Bidou Tech! (Smash Wii U)
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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A tech/control scheme that makes frame perfect tricks a piece of cake, and much more!
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~ Time stamps and controller inputs ~
Control set up: (0:21)
(Special trigger must be held)
Perfect Pivot: (1:49)
Flick left stick forward - Right stick back
Sliding Spot Dodge: (2:04)
Flick left stick forward - Right stick back - Roll left stick down + Shield
Crouching Perfect Pivot: (2:20)
Flick left stick forward - Right stick back - Roll left stick down
Dash attack out of Crouch/Crawl: (2:46)
Crouch/Crawl - Right stick forward - Attack
Spot Dodge out of Crouch/Crawl: (3:00)
Crouch/Crawl - Right stick up + Shield
Perfect Pivot Smash or Tilt: (3:15)
Flick left stick forward - Right stick back - Roll left stick in a direction - Attack
Quick Step: (3:34)
Left stick forward - Left stick back - Right stick forward
Edge Dash Attack: (3:55)
Right stick forward - Attack
Instant Wall Jump/Wall Cling: (4:11)
Right stick back - Left stick forward - Jump - Attack
Instant Ledge Trump: (4:37)
(Running/walking)
Left stick forward (run) - Right stick down + Left stick back
(Standing)
Left stick forward - Right stick down
Instant Running from Walking: (4:59)
Left stick tilt forward - Right stick up
Instant Dodge Roll from Running/Walking: (5:17)
Left stick forward (run/walk) - Right stick up + Shield
Stutter Run: (5:28)
Left stick forward (run) - Right stick up
Slow Dash: (5:41)
Right stick forward - Left stick tilt forward
Instant Turnaround: (5:52)
Right stick back
Instant Turnaround D-tilt: (6:09)
Left stick down (hold) - Attack (D-tilt) - Right stick back - Attack (D-tilt) - Right stick back - Repeat
Reverse Aerial Rush: (6:27)
Left stick forward - Right stick back - Jump - Attack
Full Aerial Momentum Control: (6:55)
Jump - Left stick forward/back - Attack - Right stick down (fast fall)
Optimized Extended Dash Dance: (7:32)
Right stick forward - Tap Left stick back - Right stick forward - Tap Left stick back - Repeat
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Japanese Bidou Tech video:
• スマブラ テクニック 微動術 Smash 4...
Music by GlitchxCity:
• Pokémon Diamond and Pe...
WE WAVE DASHING BOYS?
Well you aren't gonna. :)
daddy
+IntroSpecktive HYESS
We wave dashin.
No stahp plz
This Bidoof tech is crazy.
😂😂
Bidoog top tier
BIDOOF FOR UBER TIER
+Tasfique only if you can master that button configuration
+UTSU BIDOOF GOIN STRAIGHT TO AG
*watches video*
*looks down at hands*
*slowly shakes head and backs away*
basically
This is the best
Yup
Wait why?
I don't get it?
This sounds like some sort of commercial.
"With normal controls, you'd have to put your joystick to neutral position, which causes your character to stop before the running animation starts."
"BUT WITH BIDOU, AFTER YOU TILT YOUR LEFT STICK TO WALK, YOU CAN *INSTANTLY* RUN BY HITTING YOUR RIGHT STICK UPWARDS!"
I like it.
Sm4sh: Come over to my house
Melee: But you're slower paced
Sm4sh: I have wavedashing
Melee: ...I'm comming over
OMFG YES.
YES XD
Lol
This tech isn't even close to what wavedashing is in Melee.
+Stefan Huber Come on dude. Why you gotta ruin the joke.
At around 2:29, that perfect pivoting stuff looks almost like a wavedash haha
Orly
+Abject Permanence Wavecheat*
i dont know how to tech skill and my opponent does so i think he's cheating*
Just add Fox's "AH-TAH" when he does it lol.
+Christian Opulencia lol
*looks down at hands* I'm not ready for that sacrifice..
1:32 that pikmin is wiggin out man!
OMG ITS GNOGGIN
HAIII GNOOGIIINNNN!!!!! \o/
*Screams like a little fangirl*
*Totally not following Gnoggin since months now and doesn't totally adore his vids*
#NoticeMeSenpai
+Achezuli Socitor wow
suicide is badass
Ikr
Like one of those vibrating arm chairs...
Hello Lockstin. I like your videos. That's it. Okay, bye.
this almost sounded like a tv product comercial.
Benjamin Aguilera i thought the same thing
XD true: with bidou, you can do everything you always wanted to do.... Bidou, it will change your life
Is it time for M2K’s hands to hurt again?
lmao
Mew2King, this'll hurt
Lol
+VGBlazeboy3 "GO TO A DOCTER"
MVG COG LOL | Mew2king
This whole video sounded like an ad for a miraculous product called "Bidou".
"Can't do this? Can't do that? WELL WITH BIDOU YOU CAN!"
NOW JUST 9.99!
+Vektor480 Did I sell you on it?
+My Smash Corner 😂😂
+Vektor480 now just fuck up your controls * ! i might try IF i find some will to do so
My Smash Corner It depends. Does it come with an exclusive shakeweight? If so I'm sold.
You too can win a tournament for just 5.99! #dlcbois
This tech was crazy when it was discovered. Had Ultimate not come out 2 years later, this would have definitely become meta. ESAM made the switch, hell I was beginning to practice Bidou.
You can still use it in ultimate
@@mahman1907
obviously,
you could do it in brawl as well if you wanna go by that
but neither of those games can get uses out of it like 4 can
I *did* make the switch
im glad i can feel so comfortable with this control scheme, like it's not forcing me to play strangely, and i love the abilities it gives
just makes a few techniques a bit harder but still a way i love to play (on characters that can benefit)
2 things this video taught me
1. I will never be able to use any of these skills the video showed me
2. I will always be a freaking casual
I cry everytim
rest in peace, smash 4 skillcap
Doesn't this reduce it as the techs are now eaiser?
Henry Mildenstein yes there is no skillcap anymore hence the rip.
for $49.99, you too can be a pro and perform pay2play tech with this pro controller, literally!!
Or you can just pay 5.99 and win.
Bayooooooneta
+Smallfry fuck bayonetta
+Ife Ade who WOULDN'T?
cloud, the character with no losing MUs
Or you can get good and adapt, but I guess bitching about DLC is easier.
Let's see how much Wii U Pro Controller sales skyrocket.
Just bought one hahah
+cesar fresnillo I'm ordering one off of Amazon currently.
+Xaddgx Absol Brasse I just hope they dont patch this out. In any case, i need this controller for pokken
I mean, for smash, the pro controler is considered on par with the gamecube controler in terms of competitive usability, the pros and cons of each balance out so it's down to personal preference. (I prefer pro controler)
as soon as someone masters this, this game will be changed forever
For real, unfortunately this game is now dead
lmao it never happened
20XX is here
we finally know how to wavedash in smash 4
I seriously thought you were talking about the Pokemon when I saw Bidou
LOL
Me 2
+Tristan Wenceslao Bidou isn't a Pokémon in English.
+Magikarpador but is similar to Bidoof
+LYoshi102 "doof" means "stupid" in german.
SSB4 Developer: Mr.Sakurai... My Smash Corner make a video about Bidou... Codename BIDOOF
Sakurai: Hmph... so... the time has come...
SSB4 Developer: sir?
Sakurai: Prepare patch 1.1.6 immediately!
SSB4 Developer: Yes sir!
It's not a glitch...
+MasterEnex Just tell Sakurai to bring back wave dashing.
+Cedric Jenkins Did I seriously just read that?
It's going to be a patch where the 3DS can do Bidou.
+Cedric Jenkins Ah, see I thought you were saying that devs were incapable of patching glitches, lol.
But yeah, I doubt they'll be taking it out.
Smash 4 is becoming so crazy.
Lmao and the Melee community is trying to deny this tech cuz they don't want smash 4 to be kind of similar to it
+Ninja6616
Melee players are for this all the way. Look at the rest of the comments.
Is that tape on your analog sticks/bumpers?
Like tennis tape or?
Regular tape, so you can see the buttons more clearly.
Is it possible to do a turnaround quickstep? Like foxtrot and do a quick step move in the opposite direction?
Not that I can imagine, however you can do a reverse perfect pivot immediately out of foxtrot which is pretty similar to what a reverse quickstep would be. It's really good for reading inward rolls, plus if they don't roll you can ftilt/turnaround jab at them directly out of the perfect pivot.
+Huey P Ive seen you on smoothest smash 4 combos... so I'm guessing you are going to become the bidou messiah?
+Miror B. Yep. lol I even recently completely removed face buttons from my gameplay. Now I only use the sticks, the triggers and the bumpers for maximum Bidou efficiency. I see insane potential in this tech and am willing to go as far as necessary to utilize it.
P.S. I've been doing better in tourney bracket the last few times, only slightly though. Still, one step closer to Bidou mastery and world domination
its honestly shocking how people just discover this stuff
+Marco Marando I think its like Shakespeare and the monkey.
Out of hundreds of thousands of players and dataminers, probability dictates that atleast one person will have access to some kind of social media and record a trick or phenomenon.
Like in certain strategy games where you can get a secret item or character by having a specific character stand in a specific spot at a specific time. Atleast one person will have that happen to them.
+Marco Marando There's a lot of similar shenanigans with control scheme stuff in the game so it's really a matter of learning how stuff works bit by bit and trying out each combination.
And this is really relatively old too! It's crazy how fast they figured this out!
+Marco Marando Japan lol
+Cat8752 mah nigga from pokemon showdown its busken lol
2:20 I died of laughter at this smiley little twerp sliding backward like nobody's business.
SAKURAI: NOT AGAIN....
NO THEY FOUND THE TECH.
Your videos are astoundingly professional. What do you use to edit them?
+LucasTizma I use Adobe Premiere Pro.
+My Smash Corner thank you for the vid on this bidoof technique
+My Smash Corner how long did it take you to learn how to use Adobe to edit RUclips videos I'm going to try to learn how to use it next month for editing.
+wooop Not too long for basic editing. Advanced things took longer. I've been using it for 4 years.
+My Smash Corner most advanced thing would maybe be putting some silly picture animation with a video but mainly just pairing sounds and video together. noting too hard.
Wavedash in Sm4sh confirmed
Nah
+Erick Loro Woosh
Pivoting, where you can actually air dodge while doing it.
+Luke W I always knew Daddy Sakurai wouldn't let us down.
+JGamer king you think that this was intended? he made brawl to kill anything this technical from melee. now the game can just be updated to kill this techskill
Can we call this the *Bidoof* Tech instead? lol
Yes
+Infinity Master I was thinking in the same thing xD
+Infinity Master Except this tech isn't useless and weak.
That's what I thought it was at first
AgroW Useless?! HOW DARE YOU INSULT *THE KING OF HM SLAVERY* IN POKEMON! SACRILEDGE!
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(Ok I don't know if what I said about Bidoof was a praise or an insult. lol :P)
Sorry SMC, I can't use this Bidoof competitively if it's not Simple.
Lol!!!
Why is this not top comment?
+Nerological
This guy...
Get this guy, outta this guy!
+Nerological This is the best comment.
+Nerological Plz when was Bidoof used as anything more than an HM slave or farmed for hp evs? ;) Kappa
Its a shame that this technique is restricted to such an obscure control scheme... Amazing to see nevertheless :)
Sakurai: "I'rr give you techs... AT THE COST OF YOUR CONTRORRER RAYOUT!"
+Ronaldo Budhan (WolfManKid) he put tape so you can see the buttons
Which character could gain the most from this? Marth's game is all about spacing, so those minimal movements could be critical.
Will you press the button?
You can do things frame perfect consistently
BUT you must have the worst button layout ever.
Yes
#worth
+ToluDude FUCK YES
meh, ill get used to it
You can set everything to jump.
So basically if you press that button you can only win by footstooling
am I the only one not seeing myself do this from how complex it is?
Nope
I'm with you man.
Napstablook: I'm not really feeling it.
same here
+Amar Zaghloul
It also looks like its strenuous on your hands. Moreso than Melee
Can this tech be used as an HM Slave?
hahaha lool this video reminds me of the long tv ads "with bidou you can do much more and easier"
So theoretically you could do all the trigger/bumper actions with the ABXY buttons (plus ZR for shield), correct? I see how it would be super useful to have them on the back buttons but if I was a claw master I could do it with ABXY, right?
+HyperLuigi Yes, you technically could.
My Smash Corner I'm totally trying it.
+HyperLuigi Hey Mathew, what's goin on...it's been awhile =P
MultiDragon129 Oh hey Nasir, Funny to see you here lol.
HyperLuigi lol right? I wanted to join a smash tournament so i've been practicing my kirby. and Seeing this just makes me think the competitions only gonna get worse XD
No one knew this is what Sakurai really wanted, he hid it deep inside the game and waited for people to discover it.
Daddy Sakurai has blessed us.
+DatDamn MegaBusta with carpal tunnel/arthritis
lol
This might be the tech to REALLY escalate competitive play. Which might put competitive Sm4sh into that scary to enter range.
^^
+Paladin Plays Does Smash 4 tournaments even allow Wii Pro Controllers?
+Shackkeel They are legal. just not the preferred controller like pads vs. sticks on more traditional fighters. Uncommon but still used.
It already is at a scary to enter range lol
+Edwin Vargas before I saw this not really. There were a few techs to learn that were useful, instant ledge grab, shield drop and some characters had a good fox trot, perfect pivot is useful. These took maybe an hour in the lab to learn and integrate. This changes controller, buttons, and the entire punish game woth things like slide spot dodge.
(WIP)
Not sure how many will see or need this, but here's why Bidou is entirely irrelevant in Ultimate:
1. Ultimate's buffering mechanics eliminate the ability to hit a trigger for Specials while doing another move without activating said Special immediately afterwards.
In simpler terms, you can't activate Bidou without using a Special Move first, removing the seamless activation process that Sm4sh (and Brawl?) had.
2. Perfect Pivoting was completely removed from Ultimate, which is a massive blow to Bidou's usefulness right out of the gate. This also means no Crouching Perfect Pivot, Instant Smash/Tilt Perfect Pivot, Sliding Spotdodge, or Quick Step.
3. Ultimate officially added the ability to dash instantly out of a Crouch, Crawl, or Running state. Ultimate doesn't force you to wait for a character to slow down after the stick returns to neutral. All of this makes Bidou pointless for dashing out of these character states.
4. Instant Dash Attacks were properly implemented in Ultimate with the use of the C-Stick, so long as it's mapped to Tilt Attack. Once again, Bidou becomes useless for
Bidou changes every single mechanic you have done in the past My Smash Corner
this is the most craziest tech in smash 4 history
Yes, it really is useful. especially the wall jump
+Hero Smash yeah but not using it cause I wouldn't leave a gc controller for this tech
1.1.6 update incoming
Kappa
+oussama mrissa PLEASE NO
MY REPLAYS
+oussama mrissa Hopefully to turn this thing into a game mode, where you don't have to constantly to push the R button.
Andre Gon lol
So what techs are the GameCube controller constrained to?
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:18 Controls
0:43 Choice of controller
0:57 Holding Special Attack (mandatory)
1:12 Right Stick is now a directional input
1:49 Perfect Pivoting
2:04 Sliding Spot Dodge
2:20 Crouching Perfect Pivot
2:36 Crouching Perfect Pivot into Platform Drop
2:46 Instant Crawling Dash Attack
3:00 Instant Crawling Spot Dodge
3:15 Doing both tilts and smash attacks out of a Perfect Pivot
3:35 Quick Step
3:56 Spamming Dash Attack on Ledge
4:11 Instant Wall Jump/Cling
4:32 Instant Wall Jump/Cling into edgeguarding
4:37 Instant Ledge Trump
4:59 Instant Run out of Walk
5:17 Instant Run out of Run/Walk/Crawl
5:29 Stutter Running
5:42 Slow Run
5:52 Standing Turnaround
6:05 Instant Standing Turnaround out of Perfect Pivot
6:10 Instant Turnaround D-tilt
6:27 Reverse Aerial Rush (and into Bair)
6:46 Wavebouncing substitute (Reverse Aerial Rush into B-reverse)
6:55 Full Aerial Momentum Control
7:32 Optimized Extended Dash Dance
7:59 Outro
8:17 Links
didn't he already put that in the description?
Someone has a little too much free time
+Pixel Not originally.
kk
Tech feels so much nicer to use than the traditional way; thank you for your explanation.
Nintendo releases Smash Deluxe Edition for the NX, which uses a controller with 27 buttons. This game includes all smash characters across all titles. The 27 button 'elite' controller allows pro players to realize their full potential. Tourneys are now TAS melee Foxes, Brawl Meta Knights, and frame perfect Bidou Bayonetta's. The tech skill is so insane that nobody ever gets hit. Matches always time out and our now decided by who can survive the bombs long enough. The winner is now determined by finger endurance where the first person to tire out wins. Top level players are hand fed by assistant players for days waiting for match results. EVO is now a 100 man bracket but is a year long event regardless.
20QQ is upon us.... MangoW
Wow, this looks really impressive on paper. Learning a new control scheme, though, feels like you'd almost be starting from scratch!
Are you going to make Pokken videos bruh?
don't
+Nintendome Probably.
+My Smash Corner So... My Pokken Corner?
+My Smash Corner Is this tech worth it? you can't do double sticking with it
Sup, Nintendome : )
You forgot to talk about the limitations with the Gamecube Controller.
Also, is there anything that you can't do, or that becomes harder, while in Bidou?
no c-stick aerials
+TheClamFace Can you do something similar by flicking the second stick in a direction and hitting attack?
+Izandai I thought it was made clear since it lacks a fourth shoulder button?
+jjg3096 Yes, but he didn't say what that keeps you from doing. I would presume anything that requires you to hit all the shoulder buttons, but everything they're mapped to is duplicated on the face buttons, so I'm confused as to what the limitations actually are.
My Smash Corner just DESTROYING the SM4SH meta once again
How is quickstep any different from Perfect Pivoting? Does it have any uses that would make quickstepping BETTER than PP under certain circumstances?
you coudlve just called the video WAVEDASH IN SM4SH
KioN it's not that simple
There is no true wavedash in Sm4sh.
Waved4sh*
I'm trying to learn this. My brain is burning and it's frustrating. Undoing years of muscle memory and trying to remember what button to hit now is so hard. My right thumb used to move so much around the controller, now it's supposed to sit on an analog while my shield finger attacks and jumps? :l
I switched the controls around. So hard to remember on the spot where everything it. My thumb just moves down to the other buttons without me noticing lol. Gonna be learning this until I'm comfortable with it before trying any techniques
at least youll be able to body your friends easily
I doubt it's gonna die for a while.
People said the same about Brawl. Every Smash game tends to live forever.
but brawl didn't live forever...
Yes it did, people still play it.
YOUR GENIUS! YOU WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE UPDATE! NOW IT WONT BE PATCHED!
Unless sakurai does sakurai, of course.
+Tristan Yun What about his genius?
+Bill Roger It hasn't exploded. But trust me if America does one thing a lot, it is do wild things first and give a damn about consequences later.
How do you z-drop turnips with Peach or blades with Megaman with this Button Configuration??? Sorry if it is a noob question but I'm barely learning how to play properly.
Welcome to Super Smash Bros. Melee 2.0
smash 4 is popular bc it doesn't need tech. that's why it has an overwhelmingly casual fanbase. if ppl wanted to play a tech intensive game, they might as well play melee. in fact, I'm more confident that if this tech does get popularized, it'll attract more ppl to melee once they've experienced what it means to truly have control over your character.
Why does this new technique scares me so much? O-O
THEY LAUGHED AT ME FOR PREFERRING THE PRO CONTROLLER
Please. 3DS as a controller for the Wii U version is way better :p
Is having jump on one of the shoulder buttons/bumpers really necessary? It wasn't mentioned here. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Can you still use Bidou if it's set to grab instead?
Great now I can wavedash
Exactly
no you can't... this is not melee so you can't wavedash
+Preston Lewis When I seen Fox I was like "Oh NOOO! We must prevent 20XX NOOOW! Burn all the Pro Controllers!!!"
+Ayy ermiku it can have pretty similar uses
+Ayy ermiku Congrats, you missed the joke.
Watch me learn this and then it gets patched.
+Cedric Jenkins I wasn't being serious haha. I was poking fun at my bad luck.
+Cedric Jenkins That doesn't mean anything. They patch damage outputs and knockback all the time. Those aren't glitches.
+Trixie Truelove Hi Tris-
+Officially Not SBlash Tris?
+Trixie Truelove Oh wait nvm, I thought you were my friend Trisha lol. My b
Melee HD looks really good
Do you think it's work well with PDP controller ? same as a gamecube but with a better C stick and 4 button in back.
+MrPhilderande1 Should be fine.
I have the Hori one and it works on it.
Since they both can be used out of a foxtrot would quick step jab be faster than perfect pivot jab?
The year is 20BB
The Five Melee Gods are playing Smash 4 competitively.
Melee is completely forgotten.
Im too lazy to learn that, my fingers are too stoppid to use that
Stoppid?
+Marlyn Daway I bet that his fingers thought up that sentence.
You already know
It's me, Kira
+Pizza Shark Hi
Holy shit, Jesus fucking Christ we actually melee
bad joke was bad
How do you get your (cropped) Smash 4 models (the ones you put on your thumbnails).
Cool. More things that only 4% of us can do.
.4% *
+Weekenddrew Lol.
I love this so much, I swear, if it gets patched out I will find sakurai and make him eat that stupid marth amiibo with the broken sword that I got.
do you think the mastering of this bidou gameplay enables you to just have better performance and play on a superior level (like tournament fighters) or its just an alternate way of playing in your opinion?
It definitely enables better/more optimal performance. But to see the results, the bidou controls scheme must become second nature to you, which will take a large amount of dedication, time and practice. This probably means giving up your regular control scheme you're used to, which is why many are hesitant to make the switch.
+My Smash Corner I saw this and was so happy, cu z the N3DS has essentially a c stick... But it isn't customizable...
i am siwtching, everything you said about this set up has shown to be way more efficient and effective than any other controller scheme, bidou will change controller meta hard, and in this might actually be a buff to some lower tier characters.
what do you have on your controller?
***** put B to attack, A to attack or grab, x to grab y to jump, R and Z shield everything else is the same
ok, A+B smash attack is off, but while holding down ZL the special move will re-activate occasionally. any tips/suggestions?
Yooooo! My Pro Controller has some "exclusive" tech for once!
*Goes to FG*
*Sees a Fox main rapidly pressing B while doing random things*
Facepalm
Melee HD is now a reality.
(inb4 melee fanboys)
I main Pichu.
#BringBackIceClimbers
+Aythience 20XX is melee HD
smash 4 is sm4sh
Yep, this button layout will break your fingers faster than how Melee did it to Mew2King
I main young link
After the movie Despicable Me 2, I thought I would never want to ear the noise "Bidou" again, but now this sounds interesting.
is the lagless ledge get up any easier?
+Axel Guevara I did try it, and it is indeed slightly easier. Still hard though.
Ever wanted to use bidou on a new 3ds system with a c stick. Here's a way to do it. Set your 2 shoulder buttons to attack and special. Have a+b smash attacks on and then hold attack and special on your shoulder buttons. This can be through an air dodge or an attack or recovery ect. While holding both attack and special on the shoulder buttons, use the c stick to the left or right and it will be a direction and not an attack. This is bidou not attack bidou. Bidou tech like perfect pivots and crouching perfect pivots are possible but attacking out of a perfect pivot is more difficult because if you use the attack shoulder with special still held then you will charge a smash. You will have to release special in order to attack, turning off bidou. All bidou tech not involving attacks will be possible. I literally just found this, I don't know the limitations of 3ds bidou but hey you now have the option. The reason that you need a+b smash on is because the c stick is for smash attacks and like how for bidou you need to cancel the special move by having special held and for attack bidou to work you need tilts to be canceled by having attack held. Since there is no smash attack button, a+b smash can basically be a smash attack button to cancel smashes from the smash stick.
HOLY SHIT THIS GAME JUST GOT REALLY FUCKIN TECHNICAL
+FusionComet In 5 years, this game remplace Melee
a question: is required to use both analog?
or can I just use the left analog stick and just hold the button?
But... Why? All those button changes is too much for me. I'm just used to turning off tap jump, and i'm set.
+NotMike95 Then dont use it
+T3HK001GUY Already taken care of, thanks ;)
your welcome ;)
I probably sounded like a rude bastard didn't I ._.
sry
+T3HK001GUY It's cool.
THE META IS EVOLVING
Me: Looks at control scheme*
Me: Looks at gamecube controller*
Me: nah
+JandSand 20XX, gotta git with da program brutha
I was messing around with special moves mapped to the c stick, and realized that by jumping and hitting the c stick in the direction oposite that your character is moving, it reverses your momentum (this is best used with characters like mario or marth). is this like a simplified wave bounce, or a completely different tech?
well melee looks to slow after this
+alfanauta No. Not even close
+alfanauta No it doesn't.
wtf
+alfanauta Well, at least I got that it was a joke.
I love it when people especially melee fans takes the bait *FailFish
So you guys figured out how to wavedash. good job
They can't complain about melee being "broken" now otherwise they are saying sm4sh is "broken".
*Sees a pro controller*
"Goddammit Sakurai"
It's very hard to bidou perfect pivot and the sliding thing
inb4 wavedash comments
Nope, you were too late, the wave dash comments have already arrived
fuck
+8:14PMstudios I think we need someone to do a professional examination of just how close it is to WDing.
smashbrolink Maybe ZeRo, M2K, or any of the other best Melee or Smash 4 players out there?
8:14PMstudios
Have any of them practiced it?
This doesn't seem to be a very wide-spread thing yet.
Heck, this video only came out today; we're not even sure if any of the top Melee or Smash 4 players use it regularly yet.
It'd be interesting to see how their Smash 4 play evolves after mastering it, though.
This tech encompasses so many other smaller tech possibilities, like perfect frame movements, dash attacks out of crawls, faster ledge punishes, pseudo wave-dashing etc etc, that it could literally become THE defining feature between competitive and non-competitive Smash players.
I could see tournaments quickly becoming filled with Bidou tech jargon from the announcers commentating the matches.
This video sounds like an infomercial about a product called bido.
Why does this sound like some advertisement? "...But with bidou!..." 😂😂
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you claw with a GameCube controller, wouldn't that solve the problem with the lack of buttons?
WITH THIS TECH SONIC CAN ROLL STRAIGHT OUT OF A RUN. WHAT THE FFUUUUUUUUUUUUCKCKCJVJVVKVJVJVJC
taking sm4sh to the next level
if someone masters this it will be crazy
+scott roth that master will most definitely be ZeRo.
The year is 22XX, everyone uses a pro controller...
Lol underrated comment
This comment is the greatest thing ever.
CanI have some Help please? I want to do infinite dash dance like 4:56 like C Falcon does at the mark. What exactly I have to do?
I'm so scared of what competitive Smash 4 will become now. Basically Melee haha
+Taber McFarlin This game just got a whole lot faster (⌐■_■)
But a bit slower
+Taber McFarlin Thats what i was thinking! This one tech can potentially transform the game like melee did back when this kind of stuff was discovered then.
+Ryanime I wonder if Sakuri had any idea this was possible
The video says WiiU and 3DS, but I can't see this working on a 3DS.
So I was playing around with this yesterday while playing Roy. While wildly attempt to find some new stuff I was able to make Roy do a sliding neutral B twice. I have no idea how I accomplished this and if anyone would help me figure it out I would be extremely grateful.
I swear i managed to do a sliding up b with fox, like it slided while starting up but I don't have a clue how that happened. Maybe it was all in my head after having spent hours trying to learn all these new techniques...
+Badminstep I do believe it's possible but I think it was a really random input that I made that I cannot seem to replicate.
There’s a video called pivot sliding with roy as a thumbnail that talks about a tech very similar to what you’re saying
Could this help with lagless ledge getups? That (and stuff like A-landing) are the only notable frame-specific techs I can think of that aren't obviously covered here.