Kyle Hill Plays History's Best Worst Standard | Shuffle Up & Play #6 | Magic: The Gathering Gameplay
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▶In this episode Kyle Hill pretends to be Brian Kibler and plays his famous "Red Zone Deck" circa 2000 against Voxy who is piloting Kai Budde's "Rebels" Pro Tour winning deck!
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Voxy: / voxy
Kyle Hill: / kylehillscience
►Deck Lists
Red Zone - Brian Kibler (Pro Tour 2000): archidekt.com/decks/3010380
Rebels - Kai Budde (Pro Tour 2000): archidekt.com/decks/3010399
►Credits
Lead Editor: Kevyn Wallace
Assistant Lead Director: Nick Snyder
Music / SFX: Def Cat @defcatofficial
Intro VFX: Kyle Sullivan, Kevyn Wallace
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Um JUDGE! Those basic lands are CLEARLY from 2021 and, as such, represent a dire time paradox within the board state
Truly a crime against humanity.
Honestly, this bothered me for the whole video
UNACCEPTABLE!
The Blastoderm was also printed in 2009 in the Liliana versus Garruk dual deck.
So many time paradoxes
That BOP was M12, I lost my mind.
This was very fun. Hope you enjoy. And if you don't know who Brian Kibler is or the fact that we look VERY similar...sorry? (Also go easy on me I've literally never played Modern.)
Thanks again for being a guest, Brian.
When are you going to play the turing machine deck on this show?
Your impersonation was pristine, I hope to see you again on shuffle up & play as yourself.
That’s not Brian Kibler, that’s Blian Kibler because he b-lyin’ about his real identity… I’ll show myself out
Hey Kyle... uh... Kibs, you might've been thinking about Vraska, Swarm's Eminence: cdn1.mtggoldfish.com/images/h/Vraska-Swarms-Eminence-WAR-265.jpg
8:40 The red zone is where creatures go when they attack. At professional events in the year of our Lord 2000, there was an area at the top of the playmat that was red, and players were supposed to move creatures there while they were attacking. Supposedly, this made viewing easier for those watching at home on the old 640x480 displays. So a deck with "red zone" in the name was an attack deck.
is it? all I saw was mana, mana, mana, mana and self pinging land -_-; which they kept doing pointlessly heh.
Love these cosplay matches, Kibler vs. Rogue from the X-Men, all moderated by Micheal Jackson from the Moonwalker videogame. Keep it up!!
Or you can say it was moderated by the killing joke joker
The real question is which version? Arcade or the Genesis port? The arcade version would work also if the Prof's suit was red, and I think blue. Sucks cuz of the licensing nightmare the game is, we ll never get a Steam/Switch port of the Moonwalker arcade game.
You forgot to mention Thor,
Again, we love Brian Kibler, he is a friend, and he was supposed to be on this episode but got hella sick at the last minute and had to cancel. If you crave more pro on the show, check out when I had Cedric Phillips vs Patrick Sullivan face off against each other in Modern: ruclips.net/video/eMcJe_VWUfU/видео.html
hella
Wait, that wasn't Brian Kibbler???
Are you sure?
EDIT: Poor sad Thor.
And here I thought you were just feeding into the Kibler/Kyle Hill meme! Clearly you need to have Kibler show up to play a Kyle Hill EDH deck.
That’s awesome I love Cedric and I love you so I’m excited to see you play each other
ah yes reminds me of that time in vegas when i mistook Kyle for Brian. good embarrassing times 😂
My sincere hope is that newer magic players can find this video and can just bask in awe that the Prof got Brian Kibbler, a Magic HoF player, onto his show. What a get!
he plays hearthstone now last i saw
I'm new to magic
You mean Brian “Please Don’t Call Me Brian ‘Brian Kibler’ Kibler” Kibler, of Brian Kibler fame
@@HalianTheProtogen The very same Brian Kibler.
I just started Magic with my oldest son today. First day. Had a tonne of fun. Found this channel and this video found me. I loved the interactions. I am loving this game.
"BM means taking a *Jin Gitaxias*"
I laughed way too hard at that
I'm going to start saying that "I'm going to take a Jin Gitaxias"
I thought it was a fart, but I accidentally Jin Gitaxias my pants.
these censors were great.
Me too!
I don't know if this is a reference, but back when Craig Ferguson did the Late, Late Show and he got censored, they'd put a small image (usually some country's flag) and some stereotypical voiceover (like pairing the French flag with "Ooh la la") as a replacement. That always cracked me up. This feels very much in that vein.
My favorite part was when Brian Kibler said "it's Kibling time" and then Kibled his cards.
One of the pro players of all time
My favorite part was when this dumb meme died
Low key hoping kibbler pretends to be kyle in an episode now
Kyle comes as kibbler in an episode with kibbler and the final boss is the prof, as kibbler
It was called “Red Zone” because in the PT playmats the middle area where creature combat happened was a red strip.
Thank you for striking out the sportsball myths. I was worried for a moment...
Also on Magic Online, when you go to combat, the red strip appears to show clearly which creatures are currently attacking. Attacking creatures get moved in the Red Zone. I'm not sure if this feature was around in 2000, or if it was added later though.
@@christopherlundgren1700 MODO wasn’t even in development then. I was playing on the Interactive Encyclopedia back then, WotC’s first attempt at online play.
I was about to comment the same thing.
@@85mcarnold Oh yeah fair enough. I guess MODO started in 2002.
I see Prof just got back from the grand opening of his new theme park with real dinosaurs where everything will always work perfectly and there's no danger for anyone.
He spared no expense
DYE NO D N A
Ixalan Park?
Blastoderm should have stuck around for one more turn, as Fading instructs you to sacrifice the creature when you CAN’T remove a counter. This would have made a lethal crackback after removing the Parralax Wave. Vanishing is the Time Spiral “fixed” version of Fading which has you sacrifice the creature when the last counter is removed.
My thoughts exactly. Fading was confusing at the time, you had to be careful with these rules at the time.
Exactly that. I think the idea behind Fading was to have the number express how many turns you could attack with it?
Yeah, this was a little sad being like "oh no, he just described Vanishing...nooooooo"
It seems to have changed the outcome of both games as well! 😬 great guests, gameplay, and production as always but it is always unfortunate to have something like this happen
Right. Fading and Vanishing are different. Reading the card explains the card.
The professor just walked in from the final scene of Silence of the Lambs
Now we know why Kibler canceled. He was asked to bring some Fava beans and a nice Chianti for dinner with an old friend.
He just walked in off the blacktop in 1995
Thank you.
Thor vs. Rogue in Magic The Gathering is the Marvel crossover we never knew we needed.
You'd think Thor would play more Lightning Bolts and Rogue would play more drain effects...
Underrated comment
@@KingOfDoma Well, Rogue was already borrowing someone else’s powers. And Thor was having an off day.
@@KingOfDoma Thor shouldn't play lightning bolts near the Professor; that'll trigger his ability to remind everyone that that's what causes magnetism in things.
Hey, just wanted to point out you got Fading confused with Vanishing. With a fading creature, you must remove a counter each upkeep and you only sacrifice the creature if you are unable to do so. The Blastoderm in both games should have remained on the battlefield for an additional turn. The newer Vanishing keyword causes the permanent to sacrifice when the last counter is removed, which is how you played Fading here.
Did they read the card? Reading the card explains the card.
They're both basically just kicker anyway.
these comments are unhelpful but fitting
@@RaunienTheFirst How does companion work then?
@@Sivarias angryNPC.png
20:17 three cards have or give planeswalker deathtouch: Hooded Blightfang, Zagras, Thief of Heartbeats, and the tokens made by Vraska, Swarm's Eminence.
Zagras, Thief of Heartbeats is the planeswalker deathtouch and also a wall of text. This spell costs 1 less to cast for each creature in your party. Flying, deathtouch, haste. Other creatures you control have deathtouch. Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a planeswalker, destroy that planeswalker.
Also the assassin tokens made by vraska, swarm's eminence (the wots one)
Also hooded Blightfang, which has "whenever a creature you control with deathtouch deals damage to a planeswalker, destroy that planeswalker." So it has an anthem style effect and isn't just limited to combat damage.
Not exactly deathtouch, but Thief of Blood will kill all planeswalkers in play on ETB.
@@MrMartinSchou Ah, Thief of Blood. My favorite method of breaking Dark Depths.
Never seen the card, but “Thief of Heartbeats” is a pretty sweet title.
I ran Budde's rebels in this format and will likely be fading to dust soon.
And the to hit armor class 0 name, you are one of our gaming elder dragons.
The fact that none of them properly remembered what Questing Beast is is hilarious to me.
Trauma from Questing Beast caused them to repress those memories.
its like remembering what half of new cards are especially strixhaven. Double sided cards where each side is a book
I have a hard time remembering cards too, so many out there, and all the new ones that come out frequently. Its tough unless you've played with certain cards a lot, or against them a lot. Then again, I'm a kitchen table kind of player.
Its so funny to me that they were all convinced it wasn't legendary when it definitely is.
I love the chill vibes of this series, its not overlyproduced and focuses on the personalities. good stuff, proff!
Thanks!
Never thought I would see Thor and Jean Grey play Magic cards against each other while the Kingpin, Wilson Fisk says a bunch of dad jokes
Glad I wasn’t the only one that thought that lol
Underrated comment.
You mean Rogue
Jean Grey? Sassy southern attitude, white streak in the hair, wears mostly green. That is clearly Rogue.
Gotta thumbs down when it it is clearly Rogue and not Jean.
The only-half-joking panic in Kyle's "Don't put that into the universe" really got me laughing haha.
Apologies for all the people that are going to start dubbing Kyle "Budget Brian Kibbler"
I prefer "The Brian Kibbler at home".
@@disco_falcon1895 This comment is so much funnier in hindsight now that Kibler has started Commander At Home.
This is like Reverse pauper: very strong lands, and terrible everything else
22:57 Blastoderm has fading, not vanishing!
It checks if it can remove counters, not if it has any on it.
There is a turn where Blastoderm stays on the battlefield with no counters, and gets sacrificed the next upkeep.
Drove me crazy that they both did this. It's written on the card.
SERIOUSLY?
to be fair, no less than 5 people in the room missed this
@@kylehill - Reading the card something something ….. 😏
@@kylehill Truth right there. All good though, I know in the middle of playing mistakes are made, and on the replay everyone goes through with a magnifying glass to analyze everything.
Fantastic episode! Also BM is “modern” but it’s been a thing in gaming for a good bit, especially games with in game chat, not just Twitch Chat
It's been on Urban Dictionary for at least 15 years. Originated from the Korean Starcraft community, as I understand it.
@@JediMB This is good information and I thank you for presenting it, but it also doesn’t invalidate Kyle and Prof’s point that it has stood for “bowel movement” for much longer.
@@TheComicBookJoker Well, it wasn't supposed to comment on the older meaning at all. Just clarifying that the "new" meaning is about as old as RUclips, if not older.
25 Nov 2003 · BM & GM = Bad Manner and Good Manner tlnet forum post
1998 there was a starcraft player known as BM
1996 there was a mention of BM in Korean. (Not sure if they meant Bad Manner)
I also found tons of examples of BM meaning other things:
??: BitMap, BumpMap, Background Music (normally BGM)
1997: Ballistic Missile
1995: Bohmian Mechanics
1990: BenchMark, Basilar Membrane
1974: Binocular Microscope
1970: Black Man
I feel like the professor doesn’t get enough love for his impeccable costumes and commitment to them
The prof was in this video? Where? I only see two Brian Kiblers. 🤔
I feel that prof doesn’t get enough love period he’s by far my favorite mtg content creator I love his whole vibe he seems like he would be a great person even in person and his videos that lend to help others both customers while purchasing and what to look out for and the best deals possible to his shoutouts for products that don’t even support him just goes to show how much he cares for the community as a whole speaks volumes to how great a fella he really must be props to you prof freakin love you and your content man I hope one day wizards will accommodate you to the level you deserve if anyone ever deserved a HoF placement by proxy it’s the prof lbh
Can't believe Thor, He Who Bears The Wisdom Of Magnets, returned on the channel!
i just can't believe that episode still, i still reel from sympathetic pain from Kyle's emotions.
Mom, can we get a Brian Kibler?
We've got Brian Kibler at home (Kyle Hill)
The covering up of bad words by saying "bad guy" names is a fantastic addition lmao
It makes the moments where they are simply muted even funner, too. It's fun being able to read lips
Silly question. Why did Mister Kibler take a damage on turn two? His land only causes damage if it taps for a red or greeen. He takes no damage if it taps for a colorless. (His creature cost green and one. He tapped a forest and the Karplusan Forest.)
Haha saw that and headed to the comments to make sure I wasn't crazy.
The intimidation of hurting yourself for no reason is worth the damage, you're showing your opponent "I could beat you at any health total!"
He tapped the land that damages him for green and then used the forest to pay the 1 generic. Why? I don't know, but I am not in the Hall of Fame like BM Kibler, so it must be a play too advanced for us mere mortals to understand.
@@OscatJ This is the real answer.
I think they also sacked the derm a turn early
Kyle, you forgot to say, "P the T" when your turn ends.
Love this series btw. Its good fun and very laid back with plenty of smiling/laughing.
But "pass" and "turn" are also both 1 syllable words... And "p the t" changes the possible mishear from "pass the turd" to "pee the tea" and that's just an entirely different form of potty talk. I just can't abide this acronym speech pattern. No siree.
The Prof is unironically one of the coolest people in the magic community. I love him so much
On this episode of Shuffle Gear and Play: The Professor takes a Jin Ghitaxis, Kyle climbs over a mountain to discover a Hill on the other side, and Voxy goes to Applebee's on a 5$ dollar budget ;p
DA DAA DAAH DAAH DA DA DADAAAAAH
Brian looks like he's going to welcome us to Jurassic Park
The aesthetic of professors set truly looks like a local library or community college club room. I absolutely love that. You’re such a legend.
When the colorless mana was floated from Dust Bowl during her upkeep after being tapped down, you could've brought up the fact that "mana burn" was still a thing in 2000.
I thought the same thing.
Old decks, old standard, use the old rules. Make those newbies realize why having mana outlets was important back in the day.
LOOOVE this series! paper magic in a casual 1v1 environment with cutthroat decks from another day. what a lovely concept!
Every episode I think, "This episode was my favourite so far, how can it get any better". Then a new episode drops and I smile for roughly an hour.
Thanks Prof.
This is, as of current, one of the best Magic gameplay videos out there. Absolutely love the variety of MTG formats and the engagement just adds the cherry on top. Excellent work Prof and team! As well as everyone invited to play!
I would love to see you three play more games like that. Hard day at work today and I only relaxed after 30minutes of this video. Thanks a lot for the quality content end enjoyment!
It's really boring, because I am writing this below every new episode of "shuffle up and play"...but I feel like that just every time...THANK YOU! for the great entertainment! Really enjoyed your guests and the video!
This is the best gameplay show. I love seeing the different formats. I love the guests. Can't wait to see what else is in store
The Patreon notifications really help me watch the videos as soon as possible after they post and shuffle up n play is one that I always want to watch right away
Always love seeing magic being played and enjoy the guests and commentary along the way, but I wanted to say a huge shout out to the editor. The little touches and effects go a long way for making the content always that much more enjoyable. Great stuff
Honestly I hadent even thought of Magic The Gathering since my college days. This channel has brought me back into the fold! Keep up the hard work
This is now my favourite MTG content on the Tubes. Thanks Prof.
Very fun watch, love the chemistry you all have. I'm a new old player, and I learned quite a bit, thank you.
i am loving this series more and more at each episode, keep up the amazing work!
19:32
You might be thinking of Hooded Blightfang, which gives all creatures you control with deathtouch the ability to destroy planeswalkers upon damage.
Or possibly - Zagras, Thief of Heartbeats.
He has a similar damage destroys planeswalkers
Prof... this might be the best one of these I've seen. 1) I played that horrible BM deck, 2) as an old guy the banter made me chuckle
This show really strikes the perfect balance between "friends hanging out" and "professional quality gameplay show." Many gameplay series go too hard one way or the other (but are still very good!), but this one just makes me happiest. Good job, Prof!
This series is so much fun to watch and very successfully hitting a niche in terms of game play footage. Congratulations on the show Professor!
Everyone is hyped about Brian, but what about Kai Budde sitting across from him?
Great game, so nostalgic seeing this! Just as an interesting note, Voxy could have used the parallax wave to exile her own creatures in response to it being destroyed, that way they would come back untapped, "canceling" her attack, at least partially to save specific creatures if she wanted
Was just looking for this. Could have saved all her creatures and had blockers next turn.
the fact that both kiblers, whilst being cocky, fell prey to the same little destructo blocker with the same jade leech was the true "chefs kiss" of this video XD fit well with the back in time theme too since it was a bizarrely perfect example of deja vu
Didn’t understand at first, but as video went on it all made sense and extremely entertaining! Great improve by all! Liked the older simple cards, nice throwback!
Keep this theme and 3-man team in your line-up 👍
I can´t unsee Voxy cosplaying as Rogue.
I love the chemistry everyone has with the Professor. This series has been great!
This was sooo good, too many good moments to choose one. Keep it up Prof, props all around. Had me laughin from the intro.
I need more Shuffle up & Play! I haven't played the game in years, but this series reminds me of those good times playing with friends.
so cool we got to see the scarlet witch go head to head with thor in this episode
"Attacking is for blockers"
I lost it
The way prof went "caw!" when the bird rebel came into play 😂😂😂😂
I love that most of these have been non commander. There is so much commander content already, this is a great way to see the wider breadth of what magic offers. Can't wait for the next episode!
Miss play on the blastoderm, you sacrifice it when you can't remove fade counter, not when you remove the last !
The white version of blastoderm have this kind of mechanic, not the original green one ;)
Yeah I caught that too. With the Blastoderm with zero fading counters still in play, Kyle would’ve won at 22:56. Fading is real weird like that.
Yep, unfortunately they resolved the ability as if it were vanishing not fading; which are identical abilities except for when you sacrifice the permanent.
@@haven2117 yes. Calciderm (white blastoderm) have vanishing 4 ;)
Who could have foreseen that having two mechanics that function identically but use counters slightly differently would lead to rules errors? Sigh
@@davidgill9463 Well, to be fair, Fading was famous for being played wrong before Vanishing was printed. That basically was the reason why Vanishing came to be as the "fixed" version. Vanishing works how a lot of people especially in the casual realm played Fading anyway.
22:43 blastorderm would have been around one more turn for attacks, as you only have to sac it from fading it you cannot remove a counter
This is so well produced!!! I love it!! binging the rest of these Shuffle Up & Play tonight
So glad you like it!
Prof sets the table and everybody feeds off the vibes.
I love it.
While it's a shame that Brian was ill, it's a fairer game between Voxy and Brian Kyle Kibler-Hill as both were unfamiliar with this format.
I played in this time, it was immense fun to see how differently the decks were played by modern players.
Seconds in, "Kyle Hill as Brian Kibler" has me dead!!
I keep bumping into Kyle all over the internet and I absolutely love it. YT, Twitter, Facebook... just all over!
My friends and I just had the same "Questing Beast Pop Quiz" come up two days ago, the one ability we were struggling to recall correctly was the "damage dealt by attacking creatures can't be prevented" as it had to do with beating through protection effects lol. A relatable struggle for everyone involved
So nice to see Thor and Jean Grey come battle it out. XD
The white streak in hair reminds me more of Rogue.
@@ohnosmoarlulcatz agreed. I have a vague memory of Jean also having a streak somewhere. Might be misremembering though.
@@ohnosmoarlulcatz she's actually cosplayed as rogue on her IG
I love Kyle he's so charismatic and strange
I really appreciate the amazing editing that went into this video. Give your editor a pat on the back. Great work!
This was great . Nice guests as well. Editing made magic watchable . Thank you for the vids
Much appreciated!
another AMAZING and informative video by the prof! Can i get a "hey" from the legend himself?
Truly wonderfully crafted entertainment
great video, love these classic match ups! def read blastoderm one more time tho
Prof. This is by far my favorite series that you've conceived of. I looove the interactions between you and all the guests you've had. Can't wait to see Shivam Bhatt (I hope?) on here. That man is a treasure 😁
That's not how fading works, KIBBS.
Also, I noted two missed opportunities for the rebel deck, even though it didn't need them : in response to Parallax Wave being destroyed, Voxy could have removed counters to exile her board, so they would come back and avoid being destroyed in combat. And in response to the Rishadan Port "BM" from Prof... Kibbs, Voxy could have used the mana she floated on a rebel ability instead of just losing it, especially with the flexible one on Lin Sivvi. Or maybe use the Dust Bowl to destroy the Port, even.
But hey, still a fantastic series to watch =)
Yes. They basically nerfed fading to vanishing. I also noticed the Parallax Wave thing. Though, I think only exiling the legend would have been enough to protect her. Pushing damage is not bad if you only lose 1 creature. On the floated mana though I disagree. Yes, she could have used that. But if there is not a specific creature you want on the board (and rebels are rather weak) you might prefer to keep your lands open so you can play stuff from your hand. Like the two split intants she had.
@@seizan88 With one mana, you could activate Lin Sivvi to get a 1-mana rebel, it's better than just losing the mana. But I checked back and I'm pretty sure she also has Rishadan Port at the point where she could have used Lin Sivvi.
Vraska, Swarm's Eminence makes tokens with "planeswalker deathtouch".
Gods this brings back memories. My first MtG event was a Mercadian Masques pre-release. Loved it
I swear I love seeing the banter with Kyle and the Prof! They're just fun people!
BM has meant bad manners for at least 15 years now. I'd never heard of the other definition
The prof is literally the best magic person in the world, he is too funny 😂✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼😫
I really love this series. I don't play anything but commander, but seeing people play with premade decks of any sort is really fun.
Thoroughly enjoy the prof and Kyle collabs. Keep them coming !
The use of "BM" as gaming slang is much older than Twitch. I recall seeing it thrown around a lot in the early 00's to refer proscribed conduct while dueling in Diablo II (actions that the game engine itself didn't stop players from doing, but which was considered off limits in a duel). I always heard it stood for "bad mojo" though. I'm going to assume that it started out as "bad mojo" and that "bad manners" is a corrupton of the original. Could be the other way around for all I know, but that would be boring.
Oh yeah, It's ancient. No idea where they got the notion it's something new.
I first saw it used in original Starcraft in 98, which slightly predates Diablo II in 2000.
I think Voxy meant to say "just barely scraped by" at 37:30. Probably mixed it up in her brain with unscathed too. As a fellow dumb-dumb I totally understood.
To Prof,
You make some of the best MTG content. I really love the fact that you leave the conversations in. I feel like I am at my LGS.
To Kyle,
Love your science stuff and watching you play MTG. Keep being you and never apologize. It is on my bucket list to play you and Prof in a pod of edh.
Thank you for the laughs on this one and the good game play!
i love these videos lately with content creators. Prof. has good chemistry with just about everyone, but Kyle and Prof. reminds me of watching an old "Buddy Cop" movie.
Voxy really takes them out with style points
BM has meant bad manners wayyy before twitch was ever a twinkle in someone's eye.
At 44:10, everybody forgot that in the year of our Lord 2000, we still got mana burn...
Awesome guests. Great chemistry with you all!
Voxy was such a great guest
Could you do a video on how wizards could rescue standard from this terrible mess its in right now?
I did! Check it out here: ruclips.net/video/p0qttshrfhs/видео.html
Voxys cheekbones during that forces smile at the beginning could cut glass.
This series gets better and better... love it!