Poker Hands - Dan Colman Can't Believe Negreanu's Hand
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2016
- Daniel Negreanu is one of the most accomplished players in the history of poker. He has six WSOP (World Series of Poker) bracelets, two WPT (World Poker Tour) titles, and is a regular on shows like High Stakes Poker and the EPT (European Poker Tour) circuit.
In this edition of Poker Hands, Doug analyzes a hand between Daniel and Dan Colman in the Big One For One Drop. In case you haven't heard, this is a tournament with a staggering $1,000,000 buy-in. This isn't your grandpa's home game. This event attracts all the big names, such as Phil Ivey, Phil Hellmuth, Antonio Esfandiari, and even Doug Polk himself.
In this hand, Negreanu takes a very interesting line that leaves Colman bewildered at the showdown. Was Kid Poker just clicking buttons, or was there a deeper method to this madness? Doug dives in and gives his analyses on this tv poker situation.
Poker Hands is a series in which Doug analyzes televised hands and shares his thoughts. New episodes are uploaded every Monday (and sometimes Thursday).
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The point of this video series to provide deeper anaylsis on well known poker hands, if you would like to see the hand without commentary, you can search for it elsewhere on RUclips
If possible, could you always have a small cam on top? When you explain things I still wanna see the table and not a fullscreen of you, so I can remember better whats going on.
Good idea, I'll do that
well the analysis is weird when you see both players hands; i think it is what viewers don't get, maybe you should review one hand and hide all of the opponents hands, that could help to get into their head
+alex bauer dude this is his channel... and you SHOULD want to hear what he has to say, he is one of the best players in the world.
Doug Polk are you a pro ?!? Stfu
I never really comment any encouragement because i dont really know if it means anything to anyone but man.
This is the best series on youtube for me right now and seeing a new polkernews is like getting 4bet jammed on when you have aces.
keep it up fam.
Kind words like this are always appreciated. I've seen your videos btw, they are hilarious.
You can still lose with aces.
You can lose with any hands, but some starting hands are obviously better than others...
Captain obvious award goes toooooooo.....Jonathan! Take a bow!!
meaning maybe its not such a compliment.
the dealers expression at 09:54 is pure gold
She was disgusted by Neagreanu minreraising the turn and hitting the gutshot on the river.
Thanks man! Started to really like your reviews and videos. Keep it up!!!
Well done video. Looks very professional. Thanks for creating+uploading.
Hey Doug, I just wanted to say that I think it's amazing how many people this video has managed to reach out to. It's great that you can be such a figure for poker and that you can help get players to enjoy and get into the game. I understand (as I'm sure you do too) why the dislikes are mistakenly there when there are more people from the outside viewing the video, but I just wanted to say that I think you're doing a great job and I really enjoy these sorts of videos!!
That is a neat review. The best poker related content on youtube for me.
Thank you for the great videos bud!
Hey man, really like this video and the ranging analysis. Found it at random but keep up the good work!
You just came up on my front page and I like your style a lot. Thanks for posting and keep doing it!
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed!
Agree man I recently lost my job and your videos really helping me get through this massive lump of free time.... more videos more streaming!!!
Hindsight is 20/20 Easy to analyze when you see the hands 😃
Aaron Afrah Your mom is 20/20.
Do hand between Lodden and Adrian Mateos on EPT final table, that was a sick bluff.
Nice job btw, just keep going with this series man !
I think the fact that this is a limped pot changes a lot of things as the potential flushes Colman can have are significantly reduced since most of the middling hearts are taken and the premium flush hands are going to isolate pre a good amount of the time.
haha, ah its soo funny people here are complaining about u talking. I mean the best part is ur talking and analysis, otherwise i just could go watch the whole episode of wsop...U are the best out there right now, u really make me play more and get pumped for every session. keep up making more hand analysis.
+outlaw Thanks man! Appreciate the positive words.
I appreciate ur energy and passion for this game. your clips are the best. It really helps me to realize what i am doing and make me think about the game and the whole picture. by the way i have a big tour , day 2 coming on this saturday where i will play as a chipleader here and all im doing is preparing myself. I hope i will make the finaltable, ur postive vibe is helping me a lot and a lot of things u say make really sense and give the confidence.
the reason you're getting criticzism and downvotes is because of your misleading title. people are coming here to expect something that they don't receive. you should title it "poker guide" or "poker analysis", something that would be more accurate to what it actually is. Because it's not the title, and I, like most, will not sit through this shit.
Can u talk about ur 99 v QQ Dneg hand and why u chose 1/10th sizing on the turn v him. My friend and I been arguing about that particular hand
Yeah, you were right. When I saw the other video I didn't think the pictures where too small. But now seeing it, it does look rather small. What is the picture? Who is in the picture?
Somebody knows where i can find this one drop full tournament? I remember a lot of plays that i saw live, specially one of sfandiary vs colman, that colmans 4bet all win with AJ i want to see that again, any one have the video?
@Doug Polk Poker. Love the videos
Maybe a suggestion for future video's: show a video of amateur poker and explain what they do wrong? (If that is possible for single video stuff)
you should rename the show "polker hands"
We've all been saying that for weeks now, but it's not the best play. Poker hands gets 150k views, Polker hands gets like 22k.
+EricSmyth14 Well i searched "polker hands" and this vid came in my top 3 on yt...donno if that's for everyone or just as follow this channel which influences search results...
I think it’d be better if he changes his name to Doug Poke.
Great video Doug! You and I played at the same table in the Main event this year. Day 2
just so great thank you Doug
Looks like daniel is setting up a future value bet. daniel was short stacked, so that is why his size of bet was small. Players, in general hate being bluffed so his play puts that little seed of doubt in the back dg's opponents minds with this unusual series.
I found this very educational and useful. Don't know why there are so many dislikes. Great job, Doug!
well you reminded me that youtube had a dislike button
Brandon, I think this video is being promoted through RUclips unlike any of my other videos. So what is happening is people are clicking this thinking its just a hand when its actually analysis. The people that are coming here are more recreational type players that just want to see what happens and feel mislead I think. Out of my control though!
In that sense, isn't the title of this video, over which you do have control, to be fair, misleading?
I clicked to only see the hand and I'll stay because of the analysis.
you have a new follower.
thanks
+DeepWitz why is it misleading?
I agree Douglas it's the sizing on the turn that is bad.
I totally agree with you Doug about sizing that Negreanu was using during the hand .... I want to hear your opiniot about the hand between Scoot Siever and Rainkemaer :)
Remind me... which hand was that? (what were their cards?)
AA vs K10s
that would be an amazing poker hand! +1
Antonio should have min raised according to Harrington's first volume book on TNLP
lol
Keep up the good work!
How do you know to bring the right amount of money to buy-in to any certain table? Is it based on 50 times the big blind? Is that the way you figure it? I don't like to sit down with a short stack.
what should be the bet size on the river for negreanu? I was thinking like 1.7-2
Good analysis on the size of the raise on the turn. I get what you are saying about the overbluffing, if he does this with all draws but this is live, not online
How did you learn all of this information? I would like to know how to beat the top pros like you can.
@ the turn analysis u forget al pocket pairs under 6s or would you say daniel would always rais those pf against a button flat?
What does it mean when you say better to bluff with the T8/86/low FD with them having less equity vs the value range? Is that 'put lower value cards in the bluff end of your range so they hit the flops your value end doesn't' ?
Hey Doug, appreciate you giving out some of your poker analysis for free here - your insight is very helpful. I have two questions: What do you mean when you say we have a lot of JTs? Do you mean that we Will be playing JTo/JTs from these positions often? And how should we go about constructing our bluffing range since we don't want to have too many bluffs? Should we be calling with our stronger flush draws and raising our weak flush draws? Call with JT and raise with combos of 56 instead? And I suppose we should change the frequency of how we play our range too - like some percentage of the time call with your stronger draws and some other times raise those weaker draws.
he means that you have 16 combs of JTo/JTs and you lot of other combs of other gut shots/open enders and flush draws, whereas there's not many combos of value hands in comparison, which means that folding some or not bluffing all of your draws is the balanced play here..
Damn Daniel! Back at it with the crazy plays!
What is with all the dislikes on this particular video? It`s a great analysis as usual.
+Eduardo Freitas RUclips bumped it and it shows to more people. So we have a much different audience then the average video on this channel. A lot of the people viewing this video don't know who I am and are just trying to watch the hand.
Doug Polk oh i see.
I came for the hand, liked and subbed for your analysis. Nice work !
So when you see it's a Doug Polk video, click a different one? The first 30 seconds of this video literally say it's a show about Doug analyzing famous hands.
I do simply not agree on the analysis
What does he mean at 6:55 regarding equity vs value range?
Daniel missed value on the river. Colman was playing it like he had either a 9 or a big pocket pair on the turn..... with a slim chance of a set, depending on his range. Another 1.5-2M river bet would have gotten paid.
It was a limped pot so Colman doesn't have any big pocket pairs there
You can analyze the hand of unarmed war Between Andrew Robl and Matt Kirk?
That one is super entertaining, yes!
yes please do this doug!
I will put this on the to do list. Doing some WSOP episodes atm because of all the hype around the nov 9.
Nice bro, you can also review the hand of the trips of Fedor beating the two pairs of Dan Smith on the one drop, greetings from Venezuela!
9:56. Dealers face 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi Doug :). I agreed with you at almost everything, but don´t you think that for Daniel Negreanu it is safer to check the river when the flush hits? What if he gets reraised then what? :D I´m not pro player (yet ;) ), just a thought.
Gotta love the way you explain poker it's pretty amazing compared with them others on here ect keep up the good work but I'm gunna have to make you look silly when I climb up from 5/10c, fuck it I might move to vagas and get to work on you early and make you look even more sillier than you do in them 1/2c games 😃
Hey Doug. Great video as always!
Do you think, Colman had an edge over Negreanu in that torunament. I think he played way better, especially in HU later on.
I was goofing around 😂😂😂
You can analyze the hand of Davidi Kitai against Andrew Chen during EPT 8 BERLIN 2012?
Was epic!
I think very carefully before limping with the button. . . or even just calling
Why check when you can bet?
Why call when you can raise?
Why just bet when you can bet all-in?
I want more!
Hey guys new to poker here, what exactly is a 3 bet?
Review your 9s vs Neg Qs. Your microscopic bet got me fucked up.
where can i see that hand?
I think that was the big one for one drop. I just assumed that he was going through a microscopic bet phase.
I, too, would like to know what was running through his mind with that one. As Seiver says afterwards, it seems like a really shitty play.
Chavy Cash it took me 10 months to think about it, but I think it was a blocker bet meant to cheapen and secure a showdown. Doug used negs ego to not get owned if he had bet the river, that's why a check check happened. If he valuebetted, a check raise war would have happened.
Arman Descalzo
He already made a video about it explaining what happened.
Negreanu blocker bet of river? Adds value to a9s and k9s etc doesnt risk much if the flush or boat calls, can get away if shove happens. idk
Limp pre-flop, check around on flop, Negreanu takes a shot on the turn and gets raised by Colman and then gets creative 3-beting light back. Right there Negreanu is ready to give up on his hand and like magic BINGO. Now Negreanu has a showdown value on the river. OMG.
Didnt get it. U said Daniel should 3-bet turn with hands with less equity against colman's value range (low FD, 86,8T) and fold JT, which has a better equity?
It would not be plusEV to make a move with a hand with a better equity and fold hands with worse equity, since you are not calling in any of this cases??
Doug, you should do a poker hands on the 1.2m pot between Guy and Benyamine on high stakes poker
Dan didn't raise on the river because of the 3rd heart. What does he do if reraised or shoved ???
Good analysis, but just remember, sometimes bets are made because YOU think(based on what your perceptions of them are) your opponent will interpret it a certain way.
You forgot to analyse bet/call vs bet/fold on the river for Neg.
i skipped when he start talking
No bet on the river was crazy--
I agree but not about Colman not being likely to have a flush. I would probably play the same way as Colman if I had a straight draw. It was probably the thing that made Neg just check on the river.
Do you guys agree / disagree? (I'm an amateur so Id like to know if I'm thinking backwards here)
The check on the River by Negreanu is the right decision in that situation when one factors in the implied value of going deep in that tournament, his hand is at risk.
@8:30 Maybe even QJ would call, getting such a good price on the turn?
I like the check and call strategy after the river. Don’t want to get bluffed off on the river once He hit the straight . On a blank he would bluff hard
I would like to see Seiver vs Reinkemeier hand ;)
that river so fkn sick
This play of Dan is just to prepare a bluff in the long run. Plus Dan had some history.
Try to mix in few jokes and and little bit of sarcasm into these vids, you do it so well(in your streams and other vids), and I don't think it would interfere with the on point analysis of the hands, it would make it not only educating, but also more entertaining...just an idea (maybe terrible one)
I remember watching this hand and thinking “bet 2.75 million on the river” and I still think he should of bet 2.75 million
I don't disagree, but I think this is the $1million buy-in One Drop, with only 5 or 6 getting paid, and HUGE pay bumps along the way. It's a lot tougher to throw chips at a player like Dan Colman, who could easily have had hit a flush on the river. You are probably right, but the penalties would be severe if you were wrong. Obviously, DNeg didn't have one of his famous reads on Colman that hand.
should have not of
Love your content! Especially when you analyze these famous hands. I wish you'd give us more insight while you're playing! We can all see you're doing advance poker math, ranges and shit, but I'd wish you voice it out more. You're still the goat tho
Also I agree with daniel's 3bet on the turn, sizing is bizarre..
Negreanu confused me here. With the min re-raise on the turn it was almost like he was trying to show that he had a monster hand but wanted to keep it affordable so his opponent would call, getting value and also keeping the other guy around to get more money from him on the river. But then he checked the river to trap when he hit the straight. It was kind of like his story changed and it was just confusing. He feigned strength on the turn and then feigned weakness on the river. I guess with the check on the river he could have been trying to say "that min raise was a bluff and I didn't hit," but that logic just didn't add up to me which is why I think Coleman checked back. Im curious what bet size Coleman would have called to, if any.
On one slant, a gentleman check to not bite too hard while just goofing around
Whattup Doug? We used to play together years ago on stars and you even staked me early on! It's so wonderful to see what a success you've become! Keep up the good work!
review negreanu's bluff against kenney with aq high
Does anyone know what the 'D' means against Estefariy(poor spelling sorry😊)
Dealer (Button)
he is on the button i think
It means the Dealer gave him the D
What does that all mean. Sorry for my lack of poker knowledge. So don't get the button. Having it doesn't mean success?!? Is it good to be given the D?!?
D means you have to go last in a hand, after all people already made their decisions. So yes, its good to be given the D, because you have most of information.
Doug: What about the commentators and what they said?
Coleman wants to put the pressure on the smaller stack.
Hey Doug! This info is soooo valuable bro, Going for Twitch, Pokerstars, RUclips sponsorships????? I bet a lot of people that's watching this don't even realize that some players pay THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR A 1-1 CLASS WITH 1 OF THE TOP PLAYERS IN THE WORLD!..... And it's right here for all to view for FREE!
string bet @ 3:30?
min raise on the turn makes sense to me because if he does hit his straight, he already has a good amount of chips in the pot...
Man if this was poker stars and I had pocket nines on that board I would be very much expecting Daniel to have 4 7's or a straight flush..
Few things. The 3 bet from DN, could have given him the info he needed that either DC hit the board on flop or possibly on a draw. So when the river comes out, even though DN had a straight he couldn't bet. If DN bets, he would have been called by a better hand and/or raised. I doubt DC would be calling at the river with what's out on the table, he would have raised or fold IMO.
Doug, you gotta analyze the last rounds of this tournament where Coleman and Negrreanu have headsup. There was one that Negreanu says “I don’t think you have good hands” and calls 18M with K high. Coleman won that pot with full.
I can’t understand how Negreanu calls 18M with K high! Can you explain why he believed it? I suspect that he just let Coleman win the bracelet.
It's funny listening to you critique one of the best players ever.
The best player ever can still make sub-optimal plays.
@@24magiccarrot I can attest to that 😂
The light 3-bet on the turn indicates a bluff/weak hand by Daniel. The checked river on the flush scare card gives Colman the opportunity to bluff Daniel and for Daniel to call/shove Colman's bluff and put Colman in a tough spot for all of his chips (which is what poker is about). If Daniel bets the river, Colman probably folds because of the straight/flush/boats that are likely to be in daniel's range. Checking was the right move imo.
But then again, I play 5NL LOL!!
I swear this nigga Negreanu can see the future, shit all those raises where insane
paul put his face on every tourney, so its like he play them all ) like a serial killer saves clothes from victims, he feels the adrenaline lol
Yes, but Dnegs needs to continue with his semi-bluff that turned into a monster on the river. Definitely needs to throw a 2mil bet into there.
Wonder whoever said that "wherever jack-ten would be the nuts, someone does have a jack-ten"
:O Poker hands posted not on a monday
+jipmip2332 I'll still hook you up :D
@ Doug Polk Do you think Negreanu's min raise OTT may have been to have leverage for a river shove? IDK stack sizes either, so don't know if that makes sense, but just maybe a larger size would have deleveraged stacks making a call from Colman more likely with something like 9x. Obv since he rivers a straight, river makes sense as played although I agree betting out may have been better, like 3M or something.
I'll start by saying i'm no expert at poker. I appreciate the thought of would-have/could-have that goes into the analysis of a hand, but, a game consists of more than just a hand. Negreanu could be setting the stage for future hands, seemingly playing a weird hand and 'goofing' around to give his opponents a false sense of security, or to keep them on their toes. There are so many ways to play the game that no two hands, even if they are the exact same cards would be played the same way, which is what makes the game so interesting. Negreanu didn't get to where he is by playing goofy hands; he has strategies. Coleman looks like someone who thought he had a read on Negreanu, and then is suddenly blind-sided. What did that do to the rest of his game? Like i said, i'm no expert, not even a regular player, but there is a reason that pros hate playing against amateurs, because they are totally unpredictable. Negreanu wasn't playing by the book and he probably could have gotten more out of that hand, but it has to be seen in the context of the entire game.
I just discovered your channel, and have subscribed, and i do like thinking about the analysis of a hand, but good or bad play of a particular hand has to be taken in context of the entire game, except if one is all-in, then that hand becomes the most important. Just my green chip.
You raise an excellent point in that each poker play can not necessarily be analyzed in just the context of that one hand, especially in a tournament of this magnitude. Negreanu, and Colman for that matter, may have been setting each other up for later hands.
That having been said, these videos are far and away the best of their type on the 'Net.
@@aaaaaaaaardvark No argument there, which is why i subscribed. Excellent analysis of hands and possible ways of playing hands, but they are isolated hands. Unless professionals continually play pedal to the metal all the time, there could have been a number of reasons for playing the way they did, but i do like the analytical breakdown, it is food for thought.
All these people commenting slating Doug for his analysis.. man I hope you're not listening to these fools. I guarantee they struggle at the small stakes while you're bossing the high stakes.. I know who I'd rather listen too lmao.
Keep at it with the top notch work! Subscribed about 2 months ago and haven't missed a video since!
That is always what Dan Coleman's face looks like!!!
I've seen Daniel do this a lot of times and I dont understand it. He checks on the river with a big hand and the opponent just checks back. Its not always on a scary river either.
he is checking to induce a bluff from his opponent, however i must agree sometimes it doesn't work out
A straight isn't a bluffcatch hand, a top pair weak kicker is
what
Fire Music if you don't understand what that means, there's really no point of trying to explain
what i understand is that you will check call top pair but not a straight, whereas most of the time your opponent will bluff a straight/flush board in position
I think negreanu thought if he checked colman would try and represent hearts
Wow!! Doug you can TALK Jesus!!!
I don't mind his extensive analysis. It probably wouldn't have taken him that long to explain if he just stopped repeating himself.
Interesting poker hand, would have been better if Doug didn't talk so much.
It's an analysis of the hand, a play-by-play. There are plenty of videos where you can just stare slack-jawed and listen to them click their chips.
there are a lot of dislikes bc people don't like poker analysts.. because they think they can play... we call them fish :)
A bad check on the river
can you recommend a book, website, or video, to understand what the hell you're talking about?
I don't get the check on river after raising the turn. Coleman is going to check behind because he is afraid of being trapped all because of the raise on turn. Daniel is the best but I believe betting that river is best. He may fold anyway, but could call with top pair second kicker. Actually, I'm back to change my mind. If he bets and gets raised he could have to fold with flush out there.