This from the guy who called the Reagan era the decade of greed. You did pretty good those years, eh John. You got paid pretty good for the dreck you made.
Rich Evans: "You are all going to hate me." Me: Clutches heart and looks to "The Thing" poster on my wall. Rich Evans: "Halloween." Me: Sigh of relief.
Pretty much, mu thoughts were "Its Thing or Escape from New York", but i was still kinda shocked that it was Halloween. Good discussion to end the video tho.
This is the fourth video in a row about topics that Jay loves. It's official - Mike's reign of Trekkian Terror is at an end. Is Rich Evans now free, or does he have a new master? Tune in to the next episode of RLM Adventures to find out!
@@ohbejuankenobi663 I prefer to imagine it's just Mike. His parents did a gag with Mike once and now don't know how to get out of it without destroying his psyche.
One of my favorite RLM jokes is when someone fucks up a famous person's name and they show a completely random image of someone entirely different with the made-up name under it.
The best part is that occasionally they do put the correct person in the image, so if they mention someone who I know nothing about I have no idea if the image is accurate or not
One of my favorite bits of "Enrico Morricone" trivia is how 99% of the score he wrote for The Thing went unused for 35 years until Quentin Tarantino asked him to score Hateful Eight. Ennio pulled his unused Thing score out of a drawer, dusted it off and pretty much turned it in as-is and it won the fucking Oscar for Best Original score that year.
And it is a shame because it is a fun, but a bit trashy Morricone soundtrack. He wrote La Sconosciuta in the 21st Century. Now that is fuckin' great. On the level of his works with Sollima, Petri and Leone.
My aunt almost quit med school because she was afraid of blood. My dad showed her “The Thing” on cable, and years later she has a job dissecting cadavers. The reason why? (In her own words). “Nothing I’ll ever see in real life can be scarier than that movie”.
Wait. As to Rich's theory about Adrienne Barbeau maybe having an affair, then disappearing from Carpenter's later movies. Escape From New York (1981)wasn't her last appearance in a Carpenter film. She voiced the chess computer in The Thing (1982). The chess computer that the character, MacReady, calls a "Cheating b**ch." I mean....Rich might actually be right...somehow.
Fun Fact: So John actually didn't use much of Morricone's score for The Thing. The classic "BUM BUM" was Carpenter's doing. Occasionally you can hear some of Morricone's score in the film, but overall he threw out much of it. Tarantino wanted Morricone to compose an original score for The Hateful Eight which is inspired by The Thing. Morricone had obligations for another film he agreed to work on so he told Tarantino he could only write 20-25 minutes of original score that Tarantino could maybe stretch into 40 minutes & then he suggested using the unused parts of The Thing score. So if you want to hear more of The Thing's score just watch The Hateful Eight.
Shouldn’t Morricone have been disqualified for winning an Oscar for Hateful Eight since the academy decided that nominated scores have to be original and not based on or incorporated any previous work?
I legit gasped when Rich said prince of darkness at 14, and then when he said Halloween I audibly said "No!". Jay burning on the inside but just diplomatically saying "I don't ... hate you."
He's always looked old but now that he is old, watching him playing the intruments, he looked quite energetic for his age. Maybe that could be the basis of a new movie for him: old man gets the fountain of Youth by playing music.
A friend of mine is a minimalist electronic music composer who has never seen a John Carpenter movie but owned all the soundtracks and went to a horror convention John was appearing at to get his vinyl records signed. When John Carpenter heard that they were BFFs for the rest of the weekend.
I actually like that Rich put Halloween so low, one reason I like RLM is that I like hearing new viewpoints instead of just having my opinions regurgitated back at me.
@@Jana_Neala One of my favorite things about this channel is their complete disregard for everything that almost every other RUclips channel holds on a pedestal. One million subscribers? Video mocking subscriber-count celebration videos. RUclipsrs are worried about Susan Wikiwiki taking away monetization for talking about [certain disease of unknown origin]? Constant mentions of *CORONAVIRUS* very loudly and specifically. One video ended with them telling everybody to give it a dislike. One video ended with them telling us all "fuck you" and -- if I remember correctly -- literally giving us the finger. That being said, fuck Rich Evans for his opinion of Halloween. He's wrong.
Dark Star has the most accurate depiction of space travel of any film. Space ships in isolated parts of the galaxy will likely be manned by weirdos that are bored out of their mind.
I just imagine Rich Evans and Rich Evans in a blonde wig looking at each other and hyena laughing together, in the same pitch and everything. I bet it was wonderful.
It also makes it interesting that for their last picks on their lists, Rich chose a sci-fi film, and Jay chose a horror-genre film. Their tastes led them to pick films where they were disappointed that the movie wasn't up to Carpenter standards.
@@mmattson8947 is ghost of mars an horror film? For me more like a shlocky action flick. But yeah i can see Rich expecting more of a sci-fi concept and being dissapointed
"I've come to learn I really like SynthWave" - Rich. YES!!! Gunship, The Midnight, Carpenter Brut, Perturbator, Timecop1983, Kavinsky, FM-84, Laserhawk, Mitch Murder... boy howdy you have a run ride ahead Rich!
The theme from Halloween is so effective that one evening I came home from work. I opened my front door and stepped Into my house. There were no lights on and all I could hear was the Halloween theme loudly echoing through out the house. For a split second I instinctively felt an uneasiness and dread before it clicked in my brain that my brother was watching one of the Halloween movies.
I was walking home late one night and it was playing from Somewhere in the darkness very loud. Rounded a corner and it was playing inside a pub whos staff and some patrons had a lock in and we’re watching Halloween with the lights off!
Am I the only one currently OBSESSED with the question of whether Rich's sister laughs just like him or not? I can't stop thinking about it. Rich, help me.
Got to see John Carpenter perform on Halloween a few years ago, that was a real treat. Glad he gets to spend his elder years just playing video games and making cool music with his family
Its only because studios will not give him money anymore to make movies......Ghosts of Mars was the last time a studio was willing, EVERY movie he has ever made not named Halloween were varying degrees of flop only getting a cult audience on home video. I stopped feeling bad for the guy when he was asked what he thought about how so many of his films are now so beloved and real cult favorites. His fucking response; "I don't give a shit, Fuck the fans it didn't make me money" fuck him after that.
I've always felt that the original Halloween was like a ghost story without a ghost. It centres on a tragic and terrifying event in the seemingly distant past, an abandoned house where the terrifying thing happened, and a scholarly character trying to fight the inexplicable evil. I love ghost stories, and that's probably what makes it so memorable for me.
@@somercet1 I agree to an extent. Some are literally about ghosts as much as memory or anything else, but yeah, the oppressive weight of the past is almost always a distinctive feature.
i am used to people being right when they hate on older films i adored as a teen cause i have meh taste i guess and grow up rewatch them and realize i was wrong even if its popular the minority with brains who were adults back then who hated on it were right or mostly right.....halloween is not one of those..if you do not love it like you should your wrong....i was right to love it....it surprised me how much more i like it now on rewatch as an adult then when i was younger...its so good....shits on friday the 13th..the only reason i liked the first friday was the twist of mrs. vorhees...the rest of the franchise is shit...even the rest of the first film is meh
I remember watching Ghosts of Mars with my brother when I was like 9, and thinking it was the greatest movie of all time. I never intend to rewatch it, just going to keep my memory of it in my mind.
Seeing Carpenter live and watching him do that little old man dance Jay mentioned is a highlight of my life. In The Mouth of Madness slaps so hard live.
I appreciate that Rich doesn’t care about pandering to anybody and would rather be honest with himself. He has relatable reasons for going against the crowd as well.
Prince of Darkness isn't perfect, but I really like that movie. The tone, and pace of it is just so engaging to me. Even the premise is just kinda cool to me, and how certain things are framed and shot. It's not my favorite Carpenter film, but it's up there.
I agree that it's one of Carpenter's better movies. There's a lot of good stuff in Prince of Darkness. But it's also...kinda problematic, especially in its later acts. The first half of the film promises a lot more than it ends up delivering. The premise really is fascinating. A potentially apocalyptic threat that requires science and religion working together to stop it. POD starts out as a legitimately cerebral horror / thriller. I just feel like it jumps the rails and settles into something more conventional and less interesting. The ending is great though.
Oh no! Is that actually out... I don't think I can bring myself to watch it. After the last season of Discovery, Picard & Lower Deck... I just can't watch any more 'new Star Trek'. I've just ended up watching random clips of Quark on RUclips.
The best thing about seeing a new RLM video is dropping everything for 40 minutes to watch it; the worst is that it only takes 40 minutes until your waiting for a new RLM video.
Someone once explained to me the "fear" of Halloween movies--Michael Myers skulks around being creepy and doesn't actually do anything you could call the police on him for, until he starts killing people and then there's no help. It's something resonated with a lot of people, especially women. It's the helplessness and dread of it that you know he's no good but you can't actually do anything to stop him short of killing him first but you don't know he's THAT bad yet.
That's it. That's why the first Halloween works so well. It's not some fairytale monster, it's not an over the top serial killer, no. It's a guy in a mask watching you from afar, getting ever more close. He doesn't speak, you don't know what he wants, but the moment you watch outside your window at night, he is there watching you. That's terrifying. That's real, too real sadly. Later iterations they made him an invincible spirit of vengeange, which is boring horror b-movie stuff.
John Carpenter is my favorite director. The man has no effs to give. I saw him do a Q&A in Hollywood back in 2010 and he ended it by saying, "Let's get close to wrapping up. I have to go meet my drug dealer pretty soon."
Saw John Carpenter live a few years ago on Halloween night. It was awesome. He played the main themes from his films with clips from his films projected behind the band.
Rich evans is beyond such silly concepts like gender. In terms mankind can understand he is living god who walks among us. Or maybe he is just a funny guy on internet. Pick your poison
Fun fact about that beach ball in Dark Star: In The Thing, when the dog splits open there is a flower like appendage made of dog tongues with teeth. That prop is actually the feet of the beach ball alien in Dark Star
But it would have still been a garbage movie, but with a different actor.....A Ghosts of Mars with a good script sounds alot better. Its literally the only god awful Jason Statham movie. It was also the final straw for studios actually giving him money to make movies.
The part of the conversation where Jay says, "It's creepy because he has no motive!" and Rich is like "Ehhhhh..." feels like a conversation my brother and I would have. It's like a I get it, but it doesn't do it for me. Like the big reveal at the end of The Strangers. My brother thought it was the greatest thing ever. I don't know why, but the "no motive/random act of violence thing" doesn't do it for me.
As someone who's also sour on the original Halloween, it's one of those ideas that's fun intellectually but makes for a boring time to sit through. "We'll never explain why this guy is doing this" is fine for a short but you'll need really interesting protagonists to compensate for that in order to sustain a feature and Laurie Strode just isn't that deep for me.
Jay is right about 'Halloween'.. So many things has been said about the movie and it's brilliant direction, so I mention one subtle detail that most horror movies with big budgets don't get right. The build up.. Laurie and her friends just talk about mundane things.. There are some minor scares along the way, but it's daylight, so no problem. But it gets darker and darker... You don't need gore with this kind of talent.
Steve Martin certainly looked older than he was. I always remember his character in Parenthood saying "I'm 35" and thinking it was ridiculous as he seemed more like 55. (He was actually 46 at the time).
Escape from L.A was god awful, However Ghosts of Mars was worse. There was almost nothing good about Ghosts of Mars, atleast there were some kinda cool-ish things about Escape from L.A.
My all time favorite capsule review was in Musician magazine 30 years ago. Each album review had a paragraph or two. But then came this gem (this is the only review of any kind I’ve ever memorized): Artist: Debbie Gibson Album: Anything is Possible Review: Except me liking this.
Man, I love Prince of Darkness. Like you said, I can see why people dislike it, but I find it such an interesting movie. I love the slow burn, the atmosphere and the ideas he has in that movie. It's so interesting and different. The feeling of doom and the open ending, like in The Thing, are so awesome! It's one of the very few movies I'd actually love to see remade.
I love Dark Star. It’s an amazing movie. Without Dark Star we wouldn’t have Alien! And yeah. I love Carpenter, Verhoeven and Cronenberg. Without the 80s the world today would suck even harder!
Rich's list: 11: The Thing 10: Escape from New York 9: Big Trouble in Little China 8: They Live 7: Assault on Precinct 13 6: In The Mouth of Madness 5: Christine 4: Starman 3: Memoirs of an Invisible Man 2: Vampires 1: The Ward
When he was leading into what was his #12 with "You're [Jay] going to hate me. You're [viewer] going to hate me.", I was thinking "Whatever, I'm not a huge John Carpenter fan, and I'm sure it can't be Halloween, right? *It can't be Halloween, right‽* ".
I remember when I realized that Big Trouble in Little China, They Live, Halloween, and The Thing were by the same dude as a kid. Even if some of his stuff has been kind of weak, dude's had more influence than just about any other filmmaker for me.
@@gasgrave5386 That might be the nicest correction I've ever seen. But yeah, I'd say there are a couple that are arguably more influential, Lucas or Spielberg maybe. Carpenter's definitely up there though
Same here. Funnily, about half a year ago I finally decided to do a John Carpenter marathon, watched or rewatched about 12 of his movies back to back, and although there are a few duds, it was a great ride :)
Love hearing Rich talk and share opinions etc without having the piss taken out of him. Love Mike but prefer to hear rich actually speak and be confident
I saw Prince Of Darkness as a kid multiple times on our local station's late late movie and it scared the hell out of me. Back in the early nineties, our low-def cable channel's picture quality made it look so raw and brutal, especially the "found footage" scenes. And every time I saw it, I missed the 1st few minutes and had no idea what the film was called as our TV guide would just label it "movie" and then the credits were cut off. I had no idea what film I'd seen despite seeing it at least 3 times before the age of 14 and it wasn't until I rented it as a college student years later (having no idea what I was renting outside of it being a Carpenter film) that I found out. I've loved it ever since, flaws and all and it gave me a great appreciation for Donald Pleasence.
Yeah,Don P really sells that sh*t! But that's the point, no? I enjoyed his dedication to acting -lent a certain amount of credence to his characters. 👍👍
@@anthonypersons7212 literally one of the most atmospheric and thought provoking horror movies I've ever witnessed. The sense of inescapable dread is so unsettling. The only reason that movie does not hold up entirely, is they named the year at which the Antichrist returns. Since that didn't happen, it loses some impact. I'm getting the spooks sitting here typing just thinking about that damned movie. Mid budget masterpiece. :0
You perfectly predicted my reaction to Rich's number 12. That being said: Rich has almost only good things to say about Halloween. "it has the perfect ending", "it has the perfect score". He just doesn't like slasher movies apparently... and dumb psychiatrists.
The weird thing is I love Halloween for the reason they kind of hate on it, I've never been a gore hound, I feel it like nonstop action in my film, I want some meat and potatoes to go with my dessert otherwise it's kinda boring. This is probably why I love movies like "The Thing" sure it's gory but it's for a purpose, to unnerve us, it's not just "hey lets see this cool effect we made!!!!"
I like the supernatural slasher movies, because stuff can get crazy, but a guy with a knife isn't scary conceptually. I mean, it is, in the sense that they could stab you, but you at least have a chance you could beat them up compared to some supernatural entity or monster.
@@ForwardSynthesis On the other hand, a guy with a knife is real. You are unlikely to get murdered by an extradimensional entity, but guys with knives are everywhere.
@@nathanhoffmann1747 That's another reason it's not good horror (though I think Halloween is a great movie otherwise). I'm not scared of the existence of guys with knives. I'd be scared if someone appeared before me with a knife and tried to kill me, but that's not the same as something being horrific conceptually. Some things just aren't "horror" even if they could easily kill you.
"You're going to hate me for this. You're all going to hate me for this." Rich, you can't betray my heart any more than you already have by putting Dark Star in dead last.
I honestly thought he was going to say The Thing or Big Trouble in Little China for his #12 spot, and I was fully prepared to light myself on fire and run into traffic.
They're definitely right about Halloween suffering from the movies that came after it. My experience was much like Jay's-Halloween came out the year I was born, so I ended up not seeing it until like 19 years after its release. By that time, every other 80's/90's horror movie of my adolescence had ripped it off and amped it up much that it was predictable and hard to appreciate without approaching it from a film-making mindset. So while I do think Halloween is a classic masterpiece, it reminds me of a wonderful food item from a local restaurant that gets watered down and played out once the recipe gets acquired and used by a national franchise chain.
31:58: I don’t hate Rich Evans…but I’m eyeing him, very suspiciously. I love “Halloween”. It’s esp good since it didn’t rely on gore. The ending’s iconic: Was it the boogeyman?” “As a matter of fact…it was.”
I appreciate Halloween, but I don't care for it. Same with The Fog and Prince of Darkness. I think The Thing is Carpenter's best movie because it is almost perfect and always interesting to watch.
Same. There's just something so mundane about a human like creature killing suburbanites for literally no reason, and with no well established rules for how they function. I get the ambiguity is supposed to make it more frightening, but it still follows in the footsteps of other well established tropes like scary kids, Hitchcockian murder cam, and bumbling escapees. The filmmaking is clearly competent, and the score is easily the best part, but the only thing new it adds to the equation is the feeling of proximity.
Calling it now, neither will have The Thing in #1 spot, even though they both probably think it's his best movie, they have spent too much time around Mike 'Contrarian' Stoklasa.
@@lachyt5247 It's their opinion and I don't think Mike has anything to do with it. Their list isn't set in stone and everyone has to go along with it. Opinions change, people change...except Star Wars, that was always nonsense.
I haven't seen a few but my list would be something like 1. The Thing 2. Starman 3. They Live 4. Christine 5. Big Trouble in Little China 6. Assault on Precinct 13 7. Halloween 8. The Fog 9. Escape from New York 10. Dark Star 11. Village of the Damned 12. Vampires 13. Escape from L. A. 15. The Ward 16. Ghosts of Mars
The Fog is a flawed masterpiece if there ever was one. The cast, the music, the cinematography, atmosphere, concept - everything but the execution of the story is _absolutely_ top tier. I totally get why some people don't like it, because it's essentially not very good at all from a story perspective, but it's my #3 Carpenter unashamedly.
@@johnm.withersiv4352 Do you say that because Stephen King sets loads of his stories in Maine, and he wrote The Mist (turned into a movie) which sounds similar to The Fog?
18: Ghosts of Mars 17: The Ward 16: Vampires 15: Village of the Damned 14: Prince of Darkness 13: In the Mouth of Madness 12: Memoirs of an Invisible Man 11: Escape From LA 10: Assault on Precinct 13 9: The Fog 8: Escape From New York 7: They Live 6: Big Trouble in Little China 5: Dark Star 4: Christine 3: Halloween 2: Star Man 1: The Thing
I actually enjoyed Dark Star quite a bit, but I've been conditioned by old school BBC scifi like Doctor Who, Red Dwarf and the H2G2 mini series so I'm probably not very objective
Nah I definitely think Rich's #1 is going to be Big Trouble in Little China. It's a very Rich movie. Mike has said his favorite is The Thing (I think in The Blob Re:View, or maybe in one of the commentary tracks?) and Jay has said his favorite is Escape from NY.
Rich doesn’t see the appeal behind Halloween because for him, stalking Jamie Lee Curtis is just a regular Tuesday.
Rich looks like he's absorbed the years that Jay was supposed to have aged
@@ryannelson884 yeah, years of knowledge.
@@drewsmith3673 And food.
Little known fact: it's the other way around, JLC stalks Rich.
@@Lark1610 Rich Evan's childhood photo ended Ellen's career.
"My involvement with the Rob Zombie Halloween films, was accepting a check and returning to my spot on the couch watching basketball." -John Carpenter
Didn't mind the first Rob zombie Halloween. But the second one. That was trash.
@@FreshNews247 Congrats
Those movies are a fucking nightmare. Not in a good David Lynch kinda way.
@@kyleplatz3751 Agreed
This from the guy who called the Reagan era the decade of greed. You did pretty good those years, eh John. You got paid pretty good for the dreck you made.
Rich Evans: "You are all going to hate me."
Me: Clutches heart and looks to "The Thing" poster on my wall.
Rich Evans: "Halloween."
Me: Sigh of relief.
Pretty much, mu thoughts were "Its Thing or Escape from New York", but i was still kinda shocked that it was Halloween. Good discussion to end the video tho.
Same, The Thing is my favorite horror movie.
I was just hoping he wouldn't say "In the Mouth of Madness." :-D
@@lotus-prince "In the Mouth of Madness" is a legitimately good movie even though I think it starts stronger than it ends.
@@davidjeanmougin467 I quite like the ending, though some of the buildup to it was a bit weaker.
12:55 I love the idea of Rich and his sister watching a movie together and laughing, because I like to imagine they both have the same laugh.
Them laughing in a room together is like sticking r2d2 in a blender
@@SirJigglesworth what beautiful music they make…
Funnily enough, he does have an identical twin sister.
@@connielingus8385not identical twin. But a twin
I bet they have the same voice as well.
"part 1 of 3" just warms my cold dead heart
A 3-part series in the best show on the channel is cause for celebration.
Red Letter Media is one of my favorite mundanities. Truly a set of funny guys.
This ought to be good
my identity is stolen
I'm already warming up the 24 cup coffee maker for parts 2 and 3
This is the fourth video in a row about topics that Jay loves. It's official - Mike's reign of Trekkian Terror is at an end. Is Rich Evans now free, or does he have a new master? Tune in to the next episode of RLM Adventures to find out!
Either that, or it's just the calm before the storm. What is Mike planning?
Free? Rich will never be free.
The Star Trek Wars have ended.... Now begins the Star Wars Trek.
They rush through DS9/Voyager to deliver like 10 more Trek videos
Long live Mike! May the new king rule justly and long.
Every time Rich mentions his sister, I just imagine Mike in a wig wearing a "Fanny the Birthday girl" t-shirt.
Imagining this made my day. 🤣🤣🤣
Rich does not have a sister, he just dresses like a woman sometimes. Think of Jack and Jill lol.
@@ohbejuankenobi663 I prefer to imagine it's just Mike. His parents did a gag with Mike once and now don't know how to get out of it without destroying his psyche.
Somewhere, someone is going to take your slander of Richina Evans and defend her honor!
I was wondering if he is going to talk about SW holidayspecial, since if I remember right, he first watched it with his sis
One of my favorite RLM jokes is when someone fucks up a famous person's name and they show a completely random image of someone entirely different with the made-up name under it.
Their editing is great
That's Staying in!
MIKE IS WRONG!
Is one of my favourites
The best part is that occasionally they do put the correct person in the image, so if they mention someone who I know nothing about I have no idea if the image is accurate or not
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22:18 - "No, I don't hate you." - Probably the nicest thing anyone has ever said to Rich on camera.
Someone is clearly going to be fired for treating slave rich evans with respect
Someone should crochet that and send it to Rich for Christmas.
I thought Jay was going to say "I don't hate you. I fucking hate you."
Let's not even talk about what people say to him off camera.
One of my favorite bits of "Enrico Morricone" trivia is how 99% of the score he wrote for The Thing went unused for 35 years until Quentin Tarantino asked him to score Hateful Eight. Ennio pulled his unused Thing score out of a drawer, dusted it off and pretty much turned it in as-is and it won the fucking Oscar for Best Original score that year.
Lol. That is a fun fact.
That is awesome.
Had he released it for the Thing, it would not have even been nominated. The Academy loves Tarantino and detests Carpenter for some reason.
@@RettMikhal The academy are a bunch of hack frauds, and I don't mean that in the funny meme sense, but in earnest.
And it is a shame because it is a fun, but a bit trashy Morricone soundtrack. He wrote La Sconosciuta in the 21st Century. Now that is fuckin' great. On the level of his works with Sollima, Petri and Leone.
My aunt almost quit med school because she was afraid of blood. My dad showed her “The Thing” on cable, and years later she has a job dissecting cadavers. The reason why? (In her own words). “Nothing I’ll ever see in real life can be scarier than that movie”.
Your dad is an absolute Chad. Power to them.
I'd be a bit worried around cadavers after that defibrillator scene!
It might be one of his best, if not one of the best horror movies ever made. Just about everything in that movie sticks with you
Thats fantastic!
Sometimes the best way to get over your fears is to face them head on. Your dad clearly thought that.
Wait. As to Rich's theory about Adrienne Barbeau maybe having an affair, then disappearing from Carpenter's later movies. Escape From New York (1981)wasn't her last appearance in a Carpenter film. She voiced the chess computer in The Thing (1982). The chess computer that the character, MacReady, calls a "Cheating b**ch."
I mean....Rich might actually be right...somehow.
That's a really good catch, and it's now 100% confirmed for me based purely on this
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Fun Fact: So John actually didn't use much of Morricone's score for The Thing. The classic "BUM BUM" was Carpenter's doing. Occasionally you can hear some of Morricone's score in the film, but overall he threw out much of it. Tarantino wanted Morricone to compose an original score for The Hateful Eight which is inspired by The Thing. Morricone had obligations for another film he agreed to work on so he told Tarantino he could only write 20-25 minutes of original score that Tarantino could maybe stretch into 40 minutes & then he suggested using the unused parts of The Thing score. So if you want to hear more of The Thing's score just watch The Hateful Eight.
Didn’t Morricone win an Oscar for hateful eight?
@@victorpleitez768 Only because it was in a Tarantino film instead of a John Carpenter film
@@victorpleitez768 He did, and he was nominated for a Razzie for The Thing. Awards don't make sense.
Shouldn’t Morricone have been disqualified for winning an Oscar for Hateful Eight since the academy decided that nominated scores have to be original and not based on or incorporated any previous work?
@@jonnybirchyboy1560 Well it wasn't technically ever used before so...
I'm slowly coming around to the idea that Rich Evans is the main character of the world
He clearly lives in a society
I would be okay with that.
Like the main character of the RLM canon universe or just the main character of Earth?
@@NicholasAdeptus yes, both of those
I legit gasped when Rich said prince of darkness at 14, and then when he said Halloween I audibly said "No!". Jay burning on the inside but just diplomatically saying "I don't ... hate you."
Jay's mouth said I don't hate you, but his eyes said, I will never forgive you.
I don't know if Jay will be able to contain himself if Rich says The Thing for #11.
@@SodapopKevin I will throw my computer out the window
@@jumhook6167 I will pour whiskey into my computer and call it a cheatin' bitch
@@SodapopKevin Holy shit if The Thing isn’t in Rich’s top 5, I will throw every thing in my living into my tv.
"Christopher Reeve was very stiff and awkward"
Too soon, Jay.
And after his birthday..
Shhhesh
It's awful I laughed so hard at this.
@Jarred Knox Yeah I like him in Valley of the Damned I even thought Kirstie Alley wasn't that bad in it but it's still his worst movie
Village of The Damned is a bloody criminally underrated Carpenter film. I don’t have a problem with any of it.
I love John's late-career pivot to focusing on his music. I hope he's having loads of fun, he deserves it.
The albums are fantastic.
His music is great too!
He's always looked old but now that he is old, watching him playing the intruments, he looked quite energetic for his age. Maybe that could be the basis of a new movie for him: old man gets the fountain of Youth by playing music.
He had no choice. Can't get directing jobs anymore.
yeah i didnt knew he was so talented
Leave it to Jay to know the font John Carpenter uses off the top of his head.
"I don't hate you, I'm just disappointed." - Jay's eyes.
I dont hate you - Jay
also jay: its one of the most famous and iconic moives, cynematography is good,etc
Jay tries so hard to hide his disappointment and disgust.
Haa
A friend of mine is a minimalist electronic music composer who has never seen a John Carpenter movie but owned all the soundtracks and went to a horror convention John was appearing at to get his vinyl records signed. When John Carpenter heard that they were BFFs for the rest of the weekend.
I hope this is real that's real rad
John Carpenter is unironically a great composer, some of his soundtracks are lit.
“Finally! Someone cares as much about my movies as me!”
I love Rich and Jay together. Such great friendship and chemistry.
Yeah it's nice to have two guys who get along
"Pizza with pineapple is the best pizza."
"I don't even know who you are anymore."
a nice break from mike just verbally beating the shit out of poor rich evans
Mike must feel like when your cat and dog are hanging out together as pals.
Watching this you'd never believe that Rich has made several attempts on Jay's life.
I actually like that Rich put Halloween so low, one reason I like RLM is that I like hearing new viewpoints instead of just having my opinions regurgitated back at me.
Definitely #1 on my list is Big Trouble in Little China
Halloween is god damn boring
Right? I love that they just dont care how people will react to their opinions on movies. If he doesnt like it, then why pretend otherwise.
@@Jana_Neala One of my favorite things about this channel is their complete disregard for everything that almost every other RUclips channel holds on a pedestal. One million subscribers? Video mocking subscriber-count celebration videos. RUclipsrs are worried about Susan Wikiwiki taking away monetization for talking about [certain disease of unknown origin]? Constant mentions of *CORONAVIRUS* very loudly and specifically. One video ended with them telling everybody to give it a dislike. One video ended with them telling us all "fuck you" and -- if I remember correctly -- literally giving us the finger.
That being said, fuck Rich Evans for his opinion of Halloween. He's wrong.
"I never learned from a man who agreed with me." - Robert A. Heinlein
31:58 Rich: You're all going to hate me.
Me: Oh come on it can't be that bad
Rich: My number 12 is Halloween.
Me: Oh no.....
I audible gasp’d and then started laughing at Jays reaction
Rich is right though! I DO hate him now. ;)
Dark Star has the most accurate depiction of space travel of any film. Space ships in isolated parts of the galaxy will likely be manned by weirdos that are bored out of their mind.
... and run out of toilet paper. That is the sort of realism you don't get in Star Wars or Star Trek :)
Fun fact: Dark Star was Stephen Hawking's favorite sci-fi movie.
@@sleuthentertainment5872 yes, the only thing that actually came to fruition in 2001 was affordable long distance calls.
@@victoriajohnson4420 😂😂😂
@@richyeilding4490 2010 was the bigger embarrassment on that front assuming the Soviet Union and the Cold War would still be a thing in 30 years.
Rich AND his sister "laughing hysterically together" ... grammy material, hands down
Is she hot?
I just imagine Rich Evans and Rich Evans in a blonde wig looking at each other and hyena laughing together, in the same pitch and everything. I bet it was wonderful.
@@WT_Neptune I imagine she resembles Rich, so she must be
@@ryleedulaney this comment is so mean 😂😂
Given the upper octaves Rich's laugh hits on his own, I can only assume that Rich's sister makes Mariah Carey sound like a baritone.
I LOVE this style lol. They both have contrasting taste on what they like yet still give good points that do make sense.
It also makes it interesting that for their last picks on their lists, Rich chose a sci-fi film, and Jay chose a horror-genre film. Their tastes led them to pick films where they were disappointed that the movie wasn't up to Carpenter standards.
I’d love them to do more rankings like this and the Star Trek ones.
@@mmattson8947 is ghost of mars an horror film? For me more like a shlocky action flick. But yeah i can see Rich expecting more of a sci-fi concept and being dissapointed
Instead of furiously typing at Rich's number 12 I just wanna say Rich and Jay videos are wholesome and I love them.
There's nothing wholesome about disliking Halloween. Rich Evans should have to give up his American citizenship for that.
I think people responding this way makes me dislike Halloween quite a bit more actually
@@KnuckleHunkybuck its a lame movie
"I've come to learn I really like SynthWave" - Rich. YES!!! Gunship, The Midnight, Carpenter Brut, Perturbator, Timecop1983, Kavinsky, FM-84, Laserhawk, Mitch Murder... boy howdy you have a run ride ahead Rich!
Jay found a way to get “hey Ted where’s the corkscrew” in there
Look forward to Divine and her "KILL EVERYONE NOW! CONDONE FIRST DEGREE MURDER!" speech in one of the next two videos.
Although he got which Friday its from wrong
Ah yes who could forget that famous scene from F13 part 6 Jason lives. RLM trolling is high level.
@@yewtubemike , Actually, it’s mislabeled. It’s Part 4. Can’t believe RLM messed that up
The theme from Halloween is so effective that one evening I came home from work. I opened my front door and stepped Into my house. There were no lights on and all I could hear was the Halloween theme loudly echoing through out the house. For a split second I instinctively felt an uneasiness and dread before it clicked in my brain that my brother was watching one of the Halloween movies.
A "splint second"? Is that you Rich?
I was walking home late one night and it was playing from
Somewhere in the darkness very loud. Rounded a corner and it was playing inside a pub whos staff and some patrons had a lock in and we’re watching Halloween with the lights off!
Am I the only one currently OBSESSED with the question of whether Rich's sister laughs just like him or not? I can't stop thinking about it. Rich, help me.
Jesus Christ... Now I can't stop thinking about it too 😱
Thanks for giving me a new hyperfixation. I was rather enjoying water colour but now it's all about Rich's laugh but make it femme.
lol her laugh is pitched an octave lower.
05:12 Dark Star
08:13 Escape from L.A.
13:53 Ghosts of Mars
19:13 The Fog
22:06 Prince of Darkness
26:57 Village of the Damned
32:18 Halloween
Good man. Thank you
Thank you man.
Indeed!
Thank you greatly.
Ghost of Mars should be lower, it's horrible.
I loved Rich Evans before, but knowing he likes synthwave makes him even more likeable!
Too bad he doesn't like Halloween.
If only he weren't an unhinged lunatic off-screen
@lietunantURNER Tycho are the tits.
I CLAPPED WHEN HE SAID IT
Jay loves synthwave AND he loves Halloween.
Part 3 of Ranking John Carpenter Movies is already on track to being one of the most popular and successful videos of all time.
*VERY COOL*
They fly now?!
I see what you did there! LOL
@@RobertJRoman They. Fly. Now.
@@enricomarelli2022 Comedy's in three everyone. Theyflynow.
Got to see John Carpenter perform on Halloween a few years ago, that was a real treat. Glad he gets to spend his elder years just playing video games and making cool music with his family
Living the dream.
Its only because studios will not give him money anymore to make movies......Ghosts of Mars was the last time a studio was willing, EVERY movie he has ever made not named Halloween were varying degrees of flop only getting a cult audience on home video.
I stopped feeling bad for the guy when he was asked what he thought about how so many of his films are now so beloved and real cult favorites. His fucking response; "I don't give a shit, Fuck the fans it didn't make me money" fuck him after that.
Pretty wholesome
@@lutherheggs451 bro I'd be salty af too if everyone hated my movies when they came out and only started liking them 40 years later
Luther Heggs EFNY, The Fog did well commercially
I've always felt that the original Halloween was like a ghost story without a ghost. It centres on a tragic and terrifying event in the seemingly distant past, an abandoned house where the terrifying thing happened, and a scholarly character trying to fight the inexplicable evil. I love ghost stories, and that's probably what makes it so memorable for me.
Very well said!
My perspective on Halloween has totally changed.
@@somercet1 I agree to an extent. Some are literally about ghosts as much as memory or anything else, but yeah, the oppressive weight of the past is almost always a distinctive feature.
It did not give me a ghostly feeling at all. It was more of an urban legend feel, but I too did not like it. |д･)
I still think he was possessed as a child. Just look at his blank face not knowing what happened.
i am used to people being right when they hate on older films i adored as a teen cause i have meh taste i guess and grow up rewatch them and realize i was wrong even if its popular the minority with brains who were adults back then who hated on it were right or mostly right.....halloween is not one of those..if you do not love it like you should your wrong....i was right to love it....it surprised me how much more i like it now on rewatch as an adult then when i was younger...its so good....shits on friday the 13th..the only reason i liked the first friday was the twist of mrs. vorhees...the rest of the franchise is shit...even the rest of the first film is meh
I remember watching Ghosts of Mars with my brother when I was like 9, and thinking it was the greatest movie of all time. I never intend to rewatch it, just going to keep my memory of it in my mind.
12 for me, but same.
I loved Escape from LA as a kid. But I also loved Big Trouble in Little China so clearly I had at least some taste
Good call. It's iffy to go home again.
At 12, I thought MEGAFORCE (1983) was the greatest action masterpiece ever made. Haven't seen it since, so it remains a masterpiece as well.
Yes keep it as a good memory
Seeing Carpenter live and watching him do that little old man dance Jay mentioned is a highlight of my life. In The Mouth of Madness slaps so hard live.
I like these types of videos. Two dudes just hanging out with some hand written lists about stuff they like. Pure content
Lmao the fact that Rich thought the kid on the bike from In the Mouth of Madness was John Carpenter is amazing
It was him in uncredited role. One of the earliest attempts at cg de-aging as I recall.
I appreciate that Rich doesn’t care about pandering to anybody and would rather be honest with himself. He has relatable reasons for going against the crowd as well.
Immediately knew Jay’s worst was gonna be Ghosts of Mars
@@almostontimehero5415 Jay is a pretender after all.
Ghosts was going to be an escape moive but still a rumor
It's baffling how terrible Ghosts of Mars is
Ice Cube as Desolation Williams, come on it's great. I look at GOM as a sequal to Boyz In The Hood. The reincarnation of Doughboy.
Ghosts of Mars is probably on lists of worst movies of all time in general.
I love these director spotlight episodes. Jay and Rich give me huge Siskel and Ebert vibes without taking themselves too seriously
They also don't hate eachother
@@AlexG1020 some of them hate each other ??
@@salomaonplanetsaturn6038 Bald guy plus glasses is Jack. Beard plus glasses is Josh.
@@happyhammer1 really?! Wow I had no idea but now I definitely need to watch that hind the scenes stuff
@@salomaonplanetsaturn6038 Jay and Josh (guy with the beard and glasses) episodes are always some of my favourites, they are great together.
Prince of Darkness isn't perfect, but I really like that movie. The tone, and pace of it is just so engaging to me. Even the premise is just kinda cool to me, and how certain things are framed and shot. It's not my favorite Carpenter film, but it's up there.
I agree that it's one of Carpenter's better movies. There's a lot of good stuff in Prince of Darkness. But it's also...kinda problematic, especially in its later acts. The first half of the film promises a lot more than it ends up delivering. The premise really is fascinating. A potentially apocalyptic threat that requires science and religion working together to stop it. POD starts out as a legitimately cerebral horror / thriller. I just feel like it jumps the rails and settles into something more conventional and less interesting. The ending is great though.
i thought it was amazing.
Ditto! That movie blew me away as a kid.
So sad to hear that Mike drank himself to death after watching the trailer for Picard season two.
Oh no! Is that actually out... I don't think I can bring myself to watch it. After the last season of Discovery, Picard & Lower Deck... I just can't watch any more 'new Star Trek'. I've just ended up watching random clips of Quark on RUclips.
The best thing about seeing a new RLM video is dropping everything for 40 minutes to watch it; the worst is that it only takes 40 minutes until your waiting for a new RLM video.
do not joke about drops
I now need to know what Rich Evans sisters laugh sounds like...
Underrated comment 😂👍
No wine glasses in the room :D
The baritone to Rich’s soprano?
We'll never know because the frequency is so high, mics can't pick it up.
I got ten bucks on Michael Clarke Duncan through an amplifier.
Someone once explained to me the "fear" of Halloween movies--Michael Myers skulks around being creepy and doesn't actually do anything you could call the police on him for, until he starts killing people and then there's no help. It's something resonated with a lot of people, especially women. It's the helplessness and dread of it that you know he's no good but you can't actually do anything to stop him short of killing him first but you don't know he's THAT bad yet.
Or you can buy a gun and learn to legally conceal and use it.
That's it. That's why the first Halloween works so well. It's not some fairytale monster, it's not an over the top serial killer, no. It's a guy in a mask watching you from afar, getting ever more close. He doesn't speak, you don't know what he wants, but the moment you watch outside your window at night, he is there watching you. That's terrifying. That's real, too real sadly. Later iterations they made him an invincible spirit of vengeange, which is boring horror b-movie stuff.
I want Jay's shirt.
I hope they make it in men's sizes.
"Better order some MILK and COOKIES boy so you can get BIG and STRONG, ah ha ha ha ha"
I saw it on amazon when looking for Halloween shirts.
@@karma_monkey Can you find it again? What was it called? I seriously want to buy it for hanging out with friends on Halloween.
@@maddestmurph I also want to find that exact shirt. I've seen similar, inferior ones, but I want this one, dagnabbit!
@@maddestmurph iirc it was for a max steel toy.
Jays impression of the 'Old Man Dance' will always warm my heart from now on
John Carpenter is my favorite director. The man has no effs to give. I saw him do a Q&A in Hollywood back in 2010 and he ended it by saying, "Let's get close to wrapping up. I have to go meet my drug dealer pretty soon."
lol
Words of the wise
Saw John Carpenter live a few years ago on Halloween night. It was awesome. He played the main themes from his films with clips from his films projected behind the band.
I’m 100% convinced that Rich Evan’s “sister” is just Rich Evans in drag , ala Jack and Jill.
Stay tuned for part 2, I'm hoping for a sleepaway camp type reveal! "He" has been in drag this whole time!
Maybe the Rich Evans that we see is actually his sister?
Now I have Rich Evans singing "You want creamy goodness, I'm your friend. Say hello to my chocolate blend" in my head
Rich And his sister “laughing hysterically together “…Grammy material hands down
Rich evans is beyond such silly concepts like gender. In terms mankind can understand he is living god who walks among us. Or maybe he is just a funny guy on internet. Pick your poison
Wow, Rich is looking great. Good for him for getting more in shape.
He ages like fine wine.
Yeah in shape to be your mom.
Round is a shape
Not into the Halloween 'shape' though.
nugenix!
Fun fact about that beach ball in Dark Star: In The Thing, when the dog splits open there is a flower like appendage made of dog tongues with teeth. That prop is actually the feet of the beach ball alien in Dark Star
Wow that's awesome
Fantastic movie trivia! Never knew that…now I do. Gracias amigo. 👍🏻
Hell yeah
"Mom can we go see the new Doom movie?"
"No, we have Doom at home."
At home... (Ghosts of Mars dvd)
Uh, sounds like horrible punishment in both cases, who would want to watch doom the movie ?
@@Enkabard lol, which one?
@@lazerhosen Good question, the answer is yes.
In a twist of fate, they published this while I'm at the gym and 3 of the 5 TVs are playing Night Court reruns.
You're welcome.
that's wild... take care tonight Kellen, you might be haunted
wtf what kind of gym plays night court reruns?
Work them glutes
@Kellen Johnson. H. S. Plinkett approves!
A Pam Grier lead Ghosts of Mars is the best idea Jay has had in years.
But it would have still been a garbage movie, but with a different actor.....A Ghosts of Mars with a good script sounds alot better. Its literally the only god awful Jason Statham movie. It was also the final straw for studios actually giving him money to make movies.
3. They live.
2. The Thing
1. Big Trouble in little China.
That's my top 3
Big trouble in little China have the best theme song :D
The part of the conversation where Jay says, "It's creepy because he has no motive!" and Rich is like "Ehhhhh..." feels like a conversation my brother and I would have. It's like a I get it, but it doesn't do it for me. Like the big reveal at the end of The Strangers. My brother thought it was the greatest thing ever. I don't know why, but the "no motive/random act of violence thing" doesn't do it for me.
As someone who's also sour on the original Halloween, it's one of those ideas that's fun intellectually but makes for a boring time to sit through. "We'll never explain why this guy is doing this" is fine for a short but you'll need really interesting protagonists to compensate for that in order to sustain a feature and Laurie Strode just isn't that deep for me.
lol When you have those conversations with your brother, does he have shrill voice that can break glass like this guy? :D
I just like the Rich Evans dismissal of "he kills a couple of teenagers". Who amongst us, right?
Rich's Halloween pick actually made me go "oh, ok, that's fine" because after all that build up I thought he was gonna say The Thing.
Same, that would have made me legitimately upset.
I'm expecting The Thing to be top 3 for both
I figured either Halloween or In the Mouth of Madness then with the buildup i was sure it was Halloween
If he did, this video would’ve never been uploaded because Jay would’ve pounced and destroyed him
Jay is right about 'Halloween'.. So many things has been said about the movie and it's brilliant direction, so I mention one subtle detail that most horror movies with big budgets don't get right. The build up.. Laurie and her friends just talk about mundane things.. There are some minor scares along the way, but it's daylight, so no problem. But it gets darker and darker... You don't need gore with this kind of talent.
“What excuse can I come up with to rewatch all the John Carpenter movies?”
I actually really appreciate the contrasting tastes when it comes to a list like this. Thanks Jay and Rich! Looking forward to parts 2 and 3!
I can't believe Mike, in a fit of drunken rage, deleted parts 2 and 3 of this series
Everyone kicks ass of course, but Jay and Rich’s chemistry is *chefs kiss*
John Carpenter, Steve Martin, and Christopher Lloyd are all stars that have looked like they are 80 years old for the last 40 years.
Steve Martin? No.
@@turtleflipper9935 all I'm saying is the dude has had gray hair since he was in his thirties.
Steve Martin certainly looked older than he was. I always remember his character in Parenthood saying "I'm 35" and thinking it was ridiculous as he seemed more like 55. (He was actually 46 at the time).
It's depressing how much of your life is spent being old.
Steve Martin is a banjo player and kills it....love his music
I still remember the funniest movie review I’ve EVER read in my entire life for “Escape from L.A.”. The review was “Escape from the movie theatre!”.
Escape from L.A was god awful, However Ghosts of Mars was worse. There was almost nothing good about Ghosts of Mars, atleast there were some kinda cool-ish things about Escape from L.A.
My all time favorite capsule review was in Musician magazine 30 years ago. Each album review had a paragraph or two. But then came this gem (this is the only review of any kind I’ve ever memorized):
Artist: Debbie Gibson
Album: Anything is Possible
Review:
Except me liking this.
Man, I love Prince of Darkness. Like you said, I can see why people dislike it, but I find it such an interesting movie. I love the slow burn, the atmosphere and the ideas he has in that movie. It's so interesting and different. The feeling of doom and the open ending, like in The Thing, are so awesome!
It's one of the very few movies I'd actually love to see remade.
Here’s my top 3 Carpenter Movies:
1) The Thing
2) The Thing
3) The Thing
I agree. But I’d put The Thing as my number two and then The Thing as my number one.
@@itsd0nk Yeah but I think you’re forgetting about The Thing
I love Dark Star. It’s an amazing movie. Without Dark Star we wouldn’t have Alien! And yeah. I love Carpenter, Verhoeven and Cronenberg. Without the 80s the world today would suck even harder!
Carpenter and verhoven are in my top 3 favourite directors along with walter hill.
As a synthwave lover, hearing Rich Evans say out loud he loves synthwave has just made my year
One of the greatest assets in Carpenter's earlier films was the god-tier cinematography of Dean Cundey.
The award winning cinematographer from such hits like Jack and Jill?
@@radhinkabagaskara5595guess he had some bills to pay and showed up for the bare minimum
That man's career was amazing up until the mid-90's when he just apparently gave up and lost all creative drive...
The Fog, Prince of Darkness, and Halloween being that low for Rich is tearing me apart !! Very excited for part 2 and 3!!
Rich's list:
11: The Thing
10: Escape from New York
9: Big Trouble in Little China
8: They Live
7: Assault on Precinct 13
6: In The Mouth of Madness
5: Christine
4: Starman
3: Memoirs of an Invisible Man
2: Vampires
1: The Ward
@@rockduded8925 Christine is a good goddamn movie.
When he was leading into what was his #12 with "You're [Jay] going to hate me. You're [viewer] going to hate me.", I was thinking "Whatever, I'm not a huge John Carpenter fan, and I'm sure it can't be Halloween, right? *It can't be Halloween, right‽* ".
Man, I think The Fog is a top 3 Carpenter film for me. So rough!
Rich simply doesn't have a clue what makes a good movie. His brain is triggered by giant space ships crashing into planets and that's about it.
I remember when I realized that Big Trouble in Little China, They Live, Halloween, and The Thing were by the same dude as a kid. Even if some of his stuff has been kind of weak, dude's had more influence than just about any other filmmaker for me.
@@oh-not-the-bees7872 Aliens was James Cameron, not John Carpenter. Doesn't help that their names are so similar though.
@@gasgrave5386 That might be the nicest correction I've ever seen.
But yeah, I'd say there are a couple that are arguably more influential, Lucas or Spielberg maybe. Carpenter's definitely up there though
Same here. Funnily, about half a year ago I finally decided to do a John Carpenter marathon, watched or rewatched about 12 of his movies back to back, and although there are a few duds, it was a great ride :)
When Rich said he watched it with his sister, I got Adam Sandler in Jack and Jill images.
lol omgggggggggg
While reading this comment, I got Pepto Bismol flashbacks.
Love hearing Rich talk and share opinions etc without having the piss taken out of him. Love Mike but prefer to hear rich actually speak and be confident
He should do a zombie-western and fulfill two of his dreams
"The Quick and the Undead "
A territory not tapped enough, in my opinion.
I saw Prince Of Darkness as a kid multiple times on our local station's late late movie and it scared the hell out of me. Back in the early nineties, our low-def cable channel's picture quality made it look so raw and brutal, especially the "found footage" scenes. And every time I saw it, I missed the 1st few minutes and had no idea what the film was called as our TV guide would just label it "movie" and then the credits were cut off. I had no idea what film I'd seen despite seeing it at least 3 times before the age of 14 and it wasn't until I rented it as a college student years later (having no idea what I was renting outside of it being a Carpenter film) that I found out. I've loved it ever since, flaws and all and it gave me a great appreciation for Donald Pleasence.
That movie was and will always be terrifying.
Yeah,Don P really sells that sh*t! But that's the point, no? I enjoyed his dedication to acting -lent a certain amount of credence to his characters. 👍👍
@@anthonypersons7212 literally one of the most atmospheric and thought provoking horror movies I've ever witnessed. The sense of inescapable dread is so unsettling. The only reason that movie does not hold up entirely, is they named the year at which the Antichrist returns. Since that didn't happen, it loses some impact. I'm getting the spooks sitting here typing just thinking about that damned movie. Mid budget masterpiece. :0
Bro same, except I just found out the name a couple days ago lmao.
When Jay said Christopher Reeve was stiff and awkward, I was waiting for a really dark joke to follow that.
That’s a Mike joke lol
Quit horsin' around.
@@moins_vif exactly!!
Mike wasn't there
I need more videos like this, ranking the whole filmography of different directors.
You guys are the best!!!!
You perfectly predicted my reaction to Rich's number 12. That being said: Rich has almost only good things to say about Halloween. "it has the perfect ending", "it has the perfect score". He just doesn't like slasher movies apparently... and dumb psychiatrists.
I'm basically in the same boat, slasher movies just don't do anything for me even as someone who likes horror.
The weird thing is I love Halloween for the reason they kind of hate on it, I've never been a gore hound, I feel it like nonstop action in my film, I want some meat and potatoes to go with my dessert otherwise it's kinda boring. This is probably why I love movies like "The Thing" sure it's gory but it's for a purpose, to unnerve us, it's not just "hey lets see this cool effect we made!!!!"
I like the supernatural slasher movies, because stuff can get crazy, but a guy with a knife isn't scary conceptually. I mean, it is, in the sense that they could stab you, but you at least have a chance you could beat them up compared to some supernatural entity or monster.
@@ForwardSynthesis On the other hand, a guy with a knife is real. You are unlikely to get murdered by an extradimensional entity, but guys with knives are everywhere.
@@nathanhoffmann1747 That's another reason it's not good horror (though I think Halloween is a great movie otherwise). I'm not scared of the existence of guys with knives. I'd be scared if someone appeared before me with a knife and tried to kill me, but that's not the same as something being horrific conceptually. Some things just aren't "horror" even if they could easily kill you.
"You're going to hate me for this. You're all going to hate me for this."
Rich, you can't betray my heart any more than you already have by putting Dark Star in dead last.
I honestly thought he was going to say The Thing or Big Trouble in Little China for his #12 spot, and I was fully prepared to light myself on fire and run into traffic.
Dark star is amazingly forgettable and boring
@@djangofett4879 That's what they said for The Thing back in '82
Personally....I love Dark Star. Especially the score. Pure early JC.
The moment he interprets something as film-student level quality it’s all downhill from there
Holy fuck did I laugh hard at Rich thinking John Carpenter had a cameo in _In The Mouth of Madness_
Jay holding back from fully tearing into Rich's mistake by rationalizing it himself, is priceless
@@ZyxthePest I guess one Tums Festival was enough.
They're definitely right about Halloween suffering from the movies that came after it. My experience was much like Jay's-Halloween came out the year I was born, so I ended up not seeing it until like 19 years after its release. By that time, every other 80's/90's horror movie of my adolescence had ripped it off and amped it up much that it was predictable and hard to appreciate without approaching it from a film-making mindset. So while I do think Halloween is a classic masterpiece, it reminds me of a wonderful food item from a local restaurant that gets watered down and played out once the recipe gets acquired and used by a national franchise chain.
31:58: I don’t hate Rich Evans…but I’m eyeing him, very suspiciously.
I love “Halloween”. It’s esp good since it didn’t rely on gore. The ending’s iconic: Was it the boogeyman?” “As a matter of fact…it was.”
10:16
Rich: you know what?
*cuts to plane flying towards the twin towers*
Rich: this could probably be a lot better with a bigger budget
Also: I TOTALLY want Jay's shirt. Gimme.
Where can we get it?
anyone know where to get one?
RICH EVANS LITERALLY ASSAULTS HIS AUDIENCE THROUGH THE SCREEN BY PLACING HALLOWEEN UNDER THE WARD.
Yeah, the ward was pretty rough.
*Scruffy doesn't like this*
Scruffy, the janitor
I appreciate Halloween, but I don't care for it. Same with The Fog and Prince of Darkness. I think The Thing is Carpenter's best movie because it is almost perfect and always interesting to watch.
Same. There's just something so mundane about a human like creature killing suburbanites for literally no reason, and with no well established rules for how they function. I get the ambiguity is supposed to make it more frightening, but it still follows in the footsteps of other well established tropes like scary kids, Hitchcockian murder cam, and bumbling escapees. The filmmaking is clearly competent, and the score is easily the best part, but the only thing new it adds to the equation is the feeling of proximity.
Calling it now, neither will have The Thing in #1 spot, even though they both probably think it's his best movie, they have spent too much time around Mike 'Contrarian' Stoklasa.
@@lachyt5247 It's their opinion and I don't think Mike has anything to do with it. Their list isn't set in stone and everyone has to go along with it. Opinions change, people change...except Star Wars, that was always nonsense.
@@lachyt5247 Jay already told Collin-From-Canada that his favorite Carpenter film is Escape From New York.
Ghosts of Mars feels like Carpenter decided to remake Escape From New York, The Fog, Assault On Precinct 13 and The Thing at once.
And then decided it was a bad idea after he started filming and just decided to phone it in.
I was really, really, really hoping Rich wouldn't say The Thing. Literally clutching non-existent pearls.
Same!
I was on the verge of panic.
I was definitely going to be furiously tapping away at my keyboard if that happened.
I thought it would be escape from New York
I haven't seen a few but my list would be something like
1. The Thing
2. Starman
3. They Live
4. Christine
5. Big Trouble in Little China
6. Assault on Precinct 13
7. Halloween
8. The Fog
9. Escape from New York
10. Dark Star
11. Village of the Damned
12. Vampires
13. Escape from L. A.
15. The Ward
16. Ghosts of Mars
The Fog is a flawed masterpiece if there ever was one. The cast, the music, the cinematography, atmosphere, concept - everything but the execution of the story is _absolutely_ top tier. I totally get why some people don't like it, because it's essentially not very good at all from a story perspective, but it's my #3 Carpenter unashamedly.
Seems odd its set in California. Feels like a Maine movie. It is enjoyable.
Oh man that opening scene and the music sets the tone perfectly. Definately one my my top 5.
@@GrumpyNorthman It has such a unique gloomy tone that no other film has been able to replicate. It _feels_ ghostly.
@@johnm.withersiv4352 Do you say that because Stephen King sets loads of his stories in Maine, and he wrote The Mist (turned into a movie) which sounds similar to The Fog?
The Fog is so perfect, I wish more people appreciated it. The music is amazing
I love that a lot of the introductions to the movies started with rich saying you’re gonna hate me and jay saying that’s fair.
Finally, they’re discussing a topic I actually know about. Can’t wait to get irrationally angry throughout this series
18: Ghosts of Mars
17: The Ward
16: Vampires
15: Village of the Damned
14: Prince of Darkness
13: In the Mouth of Madness
12: Memoirs of an Invisible Man
11: Escape From LA
10: Assault on Precinct 13
9: The Fog
8: Escape From New York
7: They Live
6: Big Trouble in Little China
5: Dark Star
4: Christine
3: Halloween
2: Star Man
1: The Thing
My brain while I wait for part 2 of 3: "You’re gonna have to sleep sometime, MacReady."
"I'm a real light sleeper, childs"
When it immediately gets copyrighted: "It's gone Macready."
I actually enjoyed Dark Star quite a bit, but I've been conditioned by old school BBC scifi like Doctor Who, Red Dwarf and the H2G2 mini series so I'm probably not very objective
Red Dwarf was so damn funny though and the minis were really good
When Rich said Halloween his setup made me feel like he was going to say Big Trouble in Little China, I was prepared to riot.
I was really afraid he'd say The Thing because he's never seen it before.
@@Horatio787 I was sure he was going to say The Thing too.
Nah I definitely think Rich's #1 is going to be Big Trouble in Little China. It's a very Rich movie. Mike has said his favorite is The Thing (I think in The Blob Re:View, or maybe in one of the commentary tracks?) and Jay has said his favorite is Escape from NY.
If BTILC, Escape from New York, They Live and The Thing aren't in the top 10 then we riot.
I love how this ends in a push-top pen click ... so satisfying.