Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! ECHO: amzn.to/37d9KRh EGO: amzn.to/3gNXDxh Oregon: amzn.to/3n91B61 WEN: amzn.to/3oEkONk Husqvarna: amzn.to/2JWMqyk DeWalt: DeWalt: amzn.to/3AhA0oM
I did that yesterday with my windshield wiper blades, the long term test was awesome, I didn't end up going with the winners though cuz the Bosch Icons would have been nearly $50 for both so I went with the rainx ones that were the runner up, $20 difference in price for 2 blades.
@@bdkj3e I had to lookup what I got, and it ended up being the Bosch; didn't even realize they were hat expensive, but I bad some coupons and points that offset my cost.
Just found the first chainsaw showdown video. This is how you do a comparison. No BS right to the point and quickly answers all questions. I love this guy. I’m so sick of watching product comparisons and I gotta see 30 minutes of a guy unboxing his item and talking on and on. Great video!!
Purchased the Echo 8 months ago. I've run chainsaws professionally for many years. Wear and tear on my arm and shoulder when starting had me checking out cordless saws. We've always used commercial grade Sthils and Husqvarna's so I was a bit concerned about the Echo's performance. That said I'm very impressed, runs like a demon, really as good as your tests suggest. No issues after lots of brush clearing and multiple cords of firewood.
I can say this.. as far as Echo, which I have not used. There is always a Home Depot somewhere and Echo's can pay for themselves in one project. You can always resell and buy the latest for next project.
@@ProjectFarm would be great to test SDS Plus and SDS Max hammer drills and demolition hammers - some cheap brands have unbelievable Joule numbers compared to big names...
For a company like Stihl who you naturally associate with Chainsaws. I was surprised to see it so outclassed here. Especially for the price! And that is why I watch your videos! Thanks!
@@JC-uq5gi Should have bought a better Husqvarna then. There is no disputing that Husqvarna has better air filtration than Stihl and better chip clearance on large saws. I like both depending on the saw, but to say that one brand is good and the other is trash is ignorant. Stihlership $$$ policies suck royally as do both of their low level consumer saws.
@Random Stuffs that's definitely not true for the petrol powered stihl saws. Assuming you look after it a little, it always starts in a few pulls even when cold.
And I bet he'll read almost every comment, and responds to a ton of them! That's pretty darn rare for a high subscriber count RUclips channel. Dedicated 👍
I probably started my last comment with this same sentence: 'I can't say enough how helpful these videos are.' They also show that across-the-board brand loyalty is a potential pitfall; X brand might make the best ( a,b,c) tools and Y brand make the worst (a,b,c), but the Y brand of (d,e,f) tools can outperform brand X's (d,e,f) tools by a mile. This fact speaks to the need to explore various options in a scientific and unbiased format in order to pick the best tool for the job whether your eye is toward overall value, maximum performance, or just what to stay away from at all costs! Thanks so much for all you do, Project Farm! You are a hero to people who buy and use tools that they rely on for their lives and livelihoods! Bravo!
Unfortunately, each cordless tool manufacturer has its own proprietary battery/charger, which makes buying the same brand for everything a lot easier than having several incompatible batteries.
@@SumErgoMonstro Makes me wish the US would get on board with the Cordless Alliance System that Metabo is spearheading in Europe. Multiple tool brands, 1 interchangeable universal battery platform.
I enjoyed watching your video. I own 5 acres and decided to go with the WEN to cut down several (15 or so) medium size trees and cut them up into firewood. The WEN responded to every challenge I gave it. It's not commercial grade like some of the others but for $238 for the saw and two batteries, I'm quite pleased. It's a great deal for someone like me who needs to clean up property but doesn't need a full-time saw.
@@SnifferSock Yes, that Stihl is very nicely build but too expensive for a non-professional. For that price it would be nice to have a little more powerful motor, but I guess they wanted to keep the weight down.
@@SnifferSock yeah I really do like Stihl chainsaws. I now have a new Husqvarna that I purchased a couple of years ago and I say it's new because I haven't run but about maybe a gallon of gas through it. The only reason I changed to husky is because the Stihl dealer here in town has really suck service. Where I bought my first Stihl chainsaw and later weed eater at some 40 odd years ago got too old to deal with everything and sold the store and they decided on not carrying outdoor power equipment anymore. I still have that old 028 and an old 031 or 3 2 but they need gas line filter assemblies and they don't make them anymore. I even told the guy look if you'll do this to fix it and he says we don't jerry- rig. Well I was already down pretty bad in health but I'm getting a little better so I just got to get my glasses on, buy me some tubing, any kind of filter that I can attach it to and I will replace my own gas line assemblies I just hope I can still get a carburetor kit. And unfortunately there are manufacturers that will only agree to make parts for their equipment even like washers and dryers, for maybe 10 years some maybe 15 but then again other companies decide to make Parts on for several more years. So go gas and go Stihl and now that I own a Husqvarna go Husqvarna too! I don't guess I'll be switching to Electric for long time. happy cutting to you! And have a wonderful Christmas!
Man, these videos are perfect. Magnificent tests and efficiency of wording. Best reviews I’ve ever seen on RUclips. You’re awesome! Gonna buy that echo. Thanks man! Keep up the good work!
@@ProjectFarm Is there already a sandpaper video? I see the flappy wheel video but not your run of the mill sheets of sandpaper. Love your videos; best product comparison videos on youtube. Thanks for what you do.
Definitely water filters please! Best one for the home, and best for RV usage. Want to be able to take lake or river water and make it drinkable in the van. That way, when self-quaranteening in an RV, people have fresh water with minimal trips to the store to buy water. Thanks for all the videos you do. Excellent resource!!
I have had that Echo for a few years and it is great. Everyone is always amazed at how fast and quiet it is. I do landscaping for a living so it gets a workout
The Echo seems right in that random brand sweet spot where it's half the price of the leading brands but still not ridiculously cheap like the WEN so you know you're buying some engineering/materials without paying for advertising
I have the 58v AEG version which is basically the same as echo I have been running it for about 3 years now and have found that the batteries have expanded a little bit and its become hard to put into the battery slot especially in the lawn mower, apart from that its been awesome.
The one huge advantage I can see with the dewalt is the ability to use their tool line as well.... Echo, not so much. While it was a very good saw, the versatility of the dewalt (while only being slightly behind the echo) seems to be the better value
That's what I was thinking. I am actually not much of a tool user (yes, why do I watch these videos? Because you never know, and they're entertaining), but I'm aware that DeWalt has a ton of electric products and their batteries tend to be interchangeable, at least to an extent (I'm not sure what if any restrictions they might have, presumably some batteries aren't designed to be used with some of their tools). Yet I don't recall the Echo brand. Might have seen something of theirs in an older video, but I can't recall. So, the long term availability of their replacement batteries is suspect IMO.
That's why I went with DeWalt. Already have batteries, chargers, and tools from them. It may not be the best saw but it's pretty close for what I need it for cleaning up hurricane trees in the yard.
Very well done comparison. As a seasoned engineer, if I were to do a comprehensive comparison, this is exactly how I would do it. Your data speaks for itself, and the attentive viewer will draw the same conclusion before you announce it. Excellent job! When my Oregon wears out I can now see I will replace it with an Echo.
@@ProjectFarm I have the same model Ego with the 5AH battery. I just ran it through some white oak on a timer and got 6.6 minutes of run time. It's 0°C outside. This saw made me retire my gas burners unless I'm dropping a "monster" tree.
@@ProjectFarm another great review. I would highly recommend the 18 inch ego over this 14. It has an advertised 11,000 rpm. I have had both and there is just no comparison
I bought the echo, based on your recommendation / test results. Awesome chainsaw. I'm even buying an extra battery for longer stays in the bush. No oil gas bs... low noise. Awesome.
You should have try the Stihl MSA 300, you with be surprise. I have the stihl 220C and 161T I just got the MSA 300 two weeks ago I have only use it for about 4 hours but I can tell you power wise have nothing to do with 220C, it is much powerful.
I have the E-GO with the larger battery, simply amazing saw. Does everything we need. Amazing what battery powered saws can do. Excellent video. We've had the E-GO for couple years, many chains replaced, still works like new.
Thing with the stihl the speed of the charger and the battery being used it many other machines, I have a hedge trimmer and lawnmower that all run on the same battery. I use the stihl for most jobs (from felling small trees, to pruning hedges or coppicing Hazel) and it works well and it's easy to maintain. Other thing to consider is how sharp the chain is etc.
If the stihl cuts slower at higher rpm, the chain is dull or the chain speed is slower. It would be interesting to test with a different chain. But you expect better performance without exchanging it anyways.
@@berndrosgen1713 It seems that the saw is underpowered. The higher chain speed at no load is useless if it slows down under load as much as is seems to in the video.
@@ProjectFarm Thanks for the reply. I was thinking maybe you could test different glues in heat and cold. Not by brand but by type so we know whats best for what application.
I just recently got the 18" EGO that came with a 5 Amp battery, it cuts through trees like butter and is quiet. I took down 6 trees in minutes while creating trails through the forest on my property. I love the EGO lineup because I can swap batteries with the other EGO power tools.
Once you have a few ego tools, you need a few more. Swapping batteries between yard equipment feels like a game changer. Plus you can choose more powerful batteries
@@SL1CEND1CEN I recently bought the EGO snow blower and it came with two 7.5 amp batteries. Now I feel the need to get more tools to make more use of these batteries once the snow is gone. I am watching this video I don't even have any trees in my yard lol.
I use Beamtech from Amazon. I've had 3 sets now and none have had any problems. On the other hand, I paid a lot more for a set of XKGlow LEDs and they never seemed happy in the cold and the fans were very loud.
@@mattholmes8214 i have used BeamTech in all of my vehicles for the last 2 years now. They are fantastic for the price and are super bright. No issues at all.
@@ProjectFarm It would be great if you could include the Metabo WB 18 LTX BL with one of theit LiHD batteries. I have tested mine against a Bosch and a DeWalt and it was more powerful. I feel like the Metabo LiHD batteries are among the most owerful tool batteries.
@@JC-uq5gi Milwaukee makes some really powerful cordless tools. But I'd say the Metabo angle grinder comes really close to the Milwaukees. I own one with 5.5Ah LiHD battery. I have compared it to Ryoby and Bosch and it has far more power. The newest Milwaukee grinder looks suspiciously similar to the Metabo design by the way...
@@christiansprojects-cgmanuf1426 the tool is only half the battle. A lot of cordless tools are majorly lacking in the battery department. Slapping a 9AH+ battery greatly improves the tools.
The world needs more man’s men like this. no bs drama or celebrity crap. just a man testing mens stuff getting down to business and making the ladies blush at the same time.
These days what we see is all drama. Even a car restoration program gives 75% of their time just for drama, not to the details of the process. I hate today's TV programs.
I bought the Echo because of this video and I’m glad I did! The saw is amazing and the battery life is surprisingly long but for a big project I would recommend getting a extra battery. With 2 batteries the Echo is unstoppable!
I own an Echo, and I’ve always been a Stihl man. When I went looking I was at a dealer who had echo, Stihl, and Husky lines of chainsaws. He said I would be surprised at the Echo but I told him I thought they were a brand more for homeowners, not for a logger type person wanting an equal high quality performer. He then said, try it, you’ll like it. Echo has been making great strives in the world of professional lovers and for the money they’re hard to beat. Long story short, I LOVE IT!!! Thanks for your review.
@@rottiejakeluke there are a few reviews on YT. I called echo yesterday, and they confirmed it wouldn't be released in the US. No clue if it has to due with the batteries or what as it's a different pack. I asked about importing it, but they cautioned me about not being able to get parts or batteries.
I have had a lot of stihl stuff but have had to start to replace it all because they have all had reliability issues. I have one that one odd ball saw, a beat up old junker echo chainsaw. It has outlived all of my stihl equipment and has definitely won me over. Never had a service, just had to finally had to replace its factory bar, after over 20 years of abuse.
Just got done watching both videos on battery powered chainsaws. Thanks for helping information and all rigorous test you put them through. They really helps give an honest opinion on which tool can do what.
Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these videos, Todd. You’re hands down the best channel on RUclips. How about a best oil filter brand test? Thanks!
@ lol honestly. This channel is amazing and there’s absolutely no denying that. To go out of your way to bring negativity into peoples lives is a really lame thing to do, especially on such a helpful, unproblematic channel
@@mikesmith2222 imagine going online and telling someone who posted their opinion that their opinion (which is subjective) was wrong. You didn't claim PF has the most subscribers you said that you think he is the best channel.
Are we having our sunday beers a bit early today there guy? Lol.. gonna check out the hells going on with some ceramic coatings over there after sergeant farmer gets done playing with his wood..
Your testing is just the best out there. It's always nice when I'm looking to buy a new product and you have run a test on it. Really makes choosing the correct product so much easier. Thanks for all your time you put into making such through reviews.
Absolutely the Best, Honest & Unbiased Review Channel on RUclips! Thank You 🙏 Brother. I honestly check your Channel before I buy anything. Hoping you have a review. Thank You Again. We all Appreciate Everything You Do.
@@dennispope8160 I started with the EGO 16", and was just amazed at it's performance. But, when the motor developed a bearing failure, it had to go in for warranty repair. They apparently replaced the motor. After receiving it back it is starting to make the same internal noise as when it first failed. While the 16" saw was in the shop, EGO released the 18" saw, which I immediately purchased. So very glad I did. The 16" is no slouch, but the 18" does have a few features the 16" doesn't. Steel dogs, LED headlamps, and much higher RPM. My saws are used to cut decades old pacific madrone. One of the hardest woods I know of. Prior to going cordless, my main saw was a Stihl 290 which I sold after buying the 16" EGO.
Why am I no longer surprised that whenever I'm shopping for a new tool, my search results have Project Farm at the top. I"m done with my gas-powered chainsaw. Time for that electric convenience! Thank you! again and again!
Thank you for taking this test a step further! I was hoping you would have the Stihl in this comparison and suggested it. You are very complete and thorough with your projects and it is always a pleasure watching! Thank you for all you do! I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and New Year!
Just bought the EGO 16" 56v 2.5 Ah, cuts through 16" to 14" Ash effortlessly, I get about 12 cuts before a recharge, sharp metal bucking spikes and really comfortable. I love mine.
I just ordered the 1611 from Ace Hardware... same battery, $219. Looking forward to using it. Last Sunday my 19 year old Craftsman caught fire.. needed to use a fire extinguisher...no more gas saws for me. The blessing? I used a fire extinguisher for the first time...that experience might save a life someday
The Granberg file and joint is hands down the best system. Makes every tooth geometry, depth and height identical so the saw cuts fast, straight (uneven cutters will cause it not to) and smoooooooth.
I can personally speak to echo's 5 year warranty. (Parent company is TTI) At the beginning of November I warrantied a broken battery that was 2 weeks away from the 5 year warranty expiration. (home depot emails you receipts makes it very easy to keep track of receipts...). I forwarded the home depot's receipt to TTI's customer service representative and they shipped me a new 2ah battery. They took my word that the old battery was dead and they asked me to dispose of it.
I'm so glad to see you with nearly 2.5 million subscribers. I have recommended your channel to all my friends and family. Thank you for your reviews. And please don't sell out to any corporate interests. That's what makes you my go to.
I learn so much more real world knowledge from watching all your videos than I ever did from any school or college. Our family lives 100% off the grid & we all learn so much Valuable Information & Knowledge from you. It has made our transition to the off Grid life so easy. Thank you & God Bless you. You are a Real Teacher & Educator teaching Real World Education. We have the Ego Platform of Battery Powered tools Etc & couldn’t be happier. 🍻
Power tools and RUclips off the grid???? Sounds like you connected to the grid, my great uncle was off the grid he walked miles for water, built windmills and stored energy as hydrogen, before that he was without power. He was 98 broke his hip and was brought to the farm where the pump went out so he cut a hole in ice for water they put him in nursing home he quickly decided he didn’t want to live and passed at 99.
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I think where EGO wins is the ecosystem of compatible products. Nobody else can match that. I have two batteries for like 7 devices! Mower, blower, hedge trimmer, string trimmer, chainsaw, multi head system: currently just the edger!
YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB ON YOUR VIDEOS , NO BLARING HARD ROCK MUSIC TO GO THROUGH , JUST GOOD CLEAR HONEST TEST , YOU ALWAYS DO AND SHOW THE BEST WAYS TO MAKE THE TEST EQUAL AND HONEST . AND HONESTY IS ALWAYS BEST " WHERE HONESTY MATTERS !" two thumbs way up on your videos and work .
Dewalt, makita etc have a large catalog of battery powered tools available, and that's probably worth considering / going over in the reviews also. Great vid!
@@laa0fa502 I think he's bringing up the point that if you buy the Stihl or Echo...that's all you get. You'd likely have no other use for the battery or no spare batteries for that tool whereas if you bought the Milwaukee/Makita/DeWalt or even the Ego you might already have outdoor power equipment or tools that can extend the use of the kit.
Yes I only looked at the charts and did not know the size or battery of the ego.. I will say having both the 16 and 18 that the 16 is gathering dust right now.
I went with the Ego because I also have their back pack blower and string weed trimer and the batteries are all interchangeable. I also think the Ego chainsaw wins here for its Price/Performance ratio.
I bought an Ego 18” from Amazon on November 8th. I had to send it back for a replacement. Got the replacement on November 27th. Sending replacement back today for full refund. A cut which should have been 5 seconds took me 20 minutes. Ego customer support is useless if you are within 30 days of your purchase date. Your only option is to return it.
@@Intentionally_Inflammatory Yeah, I 100% guarantee the chain was backwards. My old boss did that once, damn near set the tree on fire before cutting it. Hard to believe you would make it all the way to 2 replacements before looking at your own issues. This test shows that the differences are small amounts of speed, not literally doesn't work vs does.
I bought the EGO 16" a couple of years ago, and I'm pretty happy with it. All my yard tools are EGO, so I have multiple batteries available. The 5ah battery works well for the little cutting I have to do. The 2.5ah battery only ever gets used on the weed whacker.
Have you bought any of the knockoff Ego compatible batteries? If so what was your experience. Ego batteries are near as expensive as the 16" Ego saw itself!
Again thank you for this test! As part of a "gardening" ecosystem of tools, I find the EGO very interesting because we will have multiple batteries with multiple tools, so it will be easy to swap batteries.
I've had my echo going on 4 years I'm glad to see that your video backed up what I knew I would recommend that echo to anyone that wants battery operated chainsaw
Absolutely the best ever comparison. We’ve subscribed and will be watching more of “Project Farm” videos. Thank you so much for all the time you spent creating these comparisons.
Thanks for the superb video. This is one of the few reviews/comparisons that shows real differences between products. You are so thorough and come at it from so many different angles. Other reviewers would look at things superficially, leaving me to discover true shortcomings of the products on my own. You have left no stone unturned. Have a wonderful New Year!
DeWalt is perhaps the most consistently good power tool brand in my experience. I've never been disappointed with one of their tools. Ryobi seems to do really well for the price, and the warranty is impressive. I might just have to buy some battery adapters and mix and match. :)
Agreed, I started getting a lot of DeWalt tools after my dad gave me some of his old stuff and I just started building out my collection on that battery platform. I have yet to be disappointed with any of their tools. They don't always win these comparisons but they're always toward the top.
I would love to see a video about conditioning hard water. Salt based water softener vs salt free water conditioners. I've seen/heard mixed results regarding electronic water descalers as well. Thanks for your hard work!
Very interesting review. I'm a heavy battery chainsaw user and owned the Ego, Dewalt, Echo and today I purchased the Stihl. The Ego and Dewalt are not intended for heavy use and returned them almost immediately. I used the Echo intensively for a little over a year, it's great but had some issues (chain falling off easily) and the motor stopped working - I would say it's more a prosumer model. I have not used the Stihl yet but hopefully I will have it for many years! One missing contender for round 3 is the husqvarna 540i XP!
@@SL1CEND1CEN not necessarily, with additional batteries you can last a long time. They don't smell and are much quieter, gas chainsaws will slowly disappear
I’ve never even used a chainsaw before yet here I am watching chainsaw reviews. Thanks so much for your content, very entertaining and informative. I feel like I’ll be in a better spot once I become a homeowner thanks to your videos.
With the holidays coming up, you probably figure it’s a good time to clean your carpet. Could you do a test on which carpet shampoo gives the best results?
Solid solid solid video... one could certainly dive into analysis paralysis with this sort of thing but you kept it moving and got the info on the table. Well done and thank you Sir!
There are other videos on YT where the HF Atlas battery stops on thermal overload while cutting under load. Battery will show 50% charge, but won't function until it cools down. Have no idea if their experiences are typical. Otherwise, the guys in the videos seems to like them. Dunno. I wonder if ProjectFarm experienced any thermal battery issues in his tests thus far...
Only recently found your videos, and I am quickly understanding why you have 2 mil plus subs. No filler all killer. Excellent, informative stuff my man!
A great round-up between this one and the earlier one. Thanks for including the EGO. Although the Echo is amazing, I would opt for either the DeWalt or the EGO simply because I've invested in those battery technologies already around my house. The DW already has a great battery, but with the EGO, I'd buy the bare tool and use my other 5.0 amp hour batteries with the chainsaw. Those are just some additional things to consider besides just performance; things such as battery conformity and what you already own as that will reduce the "entry price" into a new tool. Great job. I love your videos!
totally agree. The echo is better, but the versatility of the dewalt batteries means I have about a dozen 60v batteries to swap in/out as well as two large 4 battery charger. I have other yard tools that are dewalt as well as the normal shop tools. While the echo might be a bit faster, but it would be a large investment for an only slightly better tool.
I realize that markets and prices fluctuate like crazy but including a price comparison of extra batteries(maybe just msrp? Idk..) would also be very helpful. Whenever I upgrade from my little b&d lcs1240, probably going to get the Makita because it nearish the top of the last video and comes with 2 full sets of batteries.
Just bought the 16” EGO and was very impressed with its performance. I do agree that a larger battery would be beneficial. I filled about half a truck bed with firewood before the battery died. I then grabbed my dads 20V dewalt and it had nowhere near the power. After one cut we switched to a gas chainsaw to finish up. The EGO cut better and faster than the gas, but that could’ve been due to a newer chain. Thanks for your review. It made my decision so much easier.
If you're interested in battery-powered tools, you're buying into a whole line of tools and not just the chainsaw. Make sure to compare the whole lineup. (I own the Echo chainsaw and string trimmer; Dewalt hedge trimmer, blower, and drill.)
@@CodeKujo all my cordless tools are Milwaukee. I thought about getting their cordless saw but the performance didn’t really impress me(at least what I saw in various reviews) and it was more expensive. I’m just tired of messing with a gas saw. Seem like if it sits for more than a few months, it won’t start.
@@motowipeout5670 Sadly modern fuel goes bad pretty quickly and the ethanol ruins the diaphragm etc in the carb pretty quick too. Most of my professional equipment today is Echo, love it, used to run mostly stihl but prices are silly and the quality dropped.
Doesn't really matter much. Refilling a gas saw takes seconds. 2 minutes if you need to measure oil. For electric it matters because you need to time your 40-90 minute breaks.
@@JC-fj7oo a very good point indeed, but the times would have been nice to see, the Stihl ms 170 is a much better option, when I use a chainsaw it's often a lot longer than a few minutes.
@@williamrutter3619 better is going to completely depend. Obviously if you're a professional logger, you're going to want a gas chainsaw. Or if you happen to own a very large farm, or a small forrest, park ranger... Gas is going to be the right choice. For 99% of people who aren't loggers, an electric chainsaw just makes sense. No pulling no priming no maintenance no storing gas no mixing no ear protection. You don't have to carry a running saw up a ladder, and they're easier to use at odd angles for pruning. And if you watch the end of the video he says that echo should be able to cut 32 times through a fairly thick hardwood tree. If you have an extra battery that's 60 cuts. After cutting 60 logs you're going to want to take a hour off anyway. Eat some food, let the batteries recharge. And get back to work. Or use the time efficiently, use an ax to start limbing and splitting. Plus I don't know if you noticed but the cut times for the echo were actually faster than both the stihl. Gas and electric. But even the Ryobi and the ego which are about the same price as the stihl 170 / 171 did a good job too. And they're still going to be a better choice for most people.
@@JC-fj7oo one tree can be quite considerably large, and they do fall, I live on farm, not large one, a tree can take day's to sort out, 7 mins isn't running through logs isn't going to work, these petrol chainsaws start pretty easy it isn't an issue and the clutch and chain brake stops the chain from moving, a responsible owner or tenant of property needs a good chainsaw, being out of battery isn't an option.
@@williamrutter3619 Apparently you can't read, because I did say that people on farms might want a gas saw. And no a tenant should NEVER be using a chainsaw on the property, they should be calling the landlord and the landlord should be doing it or calling a service to do it. The insurance nightmare of a tenant spending hundreds on a saw and potentially causing thousands in damage or harming/killing someone/themselves to save a couple hundred on a tree service... That's retarded. And I do not use that word lightly. For a truck saw to clear a road or do some basic emergency cuts, electric works better. It's easier to store, it always starts. The gas doesn't go bad. No priming or pulling or standing in the cold trying to fuck with it. Slide the battery on, push the trigger. Put the battery on a charger once a year... Good to go. Also important to mention that the 170 and all of the electric are LIGHT duty saws. They are for homeowners and landscapers to quickly cut down and process a couple trees once in a while. Deal with limbs. Basic homeowner tasks. If you have a forest or a farm and need to cut down larger trees regularly, then you will want a bigger and more powerful saw. Expect to pay 4-500 for a pro tool. But for the 99.99% of the world that has never felled a redwood: The electric is fine. Even wranglerstar had a vid about it. He hates anything new, but he said he mostly reaches for his dewalt now. His wife and kid prefer to use the dewalt. And he has a bunch of other high quality chainsaws and manages a small forest. He got 25 cuts with his test. If you use an axe and pruners for limbing, you should be able to fell and buck a 50' tree on a single charge. And again, the vast majority of people are not qualified to cut down a tree that's more than 50' anyway. And with a spare batt they can do 2 of them. After a couple hours you can come back and do 2 more. If you need to fell more than 4 50ft trees in a day, that's NOT light duty. And you can rent a 20" chainsaw for like $50 for the day. But that's also way outside the scope of what almost all homeowners are doing with their saws. Something that is easier and faster for a shorter period of time, but still plenty to get the job done, is going to be better for most people. It you don't happen to be like most people, woohoo, you're special. Good for you.
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Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
ECHO: amzn.to/37d9KRh
EGO: amzn.to/3gNXDxh
Oregon: amzn.to/3n91B61
WEN: amzn.to/3oEkONk
Husqvarna: amzn.to/2JWMqyk
DeWalt: DeWalt: amzn.to/3AhA0oM
How I buy tools :
1-Watch Project Farm
2-buy the recommended item
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@@benkleve4199 but you are! The correct word is "you're"
I did that yesterday with my windshield wiper blades, the long term test was awesome, I didn't end up going with the winners though cuz the Bosch Icons would have been nearly $50 for both so I went with the rainx ones that were the runner up, $20 difference in price for 2 blades.
Yeah idk if I want to have like 4 or 5 different battery setups. Looks like Dewalt has the most wins under their belt so buy Dewalt cordless tools
@@bdkj3e I had to lookup what I got, and it ended up being the Bosch; didn't even realize they were hat expensive, but I bad some coupons and points that offset my cost.
Just found the first chainsaw showdown video. This is how you do a comparison. No BS right to the point and quickly answers all questions. I love this guy.
I’m so sick of watching product comparisons and I gotta see 30 minutes of a guy unboxing his item and talking on and on.
Great video!!
Thanks!
There's a ton of BS on YT, and this channel cuts through it. Great content!
Thanks!
LOL!! 😂 he sure did!
Nice pun!
That's another test for him! "Which RUclips channel is the most BS?"
I guess we didn't... saw this coming.
Purchased the Echo 8 months ago. I've run chainsaws professionally for many years. Wear and tear on my arm and shoulder when starting had me checking out cordless saws. We've always used commercial grade Sthils and Husqvarna's so I was a bit concerned about the Echo's performance. That said I'm very impressed, runs like a demon, really as good as your tests suggest. No issues after lots of brush clearing and multiple cords of firewood.
Thanks for sharing.
Have u tested cordless string trimmers ?
I can say this.. as far as Echo, which I have not used. There is always a Home Depot somewhere and Echo's can pay for themselves in one project. You can always resell and buy the latest for next project.
Echo has always made decent tools. IMO
What do you think about the safety position? Does it get uncomfortable?
This has to be the best channel on RUclips. I can't stop watching
"Which is the best tool review channel?. . . Gonna test that!"
Thanks for watching!
@@ProjectFarm would be great to test SDS Plus and SDS Max hammer drills and demolition hammers - some cheap brands have unbelievable Joule numbers compared to big names...
For a company like Stihl who you naturally associate with Chainsaws. I was surprised to see it so outclassed here. Especially for the price! And that is why I watch your videos! Thanks!
The only 1 up they might have had is reliability, but a 5 year consumer warranty match that too.
@@JC-uq5gi Should have bought a better Husqvarna then. There is no disputing that Husqvarna has better air filtration than Stihl and better chip clearance on large saws. I like both depending on the saw, but to say that one brand is good and the other is trash is ignorant. Stihlership $$$ policies suck royally as do both of their low level consumer saws.
What's interesting is that Andreas Stihl started with electric chainsaws, albeit not battery-powered ones.
@Random Stuffs that's definitely not true for the petrol powered stihl saws. Assuming you look after it a little, it always starts in a few pulls even when cold.
@@JC-uq5gi I can't tell you how many times we've met in life. Every time just as ridiculous as the last...
Nearly 2000 comments in 3 hours, this channel has gotten a lot more popular than it used to be!! (and it deserves it too!).
Valid point... & with unbiased tests you don't usually get the "chevy vrs ford" comments 👍🍳😎♨
i hope it continues to grow. this guy deserves every view he gets and more.
And I bet he'll read almost every comment, and responds to a ton of them! That's pretty darn rare for a high subscriber count RUclips channel. Dedicated 👍
Thanks so much!
PF constantly gets over a million views per video.
0:22 $159 WEN 40V brushless 5.4kg 16" (dull metal bumper spikes)
1:42 $229 EGO 56V brushless 5.1kg 14" (plastic felling spikes)
2:31 $259 Husqvarna 120i 40V 4.9kg 14" (plastic spikes)
3:19 $339 ECHO 58V brushless 6.6kg 16" (plastic spikes)
4:19 $415 Oregon CS300 40V 6.3kg self-sharpening 16" (dull metal spikes)
5:30 $815 Stihl MSA 220C 36V 5.3kg 14" (sharp metal spikes)
6:24 Noise measurements
7:44 Cutting time measurements on nine 4×4s
11:19 Cutting time on six 4×4s, w/ 2.5 lbs weight
13:14 Cutting time on 11"-wide locust tree log
15:42 Battery runtime
17:43 Battery charging time
18:21 Conclusion
I like it when you say “We’re gonna test that”! Excellent test as always, thanks!
You are welcome!
@@ProjectFarm could you please test primers/paints that etch to aluminium. I'm having real trouble
A year isn't complete without a project farm video, happy holidays to everyone!
Happy Holidays!
You too buddy...
A whole year? He puts out videos weekly
@@zeddpilsner4 I ment, to end the year well.
I probably started my last comment with this same sentence: 'I can't say enough how helpful these videos are.' They also show that across-the-board brand loyalty is a potential pitfall; X brand might make the best ( a,b,c) tools and Y brand make the worst (a,b,c), but the Y brand of (d,e,f) tools can outperform brand X's (d,e,f) tools by a mile. This fact speaks to the need to explore various options in a scientific and unbiased format in order to pick the best tool for the job whether your eye is toward overall value, maximum performance, or just what to stay away from at all costs! Thanks so much for all you do, Project Farm! You are a hero to people who buy and use tools that they rely on for their lives and livelihoods! Bravo!
You are welcome!
Unfortunately, each cordless tool manufacturer has its own proprietary battery/charger, which makes buying the same brand for everything a lot easier than having several incompatible batteries.
@@SumErgoMonstro and that is a significant factor in overall cost, as well.
@@SumErgoMonstro Makes me wish the US would get on board with the Cordless Alliance System that Metabo is spearheading in Europe. Multiple tool brands, 1 interchangeable universal battery platform.
@@Anomaly188 yeah, especially since that would be really helpful for the environment
I enjoyed watching your video. I own 5 acres and decided to go with the WEN to cut down several (15 or so) medium size trees and cut them up into firewood. The WEN responded to every challenge I gave it. It's not commercial grade like some of the others but for $238 for the saw and two batteries, I'm quite pleased. It's a great deal for someone like me who needs to clean up property but doesn't need a full-time saw.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
My favorite part of Sunday morning. Thanks for all you do, Todd. Stay safe.
David, Thank you very much and I wish you safety and happy holidays too!
Your pacing and editing for these videos is impeccable.
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm
No bullshit, no pretense, he cuts straight to what we wanna hear. See what I did there?
It's insane his consistency!
l nub
Another top notch testing video! Superb. I can't believe how much money you spent on the chainsaws. A++
Give them away to viewers!
@@nativewear23 *Give them away to viewers who have donated money to make these videos happen.
RUclipsrs with 1.5 million subscribers make plenty of money. Good for him.
Thank you very much!
I would hope he sells them barely used after he is done with the video, but maybe he keeps them around for possible future videos.
This channel is WITHOUT A DOUBT the best and most useful channel on RUclips... Thank you so much!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Todd’s out here doing God’s work for everyone. The time and effort you put into these videos isn’t unappreciated. Happy holidays!
Thank you!!!
Agreed.
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Man Stihl should be ashamed. Looks like it will be an Echo for me when the time comes. Thanks again Project Farm!
I have 3 years on my echo and it is still going strong. You will love it
Wonder if the rim can drop a tooth on stihl? Thatd bring torque up.
I sort of agree but at least with a gas Stihl they will last forever if maintained. Hard to say that paying over 2x the cost is worth it tho.
@@SnifferSock Yes, that Stihl is very nicely build but too expensive for a non-professional. For that price it would be nice to have a little more powerful motor, but I guess they wanted to keep the weight down.
@@SnifferSock yeah I really do like Stihl chainsaws. I now have a new Husqvarna that I purchased a couple of years ago and I say it's new because I haven't run but about maybe a gallon of gas through it. The only reason I changed to husky is because the Stihl dealer here in town has really suck service. Where I bought my first Stihl chainsaw and later weed eater at some 40 odd years ago got too old to deal with everything and sold the store and they decided on not carrying outdoor power equipment anymore. I still have that old 028 and an old 031 or 3 2 but they need gas line filter assemblies and they don't make them anymore. I even told the guy look if you'll do this to fix it and he says we don't jerry- rig. Well I was already down pretty bad in health but I'm getting a little better so I just got to get my glasses on, buy me some tubing, any kind of filter that I can attach it to and I will replace my own gas line assemblies I just hope I can still get a carburetor kit. And unfortunately there are manufacturers that will only agree to make parts for their equipment even like washers and dryers, for maybe 10 years some maybe 15 but then again other companies decide to make Parts on for several more years. So go gas and go Stihl and now that I own a Husqvarna go Husqvarna too! I don't guess I'll be switching to Electric for long time. happy cutting to you! And have a wonderful Christmas!
One of the best RUclips channels I've come across. Thanks for the hard work you put into these videos.
Wow, thank you!
With out a doubt.. Best
You're not alone! Project Farm averages over a million views per video.
Man, these videos are perfect. Magnificent tests and efficiency of wording. Best reviews I’ve ever seen on RUclips. You’re awesome! Gonna buy that echo. Thanks man! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Completely agree with this comment!!
💦Best home water filter? Include cheaper options like RV filters. 💦
Great suggestion!
Berkey
@@ProjectFarm Is there already a sandpaper video? I see the flappy wheel video but not your run of the mill sheets of sandpaper. Love your videos; best product comparison videos on youtube. Thanks for what you do.
Yes! This! I end up paying a fortune for my fridge filter every month and it seems like there should be a half priced option.
Definitely water filters please! Best one for the home, and best for RV usage. Want to be able to take lake or river water and make it drinkable in the van. That way, when self-quaranteening in an RV, people have fresh water with minimal trips to the store to buy water. Thanks for all the videos you do. Excellent resource!!
I have had that Echo for a few years and it is great. Everyone is always amazed at how fast and quiet it is. I do landscaping for a living so it gets a workout
Great feedback on the Echo
The Echo seems right in that random brand sweet spot where it's half the price of the leading brands but still not ridiculously cheap like the WEN so you know you're buying some engineering/materials without paying for advertising
I have the 58v AEG version which is basically the same as echo I have been running it for about 3 years now and have found that the batteries have expanded a little bit and its become hard to put into the battery slot especially in the lawn mower, apart from that its been awesome.
Do you still have it and if so is it still working well?
@IloveBaklava yes, I have all of the tools in the system and use them regularly. Have had 2 batteries give up, but other than that they are great
Project Farm: We're gonna test that.
Me: YES.
Thanks for watching.
Yeah, love it when he says that! 😁
The one huge advantage I can see with the dewalt is the ability to use their tool line as well.... Echo, not so much. While it was a very good saw, the versatility of the dewalt (while only being slightly behind the echo) seems to be the better value
Thanks for the feedback.
That's what I was thinking. I am actually not much of a tool user (yes, why do I watch these videos? Because you never know, and they're entertaining), but I'm aware that DeWalt has a ton of electric products and their batteries tend to be interchangeable, at least to an extent (I'm not sure what if any restrictions they might have, presumably some batteries aren't designed to be used with some of their tools). Yet I don't recall the Echo brand. Might have seen something of theirs in an older video, but I can't recall. So, the long term availability of their replacement batteries is suspect IMO.
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echo 58v to dewalt adapter.
That's why I went with DeWalt. Already have batteries, chargers, and tools from them. It may not be the best saw but it's pretty close for what I need it for cleaning up hurricane trees in the yard.
These are my “go to” reviews for tools and equipment. I even watch the ones for things I’ll never need.
Thank you very much!
Yup just to watch an unbiased review on anything👍 is worth the time spent. 🍳😎♨
Very well done comparison. As a seasoned engineer, if I were to do a comprehensive comparison, this is exactly how I would do it. Your data speaks for itself, and the attentive viewer will draw the same conclusion before you announce it. Excellent job! When my Oregon wears out I can now see I will replace it with an Echo.
Be careful, Echo is now ditching their 58v customers and changing everything to a 56v system with no compatibility.
PJ's the best! The new Consumers Reports done better!
thank you for including the EGO!
Great chainsaw! Glad viewers requested it!
@@ProjectFarm please do de same tests whit sub 1000 dollar chainsaws.
I want to see how it goes
Include the husqvarna 550xp
@@ProjectFarm I have the same model Ego with the 5AH battery. I just ran it through some white oak on a timer and got 6.6 minutes of run time. It's 0°C outside. This saw made me retire my gas burners unless I'm dropping a "monster" tree.
@@ProjectFarm I'd like to see how corded electric chainsaws fare in these tests. I'm betting they beat the heck out of the battery ones on run time.
@@ProjectFarm another great review. I would highly recommend the 18 inch ego over this 14. It has an advertised 11,000 rpm. I have had both and there is just no comparison
I bought the echo, based on your recommendation / test results. Awesome chainsaw. I'm even buying an extra battery for longer stays in the bush. No oil gas bs... low noise. Awesome.
You should have try the Stihl MSA 300, you with be surprise. I have the stihl 220C and 161T I just got the MSA 300 two weeks ago I have only use it for about 4 hours but I can tell you power wise have nothing to do with 220C, it is much powerful.
@@sirvozelo1 Gracias para compartir. Muy interesante. Espero que tengas un gran dia!
I have the E-GO with the larger battery, simply amazing saw. Does everything we need. Amazing what battery powered saws can do. Excellent video. We've had the E-GO for couple years, many chains replaced, still works like new.
Thanks for sharing.
I bet Stihl is having a conference by the end of the week. Even at half price that saw is overpriced.
Thing with the stihl the speed of the charger and the battery being used it many other machines, I have a hedge trimmer and lawnmower that all run on the same battery. I use the stihl for most jobs (from felling small trees, to pruning hedges or coppicing Hazel) and it works well and it's easy to maintain. Other thing to consider is how sharp the chain is etc.
Great feedback. Thank you
If the stihl cuts slower at higher rpm, the chain is dull or the chain speed is slower. It would be interesting to test with a different chain. But you expect better performance without exchanging it anyways.
@@derekwright2388 high quality battery’s aren’t cheap.
@@berndrosgen1713 It seems that the saw is underpowered. The higher chain speed at no load is useless if it slows down under load as much as is seems to in the video.
I just love when he says “we are Gona test that” and then he does. Great videos.
Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm Thanks for the reply. I was thinking maybe you could test different glues in heat and cold. Not by brand but by type so we know whats best for what application.
I just recently got the 18" EGO that came with a 5 Amp battery, it cuts through trees like butter and is quiet. I took down 6 trees in minutes while creating trails through the forest on my property. I love the EGO lineup because I can swap batteries with the other EGO power tools.
Thanks for the feedback.
Doesn’t the 18” have metal bucking spikes?
Once you have a few ego tools, you need a few more. Swapping batteries between yard equipment feels like a game changer. Plus you can choose more powerful batteries
@@SL1CEND1CEN Moooorrrre Pooooowwwweeeerrrrr!
@@SL1CEND1CEN I recently bought the EGO snow blower and it came with two 7.5 amp batteries. Now I feel the need to get more tools to make more use of these batteries once the snow is gone. I am watching this video I don't even have any trees in my yard lol.
lts see budget LED headlights vs expensive, keep the cids coming!!
Thanks for the video idea.
Yes Led Headlamps for sure.
I use Beamtech from Amazon. I've had 3 sets now and none have had any problems. On the other hand, I paid a lot more for a set of XKGlow LEDs and they never seemed happy in the cold and the fans were very loud.
@@mattholmes8214 i have used BeamTech in all of my vehicles for the last 2 years now. They are fantastic for the price and are super bright. No issues at all.
I'd recommend adding Streamlight double clutch to the test
Test cordless angle grinders. Especially the 2 Milwaukees.
Great recommendation!
@@ProjectFarm would love to see brands like ryobi, kobalt included!!
@@ProjectFarm It would be great if you could include the Metabo WB 18 LTX BL with one of theit LiHD batteries. I have tested mine against a Bosch and a DeWalt and it was more powerful. I feel like the Metabo LiHD batteries are among the most owerful tool batteries.
@@JC-uq5gi Milwaukee makes some really powerful cordless tools. But I'd say the Metabo angle grinder comes really close to the Milwaukees. I own one with 5.5Ah LiHD battery. I have compared it to Ryoby and Bosch and it has far more power. The newest Milwaukee grinder looks suspiciously similar to the Metabo design by the way...
@@christiansprojects-cgmanuf1426 the tool is only half the battle. A lot of cordless tools are majorly lacking in the battery department. Slapping a 9AH+ battery greatly improves the tools.
The world needs more man’s men like this. no bs drama or celebrity crap. just a man testing mens stuff getting down to business and making the ladies blush at the same time.
Thanks for the feedback.
These days what we see is all drama. Even a car restoration program gives 75% of their time just for drama, not to the details of the process. I hate today's TV programs.
Manly men showing off their manly tools
@@ghoulbuster1 😏😏😏
@@dhammikak What's TV?
I bought the Echo because of this video and I’m glad I did! The saw is amazing and the battery life is surprisingly long but for a big project I would recommend getting a extra battery. With 2 batteries the Echo is unstoppable!
Thanks for sharing.
I own an Echo, and I’ve always been a Stihl man. When I went looking I was at a dealer who had echo, Stihl, and Husky lines of chainsaws. He said I would be surprised at the Echo but I told him I thought they were a brand more for homeowners, not for a logger type person wanting an equal high quality performer. He then said, try it, you’ll like it. Echo has been making great strives in the world of professional lovers and for the money they’re hard to beat. Long story short, I LOVE IT!!! Thanks for your review.
The one they have in europe is even stronger. For whatever reason they aren't bringing it to the US. 2500t model.
@@nxfedlt1 do you have any pictures of it? Would you know why it’s not coming to USA? Thanks
@@rottiejakeluke there are a few reviews on YT. I called echo yesterday, and they confirmed it wouldn't be released in the US. No clue if it has to due with the batteries or what as it's a different pack. I asked about importing it, but they cautioned me about not being able to get parts or batteries.
I have had a lot of stihl stuff but have had to start to replace it all because they have all had reliability issues. I have one that one odd ball saw, a beat up old junker echo chainsaw. It has outlived all of my stihl equipment and has definitely won me over. Never had a service, just had to finally had to replace its factory bar, after over 20 years of abuse.
@@aaronatwood9298 20yrs of abuse on a factory bar. LOL
Sure enjoy the “no nonsense” testing. Thank you for sharing.
You bet!
@@ProjectFarm what do you do with these saws after your done or other items you test
Just got done watching both videos on battery powered chainsaws. Thanks for helping information and all rigorous test you put them through. They really helps give an honest opinion on which tool can do what.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Project Farm : "Up to 100 cuts per charge...we're gonna test that!"
WEN chainsaw : *"Why do I hear boss music?"*
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these videos, Todd. You’re hands down the best channel on RUclips. How about a best oil filter brand test? Thanks!
Thank you very much! Great suggestion!
@Random Stuffs nobody asked you.
@ lol honestly. This channel is amazing and there’s absolutely no denying that. To go out of your way to bring negativity into peoples lives is a really lame thing to do, especially on such a helpful, unproblematic channel
@@mikesmith2222 imagine going online and telling someone who posted their opinion that their opinion (which is subjective) was wrong. You didn't claim PF has the most subscribers you said that you think he is the best channel.
Man I was literally waiting for the notification so I could be 1st... Dam it RUclips ! Awesome video as usual! You are the F*****G KING!!!!
Thank you! Your video today on ceramic coatings is amazing!
Are we having our sunday beers a bit early today there guy? Lol.. gonna check out the hells going on with some ceramic coatings over there after sergeant farmer gets done playing with his wood..
Time to compete with the water cutter: Which iPhone models will slice into 2 fastest?
@@ProjectFarm please do bike pump
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Your testing is just the best out there. It's always nice when I'm looking to buy a new product and you have run a test on it.
Really makes choosing the correct product so much easier.
Thanks for all your time you put into making such through reviews.
Thanks and you are welcome!
I love how passionately you are about tools. It makes it interesting to watch as you cover every little detail.
I seriously love how you’re tests are preformed.
Thanks so much!
Your
Just bought the Echo saw because of this video.
It's a terrific saw! I've been using the one I tested in the video quite a bit and it cuts much faster than my gas saw of the same size
How is it, I have been thinking about making the purchase but am holding back because of the reveiws of how the battery does.
@@sumdumgoofer9032 Yeah I saw that. I am a little worried but I'd rather replace a battery than fuel lines and a carb.
@@amc31b Understandable, have a nice day.
I'm happy I already own this saw though it is a different brand on the outside in my country.
Absolutely the Best, Honest & Unbiased Review Channel on RUclips! Thank You 🙏 Brother. I honestly check your Channel before I buy anything. Hoping you have a review. Thank You Again. We all Appreciate Everything You Do.
Thanks and you are welcome!
The 16” ego comes with a 5ah battery, seems to last forever!
For reference I paid $280 for one. So the extra $50 to go from the 14” 2.5ah to the 16” 5ah is well worth it in my opinion.
Great information. Thank you!
@@dennispope8160 I started with the EGO 16", and was just amazed at it's performance. But, when the motor developed a bearing failure, it had to go in for warranty repair. They apparently replaced the motor. After receiving it back it is starting to make the same internal noise as when it first failed.
While the 16" saw was in the shop, EGO released the 18" saw, which I immediately purchased. So very glad I did. The 16" is no slouch, but the 18" does have a few features the 16" doesn't. Steel dogs, LED headlamps, and much higher RPM. My saws are used to cut decades old pacific madrone. One of the hardest woods I know of.
Prior to going cordless, my main saw was a Stihl 290 which I sold after buying the 16" EGO.
@@imonittonite oooo what do you do with that kind of wood? Also thanks for sharing.
and my son Alex rewound 710 seconds from the start of the video!
As an owner of the Makita chainsaw, I gotta say that Echo surprised me, amazing saw! Thanks for the great comparison.
You are welcome!
Me: Don’t care about chainsaws
PF: *Uploads video about chainsaws*
Me: Must watch
😂😂 me also
@@anmolpatil. Im pretty sure I’ve watched every single video from his channel, lol.
I did the same thing
Why am I no longer surprised that whenever I'm shopping for a new tool, my search results have Project Farm at the top. I"m done with my gas-powered chainsaw. Time for that electric convenience! Thank you! again and again!
Roughly 6 min run time on a roughly hour charge. That is a fairly big drawback.
Keep the gas saw for now. There are some serious improvements to make. #1, get the production out of China.
I like how you threw the dewalt tests in the graphs, great job! And thank you! Very impressed with the Echo
Id like to have seen the Oregon's auto chain sharpening in action.
Great point. I should have tested it!
@@ProjectFarm Same crappy design from the 70's, like Homelite (Sears). I can't tell you how many I had to convert to regular chain for unhappy owners.
Power sharp sucks. Owned it, used it, threw it away.
I had one and it did not work well, but they may have improved it.
@dave himlin same problems that I had.
Thank you for taking this test a step further! I was hoping you would have the Stihl in this comparison and suggested it. You are very complete and thorough with your projects and it is always a pleasure watching! Thank you for all you do! I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and New Year!
Thank you!
Just bought the EGO 16" 56v 2.5 Ah, cuts through 16" to 14" Ash effortlessly, I get about 12 cuts before a recharge, sharp metal bucking spikes and really comfortable. I love mine.
Thanks for the feedback.
I just ordered the 1611 from Ace Hardware... same battery, $219. Looking forward to using it.
Last Sunday my 19 year old Craftsman caught fire.. needed to use a fire extinguisher...no more gas saws for me.
The blessing? I used a fire extinguisher for the first time...that experience might save a life someday
I’d love to see a test on chain sharpening systems.
Thanks for the video idea.
The Granberg file and joint is hands down the best system. Makes every tooth geometry, depth and height identical so the saw cuts fast, straight (uneven cutters will cause it not to) and smoooooooth.
@@procrastinator1842 I use high speed roto tool or take it in to guy that can get better than new.
@@sunnydays4966 Roto tools do not do a good job, they leave burrs on the teeth. The Granberg gets better than factory results every time.
@@procrastinator1842 taking the to professional the best I can get them.
You should test strongest 1/2" socket wrenches! Include Snap-On in the test to see if they are worth their high price!
I think AvE already did that, he's got a pretty interesting test rig.
Thanks for the video idea.
old snap on or new snap on...same deal with sidchrome
@@lovotcore6946 not the Hazet 916HP, though, with 1000Nm load capability.
@@grumpyoldman-21 It would be a shame to deliberately break any old Australian made Sidchrome, the new stuff is still nice, the old stuff is fantastic
I was pleased to see that you reviewed the EGO! Thank you for such an excellent review!
I love this guys channel, I’m literally watching this to decide if a battery powered chainsaw is the way to go.
Thank you, hope you find what you are looking for!
You have the absolute best, most complete, scientific reviews.
Everytime I need to buy a tool, I check here 1st.
Thanks so much!
Wow, you made another one? Seriously the best reviews Ive seen. Thank you.
Wow, thanks!
All that cutting.
"Comes with 5 years warranty, tomorrow we gona test that".
Next updated manual will have a warranty clause: Do NOT reverse engineer that includes youtube smartasses !
I can personally speak to echo's 5 year warranty. (Parent company is TTI) At the beginning of November I warrantied a broken battery that was 2 weeks away from the 5 year warranty expiration. (home depot emails you receipts makes it very easy to keep track of receipts...). I forwarded the home depot's receipt to TTI's customer service representative and they shipped me a new 2ah battery. They took my word that the old battery was dead and they asked me to dispose of it.
@@Nyall howd you dispose of it?
@@southaussiegarbo2054 You can recycle lithium ION batteries at homedepot.
@@Nyall australia dont got that.
But just thought id ask bc 90% of ppl just toss any batteries into the garbage bin which is a huge no no
I'm so glad to see you with nearly 2.5 million subscribers. I have recommended your channel to all my friends and family. Thank you for your reviews. And please don't sell out to any corporate interests. That's what makes you my go to.
Thanks!
I learn so much more real world knowledge from watching all your videos than I ever did from any school or college. Our family lives 100% off the grid & we all learn so much Valuable Information & Knowledge from you. It has made our transition to the off Grid life so easy. Thank you & God Bless you. You are a Real Teacher & Educator teaching Real World Education. We have the Ego Platform of Battery Powered tools Etc & couldn’t be happier. 🍻
Wow, thank you!
Power tools and RUclips off the grid???? Sounds like you connected to the grid, my great uncle was off the grid he walked miles for water, built windmills and stored energy as hydrogen, before that he was without power. He was 98 broke his hip and was brought to the farm where the pump went out so he cut a hole in ice for water they put him in nursing home he quickly decided he didn’t want to live and passed at 99.
@@redforman9217 i was thinking the same and that man lived long to be off the grid lol
Big deal, 7500 generations back my great grand pappy had no tv or internet and lived in a cave. He did "summer" in a tree.
“You can’t keep using your RUclips as an excuse to stockpile random power tools!”- his wife probably
lol Thanks for watching.
"But honey, you're going to miss our army of chainsaw-mowers when the zombies come"
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One of the rare instances were price doesn’t match performance. Thanks for a great video. The Echo and Ego both impressed me.
I think where EGO wins is the ecosystem of compatible products. Nobody else can match that. I have two batteries for like 7 devices! Mower, blower, hedge trimmer, string trimmer, chainsaw, multi head system: currently just the edger!
@@emotionz3 more or less all brands from this video has multi sistems ( one battery - lots of devises who can use that batery)
The Wen has a surprisingly good ecosystem as well. Too bad the performance isn't there.
I have watched nearly every he has put out, and it's not at all a rare instance. Often times you are paying for the name rather than the quality
Typically with chainsaws more expensive = more durable and lighter weight, not necessarily cuts faster.
YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB ON YOUR VIDEOS , NO BLARING HARD ROCK MUSIC TO GO THROUGH , JUST GOOD CLEAR HONEST TEST , YOU ALWAYS DO AND SHOW THE BEST WAYS TO MAKE THE TEST EQUAL AND HONEST . AND HONESTY IS ALWAYS BEST " WHERE HONESTY MATTERS !" two thumbs way up on your videos and work .
Thanks so much!
I love how thorough you are in doing your tests. You've been a tremendous help in my search for quality tools 👍
Thank you! Glad to hear!
Quality... Dewalt is contractor grade stuff... Can't get much better than that...
Dewalt, makita etc have a large catalog of battery powered tools available, and that's probably worth considering / going over in the reviews also. Great vid!
Thanks for the suggestion.
That was in the first video. This is a part 2
@@laa0fa502 I think he's bringing up the point that if you buy the Stihl or Echo...that's all you get. You'd likely have no other use for the battery or no spare batteries for that tool whereas if you bought the Milwaukee/Makita/DeWalt or even the Ego you might already have outdoor power equipment or tools that can extend the use of the kit.
echo 58v to dewalt or makita adapter
Thanks PF, another great review. I'd like to see how the 18" EGO with the 5 or 7.5aH battery would have done.
You are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.
Yes I only looked at the charts and did not know the size or battery of the ego.. I will say having both the 16 and 18 that the 16 is gathering dust right now.
I went with the Ego because I also have their back pack blower and string weed trimer and the batteries are all interchangeable. I also think the Ego chainsaw wins here for its Price/Performance ratio.
I bought an Ego 18” from Amazon on November 8th. I had to send it back for a replacement. Got the replacement on November 27th. Sending replacement back today for full refund. A cut which should have been 5 seconds took me 20 minutes.
Ego customer support is useless if you are within 30 days of your purchase date. Your only option is to return it.
Interchangeable batteries makes my life better
@@rumba215 Sounds like user error.
@@Intentionally_Inflammatory ikr he coulda just sawed it manually with the chainsaw lmao
@@Intentionally_Inflammatory Yeah, I 100% guarantee the chain was backwards. My old boss did that once, damn near set the tree on fire before cutting it. Hard to believe you would make it all the way to 2 replacements before looking at your own issues. This test shows that the differences are small amounts of speed, not literally doesn't work vs does.
I bought the EGO 16" a couple of years ago, and I'm pretty happy with it. All my yard tools are EGO, so I have multiple batteries available. The 5ah battery works well for the little cutting I have to do. The 2.5ah battery only ever gets used on the weed whacker.
Thanks for the feedback.
Have you bought any of the knockoff Ego compatible batteries? If so what was your experience.
Ego batteries are near as expensive as the 16" Ego saw itself!
Again thank you for this test! As part of a "gardening" ecosystem of tools, I find the EGO very interesting because we will have multiple batteries with multiple tools, so it will be easy to swap batteries.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Loving my Ego trimmer, edger and blower. Awesome to know the chainsaw holds it's own as well!
This guy deserves two subs for every one sub! He does an excellent job, we need more people like project farm!
Thank you!
I've had my echo going on 4 years I'm glad to see that your video backed up what I knew I would recommend that echo to anyone that wants battery operated chainsaw
Thanks for the feedback.
Absolutely the best ever comparison. We’ve subscribed and will be watching more of “Project Farm” videos. Thank you so much for all the time you spent creating these comparisons.
Thanks so much! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Very comprehensive testing covering a vast array of different features! Super job! Consise, amazing editing! Thank you! Your channel is 5 Stars!
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the superb video. This is one of the few reviews/comparisons that shows real differences between products. You are so thorough and come at it from so many different angles. Other reviewers would look at things superficially, leaving me to discover true shortcomings of the products on my own. You have left no stone unturned. Have a wonderful New Year!
You are welcome! Happy New Year!
DeWalt is perhaps the most consistently good power tool brand in my experience. I've never been disappointed with one of their tools. Ryobi seems to do really well for the price, and the warranty is impressive. I might just have to buy some battery adapters and mix and match. :)
Thanks for the feedback.
Agreed, I started getting a lot of DeWalt tools after my dad gave me some of his old stuff and I just started building out my collection on that battery platform. I have yet to be disappointed with any of their tools. They don't always win these comparisons but they're always toward the top.
Yeah, I'm impressed. Their 60v series batteries give stuff like a chainsaw a while lot of juice with less heavy guage wire needed.
I would love to see a video about conditioning hard water. Salt based water softener vs salt free water conditioners. I've seen/heard mixed results regarding electronic water descalers as well. Thanks for your hard work!
Very interesting review. I'm a heavy battery chainsaw user and owned the Ego, Dewalt, Echo and today I purchased the Stihl. The Ego and Dewalt are not intended for heavy use and returned them almost immediately. I used the Echo intensively for a little over a year, it's great but had some issues (chain falling off easily) and the motor stopped working - I would say it's more a prosumer model. I have not used the Stihl yet but hopefully I will have it for many years! One missing contender for round 3 is the husqvarna 540i XP!
Great recommendation on the round 3! Thank you
If you are doing heavy use chainsawing, then you should be using gas chainsaws
@@SL1CEND1CEN not necessarily, with additional batteries you can last a long time. They don't smell and are much quieter, gas chainsaws will slowly disappear
@@SL1CEND1CEN The Stihl 220 with ap300s last about 1h of non stop use, when I need much more I use a corded chainsaw
You really do listen to comments! There's the Ego!
Thank you! I held off on buying all of the saws for a couple of weeks but had to do it! EGO makes a great saw
I’ve never even used a chainsaw before yet here I am watching chainsaw reviews. Thanks so much for your content, very entertaining and informative. I feel like I’ll be in a better spot once I become a homeowner thanks to your videos.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Do I need a chainsaw? No. Am I going to enjoy this video and challenges he puts them through? Yes.
Thanks for watching!
With the holidays coming up, you probably figure it’s a good time to clean your carpet. Could you do a test on which carpet shampoo gives the best results?
Great idea!
I suggest using the pink gojo hand cleaner greasy mechanics use. I've seen it remove concrete powder dyes from carpets.
Carpet shampoo? Seriously?
Carpet extractors!!!
Just use regular laundry detergent, that's what I do!
Perfect timing! Looking at battery powered chainsaws for Christmas gifts! But Merry Christmas Project Farm!
Thanks, you too!
Solid solid solid video... one could certainly dive into analysis paralysis with this sort of thing but you kept it moving and got the info on the table. Well done and thank you Sir!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Man, I was hoping to see harbor frieghts saw in this one.... maybe there will be a round 3! Thanks for the videos!!
There are other videos on YT where the HF Atlas battery stops on thermal overload while cutting under load. Battery will show 50% charge, but won't function until it cools down. Have no idea if their experiences are typical. Otherwise, the guys in the videos seems to like them. Dunno.
I wonder if ProjectFarm experienced any thermal battery issues in his tests thus far...
Thanks for the suggestion.
Why even bother with the Harbor Freight saw when the Echo blew the others out of the water. Good price too.
Convenient, I was watching part 1 earlier today trying to decide what to buy.
Other than depot dropping ego brand I'd suggest looking into that further
I... what?
Try testing the 18" EGO, it should do extremely well.
have that saw it is great
@@morgancoldfirecoldfire8256 same 2.5 battery?
@@JTA1961 18inch comes with a 5.0 or a 7.5 I believe
@@JTA1961 5 amp battery
@@JTA1961 it will detect the bigger battery and give more power to the cut
Only recently found your videos, and I am quickly understanding why you have 2 mil plus subs. No filler all killer. Excellent, informative stuff my man!
Welcome! Thanks!
A great round-up between this one and the earlier one. Thanks for including the EGO. Although the Echo is amazing, I would opt for either the DeWalt or the EGO simply because I've invested in those battery technologies already around my house. The DW already has a great battery, but with the EGO, I'd buy the bare tool and use my other 5.0 amp hour batteries with the chainsaw. Those are just some additional things to consider besides just performance; things such as battery conformity and what you already own as that will reduce the "entry price" into a new tool. Great job. I love your videos!
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
totally agree. The echo is better, but the versatility of the dewalt batteries means I have about a dozen 60v batteries to swap in/out as well as two large 4 battery charger. I have other yard tools that are dewalt as well as the normal shop tools.
While the echo might be a bit faster, but it would be a large investment for an only slightly better tool.
The ego saw is a terrible piece of equipment.
@@jamiebiddix4302why do you say that?
@@DADVNTRSI owned it. It wasn't powerful enough or had a long enough battery life to cut a tree down equal to the bar size of 18in.
I realize that markets and prices fluctuate like crazy but including a price comparison of extra batteries(maybe just msrp? Idk..) would also be very helpful. Whenever I upgrade from my little b&d lcs1240, probably going to get the Makita because it nearish the top of the last video and comes with 2 full sets of batteries.
Echo safety is at least equally a pain to use for righties and lefties.
Great point!
Shouldn't use a chainsaw left handed.
Looks like it would affect productivity. Especially with a gloved hand.
hahahahaha it is good to be fair and equitable right!
Equal opportunity
Best video on electric cordless chainsaws as it covered all pertinent features in a clear, concise manner. Thank you!!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Just bought the 16” EGO and was very impressed with its performance. I do agree that a larger battery would be beneficial. I filled about half a truck bed with firewood before the battery died. I then grabbed my dads 20V dewalt and it had nowhere near the power. After one cut we switched to a gas chainsaw to finish up. The EGO cut better and faster than the gas, but that could’ve been due to a newer chain.
Thanks for your review. It made my decision so much easier.
Great feedback! Thank you
You must have been using either a gas saw under 60 cc or the chain was dull. Any pro saw 60 cc and up will destroy these battery saws.
That’s exactly what I wanted to see! Looks like I’ll be picking up a new Echo saw this week.
Thanks for sharing.
If you're interested in battery-powered tools, you're buying into a whole line of tools and not just the chainsaw. Make sure to compare the whole lineup. (I own the Echo chainsaw and string trimmer; Dewalt hedge trimmer, blower, and drill.)
@@CodeKujo all my cordless tools are Milwaukee. I thought about getting their cordless saw but the performance didn’t really impress me(at least what I saw in various reviews) and it was more expensive. I’m just tired of messing with a gas saw. Seem like if it sits for more than a few months, it won’t start.
@@motowipeout5670 Sadly modern fuel goes bad pretty quickly and the ethanol ruins the diaphragm etc in the carb pretty quick too. Most of my professional equipment today is Echo, love it, used to run mostly stihl but prices are silly and the quality dropped.
How long did the Stihl ms 170 cut wood for, before needing to be refilled.
Doesn't really matter much. Refilling a gas saw takes seconds. 2 minutes if you need to measure oil. For electric it matters because you need to time your 40-90 minute breaks.
@@JC-fj7oo a very good point indeed, but the times would have been nice to see, the Stihl ms 170 is a much better option, when I use a chainsaw it's often a lot longer than a few minutes.
@@williamrutter3619 better is going to completely depend. Obviously if you're a professional logger, you're going to want a gas chainsaw.
Or if you happen to own a very large farm, or a small forrest, park ranger... Gas is going to be the right choice.
For 99% of people who aren't loggers, an electric chainsaw just makes sense. No pulling no priming no maintenance no storing gas no mixing no ear protection. You don't have to carry a running saw up a ladder, and they're easier to use at odd angles for pruning.
And if you watch the end of the video he says that echo should be able to cut 32 times through a fairly thick hardwood tree. If you have an extra battery that's 60 cuts. After cutting 60 logs you're going to want to take a hour off anyway. Eat some food, let the batteries recharge. And get back to work. Or use the time efficiently, use an ax to start limbing and splitting.
Plus I don't know if you noticed but the cut times for the echo were actually faster than both the stihl. Gas and electric.
But even the Ryobi and the ego which are about the same price as the stihl 170 / 171 did a good job too. And they're still going to be a better choice for most people.
@@JC-fj7oo one tree can be quite considerably large, and they do fall, I live on farm, not large one, a tree can take day's to sort out, 7 mins isn't running through logs isn't going to work, these petrol chainsaws start pretty easy it isn't an issue and the clutch and chain brake stops the chain from moving, a responsible owner or tenant of property needs a good chainsaw, being out of battery isn't an option.
@@williamrutter3619 Apparently you can't read, because I did say that people on farms might want a gas saw. And no a tenant should NEVER be using a chainsaw on the property, they should be calling the landlord and the landlord should be doing it or calling a service to do it. The insurance nightmare of a tenant spending hundreds on a saw and potentially causing thousands in damage or harming/killing someone/themselves to save a couple hundred on a tree service... That's retarded. And I do not use that word lightly.
For a truck saw to clear a road or do some basic emergency cuts, electric works better. It's easier to store, it always starts. The gas doesn't go bad. No priming or pulling or standing in the cold trying to fuck with it. Slide the battery on, push the trigger. Put the battery on a charger once a year... Good to go.
Also important to mention that the 170 and all of the electric are LIGHT duty saws. They are for homeowners and landscapers to quickly cut down and process a couple trees once in a while. Deal with limbs. Basic homeowner tasks. If you have a forest or a farm and need to cut down larger trees regularly, then you will want a bigger and more powerful saw. Expect to pay 4-500 for a pro tool.
But for the 99.99% of the world that has never felled a redwood: The electric is fine.
Even wranglerstar had a vid about it. He hates anything new, but he said he mostly reaches for his dewalt now. His wife and kid prefer to use the dewalt. And he has a bunch of other high quality chainsaws and manages a small forest. He got 25 cuts with his test. If you use an axe and pruners for limbing, you should be able to fell and buck a 50' tree on a single charge.
And again, the vast majority of people are not qualified to cut down a tree that's more than 50' anyway. And with a spare batt they can do 2 of them. After a couple hours you can come back and do 2 more.
If you need to fell more than 4 50ft trees in a day, that's NOT light duty. And you can rent a 20" chainsaw for like $50 for the day. But that's also way outside the scope of what almost all homeowners are doing with their saws.
Something that is easier and faster for a shorter period of time, but still plenty to get the job done, is going to be better for most people.
It you don't happen to be like most people, woohoo, you're special. Good for you.
Ego on the 5 Ah battery is the win overall. Not comparing apples with apples here. You literally said it. Thanks for the vid.