DI + perfect shield after gettin in the combo man, with some characters like Cpt Falcon you can even shield the first uptilt :) As a mario mainer, I use this combo for judging the game knowledge of my foe, it's pretty useless once someone just find he can dodge the stuff, even if he dont know how, he will find it quick
Even when you have around 30% and the first Utilt goes off, you can Hold your control stick Diagonally away to avoid the following hits, it's not hard...
Dthrow Dtilt Dtilt UtiltUtilt(Utilt(UtiltUtilt))Shorthop Uair Uair jump Uair Uspecial 60% dmg cheap as fuck these brackets mean weight classes(the deeper in them the heavier they have to be for it to work)
***** At 0 percent, where a lot of characters can avoid other up tilts, it's best to go for Up throw to down air. It's a much more reliable combo early in the match anyway.
I love that you took the time to play each character on a franchise appropriate stage. Wish I could give you a second like just for that attention to detail.
666blaziken Funny how that type of comment is exactly the one below yours(from my point of view, at least. Dunno if that would change for anyone else). XD
quick question: would you recommend the super jump for doctor mario as a custom? it does give him more height (which lord knows he needs) on his recovery but it loses the hitbox
It's tough to say because normal up b helps him escape multi hit moves as well as being a great out of shield option, but you could sacrifice that for more recovery.
+chungo I have an idea! Keep his normal Up-B for all the stuff Cartererer said but switch his Down-B into custom move #2 Soaring Tornado, a great kill move and if mashed, a great recovery option! Use Soaring Tornado with his normal Up-B and you got a great recovery (sort of but it still works).
additional jiggs combo: short hop up angled pound blitz (may have to change angle depending on weight & fall speed) to double jump default rest. can kill a midweight around mid 30's with no di
I noticed (and tried out) the up air do d-air for kirby and that doesn't seem to be a true combo. Is it a trap? So if they jump they're trapped in it and if they air dodge the invincibility will run out before the move ends?
I know people are like "you can tech these" true but these combos are for what if situations. If you aren't skilled in punishing a failed tech, you might be throwing away a lot of matches. These combos are like Street fighter 4 vortex combos. If you aren't skilled in escaping the vortex you're gonna be taking a lot of damage. Same can go for Smash 4 failing to tech a combo. So if you wanna get better at Smash you better know how to punish these failed techs to it's fullest.
+Sergei Acenas It's hard to tell a lot of new comers about jab locs in smash. You have to do it to them to make them understand. most skilled players will tech, but there are setups to for jab locks. pikachu's forward throw and N-air are good Moves to catch even the highest of level players off guard. oh well stuff like this separates skilled and beginner players and I like that.
Going back and watching this again after a while (this time all the way through), it reminds me how fun customs were/are. It also reminds me how Marth's jab used to jab lock. Then they had to "buff" it to be a kill setup move, thus taking away many of his setups in the process. Seriously, they could've made down tilt into a kill setup instead so we could still have his jab lock.
Can I just say how INSANELY early Ganondorf's 2nd custom up-b (dark fists) kills at? I mean the thing can kill mario at like 60 percent, AND can be comboed of of side-b #1 if the miss the tech!
For those of you that want a quick way of getting custom moves, I discovered that all-star mode is a surprisingly good method, but you should play as the character you want to get custom moves for.
This makes me want to play Smash 4 again. It’s understandable that these were broken, but it makes for a great casual experience. I do however think that Mii Fighters are better in Ultimate since some moves were altered with Sword fighter being much more viable and Brawler has new moves like suplex.
There are a few combos I've seen in Sm4sh involving Ganondorf and his ridiculously good side and down b custom moves. The multihit side b can combo into itself if the opponent doesn't roll forward to tech after being knocked down, after which the long diagonal down b will combo onto an opponent trying to recover in most cases, with about 7 characters who can't dodge or avoid it at all, and around 30 characters who can't DI it at all after certain percentages. Additionally, A fast enough Ness can combo the multihit thunder with PK Fire or Bonfire for huge amounts of damage and stun. Also, as a Link main I can confirm around 20 combos he can perform using proper bomb setup, and aerials and a grab or two, one of which is only possible on Smashville that cannot be tech'd, lasts around 7 hits, involves the regular bomb, quick arrows, regular boomerang, and any of the spins, save for the non damaging one.
Wow you are the first person to make a combo video of this :O That's why you are one of my favorite Sm4sh players (not to mention you're still the best mario in ssf2 :P)
i'm training with Luigi, and I have the CPU at 100% but I cannot actually get the Iceballs consistently hit and freeze like in this video. I always run out of time to actually do it. I don't get it.
Nice Mario, Luigi, Link and Kirby tech, though the Kirby neutral B worries me (more testing!) A few questions, does getting hit while in that Hard knockdown state (don't know the term for it in Smash, but you know the state of knock down that allows you to do the 3 hit jab lock combo.) force you to only recover standing up? Like you can't recover/tech that any other way? (I'm mostly referencing the segments where you use fast projectiles to combo while they are in Hard knockdown.)
yes ever since melee if you are hit with a weak attack within the first I think 20 frames of landing on the ground you are forced to do a standard get up so the opponent gets a free follow up. However if you are hit after the first 20 frames of landing you still have control of all your get up options so you gotta be quick if you want to force them into a standard get up.
Are you talking about a Jab lock combo? That requires three fast light hits, otherwise it doesn't force a neutral recovery. Try on a person and they can still influence the ground recovery until the third hit, so you'd have to change the combos for a lot of these, although the fast fireball/pill customs for doc and Mario would probably meet the frame criteria for jab locking at close enough range.
Bob bobby brown the boblicious bob murderer and god of all worlds He probably meant "up to three hits". If you hit a grounded opponent more than 3 times, he can get up any way he wants: get-up attack, roll, normal get-up.
Can someone explain the practicality of this stuff to me? Like all these strings where you knock them down and then hit them as they get up, what makes that a combo? Can't they just tech when they hit the ground?
In a competitive match an opponent may not be able to perfectly press the tech button before landing. When they do land, if its not teched, once they are hit by a locking move they cannot getup. Their character will automatically attempt to standing getup for them.
TheRealCartererer Some of the combos can easily be escaped but besides that, thanks. I'm definitely going to use some of these when I battle with custom moves :)
Joe Lipari thats the custom down b called leaping rest. it does a huge leap into the air really fast all on its own and has a decent attack for KOing (but clearly not as strong as normal rest)
many of these only work when the opponent misstechs because majority of these combo's are more like jab locks which will only work when the opponent miss techs or not techs at all. if you tech at the moment diddy falls on the ground he will get immediately and the whole combo will break
Damn I knew the existence of the down throw to chain judge (less risky than judge) but i thought it only worked at low percent, i forgot it could work at high percent if you jump after the throw.
Clearly this person is not versed in the art of Mario down grab, uptilt, uptilt, uptilt, uptilt, uptilt, uptilt, uptilt
DI + perfect shield after gettin in the combo man, with some characters like Cpt Falcon you can even shield the first uptilt :)
As a mario mainer, I use this combo for judging the game knowledge of my foe, it's pretty useless once someone just find he can dodge the stuff, even if he dont know how, he will find it quick
Even when you have around 30% and the first Utilt goes off, you can Hold your control stick Diagonally away to avoid the following hits, it's not hard...
you forgot the u-air
Dthrow Dtilt Dtilt UtiltUtilt(Utilt(UtiltUtilt))Shorthop Uair Uair jump Uair Uspecial
60% dmg
cheap as fuck
these brackets mean weight classes(the deeper in them the heavier they have to be for it to work)
***** At 0 percent, where a lot of characters can avoid other up tilts, it's best to go for Up throw to down air. It's a much more reliable combo early in the match anyway.
Iceball Luigi was goddamn glorious
+Triixster So fucking majestic.
Triixster I 100% agree with both of you!
@@gavinhuynh37 ayyyyyyy
It was so OP especially with that custom cyclone. I miss Smash 4 Luigi.
The fact all of these are performed on Diddy makes it all the sweeter.
RIP : Dickhead Diddy
No jiggly puff did one on link
Kangdide also link did one on ganondorf
G&W did one on Zelda and Falco
ikr he’s an ass
You managed to make Hyper Voice, Pound Blitz and *Leaping Rest* actually useful in some way.
I'm convinced you are made of MAGIC.
The Scout Here pound blitz is actually good.
And leaping rest lets you up throw rest. It's not good, but it's there
I tested and obviously U-Smash,U-Tilt,landing U-Air,U throw,and Pound Blitz can can set up for a kill comfirm at around 68-110%.Its awesome...
I always use Pound Blitz, and sometimes Hyper Voice and Leaping Rest.
Leaping rest it's SO GOOD i don't know what you're talking about
I love that you took the time to play each character on a franchise appropriate stage. Wish I could give you a second like just for that attention to detail.
INB4 people saying, "oh, well any good player can get out of these combos using DI and spot dodging, there are no combos in smash 4."
666blaziken Funny how that type of comment is exactly the one below yours(from my point of view, at least. Dunno if that would change for anyone else). XD
They wouldn't be wrong since you could easily tech and DI would make most of these impossible
More than half of these required missed techs. Some two or even three in a row. Smash 4 does have combos, but a lot of these were escapable.
0:00 Mario
0:49 Luigi
1:30 Donkey Kong
1:38 Game & Watch
2:05 Link
3:06 Ganon
4:00 Samus
5:16 Kirby
6:34 Falco
7:32 Jigglypuff
8:13 Captain Falcon
8:18 Dr. Mario
9:17 Megaman
10:04 Marth
Jigglypuff is my best main. And some others too.
You REALLY hate Diddy Kong XD
Who doesn't ?
lol I do the same thing when trying to find combos. If it can't work on Diddy, I consider it situational.
Tony123C HA!
***** found the Diddy main everyone!
Jack Erb Who doesn't?
you know this vid is old when marths jab still jab-resets
And that Falco D-air too
Falco Dair actually reset tho
Now does it?
Jayden Gipson Marth still can just difficult to pull off
Dab?
Imagine giving Mario shoryuken and thinking, "yes. This seems perfectly balanced."
This is so sick! I main Mario and his customs for comboing are just too good! Cant wait to see more!
5:17 I can already see Chudat going crazy.
SIMIFU No. Not until they change the ledge grab mechanics back to the way they were before, because Chudat is a bitch just like that.
No he isn't...
+ChillTerumi chu does that for the laugh
Jamie Hyland Whatever. My point still stands.
SIMIFU the suck and shoot
Why are they mostly just revamps of the SAME combo?
+The Tuxed Brine I think it's to show that you can still do the at higher percents and you can K.O with them eventually
some of them were like with the ice fire (luigi) and the close range shot (samus)
smily literally all of the samus combos apart from 2 were standard samus combos
Most of these are standard with custom finishers.
Thanks for all the work you put into this! Definitely great to watch
That Link quickfire bow is awesome. Didnt realize it cancelled on the ground like that... almost reminds me of melee fox and his lasers.
more like falcos lasers in brawl
@@TalDreamcast Agree!!!
im glad Kirby has good customs, he deserves it
Amazing stuff! Customs are so awesome! Looking forward to more characters :)
When you hate diddy kong
Always hated those snarky apes.
2:05 The truest of combos.
*B O O M H E A D S H O T*
For Glory Link
quick question: would you recommend the super jump for doctor mario as a custom? it does give him
more height (which lord knows he needs) on his recovery but it loses the hitbox
It's tough to say because normal up b helps him escape multi hit moves as well as being a great out of shield option, but you could sacrifice that for more recovery.
+chungo
I have an idea! Keep his normal Up-B for all the stuff Cartererer said but switch his Down-B into custom move #2 Soaring Tornado, a great kill move and if mashed, a great recovery option! Use Soaring Tornado with his normal Up-B and you got a great recovery (sort of but it still works).
+TheRealCartererer do they work online
Casual Killing Spree Welcome To The Apocalypse You can't use customs online unless you play with friends.
Love those luigi combos. Nice how you knew where the DI was going
additional jiggs combo: short hop up angled pound blitz (may have to change angle depending on weight & fall speed) to double jump default rest. can kill a midweight around mid 30's with no di
TheRealCartererer I liked how you implemented jab locking into some of the combos. Really sweetened it up...
Anyway, Great Video!!
Jiggs melee up throw to rest confirmed
and we got the short hop laser cancel trick at 2:06 (i dont remember whats its actually called sorry melee players)
Sam Bloomsburg you came close, it's short hop double laser
That Shadow Blade into ANYTHING combo has me really interested in the attack now. Sick moves bro.
I noticed (and tried out) the up air do d-air for kirby and that doesn't seem to be a true combo. Is it a trap? So if they jump they're trapped in it and if they air dodge the invincibility will run out before the move ends?
Those Ganondorf combos were spectacular. Great video overall.
Now that was sick combos.
Never even thought about ledge-cancelled Custom Sing. Genius
I know people are like "you can tech these" true but these combos are for what if situations. If you aren't skilled in punishing a failed tech, you might be throwing away a lot of matches. These combos are like Street fighter 4 vortex combos. If you aren't skilled in escaping the vortex you're gonna be taking a lot of damage. Same can go for Smash 4 failing to tech a combo. So if you wanna get better at Smash you better know how to punish these failed techs to it's fullest.
Thank you. These skrubs don't know what they're talking about.
+Sergei Acenas It's hard to tell a lot of new comers about jab locs in smash. You have to do it to them to make them understand. most skilled players will tech, but there are setups to for jab locks. pikachu's forward throw and N-air are good Moves to catch even the highest of level players off guard. oh well stuff like this separates skilled and beginner players and I like that.
Going back and watching this again after a while (this time all the way through), it reminds me how fun customs were/are. It also reminds me how Marth's jab used to jab lock. Then they had to "buff" it to be a kill setup move, thus taking away many of his setups in the process. Seriously, they could've made down tilt into a kill setup instead so we could still have his jab lock.
Yeah I miss the jab lock into tipper, now only dair can lock at low percents but the landing lag is too long to get any decent follow ups.
Goodness, this game looks so much better with customs. 0.0 Those luigi iceballs look awesome!
Can I just say how INSANELY early Ganondorf's 2nd custom up-b (dark fists) kills at? I mean the thing can kill mario at like 60 percent, AND can be comboed of of side-b #1 if the miss the tech!
These are insane!! :O
Bro, fucking awesome video. I'd love to see more!
For those of you that want a quick way of getting custom moves, I discovered that all-star mode is a surprisingly good method, but you should play as the character you want to get custom moves for.
I agree
I use 3ds and smash run is already pretty cool so that's what I do it's surprisingly effective
This makes me want to play Smash 4 again. It’s understandable that these were broken, but it makes for a great casual experience. I do however think that Mii Fighters are better in Ultimate since some moves were altered with Sword fighter being much more viable and Brawler has new moves like suplex.
Nice!
By the way, thanks for hitting Diddy.
This video brings me a lot of hope.
There are a few combos I've seen in Sm4sh involving Ganondorf and his ridiculously good side and down b custom moves. The multihit side b can combo into itself if the opponent doesn't roll forward to tech after being knocked down, after which the long diagonal down b will combo onto an opponent trying to recover in most cases, with about 7 characters who can't dodge or avoid it at all, and around 30 characters who can't DI it at all after certain percentages. Additionally, A fast enough Ness can combo the multihit thunder with PK Fire or Bonfire for huge amounts of damage and stun. Also, as a Link main I can confirm around 20 combos he can perform
using proper bomb setup, and aerials and a grab or two, one of which is only possible on Smashville that cannot be tech'd, lasts around 7 hits, involves the regular bomb, quick arrows, regular boomerang, and any of the spins, save for the non damaging one.
Does anyone know how to get the cute custom down b shown in the video for ganondorf?
This video makes me reconsider Crescent Slash, among other things.
Nice.
I love the fact that you used Diddy as the guinea pig.
Customs : the meta where you must tech or you're jablocked to death.
Though some combos are really cool and creative Gj.
When does rage start? Is it past 100 percent?
I'm glad this is all on Diddy! :)
What are the best custom moves for greninja?
These are awesome. I don't really see too many people uploading videos about custom moves at this level of quality. Are you planning on making more?
7:14 Wow, the custom blaster actualy changes the throw! Is it just for visual or does the knockback/damage differ?
I'm think so also it doesn't change for fox
No Diddy kongs were harmed during the making of this video!!
Wow you are the first person to make a combo video of this :O That's why you are one of my favorite Sm4sh players (not to mention you're still the best mario in ssf2 :P)
Mr.Z Who is he in ssf2?
+Stephen Guo ssf2 stands for super smash flash 2
Im confused luigis ice fireball doesn't freeze for me did it get nerfed
THIS is the video I want to see! Abusing diddy Kong for 10 minutes!
Very impressive! :)
i'm training with Luigi, and I have the CPU at 100% but I cannot actually get the Iceballs consistently hit and freeze like in this video. I always run out of time to actually do it. I don't get it.
5:43
those Kirby true combos though. so beautiful
TanTaco actually ran a Custom Kirby with Jumping Inhale & Upper Cutter in custom triples. It was glorious to say the least. XD
2:06 Whaddaya gotta say now, Fox players?
let's get some melee up in here
Orenjiboy135 ...I don't get it.
hermesleao Do you know Fox's blaster trick, where he jumps up & down while shooting?
Orenjiboy135 Yeah...ohh, that's what you meant. OK, thanks.
Kurenai MAYLAY
Nice Mario, Luigi, Link and Kirby tech, though the Kirby neutral B worries me (more testing!) A few questions, does getting hit while in that Hard knockdown state (don't know the term for it in Smash, but you know the state of knock down that allows you to do the 3 hit jab lock combo.) force you to only recover standing up?
Like you can't recover/tech that any other way? (I'm mostly referencing the segments where you use fast projectiles to combo while they are in Hard knockdown.)
yes ever since melee if you are hit with a weak attack within the first I think 20 frames of landing on the ground you are forced to do a standard get up so the opponent gets a free follow up. However if you are hit after the first 20 frames of landing you still have control of all your get up options so you gotta be quick if you want to force them into a standard get up.
Are you talking about a Jab lock combo? That requires three fast light hits, otherwise it doesn't force a neutral recovery. Try on a person and they can still influence the ground recovery until the third hit, so you'd have to change the combos for a lot of these, although the fast fireball/pill customs for doc and Mario would probably meet the frame criteria for jab locking at close enough range.
ShiftandFriends u can ja b reset in smash4 doesnt need 3 hits sigh
Bob bobby brown the boblicious bob murderer and god of all worlds He probably meant "up to three hits". If you hit a grounded opponent more than 3 times, he can get up any way he wants: get-up attack, roll, normal get-up.
hermesleao was explaining that doesnt need to be three hit
So does this mean.....up throw rest is back?
:O amazing!
Can someone explain the practicality of this stuff to me? Like all these strings where you knock them down and then hit them as they get up, what makes that a combo? Can't they just tech when they hit the ground?
no cause is a jab reset set up
Chucho Silva they can tech before they fall for many of them
In a competitive match an opponent may not be able to perfectly press the tech button before landing. When they do land, if its not teched, once they are hit by a locking move they cannot getup. Their character will automatically attempt to standing getup for them.
Now that I think about it, we haven't actually seen a Kirby free fall animation until customs, right?
TheRealCartererer Some of the combos can easily be escaped but besides that, thanks. I'm definitely going to use some of these when I battle with custom moves :)
That custom 9 on g&w is so satisfying
Why combo a target that just gets up calmly from the ground?
Just curious, which character do you think has the most benefits from custom moves?
Really good combos great job man
Imo, kirby. His up b 3 is like the best move in the game to me lol
that up b 3 of kirby's alone maid him one of my mains. also palutena and mii's (except sword fighter) really benefit from their customs.
+leronne clemencia Don't forget dk's lagless kong cyclone.
Love those lugi ice combos
The fast pill/fireball have a lot of combo potential since you can jab reset them from far away.
Rosa: This is simply the benefit of training!😌
2:06
Ganondorf: "Seriously, you're not even going to kill me? Just keep annoying me? Ugh."
You make custom moves look useful.
*Cough* Breezy Sheet and Gust Cape *Cough*
Droop Hoop Videos *cough* fast fire ball *cough*
+Balbys23 *Cough* Fast Capsule *Cough*
what throw was marth using to set up those up b's?
Forward throw into up b.
Alright thanks.
Bahahaha, Samus definitely learnt how to do fatalities. FTW Samus...
Custom Blasters affect Fox/Falco's throws or is it just a cosmetic difference?
No they don't change
I believe one laser in particular does change Falco's throws. But only his.
The King of Kings I think he meant if they hit as fast as the normal blaster does...
Dr. G&W
Looks like you’re first, so you get a Crown: 👑
Is there a special spot where Marth's jab locks cause I can't get it to at like any percentage
It got patched months ago
+SmashN'Bash sad
+Zoramine Fae thanks
You're extremely good at jab-locking. How do you do it so well?
I love how you use the moves as resets
Please do more of Megamans moves! I unlocked all the moves on the 3ds last month and have now just been waiting see what people have come up with too!
Evo's gonna be hype
Imagine if custom moves were legal throughout the entire life of ssb4
I love the shadow man mega man move sooooo much
how did you get the ice move
Where is ness's pk freeze chain?
when you were using jigglypuff, how did you get so high in the air so fast to do the down b move? it didn't look like you jumped at all!
Joe Lipari thats the custom down b called leaping rest. it does a huge leap into the air really fast all on its own and has a decent attack for KOing (but clearly not as strong as normal rest)
TheRealCartererer however it is clearly easier to land
*edit*
what was that boomerang custom?
Diogo Silva,just a regular boomerang.
this guy is good at jab resets
If I could get my hands on all of Mario and Luigi's customs, I would make Fire Mario and Luigi customs before you could say "burrito"
7:10 why is the shot in his backthrow the same particle as his neutral b, that's actually really cool
Good stuff haha
0:36 is freaken brutal
I want to get into custom moves, anyone know the best way to get them?
cool Combs
Many Diddy Kong were harmed in the making of this video. YAAAAAAY!
Awsome
many of these only work when the opponent misstechs because majority of these combo's are more like jab locks which will only work when the opponent miss techs or not techs at all. if you tech at the moment diddy falls on the ground he will get immediately and the whole combo will break
god customs make teching even more important
I feel like those Ganondorf's specials should be Default
Rip, I was hoping to see a Shocking Spin from Link, that shit is OP.
Damn I knew the existence of the down throw to chain judge (less risky than judge) but i thought it only worked at low percent, i forgot it could work at high percent if you jump after the throw.
Awww only a few for my boy Marth
Sorry only had one custom for Marth, if I get a lot more customs I'll try my best to find some combos for Marth and a bunch of other characters.
marth get more combos with the dashing custom neutral b
Jey River how
TheChaosLp Marth isn't a very combo heavy character, he's more of a keep away and pressure character.
Matthew Cangelosi True
Falcos nutral b changes his grabs! o_0