TRACTION BARS!!! Why you need them
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Don and I decided to get out for a little bit today and really try to show you why traction bars are really a good idea to have on your truck. We wanted to be able to show how the axle moves without them and how the axle is way more controlled with them installed. OH and also forgot to mention i wanted to show you how much better a burnout could be with a set of traction bars.
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Best video to show how much traction bars help! Did it get easier to burn rubber?
Yes and no, the truck wants to put the power down better and you can feel it take weight off of the nose but it will still spin the tires no problem and you don't have to worry about any hop.
Thank you very much for making this video!! I was on the fence about getting traction bars...I was leaning towards getting them, then some friends said don't waste your money...but this video, you could def see the difference! I was looking into HSP bars. 09' LMM here in CT 😎
Hell yeah man I'm glad I could help, they made a way bigger difference then i thought they would honestly just driving the truck normally you can tell it just feels solid, not like its making the suspension ridged or harder but there is just no weird bullshit going on in the rear of the truck. Its hard to explain but they are a must for me now.
Thts clean 3500
Thank you
Great vid thanks. Got a firepunk comp 1 trans with a triple disc and the shift to OD is scary harsh. They suggest getting traction bars to eliminate it. Hope it does
It will definitely make an improvement
Thank you for this video, I'm making a set by this spring atleast. People say how they work and what they do, but you explain it, and show it
I'm glad you found it useful, I really like being able to actually show examples because not everything makes sense by word of mouth, sometimes you actually have to see the result!!
very educational thankyou! best brand?
I'm not sure of the best brand to be honest, we built these ourselves but there are so many good brands out there to choose from it's hard to go wrong
Netter Kuser go local there’s always a local fabricator building them
Can you put traction bars on the front too
Not really as far as I know, keeping the front end from hopping is a whole different ball game that I need to figure out at some point.
@@Cargill450 thanks for taking the time and answering me the reason I was asking about the front suspension is because mine shakes terrible its hard to control it at higher speeds its a 2008 1500 megacab with a 3/4 frame I believe I just got it not realy sure I know it has 8 lug wheels
What kind of speeds? It could be a trac bar issue 🤔
@@Cargill450 speeds of 65 and above
I would first look into a loose track bar first, have someone move the steering wheel back and forth and check to see if the body moves left and right on the axle, if it doesn't have the tires rotated to see if it's a tire balance issue then go from there.
Ok this is a vary dumb question but I have a 96 Cummins and I have a decent amount of power adders to the truck but I can never get it to do a burn out without excessive amount of wheel hop and it’s also a dually so will trac bars get rid out that
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you man but absolutely, Traction bars would definitely be able to help you out there
What traction bars fo you have and a build overview?
We built those Traction bars our selves and built them super tough, there are a few videos on my channel of us putting them together.
Where did you get the front bars. I can’t find fronts anywhere.
The front kit is a tuff country long arm conversion.
@@Cargill450 what’s the benefit to running that kit.
The long arm kits ride alot smoother then the stock. In my small circle of friends here we have 5 lifted 3rd gens and they are all converted and all of the guys had the same reaction when the trucks were converted to long arm, its a night and day difference in the ride quality.
@@Cargill450 mines not that tall. Would that still make a difference. Also just trying to find badass aftermarket parts. I’m not big into dodge more Chevy guy but this is my first diesel and looking into making it more me.
How much lift does it have?
Okay. Definitely sold. Is there a different way to achieve said result without traction bars? Maybe something shorter? I do not like the "look" you're talking about. I also spend a lot of time in the woods, so having things that stick out or hang down tend to get ripped off or catch things up, that rip other things off.
Also, is that the same reason for your long arms in the front. I don't care about burnouts, pulling, racing, or horsepower. I do daily drive, and have to pull logs, and or haul.
So the Traction bars are kind of a loaded topic, you could go shorter potentially but just keep in mind you can't go too short because it will start to create bind in itself. The long arms in the front changes things alot when it comes to ride quality too, those are night and day. I understand where your coming from with being in the woods, I spent the last 10 years working on logging crummies and equipment so believe me I understand not wanting alot of low hanging stuff on a truck.
@@Cargill450 Are there any worthwhile alternatives? I would really like to see what those 5500 leaf springs do to prevent that axle moving.
The 5500 springs actually did a decent job of keeping the rear axle in check but they weren't full proof either. For example really the black mega cab you see in some of the videos is a 3500 I believe with factory leafs and air bags, if he puts any kind of trailer behind it the truck squats pretty good, he definitely has to put air in the bags to get it happy again and im talking 20ft trailers. Now mine with the 5500 springs and NO air bags has been loaded pretty heavy with both a 25 and 30ft gooseneck between broken crummies and a sketchy amount of round bells and it maybe squats 2 to 3 inches, I have pictures empty and loaded if you have a way I could send them to you I would be happy to just to show you what I mean.
@@Cargill450 I can email you.
Thx what size are your tires height and width
Back then they were 37x13.5 Toyo RTs on a 20x12 wheel
So dose this help get both tires to spin?
It could possibly but the main reason to add traction bars is to eliminate wheel hop.
Ok do you just need a bit of power to get both wheels to start spinning? Or do most of the heavy trucks come with limited slip diffs
@sammyvanede2447 it’s 50/50 if they came with a limited slip or not, mine had a factory limited slip and I blew it up so I installed an Eaton truetrac limited slip.
What side steps are those on the white truck
They are iron cross offroad steps
Nice video, how tall is the lift on the white truck? I would like to put 37s on my truck also.. Please let me know. Thanks
My truck sits right around 8 inches of lift but depending on what wheels you go with the black truck in the video is sitting at 6 inches with 37s.
@@Cargill450 thanks for the reply and info. Right now my truck is sitting on 35 12.5 20r . I bought the truck like that. Unfortunately I don't know what kind of lift is on it and drives like crap, barely clears 35s so I'm looking for the new lift and might as well get 37s
I think 37s just look right on these trucks, the one thing I would say is it might cost a little more but look into the long arm kits you really won't be disappointed by the ride on them.
@@Cargill450 will do, thanks for the help. By the way I'm in Vancouver wa
Nice not too far away
Cool video! Came here from Cam @ Everthing Diesel
Man thank you so much I really appreciate that, Cam is the man I had no idea he was going to do that.
I have a single cab 2500, I have recently put track bars on but it still hops really bad. Any ideas
How long are they and how are they mounted, were you able to put any preload into the bars?
@@Cargill450 they are 66” long welded on both ends and I have 2 full turns of preload pushing on the axle, tried 1 turn didn’t help so someone told me to do 1 more turn and still hops
66 should be plenty long enough 🤔 single cab I'm sure the truck is really light but still shouldn't hop too bad. What's the tire and wheel setup and pressure?
@@Cargill450 35x12.5 tires at 65 in the front 75 in the rear, but i just put my winters on today and it hops with them too
The rear might just be that still 🤷🏼♂️ either that or maybe the shocks aren't up to the task
Hopefully getting traction bars from my truck helps my situation I also have a lift kit on my vehicle and Driving on the highway I can see my bed literally bouncing hopping on the highway
Honestly I doubt you will lose the bed hop on the highway all the way but for a lifted truck these things are a must, you will be surprised by how big of an improvement they really make.
Cargill450 I’m trying to figure out why it does that on the highway can’t seem to figure it out .. any idea? but definitely I just ordered The traction bars just now
@@re9473 it could be a a few things really from the rear tires being a little out of balance to just the road itself. I notice personally that the longer the truck the worse it is.
Cargill450 Definitely looking forward to it I’m also thinking about getting rid of my two piece driveshaft and putting a one piece. What is your opinion on a One piece driveshaft
@@re9473 my opinion on a one piece. You will love it, can't really go wrong
I plan to get traction bars and kicker braces soon for my 2013 chevy on 7.5" rc lift.. I'm having lots of problems with tearing cv boots, even with the forged upper control arms! I'm wondering, if I were to connect my stearing to the frame like that, with kicker braces, and also traction bars soon after, would that make my cv boots tare faster?
Most of the time the cv boots tare because they are at too steep of an angle and it works the boots too much, atleast that's what I have found in the past.
Built a set of trac bars for my 05 just like yours an still get wheel hop bad any idea why
It could be a few things I would think, how long are they, what kind of ends did you use and did you add any preload to them?
Used Heim joints on both ends 60” long I didn’t put preload on them but I lefted the truck with the air bags an makes it worse
Tried airing the tires up an down as well
@@cody1293 try putting some preload in them, its hard to write out and explain but it I think I will make a video on the subject because its a good point but long story short add some preload and try it again. It sounds like things are pulling against each other rather then pushing like it should
I sure will try that, it’s crazy cause I put the camera up under there an can’t see the axle twist it just jumps up an down like a pogo stick
Great content:) If Diesel Fest is a go, looking forward to your coverage of it!
That's going to be a fun couple videos to make I really hope it's still a go when the time comes
You convinced me they are needed if you want your bushings and drive line and rear end to simply last longer.. it's a no brainer...
I'm glad you found it helpful, its amazing at just how much they change how the truck drives even. Everything feels way more connected you wouldn't be disappointed
Later that day…..Craigslist ad: used tires adult owned, always rotated and lots of life left. No low ballers I know what I have.
Haha absolutely!!