2020 Zero SR/F Review | A Personal Teleportation Device!! | Tall Rider First Ride Review
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I got to finally review a Zero Motorcycle SR/F, and what a machine it is. I'm not sure this can even be called a bike and honestly it's more a personal whiplash device such is the violence it accelerates with. That's not a mark against this bike either by any means, more a gold star award that shows just how far Zero have pushed the electric bike envelope! I hope you enjoy the review!
I was not paid to make this nor given any other incentives, all of the opinions expressed in this video are my own.
This bike would be an excellent buy as it's currently for sale with less than 2000km for 19,950 euro as an ex demo model! Contact Franklin, all links below, if you're interested.
Franklin website: franklinmotorc...
Franklin Phone Number: 01 538 5005
I'm delighted to be able to review this and a huge thanks to @Franklin_Motorcycles(follow them on Instagram, tell them I sent you) for giving me the opportunity to do so. More to come and hopefully even more after that :)
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I really enjoyed this one! Mental bike! Electric bikes don't make me full of sadness anymore, they can definitely be a fun, fast bike as this one and the DS shows.....just that range and entry cost as always! I hope you enjoy the video, if you do please leave a like, share and subscribe :)
The GorillaBiker Brilliant mate. Smashing review. Very informative. I'm startin to love electric bikes for around town. So quick, and great torque being in traffic. So damn expensive though. Good grief. For an electric bike you'd assume it would be under $10, rather than above for financial purposes. So many people are bloody wankers and don't pay attention enough to bikers. And many others have been hurt or killed due to drivers carelessness or bikers not being vigilant enough. God bless you lad. Cheers. Ride safely. ✝👍🏻🇮🇪
I feel more tolerant/ embracing of new electric bikes than I do about electric cars. I dont know why that is; it doesnt seem logical. But hey.... I'm just being honest
Did you feel comfortable size wise? I’m 6ft 5 and these bikes are located more than 200 miles from where I live. I would probably end up doing an online click & delivery.
I think it is a great feature that Zero blurs the speedometer under massive acceleration.
Not even an optional extra! Very handy and helps the rider focus on the road :P
I just got a Zero SR, not as much power as the F but plenty enough for me!
Yeah I really don't think you need all the power it's a nice to have but honestly if I had the cash I'd get the DS first. Also rode one and loved how I fit on it, congrats on the SR!!
a good review, and very easy for this Yank to listen to...the Irish accent is almost musical - am lusting after a Zero, as my riding style has changed, at 72. I have done my share of 1,000 mile rides and perfectly happy to just ride for a couple of hours, now
Thanks! :) Haha and I probably have one of the least nice accents from over here! Honestly I'm seeing the appeal of one more and more these days as major servicing comes due for my daily bike. I have to book an entire weekend to do it! And they're great comfortable, balanced bikes. Perfect for short fun spins :) Thanks for watching!
I think it's much nicer looking than the DS for one, I'd love a matte black one >:)
What I love about your reviews and the honesty by the way haha, you can genuinely hear the excitement in your voice/laughs in sports mode!
I'm actually liking the acceleration noise... it's strangely satisfying.
4 & a half hours is actually quite good man, that shocked me!
Man you just came up with a new series/achievement.
1st tour of Ireland on an electric bike! Could be in for some gas videos of running out of battery etc. Reckon Franklin will lend it to you for a week or two?
Great point about the massive jump in technology. I'd say Zero will continue to shock once technology improves which is every day!
Great review again man!
Look up the DS Black Forest edition, it might change your mind :) Haha of course :P Could be easily done :)
Thanks man! :) I'm just a bike lover.....in a non weird way.
Honestly it is cool, and addictive, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the bark of an engine. The Magna intro is just better :P
Very good, bikes are the perfect medium for the whole electric thing, they're small and light and don't require much to go. I'm mad to see an actual budget electric bike to compete with 250cc bikes.
I actually did think of that myself and was going to ask them just havent worked up the cojones :D But that'd be class.
Thanks Luke I appreciate it :D
This is a great review. I drive motorcycles for 40 years. Started on a Suzuki 380 2-stroke, Honda CB400N, Honda CB750 (single camshaft), CB750 (double camshaft). In 2014 I drove a Yamaha VMax when I did a test ride on a Zero SR. I was flabbergasted and turned my Yamaha Vmax (great machine) in on the Zero SR. After five lovely years with my Zero SR without any trouble, I swapped to a Zero SR/F. I love electric motorcycling.
Thanks! :) The Vmax is a bike I'd still love to own at some point! Electric bikes are very very impressive. Out of interest did you ever consider keeping the Vmax and the SR or was your mind made up? Best of luck with your SR/F :)
@@TheGorillaBiker I love my wife, but we agreed I only have one bike at the time. Otherwise we would live in a Biker Museum :-) Which bike I own, she don't care ;-D
Similar with my guitars, I have five guitars so now I have to swap :-D
Robert Smith Dump the Wife get more bikes
Solid review! Excited to see how electric bikes integrate over the next few years.
Gracias. Yeah it'll definitely be interesting to see how they improve too!
I had Kawasaki 2 stroke triples and some 4 strokes. If I was buying today I don't think I'd touch a combustion bike , to much service expenses although there are some fantastic bike out there.
Young again, a zero s , a bit more to spend , a lightning strike carbon.
I drive an electric car nowadays, it costs me .026c a km or it might be, .0026c , whatever cheap.
There really are and it depends on the person. Personally a large part of owning vehicles is working on them for me. Its a large part of my hobby :)
But I agree. Electric bikes and cars are incredibly cheap to run once you get over the initial purchase price. Thanks for watching!
Very nice review. I just ordered SR/F Premium today and after watching this review I am confident I have made the right choice (ditching my current ZX10R). I hate taking my bikes for service, changing oil/filter and lubricating the chain.
Now it will be Zero emission, Zero maintenance and 100% fun...
Thanks :) Oh nice congrats! I don't think I could give up my combustion bikes completely any time soon but if I could afford it I'd love an SR/F in the shed too :) Haha well you'll be happy out so I know someone who owns an SR/S as his personal bike and loves it due to the ease of upkeep :)
Brilliant..laughter after switch to "sport mode" was epic
Haha thanks. It's some craic!
That is the best looking electric bike I've seen so far. Love that LCD screen!!!! The trees are changing colors, leaves already on the ground...😭. Gorilla's don't have great thumb dexterity. 👍 You seem to have LCD screen malfunctions often...sounds like fun though!!!! It is a beautiful bike!!! 👌 Bring back the V4 intro/outro!
The reason to buy this simple they use normal sockets to charge take it to the seaside go to the pub charge while enjoying yourself come back three hours later and you be back home by night with a blast of a day
Well that's entirely dependent on what type of riding you do. Personally I like to ride all day and much longer distance than is feasible for this to cover. But I agree if youre into shorter spins and longer stops this is a great option.
Great review. If money was no object I would happily have one of these.Be interesting to see if prices come down if and when the big four Japanese manufacturers come out with one.Liked and thanks as always TGB...🏴
I'm the same I'd love one in my non existant shed! Yeah I'd imagine they'll surely be getting somthing out soon or else they'll be further behind in a few years. That's unless they have somthing else coming! Thanks Ian :)
Great review mate. Thank God we didn't have a tiny bloke do this review
Thanks man! Haha why so, they'd have fit a lot better :D I still haven't gotten over the "I really want to buy one" feeling for this bike yet either.
Beautiful Ireland. I liked the review - not that any self-respecting Irishman cares for such a thing - and the bike’s got as you indicated some idiosyncrasies. Inherently you don’t notice the weight, which is something other reviewers have commented on, but frankly it’s all about where the mass is centred, as you know. I had a big BMW K100 Roadster, and it had that flat four canted over to be horizontal and with a longitudinal crankshaft, it felt fine despite being 240kg, and even more with extras on. No reverse gear though. Speaking of ‘extras’ one of those you could have mentioned, is the great ability to always be ready to shoot off, because there is no clutch or gears. In other words, if you see a gap to overtake, it’s good to go, and no more of those moments where you get to lights, having dropped down 4 gears, then just as you declutch and find neutral, the lights change to green. This type of motorcycle does not leave you hanging at those times. It’s hard to criticise Zero, they really have pitched in and created a very professional standard of bike, incorporating the new electric technology.
Rain mode vital as you say, although I don’t suffer as much as others do, because I always buy ‘soft’ motorcycles with relatively gentle power characteristics (Presently on a Divvie 600 I had to re-jet because Yamaha ‘broke’ it trying to meet emissions standards in 2000, without fuel injection!). The thing is, until electric bikes came along, there was nothing on the market that took my interest - except BMW’s lovely super-flat suspension form they seem to have discontinued perhaps (you know, the braking thing where the bike tips forward, apparently that front wishbone suspension circumvented that).
On the range, it is and it isn’t an issue of course - some guy said he had an ICE Harley that had less range than electric motorcycles do. Yes, it didn’t take 3 hours to refuel, but it’s a fair point. In the last ten years according to ‘fully charged’ channel on the toob, energy density in batteries has doubled. That’s volume-wise, so although the batteries are a bit heavier, you can physically fit a battery in the Nissan LEAF car, that has double the capacity to when it was originally released in 2009 or woteva. If they even got us to the point where this bike could hold a 20kWh battery, I feel that with the right regen (more in a moment) that would be us about there?
Regen: at the moment, all electric motorcycles are the same as conventional ICE bikes when it comes to the front brake, ie it is all wasted energy. One reviewer rode gently, and noted he had 92 miles of range at the end of a short trip, when he started with only 90 miles. I surmised from this, he basically did ‘one pedal riding’ as it were, and used the engine regen braking at the rear wheel, the entire time, thus wasting no energy as heat at the front discs. Once they fit an electric machine (read hub motor) at the front end, to really generate electricity from braking even when ridden hard, this would fix the issue of range being gobbled up, instantly the rider pushes it even for a short spell.
Patently, the future is electric, no? I tried to watch a few vids on ICE vehicles, and lost interest. The number of valves, the turbo AND supercharger (when you could fit an electric motor on the end of a crankshaft to augment power low down it would be so much better), and the special transmission stuff. Then on cars, there’s all that stuff about differentials...e-differentials are obviously what those AWD things are crying out for, they don’t chew through diffs or fatigue fracture driveshafts just because the outer ‘roundabout tyre’ gets worn 2mm more in a year say! On bikes, we surely can drop to a single disk at the front a lot of the time, because a hub motor regen-braking up there would do most of that effort.
You obviously enjoyed the plus points of the bike, and it makes me want to try these out. I am hopeful I can retire soon, and an electric bike would catch my interest. You will know the Energica Eva, and the Esse Esse 9 etc? I really don’t think the infrastructure is great for EV charging at the moment though, having taken my family to Scotland and back, it’s dire, and in the three years since that trip, I think Tesla have erected more chargers than the UK govt for example, have facilitated over here. Not impressed, the ‘B’ word has it seems absorbed all the energy they had, it’s pathetic. Now of course, we have the ‘C’ word, and that too seems to be taxing for the overlords. Fortunately, electric vehicle producers, are run by a different breed of people. Good luck G, I enjoyed this vid very much, a good exploration of the machine, and you didn’t make viewers constantly have that same view out of the front of the helmet as some others do, giving us a walk-around etc. I once saw one bike review, where after 15 minutes, the entire review, I had to go and look up the bike online because I still pretty much had NO IDEA WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE ! Take care everyone.
Great review big man. I’d love one tbh. I’m a bit of a greeny. Plus I love torque.
Thanks Chewie :) I think you'd love the newer SR/S, grumpybikewizard has one and loves it! They're just really pricey!
PS....I see what you're doing and know that I love you for it man :)
The GorillaBiker I’ve got plenty of back catalogue to catch up on bro. 💜
YOU are a weapon mate! 😅
I'm a couple inches shorter than you but weigh nearly half what you do 🙈
Great review by the way!
Haha I dunno about that :D
Ah yeah I'd always been more the type of human that if I breath high quality air I'll put on weight :P
Thanks :) Glad you liked it!
I ride about 30-50 miles per day/ city traffic mostly. I need an electric for my commute. But I think I want the DS.
I rode the DS as well, honestly of the two I'd probably take the DS just because it's more out and out fun mainly because it's that bit slower. I think for that mileage an electric bike would work out far far cheaper over 5+ years too. Thanks for watching
They should make the battery removable so it can be charged at home/office!
That would be very cool. The battery packs are insanely heavy though so I dunno how feasible it'd be! Charging is definitely the main thing to be sorted out, that said they can be charged from any standard mains plug so at work if you could sneak it beside you you'd be grand
That battery accounts for more than 70% of the weight of the whole bike, so good luck carrying that around.
Batteries are gaining energy density every year, so range will be less of an issue for those who say they need to ride 800km without getting off. Besides, most street ICE bike ranges are just as short, 200km at best.
EMCs like this one would benefit from fast-charging, but you didn't mention the auxiliary battery pack for more range on this particular bike.
Good review nonetheless. Looking forward to a test-ride over here in the Midwest, after the snow is gone.
Yup as I said insanely heavy :D
I disagree on the range thing, to me ICE bikes are essentially unlimited range due to the speed of fueling. Once EMCs get to 10 mins or less for 80% charge I'll consider them in the same bracket and make the switch. It's charge time that's currently still the killer and even aside from that the lack of charging infrastructure over here.
I thought I mentioned you could get them but didn't go into detail as it wasn't on the bike I was testing.
Thanks! You'll enjoy it I would think, you'd have to be dead not to. They're genuinely incredible machines and I really can't wait until battery technology is nailed down and comparable to ICE in "re-fueling" time. Thanks for watching.
That was a good video Big gorilla!!! I'm contemplating a Zero SRS or a Energica eve, the eve has a bit more 2 offer, with 200 mile distance, more torque & horsepower as well, both are same in price, I do like the new flares & bags on the new Zero!!! It's still Up 4 debate bud, I subbed, look forward to more of your content soon.
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Thanks :) A friend of mine who also has a channel @grumpybikewizard owns a Zero SR/S and absolutely loves it! I'd love to have a go on an energica but there are no dealers here that I know of sadly! Thanks :) Have a good one 😁😁
Like to see you do a rider/review of the Energica Ribelle. Lamb Chop Rides did a ride on it, and was impressed. It had more grunt he thought, than the KTM SUPER DUKE 1290. That is serious torque.
I'd absolutely love to ride one, sadly I don't think there are any dealers in Ireland that sell them and even if they did it's hard to get them to let you take the bikes out :D I saw it, brilliant looking bike. The torque off electric bikes is mad, I'd hope to have one eventually as a commuter and around town bike, then have something else for the longer distance stuff :)
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Oh well, we live in hope. The Ribelle is a fine looking machine. You can see that premium "Italian manufacturing DNA" in it. It strongly resembles a Ducati Street fighter, particularly in the Red colour.
Ah sure look if there's two of us hoping it might happen one day :D Agreed, they're a properly good looking bike, and I like how they're going with they're design ideas, it'll be interesting to see does Ducati ever get a bit annoyed about it :P
3:31 to 3:41. I agree as I don't have the typical 6 foot 4 inch man's hands size. I don't know whatZero was thinking with that pointless black plastic 1inch or bigger thick wide piece IN THE WAY of reaching the hazard button and starting/kill switch. Makes no sense to me.
It's not even typical size hands thought, over sized hands would have an issue too. Also not just Zero I've actually seen it on a few bikes recently where the hazard switch, the button you want to hit quickly in an emergency so as not to get rear ended, is really poorly placed. I'd like to meet the tester and they're slinky hands as it also makes no sense to me.
awesome review man! that bike is pretty sick.
Thank you :) It's class man I'd definitely have one in my collection :)
Good review, well done. Does that model not have "Beast Mode"?
Thanks! Not that I saw nor heard about. Maybe it's coming but sport mode is mental enough honestly. The thing is genuinely a rocketship. Ever since I handed it back I've been wanting a go on another one.
I've been riding Zero for 5 years now. I commute every day. How long does it take to charge. About 30 seconds, I plug it in when I get home, I unplug it the next morning. As a commuting bike they are almost perfect, belt drive, minimal maintenance. I get 15k out of the tires and 30k out of the brake pads. You score the SRF down on cost, but the long term costs are significantly different against a gas bike of similar power. £2.50 for a 200 mile commute, it adds up over time.
Oh what model? Well technically no it still takes all the time in between if you were in a situation where you needed the extra range. Hence why I went through the charge time. I'd love one as a commuting bike myself! Plus the SRF is a dream to ride. Personally on reflection I think I prefer the DS. I'm actually currently building a long term cost comparison piece, would you have any interest in supplying me with your maintenance costs over the last 5 years it'd be great to get it? I did score it down from an initial purchase price as it puts it out of range for most people, myself included. It may pay itself back over time but not many have the capability to get a loan for 20k for a vehicle that would almost always not be their only vehicle. I'm not in any way talking down on electric vehicles in general and I thought my genuine excitement about the SRF came across in the video. Like anything there are upsides and downsides and I was communicating them from my perspective.
The GorillaBiker : You’re quite right. My current is an SR. I had an S for 4 years did 30k on it. I replaced both tyres and front brake pads. Front wheel bearings went, that left me stranded. It had 2 services and 2 MOT’s. Which it didn’t fail. The service cost was just labour and brake fluid on one service. As a commuter the bikes are so easy to live with and in my experience very reliable.
Oh very nice! AN early adopter so fair play to you :) That really is very little!! And thank you very much for the info :) If I could have one as a commuter I'd love a DS, I test rode one of them too and it was so comfy and fun. I have heard of very few reliability issues with zeroes in general and the ones I have could easily be put down to user error too!! Thanks for the comments!
6’3” and just bought a 2020 SRF Premium... very comfortable and afraid of sport mode...
Ah nice congrats!! :) Haha don't be afraid it's really fun :)
I've no issue with electric bikes as a thing. The charging times and range of them are an issue for me though. Looks like a great bike regardless. Some Craic to ride I'd say.
Me neither and I'm less worried about them taking over now that I've tried a few. Yeah that's the main concern for everyone who wants one, me included, if I had the cash I'd have one as a commuter happily.
Unreal craic!
But we have to switch one day, ore all the soccer moms drive over us on the stopping lights with their ecars. ;)
A great review, all the important info is here.
I'm a big fan of EV bikes and EVs in general having just bought a Nissan electric van, but the price of this bike (and the rest of Zero's line up) is the big deal breaker for me. There just isnt enough bike there for the money. 20 grand will buy you some real 2 wheeled exotica, like a Tuono Factory or a Superduke R with a few grand left to pay for fuel and insurance for the next couple of years.
It's a step in the right direction though and I'm excited for the future of ev bikes, especially when the Japanese get involved 👍
Thank you!! :)
Me too, I' a fan of anything you can use any form of energy to make go places to be honest :) I agree, once purchase prices come down, and I believe they will over the next 5 years or so, the really very low running costs will make these incredibly attractive to a lot of people, myself included.
100% I can't wait to see what they come out with. I get Zero are doing flagships for now. But a detuned SR/F power unit in a larger frame with hard bags....I can see that selling very well as it should, theoretically, have more range once you limit the power output more. Thanks for watching!
@@TheGorillaBiker Most people use bikes on the weekend, so the ownership (fuel) cost is not a real problem, most commuter bikes are already economical to maintain. The only difference in maintenance would be no oil changes, but more prone to electronic malfunctionings.
In reality most people use motorcycles on longer commutes outside the city, and until we get batteries with at least twice the energy density we have now, there's really no place for these bikes in the market, apart from a niche of rich people who spend 15/20k for a commuter, instead of 5k for a conventional vehicle.
Here in europe, venturing in the mountains on a nice day, it's 70% big adventure bikes capable of hundreds of km on a single tank. Besides, you won't find a superchager anywhere in the appennines/alps.
I agree. I just try base these for all the time use as that's what I do and a chunk chunk of my subscribers. As for the reliability to be fair Zero haven't really suffered any major issues to date so I wouldn't count electronic malfunctions against them.
As for rest, for the moment I agree with the point to these are for wealthier folk. I certainly couldn't afford one. I have a 5 year(projected) comparison coming between this bike and my own daily, a 2007 fazer. The cost over 5 years is actually looking to be closer than you'd think.
Range is a problem. Is universally recognised as an issue with everything electric so far that's why I didn't really bring it up much as it felt like flogging a dead horse a bit. But yes I do agree. Most of the time I go out with friends id be covering at least 400km in the day. Minimum. So it just work for me either way. Charging infrastructure everywhere not in America is also an issue definitely. Plus they've just brought in mental high charging costs for fast charging in Ireland. 33c/kwh. Way too much.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@TheGorillaBiker Yeah, i was talking about faulty electronics because that's a common theme in cars, for ex. I mean, if there's no mechanics to break down, there'll sure be enough electronics. Working with e-Bikes i sure see a fair share of faulty motors, ECUs etc. At least there'll be less components to worry about.
I don't really know how they'll solve the energy density problem (common for all electric vehicles), but i sure as hell would like an electric bike, if all the problems were solved. Be it powered by some futuristic battery, capacitor or fuel cell.
these bikes are insane, i saw a vid about them a bit back. they top out at 99mph which seems a bit weird to me why not 100. i guess the lack of clutch is the same feeling as getting into a auto car, feels weird until you have drove it a bit. price is going to be the main put off for some people
They are mental, the acceleration is actually crazy way more than you'd expect it to be from the lack of noise etc. Haha probably just to be different 😂 yeah you get used to it quick but the entry price is definitely an issue. Hopefully it comes down in a few years
Great review lad!
Gracias amigo :)
I have read that to really feel the full power you need to create a custom profile and turn off traction control completly (even sport mode has a little traction control).
Sort of true. From what I can see you do get the full power on sport but there is still some form of traction control going on. Honestly with the kick from this bike that's not a bad thing.
What do the SoC and Motor indications on the screen mean? Have you ridden or will you ride the LiveWire ? I would really like to see your comparison. Thanks, good review.
So SoC is just a fancy way of saying capacity remaining, or battery level. It stands for State of Charge. I don't know why they have it that way but sure look! The motor indication in the heat of the motor. The more high speed pulls you do etc the hotter the motor will get. The only three critical readouts are SoC, battery temp and motor temp really and they're all displayed.
I would absolutely love to test ride a livewire, it's something I'm looking into at the moment but fingers crossed.
Thank you, much appreciated and I'm glad you enjoyed it. :)
Lower center of gravity..perhaps, makes for better handling.
I would imagine that definitely helps but just the suspension set up and steering, everything, is so well balanced it makes it very enjoyable to ride :)
This bike makes me wanna fly...
I'm afraid any suggestion this bike might fly I may have made is purely coincidental. It cannot fly sadly.
It is a bloody fast bike tho :)
That's insane. An electric bike that makes the same power as a Duke 790 more or less. What does it weigh?
Indeed. Mental yoke and instant power! 220kg it's in the intro :P
It’d be awesome to give one a shot! I could only imagine it being as fast as being shot out of a cannon and the child inside of me says BRING IT ON🤙🏼
I am very lucky and happy to have gotten to ride one. Honestly man not far from it. The acceleration is mental out of the thing!! It definitely brings out the inner child hooligan :P
Don’t tell my wife I’m pricing them, but I want my dream bike of a springer soft tail though..so many bikes so little money
Even the key slot is painted!
Honestly that bike is so so well put together and finished :D
It stops well because of the brake regeneration system.
Plays a part certainly. They're also just a good set of brakes both front and back. Stopping well has a lot to do with suspension geometry and balance too so I think we should give zero props for all of those things.
For commuting wouldn't you but a scooter for a quarter of the price with double the storage space & with the money you save to buy an MT10 as well? Zero should make an electric scooter.
Personally I wouldn't as my commute isn't in a city per se. It's all outer relief roads with higher speed limits and a large volume of traffic moving at said speed limits. I'd be 100% more comfortable on a motorbike. If I lived in Dublin, absolutely an electric scooter would make sense paired with an MT10 for actual fun riding! :)
Ah there's loads of electric scooter makers out there for now, I imagine they will make one in time as its a large % of the market overall they're missing at the moment.
Range is limited in both electric and petrol bikes but £2 of petrol gets you 4-8 mile and this zero for same £2 gets me 100-140 miles with unmatched accelaration boom your gone
Not sure what bike you're riding that 2 quid gets 4 miles that'd be bloody thirsty!! Yeah I get that from a running costs perspective they're good. However I think the purchase cost puts a lot of people off, definitely puts me off. I also know two people who HAD Zeros and have since sold them in Ireland as they couldn't live with the lack of charging facilities when you're out and about. Which isn't the bikes fault but I think globally, we're not there yet unfortunately.
@@TheGorillaBiker you get what i talking about (range) anyway most bikes sit in sheds or garages most the time so thats your best time to charge , the cost for this bike is high but not compered to say a indian chief 25k+ harley live wire 30k or similar as top end bikes seem to be going up in price ,anyway thank you and ride safe my friend
Is it really suitable for tall riders?
Well I'm 6'7 and I'd buy one. I was on it for just under 3 hours and wasn't uncomfortable. I suppose it also depends on your fitness level and flexibility but I had no issue anyway
Good review, but could you live with that noise
Thanks! Honestly yes, so long as I still had my Supermagna or something in the garage too!! I wouldn't have one as my only bike I don't think!
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Why did you blur the screen when accelerating??
Why do you want to know?
I know this is petty but the piss cup for a master cylinder is just terrible.
Haha I actually liked it... Until you said that.... Now I can't unsee piss cup 😂😂😂
@@TheGorillaBiker - maybe cut up a beer can, to wrap around the cylinder
We need more motorcycle videos by good natured, regular dudes like you. The 140lb, dainese wearing, hooligans are over represented in this part of youtube.
I think this is one of the nicest comments I've ever gotten thank you :) It's actually a huge part of what drove me to make review videos so I'm really glad you liked it! Hopefully I can sort a few more test rides/reviews this year.
20k Euros - and that doesn't include all the options..(can hit 25k Euros)
And 220kgs. Not great, if you are a commuter fighting your way through traffic (I know, after 35 years of doing it..) And option it up and the weight climbs even more.
Sorry, Zero, but you are just an interesting curiosity for reviewers and journalists.
And don't get me started on the limited insurance options, utterly savage depreciation, and dealer trade-in apathy regarding Zero motorcycles. Still, if you fancy pissing 10-15k Euros down the pan in just 4-5 years of ownership, I guess this is one way of doing it..
When you can buy decent mid-range petrol-engined commuters for one third of the price, there is simply no point in even thinking about buying a Zero.
It is insanely expensive, but for people who can afford those prices I don't think price really comes into it as much as for us normal folk. Plus to be fair over it's life time you'd save an insane amount on maintenance and fuel. 2-3 euro per charge is negligible for 200km of travel.
The weight you honestly don't feel - my daily bike which is a Fazer tips 200kg and I commute and filter on a daily basis and it feels heavier than the SR/F. I have no skin in this game so I'm honestly telling you the thing feels light as a feather. With high mounted top boxes etc the balance may go off a bit, that's a fair point. However for now with the bulk of the weight being in the battery, which is nice and low slung, the bike is planted.
There is no arguing that any electric bike at the moment is a bit of a gamble trade in price wise as they're most certainly for well off "early adopters" for the moment. That said everyone thought the same of Tesla when they started and they now have a large market share of a market everyone wrote them off in at the beginning. I do think we'll see Zero making strides in the next few year as the bike is a genuinely good bike, forget the electric part, it's just a nice to ride machine.
Again I think these bikes are for people who want and can afford an electric bike, rather than an ICE powered machine. There is no doubt that for me, if I had to replace my Fazer tomorrow, I'd go buy another Fazer for 3k. But for now I don't think we're the target market - that'll change going forward, it might take 10 years, but it will change. Sales have also been very strong on Zero Motorcycle in general so there's a definite market there.
Thanks for the comment and the opinion, it's good to debate on these things :)
Do you even combust bro?
I mean.... Occasionally bro. This time it was more energy conversion using magic and wizardry
She is a bit of a ducati monster 696 look a like, and thats not a bad thing
That's a great shout it does! Hadn't noticed it. I do miss the engine tho
Needs cruise control
I've honestly never missed cruise control on a bike, I agree that it should be an option at the least for those who want it.
I would bet if you dropped it then it would be very expensive to repair.
I would say it's in line with any modern naked bike to be honest, maybe cheaper as there isn't much to damage on them
Range too little & price too big :(
For now hopefully in the future they'll sort both. I think it's a step in the right direction seeing how it's so good to ride
People HATE zero, because its zero.
To put it bluntly, "hostile to owners" borderline scammy ckst hoding overpricing & hostile to repair practices the company pulls on the regular is why people HATE it.
Its a shame it gives decent upstanding manufacturers like energica a bad name by residing in the same segment.
Since making this video a long time ago they have certainly not covered themselves in glory. Their trustpilot score is pretty horrendous.
I think the price would have always put me off, I've still never spent over 10k on a vehicle, don't think I will any time soon either.
20k euros!!!! ridiculous!
It is a loooooot of money for now. But prices will come down. All of electric bikes are still pretty much early adopter stuff
Think of it this way brother. The motor is good for about 500000 miles and the battery for 300000 miles. With little maintenance and 2 cents a mile this bike will be going long after you have spent three time the money on a gas bike not to mention repairs and gas.
@@thorstambaugh1520 In theory, iv never seen any evidence of these motors doing that. They take little maintence because they cant even be maintained apart from the basics (brakes ect). The electric motor is a sealed unit and if something does go wrong it will go catastrophically wrong and will need to be sent back to the factory or replaced entirely. Very few shops will work on electric bikes, i know someone with a super soco tc and he had a tyre puncture on the rear wheel and a shop near him wouldnt replace the tyre because they didnt know what they were doing with a wheel with an electric motor inside it.
Teslas have been known to go wrong and it takes months for them to be fixed and they have service centers in alot of places zero does not.
The worst part of all is it will likely get stolen long before you ever reach that kind of milage if its even really capable of such a thing.
Its a very risky investment.
I will buy an electric motorcycle when the government forces me to do so
Yeah, like I said if I was rich as hell I'd have one. Never my only bike tho until someone pries my lovely classics from my cold, very dead hands. :) They are fun tho!
The GorillaBiker Ha ha very true we know it's coming but I'm sticking my head in the sand
Yeah, hopefully some synthetic fuel will come about to keep our lovely bikes going :D
Note to self. My next bike *Will* be electric.
You would not be disappointed getting one of these :)
Perfect for local and daily commute, which is what 90 percent of my biking is. I have an 800 ST, i'm hooked on torque ;)
Yeah I'm the same, every day. Ive done a little research and it's very nearly cheaper for me to buy one now as it'd pay itself off over 6 years when priced against my fazer.
Ohhhh that's a nice bike :) Torque is the best!
Just looked it up and Zero (all models) are on the list of approved bikes for an OLEV grant over here (UK) and that slices up to £1500 straight off the dealer price for any new bike on the list. Yea same here, it's almost worth taking out a 0% finance when I work in the fuel savings, no road tax etc and its starting to look like a no-brainer. Shame about the range or I'd PX the ST but I'd need that for trips, Isle of Man etc. These bikes are the future, mate. Thanks for the good review 👍
broke battery prepair 5000€ to repair haha
Ah they come with a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty on the battery! I'd say you'd be grand :)
Pricey, no ? Too many nice bikes out there for half that price. Think it will be a bike rich people will buy too try and pretend they're bikers. Glorified scooter? Saying that , nice looking bike.
They are very expensive. But in fairness if you take it over five years they're not bad. Maintenance on them is basically nothing like. No oil etc etc. Not just rich people but people who are happy to pay all their money up front to save over the long term. For me tho they don't go far enough and aren't versatile enough. They do look nice
@@TheGorillaBiker some good points 👍
So...One of these or...A Ducati v4 streetfighter S....Tough call. Just kidding, no it isn't.
Yeah the V4 Streetfighter aaaaaaall day long 😂😂
It really is a good bike though.
give it a rev lol
Haha it's just shoot out from under me :P
@@TheGorillaBiker you know it's just a matter of time before it happens to some pleb
Sad but definitely true. It'll probably happen in front of a crowd hopefully someone records it 😂
This or spend a few dollars more for a 220-Hp Ducati Street-Fighter V-4S that will sound like the Gates of Hell opening!! No brainer
Haha it would seem you are a man of vast wisdom :) if I had the cash I'd be going for the Duc too!
A no brainer indeed Think of it this way brother. The motor is good for about 500000 miles and the battery for 300000 miles. With little maintenance and 2 cents a mile this bike will be going long after you have spent three time the money on a gas bike not to mention repairs and gas.
That is the best looking electric bike I've seen so far. Love that LCD screen!!!! The trees are changing colors, leaves already on the ground...😭. Gorilla's don't have great thumb dexterity. 👍 You seem to have LCD screen malfunctions often...sounds like fun though!!!! It is a beautiful bike!!! 👌 Bring back the V4 intro/outro!
Yeah it's a beauty! It's so clear!! I was really impressed by the looks of it and how clear it was. I know :( Supid not endless summer.
Haha it would seem we don't :P It's terrible it went hazy there in sport mode! :/
The V4 intro/outro will return...the review videos will likely always have special intros and outros just for them :P