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The 10 Most FRAUDULENT NFL Team Records in the Super Bowl Era
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Every NFL team earns its record, but not every NFL team truly EARNS its record. Some are more fraudulent than others, and we've uncovered the ten most fraudulent records during the Super Bowl era.
• The Ten WORST NFL Team...
• The WORST 3-Year Runs ...
Explanation of C-Score:
C-Score is a metric created by this channel to assign an overall value to a football team. It takes a team's:
-Results, including standard and Pythagorean W-L record
-Performance, including game control and play-by-play production
-Quality of opponents, specifically performance level against opponents
and distills all of that into one cumulative and comparative score reflecting the context of the season in question. When applicable, a team's playoff performance is also included.
A C-Score of 0 represents an average football team, whereas anything above 0 represents an above average team and anything below 0 represents a below average team.
A team's record is important, but not always indicative of C-Score. An 11-5 team can rate higher than a 13-3 team or lower than a 9-7 team. Not all records are created equally.
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Really think you should've limited this to teams that finished with winning records.
Why?
I agree, like look at the dolphins and cowboys last year who had great records, but sucked shit against teams with a winning record
Could be a sequel video, fraudulent winning teams. 22' Vikings would definitely make a return here along with at least 3 Cowboys seasons. Such fraudulence.
2023 Falcons - Lost to 2-15 Panthers, 4-13 Cardinals, 4-13 Commanders, and 6-11 Titans yet went 7-10
Ima be real, 23 Cards were NOT what the record shows.
The 2003 Cardinals somehow beat the 10-6 Packers and the 10-6 Vikings. Ironically, the win vs. the Vikings gave the Packers the NFC North title, and Keith Poole, who caught the game-winning TD, was given a key to Green Bay.
I would prefer to see this as the team(s) with the lowest C-score with a 9-7 record, 10-6, 11-5, etc. Would be interesting to know which 14-2 and 15-1 were the lowest C score all time.
That is two videos away. I got one in the till and I'm currently created that one.
We all know how the last game of the 2003 Cardinals panned out Vikings fans look away
CAUGHT!!!!
We all know the reality of the 2020 steelers
@@Wolf_3125 we clinched division by the skin of our teeth, somehow
@@Gigapittguy They'll be remembered for the revival of Days of Our Steelers and their hilarious meltdown in the playoff game against the Browns 😂😂😂
As a Packers fan I am forever grateful. Nathan Pooles best game ever as a pro came on this day for Arizona. He was given a key to the city of Green Bay and tickets to the WC game against Seattle the next week.
I was expecting a lot more teams over .500 to be on this list. But the vikings were and definitely deserved to be number 1.
That 2009 Raiders team made their wins count: 4 of the W’s came against teams .500 or better (Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Denver)
2023 Cardinals as well. Beat the Eagles, Cowboys, and Steelers
I'll say this, this was a well produced and well researched video. However, it's hard to call any team fraudulent because of some wins you may consider lucky, if the other team doesn't do what they need to do to win then they deserve to lose.
I'm a Lions fan and the Lions gave the first game against the Vikings away, but that was the Lions fault and they deserved to lose.
Thought the 2023 Eagles would make the list.
As an Eagles fan, I was certainly expecting it. One 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 thing they lost. 😂🤦🏽♂️
I'm a seahawks fan, and even I think our 2020 team should be on this list. We went 12-4, but honestly should have been 8-8 or 9-7. We didn't deserve to be a 12 win team and it showed in the playoffs when the Rams beat us in the Wild Card.
Here's the thing... you have to look at the circumstances of the season. 1978 Baltimore Colts - the last preseason game, MVP QB Bert Jones went down with what was called a separated shoulder, but was probably a rotator cuff tear as well. Bert kept trying to play... the games he started, the Colts went 4-1. Their horrible backup QB, Bill Troup, was also hurt, so they started a 3rd string unexperienced Mike Kirkland those 1st two games. The only game they won without Bert was the Joe Washington Game on MNF in Foxboro, week 3. So, in context, it all makes sense.
By this logic, CCC probably thought the 2022 Raiders were merely unlucky rather than unclutch
They were Bizarro Minnesota: awful in 1 score games, blowing double digit leads left and right, rarely getting blown out, zero luck
But I bet they had a great C score
2022 Patriots were unlucky at times too, with terrible choking mixed in. Look no further than those back-to-back losses against the Raiders and Bengals.
@@Scott_Dunbar_II those Pats didn’t blow big leads. They were derailed by offense and special teams.
@@chrisuncleahmad Their defense choked away their TD lead in the stupidest way possible with almost no time left. Sadly no one remembers that because of the lunatic lateral.
The 2022 Raiders weren't unlucky. They were doomed to fail when Rich Bisaccia wasn't given the head coaching job after taking a team headed for disaster after Jon Gruden to the playoffs in the 2021-2022 season. To compound the stupidity, Mark Davis hired Josh McDaniels.
@@chrisuncleahmad While that Patriot team didn't accomplish much on offense, Matt Patricia as OC countered for it by being extremely offensive.
It would be interesting to do a list about teams that had great stats but so so records (like the 2005 Chargers)
@@FourBudgies87 2010 Chargers
Yeah, I have to agree with the comments section, here. In what universe would a 3-13 team be considered frauds? The title of the video should have been about playoff or winnings teams, not 3, 4 or 5-win teams. Nobody in their right mind would look at their records and say that they overachieved even a little.
I figured this might be a controversial take to many. I'm not mad about that ha.
What about the 2022 Buccaneers? 8-9, got blown out in half of their losses, a worse PD than the Vikings, historically awful running game.
They were the real fraud of 2022. At least Minnesota had an above average offense
I thought people didn’t talk about the 2022 Buccaneers.
2022 Vikings were frauds because they got one-and-doned in the playoffs relatively easily, nobody expected that Buccaneers team to even be a wild card team.
@@Scott_Dunbar_II 2022 Tampa had the 2nd best Super Bowl odds going into the 2022 season. Wild card? They were supposed to win the NFC South by a landslide.
@@chrisuncleahmad Pre-season Super Bowl odds shouldn't mean anything. I'm solely talking about the teams's performances DURING the season. Bucs went into the playoffs with a LOSING RECORD, most reasonable people wouldn't expect a team like that to go on a crazy run to the SB without crazy BS going in their favor. The Vikings were still more fraudulant, and reasonable people knew it.
@@Scott_Dunbar_II Gaudy point differential means nothing. Ask the 2021 Bills . Winning big means nothing if you can’t win close.
Now do a list of really good teams that just could not win-- seems like the fair thing to do.
2020 Steelers?
Thank covid no bye week and playing 3 games in 10 days
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This week, on Days of Our Steelers!! *Hilarious theme music plays
They overperformed their point differential by about 1.4 games, nothing too crazy.
I like this channel I subscribed 😊
Quite an interesting video. I do like how you focused on the one possession games as often luck can turn those records around. I will say it was a tad deflating to see so many teams who lost a lot of games anyway makes up the majority of the list.
Nevertheless, entertaining video.
By his logic, teams that lose a lot of one score games are merely unlucky rather than unclutch.
I guess he thinks it’s better to be snakebitten than fraudulent
Sorry dude...if you wind up with more points than the other team....even repeatedly...thats NOT FRAUDULENT....injuries, cohesiveness.(which is hard to measure), teams letting go of the rope, exhaustion( some teams can coast ontheir talent to an extent..others must play atvtheir maximum to be competitive) IMPROVEMENT!, and a lack of quality depth...i guess i just feel that word fraudulent is a poor descriptive...using averages are to me kinda using misleading stats...WAYYYY to many variables in ANY squad's record...The great Nolan Richardson used to say statistics are sometime for losers...
Football Reference has a rating system called SRS (Simple Rating System) based on Point Differential, Margin of Victory and
Strength of Schedule! Most of these teams are minus by FR!!
So who were the unluckiest teams of all-time? High C score, bad record.
Not my definitive list, but a first crack at it:
1.1993 San Francisco 49ers (10-6, 1st in NFC West) - beat Giants in Divisional playoffs 44-3, lost to Cowboys in in NFC Championship game 38-21
2.2015 Seattle Seahawks (10-6, 2nd in NFC West) - beat Vikings in Wild Card playoffs 10-9, lost to Panthers in Divisional playoffs 31-24
3.1991 San Francisco 49ers (10-6, 3rd in NFC West) - did not make playoffs
4.2008 Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1, 2nd in NFC East) - beat Vikings in Wild Card playoffs 26-14, Giants in Divisional playoffs 23-11, lost to Cardinals in NFC Ch. game 32-25
5.2005 San Diego Chargers (9-7, 3rd in AFC West) - did not make playoffs
6.1983 San Francisco 49ers (10-6, 1st in NFC West) - beat Lions in Divisional playoffs 24-23, lost to Redskins in NFC Championship game 24-21
7.2009 New York Jets (9-7, 2nd in AFC East) - beat Bengals in Wild Card playoffs 24-14, Chargers in Divisional playoffs 17-14, lost to Colts in AFC Championship game 30-17
8.2009 New England Patriots (10-6, 1st in AFC East) - lost to Ravens in Wild Card playoffs 33-14
9.1985 San Francisco 49ers (10-6, 2nd in NFC West) - lost to Giants in Wild Card playoffs 17-3
10.2009 Baltimore Ravens (9-7, 2nd in AFC North) - beat Patriots in Wild Card playoffs 33-14, lost to Colts in Divisional playoffs 20-3
None of these teams had bad records, but I consider them among the great teams that didn't have great W/L/T records and/or great playoff success.
I'm surprised but happy the 2019 Packers aren't on here, although we did make the NFC Championship at least
I'm also surprised, but not happy
(I'm a Bears fan)
I thought for certain the 2000 Cardinals would be on this list. Two wins (Cowboys and REDSKINS) by one point each and an eight-point win over the godawful Browns. Lost the rematch in Dallas 48-7, and Vince Tobin was fired the next day.
2018 dolphins were 7-9 and played like they were 4-12
The Dolphins always somehow find a way to win games, no matter who's playing there.
Except for 2019
but tbh, even that year, they went from 0-7 to 5-11, so my statement still applies.
As a Steelers fan I was worried a few of our recent seasons would show up here glad to see they didn't though.
Big Ben rookie season , those Steelers were the worst 15-1 team in league history.
@@erickennedy8534 I didn't even think about that season I was like 3 years old I was thinking more along the lines of the 2020 season started 11-0 ended 12-4 and a first round exit
@@DwGamings Steelers had regular season , not COVID they would went to Super Bowl in 2020. They got penalized, because teams kept testing positive 2020 season sucked
@@erickennedy8534 I'd definitely like to believe that as someone who loves that team with all his heart, it was definitely a mess of a season
This was a fun video
With respect to the 2022 Vikings, I don't see that as so much a case of a "fraudulent" record, as one where that was just an average quality team that happened to finish the regular season at 13-4. I think that team was, at worst, an 11-6 average team masquerading as a 13-4 average team. By comparison, the 1998 Cardinals resembled a 2-14 team masquerading as a 9-7 regular season team. That team was outscored by 53 points during the regular season. That team won 7 games by 3 or fewer points each, by a combined total of 18 points, entirely against teams which finished with records between 3-13 and 6-10. The other two wins were 17-3 against the 3-13 Eagles, and 20-7 against the 4-12 Bears. The team was 0-7 in games against opponents which finished the regular season with records between 7-9 and 10-6. The 1998 Cardinals made the playoffs as a wild card team (6 seed) and upset the Cowboys in the first round at Dallas, 20-7 (the Cowboys had beaten them 38-10 in week 1 at Dallas, and 35-28 in week 11 at Arizona). In the divisional playoffs, the Vikings beat the Cardinals in Minnesota, 41-21.
That vikings team had no quit in it. That is why they were able to win those close games. From 21-23 the Vikings have played in a LOT of 1 score games. You failed to mention the teams they were beating in 22, they played vs most of that years playoff teams. The greatest comeback in NFL history was in 22, vs the Colts. Nor did you mention all the 1 score losses 2023 had. Etc. That team earned its record, every week. When you play majority close games, your going to have a low points differential. They are the hardest working team in NFL history, if anything.
Great content, keep it up!! 👏
What background music is this. I hear it a lot on NFL highlight shows.
Sounds like the music from the ESPN NFL Primetime show. I can just hear Chris Berman now, “Da Raaaaaayyyyyydaaaas”
@@NickSweetChuck"WOOP!"
NFL Primetime indeed. Childhood memories up the wazoo.
Was schedule strength considered in these rankings? I didn't see it mentioned and based on past videos it's usually a staple in rankings.
Very keen observation. It was not considered for this particular ranking. I tell ya, I love this audience.
@@cccproductions2019 Good to know! Though personally I would have accounted for it, there's many teams that got a bloated record due to a soft schedule.
Ok now getting that off my chest. Man that was a fun year but also very frustrating becauze we had the worlds worst defense in the history of football anywhere. Our offense kept us in games and won us games. Our game against Buffalo that year was the most crazy game in history of football. I suggest anyone who is a legit fa of football to go and watch that game in its entirety. Dont skip any part of the game. To many crazy things happened in that game. It was the 1st time that we played Buffalo sinxe we traded number 14 to them for a draft pick that gave us Justin Jefferson. So its was also a show down between those 2 guys and Jefferson made a point in that game. Yo make sure everyone knew that we won out on that trade. We sent Diggs the cry baby to the bills and in return. The oick we gkt from them for diggs gave us Jefferson. He made the best catch in history in that game. On 4th down. So going into that game peopek wondered who was the vetter WR and who won in that trade. The game had to be played to find out. And after the game it was clear. And it was of course the vikings who won in that trade.. Jefferson is 10 times better. But in 2022 know one knew yet. But Justin played his ass off and showed us all who was better and who won the b trade. And its such a fun and crazy game that even id ur not a fan of either team. U will still enjoy watching that game. It is nuts how it went down. Every time you thought one team had it sealed. BAM BOOM. Something would happen to change that. They would have a 99% chance of winning they just had to dnap the ball. On the goal line no less amd westher they got in or not they still would have keot that 99% chance to win... unless 1 thing happened. Just watch. Promise youll love it. Its a historic game
Each Colts team that made the list was coached by the same man, Ted Marchibroda! Excluding 1987* (strike shortened season) with coach Ron Meyer and mid-season acquisition Eric Dickerson, Ted was the only Colts coach to have winning seasons under notorious owner Robert Irsay. Thankfully, Robert's son Jim has made the Colts respectable, and at times great. Ironically the Colts were victims of the largest comeback victory at the expense of the "fraudulent" 2022 Vikings. Also 2009 was the last season for possibly the biggest bust in NFL history (pun fully intended), Raiders QB JaMarcus Russell.
The 1978 Colts were 2-1 with Bert Jones as the starter. That he was able to play a couple of games is part of the reason the Colts had a record that put them on this list.
5:40 I think a 7-10 team would be 1.5 games below .500, not 3 games below .500
Uhhh...what?? I'm STILL trying to figure out what you're meaning by "fraudulent"?? Swing and a miss on this one
Would love to see best teams to not win the Super bowl :)
This one is pretty close: ruclips.net/video/ZOUYGr68RjM/видео.html
@@cccproductions2019 Oh thank you!
I'm surprised the Kansas City Cheats aren't on this list more.
Great video loves the highlights. Inly thing i did not like was who was number 1. Because im a lufe ling and huge vikings fan. So i hoped the clip for the beginning was b.s. but nope it was true. And onxe i seen the yeat on it. All of those memories came rushing back lol and after the 2021 season. Me with evwryone else said if he got lucky amd the ball bounced the other way on all of those close games. We would have a really good record. Because every singke close game lady luck went the other way and it was so frustrating to be that clos eon so many games. And u dont want games to be that close that many times anywayd. So it was all defensive plays that needed to get bettwr. The defense in general needed to get way bettet. Fix that and we would be a very good team. Because we were soooo close so many times. So what did the vikings do in the off-season? Well they addressed the defense of course. But BUUUUT they did something super dumb. I noticed in the off-season that they were uoading tons of players on defense. Someone wanted to make it his team so the new defensive coach got rid of everyone. And switched to a 3-4 defense. We have NEVER had 3-4 as out main scheme. Its always veen 4-3. Amd the dumbass coach DC got rid of evwryone and replaced them with other players that sucked. He drained out Defense Line and stocked up on LB and DB's. Cuz of the switch to 3-4. Which was dumb. Whatbhe really was doing was trying to make it his defense by getting rid of all of the guys we already had and most od them were super good. . All because. His excuse i should say was because of the switch from 4-3 to 3-4. Hebdidnt have to do anything to the roster. Mostly since it was a brand new defense he was going with and didnt know if it wouls work. But he wanted his guys and blah blah blah.. so we got rid of very good DL and added junk linebackers and that switch to the 3-4killed us all season and he b was so bone headed he refused to switch back to the 4-3 saying it wouls eventually work.... it NEVER DID. And the head coach had to switch it back to the 4-3 but when he did. We no longer had the guys who could effectively play that defensive scheme anymore because in the off-season he got rid of them all. I have never seen such a poor defense then that of the 2022 Minnesota Vikings that year. The onlyreason why we won so many games is because od our offense being sooo dam good that year and we also got very lucky more then a few times. The offense had to be good that year. All we could hope for is that we had the ball more times then our opponents and that we ended up with the ball last. Because we new we could score. We also new we coukd not stop the other team from scoring either. Man that was a tough year to swallow. Teams that year that we gad close games with. If we would have had the defense from the year before or just a better defense then we had we would habe blown iut all of those teams we had close games with. You guys have no idea of how bad our defense was that year. We took such a massive drop in defense that yeat from the year before that man did that hurt. And its all on one guy. The defensive coordinator that year. He sucked. He wanted that shitty 3-4. And i know with some teams that defense works great and wat better then 4-3 would for them. Good for them. But not for the vikings. And were used to havj g a good defense all the time. We never have a shitry one.. well that guy moved us from 4-3 which we have never ever used as our base D. And then he cut all of our studs on the D side if the ball. So we had no I e to play the new base D. Amd worse yet. When the head coach stepped in to switch it back. He had no guys to use cuz thebother guy released all of our good players but one. So webhad a shot that year to make some damage in the post season. But that chance was taken away in the off-season before when the new DC graped out D talent and switched to a scheme Foreign to the team. Of course he fired after that season. Which should have happened after 6 or 7 games. It was really that bad folks. But our new head coach made a great gore in the off season with horinf Brian flores as out new DC... let me tell you about that guy. All of the hype about him beinf a great defensive mind is true. He didnt have a lot to work with because of what his Predecessor did to the team getting rid of a lot of the guys. So we got what we could thro free agency and the drafts and then he went to work. What a difference. First thi g brian did was out as back to 4-3 and then his coachj g took over. The man is a defensive genius. We instantly went from last in defense and it wasnt even close . We instantly went from last not even close like i said to be I ng a lot better then average being one of the betterbteMs on defense and he didnt even have the guys he wanted to work with. He took what was left over from the moron who graped our D the tear before. And his schemes and plays just everything made us such a better team on that side of the ball. The guys on defense love playing for him... and now they have a full yeat u der there belt under flores and he got what he wanted in the draft and maybe help in free agency. So we should be a lot better on D this year. We drafted a DE/LB Lawrence Taylor and Derek Thomas type of player in the first round. Dallas Turner. Who should maje an immediate impact on defense. And we are already studs on offense... we have the vest WR AND TE COMBO in the league. And we added a great RB IN the off season from green bay. So as long as our temp starter a former 1st round draft pick feom 6 or 7 years ago as longbas he playes good then we will be extremely dangerous. And we drafted the best CB in the draft with J.J. MCcarthy. Our franchise QB. THE GUY WE GOT to start u yim he is ready is a former 1st round pick. Which i think he will surprise the whole dam league. He has never has the weapons that we have for him to work with . Sam Darnald. Good young QB. Always played for crap teams unt now. So i predict he will have a huge year for us and by far the best of his career. Its the first time the man has ever had good WR'S and a great TE to work with. He is going to explode this year. So heads up to anyone reading this long comment. Sorry for that by the way. But if your reading this. Do t be surprised when u start seeinf his name popping up as torching other teams. He was drafted that high for a reason. And now he finally gets to live up to that hype back then. Becauae the man can ball he has been showing thag all off season. We made a good choice lettinf kirk walk. He was over priced and old anyways and could get us over the hump. Sam will be an improvement. Now that he has awesome weapons and has 7 years of experience. This is going to look to easy for him. And J.J is also kicking ass. But om glad they are groomi g hkn for a year or 2 so get him ready the right way.. the vikings are serious SB contenders
also remember that the 'perfect' Dolphins team had the easiest schedule and opponents.
They still went against the best AFC teams in the playoffs. If they weren't legit, they would have lost those games.
@@jdb2002 Not True. Fact is One team will ALWAYS win the Super Bowl, does not make them legit compared to Other Super Bowl Winners. Just Legit for that one year, even then I would argue with that, and here is why. Lets compare the 1972 Steeler vs the 1972 Dolphins in how easy of a time they got to the AFC Championship game.(* Denotes Playoff Team)
1972 Dolphins
At 8-6 Chiefs - Won by 10
At 8-6 Giants - Won by 10
At 7-7 Vikings - Won by 2
Vs 7-7 Jets - Won by 4
At 7-7 Jets - Won by 10
At 5-9 Colts - Won by 23
Vs 5-9 Colts - Won by 16
Vs 4-9-1 Cardinals - Won by 21
At 4-9-1 Bills - Won by 14
Vs 4-9-1 Bills- Won by 1
Vs 4-9-1 Chargers - Won by 14
At 3-10 Patriots - Won by 16
Vs 3-10 Patriots - Won by 52
Vs 1-13 Oilers - Won by by 21
So, They played ZERO Games vs a team with 9 wins, but played 9 Games vs teams that Lost 9 or more games. Played ZERO playoff teams. Played 2 games vs Winning Teams.
1972 Steelers
Vs 10-3-1 Raiders - Won by 6 (*)
At 10-4 Browns - Lost by 2 (*)
Vs 10-4 Browns - Won by 30 (*)
At 10-4 Cowboys - Lost by 4 (*)
At 8-6 Bengals - Lost by 5
Vs 8-6 Bengals - Won by 23
Vs 8-6 Chiefs - Won by 9
Vs 7-7 Minnesota - Won by 13
At 4-9-1 Chargers - Won by 22
At 4-9-1 Bills - Won by 17
At 4-9-1 Cardinals - Won by 6
Vs 3-10 Patriots - Won by 30
At 1-13 Oilers - Won by 6
Vs 1-13 Oilers - Won by 17
I think it is very arguable to say the Dolphins were less beat up in the AFC Championship game. Let me further this.
The Dolphins played the Chiefs in Week 1, the Vikings in week 3, and then the Giants in week 13. One non losing team played in the last 11 games of the season.
Steelers from weeks 8-12 played the Bengals, Chiefs, Browns, Vikings, Browns.
But here is why I dont think they are even close to be considered a legit Super Bowl team of All Time. Here is a comparison of the 1983 Raiders to the 1972 Dolphins playoff run.
1972 Dolphins
Beat 10-4 Browns by 6 Points
Beat 11-3 Steelers by 4 Points
Beat 11-3 Redskins by 7 Points
1983 Raiders
Beat 10-6 Steelers by 28 Points
Beat 9-7 Seahawks by 16 Points
Beat 14-2 Redskins by 29 Points
@@WillMuny
They went to three straight SBs , only one team has done better.
They are one of only a handful of repeat champs.
All before their 10th year in existence, they're teams that haven't even been to a championship game in their 2 decade existence.
Are you as critical of "dominant" teams that fall short?
@@robertmurdock1848 I do not consider teams that "Fall Short". Nor did I question their run. I argued that the 1972 Dolphins were an Overrated Team that does not stand up to the Test Of Time based on Stats and Facts.
Their Regular season was pathetic and their playoff run was pathetic when compared to other Super Bowl winning teams.
I would rank the 1983 Raiders and 2002 Bucs as MUCH better. And they are not even in the Top 5 of Super Bowl Winning Teams.
@@robertmurdock1848 Two more comparisons. I think the 1985 Bears are the Greatest Super Bowl team. And why I dont think the 72 Dolphins can even be in the same breath as the 85 Bears. I know it is not really fair to compare 14 game schedules to 16, or to 1985 where there was an extra playoff team, but it does show what I am talking about.
1985 Bears
At 12-4 Dolphins - Lost by 14 (*)
Vs 11-5 Patriots - Won by 13 (*)
At 11-5 Jets - Won by 13 (*)
At 10-6 Cowboys - Won by 44 (*)
At 10-6 49ers - Won by 16 (*)
Vs 10-6 Redskins - Won by 35
At 8-8 Packers - Won by 6
Vs 8-8 Packers - Won by 16
At 7-9 Vikings - Won by 9
Vs 7-9 Vikings - Won by 18
At 7-9 Lions - Won by 20
Vs 7-9 Lions - Won by 21
Vs 5-11 Colts - Won by 7
Vs 4-12 Falcons - Won by 36
At 2-14 Buccaneers - Won by 8
Vs 2-14 Buccaneers - Won by 10
Vs 10-6 Giants - Won by 21
Vs 11-5 Rams - Won by 24
Vs 11-5 Patriots - Won by 36
There were 10 playoff teams, of the 9 the Bears could play, they played 7 of them, going 7-1. Only the 12-4 Raiders and 8-8 Browns they did not play. I doubt there is another team that played as tough a schedule and Dominated like the Bears did.
"fraudulent"??? yall took some liberties with that term smdh
They only went 7-10 because the qb got injured
You can't compare 2022 to 2023 with the Vikings, since Minnesota had a lot of key injuries.
It's also making it difficult to tell if O'Connell is a good coach or not. One lucky year and one unlucky year. We need a more run of the mill year to really evaluate him.
Bears had 2 seasons that were 13 and 3. Maybe other season was 12 and 4. And they were no better than a 500 team
Which 12-4 season are you talking about? If its 2018, then nah, we definitely earned that record.
2022 Vikings, we weren’t frauds, we just had Kirk Cousins as a QB and an awful Defensive Coordinator, and our offense was amazing when our defense showed up
They were the biggest frauds that year
Aside from agreeing with the idea of limiting this list to winning teams, I think the whole calculus is mistaken. These are teams that outperformed their metrics, usually by winning close games with clutch plays. This is a GOOD thing, not evidence of fraud.
I mean if you look at his explanation of C-Score, it's clear that he does take into account the real W-L records of each team. If he was just working off of pythagorean W-L then the 2022 Vikings would likely have had a C-Score below 0, as their point differential was below 0. He just (rightfully) weights one-possession wins as less valuable than multi-possession wins. Because great teams win more convincingly than just good or okay teams, because they're good enough to blow opponents out.
Fer shame, Doc. Discussing the 2021 Raiders without including the scenes of Brandon Staley of the Chargers stupidly calling a timeout when it had appeared the Raiders were willing to accept a tie in the final game of the regular season which would have enabled both teams to make the playoffs. The Raiders then kicked the winning field goal in a "Take That!" salute to Staley as a result which eliminated the Chargers and allowed the Steelers to make the playoffs instead.
The 1995 chiefs should be here.
1995 Colts. They were 3 plays from 6-10
Lions fans who agree.
This is silly. You are crapping on teams that pulled out games in the clutch. Matty Ice is known as a great clutch quarterback and his play was the difference in close games. That does not make them fraudulent. It just means that they knew ow to win close games. Same thing applies to Kirk Cousins clutch play for the 2022 Vikings. Cousins is on a pace to become the greatest career comeback quarterback in history. He has proven to be clutch year after year so no fraud here either. The Vikings suffered two lopsided losses which skewed the point differential.
Wrong again
1998 Atlanta Falcons 14-2, as fraudulent as it gets!
I have a strong disagreement on this one. IMO, the 1998 Falcons were a legitimately great team, that didn't fluke its way to a 14-2 regular season record. On an average difficulty regular season schedule (theirs was relatively easy), I think they may have finished 12-4 at worst. Their worst played game was a 17-12 win over the 3-13 Eagles in week 2. Of their 2 regular season losses, only the 28-3 loss to the 12-4 Jets was a significantly-below-average showing. They had several solid and impressive wins, including their 2 playoff wins - against the 12-4 49ers in the Divisional playoffs (20-18), and on the road against the 15-1 Vikings in the NFC Championship (30-27, OT). Their 34-19 loss to the 14-2 Broncos in the Super Bowl was not bad, considering how great that Broncos team was. Were they a relative blip of high quality on the radar of the Falcons franchise during that era? Yes. But I don't consider seasons before or after as a measure of the quality of a particular season team.
I wouldn't call it a 98 falcons frauds because I didn't think they lucked into any of their wins.
And the next year their season pretty much effectively ended when their quarterback and Jamal Anderson got injured.
Where's the next imperialism