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You're probably a hipster.
We all hate hipsters, right? They seem so smug and arrogant, with their ray bans and scarves and ironic t-shirts. Even those who CLEARLY ARE hipsters still recoil at the label. Embracing irony over earnestness, the key to hipsters is not just what they enjoy, but how they enjoy it. Borrowing from other subcultures, (see: Handlebar mustaches and flannel shirts), hipsters reappropriate these fashion elements as their own. But don't we all do that? Our own fashion came from SOMEWHERE, and certainly has been refined. Do we all have a little bit of hipster blood in us?
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How did the hipster burn his tongue?
He ate his dinner before it was cool.
hah
lol it aint funny but made me laugh
Hm?
Didn't even hear a word this kid in the video said. Too busy staring at his balding forehead and freakish comb-over. Anyway, how do you know you're a hipster? Cuz you dress, eat, and behave like a prissy little gay soyboi.
Funny, did laugh.
I thought Hipsters were the people that were like "I did that before it was popular" with a snarky attitude.
The meaning of labels like Hipster change all the time. Disliking the mainstream is now a small part of the current Hipster label. It works well with the "snarky image" that hipsters have gained.
They did 10 after.
Even watching this video I still do not know what a "hipster" is. To me it seems that hipsters are just "posers" who pretend to be something that they are not because they think it is cool. They act in "Bad Faith" and lack authenticity in their opinions and character. They also tend to be extremely conformist and ride trends.
Jeez... I never thought of myself as a hipster... but after watching this video.. my life could be summed up as "eclectically out of the loop". I have no idea whats going on half the time in culture, and i sorta just pick out the things from various cultures i like and roll with it. just what ive always done because i dont really fit into any one in particular.. interesting
***** thats true. i do really enjoy them. thanks for the compliment
+Goodbye Operator so are you saying that hipsters were hipsters before hipsters were hipsters?
* curls up and rocks back and forth * ouch my brain lol
The fact that you pick out what you like and roll with it makes you more punk. If you do it "ironically" however, as a way to gain attention, that makes you a hipster. And this why cultural appropriation is such a problem. People who do it out of sport make it hard for people who actually enjoy that particular aspect of a culture.
+ScaryPoppinsCosplayShenanigans what dose it mean to enjoy something ironically?
+Skinnymarks you like things just because your the only one who dresses like that, being hipster is for people who need to have attention. which is why they dress and act ridiculously
Hipsters are like bad drivers: they're everywhere, yet no one identifies themselves as one.
The hipster knows what a Jackson Pollock painting is.:Abstract expressionism.
the reason why people hate them is not so much because of their taste in things, but because they are massive narcissists
seek help.
@@Sharperthanu1 I wouldn't tell anyone.
@@Sharperthanu1 normal people know what a Jackson Pollock painting is too .
Stupid shit done by an alcoholic doper during a binge .
So basically: Subculture is about creating and maintaining a norm within your own group. Hipsterdom is about avoiding creating a norm. This then explains why no hipster wants to be identified as a hipster: because there not being a defining trait of the group is the defining trait of the group. The moment you can identify a hipster, hipsters don't exist?
Danny deo *snortlaugh*
Danny deo surely that depends on weather the rope snaps when you push them off the branch.....
I think you just tore a hole in the space/time continuum.
Spencer Kieft :o Sorry! / Great!
Cecilie Lolk Hjort Actually Beat Subculture was and is based on "Being", To live Life and Enjoy it (Carpe Diem) through listening to great Music and Expressing oneself by Writing Poetry, Painting, etc.
As Kerouac Said "“the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars.”
rule one of being a hipster, deny you are a hipster.
Your a hipster go on deny it
im so hipster i saw that looking like a hipster is to main stream so now i dress normally.
so you changed who you are to fit in.... the world weeps.
*****
well i dont really see many people dress "normal" any more. unless you think yoga pants and cow boy boots is normal.
tecdog15 yeah i'm pretty into normcore these days too
Existing is too mainstream. I became an extra planar non macrobiotic organism to fully avoid conforming. I simply am this account. I do not have a physical form outside of the internet
+Margaret A Commonbottom VII Esquire well I'm a interdimantional triangle in the middle of the winter without snow boots that fit so.......... and I'm an asexual heterosexual so..........
Basically I hate any music that has come out within the last few years, and my friends call me a hipster. I have also heard of course that hipsters are the ones that "do things before they were cool"... and now this video gives me a completely new idea of what they are. I don't think I will ever understand
Here's an idea: hipsters don't exist.
Once upon a time, when the cool kids didn't understand why someone liked the things they like (particularly games or learning or books, because most of the cool kids were jocks), they'd call them a nerd or a geek; now the nerds and geeks have become cool and so those words aren't insults any more. So this new word, hipster, has the connotation that you not only like things that aren't cool, but you're pretentious about it. It works really well because it's not just an insult to you, but also to the stuff you like, as if no one could possibly like that with sincerity.
Since I've never met anyone who claims to be a hipster, and I've never met anyone who admits to adopting stuff ironically rather than due to enthusiasm, I'm not sure I believe they even exist. No one has any way of telling whether someone actually is just pretending to like a bunch of disparate things unless they tell you so. It's just the latest word to convey disdain when someone is different.
A hipster is pretentious not because they like something different, but because the choose their beliefs and tastes by what they believe are unique, while in actuality they adopt cliches and tropes associated with people who want to appear different than others. It’s an artificial attempt at personal authenticity, that lacks it entirely.
@@andytim and what makes you or me or anyone else the judge of what is or isn't personal authenticity? Because I can't think of a single person that knows a person that they're calling a hipster. Instead they see a look or bit of eccentricity and assume that said person is doing it to be unique or for attention or what have you. Which in an of itself is being a hipster. Because, my sense of taste is different, so of course no one else could possibly be into that thing I don't like authentically or feel that a thing they like is being devalued because of band wagon jumping. That is just cultural arrogance.
nerds or geeks are not cool, whatever that means
@@S5Dic09 If you don't know what the word means then maybe you're not in a position to judge whether or not it applies to certain people, lol.
I've always thought of a hipster as nothing more than arrogant dismissive pretentiousness mixed with overtly niche cultural identifiers, like clothing/accessories, or ideals/philosophies. Key factor being the arrogant pretentiousness.
Problem is, people throw around the word "hipster" at basically anyone they don't like.But in doing so, they paint all the people who simply like what they like for the fuck of it with the same brush as pretentious twats.
I often get painted that way myself, because I love music. Like... Music is every expression of every emotion to me. So I listen to a wide variety of music and enjoy doing so. People associate their music with their subculture, but I guess what you would call me is a music nerd or an audiophile. However, because of cultural capital people will label me a hipster because of my widely varying musical tastes.
SilenceAngelic I get the exact same thing mate, Im quite into my music :)
Also something worth noting is no one can criticize anything mainstream anymore, without running the risk of contracting the hipster label. Even if the criticism is widely accepted as true, by simple fact of the target being mainstream, you will automatically be seen as a hipster for daring to say anything critical or negative about popular culture.
Honestly, this hipster nonsense is far to convoluted for me to bother with.
SilenceAngelic Nothing like being called a hipster for liking good music eh?
I am just happy to know i didnt find my copy of Mumford & Sons in a Starbucks.. and my love of 50's-late 80's music came from my mother playing all her records when i was younger
This is exactly what I believe a true Hipster is. Without the snobbish, pretentious asshole attitude they are simply part of the Indie sub-culture. This is my opinion on the matter, and in my experience it's been true. Then again I've only met one friend from the Indie crowd, and only a handful of Hipsters.
7CellarDoors This is SPOT ON. I haven't been called a hipster in a long time but from time to time I have been called one just for calling out the mainstream for not trying to progress with sound but instead it's very repetitive and most of the time doesn't contain thoughtful lyrics. So because of me having an honest opinion I've had that term thrown at me. Another reason is I'm a big hip hop head but hip hop has a sub genre generally called "underground" or independent and that's also a target they use on me. I don't like the genre because it's not out there to the pop culture I enjoy it because it isn't the typical sound you hear from the people on the radio.
Labels are nice when you want to find individuals that enjoy the same things as you. But at the same time you shouldn't let them stop you from trying new things :)
Diversity is great, just don't do anything that damages another person and have fun broadening your tastes.
+Illicit 6six6 ok
This comment is so sweet it makes me smile, thank you random stranger!
Jessica mcnallie :D thank you for responding!
but it is not obvious that what is the borderline between these damage and freedom? It is very clear that our best explainations are very inadequate.
Umut Mazlum what
I have always been frustrated with the lack of a sufficient definition for the term "hipster", but this video does a good job defining it.
Seems like nowadays everyone who wears a checkered shirt is considered a hipster. I'm not. I just like checkered shirts. And wear a beanie because it's cold as hell outside.
What happened to being yourself?
ironically commenting
if that's not funny it's because I'm 8 drinks into a case of pbr
That's not irony.
man I don't remember this
春日歩 LOL! How was the next morning? _smiles sweetly_
zemorph42 I remember it being particularly bad. cheap beer does bad things to your guts
I just don't get "hipster". It's so damn ambiguous that it seems for whoever someone doesn't like or agree with, personality or style wise, that they just call them "hipster".
The term now has become a catch all for people who don't agree with something someone else practices or likes. It used to describe a specific subset of people, but the word has all but lost it's meaning now.
Me neither. I was raised around it and I can’t believe I was going around making fun of hipsters lol. I think the label is uncomfortable though, especially since I found out that’s pretty much the category I go into XD. I like to wear beanies, I’m a woman with short baggy hair with long bangs, I like to wear traditional pants and trousers from other countries and cultures with colorful patterns, I like to wear leather jackets and dark denim jackets, I like wearing printed T-shirts, I like wearing doc martens knock offs, because you know, I’m cheap, I like shopping at thrift stores, I like local organic dairy, I like round sunglasses, etc.
To be fair I think people who are so entrenched in normalcy and contemporary society but deep inside doesn’t feel right with it, or just jealous of us for Bing who we truly are so they like to say that we are pretentious and push our ideas on to others when we don’t.
I find that "hipster" has a couple different definitions. The definition I use is that a hipster is someone who adopts various cultural ideas or items that are considered "cool" and uses these to attempt to fit into the group. Pokemon is popular? They like Pokemon. Sherlock? Now they like Sherlock. Anime? Doctor Who? Are you starting to get my idea? I feel as though hipsters are pretenders, or at the very least "half participants." Let's take a look at me. I'm 26, and have been playing video games since I was 2. I STARTED on the NES. I got picked on, beat up, harassed, and generally made to feel miserable, because I liked games, more than I liked sports. I liked Pokemon, so I was a loser and a NERD. I was berated and belittled for the things I enjoyed and I stuck with them... hipsters haven't or didn't, or were too late to have their love of "X" fandom tested the way many of us did. Therein lies my problem.
so because times have changed where people don't get bullied for being a nerd anymore, that means they are a hipster? or because they joined a fandom too late? it just sounds like you're and elitist. that's basically what i got from your last part cause the first part was basically true.
pumpkin1escobar That's not what I'm getting at. I just find it insulting when I hear people talking about how much they love something I do when they just recently started now that it's a popular thing. Even more so when a year ago they complained about how stupid it was. Perhaps I didn't explain myself adequately. Basically, they like it BECAUSE it's popular, not because they genuinely like it. But just because they came in late, doesn't mean they don't truly love it, I just find it harder to believe since they didn't press on through harassment. I've been late to the game on a lot of things too. Splitting hairs, perhaps, and difficult to actually measure, I know.
ConvictedHeart
harassment has nothing to do with how much someone likes something. what if they just figured out about the game or franchise because it became popular? its bad when something becomes popular and people try it and love it? sorry bud but you sound like you're and elitist that hates it when things get to popular.
how do you think people find out about things? when it has alot of press. getting harassed has nothing to do with how much someone can like a game, you got harassed because it was a different time and people thought differently.
maybe you're the hipster because you hate it when too many people like what you like :P
Try reading my second one again. You either skipped over some key parts, or you don't know how to read because I quite clearly allowed for that.
ConvictedHeart yes, i read it well and responded well. i fail to see what is wrong with my statement.
you commented how you didn't like people joining a fandom when its popular because you think they are only liking it because its popular and cool.
you did say some people do like it because they were late, but because they didn't deal with some bullshit or that they had to defend their love of said thing, that only applies to you, you say their love for it will more than likely be false.
it sounds like you can't deal with something being popular and a mass of people liking it, i understand its better when you have a smaller fandom but everything you type basically said "i was here in the beginning, i have to deal with bullshit because i liked this, now that its popular and lots of people like it they aren't real fans because they didn't have to go through what i had to".
people change, people hate things they haven't tried, im sure you've done the same. then they finally try it after bashing it retarded amounts then love it, this isn't unusual at all in the gaming community.
My only issue with hipsters is the liking things Ironically.
That song is Wake up by Arcade Fire.
This was in the description for those of you who didn't read it: " Borrowing from other subcultures, (see: Handlebar mustaches and flannel shirts), hipsters reappropriate these fashion elements as their own. But don't we all do that? Our own fashion came from SOMEWHERE, and certainly has been refined." And that's spot on we all do it. So I think the true irony is how many people for whatever reason truly hate on something that they do themselves.
I think they left it pretty open ended. If they didn't, perhaps you should explain *why* people hate specifically on hipsters. Do all the haters hate them for the same reasons? I don't think it's so simple. To me at least, there certainly seems something uniquely disturbing about hipsters... But I'm very confused by this issue. So I by no means stand firmly on my opinions.
4:01 "People see hipsters as devaluing cultural fashions by cashing in on their capital without *embodying their meaning*"
That line really rings true for me. Maybe it's that their expressive choices don't embody anything -- that they are an expression of nothingness...
Maybe it's that I can't stand people who's main form of expression is sarcasm or irony, [because they can't be genuine/how do you know when they're genuine/are they being genuine about being nihilistic? i can't handle nihilism, so do I care? :P.
All valid concerns I would hope. But what do you think?
The problem I have with hipsters is them "adopting" something ironically that I love sincerely and then mocking me for my sincere love. I mean, seriously, fuck those guys.
Ms18girly
The other thing I've been wondering lately is that if you happen to like something that is associated with hipsters, and since they seem to be universally disliked, they've now given something that you like a "bad name".
Ms18girly yes i agree.
The Elven Jedi It's like they are the parasites of society. They latch on to something and milk it for all the irony they can until it is a rotted husk of what it used to be.
My mate pointed out I'm the slightly overweight punk guy sitting on the electric box in that one black and white pic. That was a good few years back. That pic seems to have gotten around.
That's a good thing to be.
EricLeafericson
I'm just getting up to my fighting weight. :D lol
I like the idea of creating your own culture, and whether that's through pure originality, or through mashing up other cultures, or both. It speeds the process of cultural evolution and complexity.
Thanks for the clear explanation of the hipster phenomenon, its history and current social effects. As an old person, I appreciate it.
It's not accurate, they don't get why people act and believe the way they do, or care about what they do. It's just a few cherry picked observations from a fairly disinterested outsider who doesn't like them much. Like if I described country people as being inbred hicks with cars up on blocks in their front yard. Part of that might be true but it misses the heart of what real people are, and some of it is blatantly and falsely inflammatory.
It was clear to me. Can I buy you some midol?
Thank you sweet old person for trying to understand our generation
I'm a big ole greaser (yeah, I guess like the Outsiders and The Wild One or soemthing) but yet people call me a "hipster". I got a black leather motorcycle jacket, Levi's 501s, black chucks/engineer boots, and the hair. I don't understand. I have a love for Rockabilly and the golden oldies and classic cars. People seem to throw the word "hipster" around to anything that isn't new, or something that they are not familiar with that actually already has an established culture. I thought the word "hip" is supposed to be like "in the know" like you know what's cool right now. Besides, nobody mentions that the original hipsters from the 1940s were mostly just people who were in the latest fashion and liked jazz. This subculture lead to beatniks, which lead to hippies, which most certainly had an impact on a lot of things. That's kind of a long line of influence on other subcultures, you know?
Same thing here. At 54 years old, I still wear Chucks, just as I did as a kid in the 60's, roll up my pants, which I learned from my father-in-law back in the 70's, love classic rock, Brylcreem. Triumph & Harley motorcycles. I am not a "hipster". I'm just being myself - who I've been for decades. The part that I hate about hipsters is the whole poseur thing. Why dress like a lumber jack when in fact - you are not a lumber jack... Why wear clear glasses if you have 20/20 eyesight? Why ride a fixed gear bicycle when multi-speed bikes with brakes are far better for the street? It's all function follows form...
I identify as both hipster and a geek. If you learn about something and have a fair understanding, and you like that thing, you should be able to express your like for that thing, even if other people dont think it fits with the rest of your interests or cultural background. Individuallity to the very end!
I guess by saying there is a little hipster in everyone, the video is actually saying what I think which is hipsters do not exist. They are the projection screen of capitalism's self loathing, a "them" who is never really realized.
Contradictions of the hipster = 1) they love cheap, crappy beer + they love expensive artisinal beer 2) they wear cheap thrift store clothes + they wear expensive, hip brand names 3) they like old stuff that they never experienced authentically + they like the newest only to the point that it becomes mainstream. 4) they are starving artists + they are trust fund brats, and so on.
I live in Brooklyn. I've never seen a hipster. I only see a lot of people of all different backgrounds and classes mixing together. Why look for random trends to box them in and judge them? It makes no sense.
Not sure if this is the place to mention it, but the captions freeze at the point Mike asks viewers to subscribe, so there's no captions for his comment responses, and the captions cover up the comment he's talking about.
On a happier note, I *love* that Idea channel videos have proper captions. You folks are awesome.
I don't really see 'hipster-ness' as a bad thing, I mean I understand how the whole 'cherry picking from other cultures/subcultures' could be frustrating to members of that group(s) but surely it's just a person seeing something they enjoy and deciding to implement it in some way to their life; whether through image or conversation. Enjoying multiple things at once is just how people are. I suppose there is the difference in that there are some hipsters who enjoy an element of a culture through 'irony', but I would imagine that a lot of hipsters enjoy things from multiple cultures in a genuine sense. On a side note I really enjoyed this episode and theory, it was a lot of fun to think about ^__^
It's not so much the cherry picking of things they like from different parts of culture. It's the attitude of the people. However, their music really does suck. Milquetoast garbage.
Hipsters don't drink Starbucks, draw mustaches on their fingers, or listen to Mumford and Sons. Why? Because all those things fucking suck. Also, no one likes everything ironically. That is ridiculous, and would be way too much work. Hipsters are people, not a type of person, who care about art, fashion, science, philosophy, music, food, drink, politics, and culture and like to consciously experience and create those things in ways that aren't always part of what would be considered "mainstream" culture, because a lot of that culture is based largely on generating profit and reinforcing a status quo, which can be generic and stifling. But that doesn't mean they reject all mainstream culture or like it insincerely. They're people who don't feel at all bad or weird about liking Joy Division, Beyonce, and blogs about tapes from Africa because those things are awesome. If someone likes everything ironically, they're not a hipster, they're just an asshole who's trying too hard. And if you listen to Mumford and Sons, you are my mom.
I feel that Nerds and Hipsters do differ in these aspects but, a small more broken version it is simply this: Nerds like Nerdy things because they like Nerdy things and they like to show this liking though there dress, form and acts. Hipsters would like Nerdy things (Or other things such as steam-punk and Lumberjack like style) because it is not the cultural normality or "mainstream" and therefore don't see that passion or "true meaning". This is exactly why Nerds and Hipsters clash. However, we do relate because of the simple fact is EVERYONE has jumped on a bandwagon before to avoid the cultural normality and be apart of the group that isn't apart of the Main group (A bit confusing) Such as hating Justin Beiber, nickleback and even Hating Hipsters. Which leads me to my question; Do we hate things because we hate things? Or is it because everyone else hates it and we our selves feed from it and grow to dislike it our selves?
How do you differentiate someone who genuinely likes and knows about a variety of genres and who thus wishes to visually demonstrate their tastes through clothing accordingly. Every genre has "posers". People who dress eclectically are now synonymous with "poser". But how do you know they don't genuinely like those things by looking at them? Maybe there are just as many posers in the "hipster" genre as there are of punk or hip hop (both are full of people who call themselves by those titles or adorn the uniform without knowing much about it). So how do you tell?
mossy1 This is a great question. I would tell it in the sense of this theorem (? is that the right term?): Does the person in question like wearing those clothes enough to wear them in private when no one else is looking, or do they take them off and then put on other clothes they really like better? For a similar analogy, is the music they proclaim the 'greatest' and blast to other people, really what they like, or do they listen to other music in private and NEVER listen to the 'greatest' music except when fronting for someone else? Is who they are more or less 'real', or is it a persona they have adopted, which they will throw away as soon as it's no longer cool? To me that's the big difference between a person who is a hipster and a person who is actually a maverick.
a hipster does everything the artist does, except art itself.
think about it.
I feel like following hipster trends is not the defining factor of "hipsterness," but rather the frequent calling of attention to your following these trends and/or shaming mainstream trends makes you a hipster.
Also, is being anti-mainstream too mainstream?
In the metal community we have a more effective term for hipster, Poser.
True.
*****
There is no metal community? as in, there is no group of people dedicated to the genre who meet with each other about it? that makes no sense.
Let's hope that these kind of posers lead to something great like the original posers that lead to the need and creation of thrash metal.
I like that there is a "Sand in the Vaseline" album cover in the background.
Only in America...that's why our students are such failures. Worried about what clique they belong to instead of working hard....becoming someone of worth
Yup, that's totally an American problem, rather than a problem that has been around for as long as humanity. I mean, it's not like the lust for status within certain groups of people has been part of every culture, in every country, in every time period. It's definitely a new issue that showed up along with television, rock 'n roll, and the desegregation of tons of different races that shouldn't live in close proximity to each other. See the irony? :P
Excuse me but isn't it also an American ideal that if you work hard you'll become someone of worth? An ideal that obviously isn't true anymore......
formless777 Sorry, but my mom went from a single parent family of seven, paid her own way through the University of Illinois, and worked herself from an entry level position to an executive of an international chemical sales company. Your point is invalid.
Alison Pullen if you work hard enough you might become something your not.
Did I have the definition of hipsters wrong? I thought hipsters were just people who only like things that aren't popular.
***** Nahhh. I mean, some stuff they like is popular. But I think hipsters classify cool with different and unique... I think.
I was a hipster before it was cool.
I liked this comment ironically of course
same
LarsaXL it's not cool
Sam Rp I feel as though you might be missing the irony, there.
LarsaXL bawhahahaha
The picture of Mumford & Sons you showed is literally hanging on my wall right next to me.
The word hipster and hipsters in general have done a complete 360 and now mean stuff that's common, like everyone has a hipster beard now!
You did a good job of defining what people think hipster means, and actually kind of devalued the term. It's a good point that hipsters do things that don't quite belong to a group, and it's weirdly looked down upon for people to be uncategorized, so people categorize the uncategorized with the term, "hipster."
How dare people not fit into a category! Well guess what, anyone who thinks they don't belong to a category is now getting categorized!
People who dont fit the Hipster category are called "Bourgois."They make a good living at it.
Wanna be a hipster? Then click "Read More".
And you failed.
First rule about being a hipster: You cannot intend to be a hipster.
Wanna be Beat (Kerouac and bebop, Ginsberg and Howl) then read On The Road by Jack Kerouac :)
Aaron No. Tryhards do.
Aaron No, tryhards are tryhards.
Aaron No tryhards are hipsters, and no hipsters are tryhards.
BrickBuster2552 i'm pretty sure the first rule is not to admit you're a hipster hahahah
I have already come to accept that I have become a hipster. I spend too much time working to deeply invest in any of the cultures I love sincerely, but I still want to show my appreciation, and apparently that makes me a hipster.
Oh god. I am a Hipster. I noticed everything adds up to me. Wow....
What are you going to do?
***** Have no idea...
Vincent Von Darkward
I'm sure you'll think of something. Its not the end of the world.
***** I know. But still... o-O
regardless there nothing wrong with being "hipster", you just keep doing you.
I think I'm hipster/geek...
I wear lots of mixed stuff. Listen to just about every genre. I like weird art. I do lots of weird stuff. Not like...stuff people want to avoid. Just different than most "normal" hobbies. BUT, I'm very open about it. So does that make me geek hipster?...
I'm the same way, but I wouldn't call myself a hipster. I have hipster tendencies. I like a lot of things that are alternative, not because other people doesn't like them, but I feel like it's more interesting than the other, more popular things out right now, like indie rock and electronica for example. Also I'm not smug.
i think im a hipster too but im nice and im honest in a nice way
Amber Richardson hipsters don't say they are hipsters I thinks you arejustn poser you aren't a hipster you are just wanna be one of them
okay....
I'd say it makes you a unique person who likes whatever you like and isn't afraid to show it.
So, what if I like things that are less popular? I like it and I don't give a shit about what others think. I don't mean to piss anyone off. Like what you want to like regardless of how popular or "hipster" it may be.
That's not actually the point of the video. The problem isn't about liking things that are less popular, the problem is about doing things that are less popular without really giving a crap about it.
wow, you really broke down the definition of a hipster quite clearly and thoroughly. i'm really blown away by how you were able to dig down to the core idea of a "hipster", though i wasn't able to follow everything you said :u
I just subscribed ironically.
Okay, this is a long one, but I'm considered a "Hipster" by many, so stay a while, and listen.
In every "subculture" there's been one common even smaller culture, and that is the one of "posers". Before Hipster, to call someone a "poser" was the biggest insult you could aim at someone seemingly within your subculture who you deemed wasn't really a part of the culture, but wanted to be. Essentially, Hipsters are Posers for the Millennial generation, but we don't call them that very often. And why? Because unlike Posers, who are often attracted to only one subculture and try to emulate the characteristics, fashion, and jargon of one particular group of people, as you pointed out, Hipsters do a wide sweep of subcultures and glean from them the objects that seem the coolest, most unique, and most *identifying* of that culture. (Because acquiring the object that will identify you as being of that subculture is the most important part.) We're prone to hating Hipsters, even over Posers, because Posers are specific to one movement or culture, whereas Hipsters come in and stomp all over everyone's interests with reckless abandon.
However, the danger with our growing disdain of people who swaddle themselves with objects that are cool, unique, and identifying of a specific subculture, is you risk alienating people who may really be of that subculture, and may really like doing those things, and have actually done those things their entire lives thanks to that thing being passed down generation to generation by their ancestors, BUT because there's this obsession with seeking out and calling out Hipsters, plenty of non-Hipsters get lost in the fray, and shunned by strangers who really have no idea what they're talking about.
Case in point: My great-grandmother grew up in the rural South and worked her way up from being poverty stricken to middle class by way of opening her own restaurant. In turn, my grandmother was a very strong, very independent woman, who wore the pants in her home and pushed her children to pursue greatness. Her husband, my grandfather, had a smooth, silky voice like Merle Haggard, and worked for NASA in the 1960's and 70's as a welder. My Mother, their daughter, grew up on my grandfather's renditions of Merle and Johnny Cash songs, and stories of the hard life of a welder. She took those stories and the memories of her childhood, and has turned it into a music career. She currently lives in Memphis and is one of the most sought after folk/Americana musicians in the area. And now me: I grew up on welfare and Goodwill, because my Father was a factory worker and times were hard in the 80's and early 90's for a family of 5 surviving on a factory worker's salary. Accompanied with that, my Mother homeschooled my siblings and I, so we spent much of our childhood writing, painting, dancing, singing, and creating. Now, as an adult and mother myself, I sew, I paint, I write, and I homeschool my own daughter as well. I teeter back and forth between eating a strictly vegetarian or Paleo diet because my mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother all gardened (out of necessity, remember we grew up in the rural South) and passed the value of it onto me, (I didn't have my first Big Mac until I was 19.) However, today I'm married to a real life, Rocket Scientist, who works for NASA (like how I've come full circle?), and as you can expect, is very "nerdy" or "geeky". My home is filled with Star Wars collectibles, original paintings by myself, vintage NASA collectibles, hand-sewn pillows and buntings, and I'm usually listening to folk music at different points throughout the day because, thanks to my Mom, I'm friends with many musicians in the Memphis and Nashville folk scene.
Now, imagine if you DIDN'T know all that about me. Imagine if you've just walked into my house, where I'm canning some tomatoes fresh from my garden, homeschooling my daughter, sewing up a new quilt because the weather's turning chilly, Star & Micey (who did a house concert at my Mom's house) is dancing through the record player, and there's Star Wars prints and collectibles lying about, mixed in with folk art, vintage suitcases, and coffee table books about Van Gogh and Degas.
I know what you're thinking: HIPSTER OH MY GOD HIPSTER.
And maybe I am. But I am also just a product of my raising and my current lifestyle. So, you gotta be careful where you point the Hipster accusations. Sometimes you may hit the mark, and sometimes you may not.
What do you hope to achieve with your comment?
Lecrie
Well, Lecrie, I guess I hope to achieve that people will understand that calling someone a Hipster may not always be accurate, and I wrote a lengthy comment as my attempt to convey that. What do you hope to achieve with your comment?
I wish to let you know that this is a RUclips comment section; the internet. It is no place to throw around your thruths. You'd better put it in a blog somewhere instead. It is less likely to be forgotten and looked upon with disbelief.
Lecrie
I seem to have misplaced my copy of "The Absolutely True And Not Even Slightly Exaggerated Rules Of RUclips". Oh, darn. ;-)
Whatever you do, do it because you actually like it not because it is hip at the time.
kylemasgallo where was this advice when I was 13, it took me three years to discover the awesome life of a geek
I am a hipster and a geek. I don't mind people knowing the truth about me. I love my life and take care of the people around me. If someone is bothered by that, it isn't my fault.
This episode is so hard for me to wrap my head around. I think I'm going to have to re-watch it multiple times. Anybody with me on that?
Long story short a hipster is someone who picks things they think they like but don't really like it."if you play D&D listen to county,rap and Rock,you're a hipster"I am about to flip shit!I love RPG's And FPS,And platformers.I'm the "don't limit your self to one thing per genre" guy.I'm not a hipster,and he's right there is probably not anything wrong with being a histper.but I can't believe he said exploration is hipster...That Royally Grade A pisses me off.
DethGripPG No, a hipster is someone who is trying to be ironic continuously, not the definition of irony. For instance, if someone where to ride a unicycle now he's doing something a hipster would likely do, because its ironic.. But he's not necessarily a hipster.. However, if he wears overalls, has a beard, goes to small coffee shops, and listens to 8 tracks.. Chances are he's a hipster.
Hipsters don't have a monopoly on irony, or being unique.
DethGripPG I don't understand why you think he thinks "exploration" makes you suddenly hipster. As Gary said, doing any one thing doesn't make you a hipster, it takes more than that.
Gary Sanders Questions for you:
1. how do you define irony [in this situation?...]
2. why would simply riding a unicycle be ironic?
3. Why you gotta make me laugh [with your summary of a hipster]?
DethGripPG
As for the only thing I "need" to reply to [#9]: you wrote "I can't believe he said exploration is hipster...That Royally Grade A pisses me off." sooo ya... that's all i was asking you to clarify originally, but i think you did more than enough to demonstrate what kind of person you are XD
P.S. thanks Ms18girly for doing my job for me ;-) it's always nice when the cavalry arrives to lend that extra bit of authority/weight.
The Elven Jedi
My pleasure :)
Im not a hipster, im introverted.
bahaha
I would say hipster fashion was Avant Garde, primarily of the Dada variety. It's experimental, irrational, questionable of taste, & is supposed to make people who look at it uncomfortable.
Funny how the hipster alarm is wake up, but the album art is right behind him. Lol love this dude
I just discovered that I am a massive hipster after years of being terrified of them. I'm a walking cultural mish-mash.
My friend always jokes that i am what hipsters base themselves on. basically i like a lot of really random things but earnestly. which (along with my love of scifi) is why i identify of geek vs hipster... but i can def see an over lap. i think there is a sub group of hipsters you actually like the stuff and pretend to like it ironically lol
How did the hipster burn his tongue?
He drank his coffee before it was cool.
as a person that caters to both geek and hipster culture and has had trouble understanding how they intertwine or oppose, i found this episode EXTREMELY interesting.
I have no idea why everyone hates us. We are hated on because we like different things, wear "different" clothes and like different music. Sorry we are just being ourselves like everyone always tells us to be.
If I remember correctly hipsters who refers to themselves as hipsters aren't hipsters at all
Dude hipsters don't say they're hipsters. Because hipsters are people who didn't try but were still special beyond the norm. Stop trying to be something your not sir.
I like/wear/listen to different stuff, in fact I'm kind of a "metalhead" myself (amongst other things). That's exactly why hipsters and their way of wanting to be different by taking stuff from cultures they know nothing about piss me off. I'm not trying to be mean but they really do.
let's face it, hipsters are a recognized subculture and what they aspire to be is now considered mainstream, so what've they done is created another thing called normcore
Hipsters raised my rent through gentrification but I don't hold ill will because my neighborhood has hotter chicks now. That being said stop coming to the city please.
The taste hipsters have isn't what annoys me, it's their attitude about it.
I actually would say everyone is a Hipster at a point in his life. I myself am a geek but when i think about it i came to this subculture through curiosity and cherry picking. I watched this, played that, picked whatever i found best, but then over time my horizon broadened and i became a "full" geek.
Well... that was 20 years ago, the term hipster was unknown back then, but i think a lot of us got in their respective subcultures this way... cherry picking in diverse subcultures and then finding the one "true" passion with this process
I thought I was going to hate this but it's a careful well-composed explanation. Great job!!
*Lookin' down the comment section... That thar be one dark, deep, practically paradoxical, irony hole.
Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.
Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to dating preferences and traditional "rules" of physical attraction. It is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny. Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair, overly tanned skin, and "Britney Spears tube-tops" are not seen as attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded, and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment are typically found within the hipster subculture.
Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals. For example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e. "distressed"), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer. The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.
Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural "norms" have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can.
I know this is ironic, but I think I identify myself as a hipster nerd. I mean, I'm not trying hard to be different. I just like the themes associated with the hipster culture, like the postmodern art, indie music, technology, etc. Even if you would argue that postmodern art is just a pretentious-liking to a so-called art, it's not the art that I like but its satirical nature. For example, I'm not trying hard to like a million-dollar worth potato photograph. I just find its satirical nature humorous and it's drawing me closer even more.
I see. My guess is that what others categorize as "hipsters" are people whose minds excel in certain things like satirical humor and probably a certain kind of self reflection that the general population has only a little of. Probably would excel at certain kinds of math and certain kinds of lit etc. It's interesting, I like to try to see the world that way. But I only can really see it through someone else's point of view.
My gad this is so good! I am writing an article about hipsters and this is the bomb! This hipster thing totally makes sense right now, thanks! :D
I entirely agree with the statement about the devaluation of the 'neat stuff' when it's just cherry picked. I identify myself as both a gamer and a punk. The gamer emerges from my hobbies, surprisingly; gaming, and the punk from my social views. If I find something interesting or fun in another subculture, I'm not going to ignore it because I don't belong to them, but what I will do is endeavor to learn more about the subculture, so that when someone calls me out for not being the stereotypical punk, for not spiking my hair or screaming, shouting, and acting out, or for not being a gamer because I don't like Call of Duty (seriously... Why do people still buy that crap?) I can justify why I like that aspect. In doing this, I feel I'm also in a position to contribute to this culture.
IMHO the hipster doesn't learn about the culture that they steal from, they just take, without contributing.
Another aspect of hipster-dom that infuriates me, is; the obsession with vintage tech. There is a reason we don't use records any more, they take up lots of space, and they lack the quality of MP3s etc. It is fine to collect them, but don't you dare tell me that they are better. Would you let a doctor from the 20s operate on you? No, because they're not as qualified, or well equipped as a modern surgeon. Technology advances for a reason.
A Top Level Hipster: A Hipster who likes mainstream because not liking mainstream is to mainstream.
it's like in algebruh when you multiply a negative by a negative
What about someone who doesn't like mainstream, because liking mainstream because not liking mainstream is too mainstream, is too mainstream?
MaximRecoil Hipseption.
I'm still not entirely sure what a Hipster is. I mean I think I know what they look like but that changes regularly. What makes you a hipster? Let me just break down what I think it might mean, I guess.
It's the state of wanting to be 'hip' or 'cool'. Obsessiveness trendiness where one attempts to constantly behave or dress in a matter that is considered unusual so as to appear unique. It is not done out of a genuine desire to do these thing but more a desire to affect how others perceive you.
You don't genuinely enjoy those underground, artsy bands or that bitter coffee, you just affect the style because it makes you seem classy. With this comes an inherent smugness, an attitude that suggests you think you're above others because you're a special snowflake and they're all sheep.
Am I close, is that it? Is that why people hate them? I don't know, I've never met actual hipsters, I live in a really small country town.
I think i sort of agree with that deffinition
You don't have to put up with bitter coffee if you use a Chemex coffee maker-- really cool flask-like drip coffee maker with a 40% thicker, conical filter. Cheers to a smooth cup.
A hipster is someone who wants to feel unique and special without following a movement that is either unique or special. They excel at nothing other than looking like tool bags. While they will argue my point to be invalid don't fret they can't seem to grasp the concept of fake, like Kim Kardashians tits and ass.
It's because during this rant which is very confusing he doesn't mention Norman Mailer who created the term in his essay "The White Negro" - maybe look into that
Being a Hipster is not just restricted to liking obscure things, it's mainly about doing things ironically. Muse or Kings of Lean are hardly underground bands. It's about, like you said, not genually enjoying the things they claim to like, it's all about emulating what they think it's artsy, which leads them to behave like morons when they're around the genuine followers of the culture they try to emulate. A hipster would wear a Black Sabbath t-shirt and then give a metalhead wearing a Candlemass one a condescending glair. Culturally moronic attitudes like that is what makes one a hipster.
From my Webster’s dictionary copyright 1997, hipster - 1 a hip person 2 Beatnik: a term of the 1950’s and early 1960’s. And, hip - a) sophisticated; knowing; aware, b) fashionable, stylish
Why put labels on people? Is it to pre judge others and stereotype them? Does that make sense? I like Liberal minded people but I also like Conservative people.Why do we have to convince others that we are better than others?This is the kind of crap that is dividing the country. Just be yourself and respect others. Good idea?
I'm tired of the idea that judgement is disrespect. People want to express themselves while at the same time screaming to stop judgement...then why express yourself? Self expression is like filling out the bubbles on a test that everyone must take to be judged. Judgement is not a negative thing, it is a necessity. Where a gaming shirt? I'm going to judge that you enjoy games and are probably someone I'd like to talk to. Stereotypes are just genres of people that everyone falls into to help figure what type of person you like to associate yourself with. Judgement is not disrespect.
Jessica Autrey
Jessica Autrey Or maybe I don't like games and it was a gift from my nephew, great job on the judgment!." Then why express your self is your question?" Ahh how about to be yourself. You can mirror others to be left alone or be different on purpose for attention but eventually you might shape yourself differently making choices that will affect the rest of your life. Judgement is a necessity I agree, I see it more as an instinct, but opening your big mouth about every little instinctive "judgement" will attract others with negative thoughts that might post their negative "Stereotype" creating a culture of hate others to busy to think about it. So your tired of the idea of judgment being disrespect? Judgement can be positive also I agree but I believe that if you question your your very own judgement then your thinking a step above, But what do I know?
Jessica Autrey Your a Gamer here comes a negative judgement: Your Lazy got no job, Got no success in college and you live with your mother at an age others don't. That was stupid I could think that but I won't maybe you design games or it may just be your day off or your on vacation like me or maybe your just 17. I don't know you and I won't put you into a "Genre".
W'e're living in a pre-global civilization and are still hard-wired to the tribal attitudes we had when we were nomadic hunter-gatherers. It's going to take time for us to adjust. Lots of time.
It's simple. Anyone wearing a minecraft Tshirt or a Kitten Tshirt who is over the age of 12 should be punched in the face.
Peteris Rudzitis Why? Am I taking away your family's livelihood?
Is it bad that your comment made me want to get these just to fuck with people like you?
jgman81 Only if having the fashion sense of a drooling toddler with the class to match is a bad thing. By all means, spend your time and money to wear the modern equivalent of a dunce cap. Announce it to the world, be a beacon unto the dull, the underachievers, the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers who mistake irony for substance.
+jgman81 Further proof of your completely misaligned priorities. The upside is these dim neck-beards will never compete for anything important, so while these losers outwardly revel in their ironic clothing and canvas shoes, deep inside they will continue their course of apathy and a long, slow demise of mediocrity. Never rising to any challenge, never achieving anything to be proud of, thus leaving the rest of society a good example of what not to do.
Leaving RUclips comment section in fear...while wearing a Minecraft shirt at 35.....
i've hated the modern/current form of hipster (as apposed to say, 90s-00s when being hip or hipster was genuine & cool)
it seems they work on deliberately looking ridiculous. then i realised that i like plaid shirts, wear cowboy boots a lot, and currently have a moustache (not a silly, curled around at the ends handlebar tache, and I'm getting annoyed with it & it won't be a lot for much longer than another week).
i was starting to think i was a closet-hipster. but then, i genuinely like cowboy boots (and old west junk in general, hence the tache (inspired by Revolver Ocelot)) and checkered shirts n stuff. whereas hipsters put together ridiculous things to form a non-style, for a deliberate reaction from other people, and forcing themselves to look/be different.
then again deliberately looking different for the sake of rebellion is kind of what punk was, and i wouldn't dare connect punk to hipster. if you saw someone dressed as a punk (over the top spiked hair, plaid shirt, tight jeans etc), would you say they were 'hipster' or 'punk'?
as far as i can tell, its not what is used, it's why it's used. do you wear/do/have the thing because you like it, or because it's deliberately abnormal. (wirelessly connecting a keyboard to your iPad so you can type easier, vs buying an iPad typewriter)
its almost like taking features from already existing subcultures, mashing them together and posing as something new, because its done to get the look of something new, but has no genuine heart behind it.
i keep wondering what hipsters will do when the realise that non-mainstream has gone pretty mainstream already...
I have a large collection of music that I have accumulating for a while. I haven't been serious about collecting music before until my high school years. Before the collection I have been making musical discoveries while in jr. high when I discovered progressive rock (although at that time I referred to it as art rock) that became a huge part of my interest.
I am crazy about rock from the aforementioned progressive rock, hard rock and heavy metal, psychedelia, post punk, a little alternative, ect. But aside from some mainstream acts I have I also discovered some little known and underground acts not just from the UK and America but also from France, Hungary, Germany, Sweden, Italy, Japan, Switzerland and so forth. In that respect I'm a music geek.
People say hipsters are narcissistic and full of themselves, then they call people with beards or people with large glasses or a different music taste hipsters. How do any of those things make people narcissistic?
It's ridiculous, right? They are as bad as the "hipsters" they critcize. They also smugly dismiss and shit on other peoples' cultural tastes. It's no different.
"culture"
You people sound like a bunch of butthurt hipsters.
They are narcissistic and they are into those things, not narcissistic because they like them. And they like making it a point for you to see what it is theyre into.
i would never hire a hipster unless i owned a coffee shop
I've always thought that I was too poor to be a hipster.
I was a hipster before it was so popular.
now I call myself a "hapster" - "has-been-hipster"
Hey! I met that guy that was in the pictures. Mark Hunter! He's is an amazing photographer and so what if he's a Hipster. There's a little hipster in all of us.
Before the video even starts, I confessing that I am a total hipster
After you go through puberty, that'll all changes.
jojo entertainment as soon as u get to high school you'll change...they all do
fucking sociologists, you have a name for each one of us... right?
A Hipster tries to be unique to impress others, a hipster would feel lost if there were not others to parade their taste in front of and feel superior to. A Geek or nerd would be just fine by themselves, enjoying their entertainment choices, not giving a fuck who is or isn't watching.
***** that's true dude its a trend
I seem to remember reading one of psychologist David McRanney's books, I think it was "You're Not So Smart, or "You Can Beat Your Brain", about how we often delude ourselves and are not as logical as we generally think we are. One of the chapters dealt with how we have a tendency to overestimate how much of an individual we are and how much we stand out from the crowd. The chapter starts out with a statement something like "You are a unique individual. There is no one else like you. You are one of a kind. You plough your own furrow. etc., before saying something like "Oh really? Do you live in the Arizona Desert in a tent made of boars tusks? Do you lick other peoples faces at the end of a film in the cinema? etc." (Sorry I don't have the book handy, so these aren't exact quotes!) The point he makes though, is that people tend to overestimate how different they are from the general populace, when in fact 90 odd percent, or so of the time, we are more similar than we'd like to admit. He points out that advertisers exploit this perceived difference to make out that people who use their products are real one offs and "swim against the flow". Next time the adverts are on TV, look at how many tell you about the product they're selling and how many tell you about the sort of person that buys that product. Many of them play heavily on our perceived individuality and uniqueness. I think he also mentions experiments, where people were asked how individualistic they were compared to their friends and acquaintances. Most people rated themselves as being more individualistic, when of course it is unlikely that they can all be right. I think many hipsters are guilty of this delusion and of course, there is a tendency for things that are perceived to be cool and trendy to become mainstream, so many hipsters end up being pretty similar. I also find the way they seem to think they're so unique and shit cool, pretty irritating and some of the aspects of hipsterdom pretty moronic "Look at me! I'm riding a penny farthing bike!" (There's a reason that the penny farthing fell out of use in the early days of cycling! "Look at me! I'm eating at a cornflake bar! (So you'd rather pay through the node for a bowl of cornflakes, than eat a bowl, costing next to nothing at home!)" Look at me! I'm drinking craft gin out of a jam jar!" (If the shape of a jam jar was the best shape for a drinking vessel, they would have evolved into that shape!) "Look at me! I look like a complete tosser, but it doesn't matter, because it proves that I'm more of an individual than you are!" I know a guy (not a hipster, but perhaps with the same mind-set in a way), who wears skirts and dresses, despite being straight. Perhaps he really does like them, but I always have the suspicion, that if men wore skirts and it was only women who normally wore trousers, he would be wearing trousers. He also doesn't seem too upset when people shout stuff at him. I get the impression he would rather have that reaction, than people just ignoring him. He probably overestimates his own individuality, as, apart from his attire he is pretty normal I would d defend peoples right to wear whatever they want to the hilt, by the way, but I am always suspicious of their real motives. At least he looks more of an individual than the average hipster!
Blah blah blah.
Stop thinking so much and hate everyone equally.
bbcasting That is my motto.
bbcasting Who are you telling not to think? You do realize that's what you're doing, right? You're telling someone not to think.
Stop saying my last name.
“Hipster” is a term co-opted for use as a meaningless pejorative in order to vaguely call someone else’s authenticity into question and, by extension, claim authenticity for yourself.
It serves no conversational function and imparts no information, save for indicating the opinions and preferences of the speaker.
Meanwhile, a market myth has sprung up around the term, as well as a cultural bogeyman consisting of elusive white 20-somethings who wear certain clothes (but no one will agree on what), listen to certain music (no one can agree on this either), and act a certain way (you’ve probably sensed the pattern on your own).
You can’t define what “that kind of behavior or fashion or lifestyle” actually is, nor will you ever be able to. That’s because you don’t use “hipster” to describe an actual group of people, but to describe a fictional stereotype that is an outlet for literally anything that annoys you.
The twist, of course, is that if it weren’t for your own insecurities, nothing that a “hipster” could do or wear would ever affect you emotionally. But you are insecure about your own authenticity - “Do I wear what I wear because I want to? Do I listen to my music because I truly like it? I’m certainly not like those filthy hipsters!” - so you project those feelings.
Suffice it to say, no one self-identifies as a hipster; the term is always applied to an Other, to separate the authentic Us from the inauthentic, “ironic” Them.
I find it hard to respect a man that is wearing a scarf, I can't listen to banjo music, and pouring coffee is not interesting nor a career.
Yessssss cultural capital theory *___* I've read some subculture theory and it comes up a lot and explains so much! One article I read also used it to explain why women often have/used to have such a low status in fandom (eg. why we associate pop music/ superficial music with women and stuff like metal/ rock with men), because of how different forms of capital can be converted into cultural capital, and at least in the past, women had less leisure time and economical capital to convert it into cultural capital. It's also why the idea of "fake geek girls" is so persistent. It's because the people who accuse others of being "fake geeks" think that these people skipped the part where they had to actually earn their status in the community (by accumulation of cultural capital) but still get the attention.
Nerd fighteria!!!!!!!
ironically, anyone who hates on hipsters (including me) is also a hipster. sure we all like to be original, but i think the reason we hate them is because of our own personal arrogance. we're all people who are born to be hipsters from the beginning. there are bad hipsters who make being original a competition, which is not cool. just because something is not your thing doesnt mean you should mock or sneer at a person for being that way. so if anything, i like hipsters. just not the ones who are mean to others
smugness is the worst quality a human being can possess. and i've never come across a counter-culture so arrogant and narcissistic as this one. i think the backlash against hipsters has been precisely for this very reason, the smugness.
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Not just hipsters... EVERYFUCKINGBODY is an arrogant piece of shit. For instance, I dont think hipsters invented the rule that you cant call yourself a hipster. FUCK IT. Im a hipster because I own ironic clothing , like drinking miller high life and collect records. Oh but I dont pc game which is also ironic that we dont brand the nerdy pc master race as hipsters. In fact, if we really wanted to get rid of these people, we first need to change ourselves
iggy082
Then again, I enjoy what I do. But then im not a geek because im not super obsessive over a particular genre. YAY i found a way out of being labeled
mr. awesome yes, the term 'hipster' has turned into a catch-all phrase that lumps everyone together. but only because the hipster fashion style has caught on and everyone now dresses like a hipster. the hipsters i'm referring to are the hipsters who are 'better than you' because they found this artist first, or this hole-in-the-wall restaurant first, etc. it's baseless arrogance from a generation with ZERO ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
so, what you say mr. awesome is that the word hipster should be used to describe a person who embodies in a exaggerated way one of makind's most distinguishables and yet annoying characteristics?
To be honest, I think you're looking way too deeply into this. People just hate hipsters because their stereotype is associated with smugness and elitism.
Xen I hate hipsters because they ruin bars I wanted to go to with their shitty Synth-Fusion music.
Ok, then why are they associated with smugness and elitism? What specifically makes the hipster stereotype so much more hated than others? Are these reasons justified? Do these reasons apply to other subcultures? If so, then do people hate these subcultures too, and why? Simple claims like the one you made don't exist, they just overlook the hidden complexities
Looking "too deeply" into something, I'd say is getting to a meaningless point already. I don't think that's applicable here
I happen to like a lot of music that is not popular but that is because I genuinely like that music. I think that makes me a music nerd. Plus, I still enjoy some popular music too.
I'm confused....so because I'm geeky, play games, like tech, into many arts, a bit of a foodie, dress flannel and geek t-shirts, wear hats that look like a Chipotle employe's, listen to everything from old school, alternative, rock, indie, rap, electronic, house ext. and like the color orange, I'm a.....hipster?
Julian Chavez no don't admit it! It's just a title people gave us/them to conform us and make us seem the same
That is my problem right now. I have labelled myself a hipster for over a year because I associate with all the stereotypes of a hipster, but the only different thing is that I don't pretend to like all of it.
Do you genuinely enjoy these things? if the answer is yes, and are not an ass about it, then you're *NOT* a hipster.
Hipsters are modern hippies and yuppies mixed. By this video's definition, Steam punk would be a hipster style. I hope not. A perfect example of a Hipster would be someone who moves into Chicago's Wicker park because they like it's historic charm. While at the same time said hipster would knock down one of these 1880's era houses because they could only live in a modern building they had built in place of it. And that is the very reason why I hate Hipsters!
That sounds like the definition of a yuppie, before adding in the hippy.
_I forgot about the _*_Yippies_*_ too._ Tell me the _Occupy Wall street_ crowd protesting the NATO convention in Chicago was not just like the _Youth International Party_ (YIP) of the 60's
We're all a little bit of something, sometimes.
I'm hipster because I like wearing big glasses. I'm a geek because I love comics too much. I'm a nerd because I really enjoy reading archaeological journals. I'm gay because I have sex with men. I mean, it's really all relative.
I agree Im Beat (you know Kerouac and Bebop), I love 30's -50's horror movies, and Music From Charlie Parker to Jerry Garcia. So yeah its all relative :)
Being hipster is just wanting to be something your not, whether you do it in jest or in seriousness. Hipsters are what's wrong with the world even third world countries wouldn't be seen in your paltry attempt to be new and inventive. Hipsters excel at replicating and not being unique. If you want to be something special make something special don't act a certain way be a certain way.
That escalted quickly haha
Dean S might just be the hipsters I met but they are all as fake as a barbie doll and as interesting and unique as regular flavored gum. Haha
My Dad was a hipster and didn't know it. He had a Lumberjack beard, the glasses and liked checkered shirts. He listened to Faroe Island folk music and wore weird hats like a fez ironically. When I told him he was a hipster, he didn't know what it meant. So I showed him on google. He said "oh, well I was doing it before it was cool..."
One is a hipster when they act differently only for the sake of being different.
This, would also qualify them as an asshole
As dickheads as well
I like handlebar moustaches unironically. Am I a nerd?
You don't get to be a nerd for just liking something; If you wanna be a nerd, you've gotta find a way to go overboard with it.
I was watching this like wtf how are these things he's describing hipster then I saw that it was made in 2013 and I was like ohhh
lol true
Lol my friend called me a hipster the other day just cause I like putting chia seeds in my porridge xD