I'm 26, I rode a Pulse Adrenaline 125 for 3 years when I was 17 to 20. Been on a CB500 for the past few years but knew it just wasnt my 'dream' bike. Been wanting a DRZ400 for a long time now and I am please to say yesterday I became an owner. £2300, 12 months MOT, 13500 miles and a 2008 SM K7 model. I am so happy with it, it's everything I thought it would be, the way the power/torque is delivered compared to my CB is insane, can't believe it supposedly has way less power. Anyways I just wanted to say thanks for all the tips and advice on your channel mate, been watching for a long time. Thanks man!
I drove many big bikes before I got the chance to drive a TT600. Exactly the same feeling you described and I bought one. But.....in about a year I got tired of it for obvious reasons (Great for fun in town but not practical at all) and sold it again. Once in a while I still want one but then as a second bike.
I recently got myself a used BMW G3193r to get myself back into biking at 73. Loved being back with the sound of the little engine purring away. However, will biking ever be the same once we go electric. I doubt I will ever see it anyway but it will not be the same. I started biking in the 1960's on old British bikes and later on Japanese until about 15 years ago, my last being a BMW R100RS. My son is in the process of getting a full M/C license at the age 27. He has got the bug after me getting my bike. As you have said, why are there so few new bikers on the road. I think the cost and very drawn out route to getting a full license could be the reason. Great channel. John
Oh gosh .. saving up me .. then I've got to say goodbye to my 600 fazer & DR750 and dip my toes in the electric water .. a monster step but I've wanted an electric for years .. I just wanted to keep the gassers too. Not enough shed .... Great vid .. ta.
A great first ride video 👍. I agree that electric bikes are here to stay and people need to accept that. Mind you, I love my obnoxiously loud straight through pipes 🤪
I get where you're coming from but I totally disagree with "loud pipes save lives". The other day I had a slash cut Harley filter past me and I could only hear him as he passed. I don't think any amount of sound can overcome the sound proofing in any relatively modern car. Add in music blasting or kids screaming and you've no hope. In short, don't just ride like everyone else is blind, play like they're deaf as well.
In my experience, most walkers and cyclist can hear you coming on a zero or livewire, as long as they aren't listening to music, but then they won't hear your exhaust either ;)
Great video. I just found your channel and can't wait to look at some of your other content. The price of the this bike dose not really deter me. My dream bike is a Ducati XDiavel which is similarly priced. I like that the XDiavel is a bit of a red headed step child that no one wants to claim lol. I also like the low seating feat forward riding position. I am also taller at 6'4" so that seating position is very comfortable to me. An electric version of an XDiavel would be amazing. At this point I think the only thing that deters me for now from electric bikes is range and charge time. When they can get to 250 miles and 30 minute charge times then I can feel good about longer trips. Like you said we are not that far from it. Battery tech is evolving exponentially. Love your content and cant wait to see more. Also if you get your hands on an XDiavel I'd love to see your review on it! :)
They look like A LOT of fun.. Not the quickest thing off the mark but defs good and fast for the average rider.. Love that whine it made... 😍 Oh, those roads looked familiar to me.. Hehe
The acceleration is mental isn't it!? I love that it sounds like some sort of speeder bike from Star Wars under heavy acceleration (typed this before you mentioned pod racing). They're heading in the right direction with charge times. Bit better range and a more reasonable price, they would be worth having. Maybe they should fit a lightning rod, free and full instant recharge if you get struck hehehe
I love mine. To get the fastest 0-60 you need to put the traction control into Sport mode, and be at 100% SOC, and then you should be seeing about 3.85s on a dry road.
There's some very cool electric bikes coming out already, like the Sur Ron storm bee for example. It's an interesting time to be living that's for sure.
I very much can't wait to be able to justify an electric bike for my fleet. I think in reality, being a multi bike owner, I could get an electric bike and be able to use it quite a lot, but I couldn't currently have one if it were my only bike. Looking forward to your more in depth look at this mate! :-)
Glad you finally got to ride one of these, now I can share the video to all those who said I must be mental for loving the sr/F... The bike imo is honestly a gamechanger, yes they're expensive to buy and that's the only reason I don't have one already as I can't afford to, but I am infact saving up for one and hopefully I'll be able to afford it by the end of next year 😁
If I had the cash for an electric bike I'd probably go for the Harley but I certainly wouldn't be upset to have an SR/F in the garage. I know the Livewire is more expensive than the Base Zero but by the time you add the fast charge and big battery they're about the same.
Think you were enjoying yourself too much lol. Would definitely get one if they could boost the distance by half at least more but without bulking out the bike.
It’s a very similar concept for ev cars. Yes the initial cost is higher but maintenance and running much lower. The issue here in uk is peoples accommodation and lack of overnight charge access. Still would love one though just for riding simplicity.
Torque and lots of it 😆! That’s what makes a bike fun, and more “rideable”, in most all situations. As manufacturing cost come down, and charging stations finally adopt a “standard” 🤨, I can even see and old fart like me adding one to the “fleet” 🤪 ! (Just not at the present cost 😱.)
All electric vehicles are great in theory but how will the government recover the massive amount of revenue lost when the duty on petrol sales diminishes ? Any idea’s ?
sorry i don’t think i made it clear that the first one was electric. i’m 45 one insurance company quoted me £99,000 lol i guessed they didn’t want a electric bike on there books
No contest as far as energica is concerned. Energica has far superior specs. The latest enegica Experia adventure tourer does 420 km per charge 👀. That's 260 miles and has a 40 minute fast charge time. Zero is now a dinosaur.
You've always had such a great way with words Spicy. You just have that knack for putting your viewers on the bike with the way you describe the feel and overall characteristics of each bike you ride. Tremendous ability you've always had.😉💪👍
Guessing here... The problem with the brake pedal being in the wrong place for Spicy is probably because the seat height AFAIK is only 787mm (31") (hooray for us short-arses) and Spicy is a lanky long legged....rider Said it before (and I'll repeat it again for any motorcycle manufacturers/designers capable of reading and understanding this) - there must be billions of potential riders out there (including our Asian friends where most of the major brands are built) who can't safely ride (foot down when stationary) a KTM/Honda/Suzuki/Yamaha (or other) Adventure style bike. Billions of lost opportunities I say. Yes us short-arses can ride cruisers, sports, some street but hardly any adventure.....why?
There’s a video on RUclips of a four foot guy who climbs off and on at lights. He isn’t letting his life challenges defeat him. That said I couldn’t be arsed :)
IF.. and i mean IF there was either a commission/group set up to standardise, or all the electric vehicle manufacturers got their acts together and work 'for the betterment of vehicle futures'... GET ALL the charging stations into ONE INTELLIGENT charging system, where you plug whatever vehicle into a charging station, and both the vehicle and charger units computer work out what charge mode/voltage/ampage best to use then simple, EVERY charger would be accessible to EVERY electric vehicle. I guess, its a modern day equivalent to VHS/Betamax wars.... 🤔😒😒😒
LOL, So you want the torque and motor characteristics never seen before on an ICE, a thrilling accelaratie, great build and finish and a fuel consumption of 1/3 of an ICE for 6 grand huh? I hope you are just kidding but I'm afraid you don't know what you are talking about.
@@hermanstokbrood Well I have worked in tech most of life. I have seen prices for the most complicated equipment fall. Take your mobile phone for instance. I wager I know more about it than you do. A lot more.
It is very sci-fi. I think reviews for such bikes should be by law only be done on urban dual carriageways at night.......with a synth soundtrack......
The whole go electric thing is madness. Ban petrol vehicles to help the environment. Soon there are going to be millions of cars and bikes plugged into the mains. Good review tho Mr spicy.
Everything seems ok, except for the price...! Can have a polluting bike, better range, for the quarter of the price of a Zero... Seriously, I mean, seriously...
@@spicy110 do I need to m8 , if ridden bikes my whole life and I know what I like and what I dont , 4 hours to wait to charge a bike and as you said pushing how far away from home you are said it all . The size if it and weight is ridiculous how can this be appealing when bikes now are lighter and more agile . Just because it's new doesnt mean it good . Be realistic it's not good it's just for those who like to think new tech and brain washed to be it's all good .
No my point is just because you don't like them dosn't make them bad. I too was a but unsure then I got to start trying electrics and realised I was wrong. I am not saying you have to like it each to their own and all that.
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I'm 26, I rode a Pulse Adrenaline 125 for 3 years when I was 17 to 20.
Been on a CB500 for the past few years but knew it just wasnt my 'dream' bike.
Been wanting a DRZ400 for a long time now and I am please to say yesterday I became an owner.
£2300, 12 months MOT, 13500 miles and a 2008 SM K7 model.
I am so happy with it, it's everything I thought it would be, the way the power/torque is delivered compared to my CB is insane, can't believe it supposedly has way less power.
Anyways I just wanted to say thanks for all the tips and advice on your channel mate, been watching for a long time. Thanks man!
I drove many big bikes before I got the chance to drive a TT600. Exactly the same feeling you described and I bought one. But.....in about a year I got tired of it for obvious reasons (Great for fun in town but not practical at all) and sold it again. Once in a while I still want one but then as a second bike.
I recently got myself a used BMW G3193r to get myself back into biking at 73. Loved being back with the sound of the little engine purring away. However, will biking ever be the same once we go electric. I doubt I will ever see it anyway but it will not be the same. I started biking in the 1960's on old British bikes and later on Japanese until about 15 years ago, my last being a BMW R100RS. My son is in the process of getting a full M/C license at the age 27. He has got the bug after me getting my bike. As you have said, why are there so few new bikers on the road. I think the cost and very drawn out route to getting a full license could be the reason. Great channel. John
I'm saving up for zero s 14.4 11kw and I can't wait
do it, mine is so much fun
@@gallaghergibson8024 would it be okay to commute on 150 miles per week ?
That looks like a very fun bike for a Sunday blast and I’m the same height as you so good to know it’s comfortable as well as handling well.
Oh gosh .. saving up me .. then I've got to say goodbye to my 600 fazer & DR750 and dip my toes in the electric water .. a monster step but I've wanted an electric for years .. I just wanted to keep the gassers too. Not enough shed .... Great vid .. ta.
If you park your bike and walk away without looking back at it then it's just transport to you and you may as well have got the bus.
A great first ride video 👍. I agree that electric bikes are here to stay and people need to accept that. Mind you, I love my obnoxiously loud straight through pipes 🤪
They could do with a synthetic noise for low speed lane splitting or waking up phone zombies
I get where you're coming from but I totally disagree with "loud pipes save lives". The other day I had a slash cut Harley filter past me and I could only hear him as he passed. I don't think any amount of sound can overcome the sound proofing in any relatively modern car. Add in music blasting or kids screaming and you've no hope. In short, don't just ride like everyone else is blind, play like they're deaf as well.
In my experience, most walkers and cyclist can hear you coming on a zero or livewire, as long as they aren't listening to music, but then they won't hear your exhaust either ;)
Great video. I just found your channel and can't wait to look at some of your other content. The price of the this bike dose not really deter me. My dream bike is a Ducati XDiavel which is similarly priced. I like that the XDiavel is a bit of a red headed step child that no one wants to claim lol. I also like the low seating feat forward riding position. I am also taller at 6'4" so that seating position is very comfortable to me. An electric version of an XDiavel would be amazing. At this point I think the only thing that deters me for now from electric bikes is range and charge time. When they can get to 250 miles and 30 minute charge times then I can feel good about longer trips. Like you said we are not that far from it. Battery tech is evolving exponentially. Love your content and cant wait to see more. Also if you get your hands on an XDiavel I'd love to see your review on it! :)
Hey welcome and thanks for the comment. 🙂👍
They look like A LOT of fun.. Not the quickest thing off the mark but defs good and fast for the average rider..
Love that whine it made... 😍
Oh, those roads looked familiar to me.. Hehe
The acceleration is mental isn't it!? I love that it sounds like some sort of speeder bike from Star Wars under heavy acceleration (typed this before you mentioned pod racing).
They're heading in the right direction with charge times. Bit better range and a more reasonable price, they would be worth having.
Maybe they should fit a lightning rod, free and full instant recharge if you get struck hehehe
I love mine. To get the fastest 0-60 you need to put the traction control into Sport mode, and be at 100% SOC, and then you should be seeing about 3.85s on a dry road.
There is a custom mode you can check out to further modify settings, which will likely give you even faster speeds
That is what beast mode is/was a custom setting, in later videos I get to that and make my own.
There's some very cool electric bikes coming out already, like the Sur Ron storm bee for example. It's an interesting time to be living that's for sure.
I very much can't wait to be able to justify an electric bike for my fleet. I think in reality, being a multi bike owner, I could get an electric bike and be able to use it quite a lot, but I couldn't currently have one if it were my only bike. Looking forward to your more in depth look at this mate! :-)
Glad you finally got to ride one of these, now I can share the video to all those who said I must be mental for loving the sr/F... The bike imo is honestly a gamechanger, yes they're expensive to buy and that's the only reason I don't have one already as I can't afford to, but I am infact saving up for one and hopefully I'll be able to afford it by the end of next year 😁
@spicy110 how does it feel doing slow speed manoeuvres without a clutch? Is it relatively easy?
I'm trading in my VFR1200F DCT for a Zero DSR on friday. Can't wait
If I had the cash for an electric bike I'd probably go for the Harley but I certainly wouldn't be upset to have an SR/F in the garage. I know the Livewire is more expensive than the Base Zero but by the time you add the fast charge and big battery they're about the same.
Patiently waiting for your Sport mode reaction!
It's in beast mode, soooo I doubt sport will be much better 🤣
@@kevindarkstar yeah calling street mode beast mode is a little strange lol. I think hes just easing himself into it. getting to know the bike!
the "beast mode" is a custom one they made with it maxed. so as much as or more then sport mode. I have now made my own "Spicy" setting haha
Even though the usbs are in the tank how can you charge you phone while riding to use the phone as gps
My other concern is the traditional motorbike form factor the best one for these bikes. Would say foot forward be better?
Well said, Spicy. 👍 🏍
"This thing has got decent acceleration" ...... HUGE understatement there 😉😂🤣
I like it. That acceleration is brilliant 🙂
crotch haha
Think you were enjoying yourself too much lol.
Would definitely get one if they could boost the distance by half at least more but without bulking out the bike.
It’s a very similar concept for ev cars. Yes the initial cost is higher but maintenance and running much lower.
The issue here in uk is peoples accommodation and lack of overnight charge access.
Still would love one though just for riding simplicity.
I loved English electric’s army inspired zero scrambler that they made afew years ago.
yes overnight charging for many would be a real problem.
I believe you put it in eco mode to govern your speed to 70mph !!!
Would this bike be suitable for someone 5'6?
It would be great if you do any updates about riding with a pillion. I love to know if having a passenger reduces the range of the SR/F or SR/S.
The 2 up video has been on may patreon for days, It will be on youtube in a couple of days 🙂
@@spicy110 Great, look forward to it!
I would totally own one to replace my DRZ as the daily... Shame they stopped selling in Australia
How does it handle hills?
In the sense of power? Eats them but that will eat the batt just as fast.
Acceleration looks mad. What kind of cc bike accelerates like that?
Torque and lots of it 😆! That’s what makes a bike fun, and more “rideable”, in most all situations. As manufacturing cost come down, and charging stations finally adopt a “standard” 🤨, I can even see and old fart like me adding one to the “fleet” 🤪 ! (Just not at the present cost 😱.)
Can you get an exhaust for that?
🤨
All electric vehicles are great in theory but how will the government recover the massive amount of revenue lost when the duty on petrol sales diminishes ? Any idea’s ?
Higher tax on electric bills
?road tax
Or just basic MMT spending. We could always cut the billions spent in foreign aide to fix our infrastructure
That's insane spicy. Will it wheelie?
Probably I wouldn't attempt it or recommend anyone doing wheelies
Only with the gas can travel. I do with my bike 400km with one tank and i refill in 1 min
what are honda / yam and suzuki playing at. get on it with it guys.. swappable batteries and price drop.
Done a video on the swappable batts it is not that simple sadly.
Looks a wee bit better than the Keeway EZ-mini I had for a day while my bike was being serviced.
For context i had a 125 equivalent ktm and it cost me £1700 to insure
My 450exc ktm cost me £270
The torque of a electric bike is awesome though.
£1700??? Wow how old are you? My 125cc is £140 a year I am 42 tho.
sorry i don’t think i made it clear that the first one was electric.
i’m 45
one insurance company quoted me £99,000 lol
i guessed they didn’t want a electric bike on there books
i keep my bandit 1200 thanks sounds like a bike not a washing machine
LOL, a bandit? Yeah sure 🤣🤣🤣
No contest as far as energica is concerned. Energica has far superior specs. The latest enegica Experia adventure tourer does 420 km per charge 👀. That's 260 miles and has a 40 minute fast charge time. Zero is now a dinosaur.
twenty grand???
yup
they have bikes from 9k...
@@richzacedy3030 only a 125 11kw bike
You've always had such a great way with words Spicy. You just have that knack for putting your viewers on the bike with the way you describe the feel and overall characteristics of each bike you ride. Tremendous ability you've always had.😉💪👍
🙂
Guessing here... The problem with the brake pedal being in the wrong place for Spicy is probably because the seat height AFAIK is only 787mm (31") (hooray for us short-arses) and Spicy is a lanky long legged....rider
Said it before (and I'll repeat it again for any motorcycle manufacturers/designers capable of reading and understanding this) - there must be billions of potential riders out there (including our Asian friends where most of the major brands are built) who can't safely ride (foot down when stationary) a KTM/Honda/Suzuki/Yamaha (or other) Adventure style bike. Billions of lost opportunities I say.
Yes us short-arses can ride cruisers, sports, some street but hardly any adventure.....why?
There’s a video on RUclips of a four foot guy who climbs off and on at lights. He isn’t letting his life challenges defeat him.
That said I couldn’t be arsed :)
IF.. and i mean IF there was either a commission/group set up to standardise, or all the electric vehicle manufacturers got their acts together and work 'for the betterment of vehicle futures'... GET ALL the charging stations into ONE INTELLIGENT charging system, where you plug whatever vehicle into a charging station, and both the vehicle and charger units computer work out what charge mode/voltage/ampage best to use then simple, EVERY charger would be accessible to EVERY electric vehicle. I guess, its a modern day equivalent to VHS/Betamax wars.... 🤔😒😒😒
Interesting. When you can get something like this for £6k - ish the market for these markets will be established. Until then no.
LOL, So you want the torque and motor characteristics never seen before on an ICE, a thrilling accelaratie, great build and finish and a fuel consumption of 1/3 of an ICE for 6 grand huh? I hope you are just kidding but I'm afraid you don't know what you are talking about.
@@hermanstokbrood Well I have worked in tech most of life. I have seen prices for the most complicated equipment fall. Take your mobile phone for instance. I wager I know more about it than you do. A lot more.
@@clangerbasher no, you are just arrogant thinking you make sense. Not at all.
It is very sci-fi. I think reviews for such bikes should be by law only be done on urban dual carriageways at night.......with a synth soundtrack......
... your xj6 weighs as much as my 125 husqvarna... :(
oh i messed a bit up didn't I. I meant to say 220kgs!!
For 20k i could have built a custom made motorhome
The whole go electric thing is madness. Ban petrol vehicles to help the environment. Soon there are going to be millions of cars and bikes plugged into the mains. Good review tho Mr spicy.
Everything seems ok, except for the price...!
Can have a polluting bike, better range, for the quarter of the price of a Zero... Seriously, I mean, seriously...
Sounds boring , trying to polish a turd there m8
Ridden one?
@@spicy110 do I need to m8 , if ridden bikes my whole life and I know what I like and what I dont , 4 hours to wait to charge a bike and as you said pushing how far away from home you are said it all . The size if it and weight is ridiculous how can this be appealing when bikes now are lighter and more agile . Just because it's new doesnt mean it good . Be realistic it's not good it's just for those who like to think new tech and brain washed to be it's all good .
No my point is just because you don't like them dosn't make them bad. I too was a but unsure then I got to start trying electrics and realised I was wrong. I am not saying you have to like it each to their own and all that.
@@spicy110 They will be ashamed one day when they get a chance to drive one ;)
Jelousy all over m8
KASESPATZLE!!!!!!!!