Best Cordless Chainsaw - Head-2-Head Test
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Cordless Chainsaw Comparison Test [14-16" Bar length]
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We chose to test saws with a bar and chain between 14″-16″ long. A saw of this size would be practical in the hands of most users for a variety of tasks. Likely in place of a gas-powered chainsaw in the 30-45 cc range. We also limited the voltage from 18V-62V. This gave us a sample size of twelve saws from all of the major brands and manufacturers.
Chainsaw Lineup
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DEWALT Flexvolt MAX 60V
Model: DCCS670X1
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: OEM
Weight: 12.2 Lbs
Battery Size: 9.0 Ah
Tool-Free Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Flip Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 3 Year Limited /1 Year Free Service / 90 Day Money Back
DR Power PULSE 62V
Model: 414170
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: Oregon
Weight: 9.9 Lbs.
Battery Size: 2.5 Ah
Tool-Free Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Screw Cap Oil Reservoir W/ Replaceable filter
Warranty: 2 Year Residential / 90 Day Commercial
Echo 58V
Model: CCS-58V4AH
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: Oregon
Weight: 13.7 Lbs.
Battery Size: 4.0 Ah
Manual/Tooled Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Screw Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 5 Year Consumer / 2 Year Professional
Ego Power+ 56V
Model: CS1604
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: OEM
Weight: 8.69 Lbs.
Battery Size: 5.0 Ah
Tool Free Chain Tensioner
Autimatic Oiler
Screw Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 5 Year
Greenworks PRO 60V
Model: 2014502
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: OEM
Weight: 10.0 Lbs.
Battery Size: 2.0Ah
Manual/Tooled Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Flip Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 4 Year Tool and Battery
Husqvarna 536li XP 36V
Model: 536li XP
Bar Length: 14″
Chain Manufacturer: Husqvarna
Weight: 5.29 Lbs.
Battery Size: 9.4 Ah
Manual/Tooled Chain Tensioner
Adjustable Oiler
Flip Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 3 Year Residential / 2 Year Commercial
Kobalt 40V - **** RECALLED: www.cpsc.gov/R...
Model: KCS 4040-06
Bar Length: 14″
Chain Manufacturer: OEM
Weight: 10.9 Lbs.
Battery Size: 4.0 Ah
Manual/Tooled Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Flip Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 5 Year Limited
Makita 18V X2 / 36V LXT
Model: XCU04PT1
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: Oregon
Weight: 8.3 Lbs.
Battery Size: 5.0 Ah (X2)
Tool-Free Chain Tensioner
Adjustable Oiler
Flip Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 3 Year Limited
Milwaukee M18 FUEL
Model: 2727-21HD
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: Oregon
Weight: 13.9 Lbs.
Battery Size: 12.0 Ah
Manual/Tooled Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Screw Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 5 Year Limited
Oregon 40V
Model: CS300
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: Oregon
Weight: 10.2 Lbs.
Battery Size: 6.0 Ah
Tool-Free Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Screw Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 3 Years
Ryobi 40V
Model: RY40550
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: OEM
Weight: 12.4 Lbs.
Battery Size: 4.0 Ah
Manual/Tooled Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Screw Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 5 Year Limited
Stihl 36V
Model: MSA 220C-B
Bar Length: 16″
Chain Manufacturer: Stihl
Weight: 6.4 Lbs.
Battery Size: 7.2 Ah
Tool-Free Chain Tensioner
Automatic Oiler
Manual Chain Brake
Flip Cap Oil Reservoir
Warranty: 3 Year Residential / 2 Year Commercial
Cordless Chainsaw Evaluation Criteria
Up until recently, cordless chainsaws were honestly kind of a joke. But the cordless revolution and improvements in battery technology have now given manufacturers the foundation they need to build truly capable chainsaws. In order to thoroughly evaluate our sample body of tools, we conducted a series of demanding tests. Each saw was ranked based upon a total of nine evaluation categories.
When determining our evaluation criteria it was important to select tests that applied to a wide range of users. Our compiled data needed to be as relatable to tree care professionals as it is to contractors and home/landowners. Testing each saw to its limit was also critical in order to clearly establish the line that separates the capability of a cordless saw from a traditional gas-powered model. It is also worth mentioning that all of our tests were performed on hardwood trees as they are common and widely available throughout the Northeast.
Bearing all this in mind, we settled on the following categories:
Run Time Cutting
Speed Cutting
Torture/High Demand Cutting
Tool Size and Balance
Weight
Features
Ergonomics
Decibel Output
Price
I bought an Ego saw four years ago because Home Depot said I could return it after 90 days if I didn’t like it. Still running strong after four years of pounding on it. I’m a trail, crew leader and used it to clear miles of trail plus home use. Tons of cutting trees, brush, cutting stumps in the dirt, etc. Put it under a tarp at the work location and hauled batteries out of charging. I absolutely pounded on the thing. My initial concerns about the amount of plastic was unfounded. I’m a big believer. Bought the newest one as well (the 18” with 11,000 rpm chain speed). I’ve got the full range of gas Stihl saws as well from MS180 to 660 Magnum. I reach for the electric over the gas anywhere I can get away with it. The lack of noise, 2-stroke exhaust, and pull starting is rad. Since I work in the mountains between 6000-9000+ feet elevation, my electric saws run at any elevation (my Stihls run rich and dirty above 8000’).
For small cutting, the electrics are amazing. I’ve bucked trees up to about 24” with the 14” Ego. Works fine, but it’s just not the right saw for continuous large diameter cutting.
Lastly, they run differently than gas saws. Just takes some getting used to. The electrics rely on keeping chain speed up rather that the torque of a big gas saw. They are more susceptible to twisting bind. Gotta have good cutting technique. The smaller 3/8” pico and 1/4” chains are so easy to sharpen. I hit rocks regularly with my trail work (flush cutting and working in an area full of granite). Sharpening these is a snap. Much easier than my full size 3/8” chain.
I have a Stihl Wood Boss 251 which I sprained my shoulder/bicep muscles on pulling to start, because of slightly old gas. I took apart and cleaned the carb 3 times before deciding to buy a new one and bought a spare one as well. It works great now, but it failed me when I needed it most. However in the mean time, I finished everything I had to do with my Ego 18" - I'm considering selling the Stihl, and using the money for extra battery and chain...
Any concerns with bar oil usage during operation? Mine seems to run very dry and hot? Any other EGO use tips?
@@codyhuber
I'm considering that one and also concerned about the heat/oil.
@@triggerhappydad65 I’m still overall happy with the saw. It’s not the best saw but it works. The post above about binding/twisting and throwing chains is a problem I’ve also encountered. Ego tools are ok or better but the batteries seem to be great.
@@codyhuber
Appreciate the help.
At our Christmas 2021 gatherings , my cousin (in from another state) told me how he replaced everything gas with all Ego tools, and really bragged on them all (including electric lawnmower), but when he got to taking about the chainsaw, he lit up like a Christmas tree. Talked about the damn thing forever.😂
That Christmas my wife bought me the Makita circular "E"saw, because I've owned and loved Makita saws since the 1980's.
I appreciated it, but was skeptical and figured I'd probably end up using my old beat up one.
Now?
I don't plan to ever own another plug in saw.
It's surprisingly powerful with way more torque than I would've thought, plus good run time.
It's just so damn cool and hassle free with no cord, I say, why not?
I'm between the Ego chainsaw and of course, the Makita ($).
Thanks again.
I have the Dewalt 20v max saw and it has to be one of my favorites tools I have purchased in years! I also own a new Stihl MS180 with the easy pull start feature that was not very expensive. To me this is the perfect blend for a home owner. The 20v max is awesome for cutting up a small amount of wood for a campfire, smaller trees, and by far so much safer and lighter than a gas powered chainsaw. They are fun to use too! But when big Bertha comes through (storm) and I need to cut for 1/2 a day or longer, I’m pulling out my Stihl gas powered saw. It’s a beast for a couple hundred bucks. If you have the Dewalt 20v max system, the add on of the chainsaw you will not regret.
I'm a carpenter and own the makita. I'm very happy with the performance. Instant on instant off. No fumes. Enough power for all the jobs I do which range from log houses to demolition and fine work cutting beans and slabs.
Fantastic review of these saws. I have the Greenworks 80v line and find it a great saw to use in many situations. Neighbors appreciate it much more than the gas saw as well.
Best review of cordless saws I've seen. Thank you.
Rob I have been watching your videos for years - I think somewhere around 6 yrs and commenting for the first time. Great quality videos and well thought out !
Wow thanks for following , what took soo long to comment?
Thanks for this! My old husky died. I am on the Kobalt platform and now I am ready to add their 40v chainsaw to my tools. The 24v model handles most anything I need but this will be a good $150 investment.
The pro's might like the reduced noise. Especially up in a bucket in town. No one wants to hear a 2 stroke engine revving first thing in the morning. Fantastic review!!!!!
You guys did a great job evaluating here saws. Keep up the good work👍
Rob and the tool box buzz crew, this is an emergency public announcement comment: Lowes recalled about 256,000 kobalt 40 volt chainsaws due to the switch failing during heavy ampere usage (fails to shut off when you let go of the trigger) just like the one that you tested in this video. The recall states that you should stop using those chainsaws immediately and return them to Lowes for a free replacement or refund. I just wanted to let you know that.
CBSBKKAMcomputerhelp thanks can you forward that to me at info@concordcarpenter.com
CBSBKKAMcomputerhelp we checked it’s a different saw
Wowowow that's dangerous
That recall does not apply to the saw that was tested. The recall is currently on the 12" model of the 40V saw only.
That recall does not apply to the saw that was tested. The recall is currently on the 12" model of the 40V saw only.
Already bought a saw before watching this, but you confirmed my choice was right for me.
Thanks, great review
I would love to see the 18in Ego as it has a much higher RPM which could really help it be an even better cutter and long-lasting
bought the 18" and it works great and I can use batteries I have from my other EGO tools
Also has .50" chain vs .43"
I'd bet it takes the cake!
Hi Rob, Something that would be helpful to include is what the added cost would be to get setup with a charger and 2 batteries( 2 or 4 depending on tool needs). IE something that an average user would want to have enough run time to complete a days work. I know the base tool cost is important and as you stated if you've already bought into a battery line it's best to buy the saw that uses those batteries. Though there are a fair number of people that haven't bought in and would consider buying into echos line to get some solid performance. Anyways keep up the good work and thanks for putting up interesting and informative content.
Just got a the smallest Stihl (200). It's as good or better than my Stihl 017 (MS 170) 30cc gas saw. Wondering now about the heavier Echo and battery/ charger or the Makita since I have a bunch of their batteries.
I think some of the tests should be worth more points. Battery life should be worth the most points. It's one of the most important features in my opinion which would put the EGO chainsaw a lot higher up.
picked up the makita for home use. something easy for bad storms several times a year. $299 for the bare tool, but $350 for the tool, a dual charger, and two 5AH batteries. incredible deal
I am thinking in longevity the Makita might be in the top three as well.
Best tool reviews on YT as always. Not one of your categories but I think worth pointing out. The DeWalt was pulled appart on AvE's channel and is cheaply built inside. Based on that alone I'd drop it to middle of the pack.
Second.
This is excellent! I can’t believe I watched a 26 minute video, and I felt like just 12
It was 26 minutes???
Y D thanks man guess we did our job
i really appreciate this review, i do, but comparing bare tool price is just dumb. eco system is everything be it pro, construction users, or homeowner. the makita right now comes with FOUR 5 ah batts. the batts alone sell for what the saw kit costs! the saw is free! the dewalts battery is a flex volt and works on their 20v power tools. also you didn't note what the whr was for each battery used. the batteries in these varied from as little as 2 ah to 9ha in the same voltage range. you listed the weights of the saws without the battery. thats not just pointless but its misleading. a seemingly "light" saw *cough sthil* is going to weigh as much or more than some other saws once the battery is factored in.
you also didn't compare charging time, battery costs, kerf sizes and chain types.
in the cut test you should have listed the amount of whr consumed per cut. this would have been a much fairer and quantitative.
if i divide the whr of the battery by the number of cuts, lower number being fewer watts needed per cut, of the top "3 for number of cuts" you listed the ego is 9.03 whr consumed per cut, the Milwaukee was 10.2 and your "3rd place saw' was actually the best at 5.7! if the cut test between the greenworks and ego saws had actually been equal ie both using a 5ah battery you would have gotten FIFTY cuts from the greenworks.
btw i have no dog in this fight. my battery ope is all powerworks and snapper :)
Thank you for content like this. The world is a better place because of stuff like this. Seriously, thanks again! 👍 Keep up the great work
Excellent job on this comparison!
Anyone that's in the Ryobi or Kobalt battery system, don't stress, even their saws are awesome tools.
I've been banging one of the older Ryobi 1+ 18v (navy blue, from back in the ni-cad days) chainsaw for years. The thing is stubby, with a 12" bar, and even with its old brushed motor it was always surprisingly torquey and able to cut to the full depth of its bar.
I love the thing, and I find a ton of truth in your closing remarks. My little electric chain sword, as I've always called it, would underperform every entrant in this contest, but it's still an absolute joy to use and a purchase that I've never regretted.
I have the Kobalt 40V system: Lawnmower, blower, & just recently the chain saw. So far i love all 3. No issues.
@@jayjones3254 Nice, since this comment, I've been building up a set of Kobalt's 40v line for my lawn tools as well. I haven't upgraded to their chainsaw yet, but I adore the pole saw attachment on their trimmer head.
@@VincentDangerWater Thats my next purchase & weed eater.
@@jayjones3254 how's the blower? Does it have enough power to blow wet leaves? I'm in the pacific northwest, where the leaves are pretty much soggy all through the fall. Makes raking a pain in the butt, but I've not splurged on a blower yet out of concern that it just wouldn't be able to deal with wet leaves.
@@VincentDangerWater It seems strong to me( has a boost button too) but it's my first blower. And I'm in the Mississippi Delta with a lotta dry leaves, Ha. So not really sure about the wet leaf thing, sorry.
Loved this video. I have a Greenworks battery saw but the battery on it is an 80v. It will charge from dead to full in 30 min or less. I also heave a stihl MS250 with 16" bar. The Greenworks is 18". I find myself using the Greenworks more often than the stihl. It seems to have more torqu and with the longer bar it cut larger wood quicker and easier than the stihl. As long as I'm not constantly cutting 20" logs I can go pretty much all afternoon on a single battery charge cutting 8-10" logs.
I also am in the Greenworks 80v system. Every time I use the chainsaw someone is shocked at how well it performs. You state the reason I ultimately went with the 80v system: 30 minute recharge. I have two chargers and eight batteries and can work pretty much uninterrupted.
The three best reasons for a battery saw:
Zero vibration-NO gas saw can make this claim
Quiet-can use without hearing protection
Starts every time
Really really great review, One of the best I have ever watched. Very education and helpful in my decision to buy a Stihl. Thank you.
I think I will probably go with the Makita. I dont like the look of the dewault tear down that AVE did.
Yup, I can recommend the Makita.
I've had the makita for two years, done over 100 hours of cutting. The unit is super durable. The saw is a savage beast. You will not be dissapointed.
Because of AVE's review of the dewalt I purchased the makita with the tooled chain system. DUC405Z. Doesnt replace my 20 inch Stihl gas saw for firewood but around the home for storm damage etc it's my go to tool and if required it can cut some seriously large logs.
I am a huge dewalt fan and I agree after watching AVEs video
his whole gripe with the dewalt was the flimsy auto adjust blade tensioning/tightening system compared to a true 2 studs nuts and a worm gear that chainsaws have been using for decades..idk how dewalt or makita beat out milwuakee in any of the speed tests as other reviews that compared the tool company brands always showed milwuakee ahead by a margin in both power and runtime.. anyway.. id look for something with 2 nuts for the bar otherwise you will be dealing with buying a new side panel/bar tensioner before the saw is worn out
I own the husqvarna and live it , I also have the string trimmer and getting tree pruning saw
Wow, I had a Husqvarna 440c way back in the 80's. Might have to get an electric one. Awesome review
Darren Hallam the new husky 540i blows the 536i he reviewed out of the water
A very informative and interesting video Rob , thanks, now I've much more idea what to buy next 😀 (I think)😊👍👍
Great review Rob, very informative and thorough Test! Just bought the dewalt in 20max 2 weeks ago. It made quick work of an old peach tree with a 12" trunk. Only used about one and a half 5ah batteries. Loved it. I already have a husky gas saw, this fits the bill for quick and easy.
Great review. Best I have found. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I've had the 36v Makita for 6 months now it it's amazing. Doesn't bog down like a gas
Bucket saws are mostly a top handle saw . Did I miss seeing the top handle saw ?
We did not evaluate climing/ bucket saws yet
Great job. Thanks for all the work bringing us this!
Can you do another best chainsaw video
Excellent video!!! Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Hello Rob. I´ve seen countless very negative reviews of the De Walt 12" cordless chainsaw, because of major oil leaks issues. Any comment on that? Thank you.
You should Test the Stihl MSA 300 of you Like the 220 ;) great Performance
Ur a legend bro
Please part 2!!! With ryobi 18” hp and ego 18”
Even gas saws have limitations, Stilhl 181 for small stuff, 360 for medium and 461 for large.. There isn't one saw that can do it all..
Since I have 18V makita tools, I'd stick w/ Makita 18V or 36V since I already have 8 batteries.
Well made I’m on the M18 platform and I really like my saw perform well from the bucket as well as some cutting I do around the home
Interesting. I just watch a newer video that did similar tests on many of these machines with very different results.
Lots of good information. Thanks.
What about long term reliability?
Great review! You have made my decision final on the Makita 🤙.
- I have to tell you though: Being scandinavian, the way you pronounce 'Husqvarna' bugs me every time 😅 - It sounds like you're talking about a husky called Varna.. I hear you saying "Hus'kha'warna". 🤪
- To say it right, even with an American accent, think of the V as a U, and say the whole word in one fluent motion - think of the word quartz; say the first part of that word 'quar'.. now 'quar-na'.. and finally 'hus-quar-na'. 🎉 Husqvarna 🎉
Thank you again for a great review! 😄
Kind regards.
Helpful info. I have the little 10” brushless Makita and a gas Stihl 16”. If switch to battery for 16”, I’ll probably stick with Makita X2.
I’m disappointed that you didn’t discuss which saw was best for a light, occasional user because you mentioned that at the beginning.
If you watched to the end, he recommended the Echo as the best value. It was 3rd cheapest (without battery and charger) and cut many different types of wood well. Echo is sold at Home Depot as well as other outdoor power equipment stores.
I agree with Jeremy Grui, they did say the best value is the Echo. Having just purchased one, I was happy to hear this. I will be a light user, and I already like it!
Part 2!! Husqvarna 540i xp looks pretty legit..
Me too, I have it and would like to see how you rate it.
Love your videos. Great job.
Say it ain't so!! I love my M18. How was it the only failure.
I read recently that battery operated chainsaws have more torque than gas, and as a result, chaps don't work as well protecting someone. So with that, I can understand them passing the torture test, but still baffled at m18 failing. I'm in the middle of using it right now, along with the pole sale.
Read our other review on this saw: www.toolboxbuzz.com/lawn-garden/milwaukee-chainsaw-review/
We feel Milwaukee needs to change [close in] the plastic housing.
Great video, very helpful.
Makita all the way. Great tools and great chainsaw!
Do one with gas.saws aswell! Like 560xp vs ms261 etc
Where can I find someone to answer a question about the greenworks 40v saw
The majority of the categories seem to be subjective. If we're basing these saws purely on what a chain saw should be judged on, which is ease of cutting and capability, then hands down the DeWalt and Echo crush everything else, and it's not even close.
I saw another test that found If you test decibels while cutting all the saws tested are in the 105-110 db area. Can't get rid of chain noise...
Have you yeast a best cordless reciprocating saw
where can i find specs of models used?thanks
Great review guys ! :)
I dont even need a saw. I just like your videos. Lol
I love My Makita It eats anything I put it to. I'm heavy in Makita cordless since 2005 and haven't looked back. I gave my barely used gas Stihl to my neighbor as Its never gonna be used by me again. Makita is about to drop the 40volt stuff which will interchange with the reg LXt 18 volt stuff. They even have an adaptor for the old chargers to charge 40 volt batteries. similar to what Dewalt has done batteries can run either voltage. Pretty cool none of my old stuff will be outdated until it dies. I bought the older model Makita on special for $189.00 They called it "renewed" in a box with not a scratch on it and no oil in it. LOL I call it new and closeout.
I had a pro take down a tree 16 years ago and in the bucket they took of all limbs with an electric saw , not battery but electric. Using 2 cycle chainsaws a lot myself I was shocked. I asked them why and he said the electric is quieter, lighter, more reliable and much more powerful
Was it electric or pneumatic?
@@ConcordCarpenter I don’t know since I only saw it from the ground and it was in a bucket, but he told me electric. I guess I could have miss heard him. However it was quiet. Whatever it was, it was powerful and quiet.
I do know electric motors are stronger and more efficient than gasoline but it’s the mobile power source that holds them back. For tree trimmers this wouldn’t be that much of an issue since the user doesn’t have to move the platform where the user stands from as what moves, well, at least for the operator that is in the bucket. In that case, I’m guessing pneumatic or electric would not be an issue
Is the kobalt the second gen saw?
Nobody mentioned that Dead Sexy Tee Shirt you've got on!!! Great video as always, so much great info in video and post. Best Head to Heads for professional tools we've seen!
Great, BUuuTt... who already has echo batteries? They really are not that great a value with a platform with about 6 kinds of tools compared to Mak, Mil, and DeW.
Love the video, and look forward to arguing about it with my friends
For garden and lawn stuff.. They're great though. If I needed more stuff than a hedge trimmer I would probably go echo.. But I don't, so my hedge trimmer will continue to share batteries with my construction tools.
I have the Stihl, it's alright. But the only thing I can compare it to is my 16" gas Stihl, which is also alright. But I never use the gas now that I have the electric. I bought it because I already had the Stihl electric lawn mower which is alright, and was dead last in a test on this channel.
How long until those "tool free" chain tensioners break/wear out? I've heard quite a few reports of the dewalts falling apart, the nut and screwdriver is just so robust. Nice video!
Great point!
I love my Makita 12" chainsaw. It's definitely cut way more than a 12" saw should.
Thank you for this video.
Glad it was helpful!
Do any of these saws measure up to the Kobalt 18" 80v?
Yep
Btw gas chainsaws are also cordless
No, they have a pull cord:)
Outstanding video. Since I come from a construction background and have already invested in a lot of Makita cordless tools and batteries, I'll probably go with the Makita. That said, I'd love to have the Stihl.
Same here, I have both Milwaukee and Makita tools but Makita seems to be a better saw than Milwaukee so it is Makita for me.
Ditto
I own the Mikita and love it. I also have 1Gas Husky and 2gas Stihl . Small stuff around the house Mikita every time.
@@ricklewis33 same here. I bought the Makita 12 inch four years ago since I was already heavily invested in that platform as a professional carpenter. My Stihl sits in the shed gathering dust. I get it out only to fell larger trees...........
@@The_Story_Channel u .
Makita actually has a lot of Chainsaw competence, they own the chainsaw manufacturer Dolmar and work with their German factory. Also, I think the XCU09PT is the newer model.
Dolmar makes the best saw, therefore gas makita is also the best chainsaw
I’ve been waiting for this one before buying one.
Me too. I find I'm still leaning towards ego because of their ultimately superior batteries. The cutting speeds are always hard to pay attention to on reviews cause I know they all don't have the same chain and we all know, if we've ever tried it, just how huge a difference an oregon full chisel chain makes.
Honestly it’s not really worth going electric yet
@@peter2213 I don't agree. I think it depends on the frequency and intended use as well as if they decide to come out with a lower speed saw with increased torque and full chisel chain like they should've already done. Yet even without that for a special purpose like climbing they're easier to handle and work great for limbing. If your a home user that uses them infrequently yet you already have tools like say for instance Ryobi 18 volt their 14-in brushless is for medium to smaller trees for infrequent use but I sure wouldn't try to tackle a whole Forest of medium trees with it. Medium saying 20" and less. I own a 16" gas that I haven't touched in years since owning it as it's not worth the trouble cleaning all the gas out to store it again. plus if you're thinning woods they are great because you don't have to start and stop the saw constantly. Cordless are beyond worth it for the right purpose. And to be honest if I take about two of the 18 volt 6 amp hour batteries out with a jug of oil that's enough to wear me out for the day for thinning trees out. If your cutting lumber for a wood stove even they can do that but I wouldn't count on cutting a pickup truck bed load with one battery but with a good 9 ah battery I wouldn't doubt that I could possibly. They make a lot of cuts for smaller 10" or so stuff. So unless you're an all day pro or using daily for tons of firewood then yeah they're definitely worth it I think. They're definitely worth it for the right person just not a cutting wood all day long professional most likely. which to be honest I don't know any professionals that cut wood with a chainsaw all day long anymore. They all use a hydro axe and skidder.
The reason makita did so well is probably due to the fact that they are coming from gas saws in the way of dolmar. So they do have quite a few years of experience there as well.
I think Makita is a company that when it goes in it goes all in. There was a few years that Makita fell behind but in the latest version of tools they look like they are going all out
Makita bought dolmar a few years ago apparently. Heard that from the head Makita accessory trainer in Australia
@@kizzjd9578 If 1991 was "a few years ago" then I agree :D
@@savageboner haha, "a few years ago" and "the other day" can be up to 30 years ago 😂
Makita also makes two versions of a cordless chainsaw. It'd be interesting to have them try the other version
milwaukee chainsaw, 11 inch tree that has dried for 2 years. , battery over heats after 4 cuts and stalls halfway through on each cut. not impressed!
You sure the battery over heated and not the motor? What battery was it?
I use the Milwaukee M18 platform for my battery operated tools. I use Stihl for my gas powered chainsaws. But for a battery operated chainsaw, I went with the Echo. It does everything I have needed it to do around the house and on the hunting land. I have no regrets with that purchase.
That wood is totally punked out. A shame you couldn't fine solid hardwood to cut. I have the Milwaukee M18 saw., two Stihl, two Huskys, 1 Oregon. I bought the Milwaukee because I have a number of Milwaukee M18 FUEL tools. If you buy a saw that has limited battery applications, you are throwing your money away.
the Echo, the Stihl, and the Dewalt all 3 fail big time on a hot summers day 25C or 77F, all 3 less run time and stopping many times , please take the time to test out in the sun !
Makita killimg it! You know much I paid for my brand new 14" makita chainsaw? Zero dollars. Go to home depot online, by a double battery, charger and bag kit for 250 and tou will pay zero too. What are you waiting for?!?! Milwaukee is prolly 800 dollars and blows.
Glad you mentioned the last category, matching chainsaw to battery platform I am already invested in. Since I only cut an occasional tree, I got the EGO as I can use the battery in my EGO grass trimmer.
Same. I’m locked into the Ego system and it’s been good so far. I have two of their 56v batteries so I could just buy the bare tool chainsaw.
As a professional tree worker, I'm a climber, I love the Stihl battery saws. Able to buck limbs off a 140ft spruce with it after my ground saw wouldn't start.
I'm looking at their climbing/top handle saw.
Saying that, I've talked my father into a Makita one simply because of its universal use with more construction products. Friend won one from a give away and is really pleased with it
Get echo 2511t fantastic top handle saw
I looked into the Stihl, they’re crazy expensive. They don’t bundle the tool and battery, you have to buy each component separately, including the charger.
Ive got five or six gas and three or four electric saws. The Echo 2511T is so far and away the best limbing saw. With a Sharp chain that thing slices thru anything under 6". Go thru tree limbs like a japanese chef from Benihana.
Ok only downside is the fact that you cut dry wood, Homeowners don't cut trees that have sat around for 2 years. 🤔
My dad would always bring me his husqy and stihl saws every year to clean up and get back running. I got sick of it and bought him a Greenworks 80v saw, and I've never had to clean another saw again. The saw is 4 years old now and looks like it's been through hell and back, but still runs great and he loves it.
Some people just don't want to deal with them and just neglect them untill theres a huge problem. Grandparents got a smaller combi weed eater type straight shaft deal, hard to start, runs like half choke, he still runs it like that just cause. 1 other neglected weedeater and 2 battery ones there too, for a fairly small properity (country ish house i guess not a small condo) but yeah just neglect i guess.
@ Yeah, a lot of people just neglect their equipment. My dad is one of those people...lol But I'm glad he enjoys the convenience of the battery powered saw. It's better for all of us.
I have both the EGO and the Makita, and have used the DeWalt (though only briefly). I actually generally like the EGO more than the Makita, though, if I am pruning and only cutting smaller stuff I always grab the Makita because its a lot lighter and I have a shorter bar(18" on the EGO, 14" on the Makita) on it so it cuts small branches really fast. The Makita keeps turning itself off every 10 seconds which I know is a safety feature but it doesn't stop it driving me up the wall. I also don't like the Makita chain tension mechanism though I am not exactly a major fan of the EGO's either. That said if I am going to try and cut a whole trailer load of fire wood I have to take both saws and every single battery I own!
Also, if you are already on the EGO platform, and you think you already have batteries for it, but they are 2.5 batteries, then unless you are only cutting a small number of smaller branches I assure you that you do not really already have batteries for it.
You guys always do the best reviews! Whenever I’m considering buying a new tool I always check to see if you guys have done a shootout video before. Thanks for always putting out such great content!
It's interesting that the Shihl came in first given it's list price. I would have thought that this would have tipped the balance to one of the other higher end saws. I bought a Makita a month ago over the Milwaukee primarily because of its build quality, performance and price and the fact that I can buy a huge assortment of other power tools that use the 18V platform. I'm currently invested in the Milwaukee platform but figured there are still some tools out there that Makita has the edge, track saw being one of them, so it was worth branching out into a second platform and the build quality of the Makita saw was better than that of the DeWalt.
makita ... "not a chainsaw company they are a tool company" um Makita bought Dolmar in 1991 and have been making pro gas chainsaws since. they stopped 2021 to focus on battery saws.
Excellent video. So clear and scientific. Probably the best assessment I've ever seen on RUclips. Thank you!
Not surprised on were the Milwaukee is its just to long heavy and bulky and I agree with the stihl and Husqvarna ranks impressed were dewalt landed as well and makita
Long I can understand, but heavy? Last saw I used; my dad's Husqvarna, I recall as way heavier, could be that I was 8 to 10 years old when I was using that one, but I was pleasantly surprised when I got the M18 saw how light it was!
@@kundetjenesten for what the Milwaukee is it is actually heavier then some gas saws
I already have various Milwaukee's tools and batteries so I went with them to have a chainsaw for the occasional cleaning around the my house at the mountains of Puerto Rico and I'm impressed with efficiency and reliability of having a tool sitting long period of time and when needed just work
Great video! Not in the least because I happen to have exactly the Stihl that you tested. The MSA220C.
It costed an arm and a leg but wow, she cuts man! I'm really surprised at what you can do with a saw like this.
And when you can also charge the battery with Solar Power, the TCO becomes very attractive.
I have "insert random brand here" and I think it's great. I bought it at home repo and my mom said she loves me more cause I bought the best one on the market cause it's the one I bought.
Great video , thank you very much for dong this! Very surprised about the compatibility of battery powered vs gasoline, under the conditions you tested the chainsaws. Have you considered testing them in conditions below 32 F degrees ( or using a frozen battery ). I own a winterized cottage, and the reason I purchased a chainsaw is more for winter emergencies than all the other indications. Should a tree fall across my exit route, I need to be able to get myself out rather than depend on anyone else. Just wondering how effective these saws would be after 10 mins in the cold.
I would love to see Ryobi market a twin battery 18” saw using their 18V standard battery, like Makita did. I have a crap load of their 4 AH batteries 😂😂😂
I already have Dewalt tools so I was wondering if I should continue with that. I don't have many trees to cut down so the greenworks interests me
Thanks for the EXCELLENT head to head.
Having run Husqvarna and Sthil gas saws for the last 40 years I'm kinda partial to those - However, the point about going with the battery system you are already invested in is a key point.
If anyone is interested, Husquvarna makes 2 backpack battery packs as well as the various sized snap in packs. Per their catalogue, the larger of the 2 backpacks will run the chainsaw for "firewood cutting" ( they have 2 categories, firewood cutting and felling) for about 3.5 hours on a single charge.
Sadly those backpacks don't come cheap, but they are interchangeable with anything in their battery powered line ( line trimmer, blower, hedge trimmers, pole saw and whatever else they have or likely will have)
Anyway, this vid answered a lot of questions - thanks !!
Really liking the Makita.
You guys do a fantastic job with these reviews. Thank you!
Very interesting video - amazing to see how electric motors have progressed lately. The one thing that would be great to see would be a revisit to these saws after 6 months or a year of use and to see how many are still working and how many are broken, especially the ones with all the "bells and whistles" Especially those fitted with those "plastic" tool less chain tensioners like the De-WaltAnother thing that would be of interest is how long the battery packs last and how they cope with this sort of load, I think that this might be the weak link in these saws at the moment, might be wrong but I don't think the current battery technology used will last over time, which is why I think petrol 2 strokes are going to be around for quite a while to come. Thanks for a great video!
I have no business owning a chainsaw of any sort, but thoroughly enjoyed this comparison. Well done
Me either but I want one now
Everyone have use of a chainsaw!! You can have it in the back of your car in case you run into a fallen tree over the road. It can be used on everything from shrubbery to trees in your garden. And in worst case scenario it is a perfect deterrent if you get uninvited visitors!