Here I am a year later, I'm buying another Super Tenere 1200 (same year, a 2021), and re-ordering the lower pegs, grey stickers and anti-glare screen protector :) I am keeping the DR650, but I'm definitely happy to buy another long distance touring bike again!
I also agree. I have done several long trips, across Australia and return twice, and also south to north via the west coast and central Western Australia. It is much mofre comfortable than my previouis XS1100's and FJ1200's for the long haul. Travelled in temops ranging from -4C (air temp) to two runs of 47C. Bike has never faultered. One trip included a 1700 km day, from Nullarbor Roadhouse (South Australia) to Perth's northern suburbs. At 40,000 km service no adjustment was required. I am sorry you had to part with yours.
I have a 2012 which I bought new. Two weeks after I bought it the wife would get pregnant so that would be our only good summer on it. We did a couple 600+mile days including gravel/dirt and she found it incredibly comfortable and fell asleep often. It is my 8th bike and replaced a KLR 650 which was flat out dangerous riding two up. I have road track experience (sortbikes) and have been to racing school as well. The Tenere handled better on the dirt, far better and is obviously miles better on the pavement. Good bike super comfortable and NOT a Enduro or a real offroad bike. It does maneuver incredibly well for its size and do to the dry sump is easy to pick up and balances better than many 650 bikes. My only complaint is for some strange reason, it is impossible to ride on Ice and I've ridden year round for two decades here in Montana. I've no Idea why. Good bike otherwise and IMO a one bike fits all sort of ride. I've not rode a newer model and would love to try an ES someday. I'm not much for mods as I believe a rider makes the bike. I used to chase a guy on a old 84 two stroke 250 on the track that embarrassed so many people on the corners it was crazy. Good luck, losing work can be scary but its an opportunity to travel and reinvent yourself.
@@outdoorfun8780 Its not a dirt bike, its a touring/adventure bike. But theres not many places I would have gone with the africa that I wouldnt have with the ST :)
Well made video. Enjoyed very much. Super Tenere is a wonderful bike in my opinion. Weeks ago I also filmed the DR. :) Just keep it up. You got my like.
Great video. Was wondering if you turn the traction control off, then power off the bike....does it remember that setting? Or does it reset back to some default setting. Thank You.
How do you like the exhaust after 6months? lol I own a DR650 too, the 2 best bikes ever made. I've owned a DR650 for 12 years. Stainless brake lines, pumper carb, acerbis tank, Racetech front susp. and Cogent rebuild on on the rear, Staintune full exhaust system, modified airbox. It is an unstoppable machine, I would load it up for camping trips, rode half way across Canada and all over the East coast on it, absolutely bulletproof, 95K and starts every time. I just got the S10 and have rode it across the country and back, it was the perfect bike to be on.
The S10 is definately a better touring machine, but the DR is just so much fun! I liked the exhaust on the S10, without it, it was lacking a bit of character. On the DR, I have the air box mod, new jet, 25L acerbis tank, tall seat concepts, lower pegs, bar risers, upgraded headlight bulb, and I just love it. It just goes everywhere and asks for more!
I have a Yamaha ST 2014 model. The motorcycle is excellent. It has been remapped, and the sport mode is now incredible. I installed a Mivv exhaust. I'm satisfied with it, but I feel it's a bit heavy for me. Especially when I add three cases and a passenger, the weight is quite noticeable. It hasn't been a significant issue for me, but I always feel those extra 20-30 kilograms. Last week, I rented a Honda Transalp for a week (the new model, 0 km), and I was fascinated by its lightness or mass. However, I found that motorcycle a bit underpowered, and now I'm seriously considering the Honda Africa Twin 1100 but with a DCT gearbox. I mainly ride on paved roads, very rarely on gravel, and never off-road. Almost always, there are two of us on the motorcycle, often with three cases, but always one passenger. Would it be worth it to switch to the Honda, and would the difference in weight be noticeable? In general, my Yamaha is easy to handle. I don't ride aggressively (e.g., after remapping, my fuel consumption is below 5l/100 km). Do you think that switching to a newer Honda could meet my expectations? I want the motorcycle to have power or torque, so overtaking trucks in the hills with three cases and a passenger doesn't require high revs. This Yamaha (remap + Mivv) already has enough power for that (2.8 sec from 20-100 km/h in 2nd gear). Would the difference in weight be noticeable while riding, or would investing in a new motorcycle not meet expectations after all?
I haven't tried the 1100, I had a 2017 and 2019 Africa Twin 1000, which to me was awesome for just about everything. The AT 1100 DCT is definitely worth a try, but aside from the weight difference, I'm not sure for what you are doing, that it's better than the Super Tenere. Also keep in mind the Africa is a higher maintenance bike (and valves will cost you a good 1000$ every 24000km) has a lot more electronics (not a good thing long term) and its chain driven vs drive shaft on the ST which is something to keep in mind if you ride 20000km a year. The AT is a very comfortable bike, but I wouldn't replace your ST with that without first trying it and making sure it feels the way you want it to feel. It's still a 500lbs and tall bike (so if you're looking for lighter, not sure it will be light enough). On the other hand, it's always a trade off, the weight of the ST is what makes it such a stable touring bike. Depending on your height you might also want to look into a low mileage BMW R1200RT/R1250RT, or even GS1200/GS1250, loads of torque, very low center of gravity (there's even lowered models), great wind protection, and rides like a magic carpet, I just wouldn't buy a high mileage one, unless it had a log maintenance from day 1, as if you start replacing clutch and driving shaft, the repairs will cost almost as much as what the bike is worth. Best advice I can give you is try before you buy, there's few bad bikes, mostly bad choices. :)
@@Speedytrip Thank you for your response. You've helped me. I think I'll stick with my Super Tenere. I'm satisfied with it, and from your answer, I could conclude that the exchange isn't worth the extra money. Sure, I'd have a newer motorcycle, but investing in movable property doesn't seem like the wisest choice to me. Thanks
You’re welcome, I used to change bikes up to 3 times a year. It’s always fun to try a new bike but today I regret selling some of them, and I could probably retire 5 years earlier had I been more reasonable lol The ST is definitely the best touring bike I’ve had, I did 1300km in a day on it, and the next day I was ready to ride again. Don’t think I would have done that on the africa with the same results. I now have an old concours 14 for touring, and the ST was still way more comfortable.
Just watched your African twin vs Tenere vid and this and I’ve gotta say very well done videos I really want to see more. Can you explain how you did flat seat mod? Thanks!!
Hi thanks appreciated, its bedn a while but it was basically replacing the rubber gromets with thicker ones, theres 1-2 videos on youtube about it. Mod is cheap and well worth it! :)
Great video!! And very sorry you were forced to sell your ST. Quick question: can you tell me where you bought your MIVV exhaust from? I assume you shopped around and found the best and/or cheapest vendor for a Canadian customer?
Hey no worries, got a new job and have been riding 20000km on my DR650 since and I've been having an absolute blast :) For the exhaust I bought it from Japeuna Moto on Facebook, I think it's still a part time job for him, so don't expect service like Fortnine, but he does have the best prices (sometimes by quite a bit), and he holds brands that you probably won't find anywhere else in Canada. Cheers!
@@Speedytrip Thank you for your speedy reply! I will check Japeuna Moto. And I am doing more or less the opposite: sold my DR400 and about to buy a (2018) SuperTen. Well, as long as it keeps us happy! :-)
@jala6707 Im on my 22nd or 23rd bike…change is always nice :) Youll love the ST, its a beast of a touring bike and one of the lowest maintenance bikes out there :)
@@Speedytrip Thanks for the response! I’m in Calgary trying to decide between an Africa twin and the tenere just watched your other vid (also great) helping me narrow it down, I like the tenere but I agree it needs an exhaust
@@Jaydubs2024 Honestly you can’t really go wrong either way. If you spend 90% of your time on the road the ST is better (but maybe the new AT with electronic suspension and cruise control would make it equal. I did 1300km in one day and though my Africa was very comfortable, it wasnt ST comfortable. I love the shaft drive too and tubless wheels. If you’re offroad daily, AT, hands down even though the ST is still capable for its weight. I now have a DR650 and an MT-01, still enjoying both for very different reasons :)
@@Speedytrip Thanks for the input! I’m like 70/30 highway/off-road . Im looking at a 2020 AT with the new stuff and a 2021 ST with similar mileage. Honestly I prefer the way the AT looks I think but no chain maintenance and comfort with the ST makes it a tough decision. It’ll probably come down to who gives me the better deal. Thanks again for making those vids it’s really helped me!
@@Jaydubs2024 Youll have fun on both, I have a slight preference for tge AT’s engine, but valve check is a 1000$ job and needs to be donne every 25000km on the AT and over 40000km on the ST, another aspect to consider overall the maintenance is cheaper on th ST :)
@American Dude, thanks, but it's actually been a blessing...I was laid off with a decent severance package (when I had considered leaving many times for free!), so I'm taking the summer off, for the first time in decades. I already put 2000km on my new (to me) DR650 :)
Here I am a year later, I'm buying another Super Tenere 1200 (same year, a 2021), and re-ordering the lower pegs, grey stickers and anti-glare screen protector :) I am keeping the DR650, but I'm definitely happy to buy another long distance touring bike again!
I am very glad to see you back on the top! Well done 👍
Congratulations on new bike and thanks for sharing your journey with us
Thanks for the kind words, really appreciated 🤜🤛😎
Great news I am consulting around if it good investment
Super Tenere is the best motorcycle I ever owned.
Many owners will agree with you on that, its quite a package and I hope Yamaha is working on a gen 3!
I also agree. I have done several long trips, across Australia and return twice, and also south to north via the west coast and central Western Australia. It is much mofre comfortable than my previouis XS1100's and FJ1200's for the long haul. Travelled in temops ranging from -4C (air temp) to two runs of 47C. Bike has never faultered. One trip included a 1700 km day, from Nullarbor Roadhouse (South Australia) to Perth's northern suburbs. At 40,000 km service no adjustment was required. I am sorry you had to part with yours.
Im having tons of fun on the DR and when I start working again Ill probably buy another ST and keep both bikes :)
depends on how many you've owned
I possessed six years of yamaha tdm 850 2001 year. I agree with you that this type of moto the best, universal.
Fantastic video !
You really think of everything, edit it wonderfully, and explain it clearly.
Thanks, appreciated! :)
I have a 2012 which I bought new. Two weeks after I bought it the wife would get pregnant so that would be our only good summer on it.
We did a couple 600+mile days including gravel/dirt and she found it incredibly comfortable and fell asleep often.
It is my 8th bike and replaced a KLR 650 which was flat out dangerous riding two up.
I have road track experience (sortbikes) and have been to racing school as well.
The Tenere handled better on the dirt, far better and is obviously miles better on the pavement.
Good bike super comfortable and NOT a Enduro or a real offroad bike. It does maneuver incredibly well for its size and do to the dry sump is easy to pick up and balances better than many 650 bikes.
My only complaint is for some strange reason, it is impossible to ride on Ice and I've ridden year round for two decades here in Montana. I've no Idea why.
Good bike otherwise and IMO a one bike fits all sort of ride.
I've not rode a newer model and would love to try an ES someday.
I'm not much for mods as I believe a rider makes the bike. I used to chase a guy on a old 84 two stroke 250 on the track that embarrassed so many people on the corners it was crazy.
Good luck, losing work can be scary but its an opportunity to travel and reinvent yourself.
@@outdoorfun8780 Its not a dirt bike, its a touring/adventure bike. But theres not many places I would have gone with the africa that I wouldnt have with the ST :)
Never heard of mivv until this video, it sounds awesome... might have swayed me away the arrow I was eyeing.
Well made video. Enjoyed very much. Super Tenere is a wonderful bike in my opinion. Weeks ago I also filmed the DR. :) Just keep it up. You got my like.
Very good review/information!
Thanks appreciated :)
I sold my 2015 S10 in February of this year, and I've been kicking myself ever since.
It is a fantastic bike! Since, I bought a DR650, and I havent had this much fun on 2 wheels in a long time. :)
Great video and very helpful advice, thanks!
Thanks, glad you found it helpful! :)
Great video thanks for showing everything.
You’re welcome and thanks for watching 🤜 🤛
2010 Harley RoadGlide FLTRX (1200 miles in one trip straight thru) my longest iron butt
Good, straight forward video. Subscribed. Looking for more good content from you.
Thanks, appreciated! 🤜🤛
Great video. Was wondering if you turn the traction control off, then power off the bike....does it remember that setting? Or does it reset back to some default setting. Thank You.
Thanks! Traction control is re-enabled when you restart the bike.
I noticed the Mivv was rearward vs downward firing. I take it that’s what the reflector was removed? Sounds real good though.
No, I just happened to remove the reflectors at the same time. I haven’t experienced any melting of anything :)
How do you like the exhaust after 6months? lol I own a DR650 too, the 2 best bikes ever made. I've owned a DR650 for 12 years. Stainless brake lines, pumper carb, acerbis tank, Racetech front susp. and Cogent rebuild on on the rear, Staintune full exhaust system, modified airbox. It is an unstoppable machine, I would load it up for camping trips, rode half way across Canada and all over the East coast on it, absolutely bulletproof, 95K and starts every time. I just got the S10 and have rode it across the country and back, it was the perfect bike to be on.
The S10 is definately a better touring machine, but the DR is just so much fun! I liked the exhaust on the S10, without it, it was lacking a bit of character. On the DR, I have the air box mod, new jet, 25L acerbis tank, tall seat concepts, lower pegs, bar risers, upgraded headlight bulb, and I just love it. It just goes everywhere and asks for more!
I have a Yamaha ST 2014 model. The motorcycle is excellent. It has been remapped, and the sport mode is now incredible. I installed a Mivv exhaust. I'm satisfied with it, but I feel it's a bit heavy for me. Especially when I add three cases and a passenger, the weight is quite noticeable. It hasn't been a significant issue for me, but I always feel those extra 20-30 kilograms. Last week, I rented a Honda Transalp for a week (the new model, 0 km), and I was fascinated by its lightness or mass. However, I found that motorcycle a bit underpowered, and now I'm seriously considering the Honda Africa Twin 1100 but with a DCT gearbox. I mainly ride on paved roads, very rarely on gravel, and never off-road. Almost always, there are two of us on the motorcycle, often with three cases, but always one passenger. Would it be worth it to switch to the Honda, and would the difference in weight be noticeable? In general, my Yamaha is easy to handle. I don't ride aggressively (e.g., after remapping, my fuel consumption is below 5l/100 km). Do you think that switching to a newer Honda could meet my expectations? I want the motorcycle to have power or torque, so overtaking trucks in the hills with three cases and a passenger doesn't require high revs. This Yamaha (remap + Mivv) already has enough power for that (2.8 sec from 20-100 km/h in 2nd gear). Would the difference in weight be noticeable while riding, or would investing in a new motorcycle not meet expectations after all?
I haven't tried the 1100, I had a 2017 and 2019 Africa Twin 1000, which to me was awesome for just about everything. The AT 1100 DCT is definitely worth a try, but aside from the weight difference, I'm not sure for what you are doing, that it's better than the Super Tenere. Also keep in mind the Africa is a higher maintenance bike (and valves will cost you a good 1000$ every 24000km) has a lot more electronics (not a good thing long term) and its chain driven vs drive shaft on the ST which is something to keep in mind if you ride 20000km a year. The AT is a very comfortable bike, but I wouldn't replace your ST with that without first trying it and making sure it feels the way you want it to feel. It's still a 500lbs and tall bike (so if you're looking for lighter, not sure it will be light enough). On the other hand, it's always a trade off, the weight of the ST is what makes it such a stable touring bike. Depending on your height you might also want to look into a low mileage BMW R1200RT/R1250RT, or even GS1200/GS1250, loads of torque, very low center of gravity (there's even lowered models), great wind protection, and rides like a magic carpet, I just wouldn't buy a high mileage one, unless it had a log maintenance from day 1, as if you start replacing clutch and driving shaft, the repairs will cost almost as much as what the bike is worth.
Best advice I can give you is try before you buy, there's few bad bikes, mostly bad choices. :)
@@Speedytrip Thank you for your response. You've helped me. I think I'll stick with my Super Tenere. I'm satisfied with it, and from your answer, I could conclude that the exchange isn't worth the extra money. Sure, I'd have a newer motorcycle, but investing in movable property doesn't seem like the wisest choice to me. Thanks
You’re welcome, I used to change bikes up to 3 times a year. It’s always fun to try a new bike but today I regret selling some of them, and I could probably retire 5 years earlier had I been more reasonable lol The ST is definitely the best touring bike I’ve had, I did 1300km in a day on it, and the next day I was ready to ride again. Don’t think I would have done that on the africa with the same results. I now have an old concours 14 for touring, and the ST was still way more comfortable.
Just watched your African twin vs Tenere vid and this and I’ve gotta say very well done videos I really want to see more. Can you explain how you did flat seat mod? Thanks!!
Hi thanks appreciated, its bedn a while but it was basically replacing the rubber gromets with thicker ones, theres 1-2 videos on youtube about it. Mod is cheap and well worth it! :)
Stock foot pegs are the best you can get.
Your inseam will determine if the stock pegs are the best or not, for you :)
Great video!! And very sorry you were forced to sell your ST. Quick question: can you tell me where you bought your MIVV exhaust from? I assume you shopped around and found the best and/or cheapest vendor for a Canadian customer?
Hey no worries, got a new job and have been riding 20000km on my DR650 since and I've been having an absolute blast :)
For the exhaust I bought it from Japeuna Moto on Facebook, I think it's still a part time job for him, so don't expect service like Fortnine, but he does have the best prices (sometimes by quite a bit), and he holds brands that you probably won't find anywhere else in Canada. Cheers!
@@Speedytrip Thank you for your speedy reply! I will check Japeuna Moto. And I am doing more or less the opposite: sold my DR400 and about to buy a (2018) SuperTen. Well, as long as it keeps us happy! :-)
@jala6707 Im on my 22nd or 23rd bike…change is always nice :) Youll love the ST, its a beast of a touring bike and one of the lowest maintenance bikes out there :)
6:41 yes indeed I knew you would like to do so 😂😅🎉👍🏾
Gutes Video 👍 .
Danke :)
Where did you buy your exhaust? Awesome vid by the way
Thanks ordered it in canada from Japonamoto you can find them on facebook if your in canada
@@Speedytrip Thanks for the response! I’m in Calgary trying to decide between an Africa twin and the tenere just watched your other vid (also great) helping me narrow it down, I like the tenere but I agree it needs an exhaust
@@Jaydubs2024 Honestly you can’t really go wrong either way. If you spend 90% of your time on the road the ST is better (but maybe the new AT with electronic suspension and cruise control would make it equal. I did 1300km in one day and though my Africa was very comfortable, it wasnt ST comfortable. I love the shaft drive too and tubless wheels. If you’re offroad daily, AT, hands down even though the ST is still capable for its weight. I now have a DR650 and an MT-01, still enjoying both for very different reasons :)
@@Speedytrip Thanks for the input! I’m like 70/30 highway/off-road . Im looking at a 2020 AT with the new stuff and a 2021 ST with similar mileage. Honestly I prefer the way the AT looks I think but no chain maintenance and comfort with the ST makes it a tough decision. It’ll probably come down to who gives me the better deal. Thanks again for making those vids it’s really helped me!
@@Jaydubs2024 Youll have fun on both, I have a slight preference for tge AT’s engine, but valve check is a 1000$ job and needs to be donne every 25000km on the AT and over 40000km on the ST, another aspect to consider overall the maintenance is cheaper on th ST :)
Ten er ray!
The BEST 😍😜🤙👏💪👌🤙
I slightly prefer the 2010-2013 GSA over the S10, but it was an awesome bike.
Rented a 2008 GSA in australia and it was great (and it was a rental with like 140000km on it) rode like new.
eille salut mec! J'ai fini par vendre mon africa twin et j'ai acheter une husqvarna svartpilen 401 2023
Salut mister, ca doit etre un autre trip complètement! Tres beau bike, ca doit etre un vrai jouet…bonne saison! :)
It breaks my heart you got laid off. May God bless your finances and family.
@American Dude, thanks, but it's actually been a blessing...I was laid off with a decent severance package (when I had considered leaving many times for free!), so I'm taking the summer off, for the first time in decades. I already put 2000km on my new (to me) DR650 :)
@@Speedytrip glad to hear. Ride on!
Selling a Tenere is like selling a Land Cruiser.
Don't
Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do :)