Is A Basic Work Truck Any Good Off-Road? 2023 Ford F-150 XLT Single Cab Takes On Tumbleweed Ranch!
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50 grand for a single cab is a thing I never thought we’d see
It's a shame really. As long as people need them and keep buying them, it's going to get worse.
It’s asinine.
My oldest brother bought a F150 step side new in 1992. He paid 18k for it. I thought that price was insane in 92' when I was 10 y.o. Now that seems like peanuts by comparison. Wow
I bought a Ford ranger in 1995, which I still drive. It is the Splash edition, sport suspension, step side, extra cab and the sticker was $16,000. This video is the reason I still drive it.
@@jpabon18 I used to have a 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 Regular Cab base model and that thing was originally $18k new from the previous owner. It's absurd that people are paying more than $30k for base model trucks when you can get one a couple of years older for so much less.
I like the way he spec’d his truck out, it’s a perfect package - just a shame how expensive these trucks are even in this “basic” configuration.
Sure is my idea of the perfect truck for my needs.
Ford is a greedy company, force the quad cab on everyone
in Scranton, PA my f'g house is only worth 65 grand..... maybe.
Back in the mid 1970s I priced out an F100, 302, 4 speed, short box, am/fm cassette at a local dealer...... under $6000.00. Prices are whack. I suspect lots of people are living beyond their means because I see lots of new vehicles in this financially depressed town.
@@peterhulse1064 yep. People are getting incredibly long loans with incredible high interest rates to have the latest and greatest.
Short wheelbase with 4X4 and locker is a very capable vehicle.
Dam straight
Must have been originally equipped by FORD with such spec's (not after market)!!
Plus, you can turn In around on a dime if the trail is too bad and “Hank Snow” on out of a bad spot.
Short bed/single cab trucks are ridiculously underrated
shortbed my butt
I love my 99 F150 SB RC 4x4
@@Poohdaddymagic wanna race my '98 Z71 standard cab stepside?
I love that there's a bunch of us out there that prefer driving 25 year old trucks!
My 95 tacoma 4x4 single cab will go just about anywhere on 31s
@@nickm9134 Yep. i have a 2008 std cab on 31's. Goes everywhere I've asked it to go
Thanks TFL for having me out. Had a great time at tumbleweed ranch. Everyone on the TFL team was super kind and knowledgeable. Always a good day getting muddy and off-roading! Can’t wait to see future content.
I’ve done offroad, human, and animal search and rescue for some 6 years now and had a 2 door jeep on 37s prior. Needed a truck I could cruise around Moab and also haul drywall, lawn equipment and more. Lot of folks ask about the 2.7 vs the 5 and I picked 2.7 because forced induction does better at elevation though I do have to pay more for 87 octane here since that’s mid grade in Colorado. So far the truck has fit all the needs I’ve needed it for. It gets good fuel economy, drives it self on the highway (kinda) , off-roads well, hauls stuff, will tow a side by side and it’s comfortable.
One thing that wasn't addressed in this video was, did you get the 35-inch tires from the factory, or did you add those on after you bought the truck?
@@whoeever Ford doesn’t offer 35s on any truck other than the raptor to my knowledge. It came with 31in tire from factory. I believe tremors come with 33s
Nice truck. TFL keeps calling it “basic” but it really isn’t. It’s well equipped. Was kind of annoying actually.
@@tylermacconnell217 it was annoying
@@Wolf902 truck did great. good job man
50k is absolutely insane for that truck. Low 40’s, it’s a short bed regular cab.
with NO V-8 !!!
It should be 30 max
Hell, I bought my reg cab short bed V6 4x4 F150 used for $18k back in 2013 with only 40k miles. Stupid prices nowadays.
@@LuigiVbattista💯
Can do a v8 Ranger for like 3k lol
What a sweet truck. I would love one, for 35 grand.
Yeah the Toyotas are pretty sweet. Way more reliable too
@@RobertoCalifornica And about 10-15 grand more expensive.
@Roberto California 20 years ago maybe. Toyota "reliability" these days is mediocre. Hence why the 3rd gen Tacoma was rated least reliable midsize truck for 3 or 4 years in a row and they insist that it's "normal" for their engines to drink up to 1 quart every 1200 miles. With the new Tundra, dealers tell customers it's a normal characteristic for the truck to hesitate for 2 to 4 seconds when taking off from a stop and feel like the truck is going to stall out. Even Lexus has been putting out some lemons these days.
@hochhaul I stand by my statement. Toyota are way more reliable.
@ExaltedDuck yeah.. but you can buy a used Toyota and still get long term use out of it. I wouldn't buy any new rig. They all suck. I work on them 5 days a week. My newest vehicle is an 02 and I'll not go any newer if I can avoid it. Toyota are still the best
Respect to the guy that takes a brand new truck on the course. A true car guy.
but he ordered a 2.7L
I mean I took my then brand new ranger in the dunes so 🤷
@@greenmachine6146 I agree. Who would want a 325 HP 2.7 with 400 lb ft of torque that gives 0-60 times similar to last gen sports cars and pulls like a diesel? Everyone knows a V8 would have got him through that course.
@@jcb615 Who would want to pay for those turbos when they fail? I'd take the V8 even if it's slower.
I think the truck had more testostterone than those two guys combined........
It drives me crazy that hardly anybody is making 2 door pickups anymore. Just got a 2 door bronco and turned it into a work vehicle, I absolutely love it,
I have this same truck in the XL package, Coyote V8 3.73 gears and 33s but without the FX4 package. 10k less and It's done fantastic for me so far.
You could add an amazing Carli pin top suspension and still have money left over. I agree with you, the FX4 package is NOT worth 10K
GR8 JOB 😊
@@christiandulaney1638 the FX4 package is only $1100 on it's own. That, the 2.7, and 4x4 are $6200 combined.
I have literally the same truck you described. Love it!
@@christiandulaney1638 Carli does not do F150 stuff. Straight axles and maybe some Bronco stuff soon.
I'm a Chevy man but that truck is COOL. Regular cab trucks were everywhere growing up.
Tell me why you like chevy. Only reason i look at these fords is because i see them as king of crap mountain these days sadly its just how it is
@TheAnnoyingBoss I think that's just subjective. My ford typically make it past 300k miles before I even consider selling it. I rarely ever have issues but I have bought a Tundra which everyone says is reliable and it had a differential problem that never truly went away even with warranty. After a year I bought a new Ford and it's got 125k miles right now 0 issues
I have a 2015 F-150 XL short bed-regular cab 4x4. Same configuration as this truck, 2.7 ecoboost, FX4, and just about every option you could get on an XL in 2015. MSRP was $39K, it was on the dealer lot for about 5 months and I paid $27K. Wanted the coyote, but I am very pleased with the 2.7. I have averaged 21mpg over the 122k miles I have put on it.
My 16 coyote is getting 15 on 35’s
It’s a nice old school setup with a good short wheelbase. Now if it wasn’t so expensive. $30-35k would be reasonable.
30 max
I love a regular cab, short bed truck, it’s a classic old school look.😎
Well spec'ed truck, thoughtful owner who is modding to make a good base vehicle even better! Hope to see more F-150s on the channel.
That's an awesome truck, but still trying to wrap my head around base trucks (XL) costing 50K.
Because this isn't a base truck. Trims don't really mean anything, especially on fords. All it does is decide what front end you are going to have since you can option most things besides special seats on lower trims. It's easy to option an xlt or king ranch to cost more than a platinum.
@@ferretsmiles sure but the XLT starts at $42k before adding anything.
Was not a base truck at all, upgrades: XLT package 101a, 4WD, locking rear, engine upgrade 2.7L, 360camera, FX4 package, tow package (or aftermarket hitch) not sure about others but 2.7L has a payload package upgrade option. Plus as seen he spent 1.5K on shocks and perhaps 1-1.5k on tires. Also talked of adding wench and perhaps Torsen up front. He is a VERY knowledgeable truck owner. This was NOT a basic work truck by any means. Base 2023 XL RCSB starts around 35.6k
@@Chris-ut6eq no one said it was a base truck. A base truck is 4x2, not 4x4. That's an immediate cost option as is swapping the 3.3 for the 2.7. That said, it's still considered a work truck as it's not the luxury Lariat version.
Yes he is a very knowledgeable truck owner. Should have seen the Wrangler he built before this. It was equally as nice.
@@Chris-ut6eq That was my bad. I had assumed XL Line. Yes XLT with it's option package does line up better with the price
Gotta Love reg cab full size short beds ! Great vid TFL keep em coming with real folks and their trucking needs !
As someone who owns a Supercab with a 6.5' box, I have an awful turning radius. I love having the huge back seat but the standard bed is a must for me. Funny to think this was a typical configuration when I was growing up, now its pretty rare to see. If I were to buy another, I'd go back to having the Crewcab with the 6.5' bed.
How do you mean "rare"? Short bed crew cabs are by far the most common configuration on the market. Rare is non fleet regular cab long beds and the white whale of those is the extended cab long bed.
Drama free. Great choice/configuration Tyler. That is the modern version of what I had from the 70's.(XLT) Cannot wait to see the 4R footage from the back lot since it was teased in conversation here.
I was able to get a 2022 GMC Pro regular can shorty with all the options available for 40K due to the fact it was on the lot and no one buys this type of pickup anymore. Very capable off road trucks.
Cool. Short wheelbase for turning and breakover angle is of supreme importance. You are getting the 'jeep' of the pickup world with single/6.5. I've seen a few Chevy 6.5/singles but every GMC 'pro' is 8ft box around N. IL.
Where are you from? Those trucks sell like hotcakes in SW U.S.
@@edgarh252 Basically the only people who buy them are Mexicans in texas or other states to lower / slam them to the ground and straight pipe and put stickers on them. Anywhere else you dont see regular cabs much anymore
Great configuration.
What a great way to learn the off-road capabilities of your truck.
Best part of this truck is actually having wheels with normal rims with big sidewalls, whose idea was it to start putting lower profile tires on trucks?
That’s a good looking truck. Picture with an Alucabin and rigged for overlanding. Good package.
America's, look at how many millions of trucks are sold and never touch dirt. It's a status symbol, not a tool, so it has to look nice - sacrificing functionality.
@Wolfsbane1100 imo big rims on trucks don't look nice, quite the contrary. Big sidewalls look nice
@@squatchwatch5237 LOL, I have 20 inch rims with big sidewall tires on my truck and it looks good.
@@freedomrings1420bet it looks like shit. Lmaooo. 18s is the biggest any truck should have.
The guest today reminds me of Ron Howard, and that's not a bad thing! lol. I like his enthusiasm and friendly nature. Really nice truck.
When you know what you want/need/will use in a truck is an example of this man! I work at a dealership and deal with people that come in saying their 4wd isnt working when the vehicle is set in 2wd. nuff said
That tells me your sales people don't teach your customers how their new truck operates. Nuff said...iñ my younger years I worked at a Ford dealership.
this is literally one of my absolute dream trucks
Youre gullible. Stop making aversge commercial vehicles your dream vehicle. Thats part of why these things cost so much. Youre out there waiting in line to overpay wondering why life costs so much
@@jakewillits4678 Are u illiterate or did u not see the word "ONE" in that sentence? No one gives a rats ass abt ur opinion
Very cool truck. Respect to Tyler for his offroad mods that actually make the vehicle better offroad.
I have seen enough ''offroad'' trucks riding on silly 20'' wheels to last a lifetime.
That's weird that the cameras not coming on unless in rock crawl mode,
I can turn them on in my '22 Supercrew anytime.
Wonder why Ford changed that ?
I ordered my 2021 F150 4x4 regular cab short box very similarly.
It's an XL trim 4x4 regular cab short box, 5.0 coyote, No FX4 - added the rear locker, skid plates and 3.73 axle stand alone, snow plow prep for the alternator/battery/front receiver prep combo, 360 degree camera, BLISS and tow package. Payload sticker is 1,757 pounds.
So very similar in features minus the "trail control" at a much lower cost. 40K with incentives and no "market adjustments" and 14K trade in for a 2007 Tundra with 110K plus miles. I got front end Covid shut down lucky as it was ordered in November of the previous year.
Love it. It's a little sleeper with a wheelbase 2 inches shorter than a double cab Tacoma and a 6.5 foot bed I can sleep in without having to ball up.
Get them while you can. Only Ford and Ram are left standing with the regular cab, short wheelbase/box option.
Can you confirm the plow prep package has all of that stuff? When I bought my 2015 new, the plow prep package was a $50 option, and only includes a switch on the dash to turn off heated seats, fog lights, etc to save power for the plow. No change in springs, battery, or alternator. Now, it's a totally different story for the Super Duty.
@@brentfromsomewhere It was on the build and price tool when I ordered it, was certainly more than 50 bucks though!
Ford changes options every year. For the 2021 model year, you could highly option an XL. Not sure about now.
Check the current build and price tool.
I absolutely love my 5.0 4x4 rcsb. Running the same 35x11.50 tire setup. Some full skids and remove the active air dam and you’re set.
These are my favorite kinds of trucks. Short bed, single cab, not a bunch of bells and whistles. These need to be more popular.
Yes not enough options and competition increasing the bang for buck of these work horses
New trucks are so expensive. I bought my 97 F150 regular cab, short bed Lariat with the 4.6 and offroad package for $6000 back in 2005 with 100000 miles on it. It's super capable off road due to the short wheelbase and it's been a great truck. With today's prices I'll keep it forever if I can.
This is one of the best looking trucks I’ve seen. I really like the single cab. That would have been good with a coyote and the new supercharger, but I would have probably gotten the 2.7 as well.
I would've went with the 3.5. More torque.
@@Turshin3.5 isn't available in standard cab trucks. 5.0is the .
biggest
The 2.7 is just I feel like im compromising my morality by putting any money towards one. Damned 2.7 in a truck bro half of it is plastic. They charge you arm and leg wake up
Such a cool and classic looking truck. That was more common years ago, the single cab lifted 4x4. Used to off-road single cab 4x4's in the Rockies years ago and they were beasts in 4LO and took a thrashing.
We have this same truck, same trim but a quad cab, I’m a contractor for the forest service. It’s actually bananas how good these Fords are off road.
Such a cool truck!! Love Ford trucks awesome truck Tyler!!😆 my dad has an f150 I love it!
Sick truck. I had a single cab 2004 v8 fx4 with the stepside bed and 35s with a 2.5-inch lift. And man, do I miss that truck. I wish I had kept it and installed a rear locker.
In 08 I bought a 03 XLT. For 10k. KBB values it at 6k today. $265 dollar a year depreciation rate, ( unheard of ). With 133.000 miles on it I believe I may keep it a while longer.
Can’t beat those 10th gens, hold onto it and maintain it
Yes definitely more F-150s on the course please. 🙏
Nice rig, good job guys.
Great video! Love it! I have a 2014 F150 XL Regular Cab 8’ box 5.0L 4x4. Work truck w/heavy payload package. With moderate off road light truck tires, goes everywhere I need it to. 👍
This dude sounds like he'd be a good occasional guest host.
Love the content! I personally have a 22 F150 with the same configurations but with a 5.0. I love seeing its capable of so much considering its so short!
I love my fully loaded 22 xlt regular cab. Been to 12 states and lots of dirt roads. I have the Torsen Front diff installed as well. Would love to check out this course sometime
What a nice and capable rig wish Chevy offered something like this from factory, specially suspension, diff lock and fancy tech. Great vid guys.
Im pretty sure they do
i just got a 17 single cab, xlt 8ft bed 4x4 with the 3.7l and its lifted. offroad monster
He spec'd it out pretty much exactly how I would've. I just can't afford anything new now. I should've pulled the trigger back in '17-18 when you could get one spec'd like this for 25-30k
Great video guys! Happy to see an F-150 that is not a Raptor going Off Road.
Slow and controlled is the best technique for off roading. Of course there are times that you need some throttle but not often.
This guy off roads how I do in my Rubicon and rarely do I need to use full lockers or get stuck. On a positive note there is less cleaning compared to the others I off road with who like to gun it.
I have the exact same package 2023 XLT single cab but with the 5.0 engine and off-roading is always extremely fun
Love me a short bed standard cab. As a Chevy guy. I believe the old Ford short bed standard cab big straight six with a stick was one amazingly reliable truck.
Actually a really cool truck . Nice package . Good performance .
Its so nice of TFL to let children have a go at presenting the show 👍
Prices are why I bought a used 2017 F-150 XLT in a private sale. New pricing is insane.
Love this!!
Good driving Tyler.
i wouldve bought it with the v8 because resale and reliability is miles ahead. Especially since they figured out tuning these SBSC with the coyote has become a go to for the guy that basically wants a Mustang amd needs a bed or wants a 4wheel drive mustang. they are only 4500lbs and identical truck but v8 David van voris just bought to do a build serious with tbe new gen4 coyote.. gen 3 has been done and guys have made over 1200whp and run 8s in the 1/4 on stock sealed coyote Midnight performance has tons of them out. there boost and fuel amd you have a supercar hypercar / kill modified cars easily with a stock sealed engine. no heads no cams no pistons no rods no opening the engine unless you want to go built motor which then you can make up to 2500hp on factory block. basically hellcat weight but you can actually make these handle like shelby does they have actually become the best selling vehicle through shelby. you can go street or offroad build with 750whp to 1200whp for way less than a trx or raptor or raptor R 40 50k for truck 15k for fuel system tune and boost nice wheels and suspension for track or offroad 10k. and going really big power go built trans
gen 3 Coyote isnt really much better I've heard in terms of reliability. The 2.7 is a stout performer and has been largely reliable over the years. If you want ultimate power, sure get a different engine, but for this owner the 2.7 sounds like the perfect setup in that regular cab.
I'd be pissed if my tire weights were mounted to the face of an alloy wheel!
Super nice truck, in my opinion you spec it out perfectly, it's crazy the prices of trucks today & it's funny how the XLT is considered a basic truck today, back in the 70's an XLT was a nice truck. Telling my age now 😅.
Nice truck. Good run thru the ranch. A little more elaboration on the running gear would have been helpful. I went to the Ford site and am seeing the performance suspension stuff he added essentially gave him a 2~2.5 inch level? And that's all that was needed to fit the 35's ? And the factory gear ratio was ???
As we mildly mod. these rigs not far beyond stock, and factor capability at 20% truck & 80% driver, his mods and tires did very well for giving the truck some good trail performance. Don't have to spend a ton to mildly modify to get to some nice off road destinations (but an arm and a leg for a rig purchase these days). As it is now and add a winch up front.....bam! Not sure if these newer fords are the same as 10 years ago with that huge void space up front behind the bumper...... But on my stocker 2013 with 2.25 leveling and 1" block in the back on street radials..... Rough Country makes a cool hidden 9500lb winch kit for the Fords, that's an easy peasy clean factory look install. This vid was helping me evaluate going to 34" bfg's (285-70-R17) on factory wheels. Thanks!
I ordered a similar truck in 1987. Ford XL regular cab/Long BX. Black/Red. 300" F.I 6-cyl/5-speed. Lockers Frt & Rear. Quad shock Front suspension. Ford was having trouble producing automatics so I got a substantial discount because I ordered a manual. Total delivered price $9,755. IT was the only new vehicle(of many) that I had trouble with from day one. Two weeks in the shop for tranny work. Off and on dealer repair ofthe Electronic ignition.
In addition, less than two years before purchasing the Truck, I bought a new SVO Mustang. Ford didn't even have service bulletins for that, but it was a sweet car and the Best Mustang ever to date and well beyond.
My dad has been looking for and considering ordering a 2023 f150 xlt base model single cab/short bed with the 5.0 coyote with a locker, he doesn't want a truck with a 4cyl or v6 bc he tows a tractor regularly. As long as you don't add anything extra other than the v8 and the locker you can order it for about $38k
I love this mans truck setup. reminds me of my granpas 2019 single cab shortbed f150.
Now this is the content we want to see 🔥
I have a 21 single cab with the coyote motor. I can tow a 24 foot boat no problem as well as a car on a car trailer from CT to Chicago no problem other than the breaks definitely took a beating! Got a lil warped.
What are 'breaks'?
Dont ride the brakes, that'll warp any setup.
@@mowcowbell my spelling was never good looking 👀 lol .
What a great subject to explore. Thanks
Your truck looks like a great rig, the only negative I see is the air dam, it is normally the first thing that gets damaged in tight spots!!!
He lost me when he said 2.7 we want the 5.0
You did an awesome job Tyler
Jeez, I thought my '98 Lariat regular cab was high at 29k sticker. Was looking for 4wd ext cab Ranger, but salesman showed me a pair of fully loaded 4wd flareside F-150s they needed to move. Compared to today's trucks, it was SO easy to reach or get in and out of the bed of that thing.
All the takuaches gonna love this vid
What I would really like to know Is if base f150 4x4 without lsd or lockers comes with AWD besides transfer case just like a Ram, Is it normal which manufacturer used to be doing or is it something new now?
Used to take my 2001 off road everyday lol. Beat the bricks off that truck.
Sweet truck Tyler.
That's one good looking truck. Single cab and x-cab are the best looking ones
//x-cab hilux owner
That’s the one a wanted! But couldn’t find one so went with a 2022 trd off-road access cab my first Toyota
Great truck!! Love single Cabs! Cuddos to this guy I have a new 23' Tremor and she's not seeing anything other than pavement for awhile!
Classic Truck: short bed, regular cab, 4x4. Great truck!
I would have had to go ahead and get the 5.0 or get a base Super Duty reg cab 6.8 or 7.3. The problem is that for $50k these days...what even base trucks that used to cost half to $30k 3-5 years ago on sale...I could pick up a couple OBS '67-'97 Trucks and build them exactly how I want them with 351w based stroker and ZF-5 manuals and have something really worth hucking through the mud of off a dune or tow or haul and have style.
That’s pretty much the same set up I have on my 08 STX regular cab. I bought some factory Raptor wheels & Nitto Recon Grapplers that measure 34” tall. I’ve been trying to build a new F150 with the same configuration on Ford’s website, and he’s right. His configuration is hard to come by. You can build an XL & add the high appearance package, 103A. It would look just like his XLT on the exterior including the wheels & factory tint, except no chrome grille, and the 5.0 liter V8 is the only engine option. MSRP for that configuration was $45,605.
The background music makes it. Lol. Great video
I think this owner needs his own episode. I think he was limited in his personality by having the host there. And the host is not the greatest. He just makes it feel awkward the whole time watching. He doesn't need the Locker as must as he was told. That course is almost effortless for that truck. Well Fitted!
As for the truck, I love it. My work rig is a 21 F150 Long box, with the 5.0L and its amazing, even at the just under 8000lb I run full load. All the drive modes make everything super easy when needed.
He did a good job of handling his truck
I got the same truck with everything option checked off including fx4 but I got the V8 Coyote motor. I went the the lowered Supercharged route just for in town driving. If I want to go off-road I have my lifted first gen Dodge cummins for that.
Sick truck, love the specs on it
That is a nice looking and well spec’d truck 😍
Interested in more on the Ford performance lift/shocks he added, any link?
I own an FJ that I absolutely adore but I really want a truck like this!
What a nice dude. Enjoy your truck!
Love a RCSB truck. You get the size of a full size, but short wheel base. I'd love to do an overland build on this platform.
We need a Taming Tumbleweed update!
Bring David back to fix up and widen the coarse.
so you want them to pave the course ? i thought it was an off road course ?
@@rodgood Don't you love people like this that don't get the point? 😂 There is already the easy CUV portion. Why would TFL need 2 easy courses? FFS. 🙄🤬
What a sweet freaking truck! I love it!
Super similar to my 2018, except mine's an extended cab. Silver XLT 2.7 with Bilstein 6112s but I run 33" KO2s.
I love regular cabs.
Nice truck. Is solid front axle an option for the basic truck?
With the 2.7, I'll bet this smaller truck really scoots. I've seen many tests, including here on TFL, that shows the 2.7 being quicker than the 3.5. I seem to recall, though, that the 3.5 can be more more heavily performance tuned.
They are pretty close 0-60. More than that or with a load the 3.5 pulls away. And the 2.7 is limited in payload and towing. For me though, the 2.7 has been ideal. Better economy than most midsize trucks with the space and comfort of a full size. Significantly better performance, average 4.5 MPG better economy, and nearly identical capability compared to my previous 5.4 V8.
The v8 is the only way bro. Throw a turbo on that for once if you want it i personally oerfer more reliability and less plastic
My 2015 F150 4x4 Single cab has never had to be pulled out, but it has pulled adozens of vehickes from ditches and lakes.
What a capable truck w/ 35s!
Great video🎉
Awesome truck! I love it
I had a 2016 F150 in this configuration with the Coyote 5.0L was a great truck.
I used a 2020 diesel 3/4 ton pick up and the back locking differential was electronic. The traction control was electronic. If wheel spin occur all the light in the dash went on and the pick up loose all is traction control.