New Desert Tech MDR .308 Bullpup
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- It's been a long wait, but the Desert Tech MDR bullpup rifle is now in production and shipping to their new owners and dealers. The MDR, or Micro Dynamic Rifle, is a multicaliber bullpup currently available in .308, .300BLK and 5.56mm. I take the DT MDR out to the range for the first time to get a feel for how it shoots.
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That case ejection is crazy to me. So cool. Thanks for the private preview!
CA still complaining about boxes? :)
If a box makes you want to cut yourself then you have much bigger problems in your life than a box.
I was hoping :)
I like the ejection idea for shoulder transfers but I am not sure if I would trust that little port not to get clogged in dirty battlefield conditions , they probably figured that and tested it who knows yet.
Armatis Reviews
Reminds me of KORD heavy machine gun
"The ports are covered by these ejection port covers"
-MAC, 2017
This seems to be very well designed from an engineering standpoint and for those in the market for a bullpup style rifle, a solid contender.
40 minutes have never gone by faster. This is the gun I need to get for sure.
That dust cover opening and shell coming out in slowmo at 3:15 is probably the cutest thing I've ever seen in a gun vid. Thanks for that, MAC!
LOL, I'm glad you like the cuteness of the forward ejection. :)
Dave Coil it made me have to poo
It was all like "I'm FREEE!"
yeah and hot brass hitting your right hand as you sweep right will be equally cute
He said it didnt hurt when he fired left shoulder tho...is the case hot still?
Great Video!! I've been waiting for this rifle for years, any chance you are going to do a head to head comparison with the x95? I would love to see that.
Yeah I'd like to see a comparison since the X95 has been shown to have shoddy accuracy.
i've seen the videos about shoddy accuracy but i did not experience the same problems on the X95 my brother owns
i fired a few hundred rounds through it by this point
its a 2 MOA rifle , most bullpups are 2 MOA
if you take that into consideration it shoots as expected
I don't care if bullpups are less accurate, I will adapt like all good shooters do. What I want a bullpup for it does it very well than standard MBR setup.
Shouldn't he compare it too the Tavor 7 ?? , both bull pups and both in 7.62x51 that way.
@@gld1010 and you want it for what reason?
Wow, what an interesting new idea. I love the simplicity behind a complex problem. Such a great elegant solution. I hope it shoots as good as it looks.
That first slowmo shell ejection looks like a submarine firing torpedoes. Cool af
26:00 Splinter Cell is the only reason I want that rifle.
Samurai_Aldo --- real G's didn't use the rifle in SC
Video games are for children
It looks like a toy tbh
Samurai_Aldo tom Clancy's the division is mine.
The FN 2000 is just wonderfully accurate. I had the pleasure of firing one and could make pop cans dance at 75 yards even firing quickly. I can do that with an AR as well it was just so effortless and inexplicably more fun.
Sam Fisher "...Goody..."
Great review.
It would be nice to see the MDR tested with sub-sonic .308 at each gas setting, suppressor on and off.
Review a long time coming! Glad you finally got to do this one, and thanks for sharing it.
Good review, nice depth, nice comparison too. Looking forward to seeing more on accuracy and how the OSS muffler works out.
Epic! I don't get excited over new guns that much anymore, it's nice to see something unique!
Love it. A suggestion to the manufacturer would be to offer a 20 or 22"-barrel version/option/upgrade for the .308. Its so short already, no need to cripple the 308 with a 16" barrel. It looks well designed!
David Taylor make it DMR yes
The whole point of this rifle is to be as short as possible. Why slap a long barrel on it then?
@@Jebotito the point is to be as short as possible and effective. The 20" mdrx with the longer handguard and suppressor becomes a full mdr, but saves you from having a super length rifle
@@xtremekill99 MDR and MDRX are the same rifles. The X is just the "generation 2" of the rifle
"I know mag dumps are a waste of money....but the voices in my head....they made me do it!"
Why? Is hitting a piece of steel or repeatedly putting holes in a piece of paper somehow not a waste of money? lol That's the beauty of owning your own firearm; operate it however makes you happy (as long as you're being safe of course)! cheers.
Ozark Bear Arms 🤤
Thank for this review MAC, very well done. Can't wait to see your accuracy eval!
One of the best reviews I've seen yet. Thanks for the full walk through.
Was hoping to see a RFB on here as one of the comparisons. While i been waiting on the MDR i brought a RFB and I have to say that at first i thought I wasted my money cause I kept having feeding issues. Once i started playing with the gas setting and got it set correctly, no more issues. Also found it suppresses well and is not finicky on ammo. MDR is definitely still on the list but with my good luck with the RFB, who knows. Will be following this rifle to see what other people have to say about it.
Thumbs up for proper pronunciation of "ambidextrous." There's only like 4 RUclips gun videos that pronounce this word properly.
opmike343 Is this the newest "craze" or "buzzword" used to determine if someone knows what they're talking about or something? These people have been miss pronouncing it for literal years and now all of a sudden I see people bitching about it every where.
who cares noob
lol. I've noticed the same thing. every time I hear someone pronounce it, "ambidextrious" it just rubs me the wrong way for some reason. like when people say, "all the sudden" instead of, "all of a sudden".
Amen to that. Its always Ambi-dex-tree-ous instead of just Ambi-dex-trous. I don't understand why they want to add almost a whole extra syllable.
It bothers me too but then again, my entire world is sound so not really surprising. That said, the worst I've heard was "Mossenberg' and its actually quite common with a certain group of people.
Very nice review. I can't wait for mine to show up. Thank you for taking the time with this and all of your videos.
Super cool. I like that ejection setup and it seems like the most practical .308 "fighting rifle" I've seen.
You should do a part two where you show the accuracy of the weapon and how to convert calibers
Yawen & Stuff Precisely. That would be awesome to see a more matured review after having used the rifle for a long time.
Love the long videos i could watch this stuff all night thanks mac
I'm glad you guys like the longer format. I was worried you wouldn't.
We like the new design of the Desert Tech MDR, it's ejector is a logical function and may very well prevent unnecessary wear. Great review...thanks!
Very cool! I appreciated the detailed look at the MDR & seeing how the ejection process works.
This was a great review. But i can't wait for the review MAC does with his own Desert Tech MDR.
Bought one. Sending it back.
They must have paid attention to the T&E model. The one they sent me, after having my money for a year and a half, is a DANGEROUS PIECE OF JUNK. Out of the box the trigger wobbled from side to side and had a sticky pull, and the rail section attached to the barrel sat higher than the receiver rail. I fired 120 rounds of XM80C. 2 double feeds, 4 light strikes, consistent failures to eject (at least 12x brass getting stuck in the special ejection port). It was also a pain in the ass to charge because the bolt would only close half way. But the worse part is that THE REAR TAKE DOWN PIN WALKED OUT WHILE I WAS SHOOTING. Luckily I caught it before potentially getting injured. Unfortunately Desert Tech is not being very responsive to my emails. I posted this because people should know before they buy.
Any update?
That's why I usually wait for the second or third model to come out I hear you that's got to be frustrating sorry to hear that man
@@300blk8 agreed.. it's like cars - always avoid 1st year new models and 'all new' redesigns.
Hamato, either you're trolling or that really sux
How much $? F it and might as well say everything
41 minutes?! Oh hell yeah! A deep dive into an interesting new product. Can't wait to watch.
MDR is finally here! Now for all I need is a second job. Worth it.
Thanks MAC
That mini dust cover just cracks me up.
I just watched a video of this rifle from InRangeTV and Forgotten Weapons and they had a ton of issues getting it to extract and feed properly. The one they had also had 6 different gas settings and they said it has a really high recoil in .308. I was also a video from yesterday.
Lol, I just watched that last night. The did a follow up video to that. I think this is the resulting upgraded version.
I really love the innovation Desert Tech put into this rifle. I'm looking forward to accuracy testing.
Excellent review, very informative. I have had a long standing interest with the MDR. Thank you.
Desert Tech MDR vs Lithgow Arms F90 Atrax.
Yet another bullpup we are all waiting for arrival here in the States.
Keep up the good work my friend.
I wish I could get my hands on the F90. I haven't heard anything out of them in a while.
I've waited long for this day :^)
That ejection is crazy! This will definitely be a movie gun.
Excellent video work. So clear, it's like I was right there.
Bullpups and pistol braces are legal, but a 15.9" barrel = FELONY...Gotta love our silly gun laws
It's more about sneaking the firearm into sensitive areas. A sawed-off weapon can mount a folding/telescoping stock, you (as easily) can't conceal a bullpup. But yeah, I agree that the entire gun law system could get overhauled. Right now we have the worst of both worlds.
APB 28-- You are absolutely right. It's the government; it doesn't have to make sense.... it just has to be enforced by machine-gun toting "agents".....
@@unmercifullordbusiness7756 Check german gun laws..or australian gunlaws.
most US states are in heaven.
Try being in Canada, aholes in power classified the MDR as prohibited meaning gfl ever getting one.
@@Waldherz German gun laws were outlined in the treaty of Versailles so yeah its fucking shitty
You know times are tough when Tim has to turn off his MRO to save his batteries. This is why I support Patreon! No man should have to turn off his MRO! Another great video MAC team. I enjoyed the bullpup comparisons, I haven't had to clear a malfunction on my RDB yet, but I never even thought of how much of a pain it would be if I had to get my "chubby digits" in the chamber.
CammCamm almost bought one and decided to just wait till desert tech released this. This platform completely dominates the RFB and RDB. You can get caliber conversions for this gun.
Liam Winter if caliber conversion is the only thing it has over the keltec line, especially when each kit costs as much as a new Keltec rifle, while the rifle itself cost 3x as much. I don't know about beating anything hands down let's wait for them to actually hit the main stream and see if this 1moa+ @ 60 yards accuracy is truly what they are leaving the factory with or if it's just from Tim's review sample alone.
Swole Sargero mro battery lives matter.
Swole Sarge well you could watch desert tech's torture video :) and ooh boy... it doesn't choke.
Excellent in depth review. You guys rock as always. Unfortunately, a little out of my price range right now.
My Socom 16 ejects brass forward as well. First time I saw that, I thought how polite. Cool gun.
I've always wondered why manufacturers of bulpups never tried to make a trigger like this. That bar pulling instead of pushing makes so more more sense as far as leverage is concerned. That's why most bulpup triggers suck ass, it takes so much extra effort pushing a long bar on to something than it does using that same bar to pull on something. Good on desert tech for the innovation they've brought to this select market, even if it took like 5 years of the gun market waiting impatiently
DyingIsMyLatestFashion I shoot a double action revolver all the time. Triggers are important. I can deal with a bad trigger, but most bulpups are abysmal. I don't normally bitch about triggers myself, I shoot a stock trigger in my AR15 constantly and people call those shit. I think you're projecting a bit.
DyingIsMyLatestFashion For as much as bullpup rifles cost, it's sad that they have shit triggers when I can build a AR for much cheaper and with a much better trigger.
it has to do with mud testing/reliability. push trigger bars tend to fail faster than pull in mud/sand tests, which is why you find pull bars in bullpups and handguns like the makarov. however it seems the designers have made a trade off to add weight and complexity to close off the design in order to get a better trigger pull with a push bar design. i am curious how it will function in a mud test myself - i hope Inrangetv gets to do it soon.
Stevean Bozek I
IWI has a pulling trigger bar in the Tavor.
This rifle looks to be worth it's cost. Great review, Tim.
Your grunt proof demonstration is awesome
I LOVE this rifle, it's so configurable, unique and FULLY ambi! I hope they're true to their word of providing barrels for those of us who'd like to be able to swap.
Very nice! I'm interested to see how the small rifle (5.56 and 300blk) conversions work out. It's an interesting rifle to say the least.
Splinter cell reference: This guy just became one hundred percent cooler to me
Thanks for the very thorough and informative review. We've been waiting a few years for that but it's good that Desert Tech took their time and got it right. The multi-caliber is interesting but on the downside it does tend to make a 223 bullpup rather heavy when it also must function properly with 308.
Kudos to Desert Tech for the innovative method of ejection. I like the way they maintain control of the piece of brass at all times. That's something that industrial engineers try to do when designing Industrial systems. It makes for a very reliable system.
So cool seeing them extract forward in slow motion
The DT. MDR is nice it looks like a solid bullpup... But I still like the size and look of the kel-tec RDB better, the price is also alot nicer. But a well made 308 bullpup would be awsome.
The best firearms channel on RUclips by far!!!
Thank you. :)
N'th DEGREE AERIAL PERSPECTIVES I agree. MAC is the only one I get excited for when I get a new video notification. Always quality content
Great look, first video I've seen on it and I feel like I know how it works. Great job MAC
4 years of waiting is finally over. Yes, Yes! OH GOD YESSSSSSSS!!!
You should ask Desert Tech if you can put it through the gauntlet and compare it to the Tavor
shaun22sd yeah that'd be nice. But you can also watch their own torture test. It's like the tavor on steroids
I have seen no test of the MDR were they put the MDR in mud dirt or water. anything else short of that isn't a torture test.
Honestly, any torture test video made by the manufacture has to be taken with a shitload of salt. They are actively trying to sell it to people, they can't do that if they show it choking on dirt and mud.
hence why I wanted to see MAC do the test I trust him to be unbiased
40 minutes? What is this, a Nutnfancy review?
There's a lot to cover. I know some folks have very short attention spans. For those who suffer from a short attention span, I suggest breaking your viewing time up into chunks. Watch for 5 minutes, play with your fidget spinner for 10 minutes, watch an another 5 minutes, play with your fidget spinner for another 10 minutes. Repeat until the video is watched. :D
can i just lick windows instead XD
I just make sure I have a large box of crayons to eat in case I get hungry while watching...
He shoots the gun too much to be a Nutn vid.
No acronyms and isn't playing dress up in a desert
Very cool design! Looks like a ton of R&D went into this rifle. Very much wanting to pick one up.
Looks very well thought out. I like it! Thanks for the review.
Looks pretty sweet. My only concern is fixing malfunctions as you said. I'll be interested to see how it does when you get yours in to test
Mrgunsngear Channel I'm saying...do you have to take that port cover off nd shit...oh yeah and the first close up shot is with the port cover off so I was like wtf. Pretty cool how you could change ejection sides with or w/o that special forward eject cover tho
More if a gimmick, left the ejection port cover off as side eject is fine. Scissor action needs to be more substantial to properly push into chute to eject.
Still needs design tweaks
"Little Pin, Big Hole, no Fitty"
Your Marine is showing, Tim
10:06
I couldn't tell you why, but it is super satisfying to watch you tap that round out
A big thumb up from Brazil for you! This rifle looks pretty nice.
As a US developed/built platform, I hope this rifle does well. I've had some interest since it was announced, but have since owned a Tavor, and now a X95. The ejection system is relatively complex, and complexity works against reliability, in general. Glad DT has built at least one that runs. Time will tell...
MAC, when you get one in stock can you put some rounds on paper so we can check out the accuracy? One of the main complaints folks have about the x95 is the accuracy. I'm curious to see how the MDR does in that area. Thanks
Loved the music, man. And that rifle is a freakin dream. You're starting to get a new fan.
This has got to be the Cadillac of .308 Bullpup's. I love the symmetry. Great rifle!
Thumbs up just for the Splinter Cell reference.
I really like my RDB. I'm a lefty so I appreciate the rear ejection. Also leaks the least amount of gas when suppressed. The MDR is turning me on too, so I wonder if there is a way to add a thin gasket to the port covers? Hmmm....
Yes, you can. Some tavor users put gaskets and even teflon tape around the left-side ejection port cover. I see no reason that you couldn't do the same thing to the MDR.
The way it ejects spent cases is awesome!
WOW! Great idea and design! "BULLPUPS FOREVER"!!! YAAAAA!!! Thanks, take care, "God Bless", sincerely Randy.
I've avoided this vid forever because I know I want one and can't afford it.
So weird when that last empty case doesn't come out...
WOW!!! I want one in a 20 inch barrel package with thirty round mags...YIPEEE!!! Desert Tech Rocks!!!
OMG!!!! It's about fricken time!! I also been waiting for YEARS....
Im sold! Ive been looking for cheaper and smaller SCAR alternative.
Tim, I love the channel and liked the longer vid. I just get so angry watching your video's since I cannot own a rifle like this in Cuomostan (NY State).
I couldn't live in a ban state. It would drive me nuts.
Move. I did & my life is way better.
We need to start a releaf organization for NY and CA residents. The sad fact is that in both states, many folks in the northern parts are actually pro-gun and 2nd. Its the south that drags everyone down.
The ejection is so simple it's a wonder no one has done it before (to my knowledge). MDR is definitely on the must have list.
What an awesome rifle, I saw a review on another channel and it was shooting less than a minute @ 100 yards, wish I could afford one.
RIP RFB. Hello MDR
The MDR is military quality based on my limited experience. The RFB is fun and mine runs fine, but in terms of the quality of materials used, the robust design and the final fit and finish, the MDR is superior.
The firing pin of my RFB broken after 500 shoots.... and i have a lot of malfunction, not loading a bullet, the empty case didn't eject, out of batterie, blocked charging handle, fire selection blocked (with a loaded bullet and the gun have shoot by itself, once i have placed it on a table...)
I love the look of the gun but i wil no one advise to buy a KEL-TEC RFB!
sorry for my bad english
PS: good video!
I appreciate the reply Tim! Love your videos as I've been here along time. I hear that a lot about Kel-Tec's material. Glad to hear it coming straight from you as well, I appreciate it. I am Canadian and I am looking into purchasing an RFB. Just something about a .308 Bullpup that I seem to be attracted to. Chances are even if the MDR gets approved for us Great White Northerner's, I won't have the money to pick one up so I may have to settle for the RFB. Anyway, thank you again man I enjoyed all 42 minutes of this video.
ransisua Not for the US military, has no forward assist.
My rfb was rip the minute I bought it, such a mistake
Hopefully this won't be the second coming of the ACR.
Kennard Lang I don't think this rifle will be nearly as popular as the ACR, pretty cool thoufh
Kennard Lang
I would think so... it's asking a lot for a small company.
If Bushmaster/Remington couldn't commit...
Time will tell.
ACR still has a lot of support. MDR was inspired by the ACR.
Remington didn't design new caliber versions in parallel, unlike DT. They may have released the 308 first, but they designed the 5.56 along side it throughout.
Remington actually did but then the AR-15 rush came & the big business higher ups wanted all production switched to AR15. Then, the moved their factory across the country while still keeping up demand of the AR-15 rush. Once that was caught up, they setup their tooling & started R&D again. It's still ashamed they didn't make it all happen at once but they are doing a lot this year on barrel assemblies. Calibers are in the works.
I really like this rifle. It looks nice and a lot of thought has gone into it's design
Cannot wait for your next review of this rifle!
I wonder what that would look like with a 26 inch barrel in 308 with a longer hand guard.
Dumb. That's how it would look
I love you Mac. Been readying my popcorn for this video for a long time. Thank you for your great effort and time!
Thanks for watching.
Wow, that ejection system is so cool
I bought the FN and the Ruger 5.7 because of Splinter Cell, lol. Keep up the great work! Been to Copper Custom, great customer service! 👍👍👍I’m only 45 minutes away.
41 minutes!!! How do you expect me to watch this while my boss isn't looking??????
Cool rifle though.
A Stang hahah
Become the boss. Then you can close the door and put a "meeting" on your calendar.
I wasn't trying to criticize the MDR or even say it should be cheaper, I'm sure it's worth every penny. I was just trying to point out there is hole in the market because all the bullpups that I know of are in the $1,700 to $2,500 range. It would be nice to have more options for thouse who love the bullpup but can't quite afford the price. If you love over under shotguns the market doesn't only make available the $10,000 beretta, there is also the $600 stoger. I wasn't trying to start some kind of berating class warfare debate.
The Kel-Tec RDB can be had for less than 1,000$.
Honestly, that issue is a non-issue in this day and age. There are many superior options in AR pattern mags, that if something as trivial as aluminum mags not fitting is a deal breaker, just use different mags. The shear chance of needing a SHTF gun is irrevocably minor, unless you live in a city prone to natural disasters.
While you are right about the bullpup price, there are some that are battle proven, and this rifle is not, yet costs just as much.
With a video this long I was expecting a POU or a desert run down. Good stuff.
I will admit seeing that spent brass hit your wrist did bring back memories of the Kel Tec KSG.
It would be the greatest if you could do a maxim 9 torture test
IT CAN POOP BRASS BUT CAN IT POOP STEEL
FromPlsNerf this is a big question I have myself.
I LOVE THE WAY IT POOPS OUT THOSE CASINGS.
This rifle is a work of genius. The F2000 is one of my dream rifles as well
I wonder why all bullpups have a msrp of $1700 and up, is it just because of the cool mystic of that style of gun. Did manufacturers think hey the aug was that expensive the precedent has Been set so all bullpups are going to be expensive. It would be nice to have a bullpups that was around $1000 because nothing says I'm a space pimp from the future and I'm here to party like a bullpup
Poet WP Lack of a large scale purchase to take the sting out of prototyping and development. In the case of other pups you have cost to import a lot of the components along with the cost of setting up and doing business in the US. Other countries also have high tax rates applied to the value of certain goods. Finally it is ok for companies to make a profit, even a healthy profit. The market will ultimately prevail in determining the value.
Nicholas Young god dang right...thank you for the future of weapons technology BTW
KSG is under $1k
Tavor is under $1400
PS90 (non tri rail) I got for $1050
RDB is right around $1k
RFB is a little more than $1k
Nicholas Young
There is nothing *truly* innovative about the MDR...
Or any firearms in the past 50 years period. Most manufacturers change the shape, add their coatings, tweak a few things, reduce weight, try to tighten groups but nothing is just a huge leap forward.
For example... if you compare the firearms industry (what small arms are capable of doing) from the 50's
Vs the computer industry from the 50's
Automobile industry from the 50's
Mobile communications from the 50's
Aerospace from the 50's
Compared to those... small arms have not don't shit!
Nicholas Young
Disagree all you want... doesn't mean I'm wrong.
Take a 75 year old design from a firearm... it's still relevant today.
Take a 75 year old design of a computer is it relevant?
A 75 year old design of a cell phone... 🤔wonder where you can find one of those...
You pull out a cell phone that's 10 years old today... it probably wouldn't be able to connect to the bandwidths phones are running on now.
Take a 100 year old design from an aircraft and match it up to something today.
Take a 75, 50, 25, 15, 10 year old gun design... *VERY LITTLE* has changed.
Now maybe from flint lock, to pump/lever action, to revolver, to repeating there are steps of innovation... but that's over 300+ years!!!!!
First of each types of firearms are innovative... but the MDR is not.
It's a new shell with a design and function that has been used over and over.
It literally does nothing that has not been done before (that's a relevant improvement).
The bottom line still is... firearms are a slow changing field compared to agriculture, medical, technology, aerospace, logistics, & many many more. That's the undeniable truth.
What are your thoughts on that empty casing remaining in the rifle after the last round is spent? Is it a subject of concern? Or just a quirk of the gun to get used to?
I see no issue with it, at least not yet.
Was about to ask the same question.
Surely its no big deal. To clear it you just run the bolt a second time.
Im in love. SAVING UP FOR ONE.
Thanks MAC!
Changing the ejection side is sick!
#makesplintercellgreatagain
#bringbackironsides
Red Reaper Damn right PALAYA
chaos theory was the last real splinter cell game.
This thing really reminds me of the BR55 from Halo.
DUDE!!! I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING! lol. Imagine putting a carrying handle and a small optic on top of it. That'd be pretty sick.
I always thought the Halo Battle Rifle was based on the SAR-21. They even say it's made in Singapore.
I have been looking for a rifle like this for SOO long.
Great vid as usual! I'm looking forward to a follow-up. I find this rifle very interesting, and I'd love to see how it does with that oss can and through a mud test... Maybe some steel case testing too?? Anyway, thanks for all the info you put out, it's so helpful!