Phillip Is Absolutely Baffled by the Men Who Believe the Earth Is Flat | This Morning
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Gary Heather, Darren Nesbit and Martin Kenny are part of ‘The Flat Earthers’ who come from all ‘four corners’ of the globe even claiming that gravity is fake and The Moon Landing of 1969 was a hoax. So are their ideas ‘from another planet’ or have we all been conned by science?
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I was also sceptical for the first 6 months. Just like him.
But when I turned 7 months old I understood.
Epic
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No u didn't understood, u were brainwashed.
😂😂😂
They are just professional flat earthers making money from gullible people ...wonder how much they got paid to be on the program...... they no more believe its flat than Buzz Aldrin does
At the end he says, "We live in the age of technology, there is no excuse any more" ...
The irony is busting my ribs!
Yep, that moment caused a large amount of coffee to get sprayed at my keyboard.
These people are desperately sad.
@@GFW-np5jx I don't follow things because 'the masses believe them' - I follow them if they are demonstrably true.
You have chosen another path: You believe absolutely anything at all, as long as it is blieved only by a small group of people who have no knowledge in a field whatsoever. You have decided that the less people know, the more you trust them. The less someone has studied, the more you trust them.
When I had cancer a few years ago, I didn't ask my mechanic to deal with it. When my car needs work, I do not ask my surgeon to work on it.
The masses are often wrong. But it's not the masses that worked out the shape of the planet. And you guys? You seek the losed-in acceptance of a smaller community of people who believe the same thing you do. No matter how absurd it is.
Personally, I don't care about acceptance from anyone except about 5-10 people who are important parts of my life.
You clearly have a need to be part of some 'secret club' - a cult you can belong in.
I caught that too....luckily I had NOT taken a sip of anything .... and my ribs are recovering nicely.
‘Didn’t do the whole lake because it is massive’ mate what about the whole earth? Hahaha
It's the cup of tea that got me!
"Never argue with fools. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain.
Its a great quote but flat earthers lose every argument. All you need to do is ask them for evidence and they lose their minds 🤣
This bald guy claims that gravity is just an effect not a force, then proceeds to say that things accelerate to the ground...does he not get that any acceleration requires a force? Its really mind boggling
The whole deal with belief systems, is they have to reject aspects of reality to make a claim about how their world works. But there's no underlying structure of framework of knowledge, like you get in real fields of science. They are only addressing some specific criticism.
The result is you often find they diametrically contradict something they have previously claimed, without even realising.
the golden flerp example is sun motion and other perspective claims. I LOEVE it, it's so hilarious.
It's fascinating to watch three men not know what something is but know for certain what it's NOT.
Yeah they are too stupid to understand their own contradiction 🤣
And that is what it is about. Once you have evidence of what you believe in is not (entirely) true, then you can start to research and look further.
Question what you are told to believe.
@@hongry-life And they were questioned what causes things to accelerate towards the earth. And they don't know.
@@snaptrap5558 Do you know about the electrical charge of earth and the charge of the air above the earth? And did 'science' ever calculate with that?
@@hongry-life Ah, what does that charge do?
I can't watch this! I feel so embarrassed that these grown men can be so blindly ignorant.
Says the guy who went and polluted his bloodstream multiple times with mystery juice because the TV said so
@@ThePhilosophicalOne the "philosophical one" arguing from emotion 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey Custy.... I am glad to see (from your avatar) that a Neanderthal is smarter than a 21st Century Flat-Earther. I mean... they don't have any excuse and you're just learning about fire. 😂🤣👍😎
@@macforme Ugg! Me fire, burn!
@@crustydownunder 🤣🔥You have to try marshmallows on a stick over the fire...they are awesome.... be careful, you can burn your mouth... and take the stick out first .... after that there is hotdog on a stick... be creative. 🧯 Love your humor! 👍
They should be allowed to call their guests morons
The thing is, _why_ would people spend hundreds of billions of dollars to lie about the shape of the Earth? What do they gain from it? The amount of time, effort, coordination, cooperation, money, and resources it would take to keep up such a massive charade for so long would be downright impossible, and definitely impractical.
Some flat Earthers claim it's a Satanic conspiracy to discredit the Bible and Christianity with it. Somehow. Others claim it's a fraud by NASA for tax funds. Without being laughed at by other countries. Others claim it's to hide rich land beyond the Antarctic ice wall so governments can exploit it themselves. Without lots of people.
God has created a globe Earth but Satan has been telling the world that God has been lying that he made a flat Earth.
Because the amount they spent it on is miniscule compared to the lost of power n control of : Scientism, Financial Scam, Free Energy, Medipharma Scams, Academia Indoctrination, and God forbid; Military Industrial Complex AND.......Religion.
Why would people lie that they are women, when they are biological men?
perchè siamo dentro una sorta di stagno, intorno a noi un muro di ghiaccio , il muro di Ross. Oltre a questo muro , percorrendo migliaia di chilometri c'è una cupola che chiude la nostra terra, oppure non c'è nessuna cupola e iniziano nuovi continenti.
It's over 2,200 years since a gentleman called Eratosthenes worked out the truth. TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED YEARS !!!
I'm still not following the answer as to WHY scientists and the government would need to keep this round earth conspiracy going.
Me either, but it's nice to see all 195 countries working together to keep up the scam, for whatever reason.
@@jonlivesinasiaeven though they cant agree on much else, at all.
@@jonlivesinasia😂
This is just a theory, and only a theory, but the governments of the world could be motivated to lie about the globe Earth, because a round ball is final - there is no place to go, except around and around. Now imagine if there were other lands beyond Antarctica, rich and fertile, and every man, woman, and child could become self sufficient and live like kings - what would happen to Planet Earth's wage slaves? How could kings and queens be special if everyone was as well off as they were and were their own soverign. Wouldn't the globular establishment of Elites do everything in their power to maintain the status quo and aggresively defend their lie. If wage slaves the world over knew they could just get up, and walk away from the grind, thus finding prosperity, they would do it. What better way to keep slaves on the plantation than to convince them there is nothing else to see and there's nowhere else to go. I'm not saying this is true - I'm just saying it would explain a lot.
Neil Armstrong was a civilian engineer not military
He was a pilot in the Korean War, so he was a plant to make you think he was a civi!!!!
Aeroplanes flying upside down. 😂😂😂😂😂 how do these grown men not understand basic physics.
That was a question a child of 4 might ask.... but I assume these men have finished high school by now and are working.
@@macforme never assume
@@finger3181 you are right.... they could be high school dropouts ! 🙄
@@macforme they definitely never finished highschool
@@drmantistoboggan2870 I wonder what kind of work Flat-Earthers can obtain... and do they share this thinking with people at work. If I was hiring type person I would steer clear of any FEers... in fact, questions like that should be mandatory... to protect the business from nutters ...😂🤣👍
I think videos like these are very important and people should watch them. The general public has an erroneous view of what idiots look and sound like. They mostly look and sound like ordinary people with fully functioning cognitive abilities. They don't normally present themselves as over-the-top fools. Of course most of the things these three gentlemen are saying are absolutely bonkers and devoid of all rationality but not in the most stereotypical way.
I love Phillip's baffled face 😂
Especially after they try to disclaim what his own eyes saw 😂
I love being able to see the stars and moon but not the Eiffel Tower, for some reason.
They are close. and your eye cannot see far.
@@hongry-life The stars are closer than the Eiffel Tower?
My eyes can see reeeeeaaaallllly far with a telescope....
@@snaptrap5558 The Eiffel Tower is minuscule compared to the stars we see. There's also a bunch of crap in the way, like the Earth itself, because it's a ball. Unless you're in Paris of course.
@@TalesOfWar The Eiffel Tower has lights on it. You would see it at night
And how do you know what size the stars are? That's an assumption
@@snaptrap5558 Sure, you can see it at night, if you're within about 50 miles of Paris. And we can figure out how big the stars are with some basic geometry. They're millions and billions of miles away.
Do these flat earthers realize how enormous the earth is compared to humans?
No, they do not. That is the main problem. It seems it takes a larger brain to grasp larger things.
They don't realize al whole lot more 😅
Its 24,000 miles in circumference according to mainstream science. It takes 24hrs to complete its alleged rotation therefore its moving at 1000 mph at the equator.
@@theeye-ns1ch Yeah so what?
@@theeye-ns1ch
And.....?
If this is true a powerful enough telescope should be able to look directly from the UK to the US
Indeed I'm egging the point now taking it further, the south 'pole' (or er.. ice wall?) from the north pole should also be viewable. Anything from anywhere (barring physical obstructions) should be visible via telescope on their dream scape. It's batshit bonkers bless em!😂
how on earth can grown adults be like this!!!
Heres the thing. They dont believe the Earth is flat. They believe they're smarter or more perceptive then the 99.9% they referred to. It's narcissism, not stupidity. The topic is irrelevant.
The eagerness to ' know' better than 99.9% of the population overrides common sense in the conspiracy brigade
"I've been to Lake Balatine with FE Corps"
As if people would know or care what FE Corps is 😆
Sad that this is how the Dinosaurs actually died. When the meteor hit, the world tipped and they all fell off into space. Luckily some of the fossils stayed behind but an upsetting story non the less
When you realize there is no 1 real image of our Solar System, no video, no image, NADA, then you start questioning EVERYTHING.
The day someone finds 1 real image of our Solar System I will give them my house 💯. Even just 1 video
When you realize there is no 1 real image of flat earth, no video, no image, NADA, then you'll start to question flatatds ability to use their brains.
Tvoyager 1 "family portrait" is a series of photos that shows 6 plants in the solar system. Of course, you're just gonna shout "fake" without offering any evidence.
Blurry images don't make me a believer. I will stay a skeptical. You guys are like those people that claim to have taken pictures of aliens and UFOs but the images are never clear, nor are ever HD(even though everyone has a HD camera nowadays), NEVER, even though we live in the 2020's!
says the guy who believes in a flat earth when you can freaking see different stars from the south hemisphere and from the North hemisphere. Also, how does google earth work then?
Leandro, science can show that the solar system exists. There is no point in us trying to convince you, Leandro, that the Solar System has 8 spherical planets with a sun in the middle. You won't believe us so you can do whatever you like.
Hilarious! I love the moment when he tells them he flew 60k feet high, seeing the curvature with his own eyes, and gets a response: "What shape was the window?" :D
I bet if he told them he was that high in a balloon with no window, they would ask him "What shape are your eyeballs?!"
Neil deGrasse Tyson has said that at 120,000 feet the horizon is completely flat, that is his words not mine you can search it up and verify it for yourself.
@@josephgeordielogan4399 Ok even if it's curved above 120k feet, that's not important. The joke is in the flat earth round window argument. If there was no window, I believe they would say "What shape is your eye?" :D
@@josephgeordielogan4399he’s wrong.
@@josephgeordielogan4399he’s wrong.
12km laser test….so just over 7 miles.
Wonder how much they spent on Amazon for the Laser 🤣.
It was on special for $5.99 with free shipping.... must be the best. ( Yeah, I know they are in the UK)
But we have Nutters in the US too, that would use that statistic just as proudly.
I can guarantee you, at least 50% of flat earthers doesn't believe in flat earth 🤣
I see the appeal. They are welcoming and friendly. It's a cult
@@talandelana6873 It's a cult? You don't have the first clue about what NASA's founders were into
This what happens when your brain goes flat.
Why name calling? What are your arguments/evidence of what you believe is 100% truth?
why are yall getting offended by that? @@alivingsoul9648
Solar eclipses. we can't see the same stars in the south hemisphere and in the north hemisphere. @@hongry-life
😂😂😂😂
@@hongry-life Literally the whole body of physics and astronomy since the time of the ancient Greeks.
Did he actually say “ can we see planes flying upside down “ 😮 wow,
They always say "Walking upside down" which tells you two things, they actually think even a globe has a "Top and a bottom" which is insane, and that they do not get the concept in any way. The universe would have to have walls and pictures hanging on them for us to have any kind of orientation of what may be "Up" lol. There is no "Up" in space. We just say "Down under" or "Up in Alaska" for one simple reason. Everyone decided to hang maps on the wall in the same orientation. That's it. We could flip every map around and it would make zero difference. It would just be more confusing, but there would not be a new "Up". Unbelievable. 🤦♂
Imagine being a grown man and thinking people and planes are upside down at the southern part of the earth. This is mind numbing. The UK accent worsens it too 😅
at 2:00 when she said ... so Isaac Newton got all that worng... his face is abolutely pricelesss !
Both curvature and rotation have been proven to exist by flat earthers, yet they don’t believe their own evidence. I like how when asked if all those people are liars they go quiet for a long pause and skip over it.
Why u lying bro? There’s no curvature and no rotation, keep on moving bruh…
@@joaopintovb stop being pathetic. We can measure rotation and curvature.
Thanks Bob.
@@joaopintovb We are moving, at a 15 degree per hour drift!
@@timehunter9467 that’s what you believe? 😅 first of all it’s not a drift, second it’s not real. But you do you buddy.
It’s an extraordinarily bold thing to accuse people from scientists to ancient Greeks to expert mathematicians to even people in their own back yard with a telescope, of being liars. Don’t beat around the bush and say they’re mistaken or incorrect. No, what you’re saying is in fact that they are lying about their profession or their expertise. I’m not an astrophysicist or a scientist; it is not my field, but do I believe what I’ve learnt, what I’ve been taught? Yes, because I’m not an ignorant pillock with a wedge-sized chip on my shoulder. Do these people question everything in life? Do they go to the dentist and question his methods? Do they have driving licences? When they were being taught, did they tell the instructor they were wrong? Of course not, it’s just that they see the excuse of denying the earth as a sphere of being an easy way to not conform with authority. I’ll leave you mad-flatters with this: if you don’t believe the sun rises or sets (your words not mine) then what words do you use instead of sunrise and sunset in every day life? Because you’re not allowed to say “look at that lovely sunset” or in that sentence you would be admitting that it sets, therefore going against your own belief system.
You accuse thousands of years of ancient geniuses.. who built temples all around the world with precision. and the horizon... well... accusing the sun of setting is like accusing traintracks of converging.... it's perspective my friend. Be smarter.
Yes you're an IP
@@southstandlufcss5 a what?
@@premabaul7570
You have no idea what perspective is and how it works. Obviously. Very very obviously.
You know what is actually even dumber than thinking the earth is flat? Putting them on t.v.
I get where you're coming from, but (a) not doing so would lead them to crying 'censorship', (b) it's somewhat entertaining (or it goes from entertaining to a bit depressing when you realize they're not alone).
I saw the gent on the right in another video as a Moon landing denier. Do you happen to know his background (or any of the others here)? I may try to research that later but it's a low priority.
These guys have a real issue grasping very basic physics. They can comprehend scale.
What I haven't heard from any of these space cadets is what is the global reason for so many people to lie to all mankind for so many years.
Carl Sagan warned us anti-intellectualism would come back if we weren't careful!
Every other celestial body in the known universe (except for asteroids) is a sphere…but not the EARTH. Right 🙄
Those three birds sitting next to each other on the couch certainly look like Flat Earthers.
"WaTer dOeSn't cUrVe"
1) Yes it does. Cohesive force bends water all the time. There is no reason to think that gravity can't do it. Ever seen a water fall? That's gravity literally bending water. Ever seen a wet ball? That's water literally bending around a ball. Rotate the ball one time in 24 hours and boom, you got yourself water sticking to a rotating ball.
2) Still think that water doesn't bend, huh? Ok. Then good luck explaining tides on your "model" without bending the ocean. How is it possible for water to go from higher elevation to lower elevation and vice versa simultaneously in different places without bending?
Just ask them to pour water.
Oh nice. Comments are turned on on this video finally.
The bro thinks people walk upside down on the southern hemisphere 😂😂
Hahahhahaha Holly said Phil isn't a liar 😂😂😂😂😂
Sometimes I search "Flat Earther" watch every contents, whether or not I had watched years ago, again to be entertained. I no standup comedy has given me this much amusement and joy.
This is so sad. I really hope these guys never snap out of it. It would be too embarrassing.
Counter points for flat earthers that require low effort
> if the world is flat how do you explain mountains (magnetic core and mantle on a round earth)
> if water "finds its level" how do you explain the meniscus of water
Sort of a
Dumb and Dumber and Dumbest?
This so funny! How on earth do fully formed adults believe the earth is flat? Is the moon a flat disc in the sky? Brilliant!
Paying attention.
Do you often look at your ceiling to describe your flooring?
Is my dad a blonde Chinese young man?
Makes so much sense ur sentence. “How do fully formed adults believe the Earth is flat? Is the ocean yellow with black stripe and pink circles?” Bro Ure a fully formed adult except on the brain lmao 😂🤣
@@joaopintovb yeah, your ignorance is astounding. Zero research and that’s the only reason you argue. You believe in sci-fi outer space and magic force fields that Defy real scientific laws. Grow up kid. Stop worshipping what was above your cradle.
Sailed to the East through Suez canal got across the Pacific went through Panama. Canal sailed back to U.K. . Never went off the edge to,fall into ? I wonder if there is a Sun shining on the underside of the flat Earth. !
Is he lying? He's not a liar though. You are not saying that now Holly. LOL
He wasn’t lying remember, he was just mistaken 🤷🏻♂️
I have never heard of a physicist or an astronomer who is a flat earther. I would dare bet these gentlemen are neither physicists nor astronomers. If they are, then I would consider becoming a flat earther :)
The Earth is flat. Deal with it.
prove it
@@bigmonkeyshahaI'm now thoroughly satisfied that it's flat.
When I was 4 years old I thought the sky looked like a dome shape.
I started looking into it in 2015/6 *very* extensively, and experiment after experiment after experiment, has reinforced the idea that it's flat, and NOT spherical.
The sphere was never actually proved, just asserted, and likewise continues to be so to this day.
The International Flat Earth Research Society, Eric Dubay, Darren Nesbitt, Dave Murphy, Rob Skiba - experiments of my own such as the moon acting as a cooling mechanism for the Earth (complementing the sun's warming mechanism for the Earth), density, buoyancy, etc.
There's next to no excuse these days, to say that you can't establish this for yourself.
A gun being pressed to your head or inability to access the vast array of information being two plausible excuses.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 okay, then prove it!
Ships should all be seeable, instead disapearing over the horizon. "Big ocean doesnt want you to know.... "...
So...believe only what you can see for yourself. Unless you see the curvature of the earth. Then your vision is suddenly unreliable
It is extremely sad to see grown people so convinced that their bad information is true.
But as Twain said... "NEVER argue with an idiot... they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
I always wonder how I would react if I got to talk to such a delusional person.
You meant thinking people (?)
@@phdbulet1366 Thinking people can explain theeir beliefs and knowledge, which is something you will never see with a flat earther. They ALWAYS tell you to go research, post 4 hour videos of claims backed by claims, switch burden or change topics.
All of those tactics are used to deflect by believers who cant understand how evidence works.
@@phdbulet1366Nah, thinking requires a working brain 😂
I spoke with one and listened with interest. I didn't argue.
@@Dr-Curious Sounds like you just deny evidence but okay post that online
Field McConnell, who was a fighter pilot at the time, flew his fighter jet well above the commercial airline altitude and claims without a doubt that the earth is curved. So, I will take the word of those that have been high enough to have seen the earth in its entirety.
They think people in Australia walk upside down! ... do they not realise there is no upside down in space? ... the level of ignorance is just incomprehensible!
Its depressing to think that even 6% of the population are so scientifically illiterate to think the Earth is flat. When I asked a flat Earther to explain why the Sun rises at different times in different parts of the World if the Earth is Flat he said 'the clock theory' quickly changed the subject and soon after quickly walked away.
Flat Earther explanations of BOTH solar and lunar eclipses are hilarious.
Horizon from horizontal. How ever high you go there is no globe.
@@jasondavis8886 Yeah and level come from flat 🤣🤣🤣
@@jasondavis8886 Yeah. Except all the other planets, moons, and the sun.
@@bobelot6302 that's imagination and belief. You have no. Idea what you're seeing in the sky.
Start with that which you can see like the natural inclination of standing water to maintain level.
@@jasondavis8886 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
First question: What qualifications do you hold that entitles you to claim that you can disprove that entire scientific communittee?
Who defines these "qualifications?" The government? 😂
Might as well ask, "Did the government give you consent to disagree with the government?" 😂
@@ThePhilosophicalOne Oh wow! You're a flat earther! My point is that there are these things called schools, colleges, and universities where people attend in order to become qualified experts in their field. You're even allowed to attend if you think the earth is flat! How can the people on the interview possibly justify telling scientists from around the globe that they are incorrect, when the interviewees are basing all their knowledge on internet conspiracy theories? Much like religious people, I'm sure most conspiracy theorists don't genuinely believe what they're saying. They're just looking for attention and to be part of a community.
@@jonlivesinasiaAnd if you go against the status quo theories, you don’t get these qualifications.
How bored do you have to be to believe that the earth is flat 🌍
I am going on TV to demonstrate how little I understand science!
Phil is silly
Don’t do it bro we don’t want ur opinion on how the world is a big globe in the vacuum rotating at 1670km/h 😭
@@joaopintovb You dont even understand that rotation is measured in rpm :)
@@drmantistoboggan2870 what would make you think that I don’t know? U’re that much bothered about my intelligence? You might want to act like the smart guy here but u’re not.
@@drmantistoboggan2870 but I don’t feel like giving u physics lessons.
In the comments I see much humiliating of people who have an own view on things as usual, but who did actually investigate the given 'proofs' of the earth supposedly being a ball hurling through the vacuum of space in multiple directions with multiple speeds at the same time?
Isn't anybody worried about the massive full force humiliating of people who HAVE investigated things and came to the conclusion that what we're supposed to believe is merely suggestion tactics or at best partial truths?
Why is attacking a person who has a deviating point of view accepted as being part of a normal discussion and why is that reason to not listen to and ignore the arguments?
Are the deviating ideas ever really discussed or is the person who says things attacked massively as a tactic?
Isn't anybody worried that a decent discussion about this subject is not possible without being humiliated and ridiculed as a person and being called names if you have other ideas than the mainstream propagated one?
Are the deviating ideas dismissed by the action of attacking the person and not discussing the arguments?
How is that for free speech, open respectful discussions and real science?
What is the biggest scientific achievement that was made by flat-earth?
@@snaptrap5558 Idk who or what flat earth is?
@@hongry-life Exactly. Nobodies
What multiple directions is earth travelling through?
The reason flat earthers get laughed at is they say silly things that arent true and then refuse to accept reality.
They lack understanding of the subject they are "debunking" and dont realize how wrong they are.
A lot of them are very arrogant and get angry easily too. Its quite hard to be polite to an arrogant, ignorant person
@@snaptrap5558 Again a box that your 'we' or someone created for you. Step out of it and go explore the world.
Probably the same on the views on genders and pronouns.
The difference is these guys respectfully disagree 🤔
What..? Go to bed grandpa
Is it the sun flat too? 🤣🤣🤣
It's a holographic disc
I mean you can literally see the International space station from earth and it’ll match with the real time tracker🤣
Ever seen bubbles in space or greenscreen problems with austronats in the ISS?? 😂😂
@@Grote-smurf : How about FE claims of superhuman eyesight in New Zealand?
@@Grote-smurfLiterally doesn't matter, just look up and see it in the sky
@@Grote-smurf "Ever seen bubbles in space or greenscreen problems with austronats in the ISS??"
Youre laughing, and yet the answer is no. And neither have you. Youll try to post a 5 hr video and nothing will back up what you claim.
@@Cosmic-Spanner still at it huh? lying about the simplest things that can be disproven in 2 seconds lol pathetic
I'm just here for vibes. Flat earthers make me feel good about myself and my intelligence😂
So for the last 2000 years sailors all around the world have seen the edge of the world at least once in their lifetime of voyages and have all decided together to lie. Thousands of pilots in the last 100 years have come across that very edge and all of them have agreed to lie together. Must have been a heck of a meeting where it was decided that thousands of these sailors and pilots are going to work in unison and lie. 😂😂😂
Why is he baffled? Is he uneducated? Or a complete shut in with no intellectual exploration? Everyone knows there are millions if not billions of flat earthers throughout the plane.
The assumption is proposed that flat earthers are weird or odd when in reality they have the truth. Its really really easy to choose the route you learned before even if its not the fastest. You may assume its the fastest route because everyone else uses it and claims it is. However you will never discover the faster (true) route if you keep following the old one.
Zoom out and show us pictures of boats floating upsidedown? They really cant grasp that there is no down on a giant ball in space
Actually, viewed from space, the boats *would* appear upside down. But "down" would depend on the viewer's orientation.
@@davidbroadfoot1864 not really.....even if you could get far enough away and had a powerful enough telescope it would just look like a standard birds eye view. What sort of perspective are you imagining? by the time youve zoomed in close enough the sea would also fill the lens, negating any relative concepts of 'up' and 'down'. its a big ball and boats planes and people are completely minuscule in comparison
@@JBT-bw8sh It would not be a birds-eye view. Birds are oriented to the nearby surface of the earth, so they have their local horizon. When out in space, your orientation is whichever way the spaceship is facing, looking at the Earth as a ball. Zooming in towards your "top" of that ball, you would see ships floating right way up. Zooming in towards your "bottom" of that ball, you would see ships floating upside down.
Saying, "by the time you've zoomed in close enough the sea would also fill the lens" is utter nonsense. If you did that, it means that you did not target the edge of the ball.
@@davidbroadfoot1864 by 'birds eye view' i mean that in the common use of the phrase. top down, like a satellite image. not literally a bird looking out to its horizon....anyway so wait, what your saying is that you need to be at a specific point in space to target a ship that from your perspective is sailing Exactly on the edge of the globe?? ill ask again..what sort of perspective are you imagining? what does this image look like to you? your forgetting that horizon is a relative concept.
ill tell you one thing. telescopes, satellites and human eyes dont work like that, you could not see what it is your imagining you could see. If the earth was the size of a tennis ball, a sailing ship would be microscopic, smaller than a grain of pollen. there is no edge on a sphere
@@JBT-bw8sh From a satellite, one can move the telescope up and down slightly to view the opposite side of the planet. For a bird to view the opposite horizon, it would have to tilt its head down so far that its head would be upside down, and the ships would appear to be upside down too (from that frame of reference).
No, of course it doesn't have to be exactly on the edge. That was just an example position to make it easier to understand.
Re "If the earth was the size of a tennis ball, a sailing ship would be microscopic" ... of course, so you'd have to zoom in until you could clearly see the ship, and just a small portion of the planet.
Re "there is no edge on a sphere"... the two-dimensional projection of a sphere onto your eyeball does have an edge. That is what is relevant.
5:02 oh you absolute MUPPET. It’s all relative. Australia is upside down from my perspective here in England.
And I’m sure we CAN show planes flying upside down if we wanted to?! Absolutely mental. You couldn’t get worse from Karl Pilkington.
oh boy they want to debunk Isaac Newton & Einstein on gravity?
4:49 "Can we just end this debate by saying....I win"
SOMEBODY PLEASE TAKE THEM TO SPACE!!!!! LET EM SEE THEMSELVES OMO
What's happening with objects falling to the ground is buyoncy and density. When an object is less dense than the medium around it whether it be air or water. That object rises or falls. That's why an air bubble in water rises and a rock sinks. The law of buyoncy and density was well known before gravitational theory existed.
Buoyancy? That sounds interesting. What's its formula?
Buoyancy is an effect of gravity.
@@TalesOfWar gravity has never been proven...EVER and there's two gravitational theories. One is from Newton a Free mason and the other from Einstein. Both still nothing more than theories
@@traviscarr4698 1) Theory in science science is the explanation of a natural phenomenon that is backed up by multiple lines of the best evidence that we have. It's not a guess. That's what a hypothesis is. General relativity is the most successful scientific theory in the history of science. Your illiteracy is not a valid reason to deny it.
2) Objects falling is the proof of gravity. The fact that objects with different masses fall at the same time in the vacuum chamber shows that gravity is proportional to mass.
3) Buoyancy is the result of a fluid with higher density being pulled down harder than an object with lower density.
Go back to school.
gravity can be measured not gonna argue im right period density doesnt make things fall any faster either only drag objects also weigh less at the poles also mountain tops or elevation etc
So why is every other planet a circle but not earth
That lazer test proved them wrong
this is how people also believe in religion
What's the overlap of religious ideology and these wacky beliefs, do you reckon?
Religion is not related to this.
@@user-bk9fk2tq2zit is, because they both rely on faith and apologetics, which is essentially trying to use argument and occasionally misinterpreted or falsely attributed parts of science to explain the faith belief.
@@coolkid9967 Lots of mainstream religions are outdated and flawed. But the existence of God has not been disproven. God could still exist. Evolution is a fact, and abiogenesis might be a fact too, but that doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. And if God exists, then yes, it is not the God of any man-made religion. Regardless, a being who created the universes (yes, I think there might be more than one universe) could exist.
@@user-bk9fk2tq2z The key point you've made is that there "might" be. I don't need or intend to disprove the notion of a god because its quite literally unfalsifiable.
It is not a scientific belief, it is based on philosophy entirely. I could say that any number of things were the universal first mover but this doesn't change much of anything in regards to what it is.
AE: Flying Spaghetti Monster, Tea kettle orbiting saturn, etc.
What you're describing is a deistic belief as opposed to a theistic one, and I tend to like this style of belief myself. Nonetheless I recognize it is purely a belief and lies in the realm of philosophy, it is nowhere close to science outside of the loose conjecture regarding OOL and the beginning of the universe.
Thus far physics have demonstrated no issue which created a "need" for god. Our understanding of black holes and the forces of gravity, spacetime, etc are sufficient to explain the universe quite well.
Nonetheless we don't know everything, but I wouldn't leap towards some godly figure. Even in the realm of philosophy we can use occams razor to figure this. Is it more likely that some extradimensional being handcrafted the universe, with all its nonsense and suffering, or is it more likely that the universe is a pure result of natural processes which have no feelings in regard to what humans value? I tend to think the latter is more likely, and could perhaps become near irrefutable upon discovery of an extraterrestrial civilization.
funny how all the ancient civilisation's knew the earth was flat, where did it go wrong.
They didn’t, that’s just another lie you fell for instead of checking it out
Thanks
The whole airplanes flying upside down thing is wild beyond belief. Some part of thier brain just never developed.
Gravity is and always a theory
prove it
Gravity is both a theory and a law.
Learn what those words mean in science before using them.
@@msa7933 Would you agree with me that earth is flat?
Correct. Gravity is well defined, has been rigorously tested, repeatedly verified and never falsified.
They need to have a chat with Elon
It’s all from distrust of governments 😂😂😂😂
Wow I can’t keep listening
A conspiracy too far..even for me..
What's the reason to even lie about it!?!
These people are not very bright.
Says the guy who believes planes fly upside down 😂🤣
@@joaopintovb A lot of planes can fly upside down. your comment isnt the zinger you think it is
@@drmantistoboggan2870 show me one. And I’m talking about passenger planes, commercial flights, as I believe you correctly assumed, so when you’re telling me a lot of planes fly upside down, I’m really intrigued to see one actually doing it.
Explain your thoughts about the matter. I see only your assessment of persons, not you discussing the brought up arguments.
@@hongry-life fair enough.
If you were to hover high enough above london in a hot air balloon or a helicopter, would you be be able to see Australia from that piont with a stronger enough telescope?
We are all programmed to believe what they want us to believe. Gravity is only a theory. People need ro start believing their eyes .
*"only a theory"*
With that, you show us you don't have the first clue of what is a scientific theory. Also, please read up on the Law of Universal Gravitation. Not a hypothesis. Not a theory. A law.
@@coriscotupi a theory is something not proven and gravity is a, as they call it “well-established scientific theory”, still a theory tho. Don’t tell me u believed planes fly upside down? 😂🤣
@@joaopintovb Please read up on the definition of scientific theory. While you're at it, also read about the LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION. As for "flying upside down: only complete idiots and children confuse opposite hemispheres with being "upside down". Are you a child?
And yet all flatters claim there is a force that causes matter to fall to the ground.
@@kitcanyon658 never heard such claim from the so called “flatters”
In so embarrassed for the human race. We will be the ancestors of our future generation and they will think that we thought the world is flat 🤦
The comment about the ridiculousness of things being "upside down" in the Southern Hemisphere is mind boggling. The concept of how gravity works and perspective from reference points beyond their own location seems to be baffling to them.
Key word being "concept" because that's all it is. Gravity is theory.
And it's weird how assuming 96% of the universe is dark matter isn't baffling to you... So believing that is legit?😂
@@ThePhilosophicalOne Yes, gravity has been precisely defined, rigorously tested, repeatedly verified and never falsified.
It's a shame so many flerfs don't understand that.
@@GuardianSoulkeeper It's a shame they don't realize they can actually test it themselves... among numerous other things. But they persist in simply watching grifters youtube videos and feeling good about their cults :(
Oh man, I’m having so much fun watching these three stooges and many others toddler minded adults.
Would Philip and Holly lie to keep their jobs you bet they would how about you Brian
Lol. What lazy logic. But why would a flatter exhibit anything else?
@@kitcanyon658 Brian is paid to fool fools like you that why he’s got a job lol 😂
They dont need to lie about the shape of earth. the only people doing that are the flat earth grifters on yt
@@drmantistoboggan2870 you can believe the lies if you want that’s what lies are for the gullible good luck
No, the flat earthers believe the lies.
Flat Earth science is based upon the principle concept that the Earth is the size of a car park.
2:01 oh brother i feel you😵
"Water doesn't curve" Brother have you seen a water bottle?
It is contained in bottles and takes the shape of the bottle how is it contained on a ball spinning in middle of nowhere?
@@nevergone111 a massively dense sphere of rock with powerful gravitational pull towards it's centre? uuuh, that's how "Human". Although, I would assume you were a machine learning bot trying to understand basic and fundamental science.
@@MokuTom show me that as a experiment then that water sticks to a massive rock on earth you have all the elements here bra ! Difference is I use my brain and think you take everything and run ? Have you ever been to space and have you seen earth as a sphere?
@@nevergone111 Have you ever been to space and have you seen Earth as flat ?
I never had a full discussion with a flat earther, so I wonder why do you think it's flat?
@@keithamaya8713 same question to you have you seen it as as sphere and have you seen curvature without fish eye lens and cgi ? The thing is that you can’t anymore tell difference on what is real on a screen and what is fake to much brainwashing, not just you but all of us
while I think it's completely nonsensical and they're obviously very misinformed people, I do at least respect them for not just going with the narrative and mindlessly following the mainstream, I agree with their message that you should always question your own beliefs and what society tells you, I'm sure they've done alot more research into this than the majority of people, even if that research is false and misleading.
Youd be suprised. Almost none of them do any research into anything. They just hear someone say something in a video and blindly repeat it without any research
This is not critical thinking. It is paranoia. They should seek help.
“Keep an open mind, but not so opens that the brain will fall out”
@@drmantistoboggan2870 Absolutely correct. Real research not only requires a framework of knowledge in the topic but also they have to ignore anything that doesn't fit the belief. In a way, partial, biased research is actually the opposite of real research.
If I were a billionaire I would personally hire a few flat earthers and send them with a fully funded crew in search of the wall... then when we don't find it and get back where we came from, go to antartica and show them around for a while until they're convinced. if not I fly them into space. if not, then probably leave them in space.🤣
You've seen some things with your own eyes Phil. I don't doubt that. No globe though.
all navigation is based on a globe. Cope and seethe
@@drmantistoboggan2870 explain plane sailing brainiac
@@jasondavis8886 hahaha
Thats a good one mate, ya got me. I thought you were a serious flerf. Well done
@@drmantistoboggan2870 Nope, everyone uses flat maps.
Globe just means 'lump'. If you mean ball? That is a projection of a flat map. Even NASA said in a report that the findings were based on "a stationary flat surface of earth". Look it up.