Ohio Ordnance HCAR: The BAR of the Future

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    The Ohio Ordnance HCAR (Heavy Counter Assault Rifle - a rather fanciful name) is what happens when you take the US military development track of the Browning Automatic Rifle, and bring up to the present day. Why would someone choose this particular product to modernize? Well, because eOhio Ordnance was already making standard semiautomatic reproduction of the M1918A2 (World War Two era) BAR, and this type of modernization was a fairly obvious extension of that project.
    The HCAR retains the .30-06 chambering of the BAR, but gives it much-improved controls. The magazine release is now a handy AK-like lever, the safety sits nicely under the thumb of a right-handed user, and a proper pistol grip replaces the traditional wrist of the M1918A2 (a change that Colt and FN made in the 1930s, but which never got into the US Ordnance system). The rifle fires from a closed bolt, and Ohio Ordnance added a bolt release control as well - something not needed on the open-bolt originals. Picantinny rails on the receiver and handguard allow for mounting of optics, bipods, and other accessories.
    A few holdovers from the US military ancestry inclose the A2-style magazine guides, and the rather tricky disassembly procedure (which was also much improved by FN in the 1930s, but not adopted by the US). The barrel is offered in either 16" or 20"; both dimpled for weight reduction. The receiver, bolt carrier, and many other parts have been substantially lightened, bringing the HCAR in at 11.75-12.5 pounds depending on barrel length - a huge reduction from the 19 pounds of a standard M1918A2.
    The question is, what is the purpose of the HCAR? It is a very expensive rifle, and one is tempted to try to see it in a modern tactical light because of its styling. However, there really isn't much a .30-06 can do that can't be accomplished by any number of lighter and cheaper rifles with more widespread aftermarket support. To me, the purpose of the HCAR is simply to have fun with. It is a very cool rifle, and does not need to be justified as aTier One Operator's choice. It is reliable, pleasant to shoot, accurate, and makes form a fun head-turning day at the range. Sometimes that's all a gun needs to be...
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  • @saltybones8492
    @saltybones8492 Год назад +1429

    I am the assembly monkey at Ohio Ordnance that puts the HCARs together and it's like a dream come true to see my labor in Ian's hands.

    • @BeingFireRetardant
      @BeingFireRetardant Год назад +112

      Well you are doing a fine job, brother.
      From another former assembly monkey...

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait Год назад +32

      This thing seems pretty rad, I generally love the idea of modernizing older guns even if it's somewhat impractical. See tacticoolized lever guns :P

    • @NoobNoobNews
      @NoobNoobNews Год назад +18

      @@atomic_wait A lot of very old firearms, machine guns specifically, are seeing new life in modern war. in Ukraine, a lot of the antiques are used in defensive positions while modern rifles are used for assaults. Looking at how difficult a time Russia is having against Ukrainian positions that are equipped with WWI Maxims... I think weapons like these are most practical when resisting an attacking enemy. this HCAR looks super terrifying if you put it in a watch tower.

    • @AcidGambit419
      @AcidGambit419 Год назад +9

      Is there any way to add these parts to an original BAR? Not that I would want to I just really want to see the HCAR in full auto like God intended

    • @saltybones8492
      @saltybones8492 Год назад +8

      @@AcidGambit419 I've heard rumors of one of the prototypes being made full auto for endurance testing but to my knowledge no one has converted an HCAR to open bolt auto like a bar.

  • @iagodarriba1840
    @iagodarriba1840 Год назад +2668

    Just imagine a man raiding Normandy with a BAR with an LPVO, an AR 15 stock and grip, and a spray can paint job.

  • @jackjmaheriii
    @jackjmaheriii Год назад +1317

    Seeing the normally reserved Ian, who has handled just about every interesting or meaningful firearm on god’s green earth, get the honest and excited giggles of a gamer kid who’s shooting a real rifle for the first time…. Well, it’s kinda heartwarming.

    • @billcook7285
      @billcook7285 Год назад +35

      I noticed it too. 😂 I can't really blame him though.
      Was that not the COOLEST FKN RIFLE you ever saw? 🤯 I loved it!
      Can you imagine deer hunting with that monster?

    • @RipRLeeErmey
      @RipRLeeErmey Год назад +31

      "... Gamer kid who's shooting a real rifle for the first time..."
      I still get this feeling and I've been out shooting at least a dozen times by now 😭😭

    • @User_Un_Friendly
      @User_Un_Friendly Год назад +10

      Of course it does. For the obvious reasons. Confirmation that John Browning's designs are still relevant, by this gun and MANY OTHERS, a modernized revision of Browning's classic design, and soft shooting...though Jordan disagrees. 🤣

    • @TheAces1979
      @TheAces1979 Год назад +2

      Here, HERE!

    • @denpabacon8501
      @denpabacon8501 Год назад

      You're kind of a weirdo ngl...

  • @Dr.Ballsonya
    @Dr.Ballsonya Год назад +640

    Ohio ordnance works used to be my wife’s account when she sold copy machines. These guys are top notch humans. They used to send us a gallon of Ohio maple syrup every year for Christmas.
    Can’t say enough good things about these folks, seriously they deserve nothing but praise.
    When I longer does that job but every winter I long for that syrup as I’m too cheap to buy my own 😂

    • @martinforrey4988
      @martinforrey4988 Год назад +11

      Funny you mention that, the maple festival is going on this weekend in Chardon

    • @BBBJOT
      @BBBJOT Год назад +4

      You can try to spell their name right though

    • @Dr.Ballsonya
      @Dr.Ballsonya Год назад +16

      @@BBBJOT bad day?

    • @PlandemicExcersize
      @PlandemicExcersize Год назад +2

      Ohio syrup, sounds like a meme material, like Canadian just made in Ohio

    • @Dr.Ballsonya
      @Dr.Ballsonya Год назад +8

      @@Ambusher1st I think you need to reevaluate a few things. If you have an issue with law enforcement maybe that’s because you are constantly on the wrong side of it

  • @scttewegner72
    @scttewegner72 Год назад +836

    Seriously, the intro transition from old BAR to new HCAR was pretty sick

    • @user-dc1dr9kr8x
      @user-dc1dr9kr8x Год назад +10

      Such quality

    • @gregorysteffensen3279
      @gregorysteffensen3279 Год назад +26

      24/7 Lo-Fi HCAR Beats to Chill and Relax To

    • @stacybrown3714
      @stacybrown3714 Год назад +4

      Crap... now I gotta buy one for yotes and pigs because if I don't, well I don't even wanna think about that now.

    • @JordanFlayer
      @JordanFlayer Год назад

      😁

    • @FS2K4Pilot
      @FS2K4Pilot Год назад

      Unless Ian is a former Marine, I have issues with the use of our Hymn in his video.

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 Год назад +866

    Interesting way to use up some otherwise discarded receivers. I’m sure The Chieftain approves of Ian’s shoulder patch!

    • @13thdukeofwybourne69
      @13thdukeofwybourne69 Год назад +57

      Not just the patch! the whole jacket/trousers combo looks legit, not sure how he got it, Fórsaí Cosanta are very fussy about just who can get hold of their uniform....

    • @willcaputo1
      @willcaputo1 Год назад +64

      Yeah I thought that the HCAR was kinda dumb when I heard about it at first. A new production 30 caliber rifle in something other than 308 or 300blk, that uses an old platform with older features, and is probably heavier than it probably needs to be. My initial reaction: this is stupid, I'll take 2.
      Now it makes more sense. I'll still take 2.

    • @letsdothis9063
      @letsdothis9063 Год назад +14

      I love it. I must have it. I have always been a fan of military camo, and used to but it from goodwill and milsurp places when it was cheap.
      Now, with RUclips, the stuff that I used to be made fun of for, has become Gucci. I hate to see the demand and prices go up.
      Oh well, I love this Irish pattern. I will find it.

    • @Celebmacil
      @Celebmacil Год назад +5

      @@13thdukeofwybourne69 I kind of wondered if maybe he'd not gotten it from The Chieftain directly, actually. It wouldn't strike me as a big surprise, in any case!

    • @mahatmapodge
      @mahatmapodge Год назад +5

      ​@@13thdukeofwybourne69 Ian wouldn't be all that Aitúl though

  • @bobjordan8283
    @bobjordan8283 Год назад +234

    My Father carried one in the Korean war with the 101st he was part of the lost company! He always used to say it was the great equalizer when it came to laying down stopping power from a distance! Took him to the Browning arms museum in Utah he and the curator started talking old war stories and we got a "Special" tour! He's been gone since 2014 not a day goes by that I don't think about him! Thanks for the memories Ian!

    • @garyvon1736
      @garyvon1736 Год назад +8

      My Dad 1921-2014 WW2 Army Air Corp Veteran miss him every day.

    • @silentstryker1590
      @silentstryker1590 Год назад +2

      He sounds like he was an interesting man, his service is appreciated.

    • @Michaelmackdonald
      @Michaelmackdonald Год назад

      Your father fought in the clone wars?

    • @osscar-nh2vm
      @osscar-nh2vm Год назад +4

      As a Korean I sincerely thank your family and all who fought for our country.

  • @KorokHaze93
    @KorokHaze93 Год назад +37

    There's something I appreciate about reinventing an old weapon while still keeping as much of the original look as you can while using the modern materials.
    It feels like a show of respect...tipping your hat to the original designers.

  • @Hanitcal69
    @Hanitcal69 Год назад +583

    I used to do yard work for an old man who fought at the battle of the bulge carrying a bar. He told stories about taking deer with it so his squad could eat something other than rations for a night or two. I showed him the hcar when it first came out and he absolutely hated it lol. Said it was a disgrace

    • @finalbossd
      @finalbossd Год назад +54

      Why did he hate it, out of curiosity?

    • @stunitech
      @stunitech Год назад +38

      ​@finalbossd Agree, would be interested in what his specific objections were

    • @fredbecker607
      @fredbecker607 Год назад +153

      Probably, just the looks. He would have liked most of the changes if on a different gun. Us older guys are more attracted to good wood furniture and fewer accessories. Just on pure looks, it strikes me as ugly. For use, would take it over original. 😊

    • @rilesmattix5217
      @rilesmattix5217 Год назад +61

      @@finalbossd he fought with that rifle. Why would he ever want to see it in a fashion that almost insults his fighting rifle?

    • @tomjackson4374
      @tomjackson4374 Год назад +21

      I agree. It is one of the ugliest guns I have ever seen.

  • @templar804
    @templar804 Год назад +230

    The dimpling on the barrel also makes it fly farther, when you run out of ammo and have to throw your rifle like a javelin.

    • @chrisclark6161
      @chrisclark6161 Год назад +46

      Since that's pretty much immediately, I find the lack of bayonet lug to be a gross oversight in terms of achieving secondary javelin function.

    • @Maddog3060
      @Maddog3060 Год назад +13

      I thought it was so you can grip the barrel better as you use the giant thing as a club.

    • @BiffBuffchest
      @BiffBuffchest Год назад +2

      still have to watch the hook or slice

    • @AlphaCarinae
      @AlphaCarinae Год назад +10

      Found the Tediore user

    • @MrCantStopTheRobot
      @MrCantStopTheRobot Год назад +4

      End them rightly.

  • @DesertMav
    @DesertMav Год назад +48

    If I had the $4-5k laying around, I'd order one of these HCARs in a heartbeat. It would be a ton of fun to take out once in a while and touch some targets at distance. I also like how Ian was getting excited over the black tip 30-06 that he was pushing through the HCAR, since that's how I get sometimes when I go to the range.

    • @Videomorgue
      @Videomorgue Год назад +15

      $6,500-$7,150 now.

    • @DesertMav
      @DesertMav Год назад +10

      @@Videomorgue dang inflation is a pain. Then again I saw the Sig spear going for around $15k about 6 months ago.

    • @Dr.KarlowTheOctoling
      @Dr.KarlowTheOctoling Год назад +4

      @@DesertMav The SPEAR costs $4999.99 now.

  • @KillrMillr7
    @KillrMillr7 Год назад +123

    Dad carried one in Korea, at the frozen Chosin. He always had great things to say about it.

    • @KillrMillr7
      @KillrMillr7 Год назад +14

      @@Seeker-wm7lj A BAR crazy, evidently 21 others got it.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Год назад +3

      You pa was an epic time traveler.

    • @kenlandon7803
      @kenlandon7803 3 месяца назад +1

      How many of us are alive today thanks to
      John Browning's genius?

  • @MrLasseSF
    @MrLasseSF Год назад +422

    I really hope you have the chance to due a versus-match with HCAR and the modernised FG-42 pitted against each other on the clock.

    • @Mightylcanis
      @Mightylcanis Год назад +29

      Now this I wanna see

    • @velvetine74
      @velvetine74 Год назад +6

      Both in semi-auto .308 I think the HCAR would just come out on top. Just my opinion. Both gorgeous rifles though.

    • @Bustin_cider00
      @Bustin_cider00 Год назад +27

      @@velvetine74inline stock and a lighter action makes the FG better imo

    • @benn454
      @benn454 Год назад +9

      3 gun with this, the Springfield M1A, and a 2011.

    • @dogg92
      @dogg92 Год назад +14

      What is the modernized FG-42?

  • @enricopaolocoronado2511
    @enricopaolocoronado2511 Год назад +496

    Doesn't matter if it's expensive or isn't the best, the HCAR is just a fun gun overall.

    • @Truminashadepressure
      @Truminashadepressure Год назад +4

      Have you priced these?
      Edit- I misunderstood your post man they’re expensive 😅👌🤙

    • @saturnity6
      @saturnity6 Год назад +21

      @@Truminashadepressure They're around $7000 new

    • @Truminashadepressure
      @Truminashadepressure Год назад +21

      @@saturnity6 that’s a few dollars above my budget.

    • @samcoon6699
      @samcoon6699 Год назад +7

      ​@@saturnity6
      Figures that it's put of my price range. Just about like everything that is reviewed on here.

    • @TheTeddyGuy28
      @TheTeddyGuy28 Год назад +7

      Yeah, unfortunately at that price I'll buy a literal Gatling gun or a .50 cal.

  • @stupidmonkey3866
    @stupidmonkey3866 Год назад +19

    This thing is awesome, it scratches the same itch for "what if we modernized old weapons" as the ebr for the m14. Leads to SUPER cool weapons even if they may not match the effectiveness of modern weapons with the same thought and effort put into it. Safe to say its another rifle i just put in the daydream safe.

  • @codyopperman5930
    @codyopperman5930 Год назад +35

    0:15. Something I just realized, curved mags have another little hidden advantage. The curve is an easy way to determine which way a mag needs to face before going into the gun. Of course there is the much more practical advantage of better feeding and higher capacity, but it's just one more reason why curves are better

    • @rilesmattix5217
      @rilesmattix5217 Год назад +12

      With Ian being a francophile (especially with the FAMAS), you're just asking to get your throat slit by him in your sleep lmao

    • @mekaerwin7187
      @mekaerwin7187 Год назад +5

      Oddly, he never shoots the rifle with the curved magazine in it.

    • @AshleyPomeroy
      @AshleyPomeroy Год назад +9

      That's an interesting point - I wonder if real-life BAR and Sten etc operators were taught to stow the magazines in the same orientation every time to stop them fumbling if it was dark. But given all the FALs and G3s that were in service post-war (and the 20-round M-16 magazines) it can't have been that much of an issue.

    • @stefankrebs7593
      @stefankrebs7593 Год назад +3

      @@AshleyPomeroy You generally stow mags in a preferred orientation so you can pull them and insert instantly. It's kind of normal with weapons you are trained for.

    • @Jaxrayh
      @Jaxrayh 11 месяцев назад

      Just feel the bottom of the mag, most straight mags nowadays are slanted at the bottom

  • @AThum13
    @AThum13 Год назад +168

    Love to see some BAR action! Normal or Sci-fi version….

  • @dairyqueenshake6719
    @dairyqueenshake6719 Год назад +17

    MVP Kevin for letting Ian put some lead through his full auto M1918 in the intro, that thing was beautiful 👌

  • @giarcsavage
    @giarcsavage Год назад +17

    the doughboy walking fire intro was excellent, as was the slide into modern tacticool blasting. well done Ian!

  • @TXGRunner
    @TXGRunner Год назад +31

    Love the HCAR, it is on my short list, but I ended up buying the Noreen BN-36 (AR in 30-06) first. Fortunately, I have lots of 30'06 ammo I bought at 25 cents a round a long time ago.

  • @billsummy2412
    @billsummy2412 Год назад +7

    Paint it up in Black & White and you have the next STARWARS heavy blaster ....

  • @Gator-357
    @Gator-357 Год назад +9

    I've had an HCAR for a couple of years now. It's worth the money, highly reccomend.

  • @Scott-qq9jd
    @Scott-qq9jd Год назад +40

    I'm really surprised how much effect that slight angling had on penetration in the AP test at the end.

    • @classifiedad1
      @classifiedad1 Год назад +11

      That’s why a lot of the German armored cars and half-tracks featured heavily sloped front and sides, almost polygonal.
      8mm steel (1.525 mm thinner than the target) can’t resist 8mm armor-piercing ball head-on. But when sloped at those angles, it can.

    • @RabidMullet
      @RabidMullet 7 месяцев назад

      The T-34 effect.

  • @andrewthomas4569
    @andrewthomas4569 Год назад +11

    I was in high school with Robert Landies III in 2005. I remember him telling me about this idea, cool to see it come to fruition!

  • @jongutierrez9116
    @jongutierrez9116 Год назад +13

    This is the biggest Intro Production by Ian I’ve ever seen! Well played Sir. 👏🏼

  • @highdesertbiker
    @highdesertbiker Год назад +51

    I watched this video for about 2 seconds and then immediately subbed. Excellent work gentlemen. Props to filming, music, and editing people. Also overall vibe.

    • @imherkhan
      @imherkhan Год назад +16

      Welcome to the deepest rabbit hole you will ever explore

    • @simonpharand7427
      @simonpharand7427 Год назад +3

      Ian is the best gun guru you will ever find .. always clear concise and just keeps finding gems… you my friend have so many videos to look at I am jealous ( I’ve been a follower since the beginning and never miss a video)

    • @maikson97
      @maikson97 Год назад

      check some of the early era self loading pistols amazing stuff

    • @richardaldous3608
      @richardaldous3608 Год назад

      Welcome. Ian is a pleasure to watch and listen to!

    • @highdesertbiker
      @highdesertbiker Год назад

      @@justforever96 Awesome. Nice to meet ya. Thanks for all the info!

  • @DrewElGringasho
    @DrewElGringasho Год назад +5

    Ian, the intro transition from the BAR to the HCAR with the lowfi trap beat was actually sick af. Super dope. Go gun daddy. Lit lit

  • @Theinkedanarchist
    @Theinkedanarchist Год назад +6

    The US military (of sorts) DID use the HCAR. It was very useful in Afghanistan to fill in as a ridge to ridge engagement weapon temporarily. Still had F/A at the time, but it did wonders in that role. No dimpled barrel and slab side instead of those lightening cuts. But it was real useful for what it was when it was needed.

  • @michaelshelton5488
    @michaelshelton5488 Год назад +9

    Opening your video with the Marine Corps Hymn is always a good move 🤘👏

  • @Sgt_Potato_1
    @Sgt_Potato_1 Год назад +8

    This weapon is beautiful. There's just something special about that machining. The receiver indents, the barrel dimpling, the foregrip jimping, the modern pic rail and ventilation. It combines the beefy look of the original with the clean machine aesthetics for a really nice end product. Wow. No wonder Ian showed us his giddy side. 😂

  • @amendable5401
    @amendable5401 Год назад +6

    That intro was absolutely outstanding!! The black and white to color change really set the mood. Some of your best work imho. Thank you.

  • @johnanon6938
    @johnanon6938 Год назад +7

    HCAR's folding charging handle is cool and very similar to the Canadian FAL C1A1 and C2 both also had bolt lock open on empty and a bolt hold open device.

  • @davidn4956
    @davidn4956 Год назад +6

    I'm so glad you did a video on this gun, this is one of my absolute favorite concepts.

  • @fearlessleader8623
    @fearlessleader8623 Год назад +18

    I always thought the HCAR was a cool concept but after seeing your overview i really appreciate the time and effort OO put into developing this beast..i definitely wouldnt mind owning one if they werent super pricey and unobtanium

    • @Dr.KarlowTheOctoling
      @Dr.KarlowTheOctoling Год назад +1

      I would love to own one if it was full auto or I could convert it to full auto.

  • @seanfoltz7645
    @seanfoltz7645 Год назад +5

    The dimpled barrel also makes it look like the air cooling holes in old school machineguns.

  • @cam2351
    @cam2351 Год назад +4

    My grandfather is a professional old person, so he has a lot of experience doing a lot of random stuff. He says that during his time in the Army, his 2 favorite rifles he used were the M16 and the BAR. I bet he'd find these super neato if they were select fire like the real guy.

  • @andrewclark6971
    @andrewclark6971 Год назад +12

    I don't think I'd ever complain about a longer FW video. Nonetheless, great video as per usual.

  • @CGCAT
    @CGCAT Год назад +41

    I love the Irish deface forces camo. I turned in all mine when I left as there are legal restrictions on wearing it for a civilian. It is being retired for a more common camo so supply is cheaper. Looking fresh Ian.

    • @Pauly421
      @Pauly421 5 месяцев назад

      "Irish deface forces" lol

  • @ProtesttheAntagonist
    @ProtesttheAntagonist Год назад +7

    Regarding the top rail:
    It looks like the current top rail is dovetailed into the top of the receiver, extending it would add maybe 10-20 dollars to the price of the gun. The dovetail already extends all the way through the lockup hump so just lengthening it is totally feasible.
    I think the actual reason they haven't implemented it is because that's the location for the markings.(which would be a silly reason, but so be it)

  • @bearde_mut9731
    @bearde_mut9731 Год назад +4

    That uniform looks good on you Ian 👍 Nice to see it in your kit rotation.

  • @Theoby36183
    @Theoby36183 Год назад +5

    I'm very happy this HCAR is finally getting it's respect and interest by Ian especially and other people on YT as-well who've made great detailed vidoes on this Rifle . One thing maybe most of the viewer's here don't know Ohio
    Ordinance 's HCAR was first shown by Larry Vickers channel *Vickers tactical* almost a decade ago . Again absolutely fell in love with the beast the first time i saw it 🍻 .

  • @woesiohans
    @woesiohans Год назад +61

    2m subscribers later, its kind of charming that Ian and crew still forget to check levels sometimes 🥰

  • @dmitryb9752
    @dmitryb9752 Год назад +1

    Excellent video and excellent choice of intro music Ian! Semper Fi!

  • @davidjordan697
    @davidjordan697 Год назад +11

    Saw you in the Irish DPM and having never heard anything about the HCAR before was wondering if Ireland had adopted a new rifle.

    • @gloin10
      @gloin10 Год назад +2

      No, Ireland has not "...adopted a new rifle."
      The only move in that area was to restore some of the FN FALs held in storage to service as Designated Marksman Rifles, to be issued to the spotter of a sniper team.

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 Год назад

      ​@gloin10 yes, and talking from friends in the army, those FN FAL DMR conversions were not successful because the Department of Defence purchased standard FAL parts for the bolt and receivers of the rifles, which are not condusive to consistent accurate marksmanship. They should've bought National Match parts (as advised by the Army) but that would've cost more money. And if there's one thing the Irish Department of Defence is infamous for, it's spending as little as money as possible.

  • @hanktorrance6855
    @hanktorrance6855 Год назад +7

    Love their modern take on the BAR sort of a what would browning do, and it comes off very nicely!

  • @patrikhjorth3291
    @patrikhjorth3291 Год назад +94

    So this is what the Combat Rifle of Fallout 4 would look like, if it was made in the real world.
    A while ago, Ian showed us the 10mm pistol. What's next, the standard laser rifle?
    I'm up for it.

    • @silverbladeTE
      @silverbladeTE Год назад +13

      Combat shotgun! take a PPSH, and.... ;)

    • @Qaianna
      @Qaianna Год назад +18

      'Here we have the AER 12 laser rifle. Most of you are familiar with the AER 9 since that's the standard issue and more rugged, but the 12 was issued to specialist units before the Great War. Now, most of these have degraded, but Mick and Ralph have restored this unit to almost new condition. Note the focusing crystal is new as the originals were sadly scavenged to repair other rifles ... '

    • @silverbladeTE
      @silverbladeTE Год назад +8

      @@Qaianna ah, good ol' "New Vegas" ;)
      and ++ props for knowing your "Fallout" lore!! :)

    • @fruitbat4429
      @fruitbat4429 Год назад +5

      Amen. An assault rifle which looks like a mucked about Lewis gun - ick! An assault rifle whih looks like a HCAR - cool!

    • @silverbladeTE
      @silverbladeTE Год назад +2

      @@fruitbat4429 yeah that weapon was ugly, dumb and made no sense :(
      as some kind of actual machine gun for power armour/super mutants it might be ok?
      but it had nothing to do with the "assault rifles" of game lore
      and it's stats sucked
      and like about all the firearms way WAY to big and clunky especially when modded
      10mm modded was like a frikkin joke!
      Sigh

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Год назад +2

    My standard version OOW Bar shoots sub MOA. Recoil from the 30-06 is like a .22lr in that heavy gun especially since I have a big muzzle brake on it. The 30round mags really make them a lot of fun and I think something that can go head to head with the Bren.

  • @davydatwood3158
    @davydatwood3158 Год назад +1

    Loved the storytelling in the intro, that was awesome!

  • @HillyMammoth
    @HillyMammoth Год назад +6

    Big shout to all my Irish collectively having an aneurysm because Ian somehow got his hands on some paddyflage.

  • @Steelcity77
    @Steelcity77 Год назад +4

    The HCAR is on the top of my must have list.
    Great video, thanks!

  • @andrewcombe8907
    @andrewcombe8907 Год назад +2

    Forget the weapon. That Paddy Cam is awesome.

  • @forrest225
    @forrest225 Год назад +3

    Very cool black tip demo at the end! If anything it shows how impressive armor has become. Level IV plates are surprisingly affordable for how capable they are.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon Год назад +27

    According to family legend, sometime around 1958 my grandfather (who was a member of one of the U.S. Army Reserve's competitive shooting teams at the time) needed to run a water line from a newly drilled well to his house. To do this, so the story goes, he dug a trench between the well and one of the house's concrete foundation walls, then used a sandbagged M1903 Springfield and a handful of Cartridges, Armor Piercing, Caliber .30, M2 to drill a hole in the wall. He _may_ have inadvertently assassinated the furnace with the shot that finally penetrated the wall.
    As with all legends, I can offer no hard evidence that this one is true, although we did find a partly used box of 1950s-vintage M2 ammunition in his sock drawer when he moved to assisted living a few years ago... ;)

  • @DeusExMachina_TX
    @DeusExMachina_TX Год назад +21

    Just got an HCAR recently myself, they’re a neat gun! Interesting to learn about the impetus that brought it to market.
    A quick comment, if using OOW HCAR mags, they will lock open on an empty mag. If you look at them, they have a rectangular cut made on the back of the mag that interfaces with the hold open mechanism. If using surplus BAR mags, that cut is obviously not there, so you don’t get bolt hold open on an empty mag. I’m curious to find out if making a similar cutout in surplus BAR mags will work properly with the bolt hold open mechanism. I’ll be trying it soon!

    • @terrorform242
      @terrorform242 Год назад +1

      are they picky about ammo? a few videos out there on YT show some malfunctions which i assume were ammo related or possibly a surplus mag issue.

    • @DeusExMachina_TX
      @DeusExMachina_TX Год назад

      @@terrorform242 I honestly have not had enough time behind the gun shooting different types of ammo to know just yet. I got a few hundred rounds of PPU 150gr soft point ammo, and that seems to be doing fine in my limited use.

  • @Blastie550
    @Blastie550 Год назад +1

    Incredible video Ian, such a great presentation 😊

  • @chrisbennett594
    @chrisbennett594 Год назад +3

    That intro was actually fire. Especially if you know the background to the episode and his gear for this episode

  • @darrylpioch2055
    @darrylpioch2055 Год назад +6

    .30-06 AP flying through 3/8ths of ar500 steel is impressive. I'd have never guessed that. That's a 117-year old infantry cartridge defeating basically level 4 armor

  • @John-ro3vu
    @John-ro3vu Год назад +2

    OOW is right up the road from me, cool to see their stuff on the channel

  • @kelevra558
    @kelevra558 2 месяца назад

    Could not agree more Ian. I bought mine almost 4 years ago now. Mines black with an eotech hybrid optic system. 5× on the magnifier. I went through the entire weapon and polished every single friction surface to a mirror shine. Aftermarket charging handle, magpul stock, custom one off 3d printed grip, bunch of good good stuff. Its taken the spot of my SCAR 20s of my favorite rifle. I was gonna go the Noreen route, i wanna say BR36?? Might be called something different. However im already a big fan of O.O. and wanted to spend my incredibly hard earned dollars with them. Their customer service is bar none....no pun intended....and i just love that. Any company that has a policy like they do, earns my business every time. Same with Sig. I also own a Sig 716i and m400. DMR is where i lived when i served, thats where ill continue to stay. Mossburg pistol grip on my back, bangin on the long gun. OORAH!!!!!

  • @1ntwndrboy198
    @1ntwndrboy198 Год назад +55

    I always wondered what a bar would look like with a grenade launcher on it .👍✌️

    • @BeltFedSelfDefense
      @BeltFedSelfDefense Год назад +19

      You monster. The m203 railed version would fit.

    • @gohunt001-5
      @gohunt001-5 Год назад +4

      That would likely be the Falchion rifle from The Order 1886
      And yes it's as cursed as it sounds

    • @Chaosrain112
      @Chaosrain112 Год назад +7

      I feel like you've got enough real estate on that chonker to put one on each side of the foregrip

    • @alun7006
      @alun7006 Год назад +6

      ​@@Chaosrain112 203 on the right, Masterkey shotgun on the left, Zip22 underneath.

    • @BeltFedSelfDefense
      @BeltFedSelfDefense Год назад +4

      @@alun7006 grip pod underneath, zip22 mounted on a 45 angle offset mount from the top

  • @woonsockettruthseeker9009
    @woonsockettruthseeker9009 Год назад +21

    My absolute favorite rifle of all time. Crazy power. Beautiful firearm. Saving my pennies to buy 1

    • @Illkilla1984
      @Illkilla1984 Год назад +7

      Better save a lot. The price jumped up a grand in a couple years

    • @vicdiaz5180
      @vicdiaz5180 Год назад +1

      They’re almost 5k but if you could get your hands on one cherish it, because a lot of us will envy you! 👍🏽

    • @flawless_Cowboy
      @flawless_Cowboy Год назад +5

      Pls don't buy a 5k gun brother stack your bread and buy a house 💀💀

  • @peterlowell7963
    @peterlowell7963 Год назад +1

    I absolutely ❤️❤️❤️ the intro. Thank you!

  • @JustSomeGuy117
    @JustSomeGuy117 Год назад

    I’m so happy you got around to doing this rifle

  • @evilpebble
    @evilpebble Год назад +18

    Some audio issues on this one.

  • @kalbs89
    @kalbs89 Год назад +6

    I love the concept and the final design, I’d love to have one

  • @Cup_70
    @Cup_70 Год назад +1

    That intro was great. You make for a great BARtender.

  • @kilcar
    @kilcar 10 месяцев назад +1

    My friend Martin, retired professor at SOCC College, Ashland, Oregon and now passed on, carried the BAR during the Korean era. He was 6'4 and 240, and he said it " shook his eye teeth..." to fire it.

  • @hessex1899
    @hessex1899 Год назад +33

    "Only based rifles are interesting." - Townsend Wheelin

    • @craigragain5678
      @craigragain5678 Год назад +5

      *folksy guitar sounds*

    • @somuchnope2
      @somuchnope2 Год назад +2

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one dealt irreparable damage by seeing those ads too much

    • @hessex1899
      @hessex1899 Год назад +1

      @@craigragain5678 "And that's the way it is"

  • @xanderburns1332
    @xanderburns1332 Год назад +4

    That intro had me thinking I was watching administrative results. you got to do this more Ian

    • @rollastudent
      @rollastudent Год назад +2

      I think that’s who he borrowed the HBAR from
      Nevermind his had a different paint job, but they did do a video about it together

  • @finoxb944
    @finoxb944 Год назад +1

    That thing is so ridiculous and I absolutely love it! Nice video.

  • @Velthrex
    @Velthrex Год назад +1

    Really cool intro Ian!
    Also that gun really looks the Ohio Ordnance

  • @resultedchutoy3353
    @resultedchutoy3353 Год назад +3

    Just wanted to say Ian, that I've been watching your content since at least 2016. Once I found out about the HCAR back in... 2017? I was curious if you'd ever would cover it, and now that There's been this 'resurgence' of interest surrounding the HCAR, I'm glad to see you FINALLY cover this INSANELY expensive but insanely cool firearm. I hope that with more attention surrounding this particular firearm, it'll drive the cost of the weapon down, because last I checked on there website, there's like a waiting list for a couple years ahead in line, and they also run anywhere from 5K-8K MSRP. Its just ludicrously expensive but damn would I love to own one.

  • @rilesmattix5217
    @rilesmattix5217 Год назад +253

    With how hard core the military is going with battle rifles, I feel like in an alternate universe someone could've gotten the military to pick this up lmao
    Edit; lol I'm just joking you guys haha

    • @Stephen85
      @Stephen85 Год назад +13

      I mean it would work just fine.

    • @dawsongranger4940
      @dawsongranger4940 Год назад +17

      @@Stephen85 Besides cost and the disassembly being ludicrously complex

    • @aaronorr5586
      @aaronorr5586 Год назад +9

      @@rewrite1239 The Military knew the 6.8 SPC would not be able to do what they wanted, hence the .308 Action size rifle with a dual component cartridge case design that could handle 80,000 PSI easily and be capable of going up to 100,000 PSI before entering over-pressure range. Using a hardened tungsten core inside the 6.8 diameter shell so when it hits XSAPI it peels the copper jacket back and the tungsten core punches a neat hole through the .30-06 AP rated plates 100% of the time on the first shot.

    • @Supercohboy
      @Supercohboy Год назад +12

      A little birdie told me that an overwhelmingly successful alien invasion, followed by a human rebellion, would make for precisely the circumstances needed for this design to be procured :^)

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Год назад +10

      They really should have entered one of these in .270 for the Army's 6.8 competition.
      Just to make a point.

  • @twistedsaltypretzel7727
    @twistedsaltypretzel7727 Год назад +1

    That was a great intro Ian!

  • @patrickturner6878
    @patrickturner6878 Год назад +1

    "Hey, we have all these factory seconds laying around that could be useful. What do we do with them?"
    "Tacticool the BAR?"

  • @Phil-ey6yh
    @Phil-ey6yh Год назад +3

    I've always wanted one of these just because, and this is the definition of a "just because" rifle

  • @jamesjanson6129
    @jamesjanson6129 Год назад +2

    Nice to see the Irish "Paddyflage" cammo pattern making an international appearance on Forgotten Weapons!

  • @ericmitchell985
    @ericmitchell985 Год назад +2

    I've only watched the intro, and I already know this is going to be awesome.

  • @spencerwilkie4218
    @spencerwilkie4218 Год назад

    Yessss!!!! The final chapter to his BAR series!!!!! I've beeeeen waiting so long

  • @marklandwehr7604
    @marklandwehr7604 Год назад +3

    I love all these retro designs being brought into the modern era using computer-aided design computer numerically controlled Machining it seems like there must be many opportunities with these great classic designs to make modern rifles that do what they should do thank-you column another great episode very interesting please I hope you continue making more they're very insightful and thanks again maybe sometime you'll come here to Alaska and enjoy our wonderful place to go shooting

  • @stephenrickstrew7237
    @stephenrickstrew7237 Год назад +4

    John Browning is Smiling 😊

  • @AlbandAquino
    @AlbandAquino Год назад +1

    This is intended to be on the humorous side, but I just love how Ian is giving everyone the finger at 10:21 😁
    Nice review of a modernized frame. 👌🏼👍🏼

  • @JohnPaul-yf9xd
    @JohnPaul-yf9xd Год назад

    It's great to see You use these machines!

  • @muhughu
    @muhughu Год назад +15

    This rifle really encompasses the phrase "because it's fun" well.

    • @zchris87v80
      @zchris87v80 Год назад

      The same reason to buy a Saiga 12 when there are countless knockoffs out there. Something about the original is great.

  • @davidburke8682
    @davidburke8682 4 месяца назад +3

    Best gun youtuber of all time no disrespect to the others they are all great but this is the og right here

  • @CamoGuy76239
    @CamoGuy76239 Год назад +1

    The intro was awesome! 😎
    Neat rifle!

  • @justanothergunnerd8128
    @justanothergunnerd8128 Год назад +1

    The local gun shop had one on the wall - it is a heavy beast. If they were cheaper I would consider one as a fun, weird plinker.

  • @seanodwyer8205
    @seanodwyer8205 Год назад +3

    I'm in the Irish Navy! Love the Irish DMP, the Irish Army MPs may want to talk to you tho

  • @ix8750
    @ix8750 Год назад +3

    YO that intro was awesome!

  • @robertibert9269
    @robertibert9269 Год назад

    Excellent post Ian!

  • @dracxiometal_drolf8157
    @dracxiometal_drolf8157 Год назад

    Ngl I've been hoping for this exact video
    I've been curious about your opinion on the hcar

  • @thetalesofdaneandco
    @thetalesofdaneandco Год назад +6

    0:25 An absolutely fantastic transition.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 Год назад +6

    For me this is the gun that if I had to have one rifle this would be it.

  • @Predalien195
    @Predalien195 Год назад +1

    I had an HCAR for a short time. About 2 years or so which is short for me and gun ownership. I paid about $3,600 for it. Had been eyeing a SCAR-H which at the time was about $2,800-ish but came across one of these instead and bought it. Honestly, a very well built gun, the example I had was quite reliable. Magazines were the tough part to source and quite expensive and of course .30-06 was never "cheap" but surplus M2 ball was readily available at the time so kept costs down a bit.
    Definitely not worth the asking price in a semi auto only format. In full auto, I've been told it manages the recoil quite well and in that role it may be worth something. Kind of like the Kriss Vector being just a cool showpiece in semi auto only. Anyhow, I do have fond memories of the gun in general but somebody wanted it far more than I did and ended up parting ways. I pretty much got away from the more modern tactical rifles like that after the fact and ultimately was far more interested in their regular BAR replicas. But didn't want to spend the money for something.

  • @donjones4719
    @donjones4719 Год назад +1

    Your opening sequence is absolute genius.

  • @Tallmios
    @Tallmios Год назад +5

    This video seems so much more light-hearted than normal - just plain fun from the intro montage to Jordan's remark to Ian's giggle. Also, do you have a new telescope camera?

  • @boingkster
    @boingkster Год назад +7

    I've got a solid bar for the future BAR.

  • @robshirewood5060
    @robshirewood5060 Месяц назад

    I imagined a modernised version of the FN/FAL as used by the British Army as the L1A1 SLR from that very familiar cocking handle, later replaced by a round knob for faster cocking in British use, i really like the HCAR design and layout, would be good as with the SLR if it had a straight 30 round magazine as used on the L1A1 from the L4A4 Bren in 7.62.
    looks like a pleasure to shoot. I got to fire a privately owned SLR years after they went out of service with the British Army i could happily carry a HCAR instead of L85. Nice video thanks for showing this.

  • @johnvillafranca6188
    @johnvillafranca6188 Год назад

    Excellent video. That gun will be on my list to buy.

  • @ASlickNamedPimpback
    @ASlickNamedPimpback Год назад +7

    BAR comeback for WW3?