Got a friend who has one that’s a few years old and has done 70k miles and it looks like new - absolutely as if it’s just come out of the showroom. He does big European tours and has not had a single reliability issue. It’s an incredible machine.
Great review! I have over 100,000 kms on mine with no issues. Just came back from a round trip….Toronto to Guatemala, Belize and Mexico with no problems. Awesome!
I purchased a 2023 Super Tenere a couple months ago. It is a great riding bike for west Texas. Main decision to purchase was the shaft drive, hate chain maintenance.
I have a 2021. I love it. I’ve ridden 400 miles in a day on the highway and off road in National Forests - no problems. It’s reliable and comfortable and I actually think it looks pretty damn cool as well.
Every point you have made about the Super 10 is true. It is an extremely underrated motorcycle, but checks the boxes most of us want in this type of motorcycles. I have never spoken to anyone who bought it for its intended purposes that did not love it and the proof is the number of miles they put on them and years they keep them. This will likely be my next motorcycle. Good review!
You nailed it, the market is waking up to the fact that all the bug reveiws deceived them and the super tenere is actually the bike most people want. I totally dismissed it while I looked for the perfect ADV touring bike and then I rode the tiger and the super tenere back to back and realized... the super 10 is the perfect bike. I started to look for them in the used market and they are far and few between and those that are for sale haveany miles on them. That says everything you need to know. It's an excellent bike even in 2023.
I absolutely love my super tenere, I’m 6’5 and about 250lbs and about every other motorbike I’ve ever rode feels super small. I’ve got bar risers on it and that makes it a lot better and it’s a 2012 so it doesn’t have a lot of electronic stuff that the newer ones have but I like that I don’t need any of it
I purchased a near-new '14 Super Tenere in 2016 at a steal. I put a little over 55,000 trouble-free miles traveling to 47 states with some light dirt road riding. The ST is an absolutely fantastic travel bike! I sold it earlier this year because I am done with long range pavement traveling, and I purchased something lighter to do more dirt road, off the beaten path, exploration.
Might as well pile on! I recently bought a 22 with 13K miles on it. Slowly dialing it in. Very satisfying because it's such a great bike to begin with! The day I bought it I road it 300 miles back home and was increasingly blown away by how clever it's designed, how well it's built, and how well it gets down the road. Super stable at an 80 mph cruise, and was fun in the corners. Even got an honest 50 mpg and with one stop, was more than comfortable for the entire trip. STs are amazing, and easily one of the best tools for the job.
I recently got one used, and I’ll say this. My riding style ISN’T off road. I don’t intend to take this bike on anything more extreme then a fire road or gravel path. On the other hand, I am 6’2”, 340lb, and really enjoy the stance of a large ADV. a small 600 to 750 isn’t going to be large enough to feel stable under me. I know because I’ve test ridden many. The size and weight of the Super T work well for me, because it feels stable and I can throw my weight into turning and it feels right. The seat hight is perfect to flat foot on both sides, and I can really see and feel what I’m doing in ways I don’t feel on cruisers or touring bikes. For some, like me, the size is great and the price helps too. I can’t afford a GS, and besides, I don’t like the way they sit. Fantastic work, Yamaha!
I have a 2017, bought it while still in its box. Love the bike and still haven't had the urge to get a new bike. I have just shy of 90,000 km on it. Driven it to the East coast of Canada and to the West coast of the US with my wife as passanger. I bought this bike for touring, not off-roading. I chose well as far as I'm concered. We have done the Tail of The Dragon a couple of times, Blue Ridge Mountain, Smokey Mountains, and the bike performed well, biggest mantainace has been ties, I've gone through several pairs of tires and yet still go back to the OEM ones. Took the bike in around 50 k for valve adjustment. The mechanic listened to it and said these bikes can go longer with no concerns. So, the first valve adjustment is coming up at the end of this driving season.
Although I've watched most of your videos as they come up, I missed this one -- and it's about a bike with which I have extensive experience. Although my Super T is a 2012, it has been my daily commuter and primary ride for the last five or six years. (A VFR and a collection of other bikes, including trail bikes, take up the slack.) My commuting runs an average of about 20,000 miles per year, often riding two times a week from the Tiwn Cities (Minneapolis) to central Minnesota -- in addition to a few long annual trips -- year round. That's right. Year round. I gave up my car about five years ago, and the T has run straight through the winters, with only occasional down time when the roads have wet ice. It's not an offroader by any stretch, but it takes me to see clients in rural out state areas on dirt roads and occasional farm tracks. It's heavy, but turns easily, and can handle twisty roads with ease. It's not a rocket, but it's also stupid reliable with, as you note, very long service intervals for the valves. That's good, because the valves are a huge PIA to check. That said, mine were in spec at the last three checks, the last one done late -- which should give an idea of its mileage, at about 100k (miles). And even now, now matter how I push it, it stubbornly gets about 45 -50 mpg, which isn't bad for a big beast. Not the best at anything, but more than good enough at everything, and with routine, common maintenance, just goes on. And on. And on. And for me, that's what really counts. Great content as always. Always enjoy what you put up. Cheers.
You nailed it on this video. I’m currently in the market for a S10. Selling my Concours 14 and Goldwing to make room. I also have a WR450 for Dualsport trail riding. I recently did a cross country tour on the Goldwing and going through Oregon and Colorado and seeing all the adv bikes made me realize how much I’m missing out on these dirt roads.
Incremental updates until current. Mileage improved each year. Basically the SUV of dual purpose big bikes. Steel high strenght frame. Built to last and reliability. Can take some rough conditions, heavy loads, and swallows bumps. DIY friendly. On 2022 very low center of gravity, flickable, easy U turns, feels light at speed, no problem pushing around. Tons of accessories available. Don't put accessories high on bike to keep COG low. Riding position for 6 foot male is perfect. Plenty of power and smooth in touring mode, especially above 3k rpm. Sport mode is twitchy. No flash or exhaust needed IMHO. Tall windshield best. Killer features are adjustable suspension on fly, No luggage 45-65mpg(75-55mph)=200-300 range(keep fuel pump wet 1.5 gallons) and shaft drive. 10k on road miles stock Bridgestones with tread remaining so far. ABS not intrusive. Never going back to lesser features. Vibrations at 75mph in bars lessened with foam grips or bar end weights. Long Haul Paul abused 2013 and ran it to 172k miles in a few years. Fully accessorized four or five year past models from private seller bikes best deals. Many garaged and older sellers. Recommend you be experienced, strong and flexible to get most out of this bike or it can get the most out of you. Keeping fork tubes and disc rotors clean increases performance and longevity. Lube, lube, lube.
I've had a 2015 for a couple years now and love it. It's got 60k miles on it and rides like new. I went to Utah last year on a 3,900 mile trip. It was fantastic on the highway (especially since I added the extra winglets around the cowl) and it was perfectly capable on the desert dirt roads. As you said, keep the speed reasonable and it will steamroll over just about everything. I agree that the gear indicator is annoying. As is the range indicator, which is so hilariously inaccurate as to be effectively useless. And the seat *is* too soft. But overall it's great. i have no inclination to trade it in for anything other than maybe a newer version of the same model. But since they're so reliable and they never really updated them, I don't have a good reason to do so. So in this case Yamaha may be a victim of success. They built a bike so competent you only ever need to buy one of them.
Back in 2017, i picked up a well kitted out 2012, with crash bars, large skid plate, PIAA lights, extra screens, full set of hard cases, heated grips. After having it for a few years I put a full Arrow exhaust on and flashed the ECU and that really leveled up the performance. i put a kill switch on it to disable the ABS. I also up graded the rear shock to an Ohlins and uppgraded the fork componits at 32k. At this point i can't really think of anything that would be on the new bikes that would make me want to spend the money to get. I find the bike a blast to ride in the twisties as well as dirt and have be pleasantly surprised on more than one occasion at how well it handled to rougher stuff when I find myself following a dirt road furtther than i should have. Ive road the T7 and overall didnt find it to be so much more off road worthy to make me want to add it to the stable. For the truely rougher terrain I have a Beta 390 for that.
Agree 100%. I have a 2012 and could say basically the same thing. Great bike. Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 Getting Dirty: ruclips.net/user/shorts44HSiP1_e24
I bought a pre owned 2016 Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z out of impulse in 2022 even I owned a 2018 Suzuki VStrom DL1000XT since brand new. The reason are; my friend bought one, I like the muscular look of the S10 with more wind protection at the front. Most importantly I wanted a reliable drive shaft bike. Besides the weight and size, I got no issues with the bike. I tried lightening the bike with a lithium battery and a Akrapovic slip on with a dyno tune. I also fixed up a set of ALTRIDER top and bottom crash bars. Added some auxiliary lights too. Next project will be a brand new Matris fully adjustable rear shock and then service the front forks altogether since the bike clocked 80k km on mileage. I hope by then I can feel the real potential of the bike.
I came here to this video because i just got back from Colorado where i took my Royal Enfield cruiser and having a bike like this would have made things a lot better for me
I think I pretty much mirrored what you've done: Got the T7 thinking I could off-road it as much as I wanted, realized that even as good as it is, a purpose built bike that weighs 200 pounds less is better off-road. I realized that now that I'm using the T7 for more street/commuting it's a little light on power and conveniences. I'd love a Multistrada to replace my Monster, but the V4 is pricey and the used L-twin versions will have the same desmo service I wasn't looking forward to on the Monster. This might do the trick, but what I'd really like to see is a Tenere T9! 🙂
I do have bought one in 2021, today I have 20kmiles on it and for me this is The Bike for me. You can do 500 miles in a day and in the evening you will want to do 100 more 😂. There aren't many bikes giving you such a feeling. The engine feela like nuclear powerplant. It just develops any amount of power you need. The radiator on the left side keeps this side of your body warm also in snow conditions (tested). I am sad that Yamaha stopped selling it in Europe and happy to own the very last one available in the Czech Republic. Arigatō Yamaha
I picked up a Honda CB500X to get back into riding, and it's great, but doesn't love the interstate speeds of the USA. I've also learned how much I hate chain maintenance. I've been hunting for a shaft drive ADV bike since. I have found that, unless I'm selling a kidney, the Super Tenere is my best bet. I'd love a midsize ADV bike with a shaft, but Guzzi is the only one I've seen and I'm not brave enough to buy and Italian bike. The hunt for a Super Ten begins!
We have a CB500X and a Super Tenere (Gen 1) in our garage. We bought them new, we’ve had them for 10 years. Both great bikes, my wife and I rode them around Australia back in 2017. The Super Tenere is great, the Honda CB500X is very good but struggles a little on the long highway sections and when passing Road Trains. No regrets.
I had Super Tenere for about 2 years and sold it because I felt it was heavy and I did not planed any long tours for a while. I had some other bikes after that big and mid size but last year i bought a CB500X and I love it. I like everything except the chain maintenance. But hey! There is no perfect bike. I'm happy with the CB500X.
@@mRxmodule That's awesome! I am actually in the process of trying to get my CB500X listed for sale as I got a killer deal on a Super Tenere (used) and I've already put more miles on it in a few months than the Honda saw in a year. Having both side by side the weigh difference is stark, but the ST is such a joy once it's moving that I'm pleased with it. I hope that CB500X serves you well!
You were spot-on with the review. The downside of the bike is how incredibly heavy it is. That weight is great for stability on the highway, but its very difficult to pick the bike up after it lays down on its side. I had to buy a moto winch and I carry it all the time. It packs up small and Its the only way I can stand the bike up again when Im by myself
I will buy my first ever adventure bike , I have choices for GS , Africa Twin , VStorms and Kawasaki Versys . After I watched this video , I will go for Yahama Super Terene 1200 for sure . Thanks for the clear review
I have a 2020 Super T. The longer I own it the more I love it. It has all the features I want, and need. My 3 most important motorcycle features are RELIABILITY, EASE OF MAINTENANCE, and PRICE, in that order. The Super T is a 10 out of 10 in the 3. The only thing I would add to the bike is a self canceling turn signal. Everything else is spot on for me.
Great review! I own a 2015 Yamaha FJR. But would love to own a Super Tenere. A bike that can do it all. I call the super T. The metric BMW GS. Yamaha reliability and price wins!😊
Great review!! I owned a 2012 Super Tenere for 5 years, I only had to replace the headlight bulbs in that time! It’s bulletproof!! It does everything well! Contemplating getting another one.
I'm thinking about giving up my Honda Goldwing for one of these. I'm at the age that I'm having back problems that affect my legs more than anything and maneuvering the Goldwing around my garage and parking lots is starting to worry me with all the weight. I am more interested in the touring capabilities more than anything and the shaft drive and cruise control are a huge factor. The fact that it can do some light off-road riding is just a plus. I would look at adding some type of storage with side cases and/or a top case. Great review.
I think it’s an excellent choice for what many use a ADV for. I have a T7 that I love but often wonder if the Super T would have been a better fit for me. I have spent a fair amount of time and money trying to make my T7 a comfortable commuter and day tripper.
Hi there, pretty solid and accurate review. I have had my Super Tenere for over 6 years now and really enjoy it. Great touring bike and good for smooth forest roads and 2 track. I keep a lifting winch onboard as it is near impossible to lift if dropped. I have a 2012 Beta 498 dual sport for the rough adventures. Thank you for sharing.
Having a shaft drive makes a difference. I never tried one, but would love to do it. Hopefully in the future Yamaha may design a new Super Tenere. A nice video bro. Cheers.
Being low tech is a blessing, not a drawback. Every gadget/accessory has a potential to break and I'd much rather have reliability above everything else when in middle of nowhere.
The Super Tenere is an awesome bike. I do loads of dirt roads and some rough stuff with plenty of river crossings and the SuperT can do it all with a load of gear on the back.
I have a 2014 and the only other ADV bike I would trade it for is a new one. I've taken it on trails I shouldn't have, and it outperformed my expectations.
Thanks for the video. I recently bought a new Super Tenere 2023 and I really like the bike. I mainly do road riding but I did take it on packed gravel roads, nothing too excessive really. It went well but I am not all that skilled in gravel and I was affraid to crash the bike and soon went back to pavement. Of note, there is one comment you made near the end that I was happy to hear you mention. It was the gear indicator issue that disappears when you pull the clutch. I came off an FJR1300 and though the display is a bit different, it’s pretty much the same but just presented differently. The gear display on the FJR does not disappear when you pull in the clutch and so the first time I drove off with the ST I thought it was a mulfunction to be honest. I know the rider should not need a gear indicator to know what gear he or she is in, but nevertheless, it does annoy me as well to see that bar appear in the indicator rather than the gear you are in. But all in all it’s a great bike and I have no regrets getting it. 12:07
The SuperTen is about $26k in Australia, which is around $15.5usd today. The equivalent ktm is nearly $36k aud, BMW about $35k, Harley is $32k, and Honda is $27k. The Yamaha seems pretty good value if that’s what you’re into.
I own a 2010 FJR and will be purchasing a used Super Tenere' in the near future but not if you don't stop telling everyone our secret! It's getting hard to find a used one nowadays. I keep pulling into rest stops and Super T guys park next to me and they all say the same thing. They're former FJR guys now Super Tee guys. The added fire road and gravel is the upgrade I want and the Super T affords me that with no losses, save for being able to go 150mph with the twist of a wrist. I'm long past my "need for speed" so it's a win win.
The perfect travel bike. I just added an aftermarket exhaust can to make the sound sexier…As you, no willing to make hard core enduro with it, but you can go on every kind of road, and suspensions are perfect for French ones, full of bumpers now…Never tried the latest BMW GS, and I don’t want, because my T12 does everything I need 😅
Owning a Suptertenere I cound’t agree more with your review. It is a wonderful bike and would not want to be without. We have other 5 bikes of various species, but this one the do it all with pleasure.
@@CCitisI actually bought one in late October! Dealer had a leftover '22 they wanted to deal on. Really loving it so far, although it's parked for the winter right now. I got my break in KMs done, initial service done, can't wait to put some seat time in this summer.
I own a 2017 model, and it is a really good bike. A couple of things I noticed in the video. You do not need tools to adjust the screen, and you can shut of the abs. It's just a bit complicated. You need to put the bike on the center stand, and let it run in second gear for a short time. Then the abs will shut off 🙂
Good review. I always enjoy uour stuff. Algonquin park eh! Lovely spot. I Was at a dealership today browsing the Tacer 9gt as a possiblefutureupgrade to my Versys650.. This was right beside the T9. Sure caught my interest.
Picked up a low mileage 18 ST after riding a Honda Goldwing for 6 years…I love this bike..You can pack it with tons of camp gear and it won’t even notice…Two track roads are about as serious as I want to venture with a bike this heavy…( my XR 650 L will fill the gaps unless I use one of my dirt bikes for the gnarly stuff)
Nice review! I've ridden 1300km in a day on Super Tenere, its one of the cheapest full adventure bikes to buy, and to maintain. The BMW will cost you more when you buy it, but by the time you hit 200000km on it, you will have spent a fortune in maintenance, while I've seen some put 200000km on the Super Ten without even checking the valves once...A redesign would probably help Yamaha sell more of them, but then again, keeping the old one is what allows them to sell it for under 20k in canada.
I've been pushing this bike in my son's direction for a couple years now. I was this close to grabbing one on 2020, but the Tiger Alpine edition was a steal as I had some good contacts at my local dealer. If it weren't for the savings on the Tiger, I would definitely own this Super T!!
Over half a century I’ve spent thousands of dollars, and many an hour in lost riding time, on valve adjustments. In all that time ‘n money the valves actually required minor adjustments once or twice, and even those adjustments weren’t critical. While I don’t recommend disregarding maintenance schedules, I’d love to hear experts debate the necessity of that particular task.
Your review is pretty much spot on. I got one in 2019, drove it from Toronto to Colorado, through the mountains and home. Did some other pretty gnarly dirt in Algonquin and up by the Soo. I found the seat horribly uncomfortable and also had to have it flashed since the throttle was so jerky. I hated the kickstand and the suspension, while easy to adjust, was still severely lacking and like you said about the gear indicator with the clutch pulled in. That being said, it did have a lot of good things, started every time, got good mileage, decent wind and weather protection and the shaft drive was awesome. Even with the lower price it is just so far out of date it is hard to justify buying it. However if they were to update it I would have to give it a serious look.
God gave me a 2013 model about 4 1/2 years ago. I’ve written it on and off-road, really love it. The price was right. One tip: don’t go off-road and leave it in traction control one. I was climbing a big mountain and needed more throttle and the traction control refused to allow the back wheel to spin and I came to a stop, twisting on the throttle saying please more throttle. Anyway I learned how to pick it up on the side of a mountain and felt a little bad about having to drag it around 180° but very little damage and I won’t leave traction control in 1 off road any more😂
I test rode the 1250GS, the SuperT, and I owned the 2022 Africa Twin. I kept my T7. :) The SuperT felt very outdated and lazy compared to the T7, the Africa Twin was closer to the T7 but the electronics drove me nuts, and the 1250 gs was an overpriced elephant. It sounds harsh but moto companies have recently focused on developing electronics for their bikes instead of making good riding motorcycles. The T7 is a step in the right direction, not that the T7 is perfect.
I "love" my 2019 T12 (I'm in my third so i know it very well). It´s MY bike (even if i had dozens of different bikes in my almost 40y of riding and owned/rode a BMW GS1200Adventure last year, that I travel through Marrocos with - still prefer my tract.....SuperTenere). You are 99% correct, only one minor miss: the headlights are not LED, they are Halogen bulbs (of course you can convert but it´s nothing like the MT09Tracer). This is my go to bike for almost everything, and I have traveled many places and done thousands of absolutely trouble free kms (and my record 1580kms in a day). Never lacked power, never let me down, rides much better (imo) than my GS1200A, and i would chose it to go RWT any day over the BMW or any big bike. Never ever found anything like it! I love my T12 (all of them over the years)! Why would i need more power on a big ADV bike? if you need more power and use it you´d be better with any RR, or even a FJR. When you refer to the Long Way series, they were riding GS1150ADV, back when BMW made reliable bikes which had less HP then the T12. More power comes with the cost of reliability, and travelling in Africa, i couldn't care less for 50hp more, I care that the machine will function and take me to where I want to go.
I'm looking to buy one. Been a Moto Guzzi rider for awhile now, love my v85tt for its simplicity and ease of maintenance... but I need a bit more hp for 2 up and a more parts available if the s10 ever needs parts 😂 this will be my next bike for sure! I don't need apple car play and 30 modes.
Picking up a 2017 with 13K km’s on it this coming Friday. Super excited to own this bike. I’ve been reading up on them and reliability is a big plus for me, along with the shaft drive. Look g to keep this bike for many years to come.
i own a fjr 2002 its superb but has 55,000 miles but still superb i would in the future buy a super tenere because its newer and has shaft drive but i love the rocket speed from my fjr i travel mostly with wife and stuff
If I needed a bigger bike than what I am on, this would be at the top of my list. I am not fancy, but I value comfort and reliability. Also, apparently you pick these up at a bargain because they don't sell. Every Yamaha dealer has one, brand new, that has been collecting dust and wasting money and floor space, for a couple of years.
Seems like a really nice bike. I wish they would make a stripped down dumb version of this bike for a much lower price point though. Nice mention of the mighty dr650 by the way!
@@DifferentSpokesTV No I get it, it does seem like a very nice bike. The electronic suspension is nice but really how many times does the average rider need to adjust their suspension once it’s set up properly. Myself I would love a stripped down version with zero electronics other then heated grips and seat with analog gauges etc. but no one is making those bikes anymore it seems. Now this bike vs a base model African Twin which one would you choose?
Very interesting. I wonder how it will stack up to the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio when it finally comes out. THAT should make a good video from you, having owned the older styled Stelvio!
The super tenere was a victim of bad journalism. Moto journalism has chased the HP races and the uber fancy electronics. The reality is full size ADV bike belong in a Street biased class like the ST. I test rode all the new ADV bikes and test rode a used ST and bought it on the spot.
Agreed, HP chasing marketing didn't do the ST any favors, but people that really ride on dirt know that you only use a fraction of that HP while on dirt. While it's fun on pavement, you're sacrificing reliability to gain those ponies.
Great content and nice review as always!!! I really like your channel! That bike was on my Excel spread sheet (I know, I might be Borg) of many I considered when I was in the Market for a (new to me) ADV Bike. It even made it to the pole position several times. The big Tenere traded places with some of my other favorites like Honda AT, 1200GS, and even the (than new) Norden 901. In the end, I bought the GS, mainly for the better jack-of-all"(ness), perceived or real, and the ease of GS maintenance. Now I can't get the voices of the collective out of my head...weird...
The GS is probably a bit better handling because of its lower centre of gravity but you have to consider the greater price of the bike and service and decide if you’re willing to pay more. I’d love a GS but also the value of the Japanese brands.
I feel like you pushed it as hard or harder than most and it was exceptional off road. Sometimes I think people see a displacement size and always assume it couldn't be ridden hard off road. I have a feeling these people are either parroting what others say or want to seem like an expert because that's what the majority of them say
Great review of a bike I had not thought of for a long time. You covered all the bases. Not to nit pick, but I wonder if you should blur the speedo at certain times...
Those engine guards do look sweet. Every ADV bike should come with something like that. Just a simple piece of metal tubing,strategically placed,is really all you need. As far as the bike itself,it’s not MY style;too big and heavy! But I’m sure it’s a good bike for what it is.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Having dropped mine on a rocky road and put a head-sized rock into the radiator fan, I disagree. Fortunately it was only the fan motor and bracket that got wrecked. Now I have crash bars that go directly across the radiator, not around it like most of the bars for this bike. It's great on the highway, twisty roads, and forest roads.
Throw a decent set of 50/50 tires on there and just point and shoot. Hugely versatile, especially if most of your ride is pavement. Don’t forget that part of the increased weight is in the awesome shaft drive
People gripe about the weight but it's so well managed that the only time it really becomes a problem is if you drop the bike. I had a Versys 1000 before my Tenere and the Yamaha is way easier to push around the garage or manage at parking lot speeds than that bike was.
@@Wrencher_86 I made a funny work out video where I lay down and pick up my S10 a few times and I am not a big guy at all. The bike is just well balanced and carries those extra pounds low
Im gonna spin that... this is the 911 of adventure bikes they dont completely redesign they just made it better every year and they didnt retrain anyone how to assemble what theyve been doing for 14 years its the benefit of a bike descended from the winningest Dakar bike of all time, it doesnt have a 5000 dollar TFT gimmick display and tons of sensors and electronics that could all go very bad for just your battery wearing down a little. People often with good reason brag of multiple hundreds of thousands of miles with no major malfunctions and havent even rebuilt the top end yet.. if you want to ride from Germany to India apparently this the bike to take because both of them pulled it.. all the things new bkes are and this isnt are benefits. This is the most reliable most tested most loved by owners most underrated true King of all adventure bikes. A 2018 with low miles can be had for 8.9K 1/3 the entry level of any other bike in the class and none of those bikes is 3 times better than this. This is the best bike in the adventure class. Or go get a MultiStrada KTM or Triumph. Ill race any one of you on the Super Ten any track any road anywhere anytime. Ill try not to disappoint you. Im not even worried about the Yamaha Super Tenere 1200... because there is nothing to worry about.
Got a friend who has one that’s a few years old and has done 70k miles and it looks like new - absolutely as if it’s just come out of the showroom. He does big European tours and has not had a single reliability issue. It’s an incredible machine.
Great review! I have over 100,000 kms on mine with no issues. Just came back from a round trip….Toronto to Guatemala, Belize and Mexico with no problems. Awesome!
My dream bike, plain and simple. I am 64 years old and hope I can get to ride one of these before my biking days are over.
I purchased a 2023 Super Tenere a couple months ago. It is a great riding bike for west Texas. Main decision to purchase was the shaft drive, hate chain maintenance.
I have a 2021. I love it. I’ve ridden 400 miles in a day on the highway and off road in National Forests - no problems. It’s reliable and comfortable and I actually think it looks pretty damn cool as well.
That is great. Overall ag great bike. Would love to see a new model. Drop by bro, you may like my content. Cheers.
Every point you have made about the Super 10 is true. It is an extremely underrated motorcycle, but checks the boxes most of us want in this type of motorcycles. I have never spoken to anyone who bought it for its intended purposes that did not love it and the proof is the number of miles they put on them and years they keep them. This will likely be my next motorcycle. Good review!
You nailed it, the market is waking up to the fact that all the bug reveiws deceived them and the super tenere is actually the bike most people want. I totally dismissed it while I looked for the perfect ADV touring bike and then I rode the tiger and the super tenere back to back and realized... the super 10 is the perfect bike. I started to look for them in the used market and they are far and few between and those that are for sale haveany miles on them. That says everything you need to know. It's an excellent bike even in 2023.
Yep, I’m always surprised when people buy bikes for brand names when there is a 20-30% less expensive reliable content.
I absolutely love my super tenere, I’m 6’5 and about 250lbs and about every other motorbike I’ve ever rode feels super small. I’ve got bar risers on it and that makes it a lot better and it’s a 2012 so it doesn’t have a lot of electronic stuff that the newer ones have but I like that I don’t need any of it
I purchased a near-new '14 Super Tenere in 2016 at a steal. I put a little over 55,000 trouble-free miles traveling to 47 states with some light dirt road riding. The ST is an absolutely fantastic travel bike! I sold it earlier this year because I am done with long range pavement traveling, and I purchased something lighter to do more dirt road, off the beaten path, exploration.
Might as well pile on! I recently bought a 22 with 13K miles on it. Slowly dialing it in. Very satisfying because it's such a great bike to begin with! The day I bought it I road it 300 miles back home and was increasingly blown away by how clever it's designed, how well it's built, and how well it gets down the road. Super stable at an 80 mph cruise, and was fun in the corners. Even got an honest 50 mpg and with one stop, was more than comfortable for the entire trip. STs are amazing, and easily one of the best tools for the job.
And Sir, for how much you bought it ?
it's one of those "no-BS" bikes - and I like it...
I recently got one used, and I’ll say this. My riding style ISN’T off road. I don’t intend to take this bike on anything more extreme then a fire road or gravel path. On the other hand, I am 6’2”, 340lb, and really enjoy the stance of a large ADV. a small 600 to 750 isn’t going to be large enough to feel stable under me. I know because I’ve test ridden many. The size and weight of the Super T work well for me, because it feels stable and I can throw my weight into turning and it feels right. The seat hight is perfect to flat foot on both sides, and I can really see and feel what I’m doing in ways I don’t feel on cruisers or touring bikes. For some, like me, the size is great and the price helps too. I can’t afford a GS, and besides, I don’t like the way they sit. Fantastic work, Yamaha!
I got it a year ago. I took it for 3000k miles trip this summer and did great. And I'm commuting to work every day with this beast. I love it.
Looking forward to your upload of daily ride of this superTenere.
@@heinekensese_ I made a youtube channel, I share my adventure with this amazing machine
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I have a 2017, bought it while still in its box. Love the bike and still haven't had the urge to get a new bike. I have just shy of 90,000 km on it. Driven it to the East coast of Canada and to the West coast of the US with my wife as passanger. I bought this bike for touring, not off-roading. I chose well as far as I'm concered. We have done the Tail of The Dragon a couple of times, Blue Ridge Mountain, Smokey Mountains, and the bike performed well, biggest mantainace has been ties, I've gone through several pairs of tires and yet still go back to the OEM ones. Took the bike in around 50 k for valve adjustment. The mechanic listened to it and said these bikes can go longer with no concerns. So, the first valve adjustment is coming up at the end of this driving season.
I’m on my second Super Tenere now. 2 years old and over 47,000kms. Love them!!
Although I've watched most of your videos as they come up, I missed this one -- and it's about a bike with which I have extensive experience. Although my Super T is a 2012, it has been my daily commuter and primary ride for the last five or six years. (A VFR and a collection of other bikes, including trail bikes, take up the slack.) My commuting runs an average of about 20,000 miles per year, often riding two times a week from the Tiwn Cities (Minneapolis) to central Minnesota -- in addition to a few long annual trips -- year round. That's right. Year round. I gave up my car about five years ago, and the T has run straight through the winters, with only occasional down time when the roads have wet ice. It's not an offroader by any stretch, but it takes me to see clients in rural out state areas on dirt roads and occasional farm tracks. It's heavy, but turns easily, and can handle twisty roads with ease. It's not a rocket, but it's also stupid reliable with, as you note, very long service intervals for the valves. That's good, because the valves are a huge PIA to check. That said, mine were in spec at the last three checks, the last one done late -- which should give an idea of its mileage, at about 100k (miles). And even now, now matter how I push it, it stubbornly gets about 45 -50 mpg, which isn't bad for a big beast. Not the best at anything, but more than good enough at everything, and with routine, common maintenance, just goes on. And on. And on. And for me, that's what really counts. Great content as always. Always enjoy what you put up. Cheers.
Im on my third one absolutely love them
You nailed it on this video. I’m currently in the market for a S10. Selling my Concours 14 and Goldwing to make room. I also have a WR450 for Dualsport trail riding.
I recently did a cross country tour on the Goldwing and going through Oregon and Colorado and seeing all the adv bikes made me realize how much I’m missing out on these dirt roads.
Incremental updates until current. Mileage improved each year. Basically the SUV of dual purpose big bikes. Steel high strenght frame. Built to last and reliability. Can take some rough conditions, heavy loads, and swallows bumps. DIY friendly. On 2022 very low center of gravity, flickable, easy U turns, feels light at speed, no problem pushing around. Tons of accessories available. Don't put accessories high on bike to keep COG low. Riding position for 6 foot male is perfect. Plenty of power and smooth in touring mode, especially above 3k rpm. Sport mode is twitchy. No flash or exhaust needed IMHO. Tall windshield best. Killer features are adjustable suspension on fly, No luggage 45-65mpg(75-55mph)=200-300 range(keep fuel pump wet 1.5 gallons) and shaft drive. 10k on road miles stock Bridgestones with tread remaining so far. ABS not intrusive. Never going back to lesser features. Vibrations at 75mph in bars lessened with foam grips or bar end weights. Long Haul Paul abused 2013 and ran it to 172k miles in a few years. Fully accessorized four or five year past models from private seller bikes best deals. Many garaged and older sellers. Recommend you be experienced, strong and flexible to get most out of this bike or it can get the most out of you. Keeping fork tubes and disc rotors clean increases performance and longevity. Lube, lube, lube.
I've had a 2015 for a couple years now and love it. It's got 60k miles on it and rides like new. I went to Utah last year on a 3,900 mile trip. It was fantastic on the highway (especially since I added the extra winglets around the cowl) and it was perfectly capable on the desert dirt roads. As you said, keep the speed reasonable and it will steamroll over just about everything. I agree that the gear indicator is annoying. As is the range indicator, which is so hilariously inaccurate as to be effectively useless. And the seat *is* too soft.
But overall it's great. i have no inclination to trade it in for anything other than maybe a newer version of the same model. But since they're so reliable and they never really updated them, I don't have a good reason to do so. So in this case Yamaha may be a victim of success. They built a bike so competent you only ever need to buy one of them.
Back in 2017, i picked up a well kitted out 2012, with crash bars, large skid plate, PIAA lights, extra screens, full set of hard cases, heated grips. After having it for a few years I put a full Arrow exhaust on and flashed the ECU and that really leveled up the performance. i put a kill switch on it to disable the ABS. I also up graded the rear shock to an Ohlins and uppgraded the fork componits at 32k. At this point i can't really think of anything that would be on the new bikes that would make me want to spend the money to get. I find the bike a blast to ride in the twisties as well as dirt and have be pleasantly surprised on more than one occasion at how well it handled to rougher stuff when I find myself following a dirt road furtther than i should have. Ive road the T7 and overall didnt find it to be so much more off road worthy to make me want to add it to the stable. For the truely rougher terrain I have a Beta 390 for that.
Agree 100%. I have a 2012 and could say basically the same thing. Great bike.
Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 Getting Dirty: ruclips.net/user/shorts44HSiP1_e24
I bought a pre owned 2016 Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z out of impulse in 2022 even I owned a 2018 Suzuki VStrom DL1000XT since brand new. The reason are; my friend bought one, I like the muscular look of the S10 with more wind protection at the front. Most importantly I wanted a reliable drive shaft bike. Besides the weight and size, I got no issues with the bike. I tried lightening the bike with a lithium battery and a Akrapovic slip on with a dyno tune. I also fixed up a set of ALTRIDER top and bottom crash bars. Added some auxiliary lights too. Next project will be a brand new Matris fully adjustable rear shock and then service the front forks altogether since the bike clocked 80k km on mileage. I hope by then I can feel the real potential of the bike.
I came here to this video because i just got back from Colorado where i took my Royal Enfield cruiser and having a bike like this would have made things a lot better for me
I think I pretty much mirrored what you've done: Got the T7 thinking I could off-road it as much as I wanted, realized that even as good as it is, a purpose built bike that weighs 200 pounds less is better off-road. I realized that now that I'm using the T7 for more street/commuting it's a little light on power and conveniences. I'd love a Multistrada to replace my Monster, but the V4 is pricey and the used L-twin versions will have the same desmo service I wasn't looking forward to on the Monster. This might do the trick, but what I'd really like to see is a Tenere T9! 🙂
Yep, I did a video on the T9 rumour a while back. I think it would be a good seller and light weight.
I do have bought one in 2021, today I have 20kmiles on it and for me this is The Bike for me.
You can do 500 miles in a day and in the evening you will want to do 100 more 😂. There aren't many bikes giving you such a feeling.
The engine feela like nuclear powerplant. It just develops any amount of power you need. The radiator on the left side keeps this side of your body warm also in snow conditions (tested).
I am sad that Yamaha stopped selling it in Europe and happy to own the very last one available in the Czech Republic.
Arigatō Yamaha
I picked up a Honda CB500X to get back into riding, and it's great, but doesn't love the interstate speeds of the USA. I've also learned how much I hate chain maintenance. I've been hunting for a shaft drive ADV bike since. I have found that, unless I'm selling a kidney, the Super Tenere is my best bet. I'd love a midsize ADV bike with a shaft, but Guzzi is the only one I've seen and I'm not brave enough to buy and Italian bike.
The hunt for a Super Ten begins!
We have a CB500X and a Super Tenere (Gen 1) in our garage. We bought them new, we’ve had them for 10 years. Both great bikes, my wife and I rode them around Australia back in 2017. The Super Tenere is great, the Honda CB500X is very good but struggles a little on the long highway sections and when passing Road Trains. No regrets.
I had Super Tenere for about 2 years and sold it because I felt it was heavy and I did not planed any long tours for a while.
I had some other bikes after that big and mid size but last year i bought a CB500X and I love it. I like everything except the chain maintenance. But hey! There is no perfect bike. I'm happy with the CB500X.
@@mRxmodule That's awesome! I am actually in the process of trying to get my CB500X listed for sale as I got a killer deal on a Super Tenere (used) and I've already put more miles on it in a few months than the Honda saw in a year. Having both side by side the weigh difference is stark, but the ST is such a joy once it's moving that I'm pleased with it. I hope that CB500X serves you well!
You were spot-on with the review. The downside of the bike is how incredibly heavy it is. That weight is great for stability on the highway, but its very difficult to pick the bike up after it lays down on its side. I had to buy a moto winch and I carry it all the time. It packs up small and Its the only way I can stand the bike up again when Im by myself
I will buy my first ever adventure bike , I have choices for GS , Africa Twin , VStorms and Kawasaki Versys . After I watched this video , I will go for Yahama Super Terene 1200 for sure . Thanks for the clear review
For on road and light of road a good choice. Best deals and info. on forums.
I have a 2020 Super T. The longer I own it the more I love it. It has all the features I want, and need. My 3 most important motorcycle features are RELIABILITY, EASE OF MAINTENANCE, and PRICE, in that order. The Super T is a 10 out of 10 in the 3. The only thing I would add to the bike is a self canceling turn signal. Everything else is spot on for me.
Great review! I own a 2015 Yamaha FJR. But would love to own a Super Tenere. A bike that can do it all. I call the super T. The metric BMW GS. Yamaha reliability and price wins!😊
Great review!! I owned a 2012 Super Tenere for 5 years, I only had to replace the headlight bulbs in that time! It’s bulletproof!! It does everything well! Contemplating getting another one.
I'm thinking about giving up my Honda Goldwing for one of these. I'm at the age that I'm having back problems that affect my legs more than anything and maneuvering the Goldwing around my garage and parking lots is starting to worry me with all the weight. I am more interested in the touring capabilities more than anything and the shaft drive and cruise control are a huge factor. The fact that it can do some light off-road riding is just a plus. I would look at adding some type of storage with side cases and/or a top case. Great review.
I think it’s an excellent choice for what many use a ADV for. I have a T7 that I love but often wonder if the Super T would have been a better fit for me. I have spent a fair amount of time and money trying to make my T7 a comfortable commuter and day tripper.
Hi there, pretty solid and accurate review. I have had my Super Tenere for over 6 years now and really enjoy it. Great touring bike and good for smooth forest roads and 2 track. I keep a lifting winch onboard as it is near impossible to lift if dropped. I have a 2012 Beta 498 dual sport for the rough adventures. Thank you for sharing.
The T 1200 is beast. Very reliable and and fun to ride❤❤❤
Great review.
He’s one of my favourite RUclipsrs.
I’d say this review single-handedly put the Super-T on my menu for the first time.
Having a shaft drive makes a difference. I never tried one, but would love to do it. Hopefully in the future Yamaha may design a new Super Tenere. A nice video bro. Cheers.
Being low tech is a blessing, not a drawback. Every gadget/accessory has a potential to break and I'd much rather have reliability above everything else when in middle of nowhere.
The Super Tenere is an awesome bike. I do loads of dirt roads and some rough stuff with plenty of river crossings and the SuperT can do it all with a load of gear on the back.
I have a 2014 and the only other ADV bike I would trade it for is a new one. I've taken it on trails I shouldn't have, and it outperformed my expectations.
Thanks for the video. I recently bought a new Super Tenere 2023 and I really like the bike. I mainly do road riding but I did take it on packed gravel roads, nothing too excessive really. It went well but I am not all that skilled in gravel and I was affraid to crash the bike and soon went back to pavement. Of note, there is one comment you made near the end that I was happy to hear you mention. It was the gear indicator issue that disappears when you pull the clutch. I came off an FJR1300 and though the display is a bit different, it’s pretty much the same but just presented differently. The gear display on the FJR does not disappear when you pull in the clutch and so the first time I drove off with the ST I thought it was a mulfunction to be honest. I know the rider should not need a gear indicator to know what gear he or she is in, but nevertheless, it does annoy me as well to see that bar appear in the indicator rather than the gear you are in. But all in all it’s a great bike and I have no regrets getting it. 12:07
The SuperTen is about $26k in Australia, which is around $15.5usd today.
The equivalent ktm is nearly $36k aud, BMW about $35k, Harley is $32k, and Honda is $27k.
The Yamaha seems pretty good value if that’s what you’re into.
I own a 2010 FJR and will be purchasing a used Super Tenere' in the near future but not if you don't stop telling everyone our secret! It's getting hard to find a used one nowadays. I keep pulling into rest stops and Super T guys park next to me and they all say the same thing. They're former FJR guys now Super Tee guys. The added fire road and gravel is the upgrade I want and the Super T affords me that with no losses, save for being able to go 150mph with the twist of a wrist. I'm long past my "need for speed" so it's a win win.
The perfect travel bike. I just added an aftermarket exhaust can to make the sound sexier…As you, no willing to make hard core enduro with it, but you can go on every kind of road, and suspensions are perfect for French ones, full of bumpers now…Never tried the latest BMW GS, and I don’t want, because my T12 does everything I need 😅
Owning a Suptertenere I cound’t agree more with your review. It is a wonderful bike and would not want to be without. We have other 5 bikes of various species, but this one the do it all with pleasure.
Pretty much decided that this will be my next bike. Your video was very informative and useful for me. Thanks!
Same!
@@CCitisI actually bought one in late October! Dealer had a leftover '22 they wanted to deal on. Really loving it so far, although it's parked for the winter right now. I got my break in KMs done, initial service done, can't wait to put some seat time in this summer.
I am looking at a leftover 22 as well, I hope they come down on the price a touch... @@morley3810
2014 ST put a 160000Km on it. It’s pass through 2 more owners and I still see I around town looking awesome. Great bike!
I own a 2017 model, and it is a really good bike. A couple of things I noticed in the video.
You do not need tools to adjust the screen, and you can shut of the abs. It's just a bit complicated.
You need to put the bike on the center stand, and let it run in second gear for a short time. Then the abs will shut off 🙂
Good review.
I always enjoy uour stuff.
Algonquin park eh! Lovely spot.
I Was at a dealership today browsing the Tacer 9gt as a possiblefutureupgrade to my Versys650.. This was right beside the T9.
Sure caught my interest.
Picked up a low mileage 18 ST after riding a Honda Goldwing for 6 years…I love this bike..You can pack it with tons of camp gear and it won’t even notice…Two track roads are about as serious as I want to venture with a bike this heavy…( my XR 650 L will fill the gaps unless I use one of my dirt bikes for the gnarly stuff)
Nice review! I've ridden 1300km in a day on Super Tenere, its one of the cheapest full adventure bikes to buy, and to maintain. The BMW will cost you more when you buy it, but by the time you hit 200000km on it, you will have spent a fortune in maintenance, while I've seen some put 200000km on the Super Ten without even checking the valves once...A redesign would probably help Yamaha sell more of them, but then again, keeping the old one is what allows them to sell it for under 20k in canada.
I've been pushing this bike in my son's direction for a couple years now.
I was this close to grabbing one on 2020, but the Tiger Alpine edition was a steal as I had some good contacts at my local dealer. If it weren't for the savings on the Tiger, I would definitely own this Super T!!
Great review. I ended up buying a Guzzi V85 TT, but I was seriously considering this bike. I think it is good value.
I badly want a guzzi but nearest dealer to me is 1000 kms away.
Over half a century I’ve spent thousands of dollars, and many an hour in lost riding time, on valve adjustments. In all that time ‘n money the valves actually required minor adjustments once or twice, and even those adjustments weren’t critical. While I don’t recommend disregarding maintenance schedules, I’d love to hear experts debate the necessity of that particular task.
Your review is pretty much spot on. I got one in 2019, drove it from Toronto to Colorado, through the mountains and home. Did some other pretty gnarly dirt in Algonquin and up by the Soo. I found the seat horribly uncomfortable and also had to have it flashed since the throttle was so jerky. I hated the kickstand and the suspension, while easy to adjust, was still severely lacking and like you said about the gear indicator with the clutch pulled in. That being said, it did have a lot of good things, started every time, got good mileage, decent wind and weather protection and the shaft drive was awesome. Even with the lower price it is just so far out of date it is hard to justify buying it. However if they were to update it I would have to give it a serious look.
But a chain cleans itself dude! T7 is awesome!
God gave me a 2013 model about 4 1/2 years ago. I’ve written it on and off-road, really love it. The price was right. One tip: don’t go off-road and leave it in traction control one. I was climbing a big mountain and needed more throttle and the traction control refused to allow the back wheel to spin and I came to a stop, twisting on the throttle saying please more throttle. Anyway I learned how to pick it up on the side of a mountain and felt a little bad about having to drag it around 180° but very little damage and I won’t leave traction control in 1 off road any more😂
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I test rode the 1250GS, the SuperT, and I owned the 2022 Africa Twin. I kept my T7. :)
The SuperT felt very outdated and lazy compared to the T7, the Africa Twin was closer to the T7 but the electronics drove me nuts, and the 1250 gs was an overpriced elephant. It sounds harsh but moto companies have recently focused on developing electronics for their bikes instead of making good riding motorcycles. The T7 is a step in the right direction, not that the T7 is perfect.
Good discussion and valid points made 👍
I "love" my 2019 T12 (I'm in my third so i know it very well). It´s MY bike (even if i had dozens of different bikes in my almost 40y of riding and owned/rode a BMW GS1200Adventure last year, that I travel through Marrocos with - still prefer my tract.....SuperTenere). You are 99% correct, only one minor miss: the headlights are not LED, they are Halogen bulbs (of course you can convert but it´s nothing like the MT09Tracer). This is my go to bike for almost everything, and I have traveled many places and done thousands of absolutely trouble free kms (and my record 1580kms in a day). Never lacked power, never let me down, rides much better (imo) than my GS1200A, and i would chose it to go RWT any day over the BMW or any big bike. Never ever found anything like it! I love my T12 (all of them over the years)!
Why would i need more power on a big ADV bike? if you need more power and use it you´d be better with any RR, or even a FJR. When you refer to the Long Way series, they were riding GS1150ADV, back when BMW made reliable bikes which had less HP then the T12. More power comes with the cost of reliability, and travelling in Africa, i couldn't care less for 50hp more, I care that the machine will function and take me to where I want to go.
I have a 2012. I do love it. I got more bang for my buck than if I got a BMW or other bike.
Great, reliable, long distance bike for touring. You can get one second hand for silly money in the EU bc it's on Nobodies radar.
Yep, I like reminding people that these bikes are still around.
Makes it hard for me to stay with an all suzuki lineup
Most comfortable tour bike I've had.
I'm looking to buy one. Been a Moto Guzzi rider for awhile now, love my v85tt for its simplicity and ease of maintenance... but I need a bit more hp for 2 up and a more parts available if the s10 ever needs parts 😂 this will be my next bike for sure! I don't need apple car play and 30 modes.
Looks like a big, powerful, a little bit lazy and dangerous cat. Great review and very beautiful scenery.
Thanks!
Finally someone else has taken there super tenere on trails just me 😅
I think it is very underrated... There are some older new models near me that are on blowout. I may just trade up.
Picking up a 2017 with 13K km’s on it this coming Friday. Super excited to own this bike. I’ve been reading up on them and reliability is a big plus for me, along with the shaft drive. Look g to keep this bike for many years to come.
i own a fjr 2002 its superb but has 55,000 miles but still superb i would in the future buy a super tenere because its newer and has shaft drive but i love the rocket speed from my fjr i travel mostly with wife and stuff
If I needed a bigger bike than what I am on, this would be at the top of my list. I am not fancy, but I value comfort and reliability. Also, apparently you pick these up at a bargain because they don't sell. Every Yamaha dealer has one, brand new, that has been collecting dust and wasting money and floor space, for a couple of years.
Seems like a really nice bike.
I wish they would make a stripped down dumb version of this bike for a much lower price point though.
Nice mention of the mighty dr650 by the way!
I find I'm riding my dr650 less because the vibes get to me after 300k of riding. I now stick with the big girl.
@@arnohag1 Yeah makes sense, that single cylinder beauty singing along at 5000 rpm will do that…🥃
This is one of the least expensive ‘big’ bike, and I have to say, the electronically adjustable suspension is really convenient.
@@DifferentSpokesTV No I get it, it does seem like a very nice bike. The electronic suspension is nice but really how many times does the average rider need to adjust their suspension once it’s set up properly.
Myself I would love a stripped down version with zero electronics other then heated grips and seat with analog gauges etc. but no one is making those bikes anymore it seems.
Now this bike vs a base model African Twin which one would you choose?
Love me a Yamahammer... just picked up a V-Strom 1050 XT though.
That’s a pretty nice v-twin bike.
Very interesting. I wonder how it will stack up to the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio when it finally comes out. THAT should make a good video from you, having owned the older styled Stelvio!
Yes, unfortunately MG does not bring a press fleet to Canada. I have a feeling the new Stelvio will be a much lighter bike.
Outstanding review!
The super tenere was a victim of bad journalism. Moto journalism has chased the HP races and the uber fancy electronics. The reality is full size ADV bike belong in a Street biased class like the ST.
I test rode all the new ADV bikes and test rode a used ST and bought it on the spot.
Yes, there’s no point having 150+hp. You can pass easily with 110.
Agreed, HP chasing marketing didn't do the ST any favors, but people that really ride on dirt know that you only use a fraction of that HP while on dirt. While it's fun on pavement, you're sacrificing reliability to gain those ponies.
Great content and nice review as always!!! I really like your channel!
That bike was on my Excel spread sheet (I know, I might be Borg) of many I considered when I was in the Market for a (new to me) ADV Bike. It even made it to the pole position several times. The big Tenere traded places with some of my other favorites like Honda AT, 1200GS, and even the (than new) Norden 901. In the end, I bought the GS, mainly for the better jack-of-all"(ness), perceived or real, and the ease of GS maintenance. Now I can't get the voices of the collective out of my head...weird...
The GS is probably a bit better handling because of its lower centre of gravity but you have to consider the greater price of the bike and service and decide if you’re willing to pay more. I’d love a GS but also the value of the Japanese brands.
Now I want one!
I picked up a loaded 2012 with 40000 miles this year for $4000 you can get good deals on modded out used ones.
Nice review 👍
The xtz1200 is great ride😎🤙
Thanks a timely review I have been thinking about one of these as a weekend go to shows and rallies bike.
It’s a comfy traveller for sure.
Very interesting. Some dealers in BC are asking $19K. Messes up the bikes's value. Cheers from the Paific West Coast of Canada.
Yep, but you get these to ride rather than re-sell. If I bought one I’d ride it till it fell apart.
I feel like you pushed it as hard or harder than most and it was exceptional off road. Sometimes I think people see a displacement size and always assume it couldn't be ridden hard off road. I have a feeling these people are either parroting what others say or want to seem like an expert because that's what the majority of them say
Gutted that this is not available any more in Europe. Hope Yamaha issue a replacement soon.
you should test the 1050 V Strom. Doesn't have a shaft drive or electronic suspension but I think everything else is better.
Drive shaft is a big plus...
Great review of a bike I had not thought of for a long time. You covered all the bases. Not to nit pick, but I wonder if you should blur the speedo at certain times...
Good point. I’ve done it before but it’s cool to show the big bike cornering at 130kph and how capable it is.
Another great review
Those engine guards do look sweet. Every ADV bike should come with something like that. Just a simple piece of metal tubing,strategically placed,is really all you need. As far as the bike itself,it’s not MY style;too big and heavy! But I’m sure it’s a good bike for what it is.
Good point. You don’t need a full cage to protect the side of the bike.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Having dropped mine on a rocky road and put a head-sized rock into the radiator fan, I disagree. Fortunately it was only the fan motor and bracket that got wrecked. Now I have crash bars that go directly across the radiator, not around it like most of the bars for this bike. It's great on the highway, twisty roads, and forest roads.
Throw a decent set of 50/50 tires on there and just point and shoot. Hugely versatile, especially if most of your ride is pavement. Don’t forget that part of the increased weight is in the awesome shaft drive
People gripe about the weight but it's so well managed that the only time it really becomes a problem is if you drop the bike. I had a Versys 1000 before my Tenere and the Yamaha is way easier to push around the garage or manage at parking lot speeds than that bike was.
@@Wrencher_86 I made a funny work out video where I lay down and pick up my S10 a few times and I am not a big guy at all.
The bike is just well balanced and carries those extra pounds low
I would absolutely buy one over a gs, but here in Australia they are pretty expensive. Can get a same year Triumph Tiger 1200 for less
Yeh, she's a big girl, but I find it well balanced, enough power and torque, and not fused on what surface you ride her on. In Australia she is $25k.
Yep, it’s a well balanced bike. I’d be happy owning one.
I think the Tracer 9 would be a better choice for me.
I’m trying to get on one by the end of the riding season so stay tuned.
GL1500 is a bit scetchy off road but all the gravel and dirt roads in the video would be fine.
Super Ten12 is well overdue replacement, but I wonder if the T9GT+ going to be the final statement on Yams ADV ambition?
Im gonna spin that... this is the 911 of adventure bikes they dont completely redesign they just made it better every year and they didnt retrain anyone how to assemble what theyve been doing for 14 years its the benefit of a bike descended from the winningest Dakar bike of all time, it doesnt have a 5000 dollar TFT gimmick display and tons of sensors and electronics that could all go very bad for just your battery wearing down a little. People often with good reason brag of multiple hundreds of thousands of miles with no major malfunctions and havent even rebuilt the top end yet.. if you want to ride from Germany to India apparently this the bike to take because both of them pulled it.. all the things new bkes are and this isnt are benefits. This is the most reliable most tested most loved by owners most underrated true King of all adventure bikes. A 2018 with low miles can be had for 8.9K 1/3 the entry level of any other bike in the class and none of those bikes is 3 times better than this. This is the best bike in the adventure class. Or go get a MultiStrada KTM or Triumph. Ill race any one of you on the Super Ten any track any road anywhere anytime. Ill try not to disappoint you. Im not even worried about the Yamaha Super Tenere 1200... because there is nothing to worry about.
That’s the ADV bike I want, but it needs a big update first. It’s too long in the tooth now.
Huhuhuhu what's next a 1800 goldwing powered Honda dual sport with a winch?
All it needs is a sidecar and a reverse gear and it sounds like it would be perfect for just about everywhere.