Dan Colman Makes Incredible Fold vs Scott Seiver!
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Dan Colman and Scott Seiver square off in a massive pot on the Super High Roller Cash Game as pocket aces find themselves in a lot of trouble! But can you ever fold the best starting hand in poker?
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Harvey Weinstein vs. Michael Phelps
LOL
Seiver is Jewish too after all 😂
Damn... underrated comment right here!
Lmao
this made me good ol chuckle
Scott Seiver breathing like he's just been thrown into an ice lake with Wim Hof.
Lmao
Easy tell, exactly the reason I think Dan folds
@@usernamesrlamo nah the reason is he think he has kings! watch the video dumbass!
Seiver trying to act nervous is hilarious.
@@oriondx72 It still was an easy tell, that he was beat.
Schullman on the mic is always gold
I'll take 1 Gabe Kaplan over 100 Schullmans any day.
He’s the worst. Vocal fry at its finest. I can’t watch because of this tool
I'm with you, love Schullman
Announcers are idiots.
He should do this
Player does opposite
Ohhhh good play
He should call but.......
He raises hey thats great
Doug Polk: Easy fold.
Phil Hellmuth: What's this guy doing? He's supposed to call every time!
Vanessa Selbst : allright i call... what else can i do ?
So sick i knew you had that hand.
Helmuth: honey he called 70k with 9s preflop ...amateurs
Pretty sure Doug said to call around half of your aces, or call your AK and fold your AA if Scott doesn't play AA this way so AK might be better call blocking KK.
Seiver strong player so definitely has bluffs so you can't fold everything. He could have A5s, AQs. He's mainly repping KK that's only 3 combos and some 99 and AA which I estimate has around 3 combos. So he needs to bluff 2.5ish combos of bluff for the bet size.
@@maheshpun4804 if Seiver had KK wouldnt he 6-bet? Or could he just call to play post flop IP?
@@danielfcastro Maybe, but 6-betting is pretty hard to balance, at that point he basically would only have KK or AA. Is he ever 6-bet bluffing with something like A5s? Hard to imagine. I think most players would simply not have any 6-bets and just keep an uncapped range on a call.
I’m leaning towards calling, although raising or folding is perfectly fine.
He elects to raise. I’m okay with that, although I am also okay with calling or folding.
Either option is fine! 😂😂
Ok Vanessa!
Those are the 3 options btw
@@pokerboy72
You are a poker prodigy!
In fact, the suggested calling is the worst option lol
i’ve only seen this hand 37 times.
Every time I think I’m getting better at poker I watch this happen then I’m like ok back to 2-3
So much for those implied odds. Outplayed.
I think Colman know it :)
Damn A’s were cracked by both 9’s and 8’s. What a cold deck.
lol Seiver trying to look nervous after the river shove.
I’m all in. 🥺
lol and this is why Dan Colman crushes.
I dont think this is a good representation of why he crushes it, he played this hand badly and lost 120k he shouldn't of
@@lucasyt306 If he folds aces on the turn there, he is paying super nitty and exploitive, and is basically only wanting to set mine or play ace suited hands for flushes...
@@michaelangst6078 I dont think it's super nitty to fold aces there , reason being so much money went in pre flop that it would be easy to put siever on kings in fact I would have convinced myself that was his hand , so not nitty at all
Well if you, a micro stakes crusher, would’ve convinced yourself then I guess I should take your advice and play bad
5 betting was the only 'mistake' here, it's fine as well
The breathing and the chip flop chip glance on the flop and the chip stare after the Turn from Scott Seiver were obvious tells. Also his body posture went from slightly leaning back before the flop to sitting straight almost on the poker table after te flop and the turn.
Nice lay down! AA: Win a small pot, loose a big one. Colman smelt it. Poker is not about winning or loosing. Poker is about making the right decision.
Since Polk folded a flopped straight you could probs imagine someone folding one pair now and again
Where is this obsession coming from about not folding aces after the turn and river when not improving??
It’s all about context bro that was an entirely different situation
@@ipayyoutube9252 2003
i didnt like polks fold to nitty in my book even thought it was a good fold
Well mr.Polk is a gto God so that's no suprise.
Well, not as hard of a fold if you think about it. What is Colman’s range when he 5bet? What is Seiver’s range when he calls a 5bet? It’s not like Doug and Phil in which Phil had a wide range and then polarized it with an all-in on the flop, both Colman’s and Seiver’s range have gotten quite narrow by their preflop battle. The best case scenario for Colman was Seiver having AKs, but given Colman had 2 of the 4 aces on the deck, Seiver’s range got even tighter.
Seiver’s on that 5bet was pretty much AA, AKs, KK, QQ, JJ, TT and 99, but given you block so many of the aces, it’s hard to put him on either AA or AK (and with AA he would probably have 6bet).
Your range is also super tight when you 5bet preflop, flop comes 9-K-2 rainbow, you bet small, he calls you, turn comes 3h, but the Kh is on the board, there is literally no way hero or villain has a flush draw given AKs is the only suited hand they have on their 5bet range. You check, he bets small, you call. What is the villains range when he value bets the turn? If he needed protection or wanted to take you off the hand he would need to bet much bigger. Their already small range got even smaller, you can take off the QQ, JJ and TT. They now have either AA, AKs (both of which you block and with AK he should not be betting small, he should be either checking or raising bigger), KK, 99.
River comes 8d, changes nothing. He value bets you again. Villain is either bluffing in a spot he should not be bluffing or he has you beat, Seiver is a good player, he knows better than to bluff with small bets on the turn and the river after a flop that hit your opponents range.
Not saying I’m a good player, I could not have folded the hand that Doug folded against Phil, but this one is a much easier fold.
By the way, I would never have put Seiver on 99, I would have put him on KK, and I’m quite sure both players would have played this differently if it weren’t for that King on the flop. If instead of a King, you had any card smaller than a Ten, this hand would have been quite different and I’m sure Colman’s would have gone broke.
I agree with everything you said. I also find it weird that Coleman would bet on Turn knowing that if he cared an all in he wouldn't be able to call. Maybe the TV makes it harder to fold aces
Great commentary. Really keeps you in it because they’re right, he’d never make the play w AK
Generally speaking we want to fold aces roughly 24.86% of the time if we are playing proper GTO
Dork ass 🤓
When seiver has a good hand he sits straight and puts his bets really far out there.
He does the same with a bluff
His belly too!
dude play him hu and take all his money!!! u exploited him!! what a fish
He also tends to "crack oreos" by his ears, to then place them back on the tray.
@@guccimane7348 I did.
I'm really a fan on that commentary, I wish to see more that on PokerGo.
It's actually silly how hard Seiver was breathing to look nervous and then he tried to make his voice quiver when he said "I'm all in."
It’s cause he’s a goof
I just wrote this. His overacting was comical. He even tried to cry a little. Lmao.
@@daveyfadess
Lmao
??? That’s no acting…Panting heavy means you have a very strong hand, one of the easiest and oldest tells in the book and probably why Dan folds
Why do you think he wasn't nervous ?
It all depends on the situation.. I’ve folded aces post flop many times before.. never preflop obviously.
There are tournament situations where folding AA preflop is correct, but very rare.
@timtrfny timtrfny Or on the bubble if a few players go all before you in and you’re short
U definitely want to fold them preflop around 5.62% of the time IF playing Game Theory Optimal ( GTO) for obvious reasons.
@@BoleDaPole lol
@timtrfny timtrfny depends how your bankroll management is I guess. But I think if min-cash money means so little you’re probably playing too cheap tournaments. If I have 3BB on the BTN on the bubble for a $100 min-cash, and a few people go all in before me, I’m folding AA and at least cashing the $100.
Siever is 100% upset he didn't play it differently and didn't get a call
Isn’t the answer obvious? Pre flop No, post flop, rarely.
@JohnnyAppleseed if you thinks aces are bad more often than not after the three cards on the flop, I will happily play you any time.
@JohnnyAppleseed Calgary, you?
This little twitch was the tell that gave it away that he has the winning hand 4:52
All the pros fold AA preflop
Seivers such a mouth breather.
AA is often "only" just one top pair
it’s an overpair though, not a top pair. AA is strong specifically because it dominates top pair.
3:21 "i can hear you"
At the end of the day Aces are just a pair
@@peace2700 its a fact mate. And I think everyone has lost at least one hand with AA so don't really get your comment
Great fold by Dan!
Seiver was breathing like he had just run a marathon, and sat up straight after he jammed, which is a sign of strength as well. Good fold.
You are given the best first hand possible. Folding is lit an option. Nobody has a better hand that you for the moment. Even if they connect a pair are behind you...
Mike Postel would have folder on the turn bet 😎
He would have folded pre. 😂
Colman is putting him on pocket Kings. If there was no king on that board, Seiver gets everything from Colman
If Colman studied Postle's Crotch Theory he lays this down quicker, easy fold.
Easy fold on that flop for my man Mike Postle !!
At 3:15 do the commentators suggest that ak would check back the turn because they would be scared of aces? Is there any other reason?
Yes and also to potentially get value from worse holding. If Scott bets the turn with AK, Queens jacks tens etc are gonna fold. If u get called, you’re mostly up against aces so check back is mostly to keep worse hands in and keep pot smaller against better hands
Coleman with the Ah knows the amount of flush bluffs are close to zero which is why it’s good to 3bet lower suited connectors pre some of the time
Seiver still needed to make $60K more in order to *break even* on calling the 5bet. Impressive ability by Colman to control the size of the pot, NH!
We could hear Scott Seiver’s nervous breathing across the country, of course Dan Colman picks up on that.
That's discipline
Aces are not immune.
Sometimes they have to be folded.
Is that the voice of AJ Benson?!?!?!
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
Not pre flop, but I've folded AA on the flop several times, and I was right most of the time. Don't think I could fold it on the board.
Should have gone all in preflop!
Maybe I just see the cards and am biased but if someone is raising and calling raises like that preflop I gotta put them on a high pocket pair. That King on the board is the key for me. Someone with a lower pocket pair than a king is not going to be going all in on the river unless they hit a set. Good fold but I'm gonna be that guy that says it's not a "OMFG what a fold" hand.
All in preflop or fold after flop that good option!
He made Reinkemeier fold AA in one drop but that time the AA was winning!
If Seiver mouthed the same spiel that he did against Reinkemeier there's a chance that Colman calls ...I think Colman was thinking on that very hand when he told Seiver he had AAs
izy fold OTR i never see bluffing range or merging range in this spot
Only time I'd consider it is if I'm on the bubble and there's 2 all in already to place me in the money. But even then I'd only consider it.
Holly shit. They are playing millions of cash. I play 100NL and fierce heartbeat
Yes! Low chip before bubble in high buy in tournaments.
Scott needed to check the turn and shove river
Give me just one bluffing hand that Seiver can have.
QJh if you want a bluffing hand
What a hand
Always tough to let go of Aces but if you don't get married to them you can save yourself a lot of money. Scott never acted scared that Coleman might have AA and guessing that's why Coleman could find a fold in that situation. That's some good discipline by Coleman
sizing on turn tells us where we are at already, he lost an unnecessary 120K if his read was already KK.
Is that heavy nervous breathing by Seiver i hear in the background?
I'm losing all my chips. I'd think 99 made more sense then KK. Doesn't he push pre with KK? What is your take?
Shove pre for 500bb? Nah. That would be a huge mistake with KK there.
should have bet something goofy like 338k leaving himself 5k instead of all in, might have gotten the curious call
Dumb stuff like that only works on bad players. If anything, it looks stronger
It's time to post high stakes poker to RUclips !
Seiver is the biggest donk going. Calling a 5 bet with 9s.
Seivers breathing heavily massive tell
Should you ever fold aces?? It's still just one pair, right?? Preflop, sure be aggressive. But at the end you don't improve, you still just have one pair.
THANK YOU!
23 92 etc has aces beat not that seiver would have those hands thats what makes folding them difficult bot not impossible
Preflop? Hell no!
Postflop? There are situations when folding is the right move.
if im on the bubble in a tourney for a ton of money im always folding aces lol if theres large raises pre
Well the GTO play is to 4 bet pre flop. Look for the exploitative theory with the other players in.. looks like both players are 400 BB effective. The plus EV move would to be fold because I have no idea what I'm talking about.. I can barely afford a Uber ride home after playing 1-2 at my local casino.
If it wasn't for the K he would have called
The title of the video implied the issue was whether or not its ok to call pocket aces before the flop. OBVIOUSLY there are times when it's a good idea to fold pocket aces after the flop, so this is a stupid title.
Lmao !!! Scott over acting scared lmao !! Hahahahahahaha dude looks up adjusts him self and brings a tear to his eyes lmao !!!! These dudes lmao they kill me.
Calls a terrible 3 bet with 9’s & gets rewarded. Ugh. Poker is brutal.
I lost a hundred bucks going all in with pocket aces.
what a tragedy
You don’t count the other three times when you winning
I lost over $400 at the casino when a player raised pre-flop and another bluff reraised all-in with K5 with me to follow with AA. Of course, the K5 hit his two pair.
why not..
Before watching this video: My answer to this question is YES, especially if you have more than 1 ALL IN bets before the action comes to you. Reason is odds to showdown win for Aces become drastically unfavorable the more players there are in the showdown action.
I don't see why Scot should check back if he had AK
I think you cant fold river without beeing exploitable at this spot, i think the only combo you should be worried is KK, 99 is a bad call pre flop because he put 46k to potentially Win 580k If he stacks the other Guy with this odds he needs 8% equity, but, he Will flop a set only 12% and on those 12% of the time he can be up against better sets, anyway, playing with 500 big blinds is really wierd.
I’m going broke! Apparently by other comments everyone folding AA haha
i hear u but u gotta remember he only has top pair
@@kidpoker9408 yeah but he really should only be losing to pocket kings. No 2 pairs, no straights or flushes, 99 4 betting and calling a 5 bet is not exactly standard play. Blocking the nfd and AK makes a fold a little easier, but in this instance 1 pair is a pretty strong hand
@@Yurdleyah I think Colman knows Seiver isn’t balanced here. Seiver’s range is super narrow as you say. If Seiver was an online GTO monster then I think it’s a call. But i don’t see Seiver having any bluffs here, and I don’t think he often plays AK like that either.
@@nintendokings AA with a heart has terrible hand removal there but siever is repping 1 maybe 2 hands there. Tough decision either way u think about it
@@Yurdleyah yep. It’s a tough one. I know Seiver is only repping like 1 hand, but in a 5bet pot how often is Seiver gonna show up with AK or a random low frequency bluff like JhTh here, given the action? KK + a once in a blue moon 99 is more likely. Online high stakes I think would call but live against Seiver given how chill he was I think that’s why Colman folds
How old are these videos?
I’m all in. 🥺
I’ve seen Laak do it twice
What a lucky shit Seiver is, 4bet pre, flop a set, and get a super clean runout. I'm so glad he didn't get paid off on the river.
Allen Cunningham-esque fold here. Nice
Why incredible ? The question is more how could you not fold A,A if the opponent goes all in on the river.
Obviously he is very strong, stronger than just one pair for sure.
Totally normal lay down.
As long as not folded pre flop that's normal
Lays down a monster. Should have paid me off on that. Da fuq did you lay that down?
based on that action yes aces can be folded
What a runout for Colman. Second nuts with 99
It's never optimal preflop unless your in a tournament close to the bubble. Duh.
someone did it on Pokerstars The Big Game, dodged quads
Folded pre flop to lock up a big win.
I’ve done it at least six or seven times and was right more often than not. It’s not hard to do.
I've folded aces on the flop before but it was only bc the player who bet was the type player who would only bet with a set. The two players on my side of the table couldn't believe I folded and when the guy rolled over the set of 7's I say "Ya see!!" 😎
Before the flop, the answer is no. It can only be done after the flop.
Hmm does Scott get all the money if he doesn’t 4 bet pre? Coleman could never put him on kings, and would never fold with 99 and 22 being the only hands he can’t beat.
All i saw is how easily he could have folded to AK there....just played the hand scared and put him on Kk which would have made little sense.
Pink shirt breathing so hard on the river 😂
I always wanted to fold pocket aces pre-flop face up. Just to mess with people.
hosting a cash game tonight Dave come thru
@@mydogsbestfren7490 Sorry, can't make it...covid.
With my luck with pocket aces, this sounds like a good plan. I swear to God that I have lost more hands when I have them than I have won.
What hand could be beat? Every set or two pair combo has him beat.
Bluffs, but, idk, o i would be mostly afraid of kings
Seiver calling 5bet 70bb pre to hit a set.
After he 4 bet with 99 ( it was huge mistake). Colman should 5 bet 120 k and winn there!
Not preflop. But sure.
It is a good fold but he has to do it..don’t get married to huge pairs especially AA
Ppl who say this always the guy who would never do it lol
Hehe..possibly true, but if you have AA and your opponent has called and even raised you before getting to the river it squeaky bum time even on a board as dry as this