Super Ténéré - The Freedomachine Review
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2022
- In this video we will take a full tour of the Super Ténéré and touch on its history, differences between Gen 1 and Gen 2, the engine, handling, rider aids, riding position and its aspect as a Freedomachine. Needless to say that if you like the video please subscribe and hit the like button.
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I bought a basic 2013 ST. Put about 7,000 miles on it and the only complaint I had was cramps in my right hand for the lack of a cruise control. Upgraded to a 2015, ES. Have now put about 30,000 miles on it. I used to believe Honda was a Japanese word for "Bullet proof". Now believe that Yamaha means, "More reliable than Honda". Great machine. I ride 700 miles per day at age 70. Used to ride a Gold Wing but this is every bit the bike with much wider range of function.
Thank for watching ☺️ Absolutely! Yamaha since 10 years is equal or or superior to honda when it comes to reliability.
700 miles per day?!!
McCruise control, call it a day
Think it’s a good idea to buy a used 2015 super tenere with 40k miles? The dealer it is at is trust worthy.
I'm on my 3rd Tenere. Bought my first in 2011, my second in 201 and my present in March 2021. I have covered in excess of 200k klms and have never had an oz of trouble. Consumables are all I have ever spent money on. Ideal all round motorcycle.
Thanks for watching ☺️
Nicely presented, thanks! Bought my 2015 XT1200ZE 13 months ago with 27,000 miles on it, 44,500 miles now. Ridden it around Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana and I love it!
Love my S10. Thanks for reinforcing my decision to forego all the issues with GS, KTM Adventure, Tiger and buy the "boring" Yamaha that just keeps going and going. For work I've been riding a GS and a Pan American quite a bit, but I'm always so happy to get back to my Super Ténéré.
Thanks for watching ☺️
I bought a 2013 s10 last year and I love it. I recently did the clutch basket upgrade and got the ecu flashed by 2wdw and it feels incredible now. I liked it before but now it’s even better in my opinion. Looking forward to all the places I go with my super tenere.
Yes I really wanted the community know that it is an awesome bike with some minor modifications. I'm glad to hear that it was not only my impression.
Best motorcycle review I have seen till date! It had all the information I needed. Well done.
Thanks for watching and the awesome feedback 😊
I don't have an S10 but have always been a fan. I've watched every Super Tenere video on youtube and this has to be the best Super Tenere Review I've seen yet. Excellent Content!
Thank you so much for your words and for watching 😊
I just rode mine across Canada and back; what a machine. The bike does not feel any heavier than a Gs1200 or any other adv bike - the bike feels and performs way better than 'the paper puts it'. My butt dyno says is Fast and Stable. I ride it off-road in places my Dr650 shouldn't be and I make it home safe and sound. This bike isn't for everyone, it takes a big personality to ride it!
Thanks for watching 😊 It is an amazing bike indeed.
Great job on the video 👍
I bought a 2014 XT1200ZE last year with 70,000km on it, I've put 14,000km on it since. I love it.
It runs like a train 💪
great review, I've had mine from new in 2011 and have loved every minute of it, enjoying your videos keep them comming
Thanks for watching ☺️
Just got a super T delivered yesterday, my first bike (I'm retired) just past my test its a 2011 world crosser model. Your video was very useful so thankyou, from the Scottish Highlands.
Thank you for watching 😊
My 2013 S10 is in for it's 90 000km service with Yamaha - TBS & ignition coils being sorted out as well.. What a wonderful machine, can't wait to get it back. Thank you for a great review!
Thanks for watching 😊
Great review thanks. ive had my gen 2 for a year now and absolutely love everything about her.
Thanks for watching ☺️
Thanks for this great review!
Excellent, authoritative review. I bought a 2020 Super T two weeks ago and rode it from New Mexico back home to Kentucky. Magnificent bike. Thank you for the encouragement!
You will love it. Thank you for the support ☺️
I totally agree with your rewiev..... Done with my 2012 140k km, and with few upgrades ( ACU, risers, seat and Ohlins) its a joy to ride :)
Great Review! I bought a used S10 Gen 1 instead of the new Gen 2. It was a mistake that has cost me some grief in upgrading. But I do love the bike, and it's low end grunt. The traction control is what sold me on this bike. I never turn it or ABS off. The disadvantages, for me, do not out weigh the advantages. The handle bars and foot pegs are poor. I've had to replace both to comfortably stand on it. I don't understand riders who buy these and immediately want to place a "beak" on the front. I would understand moving the front fender up, which makes far more sense. I've been on this bike for 8 years and it has been a great experience, for the most part. I am 67 and expect someday soon to shift to a trike or at least a Gold Wing, my dirt riding days being over.
Thanks for watching 😊 Gene after upgrades is perfect!
Excellent review. Thank you.
The best review that I saw so far of the super tenere 1200 and I saw loads... Congratulations!
Thanks for watching 😊
brilliant review thanks you
Interesting informative review thanks will probably be my next bike.
Excellent video. I changed to the ST from the BMW and I am very pleased. Reliable, fun to ride in road or dirt. Perfect for Brazil & S America.
Thanks for many explanations videos of this wonderful bike 🏍
Greetings from Panamá 🇵🇦 ✌🏻
Thanks for watching 😊
Great stuff great to see you again..I'm on my 2nd super 10 brilliant machine and so so reliable.
Thanks for watching 😊
Exceptional clear useful review. S10 is amazing bike. Greetings and respect to all from Durango Mexico 🇲🇽
Thanks for watching 😊
Great review!
Got mine just over a year ago, and very happy i did before they stopped production.
Great bike.
Although,it is a bit thirsty!
Thanks for doing the review.
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Thanks for watching ☺️
In 115,000 miles over 2 bikes I average 45-50mpg every tank. I consider that pretty good for a 1200.
You have made a very excellent review. The best I've found on RUclips.
I brought the 2010
model.
An awesome machine. 😊😊
Thank you for watching ☺️
Really nice video Thanks I love my 2013 Tenere
Thanks for watching 😊
Great Video , Thanks !
An excellent review!
Well done.
Just posted this same comment below on a different S10 review.
Looking for as much input as I can find.
Just read through the majority of the comments here from other S10 owners and the word RELIABLE/BULLETPROOF/Carefree are very frequent.
While planning a huge Canadian trip this summer through QC/NL/NS from Maryland, I looked for this kind of mile-crushing, comfortable and BULLETPROOF machine to get me safely there and back. Having seen similar comments for months, I found a 2013 with 10k miles from a dealer I trust completely and started my learning curve on a new bike. Comfort, mileage, handling, quirks, etc. Have ridden less than 500 miles on only a few weekends and got stranded with a shot clutch. Apparently the whole clutch pack is done. Lost a month of riding and cost another $1000.
Crushingly disappointed as my trip is now cancelled and I'm not sure I can now travel far from home without a constant anxiety of WTF else is going to go tits up....
which is the exact opposite of what everyone says and the riding I want to do.
Any comments on whether this is a fluke or if I got the only lemon in the basket of apples?
Thanks for watching the video. Unfortunately at 10k miles you got 100% a lemon. While on the gen 1 the clutch can be noisy I never heard of one going bad at that milage. I'm really sorry.
10/10 quality review !
Thanks for watching ☺️
An awesome overview of this top class machine.. hopefully I’ll see you around in Cork soon…
Thanks for watching ☺️ you're from Cork so?
Yes Sir. I have been watching your trips and videos all the way… I live in Bishopstown right now. I own a Triumph Tiger 800XRT.
Ohh ok I see you have your own channel. Nice interview with Pat. Building that hearse was a unique idea! I'll see you at some event around town☺️
Thanks for the review, very well done. I've watched all your videos and been a member from the beginning, thanks again for the excellent videos. I have a gen 1 since 2016 and love it. Unfortunately, since a year problems with the abs, probably a short circuit in the dashboard, but that will be solved ( abs light stays on ).
It is a motorcycle that you can do a lot on yourself. Stay safe, also for your family in Lithuania. Greetings from the Netherlands
Thanks for watching ☺️ I'm from Italy 😁
Peter, I had the same problem. The frontwheel was not proberly moutet, the little ABS conector was not freely moving. Afterwords every thing was ok.
Greetings from Switzerland
Hans-Jürg
Excellent review and history of the Super Tenere! You did a great job of covering everything! I've owned a 2012 and now own a 2015. I recently bought a KTM 1190 Adventure R. I've ridden MANY different adventure bikes. I can tell you that other brands lie about their specs. My brother has a GS 1200. My Super Tenere has more power despite claims. My brother agrees. It is noticeable. Definitely more power than the Africa Twin. Yes, my KTM 1190 has more power. But not (that) much. The KTM is not that much lighter when you factor changing the exhaust on the Super Tenere can reduce about 12lbs. of weight. The Super Tenere has a metal gas tank whereas other brands use a plastic gas tank. I am probably selling my Super Tenere and keeping my KTM, but it is NOT an easy decision. Nothing wrong with the Tenere, just want a new experience after having ridden my Tenere's for a long time and many miles. Only annoying thing is when holding in the clutch, the gear shift indicator on the dashboard stops displaying what gear you are in. Wish there were a mod that would fix this.
Thanks for watching and the extensive feedback ☺️ Always nice to hear about the experience of other people. The KTM is an outstanding machine.
On the 2018s there is a neutral indicator light besides the gear display I guess they thought about that later on. Also displays the end light on the neutral display bottom left with clutch engaged.
@@charleshill5093 Yes, does the same on the 2015. No changes besides color on 2014 and on models. I'm talking about when one squeezes the hand control of the clutch; it will not show what gear you are in.
Great video thank you!
Thanks for watching 😊
The top to travel with great comfort and huge load capacity. I bought it new in 2010 and it's a First Edition! Wonderful creature!
Great review.
Thanks for watching ☺️
Thank you for this review
Thanks for watching 😊
Wow, klasse Video!
Thank you ☺️
Great video and a very good review of the S10. I had a Gen 1 (new in 2016!) and it was a really great bike. Much better once flashed (much smoother throttle response) and I put a full Arrow system on it. That really improved the mid range performance. I would definitely buy one again, but they aren't that common here in Ireland where the GS seems to be pretty ubiquitous. Pity Yamaha decided not to upgrade the engine to meet Euro 5.
Thanks for watching ☺️ There is one in Lee Honda Cork right now but considering current prices it is not convenient.
Hi. Would love to know about the Flash. It’s a bit twitchy isn’t it ? Any details would be appreciated. Thanks.
@@TheVolumeSociety I got it done at Mototuning.ie in Dublin. Gary Donoghue (top man!) had a couple of goes on it. With the first (standard) flash which removed the gear restrictions, the performance increase was immediately noticeable - like day and night really. But, the throttle was still a bit on and off. He wasn't happy with it and he took the bike back in and custom flashed it and it really helped the twitchy throttle at low speeds. I cannot recommend him highly enough.
Depends where you live but for instance in Ireland Mototuning is good. If taking your bike to a specialized place doesn't work then you can buy modified ECUs from websites such as this one www.off-the-road.de/en/xt-1200z/ecu-restriction-removal/1052/ecu-remapping-yamaha-xt-1200z-super-tenere?c=170
I did not buy from here. My bike was already modified. My feedback is based on trying a bike that didn't have the ECU flash.
@@Freedomachine 😃. Well. I’ve Irish roots but I’m in Toronto. 🇨🇦Thank you Sir !
What a wonderful video❤
Thanks for watching ☺️
Hi I bought my Super Ten three years ago for the specific purpose of long distance touring I am over 6 foot tall and find a lot of motorbikes physically too small and most are uncomfortable I like your review it's very honest and truthful. I do however disagree with your fuel consumption figures. Fully loaded on my regular trips from Spain back to the UK I get an average of anywhere between 5.1 and 5.6 litres per 100km, unloaded and taking it very easy I have achieved 4.6 which I thought was a mistake but it's not uncommon according to some of the forums that I am a member of. I have had nearly 400km out of the tank before filling up on more than one occasion, the bike is standard apart from a set of risers and a taller screen. Love the bike will never sell it.
Thanks for watching ☺️ I did get 4.8l/km fully loaded on the motorway as well. These are declared figures and since it all boils down to riding stile I did not comment on it. If you check previous comments you will see that some will think the exact opposite of what you just wrote.
@@Freedomachine I have just read some of the comments and I am at a loss to understand why some people are finding the Tenere thirsty? maybe I was lucky? great channel I have subscribed
Excellent review you kept my attention through the whole thing I learned a lot about my motorcycle which by the way I have no intention of getting rid of it will probably be my last bike I have a 2018 I figure I've got a long way to go before I wear it out.
Thanks for watching 😊
Never too late to say it's the best bike review I've read. I'm considering acquiring a Super Tenere (it would be the second one) for my commuting and travel purposes. The pity is that is is now discontinued in Europe.
Thanks for your amazing feedback ☺️ A second hand one will be very safe to buy and you won't regret it.
Very nice and detailed review. You got my like mate. Overall a very good bike for the purpose. For the multipurpose I mean. :)
Thank you very much ☺️
@@Freedomachine Anytime mate. Drop by when have time.
Brilliant video, well done! I'm thinking about buying one of these, not sure yet, possibly will go for a Moto Guzzi Stelvio? great to see Ireland also
Good to see you back.
As an owner of a 2014ZE I concur with your appraisal of the SupaTen.
Hope to see more videos from you again.
Thanks for watching ☺️ will do my best to post more stuff but it has to be useful or else I won't do it. This is why it takes me forever.
Very good Video! I got myself last year a Super Tenere from 2012. Just love this bike! Subscribe your Channel, can't wait to see the other Videos. Greetings from Germany! 😎✌🏻
Thanks for watching 😊
The opening footage of mountain roads and passes through craggy rocks, reminds me of the Scottish highlands or perhaps Norway.
Ireland so not far in terms of geologic area. I think they can be very similar.
Nice to see your new video...and what a good review 👍I've got the same bike and I agree with all the things you said. The super tenere is the perfect bike to ride for a long time . No matter of the marketing which one want to sale us GS and other Africa twin. Cheap bike for luxuary ride 🏆 Thanks again for this perfect review. 🇨🇮✌🇫🇷
Thank you so much for your nice comment and for watching the video☺️
It's a pleasure. Take a look on my chanel if you have some time to spend 😉 😂
Encouraging point how an Ecu Flash will help the power curve!! I have a Yamaha Fz09/Mt09 now but my riding has changed since I moved from a flat area to the mountains & I want a Super Tenere instead 😎
I have the S10 and MT09. They coexist nicely
Goodday well presented yes its a magic bike i have hade gen 1 and am with gen 2. It will be interesting to see if thay bring a replacement out ride safe
Thanks for watching ☺️ I would love a new ST but i fear that it will have to be full of tech to be successful and hence defy the true nature of the ST.
Fabulous review of a great bike 👍, one day I may purchase. See you on road in Cork
Hi Martin. Thanks for watching ☺️you are based in Cork so?
@@Freedomachine fermoy
Ohh cool I'm 5 min from watergrasshill ☺️
@@Freedomachine that's only down the road wow really great video in all fairness and well edited can see you put a lot of work into that Lad giving the super tenere the love it deserves.
Thanks mate 😊
I love my 12 Hope they figure a Replacement!
Great review. I have a 2015 ZE. I've had loads of bikes, this is the best I've owned. Not the fastest, not the most agile, but the best on comfort, best for long distance, best for maintenance and longevity.
Where is the twisting road on intro to the film please?
Thanks for watching😊 It is west of Ireland. Different locations.
Witam fajny filmik jak i pozostałe też .
Też jestem posiadaczem Tenere 👍
Pozdrawiam !
Thanks for watching ☺️
I believe I just found my next bike, With a $10,000 savings over the GSA from BMW this bike has everything I want and I love its looks, too!
Thanks for watching 😊 Make sure that at that price it is a gen 2.
Yes Gen 2 OK Thank you
The healy pass in West Cork. Beautiful road
Thanks for watching 😊
Thought I recognised it, must head that way soon.
I think the situation Super Tenere owners face, with Yamaha not wanting to sell them any more, is a little like owning a motorcycle such as the 2000 model BMW R1150GS. Only finding just a few years later the model replacing it, is completely different. So long as someone is willing to continue servicing your bike, it probably doesn't matter if the model is never made again. What is in a name anyway? It is the bike that counts. My BMW mechanic told me that the engine in my 2000 model GS was the best of all the GS engines up to the liquid cooled one. I still have it, but am looking to get something else now.....perhaps a tenure.
This isan amazing bike and sad they stopped making them 😢
Ok , im looking to fix this problems of bobins.
The model g2 have the same problems like g1?
Thanks , best regards
Model two has a new valve cover so it should be better but it can still happen.
Brilliant, where in Ireland are you riding ? subbed.
Hi, I'm sorry. Saw this only now. I'm on holidays riding across Europe so this slipped between the cracks. I'm from Cork so the most natural destination for a Sunday ride is west Cork. I do all the peninsulas several times throughout the year. Sometimes I go east but I prefer the west. Every time I try to find some hidden gems and Ireland delivers if you search hard enough. The stuff advertised online is far from the best. For instance the wild athletic way is designed so that every vehicle can make it. The real wild athletic way is way better.
I love my 2nd gen ST except for the vibration through my arms over long periods. Also 4th gear sounds like a cat meowing. I wish the tank was 5 litres larger. Off road best to have aggressive tyre tread. I upgraded my windscreen to a larger touring one but the stock yamaha windscreen mount/ adjuster is crap. Definatley needs crashbar / bashplate system due to weight offroad. I love the oldschool simplicty and robustness and reliability for hundreds of thousands of kilometres.
Thanks for watching and this awesome feedback☺️ Engine sound is not something to talk about when it comes to the ST. Yamaha did a poor job with the exhaust.
Look cool motorbike
In just over two years, I have put 42k miles on a 2019 I purchased new in 2020. It has performed well, with only one rear drive seal replacement, and regular maintenance.
Glad I got one before it was discontinued. GS are too expensive for every facet of owning one, KTM dealers are too far apart, and the Honda doesn't suit me.
Thanks for watching 😊 unfortunately very few realize that if you look at the ful package, it is hard to beat the ST.
Hye , do you have some problems with the bobins ?
Sometime i listen the water burn it, it s realy like that?
Thanks for say me, best regards
Thanks for watching ☺️ many gen 1 have this problem. Mine had it too. Watch my full service video where I show how to fix it.
Coolingwhater loss when climbing uphill on hot days. Can it be fixed?
It's a leak. Can be fixed for sure. Cooling level should never go down in any condition. I have the same cooling water since few years. Have a good mechanic look at it.
Curious, you list the HP at 110 for the Gen 2. I see many posts and Dyno's that show only high 80's ??
Hi. On the wheel it is always less although 80 sounds a bit low.
@@Freedomachine I see. So when 110 is quoted that is not comparable to say a BMW GS that quotes closer to 130-150? I believe their numbers are at the wheel? So the at wheel HP is quite a bit lower than other similar HP at wheel? BMW GS, Africa twin, KTM 1190
All manufacturers give you hp at the crankshaft. The latest GS has more like 117hp at the wheel. It depends a lot on the drivetrain. For instance a chain is better in terms of losses.
I love my 2013.
0:57 Where is it ? Irland i presume but where precisely ? Thanks form France.
Thanks for watching ☺️. Healy Pass
maps.app.goo.gl/3xAY4hnhGNYF6s4p8
Hahah compete with a laptop well said mate. I wonder who told manufactures that we want those touch screens and too much tech. This will be my next bike no doubt.
Thanks for watching ☺️ you'll love it
👍🏽👍🏽😍
Hello to the motorbike community. I have a question for anyone with the knowledge and experience. I am contemplating buying a brand new ADV this spring. I basically have it narrowed it down to 2 options.
Option A) 2023 Honda Africa Twin Super Adventure Manual. Like the style and look, I am concerned about the continual maintenance on the chain. It is not uncommon for me to jump on my current bike and put ~500 km's on it in a day on the weekend (311 miles). I am also concerned about the comfort, both in the seat and wind protection. I read lots of information and people love them and of course people will gripe as well and for good reason, experience on the bike. Everyone is different. Is this bike going to be comfortable enough for a few very long days in the saddle from time to time? Although we all get off our bikes every 2-3 hours to fuel on a long trip, still good to have really good comfort when needed. Is this bike the one to have if a person gets an upholsterer to redo the seat to your butt contours? Will that make it an awesome long haul machine?
Option B) 2023 Yamaha Super Tenene 1200. I understand this bike is boring (perhaps compared to some of the competition) but with that come great all day comfort in the saddle and super easy maintenance and reliability. Maybe not as much fun as some of the competition, but my current bike also has shaft drive and has had zero issues in 13 years of ownership. So maybe I don't want to give up reliability and low maintenance?
This bike that I buy will be a long long time purchase and possibly my last bike (maybe not), but as we get older we look for more comfort. The riding I will do is 80% on the pavement and 20% gravel and fire roads. HOWEVER, I live an hour away from the mountains and perhaps with an ADV, that ratio will switch to 60% highway, 40% gravel/fire roads..........we'll see, the ADV could open a whole new chapter in my riding. The Honda would be a no brainer, but does the Yamaha do the same job with a little less fun factor?
Would love feedback from people that have/had either or both bikes and let me know based on your experience and knowledge. Thank you!
Hi, thanks for writing here. Unfortunately my channel is still not at that popular and you won't get a lot of feedback. I suggest that you write on a dedicated Facebook page or forum. Remember that a bike is fun as much as the owner wants it to be. The africa tween is not going to be like night and day compared to the super tenere. Once you remap the ECU it will be hard to tell the difference in terms of power. Regarding comfort, it is totally subjective but the ST looks more like a long distance machine.
Hope you went with option "B" ...............Does everything well ........... Have owned inline 4's , V Twins , Parallel Twins and Horizontally opposed Flat 6's . The XTZ1200 Yammie beats them all.
The one bike you can be very comfortable buying a used one as they last forever
It was too expensive for me as Yamaha didnt offer special financing. i went with the Tracer 9 GT.
The reason it's discontinued is due to the european emission norms. It's still sold in the US.
Thanks for watching ☺️ yes that is right but last thing I heard is that they will pull it off the US market by the end of this year.
@@Freedomachine That's a real shame, I absolutely love the Super Tenere.
Has anyone put knobby off-road tyres on theirs??
A lot do that but you really need to have a good reason for it. Being it the need of doing a lot of off-road. If you ride it on the road it will just spoil your ride. Thanks for watching ☺️
I have mitas E07+ and they offer exceptional grip. I don’t do much off roads but lots of country lanes in rural areas wher farm vehicles dominate. You never know what sort of road surface you get. The mitas give confidence for all conditions.
In 3 years I ve done 50000 km on my S10. Often with my wife. Offroad as well. I coudnt Think of another better bike
Thanks for watching 😊 I think exactly the same 🙂
Mio padre ha comprato un super tenere nel 2020 50000 km mai un problema a differenza di bmw
Where are you nan why you hide all this time