The History of Halloween Part III - 'The Thorn Trilogy.'
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- After 'Halloween III: Season Of The Witch' took a sharp left turn that damaged the legendary h*rr*r franchise nearly beyond repair, it was clear to the studio what needed to be done: The Return of Michael Myers. Over the next eight years, Halloween 4, 5 and 6 would create a brand new mythology for our beloved Shape, known today as 'The Thorn Trilogy.' Series staples like John Carpenter, Debra Hill and Jamie Lee Curtis had all exited the franchise, and under nearly a dozen new writers, directors and studios, Halloween was about to undergo a massive shift.
Could Michael Myers be brought back in a way that audiences would accept? Would Danielle Harris' new character, Jamie Lloyd, be eaten alive by bloodthirsty moviegoers? Is it even possible to give the answers to the looming questions surrounding Michael Myers and his evil ways without completely ruining his mystique? We'll cover all that and more right here in 'The History Of Halloween Part III - The Thorn Trilogy.'
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“What in Sam Hell is going on with Michael’s mask?” Obviously, he was paying tribute to the murdered Ben Tramer from Halloween II, WHO HAS STILL NOT GOTTEN JUSTICE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS! I for one, applaud Michael for attempting to preserve the memory of Mr. Tramer.
Cinema Snob, is that you? 😂😂😂
@@codyman5540 LOLOLOL!!!
😂😂😂
Indeed…what in Samhain was going on with it
Justice for Ben Tramer and Ted Holister
I too love Halloween 4, flaws and all. For a long time, it was my "white noise movie" that I'd play when I went to sleep every night. Halloween 5 is pretty ponderously bad without many redeeming qualities. The Myers mask is terrible, making Jamie a mute in a hospital is bad, killing off Rachel and giving us more disposable teens that you KNOW Michael will chop up is bad, and goddamn TINA is annoyingly bad. Halloween 6 is bad, but the behind-the-scenes drama of its production and the emergence of the Producer's Cut make it a very intriguing piece of horror movie lore. Like observing a car wreck on the side of the road, you know it's bad but you're attracted to it by a morbid curiosity. Also, the H6 Myers mask looks awesome and one of my favorite masks in the series. It looks like it's made of stone or granite, as ancient and immovable as the force powering Michael.
I also disliked that they killed off Rachel so unceremoniously and right in the first half of the film. I thought Rachel should have survived, at least until the end if not the whole story arc.
I don’t know why, but the “Loomis gets Marty Jannetty’d through a window” comment had me rolling. Another incredible job, Ian… I absolutely love this channel and what you do with it my friend.
Hahahaha, thank you, man.
Awesome!
It is a belter of a line 👌
Ye maybe it's only us Halloween fans who are wrestling smart Mark's would get it but there seems to be s lot of crossover and by god if your 1 of us that is a belter of a line
I love this reference
Marty Jannetty’d through a window. I love the wrestling nods. 😂
I’m glad you guys appreciate them, lol
Just coming to make this comment, but you beat me to it!
@@616Entertainment Scream Rules of survive horror are not to be taken seriously they are not guarantees worth shit and do not insure survival.
@@patrickwentzell4638 ...what are you talking about?
@@616Entertainment uh the movie Scream directed by Wes Craven when Sidney Prescott had sex with her boyfriend Billy it goes against the rule if you have sex in a horror movie sooner or later you will die in it. Sidney managed to not die in Scream even though she was not a vergin anymore.
"Halloween 6: God Dammit, It's Halloween 6" that's my favorite line of the video lol. Great video as always Ian, keep it up, your hard work and passion is greatly appreciated.
Donald Pleasance is the real MVP. He stuck with this burning carcass of a story until the very end.
If you don’t consider the Thorn Trilogy a smoldering carcass by 6 I don’t know what to tell you lol.
I liked pt 4 yeah its not perfect but it's in my top 5 Halloween films
@@whocares8584 4 is great. But it's forcibly put into the trilogy because of parts 5 and 6 which are the real dumpster fire. In 4 there's nothing about this Thorn bullshit.
@Jarred Knox 5,6,curse are garbage
@@justinedse3314 They are great
Hands-down, you make the best documentary content on RUclips. So many documentaries focus on the first one and ignore the rest. This is the closest we've gotten to a Never Sleep Again/Crystal Lake Memories style doc for Halloween. Great stuff!
What are you talking about, there are plenty of Halloween complete series reviews. Cinemassacre, decker shado, cinema snob, etc
I bet someone went to Akkad’s office one day and asked him “Did you even have a plan for Halloween?” And then Akkad would tell him “Not really”
Using Marty Jannetty as a verb was an unexpected moment, and it popped me.
I always like delving into this franchise's history when it gets close to October and this series is the absolute best I've seen on the topic. Amazing job. I really want to read Taking Shape now
Highly appreciated, thank you. My goal is to make my retrospectives the definitive one on whatever subject I'm covering.
This is my third watch of this playlist. 616 did an amazing job, I've referred people to this playlist because I just think it's very well done, entertaining, informative! Thanks again man!
I love your Halloween documentary series, it's so insightful!
One of my favorite things to do is pop one of these parts on the tv and eat my dinner to it lol, call it strange but I thoroughly enjoy it and takes me back to being a kid. Thank you for making this, Ian!
It's not strange! My girlfriend and I watch stuff everyday during dinner.
@@616Entertainment haha just takes me back man! Thank you for another awesome video on an awesome series!
Same here...as long as I always have my horror movies, I can be a kid forever:)
This is one of the absolute best videos I've watched in ages. I was laughing out loud (OMG the Moustapha Akkad impression...). I didn't want it to end! Can't wait for part IV!!
Someone should have Marty Jannetty'd the director of Halloween 5 through a window for real
Hahahahahaha
I can’t wait! I have been loving this series so far and I can’t wait for more surprises that are in store. See you then, Ian!👍
Always, brudda.
I cant wait for when he gets to the Rob Zombie versions
Here's how I'd write Halloween 5:
If we *must* have Michael return as the killer, then his survival would not be explained. We would see the shooting and maybe the explosion (it's a bit unnecessary). However, much like the characters themselves, we would be left to wonder how he survived and why he won't just die.
Jamie killed her *foster* mom. No half-assed retconns or tap dancing around consequences. Jamie is in an asylum for crazed children because she's a murderer. There's no telepathic link between her and Michael, because that's stupid. Jamie merely acted on a psychosis planted in her mind from the traumatic experience of Michael trying to kill her.
Rachel is not bubbly, she's not happy, and she definitely does not visit Jamie in the asylum. Rachel resents Jamie for what she did. And struggles knowing that she sacrificed so much, facing down death itself to save a strange girl she hardly knew, and who would ultimately bring her and her family nothing but grief. Her mother, her boyfriend, and her father (who killed himself over his wife's death) would all be alive if she had just let Michael do what he came to do.
Doctor Loomis has returned to Smith's Grove where he keeps a close eye on Jamie. Occasionally asking her assigned psychiatrist, Doctor Bailey (new character) if he can interview Jamie with her oversight (he can't be alone with a girl he tried to shoot). Loomis learns here that Jamie has no memory of what she did, and is seemingly normal and functioning, and only asks why her big sister won't visit her. Loomis knows these aren't the symptoms that Michael possessed as a child, and that perhaps Jamie was just another victim of him, having her life ruined like all the other people he's hurt. Maybe whatever evil drives Michael infected Jamie for just long enough to get her put away to a location familiar to Michael, where she would be alone and intentionally isolated from the town that was able to stop him the last time.
Rachel, bitter and resentful, hesitantly joins a group of townspeople in Haddonfield who think the best course for the town is to hand Jamie over to Michael. It's they who throw the rock in Jamie's window. Only with a slightly different letter attached. Maybe we get a shot of Jamie looking out the window and seeing Rachel, her sister whom she hasn't seen in almost a year, and she's outside looking up at her just as the Shape would.
The Shape returns, as always immediately starts killing people. He begins with Sheriff Meeker, whom he kills after a tense fight where Meeker actually does some damage to Michael, but ultimately loses. Here Michael learns what happened to Jamie.
(I won't detail any kills as I'm more focused on the overall narrative)
News of Meeker's death spreads, and Rachel and her new friends know who is responsible. So they go out to Smith's Grove. There they meet one of their own: Doctor Bailey. She was a friend of Rachel's mother and encouraged her to foster Jamie after Laurie Strode's death. Like Rachel she carries guilt over what that choice led to. She hands Jamie over to them and they take her to the Myer's house (which is not some vampire's summer home but an actual middle class house). Loomis sees this and follows.
At the Myer's house, they prepare to hand Jamie over. Rachel is having a harder and harder time going through with it. As she is realizing that Jamie is not like her uncle, something she would have seen had she ever visited her. Loomis arrives and is able to convince Rachel to save Jamie, to save her little sister. He tells her that Jamie is not an agent of the Shape, they are. He made Jamie do what she did, but Rachel, Doctor Bailey and the others are choosing to give Michael exactly what he wants. And that killing Jamie won't stop him, he'll win, and then he'll find another.
Rachel frees Jamie, and with Loomis' help they flee into the basement as the Shape has arrived and is preventing their escape. The Shape rampages through the house, killing Doctor Bailey and all the other vigilantes, knocking over candles that start a fire. In the basement he finds Loomis between him and the girls. Loomis draws his gun, and shoots Michael six times, putting him on the ground and giving Jamie and Rachel the chance to escape. Loomis tells Rachel to take Jamie and flee, go far away and never come back, tell no one of where they're going.
As they leave, Loomis uses his body weight against the door to trap a weakened Michael in the basement. He sits there and says, "It's time, Michael." And waits, as the fire consumes both of them, and the house itself.
*The End*
That's my rough draft for Halloween 5, it conflicts with my idea for Halloween 6 but I won't get into that. Apologies for any typos, and I hope it was good.
The fact that after he gets up on the back of the truck and is fighting with the two guys the one guy just stands their and stares ahead and doesn't hear what's going on 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Maybe when Deborah Hill suggested that they go with Gerard as the director she was secretly trying to get revenge for what they did to her and John Carpenter...
Hhahahaha
Yes!! They were MEAN for that!!😭
Really? If so, they went about it very poorly. Othenin-Girard has been just about the ONLY man to come along who actually understood what made the original so great.
I can come back to these videos 100 times. I love your Halloween series man.
1:00:20 his reaction was literally perfect. The kane head tilt and the crazed laugh was exactly what was needed. He did well in this movie
Agreed!
That Mousthafa impression was spot on 😂😂😂
Hahahahha
The greatest docs in the internet. I appreciate your hard work and detail Ian! Thank you!
Thanks so much, dude.
@@616Entertainment you’re beyond welcome. I subscribe I want to say 4-5 months ago. And after the Resident Evil I was like okay cool. Then when I seen the wrestling content, we were friends after that 😂 but seriously great job man!
About H5 - your comments are not only spot on and funny, but I couldn't have said it better. You'd think after getting poked in eye with a hanger, eyes shot out, shot hundreds of times, burns and in a coma for a year...no..."look niece. "tis only but a scratch!" lol
Wooo!! That was a great video man! And for the record...Halloween 6 is actually my favorite one. I think it might be the first one I ever saw. Plus it was pretty gory. We had it on VHS. No parental code needed. I can't wait to see the next one.
Hello Ian Ive just discovered your channel watching the Halloween reviews and I wanted to say thank you so much for making me laugh and I love your reviews!! I love how much you put into your reviews kind regards Dawn from Yorkshire England xxx
Holy Jesus! What a video this was. This is definitely another one of your absolute best in terms of quality and love shown here. This is why I love your channel, Ian. Not only do I learn new stuff on things I need to catch up on, but also love the videos that give me nostalgia such as your wrestling and MK videos. Thank you, Ian, and I can’t wait for 9/17. 616 for life!
Dude thank you. It's gonna be big time, as always, I assure you!
Benedictus Deus in sæcula.
Ian, you've simply outdone yourself AGAIN with this part of your series. There's really nothing I can add that hasn't already been said, but this is simply top-tier production work, excellent writing, and perfect delivery. To say I'm excited for the next part in September is an understatement. I love you and your channel so much!
This is awesome. Great work, Ian. I give this video a 7444/10.
That's a fair rating, I gotta say.
The concept of the Curse of Thorn is actually pretty awesome, but they went about it in the worst possible way. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a reboot of this timeline.
Worst way as in horribly done, yea. Lol
@@616Entertainment Exactly. Cool idea, terrible execution.
I was searching for a thorough, well researched, very detailed documentary on all things Halloween. So, Wow!!!!! I was/am so thrilled to view and enjoy your videos. Fantastic Job! ITA with EVERY word you say about Hallowen 5. It is a joke of a film. I just wish that the Director Himself, got to hear some of our overall feelings of his "Contribution" to the series. He should SOOOO be ashamed. Your detail and insights are to be praised, ( MY personal fave is Halloween II.) Thus, I especially love your take on that installment.).
Dude thank you, this made my night. =) More Halloween content coming in October, so stick around!
Damn right he should be!!😠
Dude, my kid woke me up at 2 am and wouldn’t go back to bed so I threw on SuperWings for him and put this episode on my phone to stay awake. This epp made me a sub because this was just totally awesome. Great stuff!
The next installment of the History of Halloween?!?!? Gimme a HELL YEAH!!!
Here we go!
This might be my favorite series you’ve done. I love horror movies and the Halloween series is one of my favorites second only to Friday The 13th. And I enjoy the Castlevania music choice. One of the best video game soundtracks
I’m really enjoying this series so far. I can’t wait to see your video on H20 and Resurrection, and then eventually, the Rob Zombie (if you plan on doing it), and of course the 2018 movie.
I also can’t wait to October 15th for Halloween Kills.
Totally agree 👍 and this series is unique with the wrestling references.
Another great video. Each one is better than the previous and I gotta say this is my favorite history of you’ve done. Part 5 is horrendous but for whatever reason as kid I’d rewatch it a lot. I had the double pack of part 4 and 5 dvd and even though I’d turn off part 5 about 30 minutes in I always got in the mood to throw it in. Maybe it’s just because the cookie woman line is so terrible that it’s my favorite line in the franchise.
I always wanna say on a personal note, it’s awesome to see you do some horror. A very good friend of mine showed me my first horror film, Halloween 2, when we were 9. Since then we’ve always talked horror and would throw on a film whenever we hungout. About 2 1/2 years ago I came out to him as trans and he ended our friendship over it. He was the only person in my life who loved horror and I’ve missed being able to talk to him about it. So it’s nice to get to watch a chill and funny guy like you talk about one of the best slasher franchises ever (I’m more of a Nightmare on Elm Street gal but Halloween was my first franchise love as a kid)
Now that I realize that we're even closer in age than what I was thinking I definitely have to keep supporting this channel!
Hahaha thanks man!
Great job with the vid Ian! This part of the Halloween franchise certainly has its ups and downs for sure. I loved the 4th one, even with its mishaps. 5, I think most will agree with you on your thesis. I personally found the man in black intriguing. When its revealed at the end he breaks him out of prison and we are left us with that cliff hanger for 6 years, that was crazy. During this time where Michael had just up and disappeared, I heard many rumors as to what happened to him, my favorite being he was captured and sent to space. I thought that was a crazy idea and made no sense. Little did I know with the same description of this potential sequel, it would be realized in Jason x. I honestly prefer the producer's cut of 6. Some of the story choices are not very good but this version feels more like Halloween than the theatrical version. There's also a director's cut of the film but hasn't been released, officially or unofficial asi far as I know. 4's opening scene is out of this world. It captures that true Halloween vibe but only referring to the movie but over all. I look forward to your next installment and when the retrospective is compete and it's available to watch them all in one sitting! 👊
Dude 4 is really good, no doubt. I wanted to mention the opening credits but with as long as this is, I made cuts to my script for the sake of time. Talking about "how sick does this opening credits look" seemed like an easy sacrifice, lol
@@616Entertainment I couldn't agree with you more. Great editing throughout the vid as well. Your vids always flow very good 👍
Love these videos. Especially with Halloween is my favorite horror franchise.
Hope they're living up to the hype, my dude.
“Marty Janettey through a window” I’m Fckn hollering 🗣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve seen so many reviews and In depth looks into these movies but by far your are always the best which is why I don’t care if I know some of these things, hearing you talk about them and not sugar coating anything is why I am such a follower of yours!
Highly appreciated, dude.
It's funny that you mentioned Pat from SNL. This one time, back in the summer of 1997, I went to my local video store to rent Halloween 5. As I was leaving the store I checked the video to make sure that it was correct, but the clerk working that day gave me the wrong tape. The tape that he gave me? It's Pat. Crazy stuff.
What a strange connection.
I was 12 when Curse came out and it was the first Halloween movie I saw in the theater,but even at that age I hated it.But for whatever reason I’ve always liked 4 and 5,I thought the whole angle with Michael’s niece and their psychic link was kinda cool.Fearfest on AMC always plays them and somehow I get massively sucked in every time,lol.Good stuff though dude I’m loving this series!
Bad taste indeed
I’ve always like 4 and 5 too! The older I get the more I can see all of 5’s screw ups and as a big fan of the franchise as a whole, it really does frustrate me. However, I love Jamie and her story. I feel like they could’ve tied it off Aly better and I really wish (like most ppl do ab their fav franchises) that creativity and the sake of the story would’ve trumped over everything else. I still really do like the movies tho. 4 is my favorite next to the original.
My cable provider stopped carrying AMC so we switched lmao solely because of fear fest 😂
Halloween 6 Producers cut is by far the best in franchise! Sadly after part 6 the franchise has become a huge joke
@@robertpreston2220 yesssss. 6 is the best and when I found the cut version I loved it more. So much depth. The new ones are garbage
@@justinsmith4051 I wish they had made the sequel to part 6 Pcut that they had planned. It sounded like it would have been great. Instead all we got was trash after six
I love this video. I must have watched this about 10 times. Thank you so much!
So Damn Good! Luved it! Excellent Work as Always My Dude 🤘💙
Thanks Nicole!
@@616Entertainment Thank U for making Awesome Shit to watch! Never watched one of Ur Videos and been Disappointed 🤘💙
Marty Jannetty'd through the window had me crying 🤣 🤣 🤣
I always thought Michael's mask in H4 looked kinda like Data from Star Trek: TNG. Hey, the first two movies had a William Shatner mask, and the first episode of TNG premiered like a year before H4, so they could've done it as an intentional reference.
Hahahahaha
Gotta agree with your viewers "Marty Jannetty'd thru the window" is priceless! Your one liners are boss, Happy I found your videos, New sub!
Yet another great installment can't wait for the next one
Going to be great, dude. Thank you!
Love this. Told you before I'm not the biggest horror guy, but I found myself talking about Halloween with my boy at work last night. Sent him the links for this and the others in the series so far. Looking forward to the next one.
Oh hell yea!
I grew up watching all of the Halloweens and 4,5 and 6 are my favorites to watch.
My favs as well. Halloween 6 Producers cut is by far the best in franchise! Sadly after part 6 the franchise has become a huge joke
Have been a wrestling fan since I was 10 I’m now 28__ little did I know Kane and taker got the slow sit up idea from Michael Myers, chur Ian great job once again brother
Yes indeed! Thanks man.
“How did they survive the cockadoodie explosion?!” Been waiting a month to comment with that! 🤣🤪
Hahhahha
Ms. Wilkes.
“Loomis gets Marty Jannetty’d through the window”….. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I immediately thought of Bobby “The Brain” Heenan’s “Jannetty tried dive through to the window to escape” 🤣😂🤣🤣
Hahahahahhha
You just gotta love these history videos
Thank you!
Great job on all your series on the Halloween 🎃 franchise, interesting,funny, well put together, a fantastic and enjoyable watch from beginning to end , you are obviously very passionate and professional at what you do , great job sir ,
Highly, highly appreciated. Thank you.
Halloween 5 was my very first Halloween film. As a kid I was obsessed with it. I loved the Jamie Michael connection and that he could be pulled from his evil by the power of his niece (very anime). I also liked the fact that the man in black was essentially Michael’s guardian. I think they could have gone much further (and better) with this storyline.
It’s only as an adult I see how awful the film is in and of itself 😂😂😂 It’ll always have a soft spot in my heart though.
Hahaahahahha
Sounds to me like you reached 'adulthood', heard OTHER people criticizing it, and decided to hop on the bandwagon...I first saw it when I was around 20, and as a 54 year old man, love it more than ever. One of the best films of its' kind ever made...
I'm not the first to say it, but the Dr. Loomis getting Marty Jannetty'd comment popped me HARD. 😂😂
Hahahaha I'm glad that's getting over.
"Marty Jannetty's Loomis through the window"... Lmfao! Priceless! 🤣
Keep up the great work my dude! c:
Thanks for being there live brudda.
@@616Entertainment Like always, thank YOU my dude! Hope ya had a good time at the concert!! c:
I have watched this video 4 times it is easily my favorite of your Halloween videos thus far. If I had it my way it would be your highest viewed video of your Halloween installments. From very informational too funny at times this is extremely rewatch able.
Thanks man. This one has done well. Part II didn't do so well, but this one kinda helped but it up a little. Now Part IV is out and it's outpacing this one by quite a bit, which is excellent news.
Halloween 4 was actually the very first Halloween movie I watched yeah I watched them out of order lol. Halloween 6 without a doubt sucks but it definitely has one of the most satisfying character deaths ever. I popped so loud when John's head exploded I hated that guy the breakfast scene used to piss me off so much when I was younger.
Dude that head pop is so good.
Dominique Othenin-Gerard cracks me up in the worst ways LMAO
So, so bad.
I'm a huge fan of the retrospects man. Great work! It would be awesome if you did one about the Terminator franchise too.
Oh man. Not in the cards at the moment, but never say never.
Loomis didn't even know the mask was wrong? Gheeez he was there for a paycheck lol
Hahahaahha
Damn straight, Halloween 5 was a piece of shit! At least Resurrection had a "so bad its good" feel to it. Busta Rhymes made it kinda funny.
Oh we're on our way to that.
Love the Thorn Trilogy even has is flaws and Donald Pleasence is a legend, R.I.P❤️🎃
This history videos a damn good work, well done man👌
H4 and H5 are my favorite Halloween movies. Then H2 and the original. H6 and Resurrection are the only ones I don’t like.
This series is the truth bro, been a supporter of you and this channel for over a year now, you're on fire brother, much love from Australia 🇦🇺❤
Dominique Othenin-Girard is Rian Johnson before Rian Johnson.
Halloween 4 is The Force Awakens, Halloween 5 was The Last Jedi and yup, you guessed it, Halloween 6 is definitely The Rise of Skywalker.
Dude Dominique is waaaay worse. RJ at least wrote and directed Looper, which was fantastic.
@@616Entertainment True, true!! I'll give RJ that, I liked that movie. Dominique was some clown! Great vid, looking forward to September!
H6 was the first one I was able to see in theaters, so I have a lot of nostalgia about it. Me and my cousin snagged a bootleg DVD of the producers cut at a fangoria convention years and years before Blu-ray was even a thing. It was super rough, but it blew our minds as we had only heard rumors about it if I remember correctly.
I think they’re should’ve been a clip of Kyle Reese saying he will not stop until you are dead! 😂
Just straight drop it in the middle of the film, lol
@@616Entertainment right!!! I was thinking of the part where he was on the truck & then were you said he wouldn’t stop coming lol
I love the Super Castelvania IV background music!
I loved the thorn trilogy the most and Paul Rudd’s character was great. 6 is my fav movie of the franchise.
Glad you like it!
I love the fact you are using Super Castlevania 4 music in this.
These are so well made and fun to watch. I like the personal stories you throw in there too, keep up the good work homie !
Thank you, Dennis. =)
Great video. Your spotlight videos are so well done. Personally I think of these 3 movies what you think of Halloween 5. Except for Danielle Harris. She’s awesome
She's good indeed.
Damn my vhs era i miss them days i always rented them from 1994-2001 good times and grear video bro!!!!!🤘🏼🍭🍬🎃
Thank you!
Watching this at 2am and I just discovered you off my recommendation page and I’m very much liking your videos so imma subscribe
Welcome aboard, thanks for watching!
I never used to think anything about the Mask, I just used to think it was peoples idea of what it looked like from witnesses but that's just in my eyes 👀😊💜🐾👋👍
On a side note, Reverend Jackson P. Sayer, despite only having the one scene in Halloween 4, is among my favorite tertiary characters in the entire franchise. His scene is one of my favorites in that arena as well. I have always wanted to see some kind of backstory on him, as he seems like there is a hell of a story to be told. I know that he sticks around a little while longer in the novelization, and that he becomes one of the only people in the franchise to meet Michael face to face and live, though he doesn't walk away without being wounded.
Big time. I initially wrote about this expanded deal in the novel and how he loses his vision, but this is so long that I made some cuts to the video, and that was one of them.
One of my favourite characters from all the Halloween films!! “ you’re a pilgrim ain’t yah “.
Halloween 6 was actually the very first Halloween I saw, I was 10 years old and my older brother convinced me to watch it, I rewatched it for the first time after your retrospective bro I even for the first time saw Season of the Witch, It wasn't terrible but it wasn't great it somehow felt contrived, it does have it's moments that's for sure but to me personally it didn't feel like a Halloween movie, I can respect it for what it is though, gearing up for Halloween kills can't wait to see it
Enjoy Kills!
2020 Messed me up so much I thought your next video was coming out NEXT YEAR... I was like NOOOO
That “Yeeeeeaaah!” @ 10:16 was epic! I died 😂💀
This channel gives off so many positive vibes, I just adore watching these videos.
Once this guy starts talking about Halloween 5, the music in backgrounds sounds like some Batman Forever on SNES. That music creeped me out as a kid.
The music here is from several different Castlevania games.
"kill me. just fucking kill me this guy!" that cracked me up XD
Can't do it anymore, man.
Fun fact: Of the big 3 horror franchises, the movie with the lowest rating on Rotten Tomatoes is, believe or not, Friday the 13th part 3, with a 7% rating. The next 2 lowest would be Jason Takes Manhattan with 8%, and The Curse of Michael Myers with 9%. Halloween Resurrection has 12%. I love all of these movies, by the way. All of them!
I was gonna say - can't wait until we get to the Paul Rudd computerized one lol. I thought it was in the 1990s/2000s but did not realize how much time they skipped😳 curious if you have seen James Rolfe's review of Halloween 6 or "How to Fix Halloween 6" because this came to mind for me
Nah, I've never seen that. Once I'm done with this I'll give that a watch. I always avoid other people's content on whatever I'm covering.
The conversation between Moustapha and John is hilarious 🤣
Hahahaha
@@616Entertainment Great stuff man I subscribed immediately.
The H5 director's interview in the Taking Shape book is amazing. "This decision was terrible garbage, but Dominique is the one who made it, and Dominique is the kind of person who refers to himself in the third person, so it's actually brilliant!"
Othenin-Girard has been just about the ONLY man to come along who actually understood what made the original what it was. The only sequel that's even in the same class as 5 is Halloween 2, and I don't know how much of that film was Rosenthal and how much was Carpenter. There's no such confusion over Halloween 5. Othenin-Girard centered it RELENTLESSLY around the elements that made the '78 classic so special. Halloween 5 is forged on the stalking sequences, and cat-and-mouse scenarios, that were the backbone of the original.
BRAH! My suggestion feed needs a COMPLETE reboot... ain’t no reason I’m on this app every day and just now seeing this!!
Click the bell, do whatever the hell it is they require you to do to see what you actually want to see these days. RUclips is a mess. Either way I’m glad you found it. =)
@@616Entertainment Gotcha, sometimes I forget... I’ve only been using RUclips for about a decade before it came out you know.. lol
You and i have alot in common bro. grew up on the monday night wars.. love the smackdown series.. the halloween series are my favorite horror movies... resident evil is my favorite series of games.. love the content my man in the presentation in your reviews is top-notch never stop keep it going and thank you for your videos we definitely would have been best friends in high school if we knew each other
Wow Ian, like always awesome video. When I saw all of these films my emotions went to disappointment to straight up furious. After finishing watching the previous movie and going to the next hoping it will get better. Man was I wrong it just got way worst. Halloween 4 The Return Of Michael Myers was indeed a good movie, I did like it. It was interesting how the daughter would go similar horror path being chased by pure evil event. Though, it suck to learn that Laurie Strode had died and left her daughter Jamie Lloyd behind. I've asked myself did Jamie knew about her mother's trauma event past and her uncle being a psychopath killer. In a way I felt like I saw that idea, but it felt scatter around. Maybe that's why she had the nightmares and when it came to the ending did meant that Jamie would become evil. I did worry that Jaimie would become evil like her uncle. As we know that theory didn't go on the next film, only causing Jamie to go mute and traumatize. Halloween 5 The Revenge Of Michael Myers was an awful movie and I really did hate it. I was beyond furious and heartbroken when Rachel got killed off all because the director didn't like the character. Like hello she was a bad ass in the last film, she went to great length to protect Jamie and lets not forget she ran over Michael Myers with a truck. Yeah the director really fucked off on this movie from changing the Myers home to an unmasked Michael Myers's face not being burn. All the director's choices were ridiculous. Halloween The Curse Of Michael Myers, don't know where to start with this movie. When I watched this movie many times I asked myself when did this slasher genre turn to supernatural. There was Jamie who was alive, held captive for years, and pregnant with her uncle's child. Yeah, I still don't want to think how that happen. Though, I was sad that Jamie had died and seeing the end of her story. About the situation towards The Men In Black and The Cult were they trying to make Michael Myers immortal. This to me felt questionmarks all over, I just don't know anymore. I did like that Tommy Doyle reappear, but not what I expected only to find he was obsessed of chasing a killer. So, yeah these are my thoughts towards the movies.
"Make Halloween great again" on the hat 🤣🤣🤣
loved the mock voice for Akkad lol one of my favorites yet
Yea the accent doesn't even make sense. It's like half Russian, half middle eastern, it's ridiculous.
I've heard of sound clips & bits of scenes from both versions & been dying ever since 7TH Grade, then I first saw H6 only a little bit on The Startz Channel back when I when I was in 8TH Grade, then saw the final act sequence on The FX Channel 5 months after I was done with high school & love it, & still love it till this day.
41:47 Too be fair, that script was FUCKING AWFUL because Jamie not only has psychic powers, but also telekinetic powers like Tina in F13 Part 7 and SO DOES MICHAEL!!! Who at one point multiplies himself to 16 clones of himself to tick Loomis and Jamie. Dr. Loomis is also the villain who's trying to kill Jamie until she just hugs him and he changes his mind. The script also features a jock who's basically like Dan in Nightmare 4 and a lot of the script felt very Freddy including the way Jamie defeats Michael by saying "I don't believe in you!" And Michael turns into a hundred knives and when they take off his mask, he's turned into a little boy. (Yeah, basically a Jason Takes Manhattan ending. Are you serious!?!) Loomis does and the writer of the script said he hated the character because he was a overused character and after Michael's defeated, Jamie is driven by the jock and she kills him at the end, and it ends exactly where Halloween 4 ended with nothing to learn for Jamie whatever. They basically just started back from the beginning. And I can see why Akkad didn't like the script because it would've been terrible.
I've been trying to watch Police Academy 1 which is rated R, for sixteen years now on my PS2. Thanks for the tip!!!!
These videos are great . Definitely something I'll revisit every spooky time of year. Thank you
I just noticed the SUPER Castlevania IV music at the beginning. Halloween, Castlevania and Marty Jannetty references...this video is my childhood in an hour and some odd minutes and I love it.
Thanks for watching!