Yes, but we all need a foundation of education based on empirical fact and we need to agree on basic observable reality. Children can't think for themselves until they learn foundational and empirical knowledge. That is how many of us have gone on to projects where we are demanded, where I went to school, to think for ourselves by junior high, on through college and then careers where our knowledge is proven every day with useful projects aimed at bettering life for all people and surprisingly nothing was a lie, no secret sessions to teach what was lies, you know, so we don't, build bridges that immediately collapse and things like that. Funny thing is growing number who claim they think for themselves and question everything, except that does not include their own intrinsic beliefs which they do not test nor question ever. They are basically conspiracy enthusiasts who always prefer to believe the most far fetched ideas that don't even actually fit theory and totally out of hand reject empirical based science by which so many of us perform in our careers. It is basically ages old mythology from the days of giant sea monsters and a flat earth. But here is empirical science proving what was already known and really boggling the mind of a flat earth believer. ruclips.net/video/6pf44njV8g0/видео.html I believe your statement needed qualified to state the importance of that foundation we are taught, of empirical provable and observable knowledge. From there any intelligent person thinks for her/himself.
@@jimgodofbiscuits You started strong and reasonable in that statement and then drifted into some wild eyed ranting toward the end that rather justified my generally skeptical nature. I agree wholeheartedly with the fact that we need a shared basis of observable data to work from. I am skeptical of proposals that would assert that humanity can construct a command economy that somehow produces a better climate and excellent outcomes for those same humans, as the available data does not support utopian imaginings.
lol yet, this video is ......on youtube. He is unchecked and claims to know everything about it. yet he wasnt corrected. yea, i had that very same ad plays part too. lol.
It's VERY difficult to win an argument/debate against a genius. It's impossible to win an argument/debate against a moron. Edit: -Bill Murray Evidently me not saying Bill said it means I'm just trying to take credit for it. Clearly that is the only conclusion that can be made as to why I didn't put "-Bill Murray" at the end. Of course, obviously, duh, it's the only logical conclusion. Why question your herculean leap in logic & wisdom we mortals cannot hope to comprehend? Couldn't be that I just heard it once and thought it was applicable here at the time I commented it a fuckin' YEAR AGO. Although, looking at this thread that's been emerging in my inbox, I can see why people are wanting to take the malicious route. God Dayum.
and they think they proved there point to them the earth is flat i think these people lives are so boring they just want to argue about something so they pick this topic i could spot a fake photograph of earth anywhere those nasa photos of earth are beautiful SEARCH ON RUclips EARTH FROM SPACE THAT'S NOT A FAKE PHOTO AND THEY DID NOT HAVE CGI IN THE 70S SO FAKING IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE ...................................... WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SAY NAW!! THATS FAKE !!! YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID my father would deny things he would refuse to deal with why i don't know because when he was angry he would block everyone and everything out and sit in his chair and sulk with his news paper in his lap refusing to talk to anyone my definition of a fool very sad and pathetic
One of the things I like most about Joe is that he isn’t concerned about being the smartest person in the room. He is concerned about being smarter than he was yesterday.
Luke R - *More knowledgeable than we was yesterday (you can’t make yourself smarter), but yes, it’s clear that’s his daily mission, lol. Hat tip to him!
@@davidevenson6614 K2 is the second highest mountain on Earth. K1 is the 22nd highest mountain on Earth. They are both relatively close and located in Pakistan. Everest is the tallest mountain and located in Nepal.
@@broussardtyson - Our senses are far from perfect, which is why optical illusions exist, where you cannot stop seeing the illusion even when you know what your eyes are telling you is wrong. Anyway, in my next two replies, please tell me what your "senses" tell you and explain why....
Yes. It has not been debunked, hence the flat earth belief is growing in numbers. Why are flat earthers subjected to censorship? Why did a RUclips executive tell Congress they would promote 'authoritative content' to combat flat earth content? Why would an innocuous belief such as that require censorship? You are free to believe the earth is shaped like a taco. Your belief does not negatively impact my life. The same censorious playbook used for censoring C-19 skepticism is being used against flat earth. There's a RUclips channel named Godgevlamste Archive. His most recent video is a 5 day time lapse of the sun. Enjoy the view! @@galstibilj9913
Yes, it has not been debunked. This is my second response because the first was removed. Why would an innocuous belief such as flat earth be subjected to censorship? RUclips does that with non-state approved Covid claims, too 🤔@@galstibilj9913
@Donnie When you cant even display the intellect of knowing the difference between 'your' and 'you're' then your philosophical talks just seems like bl;blabbering to most people who understand thing unlike you.
Do People Really Think Earth Might Be Flat? A poll says lots of Millennials evidently do-and it’s not entirely clear why By Craig A. Foster, Glenn Branch on August 21, 2018
@Dreymon Green That's the black swan fallacy my friend. Just because you never met a black swan (a milennial flat earther) does not mean that there are non. 34% would be freakin scarry, I give you that, but your argument is a bit flawed ^^
@@joshuablouin2900 mate you're the one who believes water curves without any evidence that water can curve as water always finds equilibrium resulting in a horizontal plane. Bath tub always levels, swimming pool always levels, lakes and canals always levels, the sea and oceans always level. You can see for over 100 miles of bodies of water and not see any evidence water curves. You much prefer to believe NASA and the scientific priests such as Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bill NYE. Globe earth is a cult and every proof of the globe has been completely debunked by real science that's repeated and can be observed. The only reason people believe the earth is a globe is because that's what they were told by some authoritative figure, there's cgi pictures of a round earth on the TV and Movies daily, and because a some old scientist professor told them. LOOK INTO BRO BECAUSE THE FACT THE SO CALLED EXPERTS REFUSE TO DEBATE AND RIDICULE FLAT EARTHERS SHOWS THE GLOBE EARTH MODEL ARGUMENT IS VERY WEAK. if the earth was a globe why can't you prove it and be willing to debate it publicly??? You afraid of losing.
@@MaleLateBloomer GPS works with satellites and they need to compensate the curvature of the Earth when doing the triangulation. Go debate them if you want challenge.
The vast majority of my knowledge was acquired after my school years. This is why i believe Neil's message is so incredibly invaluable, we need to be teaching kids how to inquire, rather than teaching them to memorize information. Most of what kids learn in school pre-college, is forgotten, and most of what college graduates learn is outdated within a decade. The most important thing we can teach people, is the desire to learn, and the method in which incorporating information is most efficient.
+Agronox DT As I understand it, the *purpose* of schools in our neck of the woods is to give students some basic skills and understandings in the basics, but more importantly to teach kids how to enquire, how to think critically, and understand logic and experiment. In many cases this extends straight into University, because what you learn in University is, in most careers, not immediately useful but gets the students to truly understand the basics of what's going on underneath, and pick up the job-specific particulars when necessary.
Agronox DT schools make you memorize what has already been found so that they can inquire more later. would be a complete loss of time if the basics had to be inquired again and again!
@@drmachinewerke1 You might want to ask General Joseph Warren and Major Andrew McClary. They didn't die, right? [The Battle of Bunker Hill was really fought on Breed's Hill right beside it. The Americans retreated across Bunker Hill into Cambridge when the British won through on the third attempt.]
The highest point on Earth is Mount Everest, also known as Sagarmatha in Nepal and Chomolungma in Tibet. Mount Everest has an elevation of 8,848.86 meters (29,031.7 feet) above sea level and is located in the Himalayas on the border between Nepal and China (Tibet).
@John Smith and that is exactly why there's the second part of the quote which I like even more than the first part. That it is intellectually lazy to deny everything as well.
@Ching Chong unless the sun is close and local, not 93 million miles away. Tyson even admits this for the Eratosthenes experiment of the two sticks 100 miles away. It was clever and showed the truth, but the outcome was misread.
@Ching Chong unless you don't apply current "science" to that sun. If the sun is close and local, it would mean that it is not as hot or bright as it would be, if said sun was at 93 million miles away.
@Ching Chong you're not fully grasping the situation. You're still applying current sun guesses with a sun that is clearly not any of what you're saying it is. If the sun is local and close.....now follow me on this....none of the rest of the "facts" are true, either.
Look into Flat Earth: ruclips.net/video/x0EGB_o9TZM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/0NM5q22j5VI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/nyDey7QSgg4/видео.html The Flat Earth Society is Controlled Opposition: ruclips.net/video/tQ1l99KO6-0/видео.html "behind the curve" is a Mockumentary making fun of flat earth, featuring fake flat earthers giving false flat earth arguments, so that people marginalize, ridicule, and write off flat earth as a "crazy conspiracy theory" while beLIEving in scientific theories and experiments that you can't test, repeat on your own, or prove in anyway: ifers.123.st/t298-behind-the-curve-controlled-opposition-documentary
I like what Joe says about how an idea connects to your identity. I think this is why most people who were raised Christian have such a hard time deconstructing.
K1 is the 22nd highest mountain and it’s in Pakistan, not Nepal. K2 is the 2nd highest mountain after Mount Everest. I wish Jamie would’ve corrected him so he knows what it feels like to be wrong.
Just so u know. He definitely knows what it feels to be wrong lol. I think he would be thrilled to find out he has been wrong about things and would gladly learn new things. The big thing about science is to learn and find new things and it's impossible to not be wrong about things coz we are constantly learning new things. Also he is science guy it's not like he has to know everything about cooking, sports, history or geography or even about science. It also sounded like u have something against Neil by saying "so he knows what it feels like to be wrong".
@@frozencrow8735 Yeah, you’re probably right. I don’t have any problem with NDT but some of his interviews are hard to watch because he’s constantly interrupting everyone around him. He just seems like the type of guy that loves to hear his own voice.
@Timothy J I haven't really watched interviews with him being with other ppl. But I would think it could be bad habit of him or he could just be egoistic. But either way I think he just likes to speak publicly and "correct" some ppl's knowledge about things.
was it just me or was Eric Dubay not even mentioned once in this video, dont get me wrong, ill watch any video with Neil DeGrasse Tyson in it, but i cant help to notice that the title of this video is click bait.
"Skepticism of Information". So very true and profound. Americans have become lazy when it comes to researching claims. It's much easier to take someone's claims and statements on social media as truth. A large segment of this country is too lazy to do homework, and that's why we have so much turmoil.
The most interesting part of this conversation is Neil pointing out that independent thinking and skepticism are no longer being taught in school. Society is, intentionally, being led towards complete docility, dependency, censorship and control.
It's been like that for a good while. The system is setup to enslave and conform your mind into a certain set of belief systems/paterns that enslaves your mind to the control of higher powers. Which allows them to manipulate your thoughts paterns and decisions. A great way to influence your cognitive mind, is through music, movies, and other things which is being projected unto us, they put humans infront of their agenda because you can relate to the humans Hence adapting their agenda. They are using puppets as a medium to influence us. Only God will set your soul free.
They used to tell me in school all the time in elementary to be a critical thinker and I have remembered that so much that that’s why I think is things so critically to this day but I swear they don’t do it anymore.
ha! but no matter how curved or uncurved a lense is, they can't hide a complete sphere shown in it's entirety ergo even those dimwits would be forced to concede it's round
Amazing how Neil can make the "I don't want a tattoo because I would likely regret it" statement into a philosophical statement that sounds more complex than it is.
I've had my first tattoo when I was 15. Now I'm 31 and I wished I've never had tattoo done. Not that they are ugly or anything. It's just that now, I realise that my tastes and needs change as I grow older. So having something permanent on your skin isn't a smart move.
Everest is the highest mountain but not the highest point relative to earth's center, because of its oblate shape. The highest point is somewhere in Ecuador
Everest isn't the highest peak or mountain and Everest is in the HIMALAYAS; poster "We've Been Attacked" is right, the farthest point from Earth's center is at the equator line, Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador due to the elongation produced by centrifugal force rotation of Earth, volcano Mauna Kea in Hawaii is the highest peak in the world.
@@wevebeenattacked1757 "From the earth's center", is not how altitude is measured. Mountains are measured by prominence and from sea level. Everest is the highest in altitude. People do not climb mountains from the center of the earth nor the bottom of the ocean floor. Furthermore, moutains do not begin at the center of the earth.
0:28 No..I'm a slightly younger than middle millennial and my main memories are of playing outside everyday its not raining, not a screen..besides the TV
That had me confused. I assumed he was getting tricky and calling out the mountain farthest from the center of the earth, but that is Chimborazo. K1 and K2 don't enter the conversation. Where did he get that?
@@GarthShoemaker K2 was claimed the highest top in 1987. Later that measurement was proven wrong. And it only differs a couple of 100 meters with Mount Everest. So now and then that claim resurfaces. K1 was a global kickbox tournament format originating from Japan. That's why Joe Rogen was confused.
Do you have questions, or do you have flerf talking points with question marks at the end? Are you actually interested in hearing the answers to your questions or do you just want an excuse to spew out flerf talking points?
3:45 1. K1 is not "the highest point on Earth's surface".The highest peak on Earth's surface is Mount Everest. 2. Letter "K" is for "Karakoram", so K1 cannot "be on Himalaya". 3. The highest peak of Karakoram is "K2",which is also a second highest peak on Earth,after Mount Everest. 4. K1 is the 22nd highest peak on Earth. 5. K1 is not "in Nepal",it's located in Ghanche District, Gilgit Baltistan of Pakistan. 6. The name "K1" stands for the fact that it was the first mapped peak on Karakoram,and not for "the highest peak on Earth".
Neil had a senior moment. Pay attention to what he said. His location for the highest peak is correct. He brain farted on the name, and he indicated that he was not sure. Jim! I am a physicist, not a mountain climber ;-)
ok,I'm sure he knew these facts in his prime..but he also said the elevation of the highest peak is 28000 feet,obviously referring to Mount Everest,yet Everest elevation is 29.029 feet
Eden I dont know why,but I'ma reply and explain myself to obvious ignorant idiot and "looser",which you are,indeed.I didn't "want to be inteligent" I found these FACTS on wikipedia,and I was simply pointing to Neils ignorance on this subject.Oh,yeah,and I've heard recently that the flat Earth society has members and supporters all around the globe.. Read more-show less you moron.
K1 is actually Masherbrum, not Mount Everest and is lower than K2. It's just the first on the list of Karakrorum (that's what K stands for btw) mountain tops made during the great trigonmetrical survey of India.
rogan sold out to the lies and lies equals satan, which is what nasa is, Take the T out of the word Satan and you have?? NASA thats why they say T Minus so many seconds and counting they are actually telling us but most people cant see it! the big red fork on there logo is the tongue of a Snake yes Snake so you have the Tongue of the snake and T minus ie satan in control and satan is the opposite of God ie lies and deception and all that goes with that!
@@heartshope6504 Critical thinking is what leads to solutions. This isn't an advertising campaign, you can't just make a blanket statement. Saying making it "great" means absolutely nothing because it doesn't quantify what it is to be "great" or how to properly go about making it "great". This is a complex web of social, economic and political problems that need real applicable solutions by thorough examination. You can't mindlessly make up policies without logistical foresight in what will be affected nationwide. I thank you for reinforcing my statement though about how mindless Americans both on the left and right have become, I say good day sir.
Actually, I agree. We don't live on a spinning ball. A ball is an object used to play in sports. The earth is not a spinning ball. It's a rotating planet. A spherical shaped planet. That rotates once a day. I wouldn't call that spinning.
@@masonhernandez6225 Yes, and they'll tell you no. But not for the reasons you're thinking. You seem to have this ridiculous idea that the plane would somehow fly off into space if the pilots didn't dip its nose down. No, that's not how planes work at all. The plane uses the atmosphere to fly. As the pilot reaches a certain altitude, they sit in a certain band of air pressure. As that air pressure curves with the earth, so will the plane. It couldn't ever fly off into space because there is no atmosphere there to use for thrust or lift. Maybe try learning how planes work instead of posting a clueless ignorant comment like that.
Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Is Not A Globe!: An Experimental Inquiry Into The True Figure Of The Earth: Proving It A Plane, Without Axial Or Orbital Motion; And The Only Material World In The Universe!
Im a big fan of Eddie way of thinking, believe nothing our modern day clerics ie "expert/scientists" preach, and expect you to listen and don't deny their greatness.
yes don't believe any "experts and scientists" but believe a man who dresses as a woman claiming he figured out the truth buy holding up measuring sticks towards the horizon.
@Divex For a brief time K2 was considered the highest peak. Then they remeasured Everest discovering that it indeed is the highest peak. May deGrasse remembered something about this.
There are K1-6 K obviously standing for Karakoram the mountain range in which they reside, K1 was renamed to Masherbrum, K3 to Broad Peak, K4 to Gasherbrum II, K5 to Gasherbrum I, K6 to Baltistan Peak, some people call K2 mount Godwin Austen but I’ve never actually heard anyone call it that.
@@masterandkerranginparticul4324 i'm a physical geographer and i can assure you it is an oblate spheriod! Just cause he forgot about Everest or got confused as to where K1 was doesnt mean he isnt a genius.
The summit is over 6,800 feet [2,072 meters] farther from Earth's center than Mount Everest's summit. Mauna Kea is the tallest mountain from base to peak at more than 33,500 feet [10,210 meters]. its underwater base is far below sea level, so it doesn't reach the elevation that Mount Everest does, according to the National Ocean Service. Everest is the tallest peak on land.
I did some calculations about the earth being small and we wouldn't notice or feel anything on its surface with our palm. A standard tabletop globe is 12 inches in diameter. Earth's diameter is 7917. 5 miles. The lowest and highest points on earth is 11 miles distance. So if the earth were a 12 inches diameter tabletop globe in size, the distance of its highest and lowest points on the surface we will have is 0.016 millimeter.
@chris easly yes he tells you to ask questions. he doesnt mean question his math on something he's certain of and anyone with common sense will agree with him. what i'm trying to say is, you're comment is pointless because he literally did the math and explained it IN the video. all of what you said in your comment, he said in the video, so you didnt need to comment that, cause we already know that, you're just repeating what he said.
Precisely. It was easy for the Fallen Angels to convince the world they live on a sphere in space. It's a lot harder to convince everyone that they have been fooled and indoctrinated in lies their entire life. Everyone lives in the matrix.
@@blackmetal4546 yeah... I mean.... obviously you are right... angels fooled everyone into thinking they live on a globe.... I mean angels and physics and all.... now it's sooo hard to convince them that they are really living on a flat plane with a big platter holing everything in..... my goodness you explain it sooooo well.
@@blackmetal4546 Are you saying that a government that can't even hide a jizz stained blue dress...is one of the same Governments that is capable of hiding the shape of the earth? A wee bit hypocritical to call others "indoctrinated", when your entire belief system is based solely on the words of man...claiming that they are the words of "God". Would you really know of "God", if you hadn't been taught?
Fermiticus 1260miles of pure flatness can be seen from 60 miles altitude,let me know if you want the video. 25k mile circumference ball hiding under the carpet?
I'm gen Z (born in 1997) and we got our first family computer when I was 10 and I got my first smart phone at age 15-16. I don't know if I was just alot happier because I was younger or because smart phones weren't common before I was about 15-16yo, atleast here in Finland.
Etymology of the word government. In Greek, govern means to control. The word meante in Latin means mind. Control mind/mind control. Society has nothing to do with ruling us. And the representative faces you see on the television, involved in cabinets, offices, campaigns, elections, etc, are celebrities.
@@cholobok Damn, you didn't have to go that hard on him. Not to mention this guy just said the suffix -ment is mind without knowing the intricacies of Latin suffixes and how things change over time. Knowing the differences in your suffixes is fundeMENTal(um) to understanding etymology. Perhaps when you make an investment, you are investing in the mind. When you are getting into an engagement with someone, you are only engaging your mind. Of course only the mind can be developed when you make a development.
Of all the advice I had gotten in my life was, this is one that has stuck with me. "Believe what you want and think what you want, but always keep an open mind." I did not understand this until I was in my late 20s.
The highest point on Earth is still 8848 meter Mt Everest, on the Nepal-China border. K2 is on the Pakistan-China border several hundred miles to the west. The number was assigned to the mountain simply to reflect its position in a row of peaks. (Everest was once known as "Peak XV" on a different survey.) It is a coincidence that K2's name matches its position on the list of world's highest peaks.
Look it at that way, we got people to make exams to determine how fit they are in certain parts of knowledge and how they can contribute to mankind. And on the other hand we have people who claim to believe in a flat earth. So, you instantly know to not waste any resources on them. You don't have to ask anyone if there are an idiot. An FE will just tell you.
*+Htsw* Nah friend, there are many sad moments that exceed those bunch of goons. Most of them political/religious. I won't list them all. I think the phrase you perhaps should have used is, _the re-surface of flat Earth thinking is the most pathetic moment in human history_
@@annakeye. I do agree with Htsw and am really glad to see not 'all' young people are falling for this bullshit. I DO think you have a great point there though.
These incessant Ad breaks are going to kill You Tube...It's way more intrusive than the TV break which occur at lull periods not in the middle of someone's sentence.
"I have good confidence in the 30 & under generation" I'd love to get his level of confidence in the under 30's after all the craziness in the last couple of years with the alphabet people
The summit of Mt. Everest is the highest point on Earth. The "K" in K2 comes from the fact that it was the second mountain surveyed in the Karakoram range in Pakistan
Yes. And K1 is another mountain in the Karakoram. ''Today, K1 is known as Masherbrum, K3 as Gasherbrum IV, K4 as Gasherbrum II and K5 as Gasherbrum I. Only K2, the second highest mountain in the world, has retained [its original] name''.
Mt Chimborazo in Ecuador is the highest, because of the bulge of the Earth at the equator. Everest is highest measured from sea level, Mt Chimborazo is highest measured from the centre of the planet.
Proves he's an idiot, he supposedly an astrophysicist and can't even recall the tallest mountain on Earth. How is he supposed to debate smarter people than him? 😂 FECORE.org
2018: "It's not about whether they've had education, it's about whether the education they had teaches them skepticism of information" 2021: Still true ?
You have to understand this then it will all start to make sense, The earth is Satans domain, Male and Female are Satans Creation it tells us this in the bible! Once you get and understand this, you will understand why the world is a LIE! Satan is the master of all deception, so nothing makes sense in this world WHY??? because it makes sense to Satans Plans but it makes no sense to us the people because Satan is our enemy! So think about it that makes sense right! You have to turn the world upside down to know the truth want an example??? Ok here goes the Virgin many Christians worship the Virgin Right!!! YIP they do but what is the Virgin Really??? Well its a DEAD SHEEP! How do i know that?? well its easy once you understand Satans Lauguage, you look at a pic of the Virgin turn it upside down and you will see the DEAD SHEEP, so the truth hidden in Plain site but you cant see it! Its hidden from you! it tellls us in the bible that it is the glory of Satan to hide and or cover a thing to hide its true meaning or purpose! So worshipping the Virgin is not what you think, Satan sees us the people as Dead Sheep and he is correct on that! because now you are in his territory and because you cant think for yourself he wants your soul and will get it if you dont WAKE UP to these FACTS! ANother example. the vatican the main alter is a dead sheep, starring right at you but you cant see it even if i would show you, you would be able to show me! Got to hand it to the artist its good! but once you see it you cant unsee it! The Main Alter describes Genesis 1 in detail, There you see its satan who created male and female not God, so really we are all children of Satan on this earth but before that we were all children of God until we got caught in satan's trap! see www.kleckfiles.com for facts evidence proof of this. If you get this you have a chance to SAVE Yourself if you dont you are done for! This world is coming to an end! and if you die before you reconcile your relationship to God you are done for! WAKE UP!!! not much time left!
Here is a simple experiment. The next time you dgo to the beach and look out on the horizon, put a ruler up against the horizon line. You will find that the horizon has a slight curve.
He's a absolute idiot in my opinion. Why wouldn't he debate all flat earthers to put the argument to rest...on live tv, slay these goons... Think about it. Shut them up. ... .it's because the yr 2023 tech has outgrown the lies my friend. We can absolutely prove that we, do not, live on a spinning ball.
Thank you for using that expression correctly. I can't stand it when people say," I could care less", it drives me bonkers. They're basically saying the exact opposite of what they're actually trying to say. They're saying they care some, but they could care less, when in fact they mean that they care so little that it would be impossible for them to care any less, it makes no sense.
@@malleusmaleficarum6004 hahahaha yeah dude i feel you. let's me say it again in a better way ... i don't care if the shape of the earth is like a ball or if it's like a square maybe it's a triangle shaped ... what difference does it makes for me ? and even if i care about the shape of the earth, let me tell you what I'm going to do if i want to figure out the shape of earth .... I'm doing nothing ... no one can do anything to figure it out because everything is owned by these secret society (Illuminati) and you can't explore Antarctica because it's surrounded by all this military from all countries.... my level of care now is zero for the shape of the earth ... maybe it's shapeless haha
1:38 Not only that, we tried to shake the glass as hard as we could and the water still stayed in the glass. There is about 70 lb of pressure in the coaster, pushing it onto the glass. So no matter how much you shake it and jerk it, the water will well and truely stay in.
He's talking about a difference so small that it can't be seen with our eyes when viewing the whole Earth. Besides, you appear to be flat Earth believer. Is that correct? :-)
As much as I have great respect for both these guys, it comes as a shock that they don't know that Mt Everest is the highest point, pretty darn basic I would have thought, and the warped logic that K1 7900m must be higher than K2 8611m because 1 comes first. Casts into doubt or clouds the veracity of other things Tyson might say.
Um I think there is another mountain called k1 and I believe I heard a while ago the everest maybe highest in altitude but because of the shape of our planet and some buldge it has its another mountain that is farther from the center of our planet weather that is center of mass or actual center I don't actually know but he probably is referring to that, if anyone knows more would like to learn myself
I wouldn’t get a tattoo on my skin because it’s the largest and one of the most important organs of my body. The idea of putting ink on any of my organs is repulsive.
It is a well-known fact that clouds are continually seen moving in all manner of directions - yes, and frequently, in different directions at the same time - from west to east being as frequent a direction as any other. now, if the Earth were a globe, revolving through space from west to east at the rate of nineteen miles in a second, the clouds appearing to us to move towards the east would have to move quicker than nineteen miles in a second to be thus seen ; whilst those which appear to be moving in the opposite direction would have no necessity to be moving at all, since the motion of the Earth would be more than sufficient to cause the appearance. But it only takes a little common sense to show us that it is the clouds that move just a they appear to do, and that, therefore, the Earth is motionless. We have, then, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
I'm so glad Neil mentioned the whole skepticism thing. The other day I saw a vid on RUclips talking about a guy who had worked in area 51 with supposed alien craft. The video was analyzing the guys body language to see if he was lying. His body language, according tho the creator running the channel, showed that the guy wasn't lying. I went to the comment section as I normally do, and a surprising amount of people were just blindly agreeing that he must be telling the truth and they must be working on alien spacecraft. I thought it wasn't a great idea to just blindly agree rather than remaining skeptical. I then saw a dude responding to each comment saying how dumb they were and that there's no way the dude was telling the truth and that they 100% weren't working on alien spacecraft in area 51. He then went on to te everyone that they would know this if they were smart skeptics. And this is where Neil's comment comes in. I had to respond to the dude asking how he could possibly be judging others for not being smart skeptics when he himself wasn't. He acted like I was an idiot and just called me dumb, even after I explained that it isn't smart to blindly follow a train of thought just as it isn't smart to blindly reject it either. He just couldn't comprehend it. Know this is quite a wall of text and pretty random, so sorry, but thanks to anyone who took the time to read it haha.
He was just a troll. I wouldn’t say it’s good to stay skeptical but it’s good to stay open minded. I think there’s a slight difference between the two. I get what your saying tho
@@danielsummers5438 I'd argue that you need both, and thats what I mean by being a smart skeptic. If you are just skeptical and not open minded, you aren't opening yourself to new ideas. If you are just open minded and not skeptical, then you let things influence how you think without taking into account the credibility of those things. A healthy amount of both let's you both question the world around you while not discrediting the legitimacy of what you are questioning. That's what I think it means to be a smart skeptic.
Ya well the thing about Bob Lazar is back in @1989 he went on record making all sorts of extraordinary claims. Especially back then no one believed him. He went into great detail about the internal mechanics of these "spacecraft" and claimed they even needed a specific element to properly function. The element, he called it element 115 or ununpentium. Back in the late 80's he was laughed at and considered a fraud because 115 or ununpentium dosent exist. But wouldn't you know in 2003 a group of scientists actually synthesized a new element: element 115 Now personally I've never seen a UFO and am sceptical of the whole phenomena but I think it's very possible that there's some truth to his claims
Only problem with element 115 is that yes now it does exist but no, it does not contain any of the properties bob lazar said it would have to make space travel possible using it as a fuel source...
I love it when Tyson has Joe on his podcast.
Lmao🤣🤣🤣
Yeah Mike is the best.
😂
This guy is so overrated. K1 as he calls it isn't even in Nepal as he claims. Just not a brilliant mind, a big ego and a loud mouth.
Lmao
Teach students how to think, not what to think.
@Jesus is Dog : that is because a population educated in critical thinking and practical skepticism is not good for the oligarchs than run shit.
Yes, but we all need a foundation of education based on empirical fact and we need to agree on basic observable reality. Children can't think for themselves until they learn foundational and empirical knowledge. That is how many of us have gone on to projects where we are demanded, where I went to school, to think for ourselves by junior high, on through college and then careers where our knowledge is proven every day with useful projects aimed at bettering life for all people and surprisingly nothing was a lie, no secret sessions to teach what was lies, you know, so we don't, build bridges that immediately collapse and things like that.
Funny thing is growing number who claim they think for themselves and question everything, except that does not include their own intrinsic beliefs which they do not test nor question ever. They are basically conspiracy enthusiasts who always prefer to believe the most far fetched ideas that don't even actually fit theory and totally out of hand reject empirical based science by which so many of us perform in our careers.
It is basically ages old mythology from the days of giant sea monsters and a flat earth. But here is empirical science proving what was already known and really boggling the mind of a flat earth believer. ruclips.net/video/6pf44njV8g0/видео.html
I believe your statement needed qualified to state the importance of that foundation we are taught, of empirical provable and observable knowledge. From there any intelligent person thinks for her/himself.
@@jimgodofbiscuits You started strong and reasonable in that statement and then drifted into some wild eyed ranting toward the end that rather justified my generally skeptical nature. I agree wholeheartedly with the fact that we need a shared basis of observable data to work from. I am skeptical of proposals that would assert that humanity can construct a command economy that somehow produces a better climate and excellent outcomes for those same humans, as the available data does not support utopian imaginings.
school kills your fantasy....:D
Sadly will never be done!
05:37 "The problem with RUclips videos is-" *ad plays* 😂😂😂 I CAN'T! IT'S SPOT ON
lol yet, this video is ......on youtube. He is unchecked and claims to know everything about it. yet he wasnt corrected. yea, i had that very same ad plays part too. lol.
O I'm dying here, 😂😂😂 it's almost on purpose, like the last minute is a perfect example of irony squared 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"The problem with RUclips videos is..." *cuts to an advertisement*
Exactly
It's VERY difficult to win an argument/debate against a genius.
It's impossible to win an argument/debate against a moron.
Edit:
-Bill Murray
Evidently me not saying Bill said it means I'm just trying to take credit for it. Clearly that is the only conclusion that can be made as to why I didn't put "-Bill Murray" at the end.
Of course, obviously, duh, it's the only logical conclusion. Why question your herculean leap in logic & wisdom we mortals cannot hope to comprehend?
Couldn't be that I just heard it once and thought it was applicable here at the time I commented it a fuckin' YEAR AGO.
Although, looking at this thread that's been emerging in my inbox, I can see why people are wanting to take the malicious route. God Dayum.
Best comment ever
and they think they proved there point to them the earth is flat i think these people lives are so boring they just want to argue about something so they pick this topic i could spot a fake photograph of earth anywhere those nasa photos of earth are beautiful SEARCH ON RUclips EARTH FROM SPACE THAT'S NOT A FAKE PHOTO AND THEY DID NOT HAVE CGI IN THE 70S SO FAKING IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE ...................................... WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SAY NAW!! THATS FAKE !!! YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID my father would deny things he would refuse to deal with why i don't know because when he was angry he would block everyone and everything out and sit in his chair and sulk with his news paper in his lap refusing to talk to anyone my definition of a fool very sad and pathetic
*cough cough* eddie bravo *cough*
@@stevenherrold5955 your space bar is broken
Never argue with crazy...
Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference
One of the things I like most about Joe is that he isn’t concerned about being the smartest person in the room. He is concerned about being smarter than he was yesterday.
Luke R - *More knowledgeable than we was yesterday (you can’t make yourself smarter), but yes, it’s clear that’s his daily mission, lol. Hat tip to him!
Ajpod 7 its no such thing as smart and dumb neither
Marlen Rodgers really anyone that thinks the earth is flat is pretty damn dumb
Damn I thought this was a joe mama joke
That's why he's into substances.
I’m no scientist, but I’m pretty sure k2 is higher than k1, and Everest being higher than either one. This dude is so in love with own voice.
@davidevenson6614 k1 is in Pakistan and everest is in Nepal. 2 different peaks in 2 different countries .
@@davidevenson6614 K2 is the second highest mountain on Earth. K1 is the 22nd highest mountain on Earth. They are both relatively close and located in Pakistan. Everest is the tallest mountain and located in Nepal.
Neil is prick
You know when you spend all your life studying physics and science, and then you go years in school then hearing your own voice is valid😮
Tyson makes himself look dumb in almost every appearance at least once.
He said, "So they can be the first ones in space" Gotcha Neil. Nobody's been there. They keep slipping up
So you believe Eric Dubay? :-|
Your ignorance is astonishing.
@@Valdemar135
As is yours
@@yazzamx6380
I believe my own senses.
@@broussardtyson - Our senses are far from perfect, which is why optical illusions exist, where you cannot stop seeing the illusion even when you know what your eyes are telling you is wrong.
Anyway, in my next two replies, please tell me what your "senses" tell you and explain why....
There's nothing as smooth as Joe Rogan's head.
A criminal is. Heeeh heeh
Especially not Joe Rogan's head.
If it were a planet how big do you think the Mountains would be?
@@oblivious2052 I don't know. What I know is it won't be as smooth as his head.
Except for the smoothness of the obviously flat earth, wake up sheeple
Joe's head is a scale representation of Earth's smoothness.
Also has its own atmosphere lol
@@jamjnr7391 if you throw something at him it won't reach bcuz it will burn at half of the way towards him
He can throw chairs in the air and they settle into orbit
@@letsgoBrandon204 Eddie bravo thinks Joe's head is flat
@@JimmyCakeSon That’s because he’s smoking D M T.
I fkn love Joe, “look at this fkn pear that’s shaped like a ball” I’m dying!!! 😂 🤣
I'm 22 and I couldn't hate technology anymore. Life was simpler when we would all rock the Sony Ericssons, Nokias, Alcatels, Blackberrys.
I enjoy the way joe’s headset fits perfectly on the top of his head.
Could it be that it's an adjustable headset? 🤔
Dylan Razz hahahahaha
He Otta know, he bought it.
I seen that and laugh hard
OCD. Notice in almost every video. The padding isn't centered on his head. It's always off to one side.
I would do anything to see Eric dubay and Neil on the podcast at the same time
To bad then that Dubay always runs from debates.
Well, it's never going to happen because Dubay always runs away from every debate.
Dubay would destroy this 🤡
😅 Dubay has a recorded debate offer still open to Neil the grass Tyson and joe rogan so … No dubay runs nowhere
@@boterlettersukkel it’s actually the other way around..
There’s nothing wrong with skepticism. It’s only bad when you still believe in something even if it has been thoroughly debunked.
What metric do you use for "thoroughly"?
@@derp8575do you not think the earth being flat has been thoroughly debunked?
Yes. It has not been debunked, hence the flat earth belief is growing in numbers. Why are flat earthers subjected to censorship? Why did a RUclips executive tell Congress they would promote 'authoritative content' to combat flat earth content? Why would an innocuous belief such as that require censorship? You are free to believe the earth is shaped like a taco. Your belief does not negatively impact my life. The same censorious playbook used for censoring C-19 skepticism is being used against flat earth. There's a RUclips channel named Godgevlamste Archive. His most recent video is a 5 day time lapse of the sun. Enjoy the view! @@galstibilj9913
Yes, it has not been debunked. This is my second response because the first was removed. Why would an innocuous belief such as flat earth be subjected to censorship? RUclips does that with non-state approved Covid claims, too 🤔@@galstibilj9913
Skepticism is needed in a society who’s government continues to tell them lies‼️💯💯
Loved the tattoo quote. I think it gives a explanation to my doubtfullness of me getting tattooed.
After we colonize Mars , will we have a Flat Mars Society
Also, after a few generations, they'll have a creation myth about humans originating on Mars.
I’m just joking
That's because from Mars they will see that the earth is round...
@Donnie First learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're' then we can talk about science and facts.
@Donnie When you cant even display the intellect of knowing the difference between 'your' and 'you're' then your philosophical talks just seems like bl;blabbering to most people who understand thing unlike you.
Only 64% of Millennials believe earth is a ball? I would like to see the source for this.
@Dreymon Green Oh they exist, there are Discord servers full of flat earthers.
Just googled it. 66% believed the earth is round found in forbes
Do People Really Think Earth Might Be Flat?
A poll says lots of Millennials evidently do-and it’s not entirely clear why
By Craig A. Foster, Glenn Branch on August 21, 2018
good
@Dreymon Green That's the black swan fallacy my friend. Just because you never met a black swan (a milennial flat earther) does not mean that there are non. 34% would be freakin scarry, I give you that, but your argument is a bit flawed ^^
I love Tyson and I even love it more that he's from New York. He's brilliant! 👏👏👏
Neil says that science requires a consensus to agree on.
*I just wish Joe does a podcast with Neil and Eddie bravo* 😂😂😂
That would be jokes
Well, Eddie is kind of a dumbass.
@@joshuablouin2900 mate you're the one who believes water curves without any evidence that water can curve as water always finds equilibrium resulting in a horizontal plane. Bath tub always levels, swimming pool always levels, lakes and canals always levels, the sea and oceans always level. You can see for over 100 miles of bodies of water and not see any evidence water curves. You much prefer to believe NASA and the scientific priests such as Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bill NYE. Globe earth is a cult and every proof of the globe has been completely debunked by real science that's repeated and can be observed. The only reason people believe the earth is a globe is because that's what they were told by some authoritative figure, there's cgi pictures of a round earth on the TV and Movies daily, and because a some old scientist professor told them. LOOK INTO BRO BECAUSE THE FACT THE SO CALLED EXPERTS REFUSE TO DEBATE AND RIDICULE FLAT EARTHERS SHOWS THE GLOBE EARTH MODEL ARGUMENT IS VERY WEAK. if the earth was a globe why can't you prove it and be willing to debate it publicly??? You afraid of losing.
Tyson won't do it
@@MaleLateBloomer GPS works with satellites and they need to compensate the curvature of the Earth when doing the triangulation. Go debate them if you want challenge.
The vast majority of my knowledge was acquired after my school years. This is why i believe Neil's message is so incredibly invaluable, we need to be teaching kids how to inquire, rather than teaching them to memorize information. Most of what kids learn in school pre-college, is forgotten, and most of what college graduates learn is outdated within a decade. The most important thing we can teach people, is the desire to learn, and the method in which incorporating information is most efficient.
+Agronox DT As I understand it, the *purpose* of schools in our neck of the woods is to give students some basic skills and understandings in the basics, but more importantly to teach kids how to enquire, how to think critically, and understand logic and experiment. In many cases this extends straight into University, because what you learn in University is, in most careers, not immediately useful but gets the students to truly understand the basics of what's going on underneath, and pick up the job-specific particulars when necessary.
Agronox DT schools make you memorize what has already been found so that they can
inquire more later. would be a complete loss of time if the basics had to be inquired again and again!
Kind of like asking who won the battle of bunker hill. For the battle did not matter as it did not happen
@@drmachinewerke1 You might want to ask General Joseph Warren and Major Andrew McClary. They didn't die, right?
[The Battle of Bunker Hill was really fought on Breed's Hill right beside it. The Americans retreated across Bunker Hill into Cambridge when the British won through on the third attempt.]
Bruh ...im in clg and i haven't learned a thing in whole sem ... Just learn and score... Viscious cycle
“Joe, Chill. Listen to me. You ready? Okay… “
😂 Love it
The highest point on Earth is Mount Everest, also known as Sagarmatha in Nepal and Chomolungma in Tibet. Mount Everest has an elevation of 8,848.86 meters (29,031.7 feet) above sea level and is located in the Himalayas on the border between Nepal and China (Tibet).
"It is just as intellectually lazy to believe everything you see, as it is to deny everything you see."
I'm using this quote
@John Smith and that is exactly why there's the second part of the quote which I like even more than the first part. That it is intellectually lazy to deny everything as well.
@Ching Chong unless the sun is close and local, not 93 million miles away. Tyson even admits this for the Eratosthenes experiment of the two sticks 100 miles away. It was clever and showed the truth, but the outcome was misread.
@Ching Chong unless you don't apply current "science" to that sun. If the sun is close and local, it would mean that it is not as hot or bright as it would be, if said sun was at 93 million miles away.
@Ching Chong you're not fully grasping the situation. You're still applying current sun guesses with a sun that is clearly not any of what you're saying it is. If the sun is local and close.....now follow me on this....none of the rest of the "facts" are true, either.
@Ching Chong .....ok. You're still not getting it, but that's alright. You have a good night.
Joe rogans studio is the highest point on earth
snoop dogg dislikes that
Hahaha
Look into Flat Earth:
ruclips.net/video/x0EGB_o9TZM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/0NM5q22j5VI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/nyDey7QSgg4/видео.html
The Flat Earth Society is Controlled Opposition: ruclips.net/video/tQ1l99KO6-0/видео.html
"behind the curve" is a Mockumentary making fun of flat earth, featuring fake flat earthers giving false flat earth arguments, so that people marginalize, ridicule, and write off flat earth as a "crazy conspiracy theory" while beLIEving in scientific theories and experiments that you can't test, repeat on your own, or prove in anyway: ifers.123.st/t298-behind-the-curve-controlled-opposition-documentary
Ba-dum PISH! 😀
And your mind is the lowest point thinking its the highest. Cheers.
4:50 me when I can't get the whole sneeze out
I like what Joe says about how an idea connects to your identity. I think this is why most people who were raised Christian have such a hard time deconstructing.
Or any other upbringing for that matter.
K1 is the 22nd highest mountain and it’s in Pakistan, not Nepal. K2 is the 2nd highest mountain after Mount Everest. I wish Jamie would’ve corrected him so he knows what it feels like to be wrong.
Just so u know. He definitely knows what it feels to be wrong lol. I think he would be thrilled to find out he has been wrong about things and would gladly learn new things. The big thing about science is to learn and find new things and it's impossible to not be wrong about things coz we are constantly learning new things. Also he is science guy it's not like he has to know everything about cooking, sports, history or geography or even about science. It also sounded like u have something against Neil by saying "so he knows what it feels like to be wrong".
@@frozencrow8735 Yeah, you’re probably right. I don’t have any problem with NDT but some of his interviews are hard to watch because he’s constantly interrupting everyone around him. He just seems like the type of guy that loves to hear his own voice.
@Timothy J I haven't really watched interviews with him being with other ppl. But I would think it could be bad habit of him or he could just be egoistic. But either way I think he just likes to speak publicly and "correct" some ppl's knowledge about things.
Imagine the other crap that he spewed
I agree, Tyson was talking complete nonsense. He is an ignorant man.
was it just me or was Eric Dubay not even mentioned once in this video, dont get me wrong, ill watch any video with Neil DeGrasse Tyson in it, but i cant help to notice that the title of this video is click bait.
I think when he mentioned the Skype interview that would've been with that eric dumbass guy
Quite so.
Neil Degrasse Tyson is a smooth talking fraud
@Manuel Sacha No I'm pretty well educated in science actually.
@@liamconverse8950 apparently not.
"Skepticism of Information". So very true and profound. Americans have become lazy when it comes to researching claims. It's much easier to take someone's claims and statements on social media as truth. A large segment of this country is too lazy to do homework, and that's why we have so much turmoil.
Joe said “the worst thing about RUclips videos is” …. Then a paid advert came on that very instant 😂
The most interesting part of this conversation is Neil pointing out that independent thinking and skepticism are no longer being taught in school. Society is, intentionally, being led towards complete docility, dependency, censorship and control.
The school system wants you to be homogenous
It's been like that for a good while. The system is setup to enslave and conform your mind into a certain set of belief systems/paterns that enslaves your mind to the control of higher powers. Which allows them to manipulate your thoughts paterns and decisions.
A great way to influence your cognitive mind, is through music, movies, and other things which is being projected unto us, they put humans infront of their agenda because you can relate to the humans Hence adapting their agenda. They are using puppets as a medium to influence us.
Only God will set your soul free.
They used to tell me in school all the time in elementary to be a critical thinker and I have remembered that so much that that’s why I think is things so critically to this day but I swear they don’t do it anymore.
Just Heather
Public a school doesn’t want Geniuses, wants sponges.
It's up to the parents to instill this in their children. Not some teacher that has a curriculum and multiple students
If we send the flatties to space they’ll just say that the windows are tv screens or that the windows are curved to trick them.
Then open the windows. :-)
Just make it a one-way trip. Problem solved.
ha! but no matter how curved or uncurved a lense is, they can't hide a complete sphere shown in it's entirety ergo even those dimwits would be forced to concede it's round
There's a reason NASA has never done it. I'd love to go to the height the Red Bull Guy went and see it myself
Akhen Aten cause it’s expensive dude. I’m sure they’d have no problem sending you up there if you funded it yourself
I feel like they underestimated the trolling of the survey haha
K1 is a professional kickboxing promotion established in Japan and K2 is the second-highest mountain on Earth, after Mount Everest. People come one...
5:05 Neil deGrasse Tyson turned into a moth
@Lighter969 LOLOL
😂😂😂😂
This is golden
Dont get it
im only 29 but i am too old already to know what that means. i have heard so kids use it. whats being a moth mean?
I love rubbing my finger over the earth’s Nepal
🤣🤣🤣
Yes.
/LOL!
I like pulling and twisting
Best comment of the day.
Amazing how Neil can make the "I don't want a tattoo because I would likely regret it" statement into a philosophical statement that sounds more complex than it is.
He compared boy/girl restrooms to black white water fountains on bill Maher the other week. He's delusional
I've had my first tattoo when I was 15. Now I'm 31 and I wished I've never had tattoo done. Not that they are ugly or anything. It's just that now, I realise that my tastes and needs change as I grow older. So having something permanent on your skin isn't a smart move.
Actually, it is K2, Karakoram region.
Neil: “Joe, chill!!!”
Bruce Wayne: *nervous sweats*
LOL
Why tho?
@@joeychill4364 joe chill is the name of the killer of Bruce wayne’s parents
@@madara992 what a coincidence
WhY dID YoU SaY ThAt NaMe?!?!?!
K1 is the 22nd highest in the world
K2 is the 2nd highest
Everest is the 1st
Exactly! Everest his the highest! which is nothing compared to Olympus Mons on Mars, but I am surprised they are mentioning K1. haha
Everest is the highest mountain but not the highest point relative to earth's center, because of its oblate shape. The highest point is somewhere in Ecuador
Everest isn't the highest peak or mountain and Everest is in the HIMALAYAS; poster "We've Been Attacked" is right, the farthest point from Earth's center is at the equator line, Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador due to the elongation produced by centrifugal force rotation of Earth, volcano Mauna Kea in Hawaii is the highest peak in the world.
@@wevebeenattacked1757 "From the earth's center", is not how altitude is measured. Mountains are measured by prominence and from sea level. Everest is the highest in altitude. People do not climb mountains from the center of the earth nor the bottom of the ocean floor. Furthermore, moutains do not begin at the center of the earth.
Just goes to show Neil doesn't know his shit like he thinks.
I share the same views on tattoos and the figurative approach on knowledge/self development.
0:28 No..I'm a slightly younger than middle millennial and my main memories are of playing outside everyday its not raining, not a screen..besides the TV
4:50 how i feel when my teacher is explaining algebra
Oh Neil, the mountains, the mountains...
- K1 (Masherbrum) ~ 7821 m
- K2 (Chhogori) ~ 8611 m
- Mount Everest ~ 8848 m2
That had me confused. I assumed he was getting tricky and calling out the mountain farthest from the center of the earth, but that is Chimborazo. K1 and K2 don't enter the conversation. Where did he get that?
He said the highest point
Mauna Kea 10203m and not square.
Not his field 🤣
@@GarthShoemaker K2 was claimed the highest top in 1987. Later that measurement was proven wrong. And it only differs a couple of 100 meters with Mount Everest. So now and then that claim resurfaces. K1 was a global kickbox tournament format originating from Japan. That's why Joe Rogen was confused.
I have questions and I would love to ask them to someone in the spirit of learning.
Do you have questions, or do you have flerf talking points with question marks at the end? Are you actually interested in hearing the answers to your questions or do you just want an excuse to spew out flerf talking points?
if you have genuine questions. ask. if you're parroting flattard conmen, take a hike.
@matuse and @john are both miserable weirdos lol. Terminally online with nothing to live for
3:45 1. K1 is not "the highest point on Earth's surface".The highest peak on Earth's surface is Mount Everest.
2. Letter "K" is for "Karakoram", so K1 cannot "be on Himalaya".
3. The highest peak of Karakoram is "K2",which is also a second highest peak on Earth,after Mount Everest.
4. K1 is the 22nd highest peak on Earth.
5. K1 is not "in Nepal",it's located in Ghanche District, Gilgit Baltistan of Pakistan.
6. The name "K1" stands for the fact that it was the first mapped peak on Karakoram,and not for "the highest peak on Earth".
Neil had a senior moment. Pay attention to what he said. His location for the highest peak is correct. He brain farted on the name, and he indicated that he was not sure. Jim! I am a physicist, not a mountain climber ;-)
ok,I'm sure he knew these facts in his prime..but he also said the elevation of the highest peak is 28000 feet,obviously referring to Mount Everest,yet Everest elevation is 29.029 feet
I love it when someone doesn't even know how to spell "loser" properly.
Eden
I dont know why,but I'ma reply and explain myself to obvious ignorant idiot and "looser",which you are,indeed.I didn't "want to be inteligent" I found these FACTS on wikipedia,and I was simply pointing to Neils ignorance on this subject.Oh,yeah,and I've heard recently that the flat Earth society has members and supporters all around the globe..
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you moron.
Donnie Brasco man your a cool kid. Lmfaoooo
The Earth is neither flat nor round! It is a cube! The Cube Earth Society shall rule the world!
Steve p no
Tell me more..
A brother, I see.
We live in Minecraft
Did you know that it started out as a triangle. Yes my friend.
K1 is actually Masherbrum, not Mount Everest and is lower than K2. It's just the first on the list of Karakrorum (that's what K stands for btw) mountain tops made during the great trigonmetrical survey of India.
I almost didn't click on this because it's five years old but it was pleasantly informative.😊
Joe Rogan is the epitome of my ADHD brain.
Joe: "64% of millennials strongly believe- These metal coasters suck, dude, look at this." 😂😂
rogan sold out to the lies and lies equals satan, which is what nasa is, Take the T out of the word Satan and you have?? NASA thats why they say T Minus so many seconds and counting they are actually telling us but most people cant see it! the big red fork on there logo is the tongue of a Snake yes Snake so you have the Tongue of the snake and T minus ie satan in control and satan is the opposite of God ie lies and deception and all that goes with that!
yep, same. I thought the video skipped at first. Even with my meds my brain still does that shit 😂
No one asked or cares about your adhd brain
You don't have ADHD. Someone certainly told you you did but you don't.
@@thomasmills339 You don't have a dick. Someone certainly told you you did but you don't.
Make America Critically Think Again
@UNHEXED 2 or use a time machine to go back to the 1950s
@UNHEXED 2 semantics, that's what I mean by critically thinking.
It's Maga not Macta
Travel
@@heartshope6504 Critical thinking is what leads to solutions.
This isn't an advertising campaign, you can't just make a blanket statement. Saying making it "great" means absolutely nothing because it doesn't quantify what it is to be "great" or how to properly go about making it "great".
This is a complex web of social, economic and political problems that need real applicable solutions by thorough examination.
You can't mindlessly make up policies without logistical foresight in what will be affected nationwide.
I thank you for reinforcing my statement though about how mindless Americans both on the left and right have become, I say good day sir.
Ohhh woooow I loved his closing statement about becoming enlightened
@ 4.50 - joes brain has finally spazzed out 😅😂
4:51 when the drugs kick in lol
Yo im ded
I clicked that shit like 10 times lmfao
Joe "😖😖😖😖" Rogan
Joe: wow really
Neil: *JOE JOE JOE CHILL LISTEN TO ME*
We do not live on a spinning ball
Actually, I agree. We don't live on a spinning ball. A ball is an object used to play in sports. The earth is not a spinning ball. It's a rotating planet. A spherical shaped planet. That rotates once a day. I wouldn't call that spinning.
Correct, it's a rotating sphere. Earth doesn't spin, and balls come in many shapes.
@@BroncoJosh "balls are objects used in sports" wow
@@BroncoJosh 😂 earthbis flat buddy ask a pilot if they had to adjust for curvature while they are flying
@@masonhernandez6225 Yes, and they'll tell you no. But not for the reasons you're thinking. You seem to have this ridiculous idea that the plane would somehow fly off into space if the pilots didn't dip its nose down. No, that's not how planes work at all. The plane uses the atmosphere to fly. As the pilot reaches a certain altitude, they sit in a certain band of air pressure. As that air pressure curves with the earth, so will the plane. It couldn't ever fly off into space because there is no atmosphere there to use for thrust or lift. Maybe try learning how planes work instead of posting a clueless ignorant comment like that.
at 4:44 the earth would be as smooth as joe rogans head😂
“Joe! Chill!” I died right there LOL
If only Eddie Bravo was here
Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Is Not A Globe!: An Experimental Inquiry Into The True Figure Of The Earth: Proving It A Plane, Without Axial Or Orbital Motion; And The Only Material World In The Universe!
Yep, he would definitely have questions about Mr. Tyson.
If only Senator Amadala were here
Im a big fan of Eddie way of thinking, believe nothing our modern day clerics ie "expert/scientists" preach, and expect you to listen and don't deny their greatness.
yes don't believe any "experts and scientists" but believe a man who dresses as a woman claiming he figured out the truth buy holding up measuring sticks towards the horizon.
Neil : Joe... CHILL !!!
😂😂😂🍿
I don't tattoo anything on myself because I am forever committed to my ignorance of things I am certain of.
Everest is the highest mountain at 29,029, there is no K1 (pretty sure), K2 is the second highest but a more technical difficult climb than Everest.
@Divex For a brief time K2 was considered the highest peak. Then they remeasured Everest discovering that it indeed is the highest peak. May deGrasse remembered something about this.
There are K1-6 K obviously standing for Karakoram the mountain range in which they reside, K1 was renamed to Masherbrum, K3 to Broad Peak, K4 to Gasherbrum II, K5 to Gasherbrum I, K6 to Baltistan Peak, some people call K2 mount Godwin Austen but I’ve never actually heard anyone call it that.
Yeah, why would he chose K1 if everyone knows Mount Everest is the highest mountain ...
That guys doesnt even know what is the highest mountain, I am sure we can trust him with the theory of what the earth looks like. lol
@@masterandkerranginparticul4324 i'm a physical geographer and i can assure you it is an oblate spheriod! Just cause he forgot about Everest or got confused as to where K1 was doesnt mean he isnt a genius.
4:51 when my dog is trying to win the game of Tug-of-War
Lmfao
Came to the comments to make sure I wasn’t the only one who caught that
Lmmmfao
4:50 can someone tell me wtf Joe was doing? Lol
The summit is over 6,800 feet [2,072 meters] farther from Earth's center than Mount Everest's summit. Mauna Kea is the tallest mountain from base to peak at more than 33,500 feet [10,210 meters]. its underwater base is far below sea level, so it doesn't reach the elevation that Mount Everest does, according to the National Ocean Service. Everest is the tallest peak on land.
I did some calculations about the earth being small and we wouldn't notice or feel anything on its surface with our palm. A standard tabletop globe is 12 inches in diameter. Earth's diameter is 7917. 5 miles. The lowest and highest points on earth is 11 miles distance. So if the earth were a 12 inches diameter tabletop globe in size, the distance of its highest and lowest points on the surface we will have is 0.016 millimeter.
Yes, but would the planes feel like little pin pricks when they fly into the feeler and the clouds like slushy ice?
@@JBG-AjaxzeMedia so you believe if anyone says anything to you? I want to learn myself to see if it's true or not.
@chris easly yes he tells you to ask questions. he doesnt mean question his math on something he's certain of and anyone with common sense will agree with him.
what i'm trying to say is, you're comment is pointless because he literally did the math and explained it IN the video. all of what you said in your comment, he said in the video, so you didnt need to comment that, cause we already know that, you're just repeating what he said.
@@JBG-AjaxzeMedia he said all his audience is 96% stupid. Earth is pear shaped...
@chris easly i was on about the OP. just realised you're not them, why the fuck are you even here mate nobody asked you 😂😂
Two take-aways:
Generally speaking, nobody critically thinks any more.
It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Precisely. It was easy for the Fallen Angels to convince the world they live on a sphere in space. It's a lot harder to convince everyone that they have been fooled and indoctrinated in lies their entire life. Everyone lives in the matrix.
@@blackmetal4546 yeah... I mean.... obviously you are right... angels fooled everyone into thinking they live on a globe.... I mean angels and physics and all.... now it's sooo hard to convince them that they are really living on a flat plane with a big platter holing everything in..... my goodness you explain it sooooo well.
Please note that you may criticise to obtain some constructive result but you may as well criticise just to criticise and this one sucks
@@blackmetal4546 Are you saying that a government that can't even hide a jizz stained blue dress...is one of the same Governments that is capable of hiding the shape of the earth?
A wee bit hypocritical to call others "indoctrinated", when your entire belief system is based solely on the words of man...claiming that they are the words of "God".
Would you really know of "God", if you hadn't been taught?
Fermiticus 1260miles of pure flatness can be seen from 60 miles altitude,let me know if you want the video.
25k mile circumference ball hiding under the carpet?
The Marianas Trench is not off the coast of the Philippines. It is off the coast of Guam.
I'm gen Z (born in 1997) and we got our first family computer when I was 10 and I got my first smart phone at age 15-16. I don't know if I was just alot happier because I was younger or because smart phones weren't common before I was about 15-16yo, atleast here in Finland.
I really want to see Eddie Bravo and NGT go at it now. He'd probably just say Tyson works for the government though
He does work for the government, though lol everyone that pays salary tax, land tax, sales tax, stamp duty tax.... works for the government
@@cholobok Society just sounds like a government with more socialism
@@cholobok I was just making a dumb joke. "aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community"? All I heard was communism bruh
Etymology of the word government. In Greek, govern means to control. The word meante in Latin means mind.
Control mind/mind control. Society has nothing to do with ruling us. And the representative faces you see on the television, involved in cabinets, offices, campaigns, elections, etc, are celebrities.
@@cholobok Damn, you didn't have to go that hard on him. Not to mention this guy just said the suffix -ment is mind without knowing the intricacies of Latin suffixes and how things change over time. Knowing the differences in your suffixes is fundeMENTal(um) to understanding etymology. Perhaps when you make an investment, you are investing in the mind. When you are getting into an engagement with someone, you are only engaging your mind. Of course only the mind can be developed when you make a development.
Of all the advice I had gotten in my life was, this is one that has stuck with me. "Believe what you want and think what you want, but always keep an open mind." I did not understand this until I was in my late 20s.
The highest point on Earth is still 8848 meter Mt Everest, on the Nepal-China border. K2 is on the Pakistan-China border several hundred miles to the west. The number was assigned to the mountain simply to reflect its position in a row of peaks. (Everest was once known as "Peak XV" on a different survey.) It is a coincidence that K2's name matches its position on the list of world's highest peaks.
Kanchenjunga ?
I like rogan reference to him telling Tyson all your information is unchecked! Not being verified with logic
There's enough salt in the comments to put on my chips.
Brian Fantana giving me high blood pressure
Did you lick it?
😆
@Jay Quan Prove that he's a fucken idiot!
We just did, and they both have you beat...Just sayin.
I'm under 25 and I find the re-surface of flat earth theory to be the the saddest moment of human history.
yeaahhh me to man
Look it at that way, we got people to make exams to determine how fit they are in certain parts of knowledge and how they can contribute to mankind. And on the other hand we have people who claim to believe in a flat earth. So, you instantly know to not waste any resources on them. You don't have to ask anyone if there are an idiot. An FE will just tell you.
*+Htsw*
Nah friend, there are many sad moments that exceed those bunch of goons. Most of them political/religious. I won't list them all. I think the phrase you perhaps should have used is, _the re-surface of flat Earth thinking is the most pathetic moment in human history_
@@annakeye. I do agree with Htsw and am really glad to see not 'all' young people are falling for this bullshit. I DO think you have a great point there though.
@pio angeles. I think you hit the nail on the head there lol.
These incessant Ad breaks are going to kill You Tube...It's way more intrusive than the TV break which occur at lull periods not in the middle of someone's sentence.
"I have good confidence in the 30 & under generation"
I'd love to get his level of confidence in the under 30's after all the craziness in the last couple of years with the alphabet people
Yes yes, you're a giant bigot, grandpa. We know.
The summit of Mt. Everest is the highest point on Earth. The "K" in K2 comes from the fact that it was the second mountain surveyed in the Karakoram range in Pakistan
Yes. And K1 is another mountain in the Karakoram. ''Today, K1 is known as Masherbrum, K3 as Gasherbrum IV, K4 as Gasherbrum II and K5 as Gasherbrum I. Only K2, the second highest mountain in the world, has retained [its original] name''.
Mt Chimborazo in Ecuador is the highest, because of the bulge of the Earth at the equator. Everest is highest measured from sea level, Mt Chimborazo is highest measured from the centre of the planet.
@@traog Snap, Neil Tyson talks some mad shit sometimes, it's funny to think he goes round talking to himself in that voice.
I'm shocked he didn't know that.
Proves he's an idiot, he supposedly an astrophysicist and can't even recall the tallest mountain on Earth. How is he supposed to debate smarter people than him? 😂
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When I ran my finger over "Nepal", I got my face slapped!
James Gross this joke is way under appreciated
yup
watch out for the sexual harassment lawsuit that's coming when you stick that finger in Meriana's Trench
@@lightningstar-ng9tm wayyyy under appreciated 😂😂
Chup lag pagal ki chori...tero bau ko tauko
"How bout *NEHPAL*
Whoo I like that
Ha, shocker, God get it right
What about Mauna Kea from the ocean floor?
Meaningless, as the Himalayas also come up from the ocean floor.
This is a guy you don't want to argue with.
UFC 250: Neil DeGrasse Tyson vs Eddie Bravo
MadTwatter make it happen dana
Eddie - the earth is flat
Neil -is not flat because.........
Eddie -I AM CRAZY NEIL IM CAAZY . ........BUT THE EARTH IS FLAT
Eddie Bravo by triangle choke of NDT's 🍐 shaped head
Nah, Brock Lesnar will come in a knock both their heads together.
Nahhhhh, Eric dubay, my friend
2018: "It's not about whether they've had education, it's about whether the education they had teaches them skepticism of information"
2021: Still true ?
I Read that as he said
u on it crowman
You have to understand this then it will all start to make sense, The earth is Satans domain, Male and Female are Satans Creation it tells us this in the bible! Once you get and understand this, you will understand why the world is a LIE! Satan is the master of all deception, so nothing makes sense in this world WHY??? because it makes sense to Satans Plans but it makes no sense to us the people because Satan is our enemy! So think about it that makes sense right! You have to turn the world upside down to know the truth want an example??? Ok here goes the Virgin many Christians worship the Virgin Right!!! YIP they do but what is the Virgin Really??? Well its a DEAD SHEEP! How do i know that?? well its easy once you understand Satans Lauguage, you look at a pic of the Virgin turn it upside down and you will see the DEAD SHEEP, so the truth hidden in Plain site but you cant see it! Its hidden from you! it tellls us in the bible that it is the glory of Satan to hide and or cover a thing to hide its true meaning or purpose! So worshipping the Virgin is not what you think, Satan sees us the people as Dead Sheep and he is correct on that! because now you are in his territory and because you cant think for yourself he wants your soul and will get it if you dont WAKE UP to these FACTS! ANother example. the vatican the main alter is a dead sheep, starring right at you but you cant see it even if i would show you, you would be able to show me! Got to hand it to the artist its good! but once you see it you cant unsee it! The Main Alter describes Genesis 1 in detail, There you see its satan who created male and female not God, so really we are all children of Satan on this earth but before that we were all children of God until we got caught in satan's trap! see www.kleckfiles.com for facts evidence proof of this. If you get this you have a chance to SAVE Yourself if you dont you are done for! This world is coming to an end! and if you die before you reconcile your relationship to God you are done for! WAKE UP!!! not much time left!
Here is a simple experiment. The next time you dgo to the beach and look out on the horizon, put a ruler up against the horizon line. You will find that the horizon has a slight curve.
I'm a milineal and didnt have internet until I was grown.
Neil is his own biggest fan.
He's a absolute idiot in my opinion. Why wouldn't he debate all flat earthers to put the argument to rest...on live tv, slay these goons... Think about it. Shut them up. ... .it's because the yr 2023 tech has outgrown the lies my friend. We can absolutely prove that we, do not, live on a spinning ball.
Facts...
Biggest douche in the universe. - South park
Degrasse it mean nogrease or in other words no vaseline.. hes doing entire population without vaseline. He remembers me CEO of WHO.
big ego pretty much
i couldn't care less abiut the shape of the earth ... i need to find a job
jad hzim same
Word
Maybe get off RUclips and do sumtin constructive...
Thank you for using that expression correctly. I can't stand it when people say," I could care less", it drives me bonkers. They're basically saying the exact opposite of what they're actually trying to say. They're saying they care some, but they could care less, when in fact they mean that they care so little that it would be impossible for them to care any less, it makes no sense.
@@malleusmaleficarum6004 hahahaha yeah dude i feel you. let's me say it again in a better way ... i don't care if the shape of the earth is like a ball or if it's like a square maybe it's a triangle shaped ... what difference does it makes for me ? and even if i care about the shape of the earth, let me tell you what I'm going to do if i want to figure out the shape of earth .... I'm doing nothing ... no one can do anything to figure it out because everything is owned by these secret society (Illuminati) and you can't explore Antarctica because it's surrounded by all this military from all countries.... my level of care now is zero for the shape of the earth ... maybe it's shapeless haha
1:38 Not only that, we tried to shake the glass as hard as we could and the water still stayed in the glass. There is about 70 lb of pressure in the coaster, pushing it onto the glass. So no matter how much you shake it and jerk it, the water will well and truely stay in.
what is below equator? who decided that part as "below" ?? how can it get chubbier below? another kind of gravity pull it to the below?
He's talking about a difference so small that it can't be seen with our eyes when viewing the whole Earth.
Besides, you appear to be flat Earth believer. Is that correct? :-)
the difference, measured by satellite, is only a few dozen meters.
As much as I have great respect for both these guys, it comes as a shock that they don't know that Mt Everest is the highest point, pretty darn basic I would have thought, and the warped logic that K1 7900m must be higher than K2 8611m because 1 comes first. Casts into doubt or clouds the veracity of other things Tyson might say.
Hear, hear
Yes, and the cueball analogy isn't even correct either, there was some guy who tested it
Yeah
I like that he says a cue ball is "pear-shaped" lol and people call this man "brilliant"
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Hasn’t heard of Mount Everest? Odd. I’m shocked.
Terry Cotton ??
Um I think there is another mountain called k1 and I believe I heard a while ago the everest maybe highest in altitude but because of the shape of our planet and some buldge it has its another mountain that is farther from the center of our planet weather that is center of mass or actual center I don't actually know but he probably is referring to that, if anyone knows more would like to learn myself
jay bee this.....
oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/highestpoint.html
@@myopenmind527 well there's some food for thought, thank you
@@jaybee7075 that makes sense
Sugar Bear disappears, Neil Tyson appears....hmm!
I wouldn’t get a tattoo on my skin because it’s the largest and one of the most important organs of my body. The idea of putting ink on any of my organs is repulsive.
I have a bunch of tats and wish I had none, 35 now but dang Silly stuff I did in my 20s
Wheres Eric's video?
In a toilet where all the other shit belongs.
The Earth is shaped like Joe's dome.
😂😂 that made me chuckle mate!
the planet of joe dome
This the best comment ever
It is a well-known fact that clouds are continually seen moving in all manner of directions - yes, and frequently, in different directions at the same time - from west to east being as frequent a direction as any other. now, if the Earth were a globe, revolving through space from west to east at the rate of nineteen miles in a second, the clouds appearing to us to move towards the east would have to move quicker than nineteen miles in a second to be thus seen ; whilst those which appear to be moving in the opposite direction would have no necessity to be moving at all, since the motion of the Earth would be more than sufficient to cause the appearance. But it only takes a little common sense to show us that it is the clouds that move just a they appear to do, and that, therefore, the Earth is motionless. We have, then, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
Joe dome earthers
I'm so glad Neil mentioned the whole skepticism thing. The other day I saw a vid on RUclips talking about a guy who had worked in area 51 with supposed alien craft. The video was analyzing the guys body language to see if he was lying. His body language, according tho the creator running the channel, showed that the guy wasn't lying. I went to the comment section as I normally do, and a surprising amount of people were just blindly agreeing that he must be telling the truth and they must be working on alien spacecraft. I thought it wasn't a great idea to just blindly agree rather than remaining skeptical. I then saw a dude responding to each comment saying how dumb they were and that there's no way the dude was telling the truth and that they 100% weren't working on alien spacecraft in area 51. He then went on to te everyone that they would know this if they were smart skeptics. And this is where Neil's comment comes in. I had to respond to the dude asking how he could possibly be judging others for not being smart skeptics when he himself wasn't. He acted like I was an idiot and just called me dumb, even after I explained that it isn't smart to blindly follow a train of thought just as it isn't smart to blindly reject it either. He just couldn't comprehend it. Know this is quite a wall of text and pretty random, so sorry, but thanks to anyone who took the time to read it haha.
He was just a troll. I wouldn’t say it’s good to stay skeptical but it’s good to stay open minded. I think there’s a slight difference between the two. I get what your saying tho
@@danielsummers5438 I'd argue that you need both, and thats what I mean by being a smart skeptic. If you are just skeptical and not open minded, you aren't opening yourself to new ideas. If you are just open minded and not skeptical, then you let things influence how you think without taking into account the credibility of those things. A healthy amount of both let's you both question the world around you while not discrediting the legitimacy of what you are questioning. That's what I think it means to be a smart skeptic.
Ya well the thing about Bob Lazar is back in @1989 he went on record making all sorts of extraordinary claims. Especially back then no one believed him. He went into great detail about the internal mechanics of these "spacecraft" and claimed they even needed a specific element to properly function. The element, he called it element 115 or ununpentium. Back in the late 80's he was laughed at and considered a fraud because 115 or ununpentium dosent exist. But wouldn't you know in 2003 a group of scientists actually synthesized a new element: element 115
Now personally I've never seen a UFO and am sceptical of the whole phenomena but I think it's very possible that there's some truth to his claims
Only problem with element 115 is that yes now it does exist but no, it does not contain any of the properties bob lazar said it would have to make space travel possible using it as a fuel source...
@@btek7301 except we don't know that it could be a possible stable isotope that he had access to if his story is true
Loved hearing Nepal from Neil
Kmon! The highest mountain is called Everest! The 2nd is called K2.