DeserTech 7.62mm MDR Teardown

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    The DeserTech MDR ("Micro Dynamic Rifle") has been in the works for several years now, after being initially announced at SHOT Show in 2014, if I recall correctly. While it was probably prematurely unveiled, the rifle as it stands today looks to be remarkably well designed. It is one thing to design a concept that sounds attractive (fully ambidextrous bullpup rifle convertible between 7.62x51mm and 5.56x45mm), but it is a whole other thing to actually develop a mechanical design that actually works. And it is yet more notable to make that system elegantly simple and to actually transition from handmade prototypes to successful production line manufacture. DesertTech appears to have cleared all those hurdles...
    At the heart of the rifle is a rotating bolt locking system and a short stroke gas system. These are both very well understood systems - DesertTech has chosen to use proven ideas here instead of getting "innovative". The most interesting mechanical element is undoubtedly the ejection system, which can be swapped to eject from either side of the rifle but can actually be used from either shoulder regardless because it ejects cases directly forward. The system uses a pair of arms that push an empty case (or live round) laterally off the side of the bolt face and into a holding clip. A lug on the side of the bolt engages those arms on its rearward stroke, and a matching lug on the opposite side pushes the case forward and out of the rifle on the bolt's forward stroke. While this system sounds complex, the parts appear to my eye to have gone through a lot of testing and revision, as they look pretty simple and sturdy - a refined implementation of an unorthodox idea.
    The controls are all ambidextrous, with non-reciprocating bolt handles, safety selector, and magazine release on both sides. A secondary magazine release is located on the front of the magazine well to allow a positive magazine removal, and this catch is stiff enough to not have problems with accidental release like some other bullpup designs. The weakest point of the rifle as I see it is the trigger, with is creepy and heavier than I would have expected. The trigger group is completely modular, however, and I would expect to see aftermarket replacement triggers appear on the secondary market before too long.
    The barrel can be removed easily with a hex wrench, and DeserTech is producing a 5.56mm conversion kit. This will involve replacing the bolt, barrel, and ejection panel and installing a magazine well insert for the smaller magazine (the 5.56mm version will use AR pattern standard mags). The upper and lower receiver assemblies are completely interchangeable between calibers. For those wishing to use a suppressor, the gas system is adjustable, with 3 positions including one for suppressed use.
    The rifle ships with a micro red dot optic mounted in lieu of iron sights. It is mounted to a single unit section of Picatinny rail integral to the gas block, meaning that it will retain zero when the barrel is removed. For those preferring other sights, the top of the receiver has a length of rail for attaching whatever you like. The handguard also has a top rail, but I would not consider it to be solidly fixed enough to retain zero on an optic. The handguard also has side and bottom MLok slots for bipods and other accessories. The handguard is not connected to the barrel, so bipods on it are effectively free floated.

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  • @koshersalt3233
    @koshersalt3233 3 года назад +2897

    MDR: Micro Dynamic Rifle
    Brain: Mesignated Darksman Rifle

  • @John.VanSwearingen
    @John.VanSwearingen 5 лет назад +1067

    The old InRange/Forgotten Weapons Double Feature Razzle Dazzle

    • @samholdsworth3957
      @samholdsworth3957 5 лет назад +6

      DING DONG!

    • @alexanderm3504
      @alexanderm3504 5 лет назад +3

      Youuuuu son of a bitchhhh

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 5 лет назад +12

      I shall not be satisfied that this weapon is worthy until it is chambered in .45 ACP, can make 1 pot of coffee per minute, and has defeated an ACR, SCAR, M107, and a Mosin in the Pugil Stick Pit without scuffing the logo.

    • @justinofboulder
      @justinofboulder 5 лет назад

      YES!!

    • @Pitchlock8251
      @Pitchlock8251 5 лет назад

      Given the InRange video, This seems more like foreshadowing

  • @SandblastedSkln
    @SandblastedSkln 4 года назад +10

    Rifle like this make you truly appreciate beautiful simplicity of the the AR and AK.

  • @sadaway4301
    @sadaway4301 3 года назад +2

    That ejector is some wizard shit

  • @jasperlilienfeld505
    @jasperlilienfeld505 3 года назад +3

    Would have been neat having this on the L85A2 I used.
    I was doing a field experience and the person next to me was a bunched up. When they did their rapid fire drill they spewed casing straight into my face and down my shirt.

  • @ringowunderlich2241
    @ringowunderlich2241 5 лет назад +2

    The "Star-Key"-screw is called Torx, developed by Camcar Textron ;)

  • @stephenkoss2763
    @stephenkoss2763 5 лет назад

    I got to check one of these out a few years ago at a gun show in salt lake, which is where they’re based

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
    @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 5 лет назад +1

    The section of pic rail attached to the barrel is pretty cool, just wish it was a bit bigger. The ejection system is pretty dope too.

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 5 лет назад

      @@ControversialOpinion I'm kinda concerned about that too, I wonder what would happen if it did break at a bad time, could you remove the two side plates and just let the empties fall out or are you screwed? I'd want to know for sure that it could still function in that case before I would consider buying one.

  • @nolanwood99
    @nolanwood99 5 лет назад

    It’s been a good while since a newer rifle has actually seemed good to me. Good on those guys for making this.

  • @MikMoen
    @MikMoen 5 лет назад

    Bullpups have always been so much more captivating to me.

  • @highlandoutsider
    @highlandoutsider 5 лет назад

    Congratulations DeserTech, from what I can tell, you've won bullpups.
    Side note, that extraction system made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :)

    • @nutz4gunz457
      @nutz4gunz457 5 лет назад

      Highland Outsider Watch the Inrange tv video. It jams on the second shot because of its ejection system.

    • @highlandoutsider
      @highlandoutsider 5 лет назад

      @@nutz4gunz457 yeah went there next and was heart broken :'(

  • @faeembrugh
    @faeembrugh 5 лет назад

    7.62 seems to be making a comeback these days.

  • @cacheman
    @cacheman 5 лет назад

    00:52 Oh boy... future Ian is shaking his head.

  • @jimkoonce6574
    @jimkoonce6574 5 лет назад +5

    As a fellow lefty, I fnd most bullpup designs useless. This one looks very well thought out!

    • @magnanimus9692
      @magnanimus9692 5 лет назад

      Hear hear!

    • @sean7456
      @sean7456 5 лет назад

      *hasn't watched the InRange video yet*

    • @magnanimus9692
      @magnanimus9692 5 лет назад

      We're talking ergos here, not reliability. The 556 version might remedy the issues InRangeTv presented. Time will tell.

    • @manasjena949
      @manasjena949 5 лет назад

      Have u seen arx 100 /160 rifle both side ejection system ? If they can design bullpup with thay you still have chance to get best one

  • @TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou
    @TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou 4 года назад

    Id never be able to get this back together...

  • @GunsGuy1990
    @GunsGuy1990 5 лет назад

    For me, this is one of two most innovatory bullpup rifles that emerged in recent times. Next one is Croatian VHS-2.

  • @hristo.bogdanov
    @hristo.bogdanov 5 лет назад +1

    I was waiting for this like forever.

  • @MarkDavidKnight
    @MarkDavidKnight 4 года назад

    It is a beautiful bullpup rifle

  • @Merkaba954
    @Merkaba954 5 лет назад

    That's a pretty interesting ejection mechanism. I want one of these! I shot left handed and bullpups can suck for us LHSs

  • @mnk9073
    @mnk9073 5 лет назад

    All those nooks, crannies, holes and tiny parts... The soldier in me prays this thing never becomes a service rifle.

  • @BuffRANGE
    @BuffRANGE 5 лет назад

    Did you have any trouble removing the upper from the lower after removing the retaining pins? The sample I have doesn't want to separate the Upper/Lower at the rear by the butt pad.

  • @onsesejoo2605
    @onsesejoo2605 5 лет назад

    9:15 Turkish army has adapted a new full power 308 battle rifle MPT 76.
    Looks bit complicated to field strip with all those screws.

  • @culturalliberator9425
    @culturalliberator9425 3 года назад

    They should call it NMDR for No Maintenance for Dessert Rifle.

  • @Skeptical_Numbat
    @Skeptical_Numbat 4 года назад

    Extremely modular & very sophisticated. An impressive piece of high-tech weapons machinery, which has solved many of the problems with the bullpup design. It even has potential for making upgrades integrated into the design, which is truly remarkable & shows the excellent level of thought which has gone into the development of this weapon.

  • @MadraktheRed
    @MadraktheRed 5 лет назад

    'I'm assuming it is (reliable)' oh, poor past Ian...

  • @mironinopetr6982
    @mironinopetr6982 3 года назад

    I had one of these in the division, it was ridiculous for some reason, like it's not automatic, but it would fire basically as fast as you can click

  • @commanderbastard1993
    @commanderbastard1993 4 года назад

    Damn, I thought it was the real version of the UAR. Man, I love my UAR. It would probably make a good platform for an actual battle rifle.

  • @McDouggal
    @McDouggal 4 года назад

    It's not as bad as people are saying, there's only 9 pins and screws that need to be taken out and moved in a precise order to completely field strip the gun.
    Yes, this is sarcasm.

  • @Genubath1
    @Genubath1 4 года назад

    It's a shame that the video where you shoot it is unavailable

  • @thelongslowgoodbye
    @thelongslowgoodbye 5 лет назад

    This is basically an American copy of the Lithgow F90.

  • @user-pq4by2rq9y
    @user-pq4by2rq9y 4 года назад

    They should really simplify them and do a version in 556 instead of a conversion kit

  • @Sniper5875
    @Sniper5875 5 лет назад

    Looks interesting. It seems to be better than tavor already

  • @Kz3andMore
    @Kz3andMore 4 года назад +1

    They just added this one to escape from tarkov, cool

  • @Cursed_Salad403
    @Cursed_Salad403 5 лет назад

    I wouldve said the acronym is Modular Assault Rifle

  • @MrSplic3r
    @MrSplic3r 5 лет назад

    I strongly suspect the recessed slots just above the pistol grip cap are plastic retention tabs, and must be depressed to open it..

    • @jic1
      @jic1 5 лет назад +1

      I think if it was that simple, Ian would have got it open already.

  • @davidatchison9245
    @davidatchison9245 4 года назад

    That’s the most interesting modern rifle I’ve seen in years.

  • @wades623
    @wades623 5 лет назад

    thats pretty awesome id buy one... if money was no object

  • @dcox5555
    @dcox5555 5 лет назад

    I want one!

  • @xnopyt13
    @xnopyt13 4 года назад

    If you only put the lifter panel on will the cases eject sideways reliably?

  • @JMaxwellE
    @JMaxwellE 5 лет назад

    This seems to be a really well thought out rifle

  • @clawrence034
    @clawrence034 5 лет назад

    I keep waiting for Ian to whip out a soldering iron and start melting plastic to tell us its composition and yell about how many Kanuckistani Kopeks it was, and then I remember I'm not watching AVE.

  • @Arientis
    @Arientis 5 лет назад

    Santa if you don't know what size I wear, I wear a Desertech MDR .308 ;)

  • @ivanmkg
    @ivanmkg 2 года назад +2

    So. you need field workshop to clean it.

  • @NATESUCKSATGAMING
    @NATESUCKSATGAMING 5 лет назад

    do the bullets hit your hand though. looks like it goes right by the trigger

  • @mcqueenfanman
    @mcqueenfanman 5 лет назад +1850

    Not only are you shooting bullets at the enemy, you're shooting empty shells at them too.

    • @genetichell
      @genetichell 5 лет назад +361

      To quote Cave Johnson: "Plus, we're shooting the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet, per bullet."

    • @wilemelliott
      @wilemelliott 5 лет назад +32

      Germans have been doing that for years...just look at the ejection pattern of the G3/HK91!

    • @DerplingKing
      @DerplingKing 5 лет назад +31

      That's nothing. The US nearly adopted a rifle that did that in the 20's with the Thompson Rifle. Admittedly, you had to have 2 enemies at 90 degrees to each other, but that's just details!

    • @pollauritsabrahamsenjq1618
      @pollauritsabrahamsenjq1618 5 лет назад +21

      @@DerplingKing tactical maneuvering. It takes practice, but not impossible :-)

    • @jastermereel4946
      @jastermereel4946 5 лет назад +10

      should be a borderlands gun

  • @ramdom_assortment
    @ramdom_assortment 4 года назад +1316

    As yes, the MDR. The Many Dollars Required rifle.

  • @masongstevens
    @masongstevens 5 лет назад +693

    I worked with Desert Tech for my engineering senior project (similar to an internship) designing assembly jigs and instructional 3D assembly animation videos for the MDR. The amount of engineering and R&D that went into that rifle was mind blowing. Its cool to see something I had a part in make an appearance on Forgotten Weapons.

    • @walangchahangyelingden8252
      @walangchahangyelingden8252 3 года назад +15

      That's so cool.

    • @juicecx5160
      @juicecx5160 3 года назад +33

      thank you for assisting in designing one of my favorite weapons in tarkov.

    • @keithstephens1022
      @keithstephens1022 2 года назад +13

      Thank you for assisting in designing one of my favourite weapons in Insurgency Sandstorm

    • @letssuperfuntime
      @letssuperfuntime 2 года назад +8

      Please nerf mdr ergo

    • @Reticuli
      @Reticuli 2 года назад +3

      Thank you for assisting in designing the inspiration for one of my favorite weapons in Arma 3 + ACE... though not including the magical 100 round 7.62 NATO mags that are less than half the weight they should be that you had nothing to do with.

  • @piritskenyer
    @piritskenyer 5 лет назад +1206

    >Basic trained on AK
    >"The rifle comes with a tool for disassembly"
    >Brain: *error*

    • @gabenplznerf1093
      @gabenplznerf1093 4 года назад +80

      I started with airsoft guns so everything short of an AN94 it’s easier. Weird how the “toys” are so much more complex.

    • @24YOA
      @24YOA 4 года назад +104

      @@gabenplznerf1093 Probably the most complex part of a firearm is in the ammo it fires. That's why bullets aren't dirt cheap compared to BBs. For airsoft the most complex part is also the propulsion for the projectile. It's just held inside the gearbox rather than inside a brass tube.

    • @bosknight7837
      @bosknight7837 4 года назад +33

      Holden McKroin most guns are engineered to be as simple as possible. Aside from the obvious need for being sturdy for military use,a firearm also has to survive pretty huge amount of force for a long time compared to something like a BB gun

    • @alephkasai9384
      @alephkasai9384 4 года назад +28

      That and the magazine. The military probably spends most of their budget on magazines and ammo.
      Magazines are also the fulcrum of any modern day gun. If the magazine sucks the whole thing sucks

    • @classifiedad1
      @classifiedad1 4 года назад

      @@24YOA I suppose the cost is linked to the thing that makes the projectile fly. Modern cartridges contain the propellant, where airsoft BBs are powered by the gun.

  • @MrMalicious5
    @MrMalicious5 5 лет назад +1766

    This certainly was a forgotten weapon after they announced it 4 years ago.

    • @praetorxian
      @praetorxian 5 лет назад +85

      Micro Dynamic Marketing (MDM)

    • @Lonewolf6565
      @Lonewolf6565 5 лет назад +70

      Its not forgotten its a boutique gun that's way to expensive even compared to a tavor. Its like the Q fix bolt action. Its expensive for the sake of expensive. Purely a status thing for people with way to much expendable money.

    • @DzheiSilis
      @DzheiSilis 5 лет назад +2

      Like that MHG Sturmgewehr

    • @Lonewolf6565
      @Lonewolf6565 5 лет назад +14

      @@DzheiSilis Except the Hill and Mac Sturmgewehr clones cost less than the MDR.

    • @LUR1FAX
      @LUR1FAX 5 лет назад +1

      @@praetorxian Mom's Demand Money (.org)

  • @johannesdolch
    @johannesdolch 4 года назад +91

    I foresee a cheap television military murder mystery episode made with this and somehow the killer is gonna get rid of all the casings but the one held in the port and that's gonna be his downfall.

    • @SandyAndy90245
      @SandyAndy90245 2 года назад +15

      Hollywood is too lazy to write that into a script.

    • @someweirdguyew9757
      @someweirdguyew9757 2 года назад +5

      @@SandyAndy90245 CSI in its heyday would have happily included it. They regularly built episodes around weird shit from the headlines, or some cool gadget a producer discovered.

  • @G36Ghost
    @G36Ghost 5 лет назад +267

    *Slaps top of MDR receiver*
    "This bad boy can fit THIS many pins in it."

  • @kylebricky6419
    @kylebricky6419 4 года назад +350

    sees 7.62 in the title
    sees tan color
    *CONFUSED AND TERRIFIED TARKOV SCREAMING*

    • @hp_3266
      @hp_3266 3 года назад +56

      The one in tarkov chambered in 7.62 is black, the one in tan is chambered in 5.56

    • @Bvander
      @Bvander 3 года назад +19

      @@hp_3266 thank you for that context lol

    • @walangchahangyelingden8252
      @walangchahangyelingden8252 3 года назад +1

      @@hp_3266 Thank you, dude. I had no context.

    • @china_nr_1_cs712
      @china_nr_1_cs712 3 года назад +1

      And in tarkov its full auto lmao

  • @sbeckett91
    @sbeckett91 5 лет назад +1823

    Desertech designers be like "What if Tavor but more money and more pins?"

    • @makjak111
      @makjak111 5 лет назад +20

      Spot on lol

    • @ANonymous-bh1un
      @ANonymous-bh1un 5 лет назад +198

      According to their Shot Show video on the Desert Tech MDR (and the .308 Tavor), both Ian and Karl found the MDR to be wildly superior to the Tavor - to the point where they tried to arrange rifles so they could do this takedown and shooting review.

    • @elite6321
      @elite6321 5 лет назад +8

      And was also fathered by Magpul and MOE

    • @forconfight2227
      @forconfight2227 5 лет назад +2

      @Bhum Brahmavira Not sure that is a good thing either.

    • @xt6wagon
      @xt6wagon 5 лет назад +25

      vastly less reliable too. Biggest one for me is they reduced the size of the extractor over what *everyone* uses, thus making it rip the rims off cases if *anything * is slightly off. Ejection system needs hand tuning to not suck from several reports, as sharp edges catch the case jamming it up. Gas system was (is?) a mess, using overgassing to try and force stuff to work through high energy.

  • @BSOE3058
    @BSOE3058 5 лет назад +580

    Let's just call it
    "Bullpup SCAR"

    • @Jasper-Holland
      @Jasper-Holland 5 лет назад +59

      Tar-21's bastard brother

    • @misery13666
      @misery13666 5 лет назад +34

      Tavor " 'murica " edition

    • @Seb-Storm
      @Seb-Storm 5 лет назад +7

      I was thinking more of a tacr-h (tavor scar) lol

    • @nicolaiby1846
      @nicolaiby1846 5 лет назад +13

      Except it doesn't work unlike the SCAR. SCAR is quite a capable rifle, mild recoiling for such a light .308 and very reliable. The MDR .308 recoils harshly, is very unreliable and almost as expensive as the SCAR H.

    • @PureCountryof91
      @PureCountryof91 5 лет назад +3

      Funny story. There were 2 or 3 companies working on lowers to convert scars to bull pups since the action is in the upper reciever like an ar180. Hadnt heard if any making it into production however.

  • @matthewkriebel7342
    @matthewkriebel7342 5 лет назад +132

    Design for manufacture is an underrated thing in all industries.

  • @thatdude9096
    @thatdude9096 4 года назад +237

    We need a weapon highly reliable in desert applications where fine grains of sand easily get in the weapon.
    Desert Tech: *Creates one of the most complicated ejection systems ever*

    • @周生生-f1f
      @周生生-f1f 3 года назад +22

      I really like the whole idea of having the mag release accessible by your index finger, but man that reliability looks like a hot mess

    • @georgesheffield1580
      @georgesheffield1580 Год назад

      Same for wet, Muddy, jungle environment.

    • @SunRunn3r
      @SunRunn3r Год назад +6

      Isnt covering the ejection port making it way harder for the elements to affect the rifle?

  • @tryharderpls
    @tryharderpls 4 года назад +452

    Killed a guy on customs with one of these today

    • @drduck3727
      @drduck3727 4 года назад +3

      Found this video becasue I wanted 2 know how it worked after seeing the bolt so far up from the mag in game. lol

    • @drduck3727
      @drduck3727 4 года назад +3

      @@ld1728 well duh they had better ammo and higher firerate

    • @von...
      @von... 4 года назад +8

      killed a guy on customs using a mosin and got one of these off of him today ;)

    • @holzteppichverleger
      @holzteppichverleger 4 года назад

      Nice copy comment from that val video

    • @haekmain3910
      @haekmain3910 3 года назад +2

      He even has the pk-06 on it

  • @Maggydags
    @Maggydags 5 лет назад +222

    Things you cannot field strip: This rifle.

    • @neilhightower2270
      @neilhightower2270 5 лет назад +3

      Standard troops really dont need to field strip a rifle

    • @flyboy89ify
      @flyboy89ify 4 года назад +23

      Note, you don't have to remove the barrel or hang guard first and the pins that do separate the lower and upper do not require the tool, just something to punch them forward.

    • @ab5olut3zero95
      @ab5olut3zero95 3 года назад +34

      @@neilhightower2270 you know that’s precisely who is supposed to field strip any piece of equipment are the regular front line troops, right? Hence the term field strip- to tear down in the field.

    • @philippk819
      @philippk819 3 года назад +1

      @@flyboy89ify Also really wonder why one would think you actually have to remove the handguard and barrel to be able to separate upper and lower ;-))

  • @dp8053
    @dp8053 3 года назад +4

    Seems to me the ejection process is the weak point of the design, just seems like too much to go wrong.

    • @Thecarbonviper
      @Thecarbonviper 2 года назад +2

      As a former owner of the "good" version, the MDRX, you are very correct.

  • @shreks_loins3963
    @shreks_loins3963 5 лет назад +24

    That ejection system is slick, reminds me a lot of old 1900's era machine guns because of the mechanism.

    • @cumcumcum148
      @cumcumcum148 Год назад

      The first that came to my mind is Maxim machine gun. Not the same, but shells didn't just fly everywhere

  • @letsgocamping88
    @letsgocamping88 5 лет назад +95

    I feel like Ian appreciates the engineering as much as the firing / history.

    • @kyleschafer6275
      @kyleschafer6275 5 лет назад +17

      He stated in an interview he does some engineering and appreciates the engineering behind a fire arm ( not exactly what he said but along those lines), and basically the main reason he does forgotten weapons is to try and save the engineering designs and known knowledge about a fire arm.

    • @jaredneaves7007
      @jaredneaves7007 5 лет назад +11

      Ian is literally an engineer lmao

    • @davelowesky8054
      @davelowesky8054 3 года назад +3

      @@kyleschafer6275 You can really tell the difference between the guys that actually use weapons and the guys who read books and make RUclips videos about guns.

  • @BodilyFunction
    @BodilyFunction 3 года назад +50

    As a left handed shooter, we are already used to having to pay an extra premium for left handed guns so spending a little more on a gun as cool as this that is completely ambidextrous is hardly even an issue.

    • @Ryne4S
      @Ryne4S 3 года назад +5

      it's going to benefit for mass productions I think, and it's a cool feature

  • @ShootAUT
    @ShootAUT 5 лет назад +515

    I really liked it until you began to take it apart - this screw, and that screw, and here a pin, then there a pin.
    It has got some nice design ideas, mostly for left-handed shooters. But especially regarding taking it apart for cleaning, changing barrels, maintenance etc., the AUG has already been doing a much better job for over 40 years.

    • @OhSome1HasThisName
      @OhSome1HasThisName 5 лет назад +66

      You feel like they spent all the time on the clever bits and kinda rushed the basics, which is a shame because the clever bits are really quite cool

    • @Skyfox94
      @Skyfox94 5 лет назад +53

      That's the thing with the AUG - it's easily serviceable and durable as hell simply because the mechanism is so simple. In both terms it beats the AR15 with ease. In my opinion there's only one thing about the AUG that sucks - and that's the trigger. Apart from that a modern AUG is just fantastic in every way.

    • @ironwolfF1
      @ironwolfF1 5 лет назад +17

      @@Skyfox94 Trigger pull issues have been the bane of many a bull pup design, and the chief reason (IMO) why bull pups haven't taken off as a main-stream battle rifle.

    • @PorchPotatoMike
      @PorchPotatoMike 5 лет назад +10

      Everywhere a pin pin.

    • @ironwolfF1
      @ironwolfF1 5 лет назад +29

      While there are more than the usual 'fiddly bits' than what would be desirable in a rifle, the fact that it's a short-stroke gas system instead of direct impingement translates into simpler cleaning to maintain it. This rifle has two levels of maintenance: battle cleaning, and a full take-down cleaning; having shot an M16 for many years, this weapon is not as bad in terms of "field cleaning", and *far more* forgiving if it's only casually cleaned. Something you can NEVER do with an M16... you clean it religiously, or it WILL fail you at the worse possible moment.
      Been there, done that, and still have the OD t-shirts to prove it.

  • @huntermitchell761
    @huntermitchell761 3 года назад +37

    That blowout plug system is probably the most innovative safety system in a rifle I've seen to date. Very cool!

  • @admiralbutterscotch5147
    @admiralbutterscotch5147 5 лет назад +59

    I see pinhead got into firearm design after the hell raiser movies.

  • @TransistorBased
    @TransistorBased 3 года назад +27

    "only needs two tools to disassmble"
    *P90 has entered the chat*

  • @Zues120
    @Zues120 4 года назад +35

    "Enough with goofy ejection hijinks"
    NO KEEP GOING

  • @fulsame1
    @fulsame1 5 лет назад +115

    Man, the Master Chief collection PC port is looking really good.

    • @Kar98killme
      @Kar98killme 5 лет назад +4

      Timhouse gun jesus for halo infinite

  • @ferntheyoutuber9960
    @ferntheyoutuber9960 5 лет назад +83

    Desert Tech MDR. Because you can't fight the covenant with an AR.

    • @bassmith448bassist5
      @bassmith448bassist5 4 года назад

      Sez who??????!!!!!!!

    • @bassmith448bassist5
      @bassmith448bassist5 4 года назад +1

      And after the Master Chief lost his sidearm I tossed him my trusty AR15 and he greassed at least 15 or16 more of the Covanent fighters!!!!!

    • @thunderofgr
      @thunderofgr 4 года назад +1

      @@bassmith448bassist5 That’s when you toss him the MP17 (aka the SMG from Halo 3: ODST)

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams 4 года назад +2

      I mean, plonk a little display and flashlight on there and it’s pretty close to a UNSC assault rifle.

  • @agentmonde1
    @agentmonde1 5 лет назад +190

    Love your videos but I'm waiting for the 20mm machine gun from South Africa 😋😋😋😋

    • @chadianguardsman3358
      @chadianguardsman3358 5 лет назад +8

      @@Mr_Makina. SAME

    • @TerribleToaster
      @TerribleToaster 5 лет назад +13

      @@Mr_Makina just wait till Christmas

    • @heinzpeter644
      @heinzpeter644 5 лет назад +3

      @@TerribleToaster im so hyped for that

    • @Tricerius
      @Tricerius 5 лет назад

      20mm? Smfh. We want the space magic!

    • @TheWolfsnack
      @TheWolfsnack 5 лет назад +9

      ..and the 12 ga Spider vehicle defense gun from Rhodesia

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 5 лет назад +68

    The ejection port is really neat although I have no idea how reliable that is. I love the safety venting hole, that's a really nice addition.

    • @victordiez2085
      @victordiez2085 5 лет назад +1

      Time will tell

    • @opforind
      @opforind 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah I found the ejection system very novel but couldn’t help but wonder if there was a simpler way to achieve it.

    • @Punisher9419
      @Punisher9419 5 лет назад +2

      @@opforind After watching the InRange video my suspicions where met, the ejection system isn't reliable and neither are the other mechanics. It's a real shame. Perhaps best to stick to what has been done in the past because you really can't beat or not yet anyway a good AK or a good AR.

    • @opforind
      @opforind 5 лет назад +2

      Kuddlesworth NA yep just watched it as well. At least it’s modular design leaves the door open for an improved ejection system .

    • @Punisher9419
      @Punisher9419 5 лет назад +1

      @@opforind Perhaps you can't polish a turd?

  • @luismoreira792
    @luismoreira792 5 лет назад +162

    Interesting weapon, I would like to have one, but I can not help imagining when seeing more mechanical elements, more pieces more things to give problem or break.

    • @ArtyTheta
      @ArtyTheta 5 лет назад +12

      Better materials, manufacturing techniques and better quality control allow for more complex weapons

    • @killerpeaches7
      @killerpeaches7 5 лет назад +13

      @@ArtyTheta In theory. Watching their shooting video it seems to be a great advertisement for the KISS principal. This thing is a temperamental, jam prone POS currently. With a terribly designed ejection port, gas controls that you have to dissemble the gun to use, and obnoxious recoil. So maybe they succeed in the "better materials" side... but manufacturing techniques and QA? Nope. Sorry, but for an Infantry Combat Weapon, complex is bad. Period.

    • @ArtyTheta
      @ArtyTheta 5 лет назад +10

      @@killerpeaches7
      By that principle we should be using pumps/bolt actions cause they are way simpler

    • @ArtyTheta
      @ArtyTheta 5 лет назад +3

      @@ravissary79
      I am not advocating for unnecessary complication. Something like the AN94 is just bonkers
      I am advocating for technological advancements, that, most of the time, imply more complicated designs.
      Complicated designs do not exclude intuitive use

    • @harrisonavera8835
      @harrisonavera8835 5 лет назад +3

      I own one. It is such a cool idea but I wouldn't advise buying one. I've had problems with it. It is pretty picky with ammo

  • @hamoodhabibi1579
    @hamoodhabibi1579 4 года назад +34

    EFT Fans:
    *Heavy Breathing*

    • @mandreadfg
      @mandreadfg 3 года назад

      *heavy breathing increases*

    • @Nyeoom
      @Nyeoom 3 года назад

      Ian's got Gear Fear, unless he's just waiting to get his hands on some M61 to bring that out. His Peacekeeper Rep is insane though, max level for sure

  • @whatfor5
    @whatfor5 5 лет назад +195

    Technically it looks absolutely brilliant, with the possible exception of relying on way too many fasteners. Practically speaking though...... I guess I've got three major problems with it.
    The first may be solved with time, and that is reliability. How well it'll function over time and in adverse conditions is just a big unknown.
    The second is support. Anyone remember the SIG 556xi for example? Or how about the "magpul" ACR? Lots of promises were made about manufacture, support, and conversions and largely it just didn't materialize. I have similar concerns for this platform, especially since if Desert Tech goes under there is a whole lot of nothing in the way of support for the rifle.
    And third is price. The base rifle is a bit dear at 2.5K while a Tavor is 1.5K, but okay fine it is more advanced and all that. However the conversion kits are 750-1000$ each. You could buy some really nice rifles in each and every caliber for the price of a single MDR to cover the range.
    And this is where my concerns all converge. At this price few people will want to be the first to try, which will lead to low sales, maintained high prices due to low volume, low volume means fewer conversions and less support, and all of this makes it more likely Desert Tech won't be around in 10 years and the MDR will really belong on Forgotten Weapons as a clever quirk of weapon design which just didn't catch on.
    *shrug*

    • @deejay1534
      @deejay1534 5 лет назад +13

      Whatfor5 IMHO Desert Tech is akin to a much higher end Kel-Tec. They release some pretty sweet looking and high quality designs but don’t have a big enough pedigree to be considered a true “military” firearms company. Albeit, their guns are designed with combat in mind, like the SRS. Give this rifle a few years and we’ll see if it lives up to the hype (and price) or just becomes another ACR/XCR/F2000. P.S., huge fan of yours, I still remember the first time watching your RHOP tutorial for my Ares UMP-45.

    • @alexanderstrickland9036
      @alexanderstrickland9036 5 лет назад +3

      Seems like the proper market strategy would be to come in to the game with a ‘budget’ rifle at around $1000 and then build off of that.
      Put out a product that represents proof of concept and is cheaper to produce while maintaining reliability.
      Then have higher higher/priced options(all the fancy shit like chromed, fluted, ported barrels, stainless internals).
      Like buying a $1000 AR as opposed to a $2000 AR.
      Because as it stands I’d rather buy a ptr if I wanted a 308.
      The ONLY thing this rifle has going for it, from my perspective, is that it’s bullpup, which is arguably a bad thing.

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 5 лет назад +4

      I think it would be great if IWI bought DeserTech. That would assure long term support and they could position it as a subsidiary with various good quality niche designs.

    • @AdeptN00B
      @AdeptN00B 5 лет назад +5

      A seal did test it in combat for about 6 months. I think they decided they didnt need a 308 bulpup.

    • @lemoncide
      @lemoncide 5 лет назад

      MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY

  • @misery13666
    @misery13666 5 лет назад +7

    If this can get enough financial backing for volume production (keltec never figured this one out), and for advertising, It should sell well honestly. I know there are issues. price fasteners etc. But it's american made, bullpup, true ambi. It cumulatively tics a number of very big boxes that nobody else does. If the price got down to tavor money I'd likely buy it. Vegas is only a couple hours from their headquarters in salt lake, so any warranty is easy for me. I'm lefty, so this is one of the few bulpups I can really run without compensating for the gun's setup. and I prefer to put my money back into the american economy, not overseas. It creates american jobs, allows them to create more guns that create more jobs moving forward. I honestly don't care about the amount of hardware as it means I can simply unbolt and replace worn parts, and bolt in aftermarket parts if I so choose plus I'd rather replace a 40-50 dollar rail than an upper receiver.

  • @walterchristian5202
    @walterchristian5202 5 лет назад +38

    Can you do a video on the history of the RPK ? I never understood where and why it came about

    • @razvanconstantin740
      @razvanconstantin740 5 лет назад +4

      I think he touched on that on the video about the HK M27

    • @Myyra-games
      @Myyra-games 5 лет назад

      @@Klovaneer He said RPK, not RPD

    • @piciu256
      @piciu256 5 лет назад +13

      @@Myyra-games he also said about rpk. Read what he said again.

    • @spookygoof6176
      @spookygoof6176 5 лет назад

      The answers to those questions are pretty simple.
      Russians and Russians

  • @ALegitimateYoutuber
    @ALegitimateYoutuber 5 лет назад +5

    Seeing some of the comments on the takedown, i was expecting it to be bad. But no that's honestly not that bad for a complete teardown. Plus for if you just gotta pop it open you water out some stuff or something else, you just have to pop two pins. So i don't really getting what people are complaining about.
    Also i don't think they designed this to be a military gun, at most a rifle for higher end security groups. It just comes off as more of a gun you'd use for private use.

  • @peaceraybob
    @peaceraybob 4 года назад +5

    Yeah, I don't see this weapon getting many military contracts - tool needed for disassembly and the millions of pins.

  • @illegalclown
    @illegalclown 5 лет назад +73

    Neat, glad to see it's not just vaporware. Everyone I knew who preordered them canceled and bought whatever new hotness was on the market at the time.

    • @Ihasanart
      @Ihasanart 5 лет назад +12

      And they were better off, this thing is an unreliable expensive heap of junk.

    • @piRaufasertapete
      @piRaufasertapete 5 лет назад +1

      Maybe Keltec RFB or RDB.
      If you want a rifle with a similar concept.

    • @killerpeaches7
      @killerpeaches7 5 лет назад

      It might as well be vaporware. This is, as delivered, crap. Overly complex, unreliable junk. If one wan't an overpriced jam prone range toy, then yeah, at least it actually exists.

    • @illegalclown
      @illegalclown 5 лет назад +5

      Yeah, I saw the InRange review. I will pass on this one for sure. I don't mind if a cheap gun isn't totally polished or needs some work to run at its full potential. If I'm dropping $2K or more on a gun it has to run almost flawlessly out of the box. This thing couldn't even run surplus ammo, which is my minimum standard for reliability. I understand this is new and hasn't had decades of work done on the design, but I've been an early adopter of a few guns in the past. While they were quickly surpassed by improved models they still ran perfectly on day one.

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 5 лет назад +3

      @@illegalclown surplus ammo... reliability...
      Pick one.

  • @killahhillah14
    @killahhillah14 3 года назад +3

    MDR: Money, Dollars, REEEEEE

  • @MikeVal1369
    @MikeVal1369 3 года назад +3

    "Uh, staff sergeant? I lost my takedown tool."

  • @elliottbollinger3006
    @elliottbollinger3006 5 лет назад +10

    The ejection system is pretty slick with everything being only two pieces that could be easily swapped. Some say bullpups are a dead end of development but this shows people are willing to improve the idea till it works just as fine as conventional rifles. Also Ian would you think of a military using a family of bullpups in 5.7, 5.56, and 7.62 with PDW, mag fed LMG, DMR, and basic assault rifle? Or a 6.4 by 38 military round? I have both ideas in my 200 years in the future on Mars science fiction novel. Your videos have been a great help for me to get ideas or information for my book.

    • @ArtyTheta
      @ArtyTheta 5 лет назад

      5.56 and 7.62 wont last 200 years. They might not last 50

    • @ArtyTheta
      @ArtyTheta 5 лет назад

      @@mkfldargfv
      For what i've heard the USA is looking to develop something more powerful than a 556 and something more controllable than a 308

    • @elliottbollinger3006
      @elliottbollinger3006 5 лет назад

      I am manly figuring the Martian nations would at first get old surplus till they would either have a large civilian arms industry or government run armories. The Russian colony in my book who is going through an independent war has Mosin Nagant and AKs being issued to militia units from old military warehouses.

    • @ArtyTheta
      @ArtyTheta 5 лет назад +2

      @@elliottbollinger3006
      That would be like fighting today in Siria with a musket.
      I dont think its a good idea

    • @elliottbollinger3006
      @elliottbollinger3006 5 лет назад

      But that's all the independent movement have. They do have more modern equipment for front line units and the only the over energetic volunteer militias which are never meant to see action are armed with the older equipment. It makes them look good for the people for parades but that all their good. Even the characters all of ohm are military members of a different nation can see it is all a show and nothing more.

  • @tomahan044
    @tomahan044 5 лет назад +97

    Haha, silly Ian, the "star screw" is called Torx by tech normies like me

    • @ridermak4111
      @ridermak4111 5 лет назад +21

      Simon van Eeden
      There are several “star shaped” drives similar to the Torx, so it could be said that Ian was just being generically safe with his terminology......but it’s probably a Torx. 🧐😜

    • @ridermak4111
      @ridermak4111 5 лет назад +15

      Doc T’Soni,
      I was just having a little fun. Evidently your fun comes from being an insulting
      “complete jerk”.

    • @themeatpopsicle
      @themeatpopsicle 5 лет назад +7

      i changed out all my screws to Robertson

    • @tomahan044
      @tomahan044 5 лет назад +3

      @@ridermak4111 No problem bro, you did not bully me. No reason to feel sad.
      Doc is a silly angry little fellow.

    • @_Nyx_
      @_Nyx_ 5 лет назад +2

      @@ridermak4111 I appreciated your comment lol completely correct with a light tone, I don't see where that other guy found offence

  • @davidca96
    @davidca96 5 лет назад +5

    This is one of the first bullpups that I absolutely love. I am left handed so most I dont even bother with, but this ones setup perfectly to cater to both left and right.

  • @charlescomly1
    @charlescomly1 5 лет назад +3

    Ya da...ya da.....ya da, yah it's a interesting looking gun, but the most important question is..... will it hold up under the MUD & SAND test?

  • @Psiberzerker
    @Psiberzerker 5 лет назад +3

    What I love about this ejection system is it throws .308(7.62x51) cases out a port that looks about the size of a pistol case. A really short pistol case. Not a whole lot of area to get stuff stuck in there, even with the dust cover open. Considering the fact that it's a full Battle Rifle ejection port!

  • @DeetexSeraphine
    @DeetexSeraphine 4 года назад +1

    Huh, I have an airsoft rifle (APS-UAR) that looks strikingly similar to this; same trigger, same mag release system, same pistolgrip and cheekweld, same selectorswitch... even the same release on the buttplate.
    I wonder if there is any correlation between the two.

  • @cscearce2000
    @cscearce2000 5 лет назад +22

    "Micro dynamic rifle" 😂 what the hell does that even mean

    • @randomazn420
      @randomazn420 4 года назад

      Lol sounds like a fancy term for a rifle calibered micro PDW

    • @KageMinowara
      @KageMinowara 4 года назад +3

      Its a rifle that's dynamic, but micro.

    • @lord_hemp
      @lord_hemp 3 года назад

      Really, what the fuck?! Like, dude, what the fuck?

  • @kinomotosakura9550
    @kinomotosakura9550 5 лет назад +32

    The biggest con about this rifle is that disassembly requires a tool.

    • @CxOrillion
      @CxOrillion 5 лет назад +2

      It takes a tool to disassemble ANY gun to that point. A quick field strip is just two pins. Technically that's twice as many as an AR-15, but what're you going to do?

    • @jasondoe2596
      @jasondoe2596 5 лет назад +6

      Kinomoto Sakura, they should have integrated the disassembly tool somewhere in the stock, at least.
      With this much fucking plastic, it should have been easy to have a storage space (even if the tool would have to be smaller).
      I mean, I know nothing about guns, and I still think this improvement is totally obvious for any military-style rifle. Inexcusable.

    • @kinomotosakura9550
      @kinomotosakura9550 5 лет назад +4

      You're right. I glanced at the rifle, didn't watch the entire video, and assumed it didn't use push pins like an AR-15. Maybe next time I'll make sure I know what I'm talking about before I comment.
      It'll be interesting to see how these rifles turn out. I want them to be good.

    • @sean7456
      @sean7456 5 лет назад +1

      *hasn't watched the InRange video yet*

    • @LastNameTom
      @LastNameTom 4 года назад

      Yeah, but so does the AR. Would you rather carry an armorer's tool or this one? Also, one big plus is all the pins are captive. I really hope this gun pans out because one of my biggest problems while in the Army was manipulation of my weapon while in a vehicle, or getting and out. Essentially i had to get in first then bring my weapon in and vice versa. I had the 18 inch non telescoping stock with grenade launcher. I called it my musket because it was as long as one!

  • @Weed8Gone
    @Weed8Gone 5 лет назад +42

    Everybody: name one bullpup that doesn't have a long, creepy trigger.

    • @razvanconstantin740
      @razvanconstantin740 5 лет назад +17

      The AUG

    • @chinesesparrows
      @chinesesparrows 5 лет назад +2

      Agreed, but i havent seen any serious trigger jobs for bullpups. Military m16/m4 triggers suck too but there are good aftermarket trigger packa

    • @TheVillainInGlasses
      @TheVillainInGlasses 5 лет назад +1

      I still want to see a production bullpup with one of those electronically actuated triggers. Feel like it would completely get rid of that entire problem, and I don't think it would be all that expensive to actually manufacture.

    • @DrWolfensteinz
      @DrWolfensteinz 5 лет назад +5

      K&M M17S has a phenominal trigger, even compared to some of the AR match triggers on the market.
      The AUG triggers tend to be 8 pounds, but fairly crisp. They are good combat triggers.

    • @jwill540
      @jwill540 5 лет назад

      X95

  • @just_matt214
    @just_matt214 5 лет назад +5

    This thing has more screws than a Yoji Shinkawa drawing.

  • @abelstraw4562
    @abelstraw4562 5 лет назад +2

    As a lefty, this is one of the guns I’m excited about. If they could come down on price to about the $1400 range to compete with the AR10 market then I would bite on it. I have a left ejection AR 10 that I hunt with but it’s a little unwieldy in the woods with my suppressor attached.

  • @vek9298
    @vek9298 4 года назад +3

    My shitposter can’t be this cute

    • @vtk7763
      @vtk7763 4 года назад +1

      Ah, an SKK of culture

  • @dannydethanos6994
    @dannydethanos6994 3 года назад +2

    I live in Utah always cool to see local firearms talent we have a weird amount of it for most of us being anti violence

  • @pewpewTN
    @pewpewTN 2 года назад +3

    MDR=
    Mormon
    Designed
    Rifle

  • @jhonrock2386
    @jhonrock2386 5 лет назад +3

    Even though I never have handled this weapon (and probably, never will), I still think this gun is awesome, just because of it's design.

  • @tomaszsiudak2807
    @tomaszsiudak2807 5 лет назад +8

    Looks a bit like copy of Polish MSBS in bull-pup configuration.

    • @44Jervis
      @44Jervis 5 лет назад

      Except the MSBS-B is no longer developed

    • @tomaszsiudak2807
      @tomaszsiudak2807 5 лет назад

      @@44Jervis I have no idea where did you hear this BS.

    • @44Jervis
      @44Jervis 5 лет назад

      @@tomaszsiudak2807 MSPO

    • @tomaszsiudak2807
      @tomaszsiudak2807 5 лет назад

      Jan Moszczuk fragout.uberflip.com/i/1055276-frag-out-magazine-22-pl/115?

    • @iornlint
      @iornlint 5 лет назад

      Correct me if im wrong isnt the MSBS just a polish bullpup acr?

  • @samholdsworth3957
    @samholdsworth3957 5 лет назад +32

    So more like an UNKNOWN WEAPON...hehehe

  • @Wyatt1314.
    @Wyatt1314. 2 года назад +1

    I love the front half of this rifle! Omg! Yet the back looks brickish n unwieldy

  • @ryanpeck3377
    @ryanpeck3377 5 лет назад +3

    I feel like Ian posted this video about 10 yrs too early .. That or he’s just getting a jump on future videos