok32D-DFU?si=jelRqBfoEu7dOAzw
tbh quite a number of WAG UB release moves are "imported" from MAG's high bar release moves.
There's a dismount called the Maksiuta(named after Valeria Maksiuta from Israel) which is a double front 1/1 in tucked position
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The Kim.The Strong, and The Ma. Absolutely breathtaking; Literally, I find myself holding my breath, LoL! An all around 🧨 of skills!
😂😂 soviet Comaneci. Id like to see that timeline in the multiverse
Anyone else nervous watching Delladio with the springboard still there?
The Zgoba is LOVELY!!!
The Zgoba looks insane.
I'm surprised no one is at least trying to get the front tucked mount or triple twisting dismount named after them.
They’re already in the Code, so they can’t be submitted again
Strong/Mo/Ma
Very interesting!! Thank you
The Ma is basically a Mukhina Hecht from the high bar with a full twist
That's how new moves are created but just adding an extra element to an existing move.
These videos are perfect! Awesome content! ❤
The strong is really cool. I really apreciate the swings.
Shame on you, FIG!
The strong is so pleasant to watch
Does anyone perform the Gebeshian mount? I've always loved that one.
I miss the Burda twirl 😢
The kim - you watch it and say "WTF - What just happened" then you watch it again (in slo mo) and say the same thing.
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Imagine if Shilese worked the Ma dismount into her current routine
"The magaña" luce demasiado brusco y doloroso al caer, eso supongo que es el motivo por el cual no lo hacen.
El resto son realmente fantásticos, veloces y sotisficados (y claro, con una dificultad alta en relación a los pocos puntajes que le asignaron a cada uno; una lástima).
While I love the girlies today…these old school gymnasts were absolutely amazing! Their skill and artistry are unrivaled.
Nadia is an excellent work on Uneven Bars routine.
I'm no longer fond of women's gymnastics. The scoring system is more difficult to understand, and the routines have lost their creativity.
Love how unique these all are!
Mao Salto And The Strong both totally cool
@4:00 Nadia is not a former Soviet gymnast, she is Romanian, need to correct.
Shushunova is my fave on this list.
The shusunova is my favorite skill I’d like to see in modern gymnastics
I take your point that no one does these skills at present, but does this really show change over time in within-code diversity? The examples you show - and they're magnificent and I love the video - range from the 1970s to the mid/late 2000s. Of course we'll see more diversity across that many codes than we do in 2024! They didn't do 2024 skills in 1988, either. Then again, that doesn't make the statement false. It's just that we need a sensible point of comparison.
Uneven bars harder mounts should recieve at least extra 0.2 bonus to encourage it!!!!
0.4
I don't know that I have one favorite. They're all creative, although I am in awe of Magana and triple twists.
Meanwhile, I can not even perform the maneuver of getting out of bed each day....... ;-;
The Strong, the Ma, the Mo Salto, and the triple twist dismount are all incredibly beautiful skills in my opinion…
I think it’s sad we don’t see them more! Creativity and invention of new skills seems to be too big of risk for modern gymnasts to take; I assume because of scoring concerns. That sucks.. I think it takes a bit of the artistry from the sport.
I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually just took the lower bar away and just had a single bar like in mens gymnastics
They need to give out points for unique routines that aren’t just about a bunch of high point skills Frankenstein together.
Some of these moves such as the strong look so agile.
Kim, Strong and Ma ❤❤❤
Are any of these performed in NCAA?
Comaneci is Romanian
The uneven bars are higher now than back in the 90s,80s and past years
I like the Mo Salto
the COP could experiment with a "Compositional Originality" bonus - you're doing a technique that 90% of other gymnasts aren't doing? Have a bonus 0.2 for it woot woot. Anything to break the cookie cut paradigm we currently 'enjoy'
I feel like a good bar worker could probably figure out a way to make the Strong work for a modern routine. Connecting OUT of it is hard, but you might be able to connect INTO it. For the record, an E+E combination is a 0.2 difficulty bonus, so if a gymnast had the power to do, say, piked Tkatchev+Strong, that's modern-routine value with a unique-skill twist.
The Ma is delightful!
Wait…. No Retton flip??? I thought for sure that would make this list!
Lori Strong performed her signature move out of a straddled Jaeger. There are ways to be able to incorporate the Strong in combination with 1 to 3 other moves,
These moves no longer performed are beautiful ❤️
What is that skill Shannon Miller did in your intro worth today?
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@@tadg2003 Thank you TadG
Famous Korbut Loop is missing...
It is unforgivable saying that Nadia Comenicce is from URSS
I was thinking that the bars weren't as fun to watch as it used to be. Everyone looks the same
Also would've liked to see the alt here
Simone Biles could totally pull off the Mangana. I guess the Korbut flip didn't make the list because it's banned? It's so cool though
Nadia was not Soviet but Romanian.
I wish that unusual moves recieved more points when stringed together in a routine.
They're not being used nowadays because they look difficult as heck especially the high bar releases and grabs.
The Ma sure is pretty, Id love to see that in competition
justice for brenda, bring it baaack.
The ma very interesting
you can add le nemour
Handstand on bar hmmmm are these people humans 😭
Wait a minute, no mention of the Korbut?
If you want total insanity, Zhou Duan performed a Gaylord II successfully (1997), but I believe never in a major acknowledged competition. That was far harder than Mo (Gaylord I).
The code of points really needs a relook
China in the 90’s ✨✨✨ GREAT gymnasts