Smash 4 is Broken
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024
- DISCLAIMER: The purpose of this video was to show silly/good/interesting mechanics. I don't think Smash 4 is truly broken, it's just the name of the series.
Thanks for watching and sorry for the huge hiatus. School is super busy and along with me doing competitive smash, my free time has been so limited. However, I’m managing my time better, and because of being stuck at home to avoid Corona, I’ll have a lot more time for videos. I’ll be working much more so please subscribe!
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Music:
Multi-Man Smash [Wii U / 3DS]
Final Destination - Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
Checker Knights - Kirby Air Ride
Tomodachi Life (Tomodachi Life)
"If you fight Mario, you start at 40%"
And if you fight Bayo, you *end* at 0%
unless you’re luigi heheememehrgfjesjhsrue
Regarding hero, the internet funny man said, "you spawn at kill percent"
And if you fight Bayo, you start at her victory screen.
Plussy; Gang for life!
With bayo you start with 0 stocks
Video: **forgets to mention a specific grab**
Pac-Man: **sighs in relief**
The fan-produced Smash 4 is broken covered it
Jigglypuff: hello
@@hlgnpoi8344 Oh thanks!
Bowser pivot grab range...i don't add anything else...
@@mrpiccionedivino5598 It Is Stil smaller than marth Grab range
1 hour uncut version with every single custom move, or we riot.
1 hour wouldn't be enough
Do it when u can tho
*flashbacks of tripping over villager's sapling*
@@TranslationHell also have the intro be a montage with mr.blur sky playing :>
I'm about to riot
“But when the world needed him most, he vanished.”
it isnt rare for youtubers to take a hiatus... he's still active on twitter
Yeah
@@dragz888 Yeah. WeegeeTheGod hasn't uploaded for like an entire year but still plays games and is on twotter
@@dragz888 And he sometimes streams on twitch, last month he played Steve in Ultimate
@@ScaredyShromGal but I’m too afraid I’m going to get canceled by Karens on there
"I could make a whole video about these [custom moves]."
*_Do it._*
Please do
*DO IT! JUST DO IT*
DO IT. JUST DO IT. FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS. (Old meme)
Blacker Spaniel Stop, Get some help.(Another Old Meme)
NoobsFor DaWin you too
"If you fight Mario, you start at 40%"
The truest words that have ever been spoken.
Wanted to press the like. . . But I can't
Without rage, you can true combo down throw with only one up tilt.
Is mario viable against snake my friend is spammer and I wanna beat him
@@coldtum2278 from my experience in Mario matchups, I get true combo'd only by the first up tilt after the down throw.
P.S: And only at low percentage.
Just don't get grabbed.
As I always said: Little mac hits like a truck and jumps like a truck
That is a very accurate explanation
LolXD
Buff Mac Nintendo. He’s my boy
What’s funnier is trucks don’t jump, implying that you just don’t jump with Mac lol
DefinitelyNotFort I don’t think that’s very true
It's okay, guys. He's just getting all of the custom moves.
It takes time a d rng, so yeah, he could still be getting all custom moves
He left youtube, it was on his twitter😢
@@Omnent wait where
@@Omnent he’s taking an extended break, not leaving
To quote from his Twitter replies,
“Thanks man :), and dont think i moved on, just on a unannounced long break atm. ill try to get back this summer”
I hope he’s okay with me pasting it here
Not gonna lie, I could easily sit through an entire video of you talking about broken custom moves.
WebBowser oh my gosh same!
I could sit through an entire video on custom moves while reading text on screen
poo
Same
WebBowser i want to see that video
Ganon had a custom move where his down b is angled more horizontally in the air and can combo into itself like 3 or 4 times
The ganon we deserved
Surfer dude Ganon should return 😔
_yes it were cool_
That downB was the best ever
Ah, wizard’s dropkick.
Fun fact: That's a nerfed version of Bayo. Not even a final patch specifically made to nerf Bayo was enough to prevent her reign of terror.
People act like that's the case when they could have nerfed her better, "Sakurai tried but couldn't do it:(" nigga he made the game and can keep nerfing bayo
And now no one plays her in Ultimate. Hmm.
@@hyliandoctor Lima makes her work
@@mrPAK215 In fact, I saw many claim that it was going to utterly ruin her. If you were in favour of this nerf you were bad and should just "learn the matchup".
Fast forward past this nerf patch and the one that would follow later and she still manages to utterly dominate Smash 4.
I think it says something that she was nerfed twice over, and not unsubstantially, either, and still ends up the best character by quite a margin.
Some people think nerfs are purely a negative element in game balancing, assuming a never-nerf/only-buff mentality, but I think this makes a pretty strong case for its occasional necessity...
Imagine if Bayo never got nerfed...
"jUsT Di"
"If every character is broken, then they will all counter each other" mashahiro Sakurai
To be fair, that is a design strategy though, instead of making weaker characters and nerfing down, make strong characters and buff weak ones.
basically the ch4os mod
That’s honest to goodness what melee is, it worked pretty well all things considered, even if it wasn’t intended at all, however it didn’t really work for smash 4
@@lightbrand_ as a Zelda player I disagree. Melee is a broken mess. I still like Melee but it would be nice if characters I like playing as were valid.
@@Z95HeadHunter look, i said that melee was in a state where multiple characters are so broken that they balance out, it is true to an extent, a solid half of the cast is viable and mostly because they each have a broken thing about them, that said if you decide to shoot yourself in the foot by playing a character that’s frankly really boring as her entire gameplan relies on her 1 good move, that’s on you...
"Little Mac's Recovery"
That wasn't broken cause that didn't even exist.
Lmao
Well it existed, btu the problem was that is was very exploitable .
Still doesn't exist in Ult
Epic Animations not a wooosh
That recovery was so bad it was only useful on the stage, and even then lot of things were better
Heeew talking about Lucario:
*”It’s possible to die at 50% off one hit”*
Also Heeew:
*Shows Marth killing Cloud with one hit at 31%*
Yeah you had to be good with Lucario to survive. Other characters didn't need that damage taken
To be fair Lucario could kill sub 50 with like 6 moves if he had enough aura
Marth *only* kills that early with tipper f smash
Ludi Marth also killed pretty early with Tipper F-tilt, neutral b, and b-air and it was actually consistent unlike ultimate
@@DeronHargrove doesn't really matter though
Getting rewarded for being hit is bad game design
COMPETITIVELY
Its not a competitive game however or atleast not made to be so its fine
@@madmoxxi7397 Maybe but Street Fighter has been doing fine with it in the past 2 games so who knows
Can’t believe there was no prepatch Diddy
hoo hah
HOO HAH!
Prepatch Diddy, Sheik, and Luigi!
He didn’t really talk about anything that’s been patched.
@@justinc.5591 New video idea: Pre-patch Smash 4 was broken
7:29 can we just talk about how accurate that "shooooryuken" was though
YES. haha Capcom.
And so the video has been released. The prophecy really is true.
Oh, I've been looking forward to this.
Twidgetron he’s finally done it
After so long
So long of waiting, yet still worth it
Keep in mind they released an ENTIRE PATCH just to deal with the witch, and only the witch
and it still didn't work
Because she's the Wicked Witch of the...East.
Couldnt she become invincible by sidestepping into the background?
@@RealityMasterRogue what?
RealityMasterRogue sidestepping?
@@noviance maybe he was talking about a spotdodge?
Zelda in bottom tier: hang on let me dress into something more comfortable
*moves up six tiers*
Dress for success
Classic sheik!
Zelda is melee when she uses down B
Zelda isn't bottom tier, she has the best move in the game, down b, which turns her into a completely different character so you dont have to play as her!
@@thecountercounter9127 that's brawl buddy
I love how DK could basically turn into Brawl Meta Knight by just switching one of his moves
LMAO
Regular Up B:
"I just flipped the switch"
*click click*
Brawl Meta knight
Yup
"The process to unlock custom moves was super tedious"
Y'know what would've fixed that? *Having Smash Run in Wii U.*
I *WISH* they’d bring Smash Run back. Imagine it with 8-Person online multiplayer! I poured most of my 2600+ hours of playing Sm4sh into Smash Run.
Honestly even with smash run it’s pretty tedious, most of the time you get repeats or terrible customs, and for characters you never use too
JickBoi 308 I wish it was you unlock customs for the character you played as
Joe Mama that would be amazing and like I said prior sometimes when you do get them it’s ones you already have, that is why I gave up collecting trophies because once you have a lot of them you just get repeats and you can’t get rid of them as far as I’m aware
Also having Heavenly Light in that box game (it's been a while, I cant remember)
Melee Fox: Very versatile, lasers rack up damage easily and the rest of his move set is great.
Brawl Meta Knight: Unbeatable air game
Pre patch Bayo: *You spawn at kill percentage*
Pre patch bayo
Witch patch?
Bayonetta is easily the most cancer. Fox is deep and fun. Meta Knight is pretty OP but fun to watch at least.
@@williamq6435 I love how you typed which to witch on purpose.
*laughs in ganondorf*
Even post patch
Little mac: "worst recovery of all time"
Smash 64 Link: Am I a joke to you?
Bayo's entire kit was basically, "If she lands an up-tilt, she wins."
correction: if she lands ANYTHING, she wins
@@dylcoll2756 Correction, she wins
Correction:
.
I'm surprised that this video wasnt called
"Dlc is broken"
and the whole video was about bayonetta and cloud.
no... HALF of brawls video was about MK. this one has more to talk about
And corrin
@@WohMi The only thing broken about Corrin was her counter. Her side b was pretty good too but not broken.
man it's crazy seeing how slow they fly after getting smashed now
So true, I remember in Smash 4 to get the launch speeds of Ultimate you had to get hit with the Home-run bat or get smashed at 300% or higher!
it's weird to watch after playing too much smash ultimate
It’s more like getting thrown across the room meanwhile ultimate is getting thrown across same room by ganondorf
Right? I don’t remember it being that slow lol
I tried going back to this game but the Knockback just hunted me
Don't worry guys! He's just waiting for smash 6... right?
Nah hes making an extended smash 4 is broken video eith every single custom move
Plot twist: he’s gonna be the best player at Rivals 2 when it drops because he’ll have omniscient knowledge of all jank and exploits
If there will be a Smash 6, I think the next Smash Bros. game should be called “Super Smash Bros. Legends”.
Kinda wished you talked about sheik and Diddy for a bit. Both were nerfed, sure, but they were still busted after that.
(I wanna add something after over a week. Sheik wasn't busted in the same way cloud or Bayo were. She was broken in the way that her neutral was beyond amazing, her combos were 2nd only to Bayo, she had multiple early kill confirms out of her amazing neutral, most of them ending in a bouncing fish, she could edgeguard most characters effectively (fair, nair, bair, needles, bouncing fish) in a game where edgeguarding was very poor compared to other smash games, her own recovery was long and had many mix ups, her ledge trapping was also solid.
The disadvantages are she's very light and hard to master.)
it was hard, i wanted to add them but i feel they were minor compared to some other mechanics. but ill def keep it in mind for a follow up
Diddy and busted? lol no
NAME NAME NAME far from busted lol after the patches they were just normal top tiers compared to rosa, cloud, and bayo
@@roderrickgaming9949
> Best projectile in the game, Diddy with a banana on shield could punish everything
> one of the dumbest dtilts in the game, safe, spammable and with kill confirms unitl 160
> side b with multiple built in mixup, barely any lag
> fair and dair extremely good and safe for walling out, both could combo and kill
> hoo hah was still a thing
Yea diddy wasn't busted
Prepatch diddy was one of the most broken smash characters of all time
people flying to the blast zone doesn’t look right at all lmao
*g l a v e t y*
It really feels like slow mo compared to ultimate. I can only imagine how slow Brawl would look now lol.
Jeremy Abbott if I remember correctly brawl was even faster then 4.
Remember when people complained about the balloon knockback before ultimate launched? Lol
@@collinpage5172 Brawl was slower than Smash 4, said by Sakurai himself. Faster than Brawl, slower than Melee. & Ultimate is in between Melee and Smash 4
"I could make a whole video about these"
Then do it.
Now.
Please*
I support this
I`m begging you!!!!!
Do the video.
Do it now.
Please. Custom moves are by far the most fun I have ever had in smash easily
"more vids to come no joke"
So that was a fucking lie lmfao
Wish he come back tho
@@carolinepereira3892 I keep checking back to see if I missed a vid or not. Nah the sadness is crushing
@@rhyuke Yes.
@@carolinepereira3892 yea
@@memelordluigi yup
"But it gets worse..." *Raid shadow legends ad*
BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE TOP 3 GAME ON PLAYSTORE
LETS PLAY RAID SHADOW LEGENDS
@@falo4043 spiral roll,sharoen blade and 8 ball poll in my country
Rafael Vinicius
Be careful what you type in this reply section.
As a Stickman Duelist veteran, I exceed your power level by more than 9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000!
"Ladder combos are mainly done by Mario and ZSS"
Meta Knight: *AM I A JOKE TO YOU?*
exactly what I was thinking!!!
Meta Knight? Who's that? You mean from SSBB?
Yo I remember watching MKLeo absolutely destroy Zero with meta knight ladder combos live it was disgusting
It’s called the Rufio, and it’s Meta Knights most awesome combo.
It’s actually more effective in Smash 4 than in Brawl due to the change in hitstun.
Finally enough I only encountered that one time exactly one stinking time and never again
Remember when Cloud's nair was as big as Jupiter?
Nowdays, it's as small as Pluto.
Pluto is still very big
@@f687sNFM Russia has a bigger surface area than Pluto, let that sink in
Delete Youkai
Are using “let that sink in” as some smug insult?
@@bagel4943 no
How is "let that sink in" an insult in some way?...
it has been 3 years, I'm still waitin' on a new Ultimate is Broken since the game got it's final patch with Sora
Just one word: Steve
@@GrandeDubstepBro they spent like 20 hours explaining his move set on the direct
I like the Kirby anime music starting on Bayo. It's almost like you're saying: "Here's the new Meta-Knight guys"
ikr
It’s from Kirby Air Ride
How long until Pika is that way in ultimate
@@charKT-7461 nope.
ruclips.net/video/1T07MY1pNCo/видео.html&
@Minas Thirith The much easier to find one is the Air Ride one.
2:58 “Worst recovery of all time”
64 Link: *Phew*
oh god I just got Vietnam flashbacks of 64 Link
64 Link has projectiles to cover his return, hes got Mac beat!
Sarah Shinespark
Yeah but when do you see his “return” to the stage happen
@@maplemoht when do you see Little Mac tho
The Pika Player
Didn’t say it was good but links makes you fall more than you gain
Lest we forget, Pac-Man's grab.
Takes way too many frames, and the hitbox is practically nonsensical. And it leaves him open.
Fortunately, Ultimate fixed that, so he's viable now.
pgj1997 Jigglypuff: and this is where I’d put my patch notes.
IF I HAD ONE!
Bowser Jr frame 80 neutralB
It had three parts and none of them were out at the same time, so you could walk through his grab. It was so dumb. His grab nowadays is actually really good. It's laggy in exchange for great range and a long lasting grab boxm
pgj1997 ACTUALLY, he now has a chaingrab to death with f throw and d throw, it’s DUMB as bayonetta’s combo game, seriously it’s broken.
I remember his grab frames went in a pattern
! Meaning you could just straight up run into his grab and not get caught
Customs, while horribly unbalanced, were so cool to mess around with and i wish they had made a return in ssbu in some form or other
I’m so happy that Custom Specials live on slightly in Mii’s. I wish they could come back for other characters
Ah yes, the days when Cloud's Finishing Touch killed at 40 and all you found in For Glory was DLC
Legit forgot finishing touch was a move in ultimate. Thanks for reminding me
And could easily be true combo'd out of using up air. I mean it does in Ultimate too, but you actually have to hit a landing down air, which unless you are playing against a heavy or Mewtwo, isn't happening.
Man, looking back, Smash 4 feels so floaty compared to Ultimate.
I've been watching too many Smash 4 videos. The knockback is starting to look normal.
Ik its so strange....
Brawl: allow me to introduce myself.
Laughs in melee
Ikr
Remember when all of the Smash 4 Bayo mains insisted that their character wasn't broken at all, and that they only played her because they liked her character design?
They sure did show us by sticking with her in Ultimate, right? :)
This is so sadly true, the fact that she was added by popularity and ended forgotten in Ultimate shows how lame the community can be
@@pearlgalaxy I actually love her design and ahe is one of my favorite characters, but in Ultimate she just isn't fun to play, because nothing works
@@xolotltolox7626 I mean I still play Rosalina and she's ABSURDLY tricky to use now. I don't know much about Bayo, I thought she got buffed.
@@pearlgalaxy She got buffed multiple times, and her Witch Time is much better compared to Ultimate on Day 1, but it is still very difficult for her to do work.
I never played Sm4sh so Ultimate is my first chance trying some of those "new" characters and... just based on what I've seen online in Ultimate, without videos like these, I'd have no idea how certain characters like Rosalina or Bayonetta could ever be decent. Certain "new" characters from Sm4sh like Bowser Jr. and Little Mac feel easy to pick up, although the results are mixed. Trying to learn how to play as the more technical characters like Bayonetta and Shulk both doesn't look easy to learn, and they just don't seem particularly strong, so as someone who never played them in the previous game, there's little incentive to try them. Even with Shulk, though, I still match against some really good Shulks who beat my ass, but I think I've literally beaten every Bayonetta I've ever fought in Ultimate... It's a real shame because she looks like a cool character, but everything I've seen and heard tells me she sucks now.
bro dropped one of the most fire youtube series then dipped
WOAH 20 MINUTES AGO?
@@BlueSkootyTo be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand en passant jokes. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of chess theory most of the jokes will go over a typical redditor's head
(sorry my cat walked on my keyboard and this was the result)
Little Mac: Worst recovery of all times
Smash 64 Link: Hold my juice
Well if you think about it, almost everyone in smash 64 had a bad recovery. Maybe in a vacuum, smash 64 link had the worst recovery, but in comparison to those in the rest of each other's respective games, little Mac has a worse recovery in comparison to the rest of 4's cast.
@@king_alloy I guess that's true. Comparatively, having the worst recovery in a game with 12 characters isn't as bad as having the worst recovery out of 58 characters.
@@king_alloy no, not everyone in 64 had a bad recovery. pikachu's recovery is broken in that game.
@@hhhhhh-vi6sq I did say almost, I knew pika existed
@@king_alloy oh thats right, my bad
I use the smash 4 theme as my alarm clock’s sound in the morning.
The start of this video gave me an extreme fight or flight response.
This... is a really good idea.
"Playing Mii fighters requires a mii"
Bro that's wild
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes
Douglinhas 2.0 the belly button you have is your old mouth 👄
You know it's cold outside when you go outside and it's cold.
Muffinconsumer4 2 degrees, duuh.
@Muffinconsumer4 uh 20 degrees
For the people looking at the comments too see if there's any update on where heeew is well here's some news. He is alive don't worry and he said he's been slowly working on a video on his twitter but there is no eta. That's it now scram.
@Quantum Passport np
Holy shit he's not actually doing all custom moves right?
@@raiden8929 i dont know he just said hes been working on a longer video.
Do yall have a life?
@@4nanymous4812 yes we do.
This game just kept getting more broken as time went on. Patch balancing was done horribly, DLC characters were clearly overpowered and cheesy, the meta began to revolve around camping and fishing for grabs, and the competitive scene ended with fucking Bayo dittos at Evo.
And still, somehow Sm4sh's online was better than Ultimate's.
Mason BC because the game is better than ultimate but yes bayo sucks because of how op that character was
@Luca Antinori why the hell is everything capitalized
@Prime Choi Min-ki He think that he means in 4 it was the most absurd
Yeah I enjoy 4 more because at least in that game
Zoners are shitty
Somehow Ultimate manage to do 1 thing that makes people prefer Smash 4 more: Making Ultimate's online so fucking broken and shitty that people unironically defend for glory.
I can't blame them.
Customs are so broken, I saw a comp match with two Sonics who spammed the bury version of side b until the match went to time
Neither of those were actually Sonic players, they were just top players being trolls and wanting to mess around
Have you heard of links meteor bomb? If hit offstage its basically a confirmed kill
Sauce?
@@johntelekom9712 but you sacrifice bomb jumping
I'm still convinced that if someone practiced hard enough, a palutena with custom moves could have won EVO where custom moves were legal
yeah, lightweight combos were pretty busted
i doubt it, bayo would just sweep her
*smiles in Palutena main*
A couple gimmicks isn't going to replace a complete lack of neutral tools
@@OPickler Palu had one of the best rushdown tools in super-speed, and the absolute best mobility with lightweight.
Both gave her an unbeatable recovery, some of the deadliest combos, and an insane spacing and mindgame potential.
With customs, she was stronger than Ultimate Palu, and her nair wasn't that busted.
He’s still alive, posted on Twitter last March. Not even addressing his RUclips or anything which sucks but what can you do
Thanks for this😭😭😭
Any updates
1 word: Bayonetta.
No bayonetta was better then cloud
Doge Fishron
Bayonetta, Cloud, and Sonic.
The unholy trinity of Smash 4
Also the 3 characters that got gutted the most in Ultimate.
-Oh yeah, Rosalina was annoying too-
@@Cinko420 Replace sonic with diddy kong and we got something going here
Paper Mario
Sonic was extremely infamous for being annoying in Smash 4. It even led to the reputation Sonic mains have afterwards. Even Alpharad refuses to use Sonic.
Though, Diddy was also gutted in Ultimate as well, so you're right I should've added him.
@@Cinko420 I see where your coming from. I just added diddy because in the grand scheme of things this character was extremely broken throughout the early sm4sh days and just as unfun later in the competitive scene. Sonic was very annoying and campy, but at least he didn't have early broken kill combos like hoo-hah (his up b up air only kills at high percents), and didn't have a move that could literally be top tier (banana). Sonic's spin dash and campiness were annoying, but he fell apart later on as more people figured out the mu, and even though I main him in ult, he was gutted to hell in ult and half of his moves don't even work, and unlike diddy he never got buffed. Sorry for the rant, I usually do this a lot hehehe!
"You created top tier!"
Mii brawler in a nutshell
69th like and I also main Mii Brawler
I main gunner
I play Ugandan Knuckles skin mii brawler my only elite smash character other than Samus lmao
I mained Brawler and Swordfighter in Sm4sh
this is post-patch Bayo btw
don't even imagine pre-patch
just don't
*grabs banhammer*
*holy music starts*
The first week after Bayo's patch literally every Bayo main was saying how they nerfed her too much and I find that week one of the funniest weeks in Smash 4 history.
@@Parpeing Tweek: Losing to Bayo? Just get better at the game lul
Also Tweek: Picks up Bayo because his other S tier wasn't winning enough
Bruh that aerial side b that was lagless and unpunishable, we really went through some shit
@@Parpeing they weren't sippin cool-aid they were sippin tears
i can only hope heeew's made us wait so long because he's doing a video about all of the custom moves
What really brought me into the smash scene more was seeing Etika's reaction to Mewtwo with his shitty yet hilariously audio from his mic. His hyped up reactions to every character DLC was always funny and I loved every part of it!
F
Man, rest in peace etika
Joycon boys forever
Wow! I was shocked to see that “Fox’s Voice” wasn’t on here!
Seriously, Fox’s voice in Smash 4 sucked.
I didnt mind it personally but yeah it wasnt great. Didnt Fox's actor rerecord all of his voice clips for Ultimate?
I find it wierd too since wasnt the guy who voiced Fox the same guy who voiced him in Star Fox 64/Lylat Wars?
Set it to japanese and you get the REAL fox
WaAaAaGh
@@jrhamari pretty sure fox never keeps the same English va for more than one game for some reason.
4:12. Is no one going to mention that Ryu saying “Shoryuken!” actually syncs up with the music?
Yeah !
Iron Blaze wtf it does 😂
And Robin Dying
I don’t hear it being synchronized with the music
4:18 This too
7:41 you can barely hear the word “meta”.
Knight..?
@@tyer6496 its meta, bc bayo is the meta of the game.
@@byel2844 i was saying that because she's like the new meta knight, cause she is.
You cannot escape me, Lost Kin
@@akirbyobsessee7396 leave me alone pls :c
7:22
Hold up...
Did..
Did Mac just do an air combo..?
Impossible
WHAT HOW
Its not possible!
Oh yeah the air infinite with little mac. Turns out even with garbage hitstun a two frame nair is overpowered in a game with smash 4’s footstools.
Up tilt + u air (I think) + Nair + jumps = that
He hasn't even mentioned the
worst:
*cloud in doubles*
godpooon That literally was the whole meta in doubles, Cloud or you lose. I really am surprised he didn’t mention that
ruclips.net/video/M83OBQAB_2s/видео.html thumbnail sums it up for you
@@inksaneluke7099 Far from it, actually.
At first, the meta was Pikachu + G&W. Thunderbolt filled buckets instantly and lethally. So they patched it out.
Then, it was Cloud & Cloud.
However, at SSC 2018(?), two Japanese players came out of nowhere with Lucas & Lucario. They worked so well with one another, they could pilot a Gundam together. Watching them play was beautiful. They beat all the Clouds and took 1st place. Nobody's been able to replicate their strategies so well.
Inksane Luke *shudders*
godpooon Cloud pretty much turned doubles into Dark Souls.
Playing Kirby: "its not 64"
Playing fox: "its not melee"
Playing meta Knight: "its not Brawl"
Playing bayo: "its not sm4sh"
Playing Pichu: "its not ultimate patch 1.0"
Kirby was so much fun to take online.
Losing was also a lot of fun.
*olimar
iS tHAt a N A t h a N i E L b A n D y rEFereNcE?
Playing Hero: It's not Ultimate.
Edit: Now it's Sephiroth.
Meelee
Link's old voice is so nostalgic.
yeah your right
Green link was better anyway.
@@lumizu2091 yes
Akira Sasanuma who besides Link he also voiced Austria in Hetalia, kinda sad that he doesn't seem to dub anymore.
@brightblackhole yeah I'm really missing "hyuh, aragh" compared to "ho, ayah"
"Custom Moves. I could do a whole video about these"
DO IT.
*bet*
I need to see it!!!
YES
Of course they were awesome still are
Charizard’s side B custom Blast Burn makes the examples look like a Happy Meal toy
-bigger hitbox then Flare Blitz
-increased recoil damage can be a good thing because of rage
-huge shield damage
-kills at INSANE low percent
-basically death if landed off stage
My friend had a custom Charizard with it and the kill percent was around 30 percent ON AVERAGE
If Brawl was the game that got people not Smash, Sm4sh was the game that got people into competitive.
Yup. No other smash games you could say that about. Absolutely zero. Definitely nothing excluded.
Certainly true for me. I honestly feel like 4 was when streaming and content creation really took off.
I started with Melee, and it's my least favorite. I'm neutral in regards to the competitive scene, but I hate participating in any sort of competition myself. Brawl was the one that made me really into the series.
All the hype whenever a new item, music or character popped up on the site, the trailer, all the cutscenes of Subspace Emissary, those are all precious to me. The only thing I miss about Melee is the Event mode.
Damn I feel old. I got into smash from 64 and into competitive from melee :/
gr8 b8 m8
Mr G&W had a custom move for the side B, Only 1 or 9, and is 50/50
Well that s broken
but 9 was weakened
@@patrickstar258 Keep in mind that the nine is weakened, and he would take 15 damage if it was a 1
@@SrFreakus 9 was still very powerful.
It had less killpower, but a lot of killpower nonetheless
12:21 - "Been really busy with life, but I'm ready to come back fr fr"
*Famous Last Words*
And he was never seen again
It's been *four years*
“Bayonetta has no weakness”
Sakurai: Allow me to introduce myself
Electro Light ultimate: am i a joke to you
In the end Sakurai had to make a whole new game just to make her worse, I mean even after nerfs in smash 4, she was still busted (this video is after the nerfs and she’s still amazing) so she really doesn’t have any weakness.
Notes: (📌📌📌)
0:42 - Rage still exists in Ultimate, but it only scales by 2/3 as much (and it still only reaches that max at 150%). It also doesn't apply to hits that have fixed knockback (knockback that doesn't scale with percent, like Roy's up-B first hit that was showcased in Melee is Broken) in Ultimate. (Rage still applies to non-fixed-knockback hits in stamina mode for some reason, though.)
1:08 - Lucario also had aura in Brawl. He actually has _less_ damage output until 70% [65% in Ultimate], and the knockback calculation actually multiplies the damage after the hit by 2 plus the damage the hit dealt: if a particular hitbox was charged (or the aura modifier applied) to deal 20% and hits someone at 100% (120 × 22), it's the same as if it was only charged to 10% and hit someone at 210% (220 × 12). Rage is applied after all the other stuff. (The 1v1 multiplier in Ultimate is ... weird.)
2:06 - Limit only lasts 15(?) seconds in Ultimate, which actually means that charging it can sometimes be a bad idea at high percents (Cloud's recovery is better with limit than without).
4:37 - Miis in Ultimate only have different stats based on their class: the Mii brawler is lighter than the Mii swordfighter, and the Mii swordfighter is lighter than the Mii gunner. Not by much, though.
6:15 - G&W's up-air is a multi-hit projectile instead of a 2-hit direct attack in Ultimate, and it also basically _never_ KOs unless you're already at the top. If you know which way your opponent is going to DI, you can get a ridiculously long juggle off of up-air chains too.
6:53 & 11:34 - Both of these things are now techable in Ultimate. Some things aren't, though, such as the (new) Super Launch Star item and using B&K's side-B in the air with no feathers left.
8:51 - Witch Time lasts _much, much_ shorter in Ultimate.
‒:‒‒ - Bayonetta in Sm4sh had the only Final Smash to be able to KO without sending you anywhere (if you reach 100% by a certain part of its animation). A number of other characters (Bowser [at 60%, or 80% with FS meter], Zelda, Ridley, Joker [All-Out Attack ending a match with this kind of KO will actually not cut back to gameplay-it will just say "GAME SET" and cut to the victory screen, which is different in this case too], and Sora) have Final Smashes that share this property in Ultimate. (Hey, I _liked_ those kinds of KOs. There's a reason I like The Great Cave Offensive in 1v1s, 4-player, and 8-player battles alike.)
‒:‒‒ - Witch Time can also counter some moves that other counters and shields can't, with Little Mac's KO punch (you can't shield it for some reason) being a prime example.
‒:‒‒ - Ultimate's knockback physics are totally different for some reason, except for fixed-knockback hits (such as the top [the 18% part, not the OHKO part] of the train stage hazard in Mementos).
Not to be rude, but who is gonna read this?
Matheus Fernandes I like your profile picture, just pointing that out
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi: Well, evidently at least 3 people.
Great comment
in other words
ultimate is not broken
Smash 4 gameplay in a nutshell: grab, then attack.
Sounds just like Ult to me.
Can't forget run up shield
No its grab, attack, and pray.
a perfect game for zangief
downthrow up air the game
10:52 looks like normal ultimate shulk gameplay to me.
Same
Lawless times, but Sm4sh on 3DS was what taught me the fundamentals to actually be skilled at the game after going on a whole Smash Hiatus since my childhood Brawl days. I played PM a bit just before getting Smash 4 but it was long after that scene died out and I pretty much only played it alone against CPUs. Smash 4's era was an era I'll never forget
Smash 3DS was the very first smash game I got, because the 3DS was my only nintendo game machine. I put tons of hours into it, because of how freaking fun it is, especially with friends. The online is still not too shabby. There are some players around. While the Ultimate is the Ultimate smash game, I'll always cherish the 3DS version, for giving me such good memories with my fiends.
Honestly, very good times
I still play the 3DS version to this day, even with some friends who also own the game, so much fun
Sm4sh 3DS was a blessing
I honestly hate competitive smash because of that game. Lag, rude players, no way to talk (though in some ways that's a good thing), and just an overall miserable feeling. I like Smash but that game has honestly made me never want to play it competitively ever again. It's just painful compared to other fighting games I know.
Wow no heavy skull bash in customs i'm unsubscribbing
ESAM :(
Hey ESAM big fan
Looooooool
Hey it's eric
Lol hi ESAM :)
Can't believe the video was finally made, this is some very -huge- Heewge news, honestly
very funny and not at all obvious puns
@@ScoutSunset totally not obvious
The velocity physics looks so weird now
7:08 is no one going to mention how sick this pac man combo is?
I mean, it’s way more hype than your average Bayonetta combo
I suppose if wobbling is sick
@@buffbear7890
it is literally just wobbling except cooler looking
this shit looked like a turbo mode combo fr
@@idkman272 yeah z drop > Foot stool > item grab x10 is intense
Smash 4 players said they hated this game when Ultimate came out, I never knew why or cared to figure it out but now I know lmao
Barbazboub Bayonetta... that’s why
Barbazboub We didn’t realize how bad it was until ultimate made literally everything better
The only things I find problematic from Smash 4 are easily spammable air dodges, autolink jank, and specific characters that are too good. I do like that game's speed, pace and damage output much more than Ultimate.
Random Username That’s true, but Sm4sh has almost no replayability now, which makes me really sad tbh :(
@@Sardine_Sandwich Yeah, Smash Ultimate is basically Smash 4 but better in almost every way(aside from not having Smash Run). At least there is still an incentive to play the other games. Smash 64 because of nostalgia and game modes, Melee because of gameplay and game modes, and Brawl mainly because of Subspace. Each of those games have their own unique gameplay and style. It's like Ultimate is the TRUE sequel to Brawl while Smash 4 was just an appetizer.
5:19 lmao the mii fighter is doing combo outside the stage and using his last stock for it but marth has 2 stock left 😂
I love how even though i played this game for over 1000 hours
I can never remember it exists
@@Parpeing
You're only allowed to enjoy the newest smash game (and brawl) or you get labeled a melee fanboy boogeyman and/or you're ungrateful of Sakurai's hard work
It's super dumb that all the smash communities hate each other
If we can go back to this games mechanics for 1 hour in ultimate i would take it
@@Parpeing you're right, every smash bros is dope.
Melee, Brawl, 4, Ultimate, hell, even 64 had it's grace.
They all are unique, every single one of them has their flaws, but the neat stuff was always better.
BTW the Rosa Ness matchup is the most unfair matchup ever in Rosa's favor.
Indeed
Not really, actually closer than you think.
Ness had a lot of an harder time against swords, Corrin and Cloud were pretty much unwinnable
Counterpoint: Pac Man vs Little Mac
@@Izandaia good point.
@@Izandaia indeed
The 3 big things missed imo, were:
1: Bowser's Turnaround grab had insane range. Clips show it reaching far beyond his hand.
2: Ganon's Flame Choke killed the opponent first, meaning you'd camp ledge as Ganon, and fish for it.
3. Lylat.
Don't forget the game itself and the removed "Brawl" mechanics like Gliding
What about the weight dependent throw lag. Something like that
Don't forget Diddy
@@Finsceal Oh, you mean the same gliding with Ridley in Ultimate XD
@@poofithing In all fairness, he did get toned down substantially. Prepatch was definitely busted, but then again there were so many infinites, momentum techniques and more lol
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Me decides to replay smash 4 today: “this games seem somewhat broken compared to ultimate”
RUclips: recommends me this video
“RUclips scares me sometimes”
You know, it's truly impressive just how _much_ of Smash 4's jank was directly addressed in Ultimate. Almost every single thing here was accounted for!
Except for Ganondorf he was even more broken
@@hillefoozy and thats a good thing
@@hillefoozy ganondork is hard d tier bruh what do you mean
And it baffles me that many game reviewers think Smash 4 is better than Ultimate!
it's scary that just this morning i was watching the Smash is broken series complaining internally that there wasn't a video about Smash 4, good job dude, ya videos are 👌👌👌
its been 3 years, his last youtube words were “more vids to come (no joke)
he has a twitch tho apparently his last stream was only 9 months ago
I'm kinda surprised there isn't a mention of puff who didn't get a single change the entire lifespan of Sm4sh
or dedede
@@knack3381 didn't Dedede get a nerf to his side B one patch.
@@3.2187_Kilometres he also had his jab infinite patched out as well.
NOT TRUE!
...she got a bug fix to Rollout.
@@EnergyBurst2 they also nerfed his airspeed. Not by a meaningful amount, but it was the principle of the act.
"Footstool combos"
Doesn't show footage of Greninja.
*Cries in frog :,(*
Who's Greninja?
@@fernandobanda5734 a frog
Better nerf him
@@fernandobanda5734 A pokemon.
@@briandavidgilbertclips7223 he wasnt nerfed enough, more nerfs required
“One strong hit on Mac is a stock”
No it’s one weak hit on Mac is a stock
A hit on Mac is a stock
A breathe on Mac is a stock
I did a single side tilt at 23, instant ded.
A fart on Mac is a Stock
One Fortnite is a stock.
I hope you’re doing well dud, dunno whats going on but I shall wait patiently for the next video
Sakurai: we fixed all of sm4sh's problems in Ultimate.
Bayonetta players: *screams in Bayonetta*
@@voltingmaster5458 he was a nightmare in doubles but at least Sakurai fixed that problem
It seems strange to me that the Custom Moves have not been nerfed. And that I really adore that new game mechanic.
Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS has grown a lot in how to play this wonder and know the franchise a lot, I have always loved both games especially 3DS.
There were several things I liked about the 4th game, like;
- Custom Fighters
- Smash Run
- Master Core (Only beated once)
- 8 Players Smash
- 3DS as a Controller
- And Online Tourney
I have always loved that game, especially in 3DS. The First Smash Bros for a portable console.
I will always remember that game a lot, I will never forget how good it is for me, even if it is hated, but I love it.
“Worst recovery of all time”
64 Link: _Allow me to introduce myself_
At least link had more distance than little mac with his old recovery
@@TooQueenForThis Mac has a really good wall jump to be fair, not to mention edge-guarding is, in general, not nearly as strong in 4 compared to 64. Personally, I think 64 Link's is even worse.
No wonder why he tells "SHAAAATT"
Nowhere near as bad, but...
Ivysaur: Works 10% of the of the time, none of the time.
Endershock1678 in which game?
enters
uploads a multitude of smash videos
gains 160k subscribers
refuses to elaborate
leaves
My favorite aspect of ZSS is how everyone who mains her tries to pretend she isn't broken
I mained zss in smash 4 and I didn't even know she was broken -_- I just thought I was good at the game xD then I looked up videos
...what I found terrified me...
wait zss? wdym?
@@thegames4565 Zero Suit Samus
@@johndasalty111 same thought i was good i mained sonic and was agressive
"She goes 40-60 against like 4 matchups she's basically mid tier"
"Customs are already tedious to collect. But it gets worse"
Ad: Let's play Raid: Shadow Legends
*Bjcoolboy04* *Gaming* custom moves are good
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Even with the flaws and balancing issues Smash 4 had, without those flaws we probably wouldn’t have the wonderful game that is Smash Ultimate that we have today
s4 is goated
well said
Ultimate is very mediocre tbh
Single player is poor and boring as hell, the only actually good things are classic mode and stage builder. The rest is ether forgettable or outright bad (WoL is worse than Smash Tour, Spirits are just Events done poorly)
Gameplay wise is limiting and much less creative. Is less broken but less interesting at the same time, gimmicks are polarizing and the best way to deal with them is playing passively and not interacting with them
The biggest thing Ultimate has is the number of characters. But that doesn't make a good game
@@Mattroid99 you say "WoL is wis worse than Smash Run" like that's not to be expected.
Smash Run was my favorite thing to do.
@@CaptainCFalcon I meant Smash Tour lmao, Smash Run was amazing
Dad where are you It's been 400 days
As a fan of Little Mac, 7:23 is the most satisfying thing ever to watch.
7:23
WHEREISSPACEBAR agreed!
If only he didn't get nerfed in Ultimate.
@@claytongray7656 Still can't believe that he got NERFED, he was bad and Sakurai decided to make him worse. I seriously wonder what happened there