Warcraft III Reforged vs Re-Reforged (Gameplay Comparison) Part 1 Exodus of The Horde
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- This is a comparison of a fan-made project against the Official Blizzard Reforged release. A single individual who goes by the name of InsaneMonster has decided to finish what Blizzard could not. In my opinion he has done an amazing job with the cinematics, new level and story missions design. Have a look and you can make up your own mind on which is better ;)
Please do support him ! The below links will lead to his:
InsaneMonster's RUclips Channel
/ insanemonsterw3rr
InsaneMonster's Patrion Page
/ insanemonster
InsaneMonster's Re-Reforged Download link
www.hiveworkshop.com/members/...
Video Chapters:
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:30 Chapter 1 - Chasing Visions
00:02:12 Chapter 2 - Departures
00:04:25 Chapter 3 - Riders of the Storm
00:08:55 Chapter 4 - The Fires Down Below
00:15:13 Chapter 5 - Countdown to Extinction
00:18:50 - Outro 
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Re-reforged is basically the culmination of the community fixing what Blizzard needlessly broke
They really could make a nice cake out of it, like with Starcraft Remastered.
"We broke it so you would fix it, so we could steal it and say we fixed it." Blizzard
Sometimes passion is more important than money, time and numbers. Blizzard used to hire passionate players to their team. Now i dont even know who is working there... Until they face lawsuits.
Very Good point ....
Passion has always what drive creation. Look at how many mods skyrim has. It's all passion.
Re-reforged is what reforged should have been. Also maps are so much better.
Amazing work! I'm really glad you made this video, I was unaware of several of these changes.
Thank you, I'm glad that you liked it 🙂
also, the Tome Wraiths in Re-Reforged have different spells based on the Tomes they're protecting, each Tome Wraiths have tome-based colored models and each of them has Curse, the Blue Wraith (one protecting the real Tome of Intelligence) also has Mana Burn (which is the only Tome Wraith I can think that has additional spells aside from Curse, the other Tome Wraiths I haven't seen casting other spells in my opinion only)
The other ones have passive spells
@@InsaneMonsterW3RR oh, ok.....
This looks good, details that definitely make the game more alive, I wish War1 and 2 were remade with details like this.
When I first heard about reforged I was expecting an improvement to gameplay besides graphics, something like the mod "the scourge of lordaeron enhanced" that adds active and passive skills to units just like WoW, that will raise the game to a whole new level
There is an upcoming custom campaign called Chronicle of the second war based on WarCraft 2
@@PedroSantos-ub1sz yes I've seen the faction trailers, it's really nice addition along re-reforged mod
I'm sorry, but what you are talking about would break all balance (like adding a fifth race). If we were to brainstorm cool balance ideas that wouldn't be too outlandish, I'd suggest adding a 9th neutral hero (Akama or an Eredar), maybe adding an extra item to each race shop, or reducing the level for ultimates from 6 to 5.
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Only if they were there in the first development team. These are one of the few changes that warcraft 3's legacy deserved.
if they were in the first development team it would have turned out the same. Do you really think the product we got was just cuz the devs didn’t try hard enough?
Laziness (Blizzscam) vs passionate (modding community)
The level of passionate ppl are insane on this project, its reminds me for the sims 4, Skyrim, C&C, Dawn of War modding communities that they change the landscape of the modding itself by fixing, tweaking, adding new contents, even modified it to be better one
Outstanding work by InsaneMonster! Simply amazing... I hope we got to see all campaigns done by this guys one day! Ty so much for your video +1 like/sub
He really is insane... in a good way, of course. :)
I love having subfaction that slightly change models. I would hope you can pick your subfaction in skirmished and such too so two human factions actually look different fighting together or each other.
In Chapter 2-Departures of Re-Reforged's Exodus of the Horde, the Lumber Mill is used to train Peasants as they don't have a Town Hall in that level. Also, the High Elf Sorceress (they have blue eyes if you click on them) have Master Training, but don't have Slow and Invisibility, and only has Polymorph.........
You should help make these videos, come to my server
@@InsaneMonsterW3RR sure👍
Hello, sorry I replied so late, but you are not correct. I did check both of the versions of the level, the original one and also the re-reforged and both of them are the same. Main Building is in the area where you start and the Lumber Mill allows you to make only melee upgrades (weapon + armor). At the same time the buildings you start with are the main building and the ressurection altar.
@@GameplayRealm101 ok, it's just I really don't know or unaware of the differences (or comparison in that matter🤔)..... anyway, thanks for the reply🙂😉👍.............
Now that someone is putting Warcraft III into Starcraft 2 (Azeroth Reborn), I can't wait for Warcraft III: Re-Re-Reforged!
I really hope they get to work together on that kind projects
I really hope one day thousands of fans will unite and work our own Warcraft IV
Once blizzard goes bankrupt if it still isn't made i can almost guarantee someone will make it.
@@ExtraPorkin Then so be it lol, I have always hated Blizzard for not making Warcraft IV
@@agradhanurwedhasakti4865 Same, Not that i'm complaining since anything after Lich King death (Arthas) I don't count as canonical. Lotta the stuff after that in WoW is nonsensical. I'd love to play a campaign against Lich King though, Or Against Illidan.
@@ExtraPorkin i dont play wow (hate mmorpg) but i still take a peek on its cjnematic etc just for the lore. imo arthas and illidan are the souls of warcraft III, and cut them off on the first 2 wow expansion (burning crusade and wrath of lich king) was a big mistake and that is why the rest of the expansions are nonsense
Me too man, i dont play wow but they do produce some of the best cinematics of all time. I do hope they make wc4 just after the event of frozen throne. Maybe even branch into other story than wow.
Thanks for the excellent in-depth video!
Thank you ! 😃
Awesome! I think I'll buy w3 tomorrow just to play thru with this mod
Murloc creeps in Re-Reforged are Amphibious, like their Mur'gul cousins, meaning they can swim.....
Is it possible to make the game more vibrant, like the original WC3 is? I think, that the Reforged looks rubbery and washed out. The original game looked basically like a comic book.
I agree!
Professional level analysis ❤️
Thank you very much ! :)
Why does a tidesage introduced in WoW BFA come to such an old time back into warcrafts history where the kultirans were probably not at that level yet ? the snowsong part is actually cool if it didn't break the immersion by having the murlocs literally pass by staring without doing anything so its more like an agro mechanic not a stealth mechanic.
Hello, to asnwer your questions:
The Tide Sages
The legacy of the Tyde Sages starts 2700 years ago by the humas of Gilneas who left their homeland to travel the seas. That is way before the events of the Warcraft 3. On the top of it, you confuse the timelines because of the release order of the expensions. They cannot releas the whole world at the same time in the same time line. They would need thousand of people and a lot of years to relase all of the expensions (the complete game) at the same time .....
The Stealth Mecahnic
The Stealth mechanics in stealth games are defined by the line of sight, the cyrcles represent the line of sight of the enemy which if you enter they will detect you. So its all about sneaking around their line of sight. In some games its visible like the commandos and in some its hiiden like the splinter cell.
You can find full references and explanations to both of your questions in greater detail on the Wiki site.
@@GameplayRealm101 Thanks for the tidesages explanation, i suggest your video highlights their actual backlog of history instead of implying these were the ones from BFA.
The Stealth Mechanic response is sadly not enough, ive played RTS games with stealth mechanics and it always bothered me how they can literally see you but you're somehow not seen because of some magic short ranged Aura.
Re Reforged's implementation of the Stealth mechanic is hilariously immersion breaking because its closer than even the other RTS's that tried this tactic.
Hello,
I did mention the Tide-Sage only because InsaneMonster has made custom models for the Kul Tiras faction. I only pointed out that we did see them first time in-game in the BFA expension and that was as far as I wanted to go because going deeper into their lore would require a video on its own.
Regarding the stealth mechanic, that was his own idea which I think is cool, the original game did not have that, but let me put it this way, he is working with the tools that Blizzard has provided and he is experimenting with them in an interesting way. The tools have their limitations which Blizzard would have to work on but they obviously decided not to.
I personally like the stealth part of the mission I think its a pretty cool intro into the mission. But if you dont like it I understand your opinion and respect it.
@@GameplayRealm101 Hello there, thank you for respectfully responding to me.
I do understand your explanation on the TideSages i suppose, its not too difficult to shorten the more detailed elaboration you gave to me in your first reply into the video, but one can also say if someone is curious they can check the comments and find their answer so its fine.
Stealth Mechanic did not exist in the original game, but many many Custom Campaigns have been developed for Warcraft 3 pre Reforged era and have done far more complex things, post Reforged the abilities to do such complex things has only increased, so Re Reforged is by no means introducing cutting edge work while being limited by the World Editor, the simple aggro mechanic portrayed as a Stealth Mechanic is World Editor skills and tricks that are considered fairly standard and by no means the limit.
And when you think about it, its the way snowsong moves close to the murlocs passing right by them without being detected is the immersion breaking point, not the problem with the function itself, now InsaneMonster can create a series of shrubs and bushes and create an invisibility mechanic so snowsong can temporarily take cover in them while waiting for murlocs to pass by all the while giving the murlocs a higher detection range, it would most likely be far more believable and tricks like this have been done with Warcraft 3 back in 2010's so its nothing new or limited.
Models: InsaneMonster has not made those kul'tiran models, he is a mission developer not a modeler. those assets were made by the Chronicles team on Hive Workshop. www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/kul-tiras-forces-csw.334589/
Hello,
Those bushes and shrubs are a good idea :) It sounds good.
Regarding the custom made models, etc.; you are correct he did not make them. I have perhaps expressed my self in a wrong manner. InsaneMonster is a lead on this project, I believe he started it and of course he has a team of volunteers who help him and credit belongs to them as well of course.
You should be able to find links in the description which can give you more details about the InsaneMonster and over all his project and the team. I by no means am trying to steal or withhold credit for anyones work. Please see the links in the description they can provide everyone with more accurate information.
I will wait for re-re-reforge. Hope to like it.
Re-Re-Reforged, upcoming next by 2024
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Great work, but at this point developers could just sell people DIY game kits.
Hey have you done the human campaign?
Hello, not yet no.
pls can u give me the wallpaper of the intro?
Hello, Yes of course, you can find it here:
www.uhdpaper.com/2020/07/sylvanas-windrunner-vs-lich-king-world.html
@@GameplayRealm101 Tnx bro
So the gameplay comparison is WC3 Reforged is made by Blizzard and RE-Reforged is made by fan base 😁.
How can I get Re-Reforged?
Hello, the information is in the video description with the links.
Why is the video aspect ratio so weird?
I dont think I fully understand what do you mean ?
If you are asking about the black bars, I did that on purpose to focus on the center of the screen, on the aspects I want to be highlighted. And also to give the video a cinematic feel.
@@GameplayRealm101 oh, I see, too much cinematic for my taste. It looks like I'm watching through a keyhole. Although on a widescreen phones it should look better
@@DmytroBogdan I understand your point and thank you for your feedbak :) but it was more of a creative choice for me. :D
@@GameplayRealm101 you're welcome, also I've seen some creators zoom in into a part of the screen to emphasize particular detail. Looks smooth and its a temporary effect
how does one get re reforged
Hi, more details on that are in the video description.
ok whats re reforged exactly?
Re-Reforged is a version of the game which was promised by Blizzard but never delivered. - In short; also check this link it shows the promises. www.warcraft3refunded.com/
Should i buy warcraft 3 reforge Just to play re-reforge, or should i wait ?
If you are really really interested go for it. If not wait for a discount and also you have nothing to lose by waiting a bit longer as so far only the Orcish prolog and the human campaign have been completed. More to come, I hope 😊
Community always knows better than developer. If only Riot Games would allow community to balance League of Legends 🤔🤔🤔
That would be a disaster, most likely.
delusional...league has no salvation because the devs are extremely short sighted, they would have to hire some sort of professional that knows how to do flow charts and deal with possibilites, idk who would that be but...the way they balance nowadays is simply not good, they can only see 2 inches ahead of time
2:38 Why? It's a goofy "bridge rises from the water" animaion, because that's how it looked in the OG War3, it's supposed to "look bad". That's how most of these changes feel, just adding more sparkles just cause you can and have time. You are losing part of original's feel. This is getting dangerously close to becoming Special Editions of Star Wars.
I understand your point, but some of the original layout/design was a bit weird when you think about it: an "outpost" that looks empty; a "port" where it's just a few ships floating in the water, without an naval infrastructures.
The trick is to try and ride the fine line between "polish the environmental storytelling" and "keeping the same feeling."
idk what people are crying about reforged is amazing and this guy just made some changes that have no affect whatsoever people just hate on everything nowadays for no reason
Hello, I'll explain it to you easily:
www.warcraft3refunded.com/
no reason bruh? you gotta understand that blizzard had an extremely high level of quality content output, but for quite the time now they have been an mildly above average company/extremely mediocre overall depeding on who you ask, the hate itself tho comes from many different sources and the times have changed because of the internet and its impact on culture and bussinesses...there is a lot to consider when asking ourselves why do people hate things these days so much, however it isnt unwarranted
This is still miles away from the original... Graphics should be completely redone. The whole style of the game is a mess. It doesn't look like fantasy, it looks like an action movie, it's hideous.
I honestly think that original wc/ft looks better with the exception of a few charracters
currently reforge wins as it has the complete game
amazing