Bidou Tech! (Smash Wii U)

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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    **IMPORTANT: You MUST turn "A+B Smash Attack" OFF in control settings**
    A tech/control scheme that makes frame perfect tricks a piece of cake, and much more!
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    ~ Time stamps and controller inputs ~
    Control set up: (0:21)
    (Special trigger must be held)
    Perfect Pivot: (1:49)
    Flick left stick forward - Right stick back
    Sliding Spot Dodge: (2:04)
    Flick left stick forward - Right stick back - Roll left stick down + Shield
    Crouching Perfect Pivot: (2:20)
    Flick left stick forward - Right stick back - Roll left stick down
    Dash attack out of Crouch/Crawl: (2:46)
    Crouch/Crawl - Right stick forward - Attack
    Spot Dodge out of Crouch/Crawl: (3:00)
    Crouch/Crawl - Right stick up + Shield
    Perfect Pivot Smash or Tilt: (3:15)
    Flick left stick forward - Right stick back - Roll left stick in a direction - Attack
    Quick Step: (3:34)
    Left stick forward - Left stick back - Right stick forward
    Edge Dash Attack: (3:55)
    Right stick forward - Attack
    Instant Wall Jump/Wall Cling: (4:11)
    Right stick back - Left stick forward - Jump - Attack
    Instant Ledge Trump: (4:37)
    (Running/walking)
    Left stick forward (run) - Right stick down + Left stick back
    (Standing)
    Left stick forward - Right stick down
    Instant Running from Walking: (4:59)
    Left stick tilt forward - Right stick up
    Instant Dodge Roll from Running/Walking: (5:17)
    Left stick forward (run/walk) - Right stick up + Shield
    Stutter Run: (5:28)
    Left stick forward (run) - Right stick up
    Slow Dash: (5:41)
    Right stick forward - Left stick tilt forward
    Instant Turnaround: (5:52)
    Right stick back
    Instant Turnaround D-tilt: (6:09)
    Left stick down (hold) - Attack (D-tilt) - Right stick back - Attack (D-tilt) - Right stick back - Repeat
    Reverse Aerial Rush: (6:27)
    Left stick forward - Right stick back - Jump - Attack
    Full Aerial Momentum Control: (6:55)
    Jump - Left stick forward/back - Attack - Right stick down (fast fall)
    Optimized Extended Dash Dance: (7:32)
    Right stick forward - Tap Left stick back - Right stick forward - Tap Left stick back - Repeat
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    Japanese Bidou Tech video:
    • スマブラ テクニック 微動術 Smash 4...
    Music by GlitchxCity:
    • Pokémon Diamond and Pe...

Комментарии • 4,4 тыс.

  • @IntroSpecktive
    @IntroSpecktive 8 лет назад +1325

    WE WAVE DASHING BOYS?

  • @SoulSymphonia
    @SoulSymphonia 8 лет назад +593

    This Bidoof tech is crazy.

  • @BEEEELEEEE
    @BEEEELEEEE 8 лет назад +1552

    *watches video*
    *looks down at hands*
    *slowly shakes head and backs away*

  • @akeptune
    @akeptune 8 лет назад +76

    This sounds like some sort of commercial.
    "With normal controls, you'd have to put your joystick to neutral position, which causes your character to stop before the running animation starts."
    "BUT WITH BIDOU, AFTER YOU TILT YOUR LEFT STICK TO WALK, YOU CAN *INSTANTLY* RUN BY HITTING YOUR RIGHT STICK UPWARDS!"
    I like it.

  • @cain5235
    @cain5235 8 лет назад +565

    Sm4sh: Come over to my house
    Melee: But you're slower paced
    Sm4sh: I have wavedashing
    Melee: ...I'm comming over

    • @SatisfactoryBro
      @SatisfactoryBro 8 лет назад +10

      OMFG YES.

    • @MrWiiWare
      @MrWiiWare 8 лет назад +9

      YES XD

    • @ZionSSBM
      @ZionSSBM 8 лет назад +4

      Lol

    • @stefanhuber8260
      @stefanhuber8260 8 лет назад +24

      This tech isn't even close to what wavedashing is in Melee.

    • @cain5235
      @cain5235 8 лет назад +62

      +Stefan Huber Come on dude. Why you gotta ruin the joke.

  • @AbjectPermanence
    @AbjectPermanence 8 лет назад +122

    At around 2:29, that perfect pivoting stuff looks almost like a wavedash haha

  • @realthinknoodlesjr745
    @realthinknoodlesjr745 8 лет назад +139

    *looks down at hands* I'm not ready for that sacrifice..

  • @Gnoggin
    @Gnoggin 8 лет назад +205

    1:32 that pikmin is wiggin out man!

    • @CenSilver
      @CenSilver 8 лет назад +1

      OMG ITS GNOGGIN
      HAIII GNOOGIIINNNN!!!!! \o/
      *Screams like a little fangirl*
      *Totally not following Gnoggin since months now and doesn't totally adore his vids*
      #NoticeMeSenpai

    • @WhereMyBedtimeStoryAt
      @WhereMyBedtimeStoryAt 8 лет назад

      +Achezuli Socitor wow

    • @CenSilver
      @CenSilver 8 лет назад

      suicide is badass
      Ikr

    • @tipsybun
      @tipsybun 8 лет назад +1

      Like one of those vibrating arm chairs...

    • @bobthemage2331
      @bobthemage2331 6 лет назад +1

      Hello Lockstin. I like your videos. That's it. Okay, bye.

  • @benjaminaguilera5166
    @benjaminaguilera5166 8 лет назад +164

    this almost sounded like a tv product comercial.

    • @kennesbg230
      @kennesbg230 6 лет назад

      Benjamin Aguilera i thought the same thing

    • @bossbulldog1134
      @bossbulldog1134 5 лет назад +2

      XD true: with bidou, you can do everything you always wanted to do.... Bidou, it will change your life

  • @superwaddledee367
    @superwaddledee367 8 лет назад +787

    Is it time for M2K’s hands to hurt again?

  • @Vektor480
    @Vektor480 8 лет назад +333

    This whole video sounded like an ad for a miraculous product called "Bidou".
    "Can't do this? Can't do that? WELL WITH BIDOU YOU CAN!"
    NOW JUST 9.99!

    • @mysmashcorner
      @mysmashcorner  8 лет назад +45

      +Vektor480 Did I sell you on it?

    • @saulmuratalla1183
      @saulmuratalla1183 8 лет назад

      +My Smash Corner 😂😂

    • @ganondorfbuster
      @ganondorfbuster 8 лет назад

      +Vektor480 now just fuck up your controls * ! i might try IF i find some will to do so

    • @Vektor480
      @Vektor480 8 лет назад +1

      My Smash Corner It depends. Does it come with an exclusive shakeweight? If so I'm sold.

    • @wrestler135var
      @wrestler135var 8 лет назад +1

      You too can win a tournament for just 5.99! #dlcbois

  • @DoUbLeH9
    @DoUbLeH9 3 года назад +33

    This tech was crazy when it was discovered. Had Ultimate not come out 2 years later, this would have definitely become meta. ESAM made the switch, hell I was beginning to practice Bidou.

    • @mahman1907
      @mahman1907 2 года назад

      You can still use it in ultimate

    • @honk1419
      @honk1419 2 года назад +2

      @@mahman1907
      obviously,
      you could do it in brawl as well if you wanna go by that
      but neither of those games can get uses out of it like 4 can

    • @mushymoist8813
      @mushymoist8813 Год назад +1

      I *did* make the switch
      im glad i can feel so comfortable with this control scheme, like it's not forcing me to play strangely, and i love the abilities it gives
      just makes a few techniques a bit harder but still a way i love to play (on characters that can benefit)

  • @teasquared1607
    @teasquared1607 8 лет назад +32

    2 things this video taught me
    1. I will never be able to use any of these skills the video showed me
    2. I will always be a freaking casual
    I cry everytim

  • @SpoRkManiac
    @SpoRkManiac 8 лет назад +168

    rest in peace, smash 4 skillcap

    • @henrymildenstein81
      @henrymildenstein81 7 лет назад +1

      Doesn't this reduce it as the techs are now eaiser?

    • @ultimaterecoil1136
      @ultimaterecoil1136 6 лет назад

      Henry Mildenstein yes there is no skillcap anymore hence the rip.

    • @IGamingStation
      @IGamingStation 6 лет назад +3

      for $49.99, you too can be a pro and perform pay2play tech with this pro controller, literally!!

  • @zerohcrows
    @zerohcrows 8 лет назад +380

    Or you can just pay 5.99 and win.

    • @PBCollects
      @PBCollects 8 лет назад +32

      Bayooooooneta

    • @CXLV101
      @CXLV101 8 лет назад +18

      +Smallfry fuck bayonetta

    • @LoneSpeedsterDX
      @LoneSpeedsterDX 8 лет назад +60

      +Ife Ade who WOULDN'T?

    • @babulbi
      @babulbi 8 лет назад +7

      cloud, the character with no losing MUs

    • @elim9054
      @elim9054 8 лет назад +44

      Or you can get good and adapt, but I guess bitching about DLC is easier.

  • @Xaddgx
    @Xaddgx 8 лет назад +69

    Let's see how much Wii U Pro Controller sales skyrocket.

    • @TheUnicornslayer
      @TheUnicornslayer 8 лет назад +1

      Just bought one hahah

    • @Xaddgx
      @Xaddgx 8 лет назад +2

      +cesar fresnillo I'm ordering one off of Amazon currently.

    • @TheUnicornslayer
      @TheUnicornslayer 8 лет назад

      +Xaddgx Absol Brasse I just hope they dont patch this out. In any case, i need this controller for pokken

    • @sonerec725
      @sonerec725 6 лет назад

      I mean, for smash, the pro controler is considered on par with the gamecube controler in terms of competitive usability, the pros and cons of each balance out so it's down to personal preference. (I prefer pro controler)

  • @T1J
    @T1J 8 лет назад +25

    as soon as someone masters this, this game will be changed forever

    • @ethanbadilla3858
      @ethanbadilla3858 3 года назад +8

      For real, unfortunately this game is now dead

    • @LilyBlue53
      @LilyBlue53 2 года назад +3

      lmao it never happened

  • @Shoyoumomo
    @Shoyoumomo 8 лет назад +27

    20XX is here
    we finally know how to wavedash in smash 4

  • @lukewenceslao8269
    @lukewenceslao8269 8 лет назад +140

    I seriously thought you were talking about the Pokemon when I saw Bidou

    • @BathoryDusk
      @BathoryDusk 8 лет назад

      LOL

    • @EnricosUtLP
      @EnricosUtLP 8 лет назад

      Me 2

    • @Magikarpador
      @Magikarpador 8 лет назад

      +Tristan Wenceslao Bidou isn't a Pokémon in English.

    • @lyoshi1022
      @lyoshi1022 8 лет назад +3

      +Magikarpador but is similar to Bidoof

    • @DekuDude
      @DekuDude 8 лет назад

      +LYoshi102 "doof" means "stupid" in german.

  • @MasterEnex
    @MasterEnex 8 лет назад +110

    SSB4 Developer: Mr.Sakurai... My Smash Corner make a video about Bidou... Codename BIDOOF
    Sakurai: Hmph... so... the time has come...
    SSB4 Developer: sir?
    Sakurai: Prepare patch 1.1.6 immediately!
    SSB4 Developer: Yes sir!

    • @electroqshun8731
      @electroqshun8731 8 лет назад +11

      It's not a glitch...

    • @ForwardTokage
      @ForwardTokage 8 лет назад +2

      +MasterEnex Just tell Sakurai to bring back wave dashing.

    • @DubstepDishwasher97
      @DubstepDishwasher97 8 лет назад +21

      +Cedric Jenkins Did I seriously just read that?

    • @somedudethatdoesthings8057
      @somedudethatdoesthings8057 8 лет назад +1

      It's going to be a patch where the 3DS can do Bidou.

    • @DubstepDishwasher97
      @DubstepDishwasher97 8 лет назад +6

      +Cedric Jenkins Ah, see I thought you were saying that devs were incapable of patching glitches, lol.
      But yeah, I doubt they'll be taking it out.

  • @AnesBkdm
    @AnesBkdm 8 лет назад +8

    Smash 4 is becoming so crazy.

    • @Scottfroge
      @Scottfroge 8 лет назад +3

      Lmao and the Melee community is trying to deny this tech cuz they don't want smash 4 to be kind of similar to it

    • @Gamma0_0
      @Gamma0_0 8 лет назад

      +Ninja6616
      Melee players are for this all the way. Look at the rest of the comments.

  • @RJ-s41ty
    @RJ-s41ty 8 лет назад +44

    Is that tape on your analog sticks/bumpers?
    Like tennis tape or?

    • @mysmashcorner
      @mysmashcorner  8 лет назад +33

      Regular tape, so you can see the buttons more clearly.

    • @7cross288
      @7cross288 8 лет назад +3

      Is it possible to do a turnaround quickstep? Like foxtrot and do a quick step move in the opposite direction?

    • @hueycotton
      @hueycotton 8 лет назад +5

      Not that I can imagine, however you can do a reverse perfect pivot immediately out of foxtrot which is pretty similar to what a reverse quickstep would be. It's really good for reading inward rolls, plus if they don't roll you can ftilt/turnaround jab at them directly out of the perfect pivot.

    • @mirorb.1593
      @mirorb.1593 8 лет назад +1

      +Huey P Ive seen you on smoothest smash 4 combos... so I'm guessing you are going to become the bidou messiah?

    • @hueycotton
      @hueycotton 8 лет назад +4

      +Miror B. Yep. lol I even recently completely removed face buttons from my gameplay. Now I only use the sticks, the triggers and the bumpers for maximum Bidou efficiency. I see insane potential in this tech and am willing to go as far as necessary to utilize it.
      P.S. I've been doing better in tourney bracket the last few times, only slightly though. Still, one step closer to Bidou mastery and world domination

  • @polomlg290
    @polomlg290 8 лет назад +203

    its honestly shocking how people just discover this stuff

    • @dragirby
      @dragirby 8 лет назад +8

      +Marco Marando I think its like Shakespeare and the monkey.
      Out of hundreds of thousands of players and dataminers, probability dictates that atleast one person will have access to some kind of social media and record a trick or phenomenon.
      Like in certain strategy games where you can get a secret item or character by having a specific character stand in a specific spot at a specific time. Atleast one person will have that happen to them.

    • @Fin0fLenster
      @Fin0fLenster 8 лет назад

      +Marco Marando There's a lot of similar shenanigans with control scheme stuff in the game so it's really a matter of learning how stuff works bit by bit and trying out each combination.

    • @DrGandW
      @DrGandW 8 лет назад +3

      And this is really relatively old too! It's crazy how fast they figured this out!

    • @cat8752
      @cat8752 8 лет назад +2

      +Marco Marando Japan lol

    • @7cross288
      @7cross288 8 лет назад +1

      +Cat8752 mah nigga from pokemon showdown its busken lol

  • @WinEntity
    @WinEntity 8 лет назад +11

    2:20 I died of laughter at this smiley little twerp sliding backward like nobody's business.

  • @HappiestSadGuy
    @HappiestSadGuy 8 лет назад +77

    SAKURAI: NOT AGAIN....

  • @OroborOSX11
    @OroborOSX11 8 лет назад +90

    Your videos are astoundingly professional. What do you use to edit them?

    • @mysmashcorner
      @mysmashcorner  8 лет назад +14

      +LucasTizma I use Adobe Premiere Pro.

    • @sumireneso5341
      @sumireneso5341 8 лет назад +23

      +My Smash Corner thank you for the vid on this bidoof technique

    • @woooooooooooop
      @woooooooooooop 8 лет назад

      +My Smash Corner how long did it take you to learn how to use Adobe to edit RUclips videos I'm going to try to learn how to use it next month for editing.

    • @mysmashcorner
      @mysmashcorner  8 лет назад +2

      +wooop Not too long for basic editing. Advanced things took longer. I've been using it for 4 years.

    • @woooooooooooop
      @woooooooooooop 8 лет назад

      +My Smash Corner most advanced thing would maybe be putting some silly picture animation with a video but mainly just pairing sounds and video together. noting too hard.

  • @lukew3370
    @lukew3370 8 лет назад +232

    Wavedash in Sm4sh confirmed

    • @erickloro3368
      @erickloro3368 8 лет назад +10

      Nah

    • @joshmaster1997
      @joshmaster1997 8 лет назад +3

      +Erick Loro Woosh

    • @deerpark5396
      @deerpark5396 8 лет назад +2

      Pivoting, where you can actually air dodge while doing it.

    • @kingcrowbro2486
      @kingcrowbro2486 8 лет назад +7

      +Luke W I always knew Daddy Sakurai wouldn't let us down.

    • @williamborough1576
      @williamborough1576 8 лет назад +4

      +JGamer king you think that this was intended? he made brawl to kill anything this technical from melee. now the game can just be updated to kill this techskill

  • @TheInfinityMaster1
    @TheInfinityMaster1 8 лет назад +679

    Can we call this the *Bidoof* Tech instead? lol

    • @TerastalJade
      @TerastalJade 8 лет назад +20

      Yes

    • @MasterEnex
      @MasterEnex 8 лет назад +18

      +Infinity Master I was thinking in the same thing xD

    • @TheTheThe_
      @TheTheThe_ 8 лет назад +5

      +Infinity Master Except this tech isn't useless and weak.

    • @theodoreniemann1897
      @theodoreniemann1897 8 лет назад +2

      That's what I thought it was at first

    • @TheInfinityMaster1
      @TheInfinityMaster1 8 лет назад +8

      AgroW Useless?! HOW DARE YOU INSULT *THE KING OF HM SLAVERY* IN POKEMON! SACRILEDGE!
      ...
      ...
      ...
      ...
      ...
      ...
      (Ok I don't know if what I said about Bidoof was a praise or an insult. lol :P)

  • @ninrellicon
    @ninrellicon 8 лет назад +462

    Sorry SMC, I can't use this Bidoof competitively if it's not Simple.

    • @tas562
      @tas562 8 лет назад +1

      Lol!!!

    • @merrick2792
      @merrick2792 8 лет назад +2

      Why is this not top comment?

    • @medevilwori4
      @medevilwori4 8 лет назад +3

      +Nerological
      This guy...
      Get this guy, outta this guy!

    • @AeonsOfFrost
      @AeonsOfFrost 8 лет назад +13

      +Nerological This is the best comment.

    • @xelic1996
      @xelic1996 8 лет назад +2

      +Nerological Plz when was Bidoof used as anything more than an HM slave or farmed for hp evs? ;) Kappa

  • @OHKO
    @OHKO 8 лет назад +14

    Its a shame that this technique is restricted to such an obscure control scheme... Amazing to see nevertheless :)

  • @turb0159
    @turb0159 8 лет назад +16

    Sakurai: "I'rr give you techs... AT THE COST OF YOUR CONTRORRER RAYOUT!"

    • @zombienator96
      @zombienator96 8 лет назад

      +Ronaldo Budhan (WolfManKid) he put tape so you can see the buttons

  • @fezpez2980
    @fezpez2980 8 лет назад

    Which character could gain the most from this? Marth's game is all about spacing, so those minimal movements could be critical.

  • @ToluDude
    @ToluDude 8 лет назад +359

    Will you press the button?
    You can do things frame perfect consistently
    BUT you must have the worst button layout ever.

  • @unibrownies5239
    @unibrownies5239 8 лет назад +93

    am I the only one not seeing myself do this from how complex it is?

    • @TaberIV
      @TaberIV 8 лет назад

      Nope

    • @vision4860
      @vision4860 8 лет назад

      I'm with you man.

    • @CallieSqueakz
      @CallieSqueakz 8 лет назад

      Napstablook: I'm not really feeling it.

    • @jinwithanx
      @jinwithanx 8 лет назад

      same here

    • @roshipower
      @roshipower 8 лет назад +2

      +Amar Zaghloul
      It also looks like its strenuous on your hands. Moreso than Melee

  • @spuhgetti
    @spuhgetti 8 лет назад +12

    Can this tech be used as an HM Slave?

  • @mirutee
    @mirutee 8 лет назад +67

    hahaha lool this video reminds me of the long tv ads "with bidou you can do much more and easier"

  • @HyperLuigi37
    @HyperLuigi37 8 лет назад +18

    So theoretically you could do all the trigger/bumper actions with the ABXY buttons (plus ZR for shield), correct? I see how it would be super useful to have them on the back buttons but if I was a claw master I could do it with ABXY, right?

    • @mysmashcorner
      @mysmashcorner  8 лет назад +20

      +HyperLuigi Yes, you technically could.

    • @HyperLuigi37
      @HyperLuigi37 8 лет назад +2

      My Smash Corner I'm totally trying it.

    • @MultiDragon129
      @MultiDragon129 8 лет назад +1

      +HyperLuigi Hey Mathew, what's goin on...it's been awhile =P

    • @HyperLuigi37
      @HyperLuigi37 8 лет назад

      MultiDragon129 Oh hey Nasir, Funny to see you here lol.

    • @MultiDragon129
      @MultiDragon129 8 лет назад

      HyperLuigi lol right? I wanted to join a smash tournament so i've been practicing my kirby. and Seeing this just makes me think the competitions only gonna get worse XD

  • @NitroHak
    @NitroHak 8 лет назад +24

    No one knew this is what Sakurai really wanted, he hid it deep inside the game and waited for people to discover it.

  • @paladinplays5886
    @paladinplays5886 8 лет назад +38

    This might be the tech to REALLY escalate competitive play. Which might put competitive Sm4sh into that scary to enter range.

    • @Blubberoxford
      @Blubberoxford 8 лет назад

      ^^

    • @DonkeyKing
      @DonkeyKing 8 лет назад

      +Paladin Plays Does Smash 4 tournaments even allow Wii Pro Controllers?

    • @paladinplays5886
      @paladinplays5886 8 лет назад

      +Shackkeel They are legal. just not the preferred controller like pads vs. sticks on more traditional fighters. Uncommon but still used.

    • @edwinvargas7969
      @edwinvargas7969 8 лет назад

      It already is at a scary to enter range lol

    • @paladinplays5886
      @paladinplays5886 8 лет назад

      +Edwin Vargas before I saw this not really. There were a few techs to learn that were useful, instant ledge grab, shield drop and some characters had a good fox trot, perfect pivot is useful. These took maybe an hour in the lab to learn and integrate. This changes controller, buttons, and the entire punish game woth things like slide spot dodge.

  • @axtonpino5213
    @axtonpino5213 Год назад +3

    (WIP)
    Not sure how many will see or need this, but here's why Bidou is entirely irrelevant in Ultimate:
    1. Ultimate's buffering mechanics eliminate the ability to hit a trigger for Specials while doing another move without activating said Special immediately afterwards.
    In simpler terms, you can't activate Bidou without using a Special Move first, removing the seamless activation process that Sm4sh (and Brawl?) had.
    2. Perfect Pivoting was completely removed from Ultimate, which is a massive blow to Bidou's usefulness right out of the gate. This also means no Crouching Perfect Pivot, Instant Smash/Tilt Perfect Pivot, Sliding Spotdodge, or Quick Step.
    3. Ultimate officially added the ability to dash instantly out of a Crouch, Crawl, or Running state. Ultimate doesn't force you to wait for a character to slow down after the stick returns to neutral. All of this makes Bidou pointless for dashing out of these character states.
    4. Instant Dash Attacks were properly implemented in Ultimate with the use of the C-Stick, so long as it's mapped to Tilt Attack. Once again, Bidou becomes useless for

  • @r00dll60
    @r00dll60 8 лет назад +10

    Bidou changes every single mechanic you have done in the past My Smash Corner

  • @IcypearBlogspot
    @IcypearBlogspot 8 лет назад +13

    this is the most craziest tech in smash 4 history

    • @slowcarboost4everzzz
      @slowcarboost4everzzz 8 лет назад

      Yes, it really is useful. especially the wall jump

    • @IcypearBlogspot
      @IcypearBlogspot 8 лет назад

      +Hero Smash yeah but not using it cause I wouldn't leave a gc controller for this tech

  • @oussama7132
    @oussama7132 8 лет назад +389

    1.1.6 update incoming

    • @MOCHiVonKarma
      @MOCHiVonKarma 8 лет назад +5

      Kappa

    • @GarketMardener
      @GarketMardener 8 лет назад +9

      +oussama mrissa PLEASE NO

    • @FusionComet
      @FusionComet 8 лет назад +75

      MY REPLAYS

    • @andregon4366
      @andregon4366 8 лет назад +5

      +oussama mrissa Hopefully to turn this thing into a game mode, where you don't have to constantly to push the R button.

    • @GarketMardener
      @GarketMardener 8 лет назад

      Andre Gon lol

  • @GrimoeGaming
    @GrimoeGaming 8 лет назад

    So what techs are the GameCube controller constrained to?

  • @MeesterTweester
    @MeesterTweester 8 лет назад +15

    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Intro
    0:18 Controls
    0:43 Choice of controller
    0:57 Holding Special Attack (mandatory)
    1:12 Right Stick is now a directional input
    1:49 Perfect Pivoting
    2:04 Sliding Spot Dodge
    2:20 Crouching Perfect Pivot
    2:36 Crouching Perfect Pivot into Platform Drop
    2:46 Instant Crawling Dash Attack
    3:00 Instant Crawling Spot Dodge
    3:15 Doing both tilts and smash attacks out of a Perfect Pivot
    3:35 Quick Step
    3:56 Spamming Dash Attack on Ledge
    4:11 Instant Wall Jump/Cling
    4:32 Instant Wall Jump/Cling into edgeguarding
    4:37 Instant Ledge Trump
    4:59 Instant Run out of Walk
    5:17 Instant Run out of Run/Walk/Crawl
    5:29 Stutter Running
    5:42 Slow Run
    5:52 Standing Turnaround
    6:05 Instant Standing Turnaround out of Perfect Pivot
    6:10 Instant Turnaround D-tilt
    6:27 Reverse Aerial Rush (and into Bair)
    6:46 Wavebouncing substitute (Reverse Aerial Rush into B-reverse)
    6:55 Full Aerial Momentum Control
    7:32 Optimized Extended Dash Dance
    7:59 Outro
    8:17 Links

    • @Vecderg
      @Vecderg 8 лет назад

      didn't he already put that in the description?

    • @sm4shbruhz533
      @sm4shbruhz533 8 лет назад

      Someone has a little too much free time

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester 8 лет назад

      +Pixel Not originally.

    • @Vecderg
      @Vecderg 8 лет назад

      kk

  • @perplexingpantheon
    @perplexingpantheon 7 лет назад +3

    Tech feels so much nicer to use than the traditional way; thank you for your explanation.

  • @user-pg2yy5pv6m
    @user-pg2yy5pv6m 8 лет назад +7

    Nintendo releases Smash Deluxe Edition for the NX, which uses a controller with 27 buttons. This game includes all smash characters across all titles. The 27 button 'elite' controller allows pro players to realize their full potential. Tourneys are now TAS melee Foxes, Brawl Meta Knights, and frame perfect Bidou Bayonetta's. The tech skill is so insane that nobody ever gets hit. Matches always time out and our now decided by who can survive the bombs long enough. The winner is now determined by finger endurance where the first person to tire out wins. Top level players are hand fed by assistant players for days waiting for match results. EVO is now a 100 man bracket but is a year long event regardless.
    20QQ is upon us.... MangoW

  • @eggme710
    @eggme710 8 лет назад +2

    Wow, this looks really impressive on paper. Learning a new control scheme, though, feels like you'd almost be starting from scratch!

  • @Nintendome
    @Nintendome 8 лет назад +192

    Are you going to make Pokken videos bruh?

    • @IcypearBlogspot
      @IcypearBlogspot 8 лет назад +28

      don't

    • @mysmashcorner
      @mysmashcorner  8 лет назад +138

      +Nintendome Probably.

    • @aegiken4832
      @aegiken4832 8 лет назад +22

      +My Smash Corner So... My Pokken Corner?

    • @gcscv1423
      @gcscv1423 8 лет назад

      +My Smash Corner Is this tech worth it? you can't do double sticking with it

    • @mewwishtimer7285
      @mewwishtimer7285 8 лет назад

      Sup, Nintendome : )

  • @Izandaia
    @Izandaia 8 лет назад +14

    You forgot to talk about the limitations with the Gamecube Controller.
    Also, is there anything that you can't do, or that becomes harder, while in Bidou?

    • @LilyMaplePup
      @LilyMaplePup 8 лет назад +1

      no c-stick aerials

    • @Izandaia
      @Izandaia 8 лет назад

      +TheClamFace Can you do something similar by flicking the second stick in a direction and hitting attack?

    • @Yaksha10
      @Yaksha10 8 лет назад

      +Izandai I thought it was made clear since it lacks a fourth shoulder button?

    • @Izandaia
      @Izandaia 8 лет назад

      +jjg3096 Yes, but he didn't say what that keeps you from doing. I would presume anything that requires you to hit all the shoulder buttons, but everything they're mapped to is duplicated on the face buttons, so I'm confused as to what the limitations actually are.

  • @winchellfactor
    @winchellfactor 8 лет назад +8

    My Smash Corner just DESTROYING the SM4SH meta once again

  • @Niceguyhidden
    @Niceguyhidden 8 лет назад

    How is quickstep any different from Perfect Pivoting? Does it have any uses that would make quickstepping BETTER than PP under certain circumstances?

  • @ole5079
    @ole5079 8 лет назад +33

    you coudlve just called the video WAVEDASH IN SM4SH

  • @disappointedfather9394
    @disappointedfather9394 8 лет назад +66

    I'm trying to learn this. My brain is burning and it's frustrating. Undoing years of muscle memory and trying to remember what button to hit now is so hard. My right thumb used to move so much around the controller, now it's supposed to sit on an analog while my shield finger attacks and jumps? :l
    I switched the controls around. So hard to remember on the spot where everything it. My thumb just moves down to the other buttons without me noticing lol. Gonna be learning this until I'm comfortable with it before trying any techniques

    • @teaberry369
      @teaberry369 8 лет назад +5

      at least youll be able to body your friends easily

    • @red.4712
      @red.4712 7 лет назад +7

      I doubt it's gonna die for a while.

    • @Spearra
      @Spearra 7 лет назад +5

      People said the same about Brawl. Every Smash game tends to live forever.

    • @Motofreakz
      @Motofreakz 7 лет назад +4

      but brawl didn't live forever...

    • @neph312
      @neph312 7 лет назад +9

      Yes it did, people still play it.

  • @trisfairy
    @trisfairy 8 лет назад +12

    YOUR GENIUS! YOU WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE UPDATE! NOW IT WONT BE PATCHED!
    Unless sakurai does sakurai, of course.

    • @themeowboss9972
      @themeowboss9972 8 лет назад +1

      +Tristan Yun What about his genius?

    • @onlyicedgarrett7791
      @onlyicedgarrett7791 8 лет назад

      +Bill Roger It hasn't exploded. But trust me if America does one thing a lot, it is do wild things first and give a damn about consequences later.

  • @oscaranibalhernandez8590
    @oscaranibalhernandez8590 8 лет назад

    How do you z-drop turnips with Peach or blades with Megaman with this Button Configuration??? Sorry if it is a noob question but I'm barely learning how to play properly.

  • @juniorr.1553
    @juniorr.1553 8 лет назад +9

    Welcome to Super Smash Bros. Melee 2.0

    • @emmdouge1
      @emmdouge1 8 лет назад +1

      smash 4 is popular bc it doesn't need tech. that's why it has an overwhelmingly casual fanbase. if ppl wanted to play a tech intensive game, they might as well play melee. in fact, I'm more confident that if this tech does get popularized, it'll attract more ppl to melee once they've experienced what it means to truly have control over your character.

  • @wistitipnf404
    @wistitipnf404 8 лет назад +14

    Why does this new technique scares me so much? O-O

  • @SinisterPixel
    @SinisterPixel 8 лет назад +16

    THEY LAUGHED AT ME FOR PREFERRING THE PRO CONTROLLER

    • @Kuebel350
      @Kuebel350 8 лет назад

      Please. 3DS as a controller for the Wii U version is way better :p

  • @theboi553
    @theboi553 8 лет назад

    Is having jump on one of the shoulder buttons/bumpers really necessary? It wasn't mentioned here. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Can you still use Bidou if it's set to grab instead?

  • @prestonlewis8186
    @prestonlewis8186 8 лет назад +157

    Great now I can wavedash

    • @spaceplex5079
      @spaceplex5079 8 лет назад +1

      Exactly

    • @ermiku_
      @ermiku_ 8 лет назад +3

      no you can't... this is not melee so you can't wavedash

    • @destinwilliamson9805
      @destinwilliamson9805 8 лет назад +2

      +Preston Lewis When I seen Fox I was like "Oh NOOO! We must prevent 20XX NOOOW! Burn all the Pro Controllers!!!"

    • @burliersummer1358
      @burliersummer1358 8 лет назад

      +Ayy ermiku it can have pretty similar uses

    • @SkaillerLPE
      @SkaillerLPE 8 лет назад +6

      +Ayy ermiku Congrats, you missed the joke.

  • @trixietruelove2274
    @trixietruelove2274 8 лет назад +55

    Watch me learn this and then it gets patched.

    • @trixietruelove2274
      @trixietruelove2274 8 лет назад +5

      +Cedric Jenkins I wasn't being serious haha. I was poking fun at my bad luck.

    • @93BossRoss
      @93BossRoss 8 лет назад +11

      +Cedric Jenkins That doesn't mean anything. They patch damage outputs and knockback all the time. Those aren't glitches.

    • @weismanwriter9426
      @weismanwriter9426 8 лет назад

      +Trixie Truelove Hi Tris-

    • @trixietruelove2274
      @trixietruelove2274 8 лет назад

      +Officially Not SBlash Tris?

    • @weismanwriter9426
      @weismanwriter9426 8 лет назад

      +Trixie Truelove Oh wait nvm, I thought you were my friend Trisha lol. My b

  • @joseg8898
    @joseg8898 8 лет назад +6

    Melee HD looks really good

  • @MrPhilderande1
    @MrPhilderande1 8 лет назад +6

    Do you think it's work well with PDP controller ? same as a gamecube but with a better C stick and 4 button in back.

    • @mysmashcorner
      @mysmashcorner  8 лет назад +1

      +MrPhilderande1 Should be fine.

    • @fortunegaming1583
      @fortunegaming1583 8 лет назад

      I have the Hori one and it works on it.

    • @7cross288
      @7cross288 8 лет назад

      Since they both can be used out of a foxtrot would quick step jab be faster than perfect pivot jab?

  • @desp119
    @desp119 8 лет назад +5

    The year is 20BB
    The Five Melee Gods are playing Smash 4 competitively.
    Melee is completely forgotten.

  • @etaquince5220
    @etaquince5220 8 лет назад +55

    Im too lazy to learn that, my fingers are too stoppid to use that

  • @dfgsfhghgsf
    @dfgsfhghgsf 8 лет назад +17

    Holy shit, Jesus fucking Christ we actually melee

  • @strifespikes9274
    @strifespikes9274 8 лет назад

    How do you get your (cropped) Smash 4 models (the ones you put on your thumbnails).

  • @jessedobson1009
    @jessedobson1009 8 лет назад +18

    Cool. More things that only 4% of us can do.

  • @benjoleo
    @benjoleo 8 лет назад +6

    I love this so much, I swear, if it gets patched out I will find sakurai and make him eat that stupid marth amiibo with the broken sword that I got.

  • @Realist1Officiel
    @Realist1Officiel 8 лет назад +3

    do you think the mastering of this bidou gameplay enables you to just have better performance and play on a superior level (like tournament fighters) or its just an alternate way of playing in your opinion?

    • @mysmashcorner
      @mysmashcorner  8 лет назад +14

      It definitely enables better/more optimal performance. But to see the results, the bidou controls scheme must become second nature to you, which will take a large amount of dedication, time and practice. This probably means giving up your regular control scheme you're used to, which is why many are hesitant to make the switch.

    • @ignificus
      @ignificus 8 лет назад

      +My Smash Corner I saw this and was so happy, cu z the N3DS has essentially a c stick... But it isn't customizable...

    • @IamJecht
      @IamJecht 8 лет назад +4

      i am siwtching, everything you said about this set up has shown to be way more efficient and effective than any other controller scheme, bidou will change controller meta hard, and in this might actually be a buff to some lower tier characters.

    • @GNashG
      @GNashG 8 лет назад

      what do you have on your controller?

    • @IamJecht
      @IamJecht 8 лет назад

      ***** put B to attack, A to attack or grab, x to grab y to jump, R and Z shield everything else is the same

  • @pompeocavaliere1962
    @pompeocavaliere1962 8 лет назад

    ok, A+B smash attack is off, but while holding down ZL the special move will re-activate occasionally. any tips/suggestions?

  • @Flaminginferno1
    @Flaminginferno1 8 лет назад +6

    Yooooo! My Pro Controller has some "exclusive" tech for once!

  • @devc.4322
    @devc.4322 8 лет назад +10

    *Goes to FG*
    *Sees a Fox main rapidly pressing B while doing random things*
    Facepalm

  • @deuel9712
    @deuel9712 8 лет назад +145

    Melee HD is now a reality.
    (inb4 melee fanboys)

    • @thebigdug
      @thebigdug 8 лет назад +21

      I main Pichu.

    • @WinEntity
      @WinEntity 8 лет назад +21

      #BringBackIceClimbers

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 8 лет назад +9

      +Aythience 20XX is melee HD
      smash 4 is sm4sh

    • @kennethzheng3735
      @kennethzheng3735 8 лет назад +1

      Yep, this button layout will break your fingers faster than how Melee did it to Mew2King

    • @stopbeingjewish8924
      @stopbeingjewish8924 7 лет назад

      I main young link

  • @DJack276
    @DJack276 8 лет назад +1

    After the movie Despicable Me 2, I thought I would never want to ear the noise "Bidou" again, but now this sounds interesting.

  • @boltstrike644
    @boltstrike644 8 лет назад +3

    is the lagless ledge get up any easier?

    • @stephendesautels3301
      @stephendesautels3301 8 лет назад

      +Axel Guevara I did try it, and it is indeed slightly easier. Still hard though.

  • @notfairPho
    @notfairPho 5 лет назад +3

    Ever wanted to use bidou on a new 3ds system with a c stick. Here's a way to do it. Set your 2 shoulder buttons to attack and special. Have a+b smash attacks on and then hold attack and special on your shoulder buttons. This can be through an air dodge or an attack or recovery ect. While holding both attack and special on the shoulder buttons, use the c stick to the left or right and it will be a direction and not an attack. This is bidou not attack bidou. Bidou tech like perfect pivots and crouching perfect pivots are possible but attacking out of a perfect pivot is more difficult because if you use the attack shoulder with special still held then you will charge a smash. You will have to release special in order to attack, turning off bidou. All bidou tech not involving attacks will be possible. I literally just found this, I don't know the limitations of 3ds bidou but hey you now have the option. The reason that you need a+b smash on is because the c stick is for smash attacks and like how for bidou you need to cancel the special move by having special held and for attack bidou to work you need tilts to be canceled by having attack held. Since there is no smash attack button, a+b smash can basically be a smash attack button to cancel smashes from the smash stick.

  • @FusionComet
    @FusionComet 8 лет назад +8

    HOLY SHIT THIS GAME JUST GOT REALLY FUCKIN TECHNICAL

    • @Erokingu
      @Erokingu 8 лет назад

      +FusionComet In 5 years, this game remplace Melee

  • @jhonatansilva3057
    @jhonatansilva3057 8 лет назад

    a question: is required to use both analog?
    or can I just use the left analog stick and just hold the button?

  • @NotMike95
    @NotMike95 8 лет назад +6

    But... Why? All those button changes is too much for me. I'm just used to turning off tap jump, and i'm set.

    • @hawkraider3
      @hawkraider3 8 лет назад

      +NotMike95 Then dont use it

    • @NotMike95
      @NotMike95 8 лет назад +1

      +T3HK001GUY Already taken care of, thanks ;)

    • @hawkraider3
      @hawkraider3 8 лет назад

      your welcome ;)

    • @hawkraider3
      @hawkraider3 8 лет назад

      I probably sounded like a rude bastard didn't I ._.
      sry

    • @NotMike95
      @NotMike95 8 лет назад

      +T3HK001GUY It's cool.

  • @extremekiwi101
    @extremekiwi101 8 лет назад +6

    THE META IS EVOLVING

  • @hahahalala-i1x
    @hahahalala-i1x 8 лет назад +10

    Me: Looks at control scheme*
    Me: Looks at gamecube controller*
    Me: nah

    • @psFACKfanboi
      @psFACKfanboi 8 лет назад +1

      +JandSand 20XX, gotta git with da program brutha

  • @brycelindsay926
    @brycelindsay926 8 лет назад

    I was messing around with special moves mapped to the c stick, and realized that by jumping and hitting the c stick in the direction oposite that your character is moving, it reverses your momentum (this is best used with characters like mario or marth). is this like a simplified wave bounce, or a completely different tech?

  • @alfanauta
    @alfanauta 8 лет назад +325

    well melee looks to slow after this

    • @TeknoorSTM
      @TeknoorSTM 8 лет назад +91

      +alfanauta No. Not even close

    • @EddieSpaghetti555
      @EddieSpaghetti555 8 лет назад +65

      +alfanauta No it doesn't.

    • @NoWaifuNoLaifu
      @NoWaifuNoLaifu 8 лет назад +3

      wtf

    • @zacharyo.844
      @zacharyo.844 8 лет назад +92

      +alfanauta Well, at least I got that it was a joke.

    • @Nat988
      @Nat988 8 лет назад +41

      I love it when people especially melee fans takes the bait *FailFish

  • @taurusshelton448
    @taurusshelton448 8 лет назад +3

    So you guys figured out how to wavedash. good job

    • @nickstory7738
      @nickstory7738 7 лет назад

      They can't complain about melee being "broken" now otherwise they are saying sm4sh is "broken".

  • @danwrizzo
    @danwrizzo 8 лет назад +4

    *Sees a pro controller*
    "Goddammit Sakurai"

  • @pikachuukiller3469
    @pikachuukiller3469 8 лет назад

    It's very hard to bidou perfect pivot and the sliding thing

  • @rockyarchives8861
    @rockyarchives8861 8 лет назад +48

    inb4 wavedash comments

    • @aegiken4832
      @aegiken4832 8 лет назад +17

      Nope, you were too late, the wave dash comments have already arrived

    • @rockyarchives8861
      @rockyarchives8861 8 лет назад +19

      fuck

    • @smashbrolink
      @smashbrolink 8 лет назад

      +8:14PMstudios I think we need someone to do a professional examination of just how close it is to WDing.

    • @rockyarchives8861
      @rockyarchives8861 8 лет назад

      smashbrolink​ Maybe ZeRo, M2K, or any of the other best Melee or Smash 4 players out there?

    • @smashbrolink
      @smashbrolink 8 лет назад

      8:14PMstudios
      Have any of them practiced it?
      This doesn't seem to be a very wide-spread thing yet.
      Heck, this video only came out today; we're not even sure if any of the top Melee or Smash 4 players use it regularly yet.
      It'd be interesting to see how their Smash 4 play evolves after mastering it, though.
      This tech encompasses so many other smaller tech possibilities, like perfect frame movements, dash attacks out of crawls, faster ledge punishes, pseudo wave-dashing etc etc, that it could literally become THE defining feature between competitive and non-competitive Smash players.
      I could see tournaments quickly becoming filled with Bidou tech jargon from the announcers commentating the matches.

  • @ewon9903
    @ewon9903 8 лет назад +4

    This video sounds like an infomercial about a product called bido.

  • @2supermaro
    @2supermaro 8 лет назад +4

    Why does this sound like some advertisement? "...But with bidou!..." 😂😂

  • @lachlanplache7148
    @lachlanplache7148 7 лет назад

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you claw with a GameCube controller, wouldn't that solve the problem with the lack of buttons?

  • @swiglsmash4230
    @swiglsmash4230 8 лет назад +4

    WITH THIS TECH SONIC CAN ROLL STRAIGHT OUT OF A RUN. WHAT THE FFUUUUUUUUUUUUCKCKCJVJVVKVJVJVJC

  • @scottroth26
    @scottroth26 8 лет назад +7

    taking sm4sh to the next level

    • @scottroth26
      @scottroth26 8 лет назад +1

      if someone masters this it will be crazy

    • @enderaceofspades8579
      @enderaceofspades8579 8 лет назад

      +scott roth that master will most definitely be ZeRo.

  • @thatredeyesguy
    @thatredeyesguy 8 лет назад +15

    The year is 22XX, everyone uses a pro controller...

    • @Zalorel4112
      @Zalorel4112 8 лет назад

      Lol underrated comment

    • @theboi553
      @theboi553 8 лет назад

      This comment is the greatest thing ever.

  • @MCGChile
    @MCGChile 8 лет назад

    CanI have some Help please? I want to do infinite dash dance like 4:56 like C Falcon does at the mark. What exactly I have to do?

  • @TaberIV
    @TaberIV 8 лет назад +10

    I'm so scared of what competitive Smash 4 will become now. Basically Melee haha

    • @3dz3dz
      @3dz3dz 8 лет назад

      +Taber McFarlin This game just got a whole lot faster (⌐■_■)

    • @mewwishtimer7285
      @mewwishtimer7285 8 лет назад

      But a bit slower

    • @LRy314
      @LRy314 8 лет назад

      +Taber McFarlin Thats what i was thinking! This one tech can potentially transform the game like melee did back when this kind of stuff was discovered then.

    • @TaberIV
      @TaberIV 8 лет назад

      +Ryanime I wonder if Sakuri had any idea this was possible

  • @Metaknight180
    @Metaknight180 8 лет назад +5

    The video says WiiU and 3DS, but I can't see this working on a 3DS.

  • @PanelTouch
    @PanelTouch 8 лет назад +8

    So I was playing around with this yesterday while playing Roy. While wildly attempt to find some new stuff I was able to make Roy do a sliding neutral B twice. I have no idea how I accomplished this and if anyone would help me figure it out I would be extremely grateful.

    • @Badminstep
      @Badminstep 8 лет назад

      I swear i managed to do a sliding up b with fox, like it slided while starting up but I don't have a clue how that happened. Maybe it was all in my head after having spent hours trying to learn all these new techniques...

    • @PanelTouch
      @PanelTouch 8 лет назад

      +Badminstep I do believe it's possible but I think it was a really random input that I made that I cannot seem to replicate.

    • @edwinvargas7969
      @edwinvargas7969 6 лет назад

      There’s a video called pivot sliding with roy as a thumbnail that talks about a tech very similar to what you’re saying

  • @SamOliver4
    @SamOliver4 8 лет назад

    Could this help with lagless ledge getups? That (and stuff like A-landing) are the only notable frame-specific techs I can think of that aren't obviously covered here.