You may have noticed that there isn’t a sketch in front of this video. Well there IS a sketch, but RUclips banned it… so we had to remove it before the video went out. BUT, we are going to attempt to post it to Instagram @thethrottlehouse later today. So go follow us there, and let’s see if Zuckerberg is a bit more forgiving than papa RUclips. 😂
I’m not sure how long ago this video was made, but Rivian recently did an OTA update that, among other things, recalibrated the suspension. My R1T rides even better now and is more settled over poor roads. I’m sure it’s the same for the R1S. They also added a setting that automatically lowers suspension when put in park. Nice for shorter people or loading things in bed.
Hahaha talk about deja vu. This is the exact same shit people were saying about Teslas in 2018. Everything could be fixed with just a software update, surely.
@@MrRandomguyTom It is literally a functional vehicle, one that multiple reviewers have agreed is quite great in many aspects, with the R1T even more so. What are you talking about?
I still think it's amazing how well these things ended up being made, especially for such a new maker. MKB was talking about how classic supposedly tough SUV maker Hummer let him drive their new EV and were like don't do this, don't do that, don't x1000 things. Meanwhile Rivian was like here's ours... do your worst! Just try and break it!
As an actual employee of rivian I love watching things like this to show our product out there on the road and how well it goes thank you for everybody who's seen this and purchase one of our vehicles all of us at the manufacturing facility appreciate it greatly !!!!
I've had my R1T before the price hike, and here's some of my takeaways. The steering wheel can be adjust faster by tapping your name in the top left. The camera quality has gotten better with one of the latest updates. The range is surprisingly consistent. Rivian rep told me I'd get 280 because of my offroad tires, but I dont get less than 300. The speakers are amazing, the speed is fantastic, the handling is amazing, and the steering is better than most sports cars. The downsides are that the maps is complete garbage, camera quality still isn't on par with others. The turning circle is garbage, and the air suspension makes weird noises.
And "price is right"? Show us how rich you are. Did you get your "tax rebate" you poor thing? You surely deserved it somehow. Taking from poor to give to the rich is USA's favorite left-wing idea.
Despite not being a truck person after seeing both the R1T and R1S several times now, I came to the same conclusion, I would rather have the truck too. I really like the truck, especially in blue.
To adjust the steering wheel position and side mirrors, you can access the Profile Panel at anytime by tapping in the top left Profile icon. That way is 2 steps no matter where you are in the system. The four steps you took is an alternative method.
As one of the very early adopters, (11/29/2018) I initially wanted the R1S. Later, after learning of the delay of the SUV, I switched to the truck. I cannot express how happy I am with my Compass Yellow R1T! Tracked it a few times and got consistent 11.4 second runs at 110 mph. Too bad they limited the top speed to 110 mph. It prevents me from doing an 11.2 second run! The limiter shuts the truck down about 200 feet from the end of the 1/4 mile.
you guys are the greatest. Recently found your youtube channel (this week) and have already watched one year of content from you (not to say you guys don't have much content, because you do, I just can't stop watching). Your love for all these cars and the intuition/analyzes you bring to the table is so intriguing. I wish you had more classic cars though. Being an American teenager, I love old classic muscle cars. But keep it up your work is great.
I own a 2022 Tesla Model S Long Range and a 1999 Land Cruiser 100-Series. I drove a Rivian R1T and it felt like an electric Land Cruiser. Absolulty amazing!
the “pardon me sir” and absolute care to not disturb the bee 🐝 ❤ As for the spice and sauce thing, I’m 100% with Thomas on that, my ancestors were terrified of flavor. And as a result, even bbq sauce has a bite to me. God forbid I eat buffalo anything, I’m stuck in the bathroom the entire next day.
Every time I watch a Rivian review (R1S & R1T) I’m blown away how good these vehicles seem to be. Only fault I can find is that the range seems to be a tad bit low on the lower end models, but the price remains high.
It can’t tow long distances. Let’s face it, people buying these vehicles aren’t buying them because they are trying to help their environment. They’re buying them to say I don’t pay a ridiculous amount in gas prices right now. Once they make the switch it’ll go right back to the normal. Electricity is going to cost as much as gasoline because reasons. People also don’t mention the fact that these big electric vehicles have GVWRs that are equivalent to ambulances and medium duty flatbed trucks. They’re as dangerous, at the speed limit, as ICE vehicles are going 25 over the speed limit. Making an rc car to scale isn’t impressive.
@3:20 Hi James, a construction engineer here. Cement is the binder in mortar, a type of concrete. In contact with water, it enters into a chemical reaction, as a result of which the mixture hardens, turning it into concrete. So the highways are made out of concrete! :)
I love how Thomas' voiceover at 6:22 clearly shows James is driving the shot. Who knew the best way to make Top Gear USA actually work, and be exceedingly close to peak Jeremy/James/Richard era Top Gear UK, was to use a brit in canada and an actually canadian duo. Love your content!
No matter what I can't be convinced about interior quality and ergonomics of a car which is all cheap tablets, no matter how responsive they are. Not having physical buttons is cutting corners. Great video from you guys as always!
@@dakotawoodruff2622 most of modern cars have both the tablet and the buttons, so putting more functions in the tablet is definitely a cost saving move
@@dSCasp3r Except functionality if you load more into the tablet for main controls the more processing power and more programs and services will be needed to be ran, meaning even more money needs to be put into the screens.
@@JulianKeenan Lets be real here, there are plenty of dangerously heavy and fast ICE trucks out there, especially the RAMs and F150s of the world are a menace to anybody not also in one.
They caught on so quick 1- because Tesla dropped the ball with their pickup truck. That’s what people were waiting for and 2- Ford and Chevy took forever to build their electric truck. With that being said, I’m starting to think that Fiat/Chrysler/Mopar (Dodge) should buy Rivian. I think the R1T would be an incredible platform for an Electric Dodge Ram and the R1S as a great platform for the Durango or Jeep Grand Cherokee.
You're almost right about some people eating them in cereal for breakfast haha. Here I am watching the video while eating chilaquiles verdes made with serranos for breakfast. Great video as usual you guys are killing it.
I really like the Rivian R1S, and I'm even looking forward to owning one... but I do agree that the called out flaws need to be improved and resolved. I am anxious to buy my Rivian later this year hopefully
You guys are the best in the industry at what you do. Production, quality, comedy, boyish good looks lol. Great job from a fellow Canadian. Moms British. Dads Italian. First generation Canadian 🇨🇦
Hey guys, when was this filmed? Rivian very recently released an OTA that drastically changes suspension settings and actually makes Sport mode bearable and not as bouncy as before, just stiff.
If I could afford it, I'd get the truck just because it's so practical for outdoorsy activities. Imagine going to the beach or the woods with all the goodies you need ready to be unloaded. 😁
Won't be practical to tow anything with. The Ford F150 Lightning for example can't tow anything big for more than 10 minutes before the battery needs charging. Complete farce.
Struggling to reconcile "it's dangerous and oversteers too easily" with "we like it".. (loved James' face discovering a Jarrito in the trunk - it's all in the comedic details)
Minor quibble at the beginning - "...a flat bed..." means something specific - it means a truck chassis/cab with *JUST* a flat sheet as the bed. No walls on the sides, no gate on the back. The R1T is absolutely *NOT* "a flat bed" truck. Its bed walls are absolutely integrated and not removable, since its a unibody where the cab and the bed are a continuous shell. Yes, the R1T has a pickup bed. But it is not "a flat bed."
Anyone notice at 11:09 when they switched the screen to the camping one an R1T flashed up on the screen before almost instantly going back to an R1S? I think they need a little more software development time on this thing.
I'm very surprised that nobody mentioned what happened on the display screen in the car. If you go to 11:07 and adjust your playback speed to 0.25, you will see that the screen glitches and shows the pickup truck model first before switching to the SUV model at about 11:08 lmaoo.
We'll have to see how they hold up after years of use. They might only last to the end of the warranty period before absolutely falling apart. Rivian the company is also relatively new. They have money coming in from Amazon but they're still essentially a startup. If they burn through their reserves and go out of business in a few years then who's going to service their cars?
Chances are Rivian made the R1T to be a truck, and just changed the body for the R1S, and didn't recalibrate it for the shorter wheelbase. So they dialed in the R1T, and mailed in the R1S. Saved a hundred million dollars.
I have had one for a few months and saw this review prior to collecting mine which had been on order for about a year and a half. it is bumpy and twictchy .....but over a couple of thousands of miles, it has become considerably smoother. Igues the suspension has to be broken it to some degree. I use the low setting in height and all purpose drive with low regen and it drives really well. In sport, it remains fairly bumpy on uneven pavement. Still a great drive/ride
Absolutely love my R1T to live with daily. Totally agree on the R1T being more of a game changer. I actually prefer the look of the SUV and it would serve my purpose better, but there's something about the truck that drew me in.
"Game changer"??? "Walls are closing in"? "The end is near"? "Russia collusion "? Electric cars exist since 1920's. They were "game changer" obviously. No 80,000 $ personal transport vehicle can ever be "a game changer". N E V E R.
Me too. Assuming a good financial year an R1T will be my next car. I've always wanted a truck, and used to drive a company Tacoma TRD in my younger years. They've just simply never been fast enough. That problem is roundly solved I would say
I took the plunge today and subscribed, love the channel, find the Canadian cold so odd as I'm in hot Australia but do love the comedy and honest reviews, please continue!
I generally love you guys’ videos but I think you missed the mark a little on this one. You talked a lot about the driving dynamics, and spent a lot of time talking about the parts of the interior that are the same, but you barely talked at all about the practicality/rear half, which is really the deciding factor for 98% of people between this and the truck. How big is the third row? Does everything fold flat? Do they have any other cool new outdoorsy features in the back?
An R1S is out of my price range for now, but Rivian stock is not. I love this SUV and hope, at least, RIVN stock values go way up with their awesome trucks!
15:41 if that is in fact how unstable this thing gets over an asymmetric road imperfection, NO software update will fix it. This looks very much like a suspension geometry problem (perhaps insane bump-steer?) that unsettles the vehicle laterally as much as it does vertically. My guess is the suspension was conceived to operate normally (read: safely) at a much higher ride height, and the slammed lower position was added later in development, possibly as a way to reduce drag. Bump steer geometry issues might also explain the tail-happiness of the chassis under turn-in at speed. Bump steer which adds steering angle with compression will also reduce steering angle with extension, so body roll will mechanically increase steering input. It would be very interesting to see if this issue persists at higher ride height settings. For what it’s worth, I suspect the issue exists in the R1T as well, but the longer wheelbase of that vehicle naturally reacts less to these yaw-inducing suspension inputs. Not at all acceptable for any vehicle, let alone a “premium” offering. If I had to guess, a future software update will limit how low the suspension can go.
Great job on the video to all involved! Thanks for making it. I wonder if because this thing is so fast it triggers something in your brain to compare it against sports cars that have a more planted ride. Does it feel more unstable than a Jeep Wrangler does on the highway? What about comparing it directly to a spec'd out Rubicon and a new 4Runner TRD Pro? Include an off-road comparison and it would be on my list of favorite videos ever. I've seen the R1T do things off-road that blew my mind, so I am very excited about what electric vehicles could do for the off-road enthusiasts around the world.
A 7000lbs car that will do 0-60 is 3 secs needs to handle very well or it will catch a lot of people out. With that amount of velocity, a sports car comparison is warranted.
I would like to think that the back story of the Mandarin Jarritos is that someone stuck it here and Thomas had no idea and the expression on his face when he opened the hatch was genuine.
So the SUV is unbalanced or they used the tuning for the R1T for the R1S that didn't take into account for the shorter wheel base and difference in the rear design of it and additional stuff to make it an SUV
I was at a small ranch. We were caught during some very heavy rain. Several inches of rain. I had to drive out of there with my Tesla. I was shocked how well it handles the mud. I never once got stuck. I have had my Range Rover there before in mud and it didn't do as good is my EV. I would love to try the Rivian in those conditions.
All these insanely fast and heavy EV trucks like the R1T and Hummer barreling down highways and through local roads is a scary though. Not to mention other behemoths like the G and Sclade V. The goal of EVs used to be light efficiency. Now it’s who can go the fastest with the largest and heaviest battery pack.
I think this stems from the cool-EV image chasing that Tesla started and is a swing in the totally opposite direction of “dorky vehicle” that EVs used to have. I’m still waiting on someone to make “an car” EV that isn’t obsessed with its EV-ness, and hopefully the Equinox EV does that
@@msdos32 imo the f150 lighting seems to do away the 'EV-ness' since it's literally an F150 body with a few changes in the interior. It's that boring lol. Would love to own one, but the range of it is abysmal for my use.
@@RandomCommenter-qu2oc Before Tesla modern EV's were usually weird little commuter cars that were sluggish and played too far into the "eco friendly" aesthetic. Tesla made normal looking EVs that are very quick and can keep up with or outrun sportscars at the stop light. They are minimalist in design, but they're not like early Nissan Leafs or many hybrids that tried to chase an eco-friendly futuristic appearance with silver and blue interior plastics and little leaf symbols plastered everywhere. I definitely believe that the Tesla fanbase is often incredibly annoying, but credit due where credit's due, Tesla did bring fast EVs with practical ranges to mass production.
@@profkeenan I’m sorry to hear that lol. At least the r1T off road capabilities come in use navigating some of the worse roads in the country. #govtpriorities
@@profkeenan I watched a real world review where they drove through New Jersey. All it took was one charging point en route out of order to create chaos for the reviewer.
Carplay behaves differently depending on your infotainment system. Updates I get on my iDrive (2023) system don't reflect in my [older] Toyota, for instance. What you're experiencing in a press car isn't reflective of its update rate. There are also manufacturer-specific limitations. The call button on the Prius system doesn't work unless you're being called. You also can't use the keyboard the moment you engage drive until you stop, not an issue in the iDrive system. The same applies to Android Auto, but to a lesser degree, mostly regarding stability varying across systems with different patch levels.
The thing is, when you explaining some unpractical features that R1S provides, while sitting one of best designed, cool and comfy looking interior with some cool smart tech, I feel like the R1S makes you love itself anyway.
Even though the R1T maybe a better vehicle, I think some of the context of this vehicle was lost in the comparison. Obviously driving dynamics was not one of those things and hopefully it can be fixed up with software and it's not baked into a flawed chassis. You'd buy the R1S to move people and luggage. With the 3rd row, how much trunk space do you have? Do the seats fold flat? These are some of the questions that weren't answered.
@@mcnillerandsons7906 Oh really, since it's all documented, maybe I shouldn't watch any reviews. FFS I'm giving constructive feedback on the video, thank you very much.
Is the oversteering the lane/assist control ? I noticed this on my new R1S. I talked to Rivian and they recommended I shut it off via the main screen. I then had much improved handling.
It looks like an electric Wagoneer. I am not in the 100k electric car market, but if you are looking at a Tesla (no truck yet) or Lucid, this seems like a value.
I make good money, and as I watch modern car reviews I can't help but feel priced out.. Glad I own my car, and won't be getting anything any time soon 🙃
Same, just bought an old h3t alpha with locking diffs on 35s for wayyyy less than a fraction of anything new and it has a 5.3 that you can get parts anywhere. Sure new cars are nice but I get so worried about all this long term reliability and also the price point they start at.
I'm getting suspicious that EV's are a way to charge an astronomical amount in the eventual move to a subscription model. The new Silverado tops out at well over 100k. Whoever heard of a 6 figure Silverado? And this Rivian doesn't even have carplay for the astronomical price.
Don't feel bad. Its not you not having enough, the market is just straight disgusting. $8k for a 1992 corolla with 80k miles... Its not that you're priced out, people are just taking on crazy debt to buy cars. Stay smart, don't buy now, prices will come down. If you get a persistent itch to drive a certain car, rent it on turo for a day to get it out of your system.
@@57precision I'm thinking that too. So many people are used to leasing or financing a car, when they eventually switch to a subscription based model people will lap it up because it won't feel different. Then we'll hear how subscriptions mean you don't have to deal with the costs of repairs and ownership which is a plus while the same people continue to pay $500-1500 a month for an electrical box with wheels.
Same complaints about the interior and driving that Tom had I had during my test drive. One screen for every function is NOT the answer. Nothing wrong with buttons. Pulled my deposit as a result of the test drive. Will wait for a hybrid Defender or Discovery.
They can’t even keep the lights on here in the southeast during the cold front a couple weeks ago… They’re pipe dreaming if they actually think the infrastructure is ready to charge an electric vehicle in every garage. But then again they don’t care as long as suckers are willing to keep enabling these manufacturers and dealers so they can keep on scalping there customers. The automotive industry is in a sad sad place…
Okay, we may need a hot ones episode that starts with, "And I'm James" just before eating 10 smokin' wings, while Thomas commentates James's pain for 20 minutes.
The R1S is also the ONLY mid size SUV EV on the market until at least 2024. Everything else is compact or the oversized hummer. The closest match in 2024 is the Kia KV9. This really is innovative seeing as ZERO major manufacturers can currently match or beat the offering. Compact SUVs don’t work for growing families with kids and dogs. Regarding driving dynamics, it’s an off-road SUV. Compared to wranglers which feel like tanks that float on the road I’m sure this is phenomenal.
EQS, Tesla Model X and perhaps a BMW IX. All of the considered electric SUVs similar in size. None of the them exactly like for like and in this group the R1S is the best value and the only one with off road chops. But I do feel they would be cross shopped by many.
You may have noticed that there isn’t a sketch in front of this video. Well there IS a sketch, but RUclips banned it… so we had to remove it before the video went out. BUT, we are going to attempt to post it to Instagram @thethrottlehouse later today. So go follow us there, and let’s see if Zuckerberg is a bit more forgiving than papa RUclips. 😂
WTH RUclips!!?
Could you also provide an alternative please?
For the people who don't have insta.
Love ya videos btw
@@joyalpatel6000 I agree, I am not going to sign up for Insta just to watch a video.
@@fivespeed3026 just.. dont sign up?
Why, did you make fun of a protected group?
I will never get over James hitting his head on the i8. Gets me every time
I’m not sure how long ago this video was made, but Rivian recently did an OTA update that, among other things, recalibrated the suspension. My R1T rides even better now and is more settled over poor roads. I’m sure it’s the same for the R1S. They also added a setting that automatically lowers suspension when put in park. Nice for shorter people or loading things in bed.
that's good to hear. i drove a T this summer and found it porpoised a lot over rougher roads. didn't feel so good.
Hahaha talk about deja vu. This is the exact same shit people were saying about Teslas in 2018. Everything could be fixed with just a software update, surely.
the suspension needs an OTA software update to be comfortable....welcome to 2023
EV manufacturers can't make functioning car. It all feels just like beta products that we have to test for years... It's a shame
@@MrRandomguyTom It is literally a functional vehicle, one that multiple reviewers have agreed is quite great in many aspects, with the R1T even more so.
What are you talking about?
“Tesla bronco defender” is just spot on
Tesla bronco Jeep defender
Exactly, it has the build quality of a Tesla, the questionable durability of the Bronco and the reliability of a Defender 🤣
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+ wagoneer
@@ryze9153 what about Land Ford F150?
As a R1S pre order holder I really do appreciate you guys pointing out all the flaws in the suv , most of the flaws can be fixed within time . Thanks
I still think it's amazing how well these things ended up being made, especially for such a new maker. MKB was talking about how classic supposedly tough SUV maker Hummer let him drive their new EV and were like don't do this, don't do that, don't x1000 things. Meanwhile Rivian was like here's ours... do your worst! Just try and break it!
Maybe cause the hummer is rare and of high value while the rivian is in full production
maybe u shouldnt get your information from car reviews from channels that have nothing to do with vehicles lol.
As an actual employee of rivian I love watching things like this to show our product out there on the road and how well it goes thank you for everybody who's seen this and purchase one of our vehicles all of us at the manufacturing facility appreciate it greatly !!!!
R1T owner here since November. I've got zero complaints so far
Keep it up. Expand and learn and improve. You have a huge advantage over Ford and GM just by being first and learning early.
Listen, I’m just here to say that you two are quickly becoming as entertaining as the original 3 from TG, and that is a good thing.
Considering this is just two dudes and no TV production money, not too shabby at all.
@@AMPATL wouldn't say that! Yes nowhere near tv budget but they have a few more people on the team not counting editors
@@AMPATL better than Carwow and Topgear 2022 shows?
@@shahzebnasir4692 Rivian R1S is like a hybrid combination between Bronco and Tesla Plaid.
@@purwantiallan5089 Top Gear with Clarkson Hammond and May is impossible to beat!! Have not watched the new TG.
I've had my R1T before the price hike, and here's some of my takeaways. The steering wheel can be adjust faster by tapping your name in the top left. The camera quality has gotten better with one of the latest updates. The range is surprisingly consistent. Rivian rep told me I'd get 280 because of my offroad tires, but I dont get less than 300. The speakers are amazing, the speed is fantastic, the handling is amazing, and the steering is better than most sports cars. The downsides are that the maps is complete garbage, camera quality still isn't on par with others. The turning circle is garbage, and the air suspension makes weird noises.
New update makes my map better. I don't know about suspension, mine is fine. Put in soft and it's like my model s.
God review thanks
@julian keenan Mines fine even driving at 100+, it just makes weird noises when going from lowest to low, anything else its great.
I was about to mention the steering wheel and mirror adjustment just by clicking the driver's name on the screen. Thanks for bringing it up
And "price is right"? Show us how rich you are. Did you get your "tax rebate" you poor thing? You surely deserved it somehow. Taking from poor to give to the rich is USA's favorite left-wing idea.
Despite not being a truck person after seeing both the R1T and R1S several times now, I came to the same conclusion, I would rather have the truck too. I really like the truck, especially in blue.
Mee three. Can't wait for them to get affordable enough for me to own....in about 2045 I guess. Gah.
Was next to a truck in my ram 1500 the r1t looked pretty tiny
The cabin and bed are small, it’s not a full size truck that’s for sure. Around town a full size truck borders on too big IMO.
Same
Suv is only good looking one. Truck looks like Tacoma mixed with maverick.
To adjust the steering wheel position and side mirrors, you can access the Profile Panel at anytime by tapping in the top left Profile icon. That way is 2 steps no matter where you are in the system. The four steps you took is an alternative method.
As one of the very early adopters, (11/29/2018) I initially wanted the R1S. Later, after learning of the delay of the SUV, I switched to the truck. I cannot express how happy I am with my Compass Yellow R1T! Tracked it a few times and got consistent 11.4 second runs at 110 mph. Too bad they limited the top speed to 110 mph. It prevents me from doing an 11.2 second run! The limiter shuts the truck down about 200 feet from the end of the 1/4 mile.
There is updates that raise the limiters
Compas yellow is 🔥
More like one of the very few adopters.
It's the same issue on the Hummer EV. There aren't many tires that can handle that amount mass going that quickly... as yet ;)
What does it cost to fill up. I've seen the pickup truck hit about $75 for roughly 85% charge for some RUclipsrs.
you guys are the greatest. Recently found your youtube channel (this week) and have already watched one year of content from you (not to say you guys don't have much content, because you do, I just can't stop watching). Your love for all these cars and the intuition/analyzes you bring to the table is so intriguing. I wish you had more classic cars though. Being an American teenager, I love old classic muscle cars. But keep it up your work is great.
I own a 2022 Tesla Model S Long Range and a 1999 Land Cruiser 100-Series. I drove a Rivian R1T and it felt like an electric Land Cruiser. Absolulty amazing!
the “pardon me sir” and absolute care to not disturb the bee 🐝 ❤
As for the spice and sauce thing, I’m 100% with Thomas on that, my ancestors were terrified of flavor. And as a result, even bbq sauce has a bite to me. God forbid I eat buffalo anything, I’m stuck in the bathroom the entire next day.
Every time I watch a Rivian review (R1S & R1T) I’m blown away how good these vehicles seem to be. Only fault I can find is that the range seems to be a tad bit low on the lower end models, but the price remains high.
Charging stations a problem?
It can’t tow long distances. Let’s face it, people buying these vehicles aren’t buying them because they are trying to help their environment. They’re buying them to say I don’t pay a ridiculous amount in gas prices right now. Once they make the switch it’ll go right back to the normal. Electricity is going to cost as much as gasoline because reasons. People also don’t mention the fact that these big electric vehicles have GVWRs that are equivalent to ambulances and medium duty flatbed trucks. They’re as dangerous, at the speed limit, as ICE vehicles are going 25 over the speed limit. Making an rc car to scale isn’t impressive.
@@smackledorfmcsweencalling EVs RC cars just made it clear that everything you said is nonsense.
what no cool intro ?
Blame RUclips for flagging it to be removed.
They posted it to their Instagram, it was a little racy but pretty tame all things considered. RUclips just arbitrarily decided to be puritanical.
@3:20 Hi James, a construction engineer here. Cement is the binder in mortar, a type of concrete. In contact with water, it enters into a chemical reaction, as a result of which the mixture hardens, turning it into concrete. So the highways are made out of concrete! :)
I love how Thomas' voiceover at 6:22 clearly shows James is driving the shot.
Who knew the best way to make Top Gear USA actually work, and be exceedingly close to peak Jeremy/James/Richard era Top Gear UK, was to use a brit in canada and an actually canadian duo. Love your content!
And when they added Chris Harris in a few videos. That was the top gear we need right there
I paused the video and hopped over to Insta first so I get to watch the review in the order the team intended. You won’t be disappointed.
It’s crazy how excited I get when you guys upload a new video!
Me too, my favorite is when they raced a Charger Hellcat with a Lucid. SO AWESOME!!!
This is the earliest I’ve ever been to a TH upload, it’s thrilling
There’s a 2 button way to adjust steering wheel. Click on your profile name in the top bar, then click steering adjust and you can do it quickly :)
No matter what I can't be convinced about interior quality and ergonomics of a car which is all cheap tablets, no matter how responsive they are. Not having physical buttons is cutting corners. Great video from you guys as always!
Tablets are more expensive than physical buttons so I doubt they do it because they're cheap.
@@dakotawoodruff2622 most of modern cars have both the tablet and the buttons, so putting more functions in the tablet is definitely a cost saving move
@@dSCasp3r Except functionality if you load more into the tablet for main controls the more processing power and more programs and services will be needed to be ran, meaning even more money needs to be put into the screens.
We all know EVs are fast (for the most part). So as a request for 2023, can you also tell us how well they can stop?
My calipers could stop a B2 Bomber. They are insane stoppers.
Well enough that the government is now worried about crashes with heavier EV’s 😂
@@RidingWithBobby It's an issue. Fast and heavy is, uhm, something to do with that force equation. It's great for me, bad for everyone else in an ICE.
The R1T stops from 70 mph in 177 feet on all terrains, shorter on other tires. It has excellent brakes.
@@JulianKeenan Lets be real here, there are plenty of dangerously heavy and fast ICE trucks out there, especially the RAMs and F150s of the world are a menace to anybody not also in one.
Excited that Rivian caught on so quick…I’ve seen so many of them on the road, not one of these yet…yet
They caught on so quick 1- because Tesla dropped the ball with their pickup truck. That’s what people were waiting for and 2- Ford and Chevy took forever to build their electric truck.
With that being said, I’m starting to think that Fiat/Chrysler/Mopar (Dodge) should buy Rivian. I think the R1T would be an incredible platform for an Electric Dodge Ram and the R1S as a great platform for the Durango or Jeep Grand Cherokee.
@@NSUScooter I agree, and could definitely see that happening
You're almost right about some people eating them in cereal for breakfast haha. Here I am watching the video while eating chilaquiles verdes made with serranos for breakfast. Great video as usual you guys are killing it.
In between uploads I will come back and just check that if anything was uploaded cause this channel is amazing
I really like the Rivian R1S, and I'm even looking forward to owning one... but I do agree that the called out flaws need to be improved and resolved. I am anxious to buy my Rivian later this year hopefully
Every time I watch a Rivian review (R1S & R1T) I’m blown away how good these vehicles seem to be.
You guys are the best in the industry at what you do. Production, quality, comedy, boyish good looks lol. Great job from a fellow Canadian. Moms British. Dads Italian. First generation Canadian 🇨🇦
I saw one yesterday on the highway I was unaware that they released it so had to speed up to make sure I wasn’t seeing stuff but it’s a beautiful car.
RIVIAN: Because you may need a flashlight.
Thomas: "Nature. How does it work?"
James: "Parkour."
This is the content I come here for. Thanks!
Hey guys, when was this filmed? Rivian very recently released an OTA that drastically changes suspension settings and actually makes Sport mode bearable and not as bouncy as before, just stiff.
Yes I’d love to hear that the ride quality issues have been improved. From various Rivian forums I believe that it has
@@425681 My R1T allows me to select soft suspension. It is so F%^&ing smooth.
The OTA sorted this out. I have an R1S and it is killer. I do agree that the noise on highway is significant. The car is a beast.
@@rforegger thanks for sharing that the OTA works!
@@rforegger Rob Foregger, this Rivian R1S imo is a 10/10 for sure.
If I could afford it, I'd get the truck just because it's so practical for outdoorsy activities. Imagine going to the beach or the woods with all the goodies you need ready to be unloaded. 😁
The R1T is sick.
Won't be practical to tow anything with. The Ford F150 Lightning for example can't tow anything big for more than 10 minutes before the battery needs charging. Complete farce.
@@VintageFordChannel Excellent detailed response. Informative and helpful
And run out of batteries juice 👌
Struggling to reconcile "it's dangerous and oversteers too easily" with "we like it".. (loved James' face discovering a Jarrito in the trunk - it's all in the comedic details)
Sounds like it doesn't have ESC. Electronic stability control.
In sport- it prob allows some slide. Apparently they updated the suspension & steering since this video too
I love the 6:20 switch to external shot during Thomas' test and you just see James face behind the wheel
I'm starting a petition to watch Thomas eat spicy things!
Minor quibble at the beginning - "...a flat bed..." means something specific - it means a truck chassis/cab with *JUST* a flat sheet as the bed. No walls on the sides, no gate on the back. The R1T is absolutely *NOT* "a flat bed" truck. Its bed walls are absolutely integrated and not removable, since its a unibody where the cab and the bed are a continuous shell.
Yes, the R1T has a pickup bed. But it is not "a flat bed."
As an owner of rivian stock, I'm dying for this thing to be a success.
Same.. its been a bumpy ride !
From what i heard the problem isnt how good the car is and more how many they can ship
Same here! My average is just under $19. Hopefully it gets large enough and then does a 4 for 1 split 😁
@TwinTurbo Ray or even wallrides often.
@@DavidBrown-bs7gg as bumpy as Vector M12.
That feather on the headrest is the real star of this video... 😂✌🏽
Anyone notice at 11:09 when they switched the screen to the camping one an R1T flashed up on the screen before almost instantly going back to an R1S?
I think they need a little more software development time on this thing.
Aahhhh, someone else noticed :)
11:08 😉, absolutely unacceptable, especially at this price range.
ha, yeah
That's a bug 😁 Hopefully Rivian can fix it
@@vofking nope. Scirocco V6 can.
Yes, been waiting for you to feature the R1S!
I'm very surprised that nobody mentioned what happened on the display screen in the car. If you go to 11:07 and adjust your playback speed to 0.25, you will see that the screen glitches and shows the pickup truck model first before switching to the SUV model at about 11:08 lmaoo.
The sketch is definitely worth the trip over to instagram.
I would get this over the truck version ,Rivian are starting to be the solid ev car maker not fancy ,just always consistent
We'll have to see how they hold up after years of use. They might only last to the end of the warranty period before absolutely falling apart. Rivian the company is also relatively new. They have money coming in from Amazon but they're still essentially a startup. If they burn through their reserves and go out of business in a few years then who's going to service their cars?
@@bwofficial1776 The warranty period is 175,000 miles. 🤯
@@bwofficial1776 EV battery warranties are ridiculously good. Never find an engine with a 120,000 mile + warranty
Quickly becoming one of my favorite youtube channels.
Chances are Rivian made the R1T to be a truck, and just changed the body for the R1S, and didn't recalibrate it for the shorter wheelbase. So they dialed in the R1T, and mailed in the R1S.
Saved a hundred million dollars.
I have had one for a few months and saw this review prior to collecting mine which had been on order for about a year and a half. it is bumpy and twictchy .....but over a couple of thousands of miles, it has become considerably smoother. Igues the suspension has to be broken it to some degree. I use the low setting in height and all purpose drive with low regen and it drives really well. In sport, it remains fairly bumpy on uneven pavement. Still a great drive/ride
Awesome job guys! The steering adjustment is actually easily accessible if you touch your profile picture on the top left. 😉
I was thinking that might be the case, given Tesla has similar shortcuts.
As a European who's getting on a bit, I can't unsee that head-on this is a dead ringer for the Renault 8 of the 1960s.
Absolutely love my R1T to live with daily. Totally agree on the R1T being more of a game changer. I actually prefer the look of the SUV and it would serve my purpose better, but there's something about the truck that drew me in.
LOVE my R1T. Traded in my S and I am SO EXCITED. Love it. These guys give a really weird review.
"Game changer"??? "Walls are closing in"? "The end is near"? "Russia collusion "? Electric cars exist since 1920's. They were "game changer" obviously.
No 80,000 $ personal transport vehicle can ever be "a game changer". N E V E R.
Me too. Assuming a good financial year an R1T will be my next car. I've always wanted a truck, and used to drive a company Tacoma TRD in my younger years. They've just simply never been fast enough. That problem is roundly solved I would say
I took the plunge today and subscribed, love the channel, find the Canadian cold so odd as I'm in hot Australia but do love the comedy and honest reviews, please continue!
I generally love you guys’ videos but I think you missed the mark a little on this one. You talked a lot about the driving dynamics, and spent a lot of time talking about the parts of the interior that are the same, but you barely talked at all about the practicality/rear half, which is really the deciding factor for 98% of people between this and the truck. How big is the third row? Does everything fold flat? Do they have any other cool new outdoorsy features in the back?
The black & white cutbacks to the RT1 remind me of the bad portions of those late-night infomercial commercials 😂
Bloody hell! PLEASE do Hot Ones! Thomas can tap out if he wants…Please!
LMAO I saw the intro on Instagram, you guys are SAVAGES! 🤣🤣🤣
So I wonder how long the tires last on these things?
An R1S is out of my price range for now, but Rivian stock is not. I love this SUV and hope, at least, RIVN stock values go way up with their awesome trucks!
I know, without even watching, that this will be a stellar review. Keep it up folks!
Just because of: "... and I'm James" you guys deserve a like
I love the look of this and the truck twin
15:41 if that is in fact how unstable this thing gets over an asymmetric road imperfection, NO software update will fix it. This looks very much like a suspension geometry problem (perhaps insane bump-steer?) that unsettles the vehicle laterally as much as it does vertically.
My guess is the suspension was conceived to operate normally (read: safely) at a much higher ride height, and the slammed lower position was added later in development, possibly as a way to reduce drag.
Bump steer geometry issues might also explain the tail-happiness of the chassis under turn-in at speed. Bump steer which adds steering angle with compression will also reduce steering angle with extension, so body roll will mechanically increase steering input.
It would be very interesting to see if this issue persists at higher ride height settings.
For what it’s worth, I suspect the issue exists in the R1T as well, but the longer wheelbase of that vehicle naturally reacts less to these yaw-inducing suspension inputs.
Not at all acceptable for any vehicle, let alone a “premium” offering. If I had to guess, a future software update will limit how low the suspension can go.
Great job on the video to all involved! Thanks for making it. I wonder if because this thing is so fast it triggers something in your brain to compare it against sports cars that have a more planted ride. Does it feel more unstable than a Jeep Wrangler does on the highway? What about comparing it directly to a spec'd out Rubicon and a new 4Runner TRD Pro? Include an off-road comparison and it would be on my list of favorite videos ever. I've seen the R1T do things off-road that blew my mind, so I am very excited about what electric vehicles could do for the off-road enthusiasts around the world.
A 7000lbs car that will do 0-60 is 3 secs needs to handle very well or it will catch a lot of people out. With that amount of velocity, a sports car comparison is warranted.
Hot ones Throttle House edition!!!!!!!! If he doesn't want to do it with you then I will.
I would like to think that the back story of the Mandarin Jarritos is that someone stuck it here and Thomas had no idea and the expression on his face when he opened the hatch was genuine.
Probably a callback to the banned sketch.
@@WatanabeNoTsuna. JoJo, the Rivian R1S looks like a hybrid combination of Tesla and Ford Expedition.
@@purwantiallan5089 Uhhhh... Thanks for the information, I guess? 🤔 🤷🏻♂️
That music .... 🎶 🎵 👌
Great job
So the SUV is unbalanced or they used the tuning for the R1T for the R1S that didn't take into account for the shorter wheel base and difference in the rear design of it and additional stuff to make it an SUV
The intro video on insta is hilarious 🤣
Your creativity doesn't rest.
I love the look of this truck
"My love for this truck never existed." ..Thomas you are brutally honest....savage in a polite way.
Another excellent review!
I was at a small ranch. We were caught during some very heavy rain. Several inches of rain. I had to drive out of there with my Tesla. I was shocked how well it handles the mud. I never once got stuck. I have had my Range Rover there before in mud and it didn't do as good is my EV. I would love to try the Rivian in those conditions.
All these insanely fast and heavy EV trucks like the R1T and Hummer barreling down highways and through local roads is a scary though. Not to mention other behemoths like the G and Sclade V. The goal of EVs used to be light efficiency. Now it’s who can go the fastest with the largest and heaviest battery pack.
I think this stems from the cool-EV image chasing that Tesla started and is a swing in the totally opposite direction of “dorky vehicle” that EVs used to have. I’m still waiting on someone to make “an car” EV that isn’t obsessed with its EV-ness, and hopefully the Equinox EV does that
@@msdos32 imo the f150 lighting seems to do away the 'EV-ness' since it's literally an F150 body with a few changes in the interior. It's that boring lol. Would love to own one, but the range of it is abysmal for my use.
@@msdos32teslas and their owners are dorky idk what you mean
@@RandomCommenter-qu2oc Before Tesla modern EV's were usually weird little commuter cars that were sluggish and played too far into the "eco friendly" aesthetic. Tesla made normal looking EVs that are very quick and can keep up with or outrun sportscars at the stop light. They are minimalist in design, but they're not like early Nissan Leafs or many hybrids that tried to chase an eco-friendly futuristic appearance with silver and blue interior plastics and little leaf symbols plastered everywhere. I definitely believe that the Tesla fanbase is often incredibly annoying, but credit due where credit's due, Tesla did bring fast EVs with practical ranges to mass production.
@@msdos32 nah there still dorky as shit
The longest Jarritos ad I've ever watched 10/10
Y’all need to do a driving test where you drive through New Jersey and hunt charging stations at private residences.
Dial in max charging and that won't happen! PS- I live in NJ and own an r1t
@@profkeenan I’m sorry to hear that lol. At least the r1T off road capabilities come in use navigating some of the worse roads in the country. #govtpriorities
@@profkeenan I watched a real world review where they drove through New Jersey. All it took was one charging point en route out of order to create chaos for the reviewer.
@@TheCloser1 Gotta be tough to live in NJ, most people are too soft.
@@JulianKeenan call it what you want, I’ll stick to my country living where I can shoot my guns off my back porch whenever I want.
11:08 - I love how the screen briefly accidently shows the R1T...
I love the title.
same lol
How often are you moving your steering wheel?
James' blood-sugar was definitely low for the filming of this episode! 😆
Carplay behaves differently depending on your infotainment system. Updates I get on my iDrive (2023) system don't reflect in my [older] Toyota, for instance.
What you're experiencing in a press car isn't reflective of its update rate.
There are also manufacturer-specific limitations. The call button on the Prius system doesn't work unless you're being called. You also can't use the keyboard the moment you engage drive until you stop, not an issue in the iDrive system.
The same applies to Android Auto, but to a lesser degree, mostly regarding stability varying across systems with different patch levels.
The thing is, when you explaining some unpractical features that R1S provides, while sitting one of best designed, cool and comfy looking interior with some cool smart tech, I feel like the R1S makes you love itself anyway.
My dream Rivian EV SUV!! Terrific job bro.
Also I already subbed to your channel bro.
Even though the R1T maybe a better vehicle, I think some of the context of this vehicle was lost in the comparison. Obviously driving dynamics was not one of those things and hopefully it can be fixed up with software and it's not baked into a flawed chassis. You'd buy the R1S to move people and luggage. With the 3rd row, how much trunk space do you have? Do the seats fold flat? These are some of the questions that weren't answered.
Seats fold flat and truck space is documented. Go search it.
@@mcnillerandsons7906 Oh really, since it's all documented, maybe I shouldn't watch any reviews. FFS I'm giving constructive feedback on the video, thank you very much.
Is the oversteering the lane/assist control ? I noticed this on my new R1S. I talked to Rivian and they recommended I shut it off via the main screen. I then had much improved handling.
It looks like an electric Wagoneer. I am not in the 100k electric car market, but if you are looking at a Tesla (no truck yet) or Lucid, this seems like a value.
Wagoneer 12- 13 mpg. 🤣🤣🤣
We still love our R1S, big software updates that make big differences.
I make good money, and as I watch modern car reviews I can't help but feel priced out.. Glad I own my car, and won't be getting anything any time soon 🙃
Same, just bought an old h3t alpha with locking diffs on 35s for wayyyy less than a fraction of anything new and it has a 5.3 that you can get parts anywhere. Sure new cars are nice but I get so worried about all this long term reliability and also the price point they start at.
I'm getting suspicious that EV's are a way to charge an astronomical amount in the eventual move to a subscription model. The new Silverado tops out at well over 100k. Whoever heard of a 6 figure Silverado? And this Rivian doesn't even have carplay for the astronomical price.
Don't feel bad. Its not you not having enough, the market is just straight disgusting. $8k for a 1992 corolla with 80k miles... Its not that you're priced out, people are just taking on crazy debt to buy cars. Stay smart, don't buy now, prices will come down. If you get a persistent itch to drive a certain car, rent it on turo for a day to get it out of your system.
@@57precision I'm thinking that too. So many people are used to leasing or financing a car, when they eventually switch to a subscription based model people will lap it up because it won't feel different. Then we'll hear how subscriptions mean you don't have to deal with the costs of repairs and ownership which is a plus while the same people continue to pay $500-1500 a month for an electrical box with wheels.
Does anyone know if it's any easier to steal an electric as opposed to a traditional combustion engine? I like this one!🤣
About the same but all these cars are 'connected' and you can control it from anywhere with your phone, as well as see its location.
I didn't know I needed ThrottleHouse Hot Ones in my life... but it would be amazing!
I believe there will be a rude awakening this year when there are way more $80,000+ vehicles available than there are people who can afford them.
Same complaints about the interior and driving that Tom had I had during my test drive. One screen for every function is NOT the answer. Nothing wrong with buttons. Pulled my deposit as a result of the test drive. Will wait for a hybrid Defender or Discovery.
TELSA needs to make a BOXY suv like this!!!!! Come on! 😂
Tesla doesn’t make new cars.
Soulless transportation device… like the intro.
Bingo!
Just watched the intro on Instagram. You guys are BRILLIANT!!! Hahahahaha!!!
Ah yes, another electric car to further destroy the planet and raise the price of everything
Ahh yes another retarded comment
Dont pretend you care about the planet if you drive a gas car
@@ethanmcpherson7903 it’s not up to 1 person to decide that
They can’t even keep the lights on here in the southeast during the cold front a couple weeks ago… They’re pipe dreaming if they actually think the infrastructure is ready to charge an electric vehicle in every garage.
But then again they don’t care as long as suckers are willing to keep enabling these manufacturers and dealers so they can keep on scalping there customers.
The automotive industry is in a sad sad place…
Electricity prices are already insane. Imagine how awful it will be when these are mandated 🤮
I was lucky enough to be around one of these. Didn't get to be driven, but it has one heck of a road presence. Love the vid!
Okay, we may need a hot ones episode that starts with, "And I'm James" just before eating 10 smokin' wings, while Thomas commentates James's pain for 20 minutes.
The R1S is also the ONLY mid size SUV EV on the market until at least 2024. Everything else is compact or the oversized hummer. The closest match in 2024 is the Kia KV9. This really is innovative seeing as ZERO major manufacturers can currently match or beat the offering. Compact SUVs don’t work for growing families with kids and dogs. Regarding driving dynamics, it’s an off-road SUV. Compared to wranglers which feel like tanks that float on the road I’m sure this is phenomenal.
EQS, Tesla Model X and perhaps a BMW IX. All of the considered electric SUVs similar in size. None of the them exactly like for like and in this group the R1S is the best value and the only one with off road chops. But I do feel they would be cross shopped by many.