What you want to know about arcade joysticks
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👍👍👍👏👏👏EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!
Finally an instructional video that hasn’t been dumbed down with music over the person talking. KUDOS!🏆
IL now offers a 5 pin pcb version, which enhances performance like 10 times lol, and worthy of tournament play. They are a bit expensive, but IL is a well-respected brand by us old school competitive gamers.
That’s pretty interesting, in the fighting game community I’ve mostly seen people use exclusively Sanwa stuff in their sticks if they want good quality, but now I know there are quite a bit of things to consider if you want he best experience for yourself
Sanwa..it s like windows..they are by default in almost all stick and many arcade stuff.
My first arcade feeling were on capcom cabinet,after neo geo with LS 40 seimitsu and after sanwa.
But now,after many years on sanwa (with springs 2,4lbs) I prefer LS 32 or LS 56 to Kof and shmup.
I didn't know Elon Musk was into joysticks!
Thanks a bunch. I have always gone for Sanwa as I can change the gate and use 4lb springs. The JLF's always feel like a stick should.
thanks for the info elon musk
Good. I'm not the only one to notice discount Elon Musk.
im dead now
it's Elon Musk if he never made it out of the arcade and had to survive on candy
Elon Musk combined with the guy from Streets of Fire!
@@saoirsemurray1310 This is disrespectful to this guy, he looks way better than Elon. He didn't age amazingly.
I am looking for a joystick/lever. However there are a few things it needs to do.
-Only move left to right.
-Hold itself in the last place it was left. (No snapback to center once let go of)
Honestly it needs to function more like a mixer fader or a typical lever. If you want a perfect example of what I am looking for check out the lever stick on O.N.G.E.K.I. it is a japanese arcade game.
That looks pretty much like an arcade gear shifter mounted sideways. That would probably be your best bet.
That's quite the selection. I'd never stop making things with so much stuff
Really appreciate your videos. Not a lot out there that go into the detail.
i like the baseball bat sticks. always hated the gumball sticks like the ones used on stock double dragon cabinets. sf2 champion edition used super happ sticks i believe. they were the baseball bat. very easy to do moves with that stick.
Excellent video. I'm just getting into this stuff, and I had no idea there were so many options.
very informative, thank you. I ordered the mag-sticks. 2 of them because when playing robotron 2048 for instance, I don't want two different sticks.
Glad to be of service! Happy gaming.
how is the short throw working for you? did you eventually got used to that feeling? Ive heard they feel stiff
Great video dude still learning but can cross joysticks off my list now, thanks!
Great video for a starter like me, thx.
Ζippy is my favourite.
Cheap,durable and good on every game.
If you need to replace the parts for Competition sticks, you can swap out Eurojoystick parts, which are sold separately at focusattack.com. Actually, you guys should look at IL. They use higher quality actuators and pivots and ship with actual Cherry-brand micro-switches instead of the knockoffs the Happs ship with.
Agreed somewhat Jesus, but focusattack gears more towards Japanese/Korean items and won't have all Americas parts.
That blue happ your favorite looks good I loved a bat top when I played metal slug 2 on the neo geo cabinet I may look into that
We will also be carrying IL joysticks before the end of the month, it is an even higher quality joystick.
Is there anyone or any company that sells or that can make a legit american build? The happ joystick and concave buttons??
Thank you for a very informative video.
Really informative dude. I like your videos, building one myself. Quick question : with a fight stick and Pandora box, would you prefer 8 or 4 way? Especially when I play fighting games like street fighter? Thanks again for the video.
Paul Constable your gonna have to go with an 8 way if you want to play any fighting games. it will be more challenging to play the older style games like PAC Man though.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Ultimarc servo stick would be a good choice. Easily switchable between 4 and 8 way. Also has optional octagonal restrictor
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Retro Active Arcade I ordered the pandora dx 3000 wireless and had them switch the controllers to sanwa. I had them set the joysticks to 4 way for the games I want. I didn’t catch the name of the last joystick that you reviewed that has the ability to change from 4 to 8 and back again easily. Especially the one that you lift up on it to change it.I understand the game Q*bert needs a diagonal joystick. I’m confused. How would I do that on my Sanwa joysticks or the last one that you showed?
Here are the joysticks I prefer to play--
Fighting games (except the Neo-Geo ones): Sanwa JLF with a bat top, 2lb spring, and Kowal actuator.
Neo-Geo: Seimitsu LS-32 with square gate
All the rest (platformers, shoot-em-ups, beat-em-ups, etc.): Seimitsu LS-32 with round gate
just ordered a LS-40 Seimitsu lever and will be installing it in a Razer Pantera Evo. This is my first time doing anything like this. My question is do I need the M4x10mm screws to screw the LS-40 into the SE mounting plate? Or can I use the screws that already come in the stock Sanwa JLF mounting plate?
@@rebranded1248 You can just use the screws that came with the Sanwa JLF mounting plate.
Also, when you're using the Seimitsu LS-40, you'll do more engage than throw...
@@RedRanger2001 Thanks for replying. May I ask do you use a square or octo gate with the Kowal actuator? I read that the Kowal actuator does not work correctly with a JLF square gate and needs a octo gate to activate the switches properly. Has that been your experience too?
So if my bartop already has zippy sticks (bit worn out) what would be close to the happ feel but fit my machine?
@Retro Active Arcade
I'm thinking of building a control panel specifically for playing Defender, as a controller or computer keyboard just doesn't get close to the kind of control you get from the original arcade layout.
I'm a kind of stuck with the joystick though.
The original 2 way Wico sticks are long gone, and although there are a couple of places that sell repros, they're EXPENSIVE - like 8 times the price of a J-Stick expensive.
Is there anything you recommend to use instead or should I just bite the bullet and pay for a Wico repro?
No iL? Pity, I have two and they're great.
I asked the same question I have a two player 8 way setup and they are great for 8 way...not so much for 4 way. But I have a dedicated one player 4 way panel with a short shaft Zippy set to 4 way and it is fantastic
Will the mag stick work with my EGstarts circuit board and buttons? Its a 5 pin connector...running
retro pie ...do i need any additional wires etc..if so tell me what I need and ill order it from you guys on your site...THX
Really good video, well explained.
I want to replace my Pandora arcade stick buttons and joystick with sanwa's, can you point out which ones I would need from your website? I noticed you have several different options in size, 30 mm 24 mm Etc, I just want to make sure I get the correct ones to use for my Pandora 5 arcade system.thank you...
I'm installing my control panel now in my first arcade build. I got the suzohapp joystick and I noticed when i move the joystick its not clicking all of the microswitches. Is this a problem? Also, not really sure what the difference is between the 4 and 8 way? Not sure which one I got and if i need one over the other. Thanks for any info and all the informative videos.
Can a Happ Competition stick fit in a Pandoras Box 4s+ as a replacement or would I have to modify anything on it?
really informative, thank you.
Great 👍 video.
I have seen cabs with the sticks mounted without seeing the fixing bolts, what is the best way to mount the joystick in this manner?
this is a great video, thanks for doing it
I got the super happ looking ones except from another buyer and they are not adjustable. In fact I had to do some crazy routing and putty work to get them to sit flush.
Curious, I have a custom built Arcade with a Happ Joystick that needs fixing. I was thinking about moving to something that would allow auto switching from 8-way to 4-way, but can't wrap my head around moving to the newer style joysticks that aren't square(ish) like the Happ Competition and would have to bore out the bottom CP.
Can you suggest options that are close to Happ and provide 4 and 8 way switching so that games like Ms Pacman (my all-time favorite game) are easier to play? Thanks and great information from YEARS Ago!
What you really want to know about arcade sticks? They kick ass, they are stylish. You look and sound like a bad ass when you use one. You can customize it most of them to your hearts content. All in all they are bad ass like I said 😁
hi there, what do you recommended for street fighter special power moves? because I bought XCSourse zero delay controllers and I'm struggling with the power moves. Your help will be much appreciated.
The best ones to use are the original ones, Competition Happ joysticks. Work every time!
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Thanks for the reply. Can I replace my XCSourse joystick with the Competition Happ Joystick and it will work fine with XCSourse controllers? or will I have to replace it all?
@@trumpthemessiah1238 it depends on your joystick foot print and depth, or website had all the spec drawings for all our joysticks we sell in their descriptions.
Hey do you know what a Wico p360 joystick is? I’ve heard about it but don’t know much about it
I recently got pandoras nox 6.
But the joy stick has flat spots it feels..i play king of fighter..you cant do smooth u movements.
What joy stick you recommend
The replacement for that is the Sanwa JLF series. The silent JLF is a really good one but very expensive.
he likes the thicker shaft in his big hands
Hi I'm new at this. Just bought a pandora 3d arcade but the joystick is only an 8 way. Need one like this one to go from 8 to 4. Joystick is a 5 wire. Thxs
Go with an genuine Sanwa JLF joystick, it allows you to switch from 4 to 8 way or even buy an 8 way octagonal gate for the bottom. They can be found on our website here: retroactivearcade.ca/collections/japanese-style/products/sanwa-jlf-tp-8yt-joystick
Nice video 👍
Thanks for the info. What is the slandered joy stick for the arc system games?
Which one is the best sanwa joystick
By far the silent JLF
perfect video !! thanks for the great info. do you plan such a video about buttons too ? would be good to know which ones are how loud and clicky and all that..
Yes we already have one, just check out our channel.
the mag-stick costs $25 dlls usd now.
Great video, I was curious have you considered carrying the IL joysticks?
they are next on the list
Hi I got those illuminated joystick from game room solution. I’m haven a difficult time hooking it up... is there an instruction? Thxs
Well first off, Game room solution should be helping you with this. As for connections there should be a 5 wire harness that comes with it, if you flip the joystick upside-down before you connect the harness you can see some letters on the green PCB part of the joystick where the harness connects to. There are 2 spots for this harness, I believe it is the middle one you are going to be using.These letters should tell you what the connections are (L, R, U, D) and it should have an arrow or the word "UP" to tell you the top end of the joystick for installation on your CP. Otherwise install it and then temporarily connect 1 wire at a time testing the direction in your game or menu to determine its direction. If you have a lower end clone version of the stick it may not have any writing on it at all so trial and error will be your only option, without the letters even a diagram wouldn't help you.
Thank you 🙏
Great video, I was interested in the J-Stik Ball-Top but the postage to Australia is double the price of the stick alone which is ridiculous. I am currently using a zippy stick, which i have no issue with BTW. But I was wondering if there is a way to add the twist function as the joystick spins freely? I am running a mame and a jamma machine and totally love Heavy Barrel but without this twist function it is not the same. Is there a way to have this feature as none of the sticks you mentioned have it?
North Southy good point that’d be optimal for games like arkanoid too
just saw this today. I don't see your LED j/s that goes through all colors in your website.
They were discontinued for a while. We will order them on our next order in a week or so. :)
If i'm using 3/4" plywood for my control panel, sounds like you'd recommend using the competition happ stick correct? I bought an seimitsu ls-32 but the shaft is incredibly short, and idk if a long shaft would still work well for what i'm intending.
It definatley will, you can buy a shaft extender for your joystick as well that would fix your problem.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa ok thank you, and would it be necessary to rout out 1/4" of the wood for mount a flat plate, or would the 3/4" with the extended shaft suffice? Thank you so much!
Thanks for a great video.
Do you know how to fix micro switch spring for a QuickJoy JetFighter for Commodore/Amiga/Atari?
Especially, where can I get those springs from?
I'd really appreciate pointing to the right direction.
I am sorry I do know how to fix it specifically but you should be able to find one on the Suzo Happ website.
Are Suzo Happ and Sanwa Denshi joysticks interchangeable?
The bolt patterns are the same but the Suzo Happ joysticks are much larger/thicker below the Control Panel so it may not fit in some situations. Depends where you are using them, if it is for a custom arcade that has unlimited space under the control panel you should be fine. If it is to put into a fight stick it will not fit. Also, a Sanwa stick has a five pin harness that connects to it, the Suzo Happ joystick uses microswitches so you will have to cutt off that connector and add .187 connectors to each wire and daisy chain the ground wire. In short it is not a straight swap, it does have the same hole pattern in the base plate but you will have to modify your wires going to the joysticks.
What's the name of the gel looking ones with bubbles?
Why not sell Korean sticks? They are quite expensive compared to all of those though.
Good video. What would you say is the highest quality stick for Switch at the moment? Thanks.
Switchable, 4 to 8 way? That would be the MagStik +, but it is still a bit cumbersome.
which one would you buy for beatem ups, fighting and shmups?
pedro gonzalez I would go with the Sanwa JLF joysticks.
Definitely I like the competition microswitches joistick to play The king of fighter's. I tried the Sanwa and I didn't like it.
What stick did you you prefer?
@@-shibuya- xarcade, usa style, I think korean style is similar
Hi, Could I buy a joystick for Atari/C64 wired with a DB9 Connector, I always seem to play Arkanoid and the like, I'd like a joystick that I could mount myself in a wooden box with up, down, left, right & 8 way 2 x paddle switches for bat control and Auto fire for shoot em ups, your recommendations please.
I am not sure where you would get something specific for that other than Ebay or Amazon. You can get adapter for that I'm sure
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Thanks for replying back so soon, I found out from a computer retro repairer friend of mine you can't have paddles (potetionemeters) with Spectrum games something to do with the analogue signal, but I can have auto fire.
Apparantly you can possibly map it in a clever way with C64 but not Spectrum, only Atari 2600 and the like.
@@pcroom34 You can possibly use a 149 Way rotary joystick from Ultimarc or Suzo Happ. The problem with all these separate technologies is getting them to work with one encoder for your adapter. I'm sure it is possible but you would have to hack a few cables and controls together to see if they work.
no IL joysticks?
does the happ stick have a square gate when used in 8-way?
The Happ sticks are 8 way only, the is no gate in this stick.
No Euro I.L.? It's my favorite 8 way joystick
Are there any sticks that give any sort of 360 degree radius feel, maybe 8 way pressure sensors or does 8 way already work like that? I'm looking mainly for smash Bros ultimate, but also for camera rotation in other games.
An 8 way joystick works 360 degrees like what is in any arcade out there. If you are looking for something more initiative and or sensitive to all and any direction, then there is the U360 from Ultimarc available as well.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Amazing, thank you so much for your timely response! I'm very excited to be able to move on with this ambitious project with the helpful information you've provided! :)
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Is the UltraStik 360 the same as U360?
@@gamesonastick yes it is
can you swap a hori hayabusa with a happ competition ? I used to use the happ as a teen and liked them
The Happ is too big to fit into most joystick cases they make now.
You'd have to make a custom-made joystick or buy an old-style MAS joystick to get a case big enough to accommodate a Happ lever.
Awesome! I use an IL joystick for my custom fightstick, and it feels great for fighters. Way better than Suzo Happ. I used to use a Hori Hayabusa before switching. I just like the feel of the western joystick more. By the way, can you show how to put Cherry D44X microswitches in a Hori Hayabusa? Some people have told me it works great but I'm not entirely sure how to wire it.
sanwa jlf for fighters and beat em ups
srimitsu ls32 for shoot em ups bullet hell and run&guns
happ comp pro for american western arcade games
:)
Completely false. Both Seimitsu and Sanwa are used for fighters. Either joystick can be used for all types of games.
@@keithbridges2144 yeah but thats my personal preference ^^
How would you recommend to install one of these joysticks into a wood control panel?
AdamTeaParty: just making sure to use a router to embed the controller down into thicker wooden panels. I'm actually redoing my control panel for my four player today.
iwonderifthisislegal I've seen that. And then you screw the stick into the thinner wood? I've seen ppl actually use blocks of wood to put underneath the bracket and screw those in. How are you going about it? Also I'm just starting out...... Do you recommend a stick and button set? I've been looking at Amazon Canada and can't make a decision.
AdamTeaParty so the wood for my control panel and all of my arcade as a whole is MDF board. It's nice and 30 especially since I have a 4 player cap that I built. I have a 42 inch LCD monitor inside so I wanted it wide. For the control panel it's using the same MDF and that's 3/4 inch thick. I took my router down into the wood by about 1/4. That still leaves about 3/8 wood. The joysticks have a base size of about 3 in by 3 and 1/2 in. Having four bolts screwed down into that 3/8 wood is just fine. I will give you the link to The Lunchbox forms where I have my build posted. So you can get an idea of what I'm building. forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/45984-my-four-player-build/?tab=comments#comment-288887
So the joysticks with the built in PCB will work with a 56 pin Jamma harness?
Sure they will, you still have to splice the wires though.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa
Thank you for responding quickly, I've been wanting to try the zero delay sticks. I'll be ordering 2 today.
@@brooksgarner9289 sounds good, glad to help! We will ship it out first thing on Monday morning!
dude looks like the musk of joysticks
Which joy stick would you recommend for a tekken player?
Leroy Lichtenberger I would recommend the competition happ or the Sanwa JLF. The Happ is like the old school street fighter arcade joysticks and the Sanwa JLF are for competition style fight sticks that are very sensitive for special moves etc. Depends which you are trying to achieve.
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i am making a bartop arcade raspberry pi 3 what buttens have no delay and joystick i want it to feel like the real thing
homes if you want the real thing any button or joystick with microswicths will work fine. The delay your talking about would be in the encoder you choose. Use an IPac 2 and you will be ahead of the game first time around.
thanks
I looking for a plexi ball with a skull inside..exist?
Thanks
I haven't seen them readily available, I have seen custom one off designs out there in a few places. Best bet is Ebay or Arcade Controls Forum.
Sounds like a cool idea
@@johndewberryiii9925 since..I seen some on a video..but probably a handmade stuff with resin.
Technicly it s seems not complexe to make.
Hey Casey great video. I just wanted to see if there was a better quality joystick that you can think of that would be easy to install into my X-arcade Tankstick? (no real cutting and modding would be best)
I'm surprised you didn't mention Crown sticks. They use a rubber grommet instead of springs and are completely circular rather than having a solid gate that lock in specific directions. A lot of Tekken players use them.
Disagree, not worth the mention this guy knows his stuff
What is your opinion on them in relation to Happ or IL sticks?.....
@@jboyle3991 😂
i like a big bat top shaft myself, Happ all the way
How buy now please help im India
bast joystick 8 way
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Sanwa joystick are super soft. No feed back\pressure. .Not for me. I was disappointed because everyone recommends them.
whats a good joy stick for tron and after burner?
Unfortunately, a flight stick. nothing will compare to it.
kind of like the first one in this video?
Glen Dederick yes, that would be a good entry level one
id like a good one. i try not to buy things twice, so what would be a good i wont want to replace later?
also, whats a good driving wheel to use that would work with a usb?
I will forever now refer to myself as a Cananadian.
Slang Yung 😂😂😂
5:01 Cananadian dollars?
XD
25:34 sorEy
just sanwa JLF, 20 bucks, for all your needs
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LOL "phrasing"
I'm so sorry to say this, but at 1st glance you're looks like Elon Musk's brother to me...
Anyway, great info! I personally love Sanwa JLF and Hori Hayabusa :D
I thought he was.
"and this one is the seimitsu"... Lol wich one? ls-32, 40, 33, 62, 56?
Sorry, we currently only carry the LS-32-10 and 10-S, the LS-32 10 is the one being shown.
talk too much
Thanks for the excellent information.