I picked up a 2020 Zero SR/F when it hit the showroom floor. Years later and I’m still smiling. I mainly use it around town for local runs and to and from work. The only time I leave it behind is when I’m going out on a group ride because the battery wouldn’t last the day. I hop on my Ducati Diavel for that. But for everything else it’s the electric.
I have a 2023 FX and it has changed my life. I have never rode a regular motorcycle, so I really have nothing to compare it to. Glad to hear someone who rides traditional bikes review a Zero. I just can't explain how much I love it. I ride out in the country and in the mountains. Its quiet which makes it nice to ride around houses and horses. No gas, no gears and basically no maintenance. Charging and range are the main inconvenience, but they don't affect me in my riding situation. I ride for a little over an hour every evening and then charge it over night. The FX battery is half the size of the SR/F battery. I feel like I'm flying a Tie Fighter. I plan to get an SR/F in 4 more years when the warranty on the battery of the FX expires. I will never be without one. Or 2.
I honestly feel a little sad when I have to go back to my 2 petrol bikes. I love them do not get me wrong but there is a itch that only electric can scratch. But most never get to know the itch because they never give it a chance.
Nice review. I own a SR/F myself and agree with what you say. I just love the feeling of a quiet, easy handling bike with tons of torque. I can ride much more agressive with this and noboddy around reacts... I used to have a Triumph Street Triple (which I loved and kind of regret selling) and ZX10R which is a bit pain to ride as a daily/commuter bike. A 1000cc bike is for me frustrating to have all the power in the world without being able to use it. On the Zero, I use full power all the time :-).
I can't thank you enough for showing the remains of the storage after the the rapid charger was fitted. Most people just say there's very little space without showing exactly how little. Totally agree about the look being ruined with the screen + rack. The cable will be going in a rucksack!
I would buy one today if I had the money, 35years of riding and lately I’ve been using TC Max for commuting and I must say I love riding it better than I do my other Petrol bikes👌
Been watching your videos for about 7 years, back in the 125 days, you deserve waaaaay more subscribers! ! I feel your pain with your back, my back went into spasm a week ago and I'm still off work! I just stepped up a kerb the wrong way and BOOM, SPAZ MODE ACTIVATED!
In a 5 years ownership for example starting from 30k miles that's where electric bike starts giving you money back in fuel , oil changes ,brakes and other consumables ! I don't know know about this but Zero S 14.4 Kwh battery pack was good for 250k ! most ice bikes fall apart not even making 30-50k ! it means that this is ideal solution for courier or fast food delivery
The noise or lack of it in the countryside hits the nail on the head. Cycling gives you that, it's almost a secret but now e-motorcycles are in on it as well.
I grabbed a used 2017 energica ego for my first bike and I'm absolutely loving it. For the company that is the sole supplier for MotoE, not many people have actually heard about them, that's where I come in and won't shut up about them, haha
Good video, mate. You forgot to mention the app for your smart phone, and the fact that you can use the app to customize performance and the dashboard. I love this bike. I got to test ride one a few weeks ago. Planning to get one later this year.
I watched all the zero videos and loved them! But I did have a honda s wing 125cc and went to a zero s 11kw 14.4 and it was the best decision ever! Thanks for your reviews they helped alot. 👍
I can't wait to see where electric bikes are in 10 more years. I just think about how much other electric tech improved over the past decade like cell phones and it's hard not to get excited about where this is all headed hopefully.
Great honest review and thoughts on petrol vs electric, I recently bought a Zero S and find that the torque can be addictive and the ease of being able to just open the throttle to overtake without thinking which gear I'm in makes the commute much more of a pleasure. I too get the response from other riders that it's too expensive and sometimes struggle to explain that you can't directly compare petrol and electric bikes on cost.
Great review. I think for me, the lack of DC charging on the Zero models is what is holding me back from replacing my existing electric motorbike (2018 Zero SR) with an SR/f.
Great review! I am going to buy the Lightning Strike myself. It's a LOT more bike for the same money. Way better suspension and mileage. 30 min charge time with the fast charger. Love your videos! 🙌👏👌✌🖖🤙👍👋🙂
Readily available and abundant torque at useable road speeds is what makes a bike enjoyable to ride😉. That’s why the DR-Z is such fun to ride 👍. Horsepower numbers sell bikes, but torque is what make them fun, because that’s what’s doing the actual work. [Horsepower (Rotational) = Torque x rpm / 5252] Sorry about the imperial units of measure, I’m from across the pond and we haven’t caught up with the rest of the world yet 😆😆🤪.
Just got into bikes, and bought my first one based off one of your reviews! As I didn't know if I'd just shit my pants first time I rode one I got a cheap petrol but I think if I get another it will be electric. They are so close on the practicality stakes. Want to see the big manufacturers get involved more though!
Great video spicy!, Just wondering now the new LXR has come out if you planned to do a review on it anytime soon as the video on the euro 4 model was great and a bit of a hit and I'm sure loads of people would want to hear your view on the new improved version, thanks Louis
I love the excitement for it Spicy. I just think that electric motorcycle miss the Mark. I mean sure the go from a standstill and pull at any speed is part of what riding a motorbike is about. But it’s also that they have the performance of a supercar for a tiny fraction of the cost. And at the normal end of the market they are far more accessible than a car ever will be for younger people. Oh and where can I find a girrter or an ottaffe?
Awesome review as always. Have you done a video debating the new e10 unleaded fuel that's coming. If not would you consider doing one as I am panicking having a cb500 2000 reg which is carbed and I am concerned if it is going to cause an issue 🤔
I've watched lots of reviews of this bike and yours is very good. I've loved riding motorcycles on the road since 1980 but just cannot bring myself to even try one. Is it an age thing? I'm 57 and maybe through rose tinted glasses I loved two strokes (had an RD250LC on Ls) Love the noise of my MT10 which was under £10K and has about the same range. I realise I'm prejudiced against electric bikes, I know they are coming but will current owners of these bikes look back with the same affection as I have for my RD in another 40 years?
Honestly mate, if you judge it by how insufferable i am to my friends, never shutting up about it? yeah, i'll still remember my love for my zero if i'm still alive in four decades.
@@gallaghergibson8024 That's good to hear, I'm guessing you are a bit younger than me. I wonder if they will be stupidly expensive as classics? Folks are asking 8 -10K of RD Lc's that I paid £1,300 for new. Ride safe and take care 👍
I’ve been researching these bikes for a couple years now, and sadly they just don’t fit…logistically. Parking, charging, storage. It’s weird, but it comes down to some simple things, but to change them at our house would be too expensive. Literally a new garage with electrics would have to be built. I could get the fxe though and park it under a back deck, but the cold weather would be an issue for the battery. Still holding out hope though. They’re growing on me. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Sorry boys to come off topic. But I came of my bike couple months ago. Front brakes failed so slammed on the back brake and slid out. Slid about 30 ft before slamming into a curb which my right arm took the brunt. Went through A&E spend about 5 to 6 hours there had X-rays no broken bones. But I’m still struggling with my right arm I have looked on google no help so want some bikers to point me in the right directions. Just want my arm to be normal I want to know how long it will take for my arm to become proper functional. Had road rash all down my right side and nerve damage in my ankle but the main problem is my arm.
go back to the doc and ask them to look at it again. I walked on a broken foot for 18 months before I found out and needed surgery. They can and do miss things, get back to the docs and they should send you on to a specialist. I am still dealing with damage from that crash in 2012 daily.
Just seen the announcement of the Zero FXE electric supermoto. It looks pretty awesome. Are you looking forward to seeing this released and test riding it? Should be out soon and priced around £10k which is definitely better than £20k. Lol
@@spicy110 I was not really keen on electric bikes, but as soon as I watched Oblivion and saw Tom Cruise ride that “electric” bike across the Icelandic landscape, I’ve been hoping someone would produce a bike like that. This Zero looks pretty dang close.
They will need to come down in price at the moment very expensive for the average person. But no doubt these are for the future so there are bound to be changes.
I recon if you do seven more reviews that the company will give you a free bike! Can we see a wheelie and burnout special before the test model goes back spicy spice?
@@spicy110 looks like you will have to scrap Derek and put the money towards a deposit for the electronic bike device thingy. Then we can get to see the wheelie and burnout!! 😁👍
Is it affordable and how out of date is it going to be in 6 months. Price isnot attractive, the range isn't enough, recharge infrastructure isn't reliable.
As soon as the refuling/recharging time is comparable to just filling up with petrol I will have one but until that speed of charge or distance of travel per charge is improved upon its a none starter. Its just not a viable day to day option for 99 % of bikers
@@unenthusiast yeah that is the biggest thing holding a commuter like me back, they need to go below £10,000 before i would consider buying one and not the 125 version i dont wanna be limited to 85mph
Great video, but I suggest you edit down your disclaimers. You only need to say once you are not blanket endorsing electric motorcycles; they cost more (compared to petrol) so may not be as good value, etc. Say it once at the beginning, then stick to the bike review.
Wish I could! lol Read the comments, If I do not strongly address that side of it, that is all the discussion will be about. Talking as someone who does this for a living and is one of the few people who review electric bikes for what they are and not for what they are not.
I do own an electric bike although not as flash as the zero. I think its the instant torque that is so appealing, however I do appreciate the lack of noise oddly enough.
Unless 20k is pocket change to you, then it is irrelevant. I could not afford your bike but that was not relevant to me when I reviewed it, same as this. Money is money and has no reflection on the value of a bike IF it costs what it costs because the tech is new and expensive....and it is that haha
@@spicy110 Problem is what do you get for your money. Katana for 12k$ gets you much more that this electrocrap in every way. There is no benefit for spending double (27k for this bike) There is no single parameter which is better. These bikes are only for influencer whores and test rides. Nobody sane buys them if there is any other alternative. You can buy even cheap or used 600ccm bike and it would still be better.
its is electric it is not the same thing it can not be the same cost. If you ever get the chance to take a spin on one you will see. I have covered all this pretty well in video.
@@TheSkace There are plenty of difference, some will be objective advantages like less maintenance and others will be subjective like less noise. I could list of plenty of reasons why I prefer electric bikes and while they may not apply to you that is irrelevant, you don't have to buy or ride one. If someone does prefer them then just perhaps the advantages they offer justify the extra cost.
Throughout the 1970s universities had annual competitions developing different engines with the future fuel in mind. It took into consideration the efficiency of the fuel, how easily it is to obtain, it's environmental impact etc. There were a myriad of differently powered vehicles. Every year the winner was a combustion system powered by hydrogen. The most expensive, least economical and negative environmental impact was electric. Petrol and diesel out performed electric in all areas. If electric vehicles were to become the norm, this planet would suffer colossal devastating consequences and that's based on 1970s vehicle capacity. Additionally, there is simply not enough cobalt and lithium on the planet to sustain electric vehicles. The quest to locate the materials for electric would turn the entire planet into an open cast mine. The only way eutectic vehicles could become the norm is if the global population was massively reduced, and hardly any personal vehicles available.
@@spicy110 The tests halted in the Thatcher era when the world shifted more heavily towards globalist goals. Much of the hydrogen technology/publicity was suppressed. However, developers will still tell you there's only sustainable transport and infrastructure fuel is geothermal and hydrogen and that is simply cos it is abundant and has hardly any environmental impact. If back in the 1970s they were asserting there isn't enough lithium and cobalt for electric powered vehicles then I'd hypothesise that is certainly relevant in 2021. I know you don't really want to address the politics of fuel in your video but they are inseparable, especially when talking about electric vehicles. If electric vehicles are mandatory you, me and the majority of people will not have access to them. or our species (along with many others) will go extinct in its quest to realise the electric dream. There is also another factor to bear in mind when sitting on top of a high powered battery and that's its electromagnetic radiation which could potentially create negative health issues far greater than fossil fuel powered combustion engines.
yes I don't really want to get in to it but I will give view on this as I think I can say a few things for sure. The thing is what we knew 40-50 years ago is a different era of science, I do not think it has much or any relevance today. Also on simple terms how is hydrogen made? often with electrolysis, there are better ways but that they all take lots of power to produce. Then look at the delivery of this energy. We would need a lot of fuel stations to convert from liquid tanks to gas tanks and the gas will need to be transported in trucks to these stations. This is incredibly dangerous more so than petrol (I ran a petrol station for 3 years so I know a little about the industry) What would be ideal would be a system where the energy could be made anywhere and instantly piped to everywhere that needs it at the rates it is needed. What would be even better is if most of that system was already installed underground and to every building in the country....I think you can see where I am going with this. The fact we have a system in place that can be upgraded as needed and everyone is going with electric 99% of the time for non fossil fuels shows it is likely to be what we have if its is truly the best or not because of the net gain of having wires in place now. I am fully open to what ever comes along but i can not ignore facts and logic. while on facts I have to say this "bear in mind when sitting on top of a high powered battery and that's its electromagnetic radiation which could potentially create negative health issues far greater than fossil fuel powered combustion engines." This is flat out scientifically wrong for a few reasons and is getting a little to close to 5g crackpottery. From cancer.gov "Unlike high-energy (ionizing) radiation, EMFs in the non-ionizing part of the electromagnetic spectrum cannot damage DNA or cells directly. Some scientists have speculated that ELF-EMFs could cause cancer through other mechanisms, such as by reducing levels of the hormone melatonin" I knew this but wanted to quote a good source. Ok that is just cancer but If you think EMF can hurt you you, you might want to look in to how much EMF is in your house from every electrical wire and device. Also the SUN the bringer of all life...quote "EMF occur both naturally (e.g., visible light from our sun) and artificially (light from an LED; communication waves for AM/FM radio, smartphones, and Wi-Fi routers; x-rays for medical examinations; gamma-rays emitted from a thermonuclear reaction; etc.)." As for lithium, there are a few other much better battery chemistry's being worked on atm. I very much doubt lithium will be what we use in years to come. I mean it has only been used for 30 years. "A prototype Li-ion battery was developed by Akira Yoshino in 1985, based on earlier research by John Goodenough, M. Stanley Whittingham, Rachid Yazami and Koichi Mizushima during the 1970s-1980s, and then a commercial Li-ion battery was developed by a Sony and Asahi Kasei team led by Yoshio Nishi in 1991." What will happen I do not know but there are facts and logic we can work with.
Things have changed significantly since the 70s to make EVs much more viable. Not only has the EV technology itself improved (better performance, efficiency, charging speed, longer lasting, etc.) but also where the energy to power them comes from, with much more of it coming from more environmentally friendly or even renewable sources.
@@spicy110 There have and still remain numerous hydrogen powered vehicles that have electrolysis converters fitted to converted internal combustion engines. After significant pressure from oil companies many of the hydrogen technologies were bought up and shelved. There is also the myth that hydrogen is difficult and dangerous to store in a compressed liquid form as with propane, butane and cannot be delivered safely at fuel stations. This myth was perpetuated by the oil industry, particularly Standard Oil after the Hindenburg disaster. History has proven the Hindenburg disaster was an act of sabotage with which the oil industry used to capitalise and fortify its monopoly on the fuel industry. Hydrogen powered vehicles aren't the future, they're already here. It is not an issue of if they come to market but when. The only thing holding hydrogen back is politics and monopolies. Hydrogen can be manufactured easily wherever there is water, which is everywhere, even under deserts. For large scale energy production hydrogen is not required. Geothermal power is the only credible long term sustainable, low environmental impact power source. Iceland is a perfect example of this. Go see how cobalt & lithium is mined over in Africa and decide if you support this technology which is due to expand exponentially if we continue with the electric dream. Then there's the disposal of cells which have a far lower life than the ICE. We can't hope and wait for the technology to improve because the motivation for development is profit. That equates to the maximum resources being harvested in the fastest most efficient manner to convert into products to create profits. The political ideology of today is far more committed to this than it was in the 70s where then, a far slower and less profit based lifestyle was the norm, with a greater view to civic improvement rather than personal self fulfillment through capital wealth. There is fierce debate on the effects of non-ionizing radiation on the human and other living organisms. The tech industries using wireless technologies have long known there are potential serious health risks from bathing living organisms in NOR. There are numerous peer reviewed scientific studies proving that continued use of mobile devices, especially when held against the body WILL potentially lead to serious health issues such as cancer, particularly brain tumours. There has been a huge rise in brain tumours since the widespread use of mobile phones. Apple now issue a warning in there iPhone instruction manuals, stating the phones should be held at least 10cms away from the body at all times. In the field of wired power & wireless communications it has been suggested many times for the past hundred years the precautionary principle must be observed. However, the lack of regulation and huge capital interests have enabled health issues to be side stepped. This is a very similar situation as was experienced with the tobacco industries. You cited cancer.gov as a credible source. I would argue the contrary as would many other scientists. I'm alarmed you dismissed 5G as crackpottery. The 5G system is a millimeter wave high intensity EMF. It is the same tech used in airport scanners derived from the battlefield. It is used in gun sights (MMS), heads up displays (HUD max use of 10 mins before occular degenerative impact) and as a high pulse active denial weapon system, commonly referred to as direct energy weapons. 5G is also referred to in the military as a battlefield interrogation system where it is used to locate enemy targets. These systems are prohibited in civilian occupied positions by international law, yet the infrastructure is being deployed globally in civilian occupied positions WITHOUT the required safety assessments. This is a fully documented, real technology with mind-blowing high risk health implications. No councils are able to obtain insurance policies covering these technologies. A simple FOI will confirm. The past is and will always be relevant to the present otherwise there's no need for historians and no reference from which to know where we are and how we got here. History and science doesn't skip along like flat stones over water. These disciplines clearly show the progression of ideas, technologies and the behaviours of human beings among them. There is always a political agenda and it's always to benefit those who control the narrative, see The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. As governments all over the world have sworn allegiance to globalisation, (the modern term for the combination of fascism and communism) they have clearly stated on numerous occasions, they're not waiting for the safety standards on the 5G roll-out, they're going full steam ahead. This is why I'd argue something as simple as electric vehicles is in fact inseparable from politics particularly in this climate where all governments who've signed up to the globalist strategy and stake holder capitalism, which is nearly all of them, are all operating unlawfully, under emergency powers, which are illegal and contravene unalienable human rights and are completely devoid of any scrutiny. There is no accountability, censorship is rife and a clear shift towards elimination of all freedom. We can witness this clearly by observing the current bills going through parliament in the UK to limit protests and free speech. Electric vehicles can and will be externally controlled through the 5G network as part of the internet of things strategy if successful. I agree electric bikes are a massive hoot but what lies beneath them is massive hurt.
I really don't get the fascination with electric bikes right now. Even when the petrol ban comes in 2030 bikes will still have petrol engines because they come under the emissions limit. Post 2030 you'll still be able to buy ICE bikes 🤷♂️ Eventually electric bikes will become the only option, but by then we'll either be too old to ride or the batteries will last 1000 miles per charge. I'm definitely waiting this one out.
As I state in the video an electric bike is not a petrol bike. Electrics have really good qualities over petrol from them not being petrol. Lithium ion batts have only been used since 1991 yes the whole tech has only been in use for 30 years and that was made for a sony device. Before 2030 I bet you we have a new much better batt tech and I hope the prices and infrastructure is there too, not as a replacement but as another option. I would love to try a hydrogen motorcycle too but as far as I know they do not exist in a useable form.
@@spicy110 yeah I know, and all I'm saying is petrol bikes aren't going away, so there's no need for a replacement anyway 🤷♂️ £20k is a very expensive toy. I hope they get much better too but in the next 8.5 years? I just don't see it. They new generation batteries they're going to be building at Volt in Blyth and Nissan in Sunderland are a slight improvement over the current ones, there won't be a quantum leap in technology before 2030, or the big automotive manufacturers would be hanging on for that, not spending £1 billion on a plant that would be outdated in 5-10 years. I wouldn't fancy a high pressure nitrogen tank that close to the plums in all honesty 🤣
celine dion dosnt work gov wont mandate what cd u listen too - so yes its somthing dif to ride but we can not stop voicing our wants and needs in oz i cant ride 1000km to birth of my child if it was needed right. yes id like elct for around town fun days but cant lock us out of ice cars and bikes
@@spicy110 yar and 5 years ago saying ur pug dog saluted hit wouldn't send u to court. if enough greenies whine i fear for loosing the ice bikes nice review tho id buy it if had the $ sitting there. or rent to own deal
Like riding an oversized sewing machine. Good power. Average handling. And zero soul or personality. I didn’t dislike it. It’d be great for a commuter if it wasn’t so expensive. I just don’t know what it’s for.
Well there’s no classic engine to give you a gyro effect and the lack of vibrations and noise makes you focus on what actually happens around you and on the road. I don’t get the noisy, polluting and annoying combustion engine bikes anymore. My next one will be electric. Hell in the city since I bought electric bicycle I even sold the motorcycle. It was a dinosaur which was not been used anymore.
Where is the scam? If you mean the way they lock things on bikes behind paywalls I do not agree with it and have voiced this. However they make bikes and people will buy them and it is down to them to do that. I just review a machine.
Zero motorcycle are a joke and a major ripoff. U are better off with an affordable chinese brand. I would never buy those zero great POS! This is the reason why zero will disappear as a company and go bankrupt. No wonder they are called zero, as in you get zero value! Stay away from this electric crap!💩💩💩💩
@@eddsramm1 No one is butthurt, you just posted the same comment accrss a couple of videos. i just asked for context. Why do you say Zero is a "a joke and a major ripoff" if you owned one you must be able to state the issues you had.
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I picked up a 2020 Zero SR/F when it hit the showroom floor. Years later and I’m still smiling. I mainly use it around town for local runs and to and from work. The only time I leave it behind is when I’m going out on a group ride because the battery wouldn’t last the day. I hop on my Ducati Diavel for that. But for everything else it’s the electric.
I have a 2023 FX and it has changed my life. I have never rode a regular motorcycle, so I really have nothing to compare it to. Glad to hear someone who rides traditional bikes review a Zero. I just can't explain how much I love it. I ride out in the country and in the mountains. Its quiet which makes it nice to ride around houses and horses. No gas, no gears and basically no maintenance. Charging and range are the main inconvenience, but they don't affect me in my riding situation. I ride for a little over an hour every evening and then charge it over night. The FX battery is half the size of the SR/F battery. I feel like I'm flying a Tie Fighter. I plan to get an SR/F in 4 more years when the warranty on the battery of the FX expires. I will never be without one. Or 2.
I honestly feel a little sad when I have to go back to my 2 petrol bikes. I love them do not get me wrong but there is a itch that only electric can scratch. But most never get to know the itch because they never give it a chance.
Nice review. I own a SR/F myself and agree with what you say. I just love the feeling of a quiet, easy handling bike with tons of torque. I can ride much more agressive with this and noboddy around reacts...
I used to have a Triumph Street Triple (which I loved and kind of regret selling) and ZX10R which is a bit pain to ride as a daily/commuter bike. A 1000cc bike is for me frustrating to have all the power in the world without being able to use it. On the Zero, I use full power all the time :-).
I can't thank you enough for showing the remains of the storage after the the rapid charger was fitted. Most people just say there's very little space without showing exactly how little.
Totally agree about the look being ruined with the screen + rack. The cable will be going in a rucksack!
I would buy one today if I had the money, 35years of riding and lately I’ve been using TC Max for commuting and I must say I love riding it better than I do my other Petrol bikes👌
I have reviewed the TC max it was a lot of fun for sure!
@@spicy110 I did watch those reviews and actually was the deciding factor when I bought one, thanks, excellent reviews 👌
I have a TC max either and enjoy it!
Been watching your videos for about 7 years, back in the 125 days, you deserve waaaaay more subscribers!
! I feel your pain with your back, my back went into spasm a week ago and I'm still off work! I just stepped up a kerb the wrong way and BOOM, SPAZ MODE ACTIVATED!
In a 5 years ownership for example starting from 30k miles that's where electric bike starts giving you money back in fuel , oil changes ,brakes and other consumables ! I don't know know about this but Zero S 14.4 Kwh battery pack was good for 250k ! most ice bikes fall apart not even making 30-50k ! it means that this is ideal solution for courier or fast food delivery
The noise or lack of it in the countryside hits the nail on the head. Cycling gives you that, it's almost a secret but now e-motorcycles are in on it as well.
Agreed, I have a ebike specifically for when I want to go out without my loud ass mt07 but dont quite want to put in the effort my push bike takes.
I grabbed a used 2017 energica ego for my first bike and I'm absolutely loving it. For the company that is the sole supplier for MotoE, not many people have actually heard about them, that's where I come in and won't shut up about them, haha
been waiting over a year to get my hand on a energica it will happen
@@spicy110 hopefully you can pick up a new one with the new more powerful motor
@@spicy110 this comment might actually make me subscribe to my first channel ever...so wanna see spicy on an ego hahaha
Totally dream bikes! Love my DS! Love to ride with these electric drive trains with instant torque. Nice review! :-)
Having owned my srf i can honestly say your correct about this bike . they are just pure fun bikes ,100 mile a day of sheer fun and iam done .
Good video, mate. You forgot to mention the app for your smart phone, and the fact that you can use the app to customize performance and the dashboard. I love this bike. I got to test ride one a few weeks ago. Planning to get one later this year.
I watched all the zero videos and loved them! But I did have a honda s wing 125cc and went to a zero s 11kw 14.4 and it was the best decision ever! Thanks for your reviews they helped alot. 👍
So this is my new dream bike now,
wow I love it, looks amazing and that sound it makes when accelerating is quite cool!
I can't wait to see where electric bikes are in 10 more years. I just think about how much other electric tech improved over the past decade like cell phones and it's hard not to get excited about where this is all headed hopefully.
In the last decade, batteries didn't improve that much although a lot of effort has been made. So I wouldn't hold my breath.
Great honest review and thoughts on petrol vs electric, I recently bought a Zero S and find that the torque can be addictive and the ease of being able to just open the throttle to overtake without thinking which gear I'm in makes the commute much more of a pleasure. I too get the response from other riders that it's too expensive and sometimes struggle to explain that you can't directly compare petrol and electric bikes on cost.
I'm getting more and more interested in electric bikes and cars, but £20k is a lot of dosh.
The FXS as a second bike would be great and its half the cost, still not cheap mind.
Great review.
I think for me, the lack of DC charging on the Zero models is what is holding me back from replacing my existing electric motorbike (2018 Zero SR) with an SR/f.
Great review! I am going to buy the Lightning Strike myself. It's a LOT more bike for the same money. Way better suspension and mileage. 30 min charge time with the fast charger. Love your videos!
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Ooo will have to look in to that one!
Readily available and abundant torque at useable road speeds is what makes a bike enjoyable to ride😉. That’s why the DR-Z is such fun to ride 👍. Horsepower numbers sell bikes, but torque is what make them fun, because that’s what’s doing the actual work. [Horsepower (Rotational) = Torque x rpm / 5252] Sorry about the imperial units of measure, I’m from across the pond and we haven’t caught up with the rest of the world yet 😆😆🤪.
EXSACLY!!! So few people get this, or value is less in a game of top trumps.
Just got into bikes, and bought my first one based off one of your reviews! As I didn't know if I'd just shit my pants first time I rode one I got a cheap petrol but I think if I get another it will be electric. They are so close on the practicality stakes. Want to see the big manufacturers get involved more though!
yes we really need the big 4 to start making something, electric hydrogen what ever it is I would be good to see what they think is the future.
Hey dude, off video topic but I just want to say I watched your Mod 2 tips video before my test today and I passed :D
That is awesome! 😁
Beautiful, lovely country roads in the UK.
Great video spicy!, Just wondering now the new LXR has come out if you planned to do a review on it anytime soon as the video on the euro 4 model was great and a bit of a hit and I'm sure loads of people would want to hear your view on the new improved version, thanks Louis
How do you charge your phone while riding when using GPS
I love the excitement for it Spicy. I just think that electric motorcycle miss the Mark. I mean sure the go from a standstill and pull at any speed is part of what riding a motorbike is about. But it’s also that they have the performance of a supercar for a tiny fraction of the cost. And at the normal end of the market they are far more accessible than a car ever will be for younger people.
Oh and where can I find a girrter or an ottaffe?
Awesome review as always. Have you done a video debating the new e10 unleaded fuel that's coming. If not would you consider doing one as I am panicking having a cb500 2000 reg which is carbed and I am concerned if it is going to cause an issue 🤔
I only say this because I know you like physics: drag increases with the square of the speed, not exponentially :p
Thank you 🙂👍 you knew what I meant but I defo said it wrong.
I've watched lots of reviews of this bike and yours is very good. I've loved riding motorcycles on the road since 1980 but just cannot bring myself to even try one.
Is it an age thing? I'm 57 and maybe through rose tinted glasses I loved two strokes (had an RD250LC on Ls) Love the noise of my MT10 which was under £10K and has about the same range.
I realise I'm prejudiced against electric bikes, I know they are coming but will current owners of these bikes look back with the same affection as I have for my RD in another 40 years?
Honestly mate, if you judge it by how insufferable i am to my friends, never shutting up about it? yeah, i'll still remember my love for my zero if i'm still alive in four decades.
@@gallaghergibson8024 That's good to hear, I'm guessing you are a bit younger than me. I wonder if they will be stupidly expensive as classics? Folks are asking 8 -10K of RD Lc's that I paid £1,300 for new.
Ride safe and take care 👍
I’ve been researching these bikes for a couple years now, and sadly they just don’t fit…logistically. Parking, charging, storage. It’s weird, but it comes down to some simple things, but to change them at our house would be too expensive. Literally a new garage with electrics would have to be built. I could get the fxe though and park it under a back deck, but the cold weather would be an issue for the battery. Still holding out hope though. They’re growing on me. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Sorry boys to come off topic. But I came of my bike couple months ago. Front brakes failed so slammed on the back brake and slid out. Slid about 30 ft before slamming into a curb which my right arm took the brunt. Went through A&E spend about 5 to 6 hours there had X-rays no broken bones. But I’m still struggling with my right arm I have looked on google no help so want some bikers to point me in the right directions. Just want my arm to be normal I want to know how long it will take for my arm to become proper functional. Had road rash all down my right side and nerve damage in my ankle but the main problem is my arm.
go back to the doc and ask them to look at it again. I walked on a broken foot for 18 months before I found out and needed surgery. They can and do miss things, get back to the docs and they should send you on to a specialist. I am still dealing with damage from that crash in 2012 daily.
One big issue with electric bikes, you will never be able to buy used bike like zero for £1,500 with 13k miles on it like I did with my zx-6r j1
Why not?
Very good review.
Just seen the announcement of the Zero FXE electric supermoto. It looks pretty awesome. Are you looking forward to seeing this released and test riding it? Should be out soon and priced around £10k which is definitely better than £20k. Lol
Yes it is a bike I will be reviewing this year all being well.
@@spicy110 I was not really keen on electric bikes, but as soon as I watched Oblivion and saw Tom Cruise ride that “electric” bike across the Icelandic landscape, I’ve been hoping someone would produce a bike like that. This Zero looks pretty dang close.
Reminds me of my childhood and battery operated toys, sucks when they go flat ✌
you had better toys than me! Hahaha
@@spicy110 Could you imagine if you had to put petrol in your toys and change the oil,electric is the future.
They will need to come down in price at the moment very expensive for the average person. But no doubt these are for the future so there are bound to be changes.
I recon if you do seven more reviews that the company will give you a free bike!
Can we see a wheelie and burnout special before the test model goes back spicy spice?
Sadly the bike went back 10 days ago, also I do not think they would be happy if I did but I really do want to do a electric burnout haha
@@spicy110 looks like you will have to scrap Derek and put the money towards a deposit for the electronic bike device thingy.
Then we can get to see the wheelie and burnout!!
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Do you know what sort of licence I would need too ride this? A2, A1? Cheers
A1 is 125cc so defo not, You need a full A licence
Zero has bikes specifically to meet the A1 or A2 requirements
2019 i made a big mistake and bought a Zero SR, now i'm NO longer ride my petrol bike
Is it affordable and how out of date is it going to be in 6 months. Price isnot attractive, the range isn't enough, recharge infrastructure isn't reliable.
I can't afford one. Doesn't stop me wanting one!
Same and it hurts hahaha
As soon as the refuling/recharging time is comparable to just filling up with petrol I will have one but until that speed of charge or distance of travel per charge is improved upon its a none starter. Its just not a viable day to day option for 99 % of bikers
Cost aside, it could actually be perfect for 99% of bikers that only do a certain mileage day to day!
@@unenthusiast you can't just cast aside cost though can you !!!
@@unenthusiast yeah that is the biggest thing holding a commuter like me back, they need to go below £10,000 before i would consider buying one and not the 125 version i dont wanna be limited to 85mph
Great video, but I suggest you edit down your disclaimers. You only need to say once you are not blanket endorsing electric motorcycles; they cost more (compared to petrol) so may not be as good value, etc. Say it once at the beginning, then stick to the bike review.
Wish I could! lol Read the comments, If I do not strongly address that side of it, that is all the discussion will be about. Talking as someone who does this for a living and is one of the few people who review electric bikes for what they are and not for what they are not.
It's like flying because it's silent
11:28 my bike has 10.5nm 🙃 I need to pass my test.
I do own an electric bike although not as flash as the zero. I think its the instant torque that is so appealing, however I do appreciate the lack of noise oddly enough.
You wanna try Energica Ego
I got a used one and I'm loving it. Not many people know about them sadly
On a motorway You can get better mileage with SR/S
Its fun to ride and borrow that, but not fun to pay for that. I prefer my Suzuki Katana 2020
Unless 20k is pocket change to you, then it is irrelevant. I could not afford your bike but that was not relevant to me when I reviewed it, same as this. Money is money and has no reflection on the value of a bike IF it costs what it costs because the tech is new and expensive....and it is that haha
@@spicy110 Problem is what do you get for your money. Katana for 12k$ gets you much more that this electrocrap in every way. There is no benefit for spending double (27k for this bike) There is no single parameter which is better. These bikes are only for influencer whores and test rides. Nobody sane buys them if there is any other alternative.
You can buy even cheap or used 600ccm bike and it would still be better.
its is electric it is not the same thing it can not be the same cost. If you ever get the chance to take a spin on one you will see. I have covered all this pretty well in video.
@@spicy110 Ok give me one example, why its better than katana (or any gsx1000)
@@TheSkace There are plenty of difference, some will be objective advantages like less maintenance and others will be subjective like less noise. I could list of plenty of reasons why I prefer electric bikes and while they may not apply to you that is irrelevant, you don't have to buy or ride one. If someone does prefer them then just perhaps the advantages they offer justify the extra cost.
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Throughout the 1970s universities had annual competitions developing different engines with the future fuel in mind. It took into consideration the efficiency of the fuel, how easily it is to obtain, it's environmental impact etc.
There were a myriad of differently powered vehicles.
Every year the winner was a combustion system powered by hydrogen. The most expensive, least economical and negative environmental impact was electric. Petrol and diesel out performed electric in all areas.
If electric vehicles were to become the norm, this planet would suffer colossal devastating consequences and that's based on 1970s vehicle capacity. Additionally, there is simply not enough cobalt and lithium on the planet to sustain electric vehicles. The quest to locate the materials for electric would turn the entire planet into an open cast mine.
The only way eutectic vehicles could become the norm is if the global population was massively reduced, and hardly any personal vehicles available.
Did they only do these tests in the 70's? Also irrelevant to this video as clearly started.
@@spicy110 The tests halted in the Thatcher era when the world shifted more heavily towards globalist goals.
Much of the hydrogen technology/publicity was suppressed. However, developers will still tell you there's only sustainable transport and infrastructure fuel is geothermal and hydrogen and that is simply cos it is abundant and has hardly any environmental impact.
If back in the 1970s they were asserting there isn't enough lithium and cobalt for electric powered vehicles then I'd hypothesise that is certainly relevant in 2021.
I know you don't really want to address the politics of fuel in your video but they are inseparable, especially when talking about electric vehicles.
If electric vehicles are mandatory you, me and the majority of people will not have access to them. or our species (along with many others) will go extinct in its quest to realise the electric dream.
There is also another factor to bear in mind when sitting on top of a high powered battery and that's its electromagnetic radiation which could potentially create negative health issues far greater than fossil fuel powered combustion engines.
yes I don't really want to get in to it but I will give view on this as I think I can say a few things for sure. The thing is what we knew 40-50 years ago is a different era of science, I do not think it has much or any relevance today. Also on simple terms how is hydrogen made? often with electrolysis, there are better ways but that they all take lots of power to produce. Then look at the delivery of this energy. We would need a lot of fuel stations to convert from liquid tanks to gas tanks and the gas will need to be transported in trucks to these stations. This is incredibly dangerous more so than petrol (I ran a petrol station for 3 years so I know a little about the industry)
What would be ideal would be a system where the energy could be made anywhere and instantly piped to everywhere that needs it at the rates it is needed. What would be even better is if most of that system was already installed underground and to every building in the country....I think you can see where I am going with this. The fact we have a system in place that can be upgraded as needed and everyone is going with electric 99% of the time for non fossil fuels shows it is likely to be what we have if its is truly the best or not because of the net gain of having wires in place now. I am fully open to what ever comes along but i can not ignore facts and logic.
while on facts I have to say this "bear in mind when sitting on top of a high powered battery and that's its electromagnetic radiation which could potentially create negative health issues far greater than fossil fuel powered combustion engines."
This is flat out scientifically wrong for a few reasons and is getting a little to close to 5g crackpottery.
From cancer.gov "Unlike high-energy (ionizing) radiation, EMFs in the non-ionizing part of the electromagnetic spectrum cannot damage DNA or cells directly. Some scientists have speculated that ELF-EMFs could cause cancer through other mechanisms, such as by reducing levels of the hormone melatonin"
I knew this but wanted to quote a good source. Ok that is just cancer but If you think EMF can hurt you you, you might want to look in to how much EMF is in your house from every electrical wire and device. Also the SUN the bringer of all life...quote "EMF occur both naturally (e.g., visible light from our sun) and artificially (light from an LED; communication waves for AM/FM radio, smartphones, and Wi-Fi routers; x-rays for medical examinations; gamma-rays emitted from a thermonuclear reaction; etc.)."
As for lithium, there are a few other much better battery chemistry's being worked on atm. I very much doubt lithium will be what we use in years to come. I mean it has only been used for 30 years.
"A prototype Li-ion battery was developed by Akira Yoshino in 1985, based on earlier research by John Goodenough, M. Stanley Whittingham, Rachid Yazami and Koichi Mizushima during the 1970s-1980s, and then a commercial Li-ion battery was developed by a Sony and Asahi Kasei team led by Yoshio Nishi in 1991."
What will happen I do not know but there are facts and logic we can work with.
Things have changed significantly since the 70s to make EVs much more viable. Not only has the EV technology itself improved (better performance, efficiency, charging speed, longer lasting, etc.) but also where the energy to power them comes from, with much more of it coming from more environmentally friendly or even renewable sources.
@@spicy110 There have and still remain numerous hydrogen powered vehicles that have electrolysis converters fitted to converted internal combustion engines. After significant pressure from oil companies many of the hydrogen technologies were bought up and shelved. There is also the myth that hydrogen is difficult and dangerous to store in a compressed liquid form as with propane, butane and cannot be delivered safely at fuel stations. This myth was perpetuated by the oil industry, particularly Standard Oil after the Hindenburg disaster. History has proven the Hindenburg disaster was an act of sabotage with which the oil industry used to capitalise and fortify its monopoly on the fuel industry.
Hydrogen powered vehicles aren't the future, they're already here. It is not an issue of if they come to market but when. The only thing holding hydrogen back is politics and monopolies. Hydrogen can be manufactured easily wherever there is water, which is everywhere, even under deserts.
For large scale energy production hydrogen is not required. Geothermal power is the only credible long term sustainable, low environmental impact power source. Iceland is a perfect example of this.
Go see how cobalt & lithium is mined over in Africa and decide if you support this technology which is due to expand exponentially if we continue with the electric dream.
Then there's the disposal of cells which have a far lower life than the ICE.
We can't hope and wait for the technology to improve because the motivation for development is profit. That equates to the maximum resources being harvested in the fastest most efficient manner to convert into products to create profits. The political ideology of today is far more committed to this than it was in the 70s where then, a far slower and less profit based lifestyle was the norm, with a greater view to civic improvement rather than personal self fulfillment through capital wealth.
There is fierce debate on the effects of non-ionizing radiation on the human and other living organisms. The tech industries using wireless technologies have long known there are potential serious health risks from bathing living organisms in NOR. There are numerous peer reviewed scientific studies proving that continued use of mobile devices, especially when held against the body WILL potentially lead to serious health issues such as cancer, particularly brain tumours. There has been a huge rise in brain tumours since the widespread use of mobile phones. Apple now issue a warning in there iPhone instruction manuals, stating the phones should be held at least 10cms away from the body at all times.
In the field of wired power & wireless communications it has been suggested many times for the past hundred years the precautionary principle must be observed. However, the lack of regulation and huge capital interests have enabled health issues to be side stepped. This is a very similar situation as was experienced with the tobacco industries. You cited cancer.gov as a credible source. I would argue the contrary as would many other scientists.
I'm alarmed you dismissed 5G as crackpottery. The 5G system is a millimeter wave high intensity EMF. It is the same tech used in airport scanners derived from the battlefield. It is used in gun sights (MMS), heads up displays (HUD max use of 10 mins before occular degenerative impact) and as a high pulse active denial weapon system, commonly referred to as direct energy weapons. 5G is also referred to in the military as a battlefield interrogation system where it is used to locate enemy targets. These systems are prohibited in civilian occupied positions by international law, yet the infrastructure is being deployed globally in civilian occupied positions WITHOUT the required safety assessments. This is a fully documented, real technology with mind-blowing high risk health implications. No councils are able to obtain insurance policies covering these technologies. A simple FOI will confirm.
The past is and will always be relevant to the present otherwise there's no need for historians and no reference from which to know where we are and how we got here. History and science doesn't skip along like flat stones over water. These disciplines clearly show the progression of ideas, technologies and the behaviours of human beings among them. There is always a political agenda and it's always to benefit those who control the narrative, see The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli.
As governments all over the world have sworn allegiance to globalisation, (the modern term for the combination of fascism and communism) they have clearly stated on numerous occasions, they're not waiting for the safety standards on the 5G roll-out, they're going full steam ahead.
This is why I'd argue something as simple as electric vehicles is in fact inseparable from politics particularly in this climate where all governments who've signed up to the globalist strategy and stake holder capitalism, which is nearly all of them, are all operating unlawfully, under emergency powers, which are illegal and contravene unalienable human rights and are completely devoid of any scrutiny.
There is no accountability, censorship is rife and a clear shift towards elimination of all freedom. We can witness this clearly by observing the current bills going through parliament in the UK to limit protests and free speech.
Electric vehicles can and will be externally controlled through the 5G network as part of the internet of things strategy if successful.
I agree electric bikes are a massive hoot but what lies beneath them is massive hurt.
I really don't get the fascination with electric bikes right now. Even when the petrol ban comes in 2030 bikes will still have petrol engines because they come under the emissions limit. Post 2030 you'll still be able to buy ICE bikes 🤷♂️
Eventually electric bikes will become the only option, but by then we'll either be too old to ride or the batteries will last 1000 miles per charge. I'm definitely waiting this one out.
As I state in the video an electric bike is not a petrol bike. Electrics have really good qualities over petrol from them not being petrol. Lithium ion batts have only been used since 1991 yes the whole tech has only been in use for 30 years and that was made for a sony device. Before 2030 I bet you we have a new much better batt tech and I hope the prices and infrastructure is there too, not as a replacement but as another option.
I would love to try a hydrogen motorcycle too but as far as I know they do not exist in a useable form.
@@spicy110 yeah I know, and all I'm saying is petrol bikes aren't going away, so there's no need for a replacement anyway 🤷♂️ £20k is a very expensive toy.
I hope they get much better too but in the next 8.5 years? I just don't see it. They new generation batteries they're going to be building at Volt in Blyth and Nissan in Sunderland are a slight improvement over the current ones, there won't be a quantum leap in technology before 2030, or the big automotive manufacturers would be hanging on for that, not spending £1 billion on a plant that would be outdated in 5-10 years.
I wouldn't fancy a high pressure nitrogen tank that close to the plums in all honesty 🤣
Ugh music over the engine noise, we want to hear her roar!! 😝
This is a joke right? haha
@@spicy110 yes 😁
oh thank god! haha
celine dion dosnt work
gov wont mandate what cd u listen too - so yes its somthing dif to ride but we can not stop voicing our wants and needs
in oz i cant ride 1000km to birth of my child if it was needed right. yes id like elct for around town fun days but cant lock us out of ice cars and bikes
At this point in time there is no laws saying motorcycles can not be ICE, They are not on the 2030 (or what ever year it is now) proposed plan.
@@spicy110 yar and 5 years ago saying ur pug dog saluted hit wouldn't send u to court. if enough greenies whine i fear for loosing the ice bikes nice review tho id buy it if had the $ sitting there. or rent to own deal
Really excellent review spicy. I love that you love it so much. 🙂
crotch haha
Like riding an oversized sewing machine. Good power. Average handling. And zero soul or personality. I didn’t dislike it. It’d be great for a commuter if it wasn’t so expensive. I just don’t know what it’s for.
Well there’s no classic engine to give you a gyro effect and the lack of vibrations and noise makes you focus on what actually happens around you and on the road. I don’t get the noisy, polluting and annoying combustion engine bikes anymore. My next one will be electric. Hell in the city since I bought electric bicycle I even sold the motorcycle. It was a dinosaur which was not been used anymore.
Hi I would never buy a one of them or car not reliable as petrol bike or car sorry me old school
That is find but not as reliable as a petrol? Are you sure about that? ruclips.net/video/zOaqLn3yw24/видео.html
Don't support this scam company
Where is the scam? If you mean the way they lock things on bikes behind paywalls I do not agree with it and have voiced this. However they make bikes and people will buy them and it is down to them to do that. I just review a machine.
Zero motorcycle are a joke and a major ripoff. U are better off with an affordable chinese brand. I would never buy those zero great POS! This is the reason why zero will disappear as a company and go bankrupt. No wonder they are called zero, as in you get zero value! Stay away from this electric crap!💩💩💩💩
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I didn't mean to make anyone butthurt I just my experience and everyone else I know that has owned one.
@@eddsramm1 No one is butthurt, you just posted the same comment accrss a couple of videos. i just asked for context. Why do you say Zero is a "a joke and a major ripoff" if you owned one you must be able to state the issues you had.
Obviously someone is butthurt. Sorry if you own one of these girls bikes. 👧
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